Classical Composer Reacts to The Logical Song (Supertramp) | The Daily Doug (Episode 564)
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2023
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In this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to music by Supertramp with their lead single from Breakfast in America, The Logical Song. I had heard this one before, but I had never given much attention to the lyrics or to the song's construction. So, this was quite an eye-opening and lovely listen, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!
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Supertramp is probably the most underappreciated band of it's era. So many great songs, sophisticated stuff, but everyone seems to miss them among the Best Of.
They weren't underappreciated. 2 Grammy's for this album.
Most obvious evidence for this is the fact that they haven't been inducted into the R'n'R Hall of Fame yet. Or should I say Hall of Shame?
@@Jaezon Best produced rock album and best cover artwork, right?
Exactly! The composers combo Hodgson/Davies is at the same level that Beatles’ Lennon/McCartney
Breakfast in America is an all time classic album. Great composition & songwriting,
I played that album so much that my needle carved deeper grooves and now it plays Rush Moving Pictures.
It had the most commercial success, especially in the US but I preferred the three previous albums to Breakfast in America.
@@grahamkemble3917 I agree. There are other really solid tracks on this album, though, like 'Child of Vision' and 'Take the Long Way Home'.
@@grahamkemble3917 So'd I tbh, but Supertramp deserved a massive hit LP such as BIA before the well ran dry-& they/we got it! Perfect ending to the last yr of the amazing 70's! 🎯
Not a bad song on that album.
That toy whistle at the climax of the song is one of the best moments in all of rock music. It breaks the tension built up in the preceding rising chords in an unexpected and humorous manner.
IMHO, the best album of 1979. A real slap to the punkers.
And it is a sonic recall to the opening verse?
The Wall.
Oh my, that might be one of the stupidest remarks I have ever read - the end remark. If you are not from the UK, 1979 there was great upheaval in UK society and 'punkers' as you called them were all disassociated youth who had nothing to look forward too and the music of the time bore that out. Thatcher was evil. Most street level punks never had the chance at music education and came from very poor backgrounds. Bands like Yes, Supertramp etc all came from privileged backgrounds. So it is easy to see why they were rebelled against.
I grew up in the UK and in Canada and was able to have a musical education. Yes I like punk music, not the Sex Pistols, they were a joke but bands like The Clash, The Damned, XTC, Ramones and later hardcore bands Discharge, GBH etc.. I also played jazz and loved bands such as Pink Floyd, Bowie, Supertramp etc. Music is personal and everyone likes what they are drawn too.
Saying it was a slap to punkers in just misinformed and ignorant.
And the alarm clock 😉
"Get up - you have to become more logical & cynical!"
@@PhilipvanderMatten Day after day, love turns gray...
Education: the path from cocky ignorance to miserable uncertainty.
- Mark Twain
In terms of songwriting sophistication and production for the era, this is almost on par with Steely Dan, which is a high compliment.
Vy High!
IDK about all that my friend, this album was good no doubt but the songwriting skills & production of Steely Dan? You sure you weren't really high when you made this comment? Blah,ha,ha!!! ++Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul++
@@216Numbskull better than Steely Dan. How about that?
@@craigcotter7476 Yeah sure OK if you say so, you do you it's all good. Let's just enjoy the music altogether how bout that, cool? Right On! +++Peace & Rock n' Roll 4 Your Soul+++
How to say you don't know anything about music without saying you don't know anything about music.
A huge hit even here in Brazil. I bought the album in 1979. I still listen that record.
I love the nod to Monty Python and the Holy Grail with the "One, two three... five!" count
Their 'watershed' album!!!!!!! Not a bum song on this album!!!!! I played the HELL out of this back in 1979!!!!!!!! One of their ABSOLUTE best!!!!!!!!!
And then Live In Paris came out and I played the heck out of that one😊
Casual Conversations is brilliant
My favorite song of all time! Roger Hodgson is GOD! This song haunted me throughout my childhood. I was 6 years old when this song came out. I relate to it so much now as to when I was young back then. Brilliant song!
Roger was amazing. I loved Supertramp, but I found his solo material after he left the band to be quite amazing, Had A Dream from the album In The Eye Of The Storm is one of my fav songs by him barring Supertramp songs.
I like “it’s raining again”
It’s a great song, but no! Roger is not.
Totally agree loved it since I was 14
Supertramp were a phenomenal band. It's a cliché but they didn't get the credit they deserved. I still love listening to their wonderful music today.
I saw this band in concert in Winnipeg back in 1979. My God it was the best concert I have ever seen. Not flashy, just musically amazing. They did this thing with the song Rudy that never forgot.
Supertramp were huge in Canada. This song is one of many to hit #1 on the Canadian charts.
The album "Breakfast in America" itself hit Diamond status (1.5 million) in a country with a population of around 24 million.
Than means 1 in 16 people had an album, not including seniors 65+ or children under 14 makes it around 1 in 13, pretty incredible statistics.
That would be like a modern artist selling 43+ million copies of an album in the USA.
That's insane
I grew up in a house with the 8-track of Breakfast in America and many other rock albums on vinyl and 8track thanks to my much older brother.
Love Rogers vocals in this and the lyric is so inventive!
And I adore sax ..
Ah, soundtrack of my youth.
Such a wonderful band. Thanks, Doug.
Hands down, one of the best bands of the 70's--really, one of the great rock bands, period. Interesting lyrics set to smart, sophisticated, cleverly arranged music that perfectly blends prog and pop sensibilities. Their bassist, Dougie Thomson, is an unsung hero in my eyes, seamlessly blending drive and melody and color, while understanding the huge importance of space (a trait the whole band shares).
Love seeing Roger Hodgson honored with a Daily Doug. He's a brilliant artist and, by all accounts, a gentle, spiritual soul. His music has been something of a liferaft for me during some very difficult times in my life. I've literally had days when I thought I should just end things, but his music has stirred me to push through.
Pushing on is what we do get some Ginseng, spirulina and enjoy the sunset 4 ever😊
the sound of the mattell hand held football game always takes me back to my 12th grade history class in'79. a couple of guys were playing with it in the back of the class and that sound caught the teacher's ear. of course he took the game away. at the time that was state of the art in gaming. how far we've come!
I never listened to the lyrics & finding out what they are & mean it gives the song an entirely new meaning. And I completely agree. I’m a preschool teacher I’m a naturally childlike person. I love working with open minded wonder filled children. It soothes my soul. Gives me hope. But eventually they hit the wall of conformity & it breaks my heart. I too became a cynic but more of a rebel. Raging against the machine, the mold my family & society thought I should be. I have Peter Pan syndrome. LOL Also as a teacher curriculum is a beast.
I'll second that.
Awesome post, Melissa. Thanks!
An alumnus of two boarding schools myself (London UK aged 8-13 & Cape Town aged 13-17), the lyrics of this song struck home for me when I first heard it while working in Hong Kong. My youngest and his band played this at his boarding school last year. It proved so popular that it has been adopted as the senior school's theme song for this year's Year Book video. ❤
Love Supertramp!
Amazing albums. Brilliant musicians and great songs
Paris album is fantastic!
Brilliant tune. I listened to it for more than forty years. It has always caught my attention as it contrasts to a careful and pleasant melody, the "wild" sax that appears in the last part of the song, but that really highlights everything.
Great song. Great choice.
My favorites out of all their great music is #1 The Logical Song, #2 The Long Way Home, & #3 Goodbye Stranger.
What I always took from this song was that it was about the loss of childhood innocence. When you are little, the world is new & magical. Everything is full of joy & wonder. But then you start to grow up, go to school where you learn from adults (& other kids) how to look at your world through different eyes. As you continue to mature, you become part of society & are expected to act, think, & say things a certain way. But deep down you are still an independent person with dreams, creative imagination, & opinions that might go "against the grain" of what you were taught and how others think. It's a song of trying to understand yourself & wanting to break free of conformity instead of being "just another brick in the wall" (as Pink Floyd said). The voices are amazing, but that saxophone is on FIRE! Music from the 70's & 80's & a little bit from the 90's is the only thing I listen to. Don't care for today's music; regardless of genre.
Timeless classic, it’s that great!
One of my very favourite songs. The lyrics make are so relatable now I am in my 50's.
Some extremely good production on that album.
Amazing band!
The production on this tune is just phenomenal. And the lyrics, so relatable!!!
I see what you did there 😏
Yeah, we joke about how pop songs are all I-IV-V7 rinse and repeat, but often their chord progressions are pretty sophisticated and out there. Amazing piece of music.
Supertramp is the Best
I was only 9 when Breakfast in America was released. I listened to all the songs repeatedly over and over and still love it to this day. The lyrics in The Logical Song are excellent and helped increase my vocabulary at the time.
Love this band. A+.
You have wonderful Style how you explain music how you listen to music 👏 👏 👏
Great song!
Epic song, remarkable & life-changing.
One of my all time favourite songs given a new understanding thanks to this reaction. Superb.
Thank you Doug . With all of your knowledge that you are gracious enough to share , your humility and warmth is what resonates with listeners .
'Breakfast in America' would be one of my 10 desert island CD's. Supertramp is an amazing band with a superlative body of work.
The album is the first LP I bought. When CD appeared, it's the first CD I bought.
My favorite Supertramp song.
It all began with “Dreamer” for me, and I still rate that song as one of my all-time favourites
I saw them touring behind this album and incredible concert,they were so good live.
When this album dropped I was so excited because from what I had heard I needed to hear more and boy was I right it's a fantastic voyage!!! Great album Doug!!! Thanks for covering this song❤
Breakfast in America was the soundtrack to my freshman year of college. University of Illinois, Sherwood Lodge, opium den #1, (Bob’s room); thank you Bob for introducing me to Supertramp, and I forgive you for all those hours of your guitar playing.
Resonates all the way through!
Fantastic band and a great song. Thank you.
What a unique voice!
You have an amazing technical grasp of music (to us laypeople) and a great delivery. I so appreciate your analysis. Also, as a fellow old (?) guy, I dig that you patiently dissect these tunes that we all just took for granted for so long.
Fantastic song. Perfect.
“What did you do as a child that made the hours pass like minutes? Herein lies the key to your earthly pursuits.” ― C.G. Jung
Wonderful analysis from the channel👍 'Child of vision' is also a pure gem (among others) from this masterpiece album.
Thanks, Doug for a very informative reaction video well done. I was 13 and Breakfast In America was my first album I ever bought. It's still one of my favourite albums and this is my favorite song. At that age I definitely resonated with the lyric, my questions about life definitely ran deep.
Love watching you always great content
I am since 40 Years a big fan of Supertramp. I have all their albums on CD and Vinyl. I never under-appreciated them. There is no other band with the same sound. Thanks for the video
I like to quote carl sagan:
Without the arts and humanities, whats the point of understanding the universe??
Yes indeed, we transition from the wonder and magic of childhood; through the confusion of adolescence, and emerge as prescription medication or alcohol consumers in order to cope with the harsh reality of our lives...
Do as you have been programmed to do - let's all smile and be happy now!
Do It’s Raining Again. The sax outro, perfect.
Gone Hollywood is such a great song. Almost heavy in Supertramp terms. The guitar riff is outstanding,
The best on the album
This is definitely on my list of songs I never get tired of hearing.
this song was 8th grade for me -how profound this song was to me -thanks much Doug! Luv this channel :-}
I was 11 years old when this album was released and I remember listening to the cassette over and over. It had a huge impact on me. I may not have understood the themes, but I loved the sound.
Love that you connected this to The Wall! I never thought about that.
saw them live just as they were entering the charts with their first chart single in the uk and to this day still one of the best live bands ive ever seen (and ive seen all the big 70,s and 80.s big bands)
I‘m 16. Love it. I really wish I grew up in the 70‘s….
Always a cool song. Never gets old either. 🙌🏻
This song was a great hit here in Brazil at80's too...
Hey Doug, I love this album and Supertramp was a great band with songwriting that was a lot more sophisticated than many people probably realize.
"What to leave out,
What to leave in"
Bob Seger
Against the Wind
A beautiful song in IT'S RAINING AGAIN/Supertramp
Somebody dubbed the studio version over that stellar live performance. The ear knows.
Great reaction to a very interesting and important song. Thank you!
This is my go to song when I feel low. Reminds me of my parents, especially my dad. Listening to it a lot at the moment as not in a good place 😢😢
Great song, thanks for breaking it down through your brain. It's always interesting to get other takes from different mindsets.
I saw them during that tour (November 79) in Lyon whilst I was doing my National Service, astounding band live, unforgettable.
I have no doubt that you are a very talented composer and I would love to hear some of your music!!!
Here is the playlist for Doug's original compositions 💥‼️
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Supertramp were a thinking man's prog pop band.... always great thoughtful songwriting and arrangements. 👍💫 Another UK band....Glad you dug it Doug....
A little fact. The sound the comes in after digital, is from a hand held football game from Radio Shack. It was the sound the game made when you were tackled.
Love this song!!!!
I ran up on your channel by listening to one of my favorite groups. I just celebrated my 66th birthday. This story I'm about to tell you about Supertramp is absolutely the truth. I lived in the Willamette valley in 1978 and 79. My friend and I got tickets to Supertramp playing at the Paramount theater in Portland. I think since then they've torn that place down. I don't think the Paramount theater in Portland exist anymore I'm not sure. But I got the tickets and we went. It's full seating unlike other concert venues. It was amazing! When they started to play most everything was dark. All of a sudden the stage lit up with lights. Rodger and all of Supertramp had pure white tuxedos on. The grand piano was totally white. It was the most amazing sight. I've been to a lot of concerts in Portland in the 80s at memorial coliseum. Never one so amazing as this.
My dad gave the band a ride to the laundromat one time. He worked at Peaches record store chain in Memphis is the 70s and bands would stop in on their tour and do record signings. They were on their tour bus and needed to wash their clothes.
Thanks for the dive into Rogers lyrics Maestro 🎶🙏💗
The sax player is just vibing the whole video😂
Amazing song. Amazing.
We lived and breathed Supertramp in the 70's! Love them!
supertramp rocked!
Another master piece of the great Roger Hodgson...
I'm old enough to be a contempary fan of Supertramp at their peak. I fondly remember driving from London to Devon in the summer of 1980 with this at full volume. They are a favourite band of mine and the logical song is genius.
Agreed, a great statement..
This song always reminds me of "Wind up" by Tull. I always forget how much I love Supertramp. Thanks for video.
It's such a great song! I knew about it, but wasn't aware what it was about.
Funny I was just listening to this album! Great reaction and breakdown of the song.
Nice harmonic analysis. I love the altered chords that add complexity (eg: the IV with the A-natural)
A child of God…
Inspired by the Holy Spirit!Creative and beautifully expressed
Wow, I've forgotten this tracks charm. Added to my playlist. Thanks for the breakdown, Doug! Keep it up!!
It’s so popular how can you forget it?
Great episode! I found the "feeling" inherent in Supertramp, Pink Floyd and even Marillion (yet another British band) very southing while growing up in the 70s/80s. While they all lean to the more melancholy side of things, they also open you up to questions. I think it was a good thing.
One of my favorite albums all time. Breakfast in America a loaded with radio play hits and a few solid B's sides.
This came out 2 months before I graduated high school. A major resonance with / for me and my young life.
This is just the second of your videos I have watched (the first was Hi Ren) and now I will subscribe because I want to hear your thoughts and analysis of more music that I love.
This song is tremendous. The whole album is.
Reacting to the full album is a must now.
I love how the beautiful outtro chords smacks him in the face at 6:25
That Digital clip is The first use of like Sampling ..... So fun !