Superman Gives Doomsday His Best - 4000 Punches
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watching Doomsday fighting Superman is equivalent to watching Peter Griffin fight that Chicken on Family Guy. No matter what Peter throws at the chicken, it keeps coming back for more; the same between Supes and DD
Huaahua except the chicken vs griffin fights are better lol
Höh didi
Doomsday may not be the best character ever but goddamn are his battles on a whole other level compared to supermans other villains. He's like the only one that really makes me terrified if superman wins or not
@warwik Xio nah, they are both jokes now
@@MrQuest0 Darkseid a joke? Lol
He's just a weird Hulk. I never liked how only Kryptonian things hurt him Superman.
@@surtrlombarde4243 Coz that his logic superman was an total invicible indestruable charater that fly around and save the city as time goes writer put krytonite then later magic to add depths and struggle to his stories in a way and only fellow krytonian fist can make him bleed.
@@grimmywizard Well... He kinda is compared to Trigon.
I know. I was hoping for the opposite. -_-
Doomsday is an absolute tank, it sucks how people underestimates him.
Yeah nah it’s just doomsday is very inconsistent. One comic he fights Superman to the death literally. And in another he losses to Superman very quickly while being powered up with kryptonite
Always see people hyping him up not underestimating him.
He's literally Daddy Noel.
@@ias787 Are you referencing Superman's fight with the All-American Boy from Superman/Batman?
@@jacobcollier23 wow i was being sarcastic. Did that actually happened?
" I've fought beasts stronger then you"
Diana, the goddess of truth shouldn't Lie like that
🤣
If Doomsday died from shock right there that would be decent writing lol
see thats why kratos hates gods..the ego
I know right
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I always loved what doomsday represented to Clark. He was the end. He taught Superman the meaning of pain and was the first to make him feel the most primal type of fear the fear for one’s own life. Superman is genuinely scared of doomsday because tho he is FULLY willing to lay down his life for others just like any one else Superman doesn’t want to die. And death by doomsday is a painful death. Superman doesn’t relish the feel of getting hit tho he doesn’t mind It and is willing to take the strike he doesn’t want to feel that pain and doomsday was the first to put him in true agony and the first to put an end to his life.
Let's be real, with the term "Retcon" existing nobody dies in comics or any works of fiction
@@isaacsmith6878 way to ruin the entire statement
Not sure if Doomsday was before drunk Lobo.
Except Superman isn't scared of Doomsday and never has been. Clark doesn't fear his own death, he only fears what he'll do to _other people_ around him
@@kaihedgie1747 so superman greatest fear is doomsday killing others
DC has never...captured the ferocity of the first doomsday appearance. One of the greatest stories I have ever read in comics.
Hunter/prey
Doomday wars
@@guyverjay1289 hunter prey was poor... Like I said nothing they wrote ever came anywhere close to the original superman doomsday confrontation.
@@solemarc - wasn't poor to me
Watch the animated version where Justice League fought him --- oh they captured it alright lol they were not ready lol
Honestly I thought this comic did a pretty good job
Everyone talking about how tough doomsday is yet noone mentions how super mans son fired multiple heat vision blasts and knocked this monster back . this kids got potential i 'll say that much.
DC ruined him
@@davidortiz3094 horribly
How?
@@StillSymbiotic son of kal el just randomly makes him bisexual
@@lukeogor481 how does that ruin the character
Doomsday is a tank, for once Superman goes full anime on him, and Doomsday tanks all these punches with almost zero damage.
Well doomsday have fucking insane regeneration but after death of superman issue
Superman kick many doomsday ass later and no longer treat
(Doomsday get nerf lol )
@@yaqinmalul1364
Yeah bro
@@gowthamchithra6780 well not only doomsday who get nerf many more villian
@@yaqinmalul1364 Ummmm, Not quite true because after the Death of Superman issue Superman still got his ass whip by Doomsday a several time. In Hunter/Pray ,Doomsday War, Reign of Doomsday or the DC Rebirth version in this very video. These Issues is after TDOS that Superman Fought DD again and again can’t do any real harm to DD or sometime even got help from Doomsday himself like in Our World at War or in Gog War. So Doomsday don’t get completely nerf after The Death of Superman He just get nerf only by a weak writer who never know how to use him correctly.
@@massdestruction3982 mabye you fucking right 😂
Probably one of the best fights in the New 52 era. Doomsday treated like a legimate life or death threat to the cast and any reasonable plan just doesn't work. He just keeps coming back.
Don't fear the man who has nothing to fight for.
Fear the man who fights for everyone behind him.
But more than that, fear the man who fights for those closest to his heart.
Damn Doomsday just took all those punches and was like “is that all?”
Doomsday lives up to his Name he literally is Doomsday honestly imo i agree with what Fernando said he's better as an event character than a average villain
They should make doomsday a natural disaster that finds his way around the universe getting into fights. Just a force of nature that can only be mitigated or avoided
Doomsdays past of going from various planets running hands until he got imprisoned really was fun. I think showing him around other alien worlds again would be better than throwing him at superman constantly
One of the best suit that superman use. I wish they would just let him use it instead of the classic ones these days. Also i wish that one day we could see shazam vs doomsday.
Jokes on the writer. Superman doesn’t need to breath.
3:15 “I’ve faced beasts stronger than you…”
Doubtful WW… doubtful.
DS: i mean she fought me but with backup…
@@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 Yeah, but Doomsday wrecked Darkseid. His avatar, at least.
@@MrTangent it wasn't his avatar.
@@joekent5675 it was
@@emmanuelmorningstar976 writer confirmed it wasn't.
This is the time where All JL members realise Supes is the only one who can kill Doomsday 💪
I sympathize with you on doomsdays constant returns. Yet he’s had plenty of fun battles like this one that almost makes it worth it. I think it was inevitable that the creators would have to bring such a popular character back to be honest. Maybe a good compromise would’ve been to bring him up mostly in else-world stories? I dunno. You either have to change what doomsday is to a fault, or else he becomes one track and pretty boring as a recurring menace hmmmm.
Horrible character. As a literary tool, he's worse than kryptonite or "red sun" radiation. Only entertaining for people who like watching Superman get the crap beat outta him as far as I'm concerned.
@@paulrowland4786 1.well I can’t in good conscious deny that Doomsday is a shitty character. Hell you can barely call him one anymore. His abilities adapt but his personality doesn’t. If anything it devolves. Even when he’s sentient he’s bland.
That being said I at least enjoy superman getting a proper challenge. But I think that can be accomplished with any of supermans rogues when a writer doesn’t undersell them. After all supermans has needed help in the past at least ocassionally with his more recurring villains.
2. Well superman should have some sort of weakness with powers like that. But I understand why you’d think they’re stupid weaknesses. After all you’d think a kryptonian would adapt to be fine around an element native to his homeworld. And even if red run radiation doesn’t fuel his power, I wouldn’t know why it would drain it.
Lois is such a huge distraction and disadvantage to Clark in his most dangerous fights.
Just dont be there with a child next time!!! I know she’s concerned - but seriously what is she going to do except be a huge distraction. She always wants a kiss and hug halfway through a fight with the most powerful entities there are.
Super power gets the ladys XD
Yep. My boy Doomsday kicks ass once more and Superman shows yet again why he is such a fantastic character.
You know, in a way, I feel that, just like Lex, Doomsday is Superman's opposite. Superman is a man who cares about life, has a simplistic design and represents all the virtues and values of modern man. Doomsday is a monster that hates all life, has an over-the-top design and represents the ultimate lack of humanity. Doomsday is the final boss, the final test for Superman. So yes, Fernando, I do as well feel that Doomsday should not be overused. Still, I feel that this specific comic did Doomsday's return well. The impact of the first time they fought was still present and there was a clear showcase of how much Superman has evolved from their last encounter, both physically and mentally, while Doomsday kept his level of intimidation. Plus, it was a pretty clever writing decision to make Superman adapt his tactics in order to face a monster with the power to adapt and to not repeat the mistakes of the past.
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Superman is the greatest superhero created. Period.
He was a fine recurring villain during post-crisis. They used him sparingly enough for his threat to still be believable.
This fight was legit. I've always felt like speed blitz attacks in comics follow video game logic. The overall attack is stronger but each hit is much weaker so against extremely durable or regenerating enemies it might not actually be the best choice. Maximizing the pain per hit against someone like DD seems like a better strategy.
@Andrew Hager Yeah DD has been totally vaporized.
@Andrew Hager It was a being named Imperiex who was the main antagonist in a big event back in 2000 or 2001 called our world's at war. He was basically the DC version of Galactus. He was pretty powerful. Sun dip Superman put him on the ropes though.
@Andrew Hager He's been killed permantely before in Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey #3 where a Mother Box sent Doomsday to the end of time and he was permanently destroyed along with the whole universe.
STANDING HERE, I REALISE
Damn 4000 punches
and they had no affect whatsoever
Superman was not holding back either
Name a great duo to defeat Doomsday.
@@george-nikolas942 Superman and Flash. I know people might say "Flash? He's not even that powerful." But in the comics Flash is an absolute beast. I believe since he can easily outpace Doomsday, it would allow him to move Superman out of the way of Doomsday's attacks. Plus, his ability to steal and give speed makes him incredibly valuable for creating openings for Superman. Not to mention his infinite mass punch being capable of knocking out someone as durable as Superman in one punch makes it a genuine ace up his sleeve, the only con being the momentum needed to use it, but if Superman keeps him busy long enough it wouldn't matter. It's likely that Superman could use the time bought by the punch to throw an infinite mass punch of his own, allowing them to infinite mass punch combo him.
@@eivor1917 He was Holding back. Trust me.
I think fans want to see Doomsday fight the Justice League. The first encounter he didn’t take on the muscle the Justice League had. Warner Brothers did a okay job showing a fight with the League and Doomsday. If the League in Warner Brothers gave Dark Side a problem I would think the League would put up a better fight with Doomsday than what the movie showed. I think DC should make a comic with the League giving Doomsday a toe to toe fight.
@@najeebshah. martian manhunter, green lantern, cap atom,icon etc i coul go on
Doomsday Brainiac fought the classic Justice league in doomsday wars and completely annihilated them. Even once brainiac was purged doomsday was battering anyone put in front of him such as Orion. They had put doomsday in a teleporter to stop him. That was the last showing of the REAL doomsday. After that was just poor showing after poor showing.
@@CloroxBleach-qy7vy brurh nah superman is the main focus of dc comic and is describe as strongest and toughest indestruable guy none of you mention are ever describe as ever comes close superman in physically in dc mind
@@supermegapowerg1188 Not as of today he isn't
Superman is holding back as always
Doesn't matter. Doomsday would tank it.
Any being able to kill Superman goes to the top of my leaderboard... I love Doomsday as a villain because of his sheer power... Who else takes Superman's best and shrugs it off ??
only darkseid comes to mind - although mongul might find out, given what clark's been dealing with in infinite crisis so far
@@theimprovedbore550 I also like Amazo as a badass villain... Anyone that can copy your powers and use them against you could take you down...
Amazo, lol!
Superman at full power.... Is unstoppable.
Damn supes on steroids
Nah more like doomsday is on steroids
@@ias787 xd right
@chris Evans india wrong vid bro
@@Tskriala369 hulk on steroids
@@EnclaveHater07 nah ur on wrong vid its dc lol not marvel in vid
Doomsday is coming in superman and lois episode 3
yep!!!!!!!!!!!
It's gonna be Epic
That would be a lot of budget
He’s doing WHAT to Superman and Lois?!
@@joaquinleyva6869 lmao
Since you can't kill DD, and he adapts to everything, the only move possible is to immobilize him for eternity. Place him in the equivalent of 100 ft of solidfied adamantium.
They once trapped him in another dimension, he escaped
Putting Doomsday in 100ft of solid adamantium would be the equivalent of putting Joker in Arkham asylum and thinking that he'd stay there.
@@burgerbandit3646 I know this is comics and all, but one of the components of strength is explosiveness and momentum. If you can't move then most of your strength is negated. It's like asking someone to punch you as hard as they can but telling them they can't move. 100 ft of basically unbreakable material is not a trivial matter given that set up. The Hulk was able to break adamantine on one maybe two occasions, but he was able to swing with all his force. I'm sure the writers could figure some way out of it, but it wouldn't be trivial.
He'd smash Adamantium though
@@unknownvitster true but they literally locked doomsday in the phantom zone and he broke out. Lol idek how that's possible. Hulk and Doomsday just escape whatever cells hold them.
What is throwing a bus gonna do to doomsday, there is more density and mass energy in sups fists than a mountain of buses.
I figure it has similar logic to a speedster throwing pebbles at stuff at super high speeds. Assuming superman hit doomsday with that bus with without energy that he would’ve hurt his hands otherwise maaaybe it would be a worth while attack? Oh who am i kidding..
the part where supes just heat rays doomsday is cool. a reminder that laser eyes and heat rays are the coolest looking superpower
Remember this Superman was half as powerful as his post-crisis/post reborn Rebirth self
@warwik Xio in Superman&Lois Rebirth he said that he is weaker than before, but he didn't know the reason. Then in Reborn we learned that when Flashpoint happened Superman split in two, one Superman is captured by Braniac(has p-crisis memories) one is retconned in universe(New 52)then in Reborn 2 Superman merged together. I recommend you to Superman&Lois convergence and Superman Reborn, both are great comics
@@themanofsteel7385 no this superman's solar absorbing was messed up from being from a different universe till Swamp Thing fused with him and helped him fix it the fusing between this Superman and N52 Superman only merged their memories and lives as one PC Superman with N52 memories they didn't fuse like dbz. Lol
Oh yeeaah I Remember this fight it was Awesome!!
Superman - Ok I took this one from Flash but I was also watching anime with Jimmy. Ora Ora Ora Ora ..
This art is so fuckin good!
Doomsday is my favorite DC villain, I like his name in rebirth, I hope they reuse him and give him more power and development like other villains
Some people say doomsday should be able to speak what do you think ?
@@ratmondshaw3921 well the time he has spoken it just seemed weird. At least from what i’ve seen in the comics. He either sounds too sophisticated like the doom slayer, or like a thug when he that magog dude with superman. I feel like if they portrayed his mood through facial and physical gestures that’d be better,
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 oh so more like a silent antagonist
Even saitama's serious series punch would do nothing to damage against this absolute monster doomsday
Honestly their is this comic that I Red last year that I can't remember but it shows that when Wonder Woman takes of her braces she can go full power as it serves as limiters yet she'll destroy everything if that happens
She did that during her new 52 run to beat strife
There’s also a comic where Superman one shots doomsday. Fun times
I'm sorry but Lois driving (with their child mind you) to where superman and doomsday are fighting is absolutely braindead writing
Since when she is not braindead ?
She didn't drive there. Doomsday chased them (Jon specifically).
Superman throwing so many punches at doomsday an doomsday's like is that all you got
yt needs more superman comics
This was amazing, thank you for the upload everything!!! I had a weird ass feeling, what if somebody in this world is born to be a doomsday, what if this is or was a good person, deep down inside it was this monster that couldn’t wait to break free. How would u view this person?
Doomsday can't keep being brought back because of the nature of his ability, if you can't kill him the same way twice then making stories with him will become more and more difficult until you eventually just have to ignore that or have him be written out
At some point it becomes a question of imprisonment.
Pretty cool.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Come on Champ.
Nice
Would be interesting to see a cross-over story where Odin-Powered Thor takes on Doomsday...
My boy Supes went full anime on Doomsday
CW'S Lois And Clark Superman is now somewhere in line for Hunter Prey Doomsday scenario after dealing with a long-lost half-brother that was known as Morgan Edge aka Zeta Roe. (The Eradicator). He wanted to bring back his ancestors. Supes and a little haphazard help from Steele JHI that wanted to kill him from a past multiverse now alined with Clark to bring down the eradicator
a disturbance in the mines erupts as earthquakes are happening in that very same mine used to enrich X Kryptonite. A big Hulking form steps up out of the darkness in a jumpsuit with glowing light bulbs on a few spots on his body. breathing snorting brewing.
I think what would be compelling is following the story set on Krypton the series where Doomsday was an actual kyrptonion that was artificially mutated into the form we now know. Imagine if there the same Krytonion technology used to mutate him reverted him back normal!
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is this where they got the ending to batman vs superman (dceu) from
That wasn't Doomsday it was basically Zod reborn as a mutation
I think this is Doomsday's most impressive feat of all time. He gets punched in the face by Superman 4,035 times within what appears to be two seconds, and proceeds to fuck up Superman and Wonder Woman as if he didn't even feel it. It's mind boggling.
Also, I love how Wonder Woman always tells Doomsday she's fought monsters stronger than him. I love Wonder Woman, but that is totally bullshit
Doomsday vs. Squirrel Girl. 😉
There's an episode where Martian Manhunter fights Doomsday and gets wrecked. Supes comes and put the whopping on em. That's another story
Why does Superman's speed punching look like he's hitting Doomsday with one hand, and telling those damn kids to get off his lawn with the other?
Well, Supes is a dude who clearly knows his priorities. I mean, how is he supposed to continue his super-powered fight with Doomsday if those damn kids keep messing up his property?
(This is just a joke. I'm emphasizing it for the two peopke who read this who can't recognise humour.)
Can you tell me your opinion about how Spiderman ( Peter Parker ) is treated in the comics.
Peter parker just gets screwed over in comics being the character that always has his life getting fucked up in some way never getting a true happy ending
@@thegoldengamer9315 Yeah true but regardless of all the bullshit he has to endure he still always does the right thing when it counts, a true hero
I would really love to see a crossover event.. The Incredible HULK vs DOOMSDAY 💥🔥!!!!!... I'm waiting...
All might vs Namu vibes
There's so many killing method for doomsday they try it and they failed, cuz everytime he died he becomes stronger than one before his immunity and adaptation is extremely insane!
The only way to defeat Doomsday is by trapping him into the other dimensions,
Or throw into the supermassive blackhole
Superman doesn't stand a chance unless he really lets loose and stop caring about civilians. Perhaps Titania should go back and show Superman how its done.
How does this fight end
they need to use their brains and trick DD into attacking DS
This is post crisis and new 52 rebirth, right? Time period.
4000 punches in a second. Superman could do the EXACT same thing to Hulk, and there's NOTHING Hulk could do about it.
I like when supes told doomsday I got this from the flash...dope.
Hulk could eat punches from Supes like nothing my dude, you obviously have no clue how hulk scales these days after the immortal hulk run that just happened
The same result that happen with doomsday taking it, will happen with hulk
@@ChewbaccaOnDrugs1130 ehhh
Wrong.
Go to WWH vs. Sentry. Sentry can move to comparable speeds as Sups, since he’s a Sups knockoff.
WWH is able to match *combat speed and reflexes.* Hulk was able to tag Sentry going at light speeds. All Hulk needs is awareness of where his foe is at.
Normal, running speed. Of course Sentry (or Sups, in this case) would win. But combat speed, Hulk can match speedsters and their flurry of punches. You just to do a little more reading, rather than making absolutes. Easy to make the logic, and you’re missing something, dude. Trust me, happens to all of us. Just read a little more and connect the dots.
It makes very little sense when Superman or whoever starts throwing trucks and cars at Doomsday. In reality his invulnerability and strength should make them meaningless as attacks.
Oh, wait, was this the one BEFORE the Paul Cornell Luthor run? Or after? Who wrote this?
I might Aswell give it a Shot
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I guess this video shows what the title says... 4000 punches. I would really like to see the end of the fight though.
I wanna know who won too and how
4034? Very green numbers superman
I recognize this music from Aldnoah.Zero. (It was a pretty good Mecha anime but the second season felt off.)
Which issue was this clip from
4:07 Did he stab him with his beard ??
I think so! That’s hilarious!
Who is the author of this book?
ok sooooo Doomsday is basically the Hulk
Wheres the enxt part
What about injustice superman vs doomsday 😎
ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
That's the feeling I get for it too!
Is this the third or second time?
Doomsday vs Monarch, who wins?
l-lORNY World-Breaker Hulk vs. Power Girl on her PERIOD. 😉😁
What comic is this from?
Imagine Mangog vs JL lolololol
@warwik Xio ur point?..So Mangog can beat World forger right?
You know what's annoying.not getting to see the conclusion of the fight
Doomsday was so strong he probably would have destroyed both Wonder Woman and Superman together had he not have been removed by the phantom zone projector.
WTF???? How's the fight end?
Can't just leave usx hanging like that...😲😠🕵
Ever since Injustice, I can't help but chuckle every time WW gets her ass kicked.
You shouldn't judge a character based on a stupid elseworld story out of main continuity. plus, she didn't get beat here. at the end her and supes finally managed to beat DD in a clever way
Honestly I think they should have stopped with doomsday after doomsday Rex. 1 Superman Doomsday into submission he really shouldn't have remained a recurring billing. I mean I understand they want to do Tuesday to be some Primal polar opposite to Superman but it just doesn't work. Doomsday and Superman are essentially locked in a evolutionary arms-race since they both have the ability to evolve past whatever stress is puts their lives in jeopardy. Is Superman's case once he finishes the stress Evolution he can encounter the person again and again and defeat them with some early greater eased unlike the earlier encounters with doomsday where he had to beat doomsday in a different way every time he encountered him. Now it's like they're just brawling with each other and don't really care if they live or die it just doesn't work anymore. Admittedly one version the Doomsday that I enjoyed was the one that went after Magog after doomsday thought that my God could kill Superman who stayed back to back with doomsday to fight him knowing that his family members and friends were a true simply because he could not abandon a thinking person who came to his Aid when he was fighting in the Army of Magog time duplicates
I've never read the version of this story between Doomsday vs Superman and Wonder Woman, does anyone know of which comic that we can read the version that is shown in this video? For me the original story is the best it brings back memories I wish they would make a movie based on the 1992 comics with Justice League it would be epic also I know Supergirl that we see in the comics of 1992 is not not Kara Zor-El it's Matrix a creation of Lex Luthor I believe. I still liked the adaptation of Doomsday in the movie Batman v Superman (in which based the story arc by Zack Snyder for the continuity in Justice League 2021 not the corrupted version of Joss Whedon we saw in 2017) which would be General Zod transformed into a monster and I know some doesn't like it but I believe that Superman did not meet the real Doomsday in that movie, imagine the real one!
Action Comics #960. This is during the Rebirth era where Post-Crisis Superman returns after the death of his New 52 counterpart
@@kaihedgie1747 thanks for the info 👍
There’s only one real way to stop doomsday.....
Thanos (prime eternal) vs these 3 on base levels
Vs Superman Wonder Woman and doomsday? That’s stupid. Of course they would win
It’s unfair
someone mop whats left of Thanos up what's
Hulk vs doomsday is what I wanna see
What's Prime Eternal Thanos?
Doomsday these days is taking Tae-kwon-ndo classes I mean he just kicked ww's face while she tried to pull him 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This fight sigh.....
But the fact that superman and winderwoman are having a casual conversation about how their days went whilst fighting doomsday 🤦🏿♂️ kind of diminishes how serious a fight with doomsday should be.... Terrible writing.
I believe that's the whole point in starting of fight they thought it was just a some regular monster who will be easily beated by them and we're having casual conversation but as fight advanced they realized that doomsday was real deal and moments turned serious.
@@adityabharat1445 no superman and wonder woman remembered who it was superman made reference in not wanting the fight to turn out like it did when they first fought with him dead.. so to have him and winderwoman talk about their day whilst facing his most physical and the only for who killed him... For me that is piss poor writing
@@solemarc oh OK
@@solemarc *Wonder Woman*
They were mostly thanking each other for saves and trying to come up with strategies. How is that poor writing? 🤔
My question is
HOW THE HELL IS WONDER WOMAN'S SHIELD IN TACT AFTER ALL THAT?!
Umm... god shield? Probably
@@baowo7184 From a beast who literally PUNCHED his way out of a dimension where he has no physical form?
Wha? O.e
@@bluewulv comic logics
The Hulk wood smash doomsday to nothing in like 5 minutess
:)
I honestly like Rogol Zaar better, he's a smarter and equally dangerous version of Doomsday.
He looks scary, but he fights more like a warrior than a monster. Doesn’t hit the same vibes.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 True true but he is on Doomsday's level and not a mindless savage.
@@awolfinhumanshape2623 Doomsday being a mindless savage bent on destroying everything that moves is what makes him so cool imo.
@@burgerbandit3646 Trust me Doomsday will always be goated as the guy who first defeated our boy in red and blue, but Rogol Zaar has more interesting potential.
@@awolfinhumanshape2623 when you put it like that You certainly have a point! Hopefully we see more of rogal soon. Wondering if he really is a czarnian like the fan theories say.