The True Scope Of The Dragon Ball Heroes Multiverse!
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- In this video we will go over in detail the cosmology of the Dragon Ball Heroes Multiverse! From the Universe 7 everybody is familiar with, to places beyond the crack of time and even Beat's world it's a real trip to see just how big and unique the Dragon Ball multiverse really is.
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Hope you guys enjoy the video! I look forward to implementing this cosmology into future analysis for videos.
The cosmology of Hereos is a very big topic, and I couldn't have done all the research and translations by myself, as it is hard to get ahold of much of the japanese exclusive content and translate it, so huge thank you to everybody who helps out with translations and brigning new information to my attention. My Buddy Zenkai, who helped in the research for this, actually did a blog for Heroes cosmology which has alot of important scans and information, so check it!
character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zenkaibattery1/Dragon_Ball_Heroes_hierarchy_redone
Super Saiyan 3 was not meant for the natural world. To me this means it can only be achieved in another dimension like the Room of Spirits and Time or the Afterlife. This is why Vegeta never got the form.
What do you think about my theory
When Xeno trunks vs Archie silver debunk coming out? Also DBH characters are insanely haxy and have a load of abilities
SSJ I have a question, would you agree that the super dimension destroyed by gogeta and broly are within the macrocusm as it's destruction did not affect the nuetral zone or other macrocusm, plus we know that buhan was pulling multiple dimension to destroy the universe and this dimension doesn't affect the nuetral zone or other macrocusm meaning they are within the macrocusm. Alongside other dimensions like illusion, pendulum room and dimensions of past kami , deadzone are within the macrocusm alongside other dimensions in the movies as movies are separate time lines including dimensions from gt as every dimension showed in the movies or gt does not affect the nuetral zone or other macrocusm.
@@ngosongjr1908 I think it is likely at minimum connected to U7. If it counts as part of U7 is never specified, but that would be the most likely placement by default. Iirc they do mention in guides that all the stuff before DBS took place in U7, so dead zone etc is in U7 for sure.
@@SSJRyu1 ssjryu1 why don’t you ever chat in Zamasu’s server? You’re a legend bro
Dragon Ball's cosmology is technically stacked like an infinite tower of pure Z letters.
In the real world, Beat sees DB as a fictional game (lower dimension), but at the same time it is a parallel dimension with Goku's world, which again is fiction for the real world, but again it is a parallel reality at the same time and the cycle repeats infinitely. It is a circular and constant reality/fiction transcendence, since they are seen as real and fictional at the same time.
This is consistent with classic manga, because in gag/parody mode, they sometimes recognize themselves as fictional characters, like when Krillin complained because Toriyama/Toribot was tracing the manga panels as a complaint, or like when that corpse of that Red Ribbon soldier temporarily came back to life to tell General Blue that he and the rest of the squad had died as if nothing had happened, despite having an arrow stuck in his head and 2 in his chest, or like when ninja Murasaki tried to cover himself with the USA flag, even though geographically the land of DB is nothing like ours. In the anime there is even merchandising with "The Super Saiyan" shirts when normal people only knew Vegeta and Nappa who were normal saiyans, Magenta playing DBZ Kakarot, etc...
congratulations @SSJRyu1 , you've finally made a dragon ball outerversal video. Not many people dare to express or know that Dragon Ball cosmology is at least as strong as this, even at the low end
I look forward to your and @zenkaibattery1 future content.
😂😂😂😂😂 and for a good reason, because it isn't true
@@roywempor8395 that is factually incorrect they didn't do enough research, or ignoring facts just like you
One of the most detailed and greatly explained db cosmology video🎉🎉🎉🎉
10:41 In the manga, Perfect Cell's Kamehameha was so fast that it surpassed the Earth's atmosphere before Goku reappeared on the platform with teleportation, and Goku compared the effectiveness of teleportation to Tokitobashi, which is equivalent to moving while the time is stopped for everyone except Hit, since both techniques come from the instantaneous movement family. In fact, on the official Dragon Ball website they mention that teleportation/Shunkanidō takes the user from one place to another instantly, and the Daizenshuu says the same, but about the Kai Kai.
That Kamehameha should not have moved even a millimeter between the disappearance and reappearance process of teleportation, much less reach outer space before Goku reappeared on the tatami.
And during that event, Goku at least "had the time" to be able to see the speed of that Kamehameha, and in the process he was able to put his fingers on his forehead, focus to reappear where Cell was and counterattack before that Kamehameha reached him.
However, when Cell began to use part of what was his true speed, Goku was unable to react.
Speed of Cell > Speed of Cell's Kamehameha that reached outer space before the Shunkanidō reached Earth.
Not for nothing did Cell tell Goku that despite not having the Shunkanidō, he trusted in his speed a lot.
Chapter: 399 (DBZ 205), P14.4
Context: after circling behind Goku
Cell: “I'm confident in my speed too. Even if I can’t Teleport.”
Reading between the lines: “I assure you that you will not feel the difference between my speed and your teleportation.”
Good attention to detail. It's likely that he has moments of incredibly intense short burst of speeds which makes sense considering how much stamina these movements consume. Basically my point is remember when Roshi was fighting Krillin and did a whole battle scene in 0.2 seconds but to us at first just looked like they jumped in the air and back to the ground. I would imagine anything that happens in between spot A of teleportation to spot B teleportation would have someone with temporary infinite speed or at bare minimum able to react on a Planck time kind of scale. Considering King Piccolo fires lasers from his eyes and in the Daizenshuu confirmed them to be "heat rays from the eyes" it's definitely not outrageous to consider the higher and middle end of such speeds.
You're a goat among DB powerscalers no cap
Indeed. My goat Cell
Damm it's been a while, good to have you back
glad to see the GOAT return. excited to finally see that trunks vs silver breakdown
The fight was cool, but the result was stupid
Damn, haven't seen you in a long time! I kinda drifted away from all the debate stuff but your videos are still fun.
Yo I feel the same way😂 I don’t take this shit as seriously if at all as I did a couple years ago
Always glad to hear from you. You been around since day 1.
W cook daddy people are extremely cognitive dissonant but this easily reaches outer
Why call another man “daddy” seek help
Good to see you’re still uploading ryu. Keep it up man.
Amazing W king , glad to see you finally back 🤩
Thankyou for the video and welcome back. Being beyond regular 3d space time should always be taken with a grain of salt depending on what series we are talking about. Theres some series where characters move in a place with no space or time like digory and polly.... and while aslan probably slaughters lots of dbs characters..... i doubt anyone will argue that digory and polly would "speedblitz" dbs or dbz, just because they moved in that empty place prior to narnia getting created.
Also idw popeye oneshotted an alien from the 7th dimension without his spinach..... yet all he could say about it after was its teeth were as hard as titanium or diamond iirc (idw popeye is much weaker then the old cartoons).
So most of the top tier of DBH will scale to likely Outerversal level or the full rating of Outer level, right?
Demigra
solos
also good to see you back man
We should’ve known that Death Battle (formerly known as Screwattack) cannot be trusted!
Pretty good detailed video! I disagree with the outer stuff personally, but I can see the implications of hyperversal stuff for Heroes & Xenoverse! Very interesting!
Wait so everyone and their moms can be outer in marvel on your channel, even characters who blatantly aren't outer at all. But dragon ball isn't allowed🤣🤣🤣
@@AuberyReedThese guys will find ways to make Aunt may outerversal but as soon as dbz starts getting the same treatment then they are all Goku meatriders
Thanks man, glad you liked it. Yeah the Outerversal stuff is a pretty big new jump I have to admit.
I personally think since the sub space is outside the concepts of time and space, lacking them entierly, and also transcends time and holds dimensional structures proving it's not just 0D, it implies superiority and not just an absence of the concepts of time and space, qualifying it for Outer.
However it is a high end and the higher dimensional stats should be mentioned along side it as a more conservative level alternative.
@@SSJRyu1 and there's Fortnite Beerus Goku and Vegeta who are undeniably Omniversal lol
Since when do Xenoverse characters have arguments for higher dimensional attack potency?
Each of 12 alternate Dragon Ball cosmologies = OUTERVERSAL???
Amazing video bro🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Good to have you back dude 😎
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Super Saiyan 3 was not meant for the natural world. To me this means it can only be achieved in another dimension like the Room of Spirits and Time or the Afterlife. This is why Vegeta never got the form.
Maybe it means that it is a form that requires a unnatural amount of stamina to be achieved, that only a dead person possesses
Either that or vegeta wasn't interested in getting the form in the first place or unless he is truly motivated to do so an example would be the raging blast series or other versions of himself who wanted to achieve it.
@@kristopherdorsey8561 yeah i mean he already has god and blue so why bother
@@davimedina5165 I Was just talking about before Battle of Gods after the buu saga
@@sonnywoods6846 oh okay
Wonderfully edited and put together video. Keep up the work man🔥
yo, it has been a long time glad you are back.
Great video keep up all i see is facts from the information you gave.
Good to see you're back
WE LOVE AND MISSED YOU❤❤❤❤
Would you do a mechikabura up to date scaling now he even took over fu and merged with demigra in heroes ? He’s absolutely broken I think
Yes my man, he is on my short list to make a video of for sure. He is indeed a very broken character.
That was perfect
You're actually hinting that Dbs Goku is outerversal already.
Fr it’s sounds like it
Ssj Ryu 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yooo let’s go goat is back
The King is back🤩
Great Video! just wanna know your thoughts on the feat between vegito and broly where they shatter reality, where do you scale it?
Gogeta and Broly feat was pretty epic. Not a lot is known about the place they entered, other than it was outside reality. I'll do a bit more research and see if I can't address it in a future post or video in detail.
@@SSJRyu1they stated it was super dimensional
2:46 Since Goku threatened the macrocosm, in 3 hits would've obliterated everything which has universe size realms he would've been universal + back in BoG since he affected the realms that universe in size. People who deny the BLATANT statements from the narrator, Whis, Vegeta, Shin are literally delusional. He then, later on, absorbs SSG into his base from thus becoming many times stronger.
And as an excuse they start inventing that the waves "were more powerful than Goku and Beerus", which is false. Since the waves did not kill the Kaiōshin, nor Kaiō, nor Bubbles nor Gregory during the first 2 crashes. With that fallacious logic, you could think that everything that was close was safe and only what was very far from the epicenter of the crash would be harmed. Which is debunked by Ro Kaiōshin, because he said that even them but also Goku and Beerus would die after the third clash.
@@SerieT800 it's not the shockwaves itself that was the main thing the shockwaves would obliterate stuff but the final clash itself would be the end of it. Think of it this way when you mess with the Fabrics of reality it doesn't just tear apart reality the more a character messes with the fabric of reality the more it gets strained and then the next time they do it it was just completely come off all together so that's what's happening with the shock waves the shock waves are basically weakening the foundation of the Dragon Ball cosmology and by the final one would have tear apart all under and basically destroy it all.
You clearly don't know how this world works first of all, the supreme kai planet even though its a planet, it not a regular planet. One when Goku and Vegeta fought kid Buu, Old kai stated this planet can handle what it can dish out because it a lot more tougher. it's been stated in the guide books the kaioshin planet is 1/10 the size of the macrocosm so it's clear not our size just like heaven, yes it's a planet but it's been stated to be the size of a universe so it's not going to be the same as destroying a planet. Destroying Heaven would be equivalent to destroying a universe in power it's not the same if you knew the lore of the writing so the destroy it would basically basically destroying a celestial object that's 1/10 the size of the macrocosm which is insanely big the planet is not miniscule it looks small from what it was shown and stated its far bigger so that way it didn't destroy that but it didn't matter because the shock waves were not the main point because it was stated that the final class was going to obliterate everything in the macrocosm.
When Goku was fighting Beerus later on the Supreme Kai said "how come they are throwing multiple punches and the universe is not getting destroyed and then the Shockwave are gone" Elder Kai stated it it a brawl now Goku learned how to control his energy, was mostly on Goku's fault because he got a new transformation and did not know how to use the power he had Ki control and and was able to minimize destruction. Also you are ignoring statements for Whis and Vegeta and narrator but only Elder Kai so you're saying Elder Kai is is only reliable but you can't take the statement that he would destroy the universe but he is still reliable enough that the shock waves would kill Beerus and Goku. also Elder Kai doesn't know Beerus's power. Clearly that would not destroy Beerus why would he be in a fight that would kill him?
And we see in the manga and anime when Beerus and Champa were going to fight they stated that they would not destroy one universe but both universe and they weren't worried or concerned. So will they can survive they didn't care.
@@Arcseal That's my point. It was the third shock itself that was going to destroy the universe, not the vibrations/waves that were just a side effect. In the end, what was near or far did not matter, everything was going to be destroyed in the same way and was going to become a void formed by nothing. And it was not a contribution of the first 2 collisions, it was simply the effect of the third, nothing more, the effect of the first 2 collisions had already happened and its waves only destroyed asteroids and a planet. Which makes the third crash possess a feat universe buster, because that single third crash was the one that was going to destroy the universe.
The Kaiōshin planet is not a tenth of the universe, it is the entire Kaiōshin Realm, which Toriyama said Beerus could destroy at his expense. 1/10 part of infinity is infinite.
Ro Kaiōshin did not know Beerus' maximum power, but he knew enough about him to claim that he could already destroy the universe without using his full power and he let Shin know.
I didn't ignore anything. I know perfectly well that the narrator said that Beerus with the false 100% of him and Goku were hitting each other with power capable of destroying the universe, so clearly apart from having universal destructive power they also have universal durability.
Goku didn't need three hits to destroy universe 7, he could do it from the first one
@@yeikelamores6085 Goku would need Three punches to destroy the universe 7
I've scaled this to 10d+ and high hyperversal
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Would the subspace be inside the timeline? Or outside of it? Because how can it be an outer construct if it sits inside the hypertimeline?
The sub space is described as being separate from all the dimensions, so it is outside the timeline, but connected to it.
We know that they can teleport to other universes and Zeno's palace, so it is connected to everything in the timeline most likely. If we look at XenoVerse they can even IT to other timelines and the crack of time which is outside time and the multiverse, so it's scope of what it's connected to is truly massive.
Although funny enough ROSAT and Suguro space are said to be inside sub space. Those places are said to be outside or between dimensions to though. That's what we know about it's placement. Although it is definitely below the blank page and Beats world which view the DB manga/anime as fiction.
Wow a SSJRYU video
a question, where does this leave Legends' statement that there are infinite spatial and dimensional dimensions superimposed on each other, the Superdimensional structure of the Broly novel, the world of the reincarnated protagonist as Yamcha who sees heroes, XenoVerse, ect as fiction and real world Japan?
Id need to see the specific scans for legends to comment on that. Yamcha is interesting as is the Broly movie super dimension. Id have to look deeper into them. Maybe good topics for a future video.
@@SSJRyu1 S Shining had the scan, he had even translated it with deep l
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Beats world doesn’t see them as fiction. While beat does create an avatar to go into the game, that was only for the tournament itself. Certain things did happen in the game, but the events happened outside of it. As we later have great saiyaman 3 state that Xeno Goku and Vegeta are not from the game, later revealing himself as Xeno trunks.
Even in dragon ball hero: victory mission, it was stated that the game was created based on real historical heros.
The Game was inspired by past events, the actual game is literally fictional and a game to him though, and it's where a good chunk of the story is from. Trunks even remarks it should be impossible for the game characters to get into the real world, also the fact Beat is just an avatar and fictional representation of him with different abilities and look shows it's not just time travel or another space time, otherwise it would be the real him, not an avatar if it was just a parallel timeline.
@@SSJRyu1 Sendo fictício, isso poderia até nerfar a cosmologia do Heroes.
Welcome back
Hey dude, its been a long time since we interacted, but its really good to see you back! Fantastic video as always, great job covering how the DB cosmology expanded over the years.
Btw, are you excited for the NYCC announcement for DB Magic? Theres a chance we might get to see more of thr Demon Realm this time!
Also, are you planning to address the Sailor Moon and Sonic arguments against DB in the future by any chance?
I am looking forward to the DBM info for sure. I do actually have a Archie silver vs Heroes Trunks video lined up so that will address a lot of the arguments with Sonic. Sailor moon is an interesting verse with lots of hax that I'd be up for doing in the future.
So is dbs goku 7d or higher? Also where does Zeno scale in this?
Easily 7D at least. Arguments can be made for much higher to.
@@SSJRyu1 I'm a little curious that you are using the VSBW or CSAP's tiering system standard to scale up the DBH cosmology as shown in the video?
Low hyper for zeno
Long time no see
Nice video but i dont think the subspace is outerversal and probably just 1 dimensional higher.
please make videos scaling DB characters using this
I find it weird to hear Fu's name pronounced like "Foo" rather than "Few". I mean it made sense when it was in a different language like maybe Spanish for "futuro" compared to the English "future" which is what his name is based on.
I was wondering what happened to you
Finally
Good video
Nice video
Literally Just overwhelming evidence for Living World being Infinite
Like Stacks and stacks of Scans saying "Infinite universe"
And people will still say "only 4 galaxies bruh"
not true
@@roywempor8395 Even if I gave you the evidence you would just dismiss it anyway. The fact that this information is so easily accessible yet you have the nerve to come on here and say "not true" like a goofball is amazing. Y'all are actually incredible with this Plausible deniability shit
@@TheeSinnerman goku is wall level, toryama told me right before dying
@@roywempor8395 Right. Scumbag.
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Just in time! considering they are releasing Frieza vs Megatron (G1 and IDW) in just three days from now, I am pretty excited to see you react to it.
I don’t think they’re gonna take this video into account
@@MegaMachiOnlinethey’re still using 9 universe BS
@@DaBossMn u4, u6, u11, could be sensed sooo
@@MegaMachiOnline no I mean the nine universe feat in BoG. What that means is they calculated DB universe to be 9 times larger than our universe
@@DaBossMn teaching infinities is harder than imaginary numbers sometimes
Yooooo new video
Do you know about the type 3 multiverse statements about the timelines in Dragon Ball on the official Dragon Ball website?
Also there is a statement in the official Dragon Ball Super Broly novel which states that Gogeta and Broly were going through and destroying super dimensions which would make them Outerversal ( super dimensions are completely different from super space ).
I am aware of statements about the structure of the multiverse. Although I haven't researched super dimensions in depth yet.
@@SSJRyu1 There is a UA-camr named Xander ( ssjxander ) that has a UA-cam short called scaling Goku vs his victims, he has a super dimensions statements in that video.
@@itsamebenjamintennyson1230 well the type 3 multiverse is just high hyperversal because of the hibertal space and the half is outer because super dimensions mean beyond the ordinary dimensions
Type 4
@@Sunwukong9988 Yeah, I know, that's what I was saying lol.
Been awhile lol
Yeah, I was unfortunately radio silent more or less much longer than expected.
@@SSJRyu1 Yeah well glad to see you back though.
So which version of hulk is outversal? and has he even reach the 13d
the only version that can be is Hulk possessed by everyone below
Superman has better feats then Goku, is smarter and has way more abilities
@@Nickfwan and all three are wrong, Goku has better Feats, he is smarter in combat and has more skills
Yooo
hehe
Yoo someone called vonkey made a debunk video on this video
Yeah I saw it. He also thinks Dr.Slump and DB don't share a universe despite the massive proof against him, U7 macrocosm is only 1 space time despite the massive proof against that claim, Goku is like only multi galaxy level, and word of god statements as well as guides aren't usable. If you look at his posts he also tries to "debunk" Dragon Ball scaling every time he talks about it. Overall his arguments leave alot to be desired, I don't agree with them, and he is clearly biased against any Dragon Ball scaling. I would take what he says with a grain of salt as far as Dragon Ball goes.
@@SSJRyu1So are u gonna respond?
@@Snooby_goobert Probably not. He really just was denying or outright ignoring evidence I showed in my video, dissmising WoG and other secondary sources like guides, and clearly is just biased with an agenda against DB. Not really worth responding to at this time.
@@SSJRyu1 yh, I’ve seen his videos. All he does is strawman his scans that’s it.
What are your thoughts on the "E World or Void" Dragonball Fighterz has? I believe Atari Hmb brought it up 6 months ago
It's an interesting one although the information is extremely limited. Possibly it is Outerversal based on the description, I may do a video on it in the future.
Bro GT is canon because if super is then so is GT because in Z there is no such thing as god ki
GT is not canon
@@X02Overdose yeah says by the dragon ball fandom and not the dragon ball
Makes me wonder how many D our universe is :O
Hard to tell honestly. Mathematicaly speaking there could very well be higher dimensions we can't perceive.
Nice vid, but you forgot that the afterlife also doesnt have the concept of time
It does have concept of time, otherwise it wouldn't have taken Goku 6 months to reach King Kai's world, or have spent the same ammount of time dead (7 years) as the time that was lived on Earth, it's just that the effects of time are different than in the living world, as it has a different dimentional axis than it, the times are correlative but it's still a different timespace.
@prometheusmodelow8322 otherwise ssj 3 wouldn't have worked if it did lol, stop coping
@@ru8e42 Nah man you are the one coping for no reason, my explanation makes sense of SSJ3 working in the afterlife, but it also explains Goku taking 6 months to reach King Kai, your interpretation can't explain the other instances of time being demonstrated to pass in the afterlife, and it's not like my explanation takes away from the added dimensional axis the afterlife has.
@@prometheusmodelow8322 super exciting guidebook and manga agree with me, user who's against author intent
@@prometheusmodelow8322
Your explanation doesn't show that time exists in the Afterlife. Goku didn't take 6 months to reach king Kai or stay dead for 7 years by perspective of the Otherworld. So time in the Afterlife is indefinite and what passes there are not actual days or months (the pink sky never changes), but an unknown amount of time since it doesn't really exist. In human terms, we could say it's like two days since time on Earth keeps moving until he return. When they say time, King Kai was talking about the living realm's time which he could perceive with his antennas that have interdimensional range, he wasn't talking about the Otherworld time lol. SSJ3 literally drains time, but Goku can use it indefinitely in Otherworld
Rey the goon said heros is Multiversel
He's wrong then XD
As discussed in the video the DB cosmology is filled with many infinite multiverses, as well as higher dimensional and potentially Outerversal structures.
POTENTIALLY but that make it outerversal @@SSJRyu1
The idea that Goku is outerversal is a fan theory that has gained popularity in some circles. However, it is not supported by any official sources or canon material.
To debunk this theory, it's important to understand what "outerversal" means. In general, the term refers to characters or entities that exist outside of the normal physical laws of the universe, and are able to manipulate or transcend space, time, and reality. These characters are often portrayed as extremely powerful and nearly invincible.
While Goku is undoubtedly one of the most powerful characters in the Dragon Ball universe, there is no evidence to suggest that he is outerversal. In fact, all of Goku's abilities and powers are based on the physical laws and limitations of the universe he inhabits. While he is able to manipulate energy and has achieved incredible feats of strength and speed, he is not portrayed as having the ability to transcend reality or manipulate space and time at will.
Wrong definition of outerversal.@@CeoOfThe4thDimension
VSbattle Wiki has upgraded Super Base Goku to low multiversal a long time ago
Least Wanked Dragon Ball scaling video. Need Boundless Farmer with Shotgun by tomorrow
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Hmph this sounds like goku is outerversal also glad to see you back my freind how has it been
I love how you misused quotes from people who directly stated they weren't talking about the DB cosmology to "prove" the cosmology is greater. Good evidence is better than made up evidence. That's why the debunk video clearly schooled you. Nice try but no one worth their salt will take you serious if you use a misinformation based scaling for your future videos.
wait a sec which debunk video are you even talking about?!
since usually DB debunks can end up being a failure.
@@AbrahamLincolnthegoat160 Key literally used receipts and panels to disprove this clown
@@paselitoru so ur talking about that guy name "Key" who got debunked several times and decide to ran away from "Drip sauce" like coward. also "Key" got debunked by a youtuber and he is going to get debunk again.
@@paselitoru tbh that Key actually lack with db scaling. also he might end up being "Surfbome 2.0". also that youtuber name "VC ElectronX" and "VC ElectronX" is the one who debunk "Key" and he is going to be one who going to debunk Key again
Outerversal...... people are still using this garbage vs battle wiki terms ? Such things literally doesn't exist, anything beyond tier 2-A is nonsense and shouldn't even be used
Elaborate claim
Shut up
Usual db downplay even when the evidence is there 🤡
Yeah nah DB is not outerversal, terrible misinterpretations
Tell me you don't know the scale of Goku and DB without telling me that you don't know the scale of Goku and DB
@@yeikelamores6085 Tell me you’re glazing DB verse without telling me that you’re glazing the DB verse
@@ThatGuyWithNoLife Literally everything we see in the video is official and canon information, literally no matter how you look at it, Sub space is outerversal by literal definition, not to mention the things above
@@yeikelamores6085 sub space is literally a sub dimension
@@ThatGuyWithNoLife Sub space literally cannot be a Sub dimension, when it literally contains dimensions in it,In addition to literally transcending the concepts of space and time,Also you are using the definition of Sub space in physics and comparing it with the Sub space of DB,Which is completely different, you are making a fallacy there
i wish youtube would stop recommending me these garbage dragon ball channels, i only mess with saiyan scholar.
Then simply ignore it and move on why did you feel the need to comment on this video? People like you make no sense whatsoever it's hilarious at this point
Ur kinda dumb ngl. You claim you don’t want these “garbage channels” on your recommendations but then you proceed to comment on the vid which only puts you into the algorithm so you can get more of these “garbage channels” recommended. You should’ve just ignored it dude or just straigh up click don’t recommend when you seen the vid.
Terrible comment from you, then just ignore his notifications. I could also say the same thing about saiyan scholar
Then ignore the video why are you crying in the comment section
some people just cant accept facts, everything in this video is supported by evidences so idk wtf you are talking about
This ain’t it
Goon
How
Im really happy to see you back , do you have discord? I have scans to show you
Thanks. I do, it's SSJRyu1#3347
Been awhile lol
Been awhile lol
Been awhile lol