These videos are such a great reference to go back to which I’ve been doing. It should be the bible for anyone thinking of which boat to buy to look at first Thank you .
Good stuff,, HC is beautiful boat, I have a baby HC,, A 37 ft Tayana Pilot house, and I simply love it. Offshore she comes into her own, great motion, solid and pretty to look at, yes more teak then a forest, but it adds to the charm. Enjoy your videos, lots of good info, thank you. Cheers. Pops Fl.
I did as well, and I know you've done Hans Christian boats, you haven't done the HCC model. Very curious as to what your take is on the Hans Christian Christina 43. BTW love your channel
B.O.A.T. Bring on another thousand. A hole in the water where you throw money. lol jk congratulations. Money can’t buy happiness, but it can buy you a boat and sail you pretty close. Endless hours of boredom interrupted by moments of sheer terror. Former Hans Christian owner here and I wouldn’t want any other.
Loving your videos and currently shopping for my first boat! However, I can't decide if you're actually helping, as all you've really done is make me fall in love with every boat and introduce me to ones I haven't even heard about or considered! All jokes aside, thanks for all your knowledge you're so happy to share!
At $80k I think the answer is still production boat. Just newer. I have a '05 Hunter 41DS. Everything on the boat is brand name. Hard to beat at the price-point.
Having started on my dad's Catalina 36, then being aboard larger hunters and Catalinas while out cruising now on my own HC33 I would take my "tiny" HC33 all day long. It has so much more storage space, better/safer layout for passage making, room for equipment, better build quality and motion...yeah the wood sucks to keep up with, but for long term cruising I'll take it all day long. Having been back and sailing my dad's Catalina this summer, while it's fun for how easily it accelerates, I really don't care for the motion, even just on Lake Huron, than I do my HC33 on the ocean. Apples to oranges though I know.
We just picked up a hunter '96 Hunter 40.5 which is the last gen of Hunter Legends that actually sails well. It has a back stay and a lot of comfort and features. We've done 9-10kn on it in 12-15 wind. Its a bargain and well overlooked boat for what you get for the dollar.
My first boat was a 1976 Hunter 30’. Loved it. Why would you not the featured Hunter on an ocean crossing? Smaller, less capable boats do it all the time.
I am a traditionalist the Hans Christian is my dream boat. 33. or 38. On a side note I am a straight married man, but DAMN you got nice blue eyes! cheers bro!
I am well aware of the "hate" so many sailors have for Hunter Sailboats.. You know I even had a surveyor once, tell me she wouldn't bother to survey a Hunter.. So when you featured a Hunter 410 in your "$80,000 Sailboats" episode I expected the backhanded compliments you offered the boat.. And while they are not as nice as a Swan or an Oyster, they are on par with the Beneteau, Jeaneaus, Catalinas and many other of the so-called production boats.. But then approximately 13:06 into the video, you commented: "And yes, it is a Hunter. And I would never intend to cross an ocean on this boat" Let's not forget the Hunter is CE Class A certified which means: "CE CLASS A yachts are designed for large sea voyages (everywhere), in which wind force may exceed 8 on the scale of BEAUFORT and waves can also exceed a significant height of 4 meters. These yachts are designed largely to be self-sufficient in this rather hostile environment." And by the way.. You may want to take a look at the UA-cam Channel "Jibsea".. It is published by a young couple (under 30 or so) with only a year or two of sailing experience.. They just crossed the over from the Caribbean over to Ireland in a Hunter 42.. And yes, they did run into some pretty heavy seas.. So thanks for your, otherwise informative series of videos.. flk P.S. And don't think Hunters are only good as floating "condos".. Here in Galveston Bay, they often cross the finish line first.. flk k
Thank you for making this great series! I do wish the westsails were a bit more attractive. Has anyone sailed on a Dragonfly 1200. Love the way it looks, though way, way out of our budget.
We have a '97 hunter 430. Fast, shoal draft, very comfortable, well equipped, no problems other than normal aging. I can't understand why people put hunters down. I expect it's the owner that needs help, not the boat.
@@johncolley6225 They are not THAT slow. A 32 won the Transpac a decade or two ago, and I've sailed aboard the 42' and it is a surprisingly fast boat for a cruiser; faster than the rest of us that buddy sailed with it.
So, about that Hunter (hated by so many!)... she WILL circumnavigate the planet- if properly outfitted, of course- albeit not downwind with the main! However, a massive code 0, or other properly designed downwind sail and will create a faster downwind cruiser with comfort & width. Anything Hunter built over 36' is a CE: A rated vessel from design to execution. I want the H2Oline, but- really want to keep it under 40' LOA. But, a nice (under 20 year old) H 41DS has my name all over it. I really like the pullman fore cabin & well designed wet head in the bow. And the aft stateroom can actually have airflow! Bonus! Yet, I can't seem to find one in that elusive $80k window ('cuz, you know there's a 30K refit right behind it for proper passage making.)
Hi Tim, you're doing a great job with this series, but I think it's time you cover hulls and keels, and then cutter, sloops and ketches. You've branched out into so many boats, it's getting hard to know "what flavor you want". I think you should get into the actual designs. I bought a Nauticat 44 largely due to it's "comfort performance" in heavy seas and the fact that I don't want to just bomb around the Bahamas.
Hiya guy, at some point in the future, could you elaborate why a Hunter 41 is not a boat to cross an ocean with. I see many videos about people crossing oceans on vessels much smaller.
Yea can do :) In a nutshell the question is, was the boat built to withstand the ocean? Ie. is it "blue water". It's not about size. It's about construction. And the Hunter just wasn't.
He has an episode on $20k boats (I think ep 185) I would utilize that list and try and negotiate down based on condition, age, equipment that would need to be done
$10k < have been sitting on the hard for the past 20 years, baking in the sun or freezing in the cold. In other words, the hulls are shot as even fiberglass badly degrades in those conditions. Don't need a vid, just need to wander over to a local yard to see if any derelict repos are available. Lol
@@larkangel6593 I think what skipper hoy is asking for is a list of the better or best boats in that price range so he doesn’t have to look at too many boats and can be fairly confident that the builder built boats that last and not waste time on the boats with poor quality manufacturing issues, some builders even in the same price point are better than others
@@larkangel6593 hey I agree but that’s not what he asked for, so I suggested to go to the 20k boat vid which ladyk makes several suggestions for boats in that price range that in his opinion are good boats then try and negotiate down, I try to make helpful suggestions in good faith and not piss all over someone who is asking for help
I would like to see one of your videos looking at the local boats built here in Maine. You know Able, Lyman-Morse, Ocean Cruising, Jarvis Newman, Brooklin Boatyard, Hodgdon Yachts, Sabre, Morris and Hinckley. OK Hodgdon may be a bit too high end.
Does anyone have any ideas how to lighten the dark wood of the older boats? They are so dark and dingy and if it weren’t for that dark depressing wood I would love so many more boats but I just can’t deal with it. Unfortunately the newer more expensive boats have the colour I can live with. Painting it seems like a nightmare. Anyone?
Yes! unfortunately it takes a LOT of elbow grease, sanding with progressively finer grits. then applying a couple of coats of light varnish to give you a real honey finish. It truly is a labor of love!
Another great video in this series. I’m looking forward to next week’s video. Have you checked into getting a super thanks for those of us that can’t commit to be a patron but want to chip in a few bucks to help you out? 🇨🇦🍻
Hey. I can but UA-cam takes the largest portion of those and I'm not sure how to use them. If you go to ladyksailing dot com there is a donate button to PayPal a couple of bucks as a one time :)
@@LadyKSailing I hope it comes through. I have had bad experiences with PayPal but to help you out I will do it. Thanks for everything that you do to bring us these videos every week 👏🍻
If you want to see a beautiful Hans Christian check out Sailing Fair Isle. It would be a tough choice between the HC and the Out Island. Where can I sign up for the Sailing Lady K Sailing School? ;)
Hey, Hey Lady K. What's Up from Captn. Ray. It's Time for ME to get back on board. I saw a few of your videos with increasing price points. My list of must haves are Pretty predictable. I am usually a Solo Sailor.40' ^, Center cockpit, inmast furling, blue water beauty. $50-75...? Shallow drafted if possible. I restored a 26' wooden cutter when I was Young and SILLY. No interest in Sanding and sealing nowadays. I can shop between R.I. to South Florida. Preferably south. I will be in Jupiter late Oct.-early Nov. Any advice, suggestions would be Well Appreciated... My last Yatch was donated to Children's Cancer when I Moved to PHOENIX...? For a "Long Island Sailor", I've Suffered Long Enough! Time to get back offshore...
Wonder why you chose the Hunter 41 instead of the 42 Passage instead, probably the gold standard in Hunters in that size and era. Also didn't need a snarky comment about not taking a Hunter across the ocean, as if they are incapable of that despite hunters of all sizes and ages having circumnavigations over and over and over again as well as any other boats at cost.
I’ve joined the Hunter Haters Club. Bought a Hunter ‘335; day 1 under sail, completely dismasted. Please get a full inspection/appraisal prior to any purchase
When are you going to start cruising again.These reviews are ok,but when is the action going to start? I appreciate your reviews on theses boats but if this is what you're doing moving forward,I will happily unsubscribe.
Honestly, I need a couple years. Life changes and so does the plan. It hurts me everyday to be on land but alas, I love you guys and sailboats too much to stop the videos. I still sail at least twice a week and will make a race video soon. Hope to see you back when the cruising starts again. Fair winds.
These videos are such a great reference to go back to which I’ve been doing. It should be the bible for anyone thinking of which boat to buy to look at first
Thank you .
Good stuff,, HC is beautiful boat, I have a baby HC,, A 37 ft Tayana Pilot house, and I simply love it. Offshore she comes into her own, great motion, solid and pretty to look at, yes more teak then a forest, but it adds to the charm. Enjoy your videos, lots of good info, thank you. Cheers. Pops Fl.
My man! just wanted to tell you: i bought a sailboat! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yayyyyyy!!!!!!
I did as well, and I know you've done Hans Christian boats, you haven't done the HCC model. Very curious as to what your take is on the Hans Christian Christina 43.
BTW love your channel
Me too! Mine just went in the water on saturday and first sail was Sunday! Congrats, it's a great feeling.
@@CommentRedacted you are blessed! Congrats!
B.O.A.T. Bring on another thousand. A hole in the water where you throw money. lol jk congratulations. Money can’t buy happiness, but it can buy you a boat and sail you pretty close. Endless hours of boredom interrupted by moments of sheer terror. Former Hans Christian owner here and I wouldn’t want any other.
Loving your videos and currently shopping for my first boat! However, I can't decide if you're actually helping, as all you've really done is make me fall in love with every boat and introduce me to ones I haven't even heard about or considered! All jokes aside, thanks for all your knowledge you're so happy to share!
thanks for watching!
I really appreciate these price point videos. They are different from other sailing channels and I love your review style. Keep it up!
At $80k I think the answer is still production boat. Just newer. I have a '05 Hunter 41DS. Everything on the boat is brand name. Hard to beat at the price-point.
Do the older boats mentioned present insurance problems? By that, I mean actually being able to get any, lol!!
Really like your channel. Like your honesty. Good on you brother!
Having started on my dad's Catalina 36, then being aboard larger hunters and Catalinas while out cruising now on my own HC33 I would take my "tiny" HC33 all day long. It has so much more storage space, better/safer layout for passage making, room for equipment, better build quality and motion...yeah the wood sucks to keep up with, but for long term cruising I'll take it all day long. Having been back and sailing my dad's Catalina this summer, while it's fun for how easily it accelerates, I really don't care for the motion, even just on Lake Huron, than I do my HC33 on the ocean. Apples to oranges though I know.
Coming from the uk 🇬🇧 you’ve showed me boats I never knew
Nice selection of boats. .. Cheers to you. ..
There is a boat for everyone and for any cruising plan, there are very few bad boats but plenty of bad owners.
Cool SV Delos shirt, and I love Hunters, sailed many in my day
We just picked up a hunter '96 Hunter 40.5 which is the last gen of Hunter Legends that actually sails well. It has a back stay and a lot of comfort and features. We've done 9-10kn on it in 12-15 wind. Its a bargain and well overlooked boat for what you get for the dollar.
I've been drooling over the legend 37 at our club. I keep poking him about it. Someday when I have the cash :)
I love this series. GREAT VIDEOS!!
"More wood than the rain forest"! 😅 love that HCA except for the transom. I'm too old I guess...
Love your content. Thank you.
Please a part 2!
Nice Delos tee!❤
Great series! Thanks for making all the shows!
Love these episodes
What a FABULOUS series‼️ 😍⛵🌊
Thanks for sharing. Good stuff. :D
My first boat was a 1976 Hunter 30’. Loved it.
Why would you not the featured Hunter on an ocean crossing? Smaller, less capable boats do it all the time.
This is the video I've been waiting for!!! Haven't watched it yet, but I love the SV Delos shirt!!
Port lights are the difference between hanging out in your garage and actually still being on the water when you're inside the cabin.
Yeah Id like one of those boats. Great video.
Hello sailor, nice shirt
Been planning on getting a HC for about 15 years....next year I pull the trigger.
I am an old hunter owner, and I can say that there’s a reason that they’re cheaper, structurally, electrically, and rigging…
Hunteriness. lol. Love it.
I enjoy the content and love the shirt
at what $ level/boat size does it go from camping to living in a small apartment?
I am a traditionalist the Hans Christian is my dream boat. 33. or 38. On a side note I am a straight married man, but DAMN you got nice blue eyes! cheers bro!
Hahahaa thanks bro!!!
well done sweet spot on price
Howdy!
Hey there!
Great vids keep it up. Love the hunters BTY
I am well aware of the "hate" so many sailors have for Hunter Sailboats.. You know I even had a surveyor once, tell me she wouldn't bother to survey a Hunter..
So when you featured a Hunter 410 in your "$80,000 Sailboats" episode I expected the backhanded compliments you offered the boat.. And while they are not as nice as a Swan or an Oyster, they are on par with the Beneteau, Jeaneaus, Catalinas and many other of the so-called production boats..
But then approximately 13:06 into the video, you commented:
"And yes, it is a Hunter. And I would never intend to cross an ocean on this boat"
Let's not forget the Hunter is CE Class A certified which means:
"CE CLASS A yachts are designed for large sea voyages (everywhere), in which wind force may exceed 8 on the scale of BEAUFORT and waves can also exceed a significant height of 4 meters. These yachts are designed largely to be self-sufficient in this rather hostile environment."
And by the way.. You may want to take a look at the UA-cam Channel "Jibsea".. It is published by a young couple (under 30 or so) with only a year or two of sailing experience.. They just crossed the over from the Caribbean over to Ireland in a Hunter 42.. And yes, they did run into some pretty heavy seas..
So thanks for your, otherwise informative series of videos.. flk
P.S. And don't think Hunters are only good as floating "condos".. Here in Galveston Bay, they often cross the finish line first..
flk k
Do you have any videos on the precision cabin series like the p165, p18, p21, p23, or the p28
Thank you for making this great series! I do wish the westsails were a bit more attractive. Has anyone sailed on a Dragonfly 1200. Love the way it looks, though way, way out of our budget.
HC 38MK V is my dream boat.. has been for 20 years
I love your shirt bro😎 I wonder if Brian will notice ✌
He's outta my league anyway 😂😂 😭
We have a '97 hunter 430. Fast, shoal draft, very comfortable, well equipped, no problems other than normal aging. I can't understand why people put hunters down. I expect it's the owner that needs help, not the boat.
When I talk to the old 40 year plus world sailor a friend of mine who got me into ceiling the boat he recommends is a West sale
Walter Cronkite owned a Westsail 42 that my Dad finished out for him.
He would say "Westsailors don't call the Coast Guard".
Ah, the dependable WetSnail! very heavily built, they can take a lot more that you can! But notoriously slow, great comfortable cruisers!
@@johncolley6225 They are not THAT slow. A 32 won the Transpac a decade or two ago, and I've sailed aboard the 42' and it is a surprisingly fast boat for a cruiser; faster than the rest of us that buddy sailed with it.
What about a Formosa/Tiger..wuts your thoughts for a cruising liveabord?
So, about that Hunter (hated by so many!)... she WILL circumnavigate the planet- if properly outfitted, of course- albeit not downwind with the main! However, a massive code 0, or other properly designed downwind sail and will create a faster downwind cruiser with comfort & width. Anything Hunter built over 36' is a CE: A rated vessel from design to execution. I want the H2Oline, but- really want to keep it under 40' LOA. But, a nice (under 20 year old) H 41DS has my name all over it. I really like the pullman fore cabin & well designed wet head in the bow. And the aft stateroom can actually have airflow! Bonus! Yet, I can't seem to find one in that elusive $80k window ('cuz, you know there's a 30K refit right behind it for proper passage making.)
You may have covered this before, but do you also talk about multihulls and their pros and cons?
You're getting closer to my Hunter 420 (2004). I can't wait to see if I have a good deal.
Will you be coming back to Florida this winter?
Can you make a video on the Gemini 35 Legacy!!!!! We are interested on getting one but nothing alot out there about it.
Would love to see on Delos :)
Hi Tim, you're doing a great job with this series, but I think it's time you cover hulls and keels, and then cutter, sloops and ketches. You've branched out into so many boats, it's getting hard to know "what flavor you want". I think you should get into the actual designs. I bought a Nauticat 44 largely due to it's "comfort performance" in heavy seas and the fact that I don't want to just bomb around the Bahamas.
Do deliveries!!!
Hiya guy, at some point in the future, could you elaborate why a Hunter 41 is not a boat to cross an ocean with. I see many videos about people crossing oceans on vessels much smaller.
Yea can do :) In a nutshell the question is, was the boat built to withstand the ocean? Ie. is it "blue water". It's not about size. It's about construction. And the Hunter just wasn't.
Hey what about under 10k there are many DIYers that would benefit from what to look for… lol.
He has an episode on $20k boats (I think ep 185) I would utilize that list and try and negotiate down based on condition, age, equipment that would need to be done
$10k < have been sitting on the hard for the past 20 years, baking in the sun or freezing in the cold.
In other words, the hulls are shot as even fiberglass badly degrades in those conditions.
Don't need a vid, just need to wander over to a local yard to see if any derelict repos are available. Lol
@@larkangel6593 I think what skipper hoy is asking for is a list of the better or best boats in that price range so he doesn’t have to look at too many boats and can be fairly confident that the builder built boats that last and not waste time on the boats with poor quality manufacturing issues, some builders even in the same price point are better than others
@@nobodyhome8637 there are no good 28'+ boats in that range
That's what I meant by derelict repo sales
In other words, land fill candidates
@@larkangel6593 hey I agree but that’s not what he asked for, so I suggested to go to the 20k boat vid which ladyk makes several suggestions for boats in that price range that in his opinion are good boats then try and negotiate down, I try to make helpful suggestions in good faith and not piss all over someone who is asking for help
Hi, were you arond Kingston today? There was a call on the radio from Lady K . I almost pick it up and asked if it was you 😄
Haha no wasn't me sadly
Hey! What do you think of Malö and Hallberg-rassy boats? Two of my favorite brands
If your sailing area has the depth needed for their deep keels either is an excellent choice.
I'm a boat broker .... Ever since I've owned my boat I've never been broker.
Hahahahahaha 🤪😂😂😂😂😂 I love it!!!!
I would like to see one of your videos looking at the local boats built here in Maine. You know Able, Lyman-Morse, Ocean Cruising, Jarvis Newman, Brooklin Boatyard, Hodgdon Yachts, Sabre, Morris and Hinckley. OK Hodgdon may be a bit too high end.
Okay but I'm crashing at your place 🤪
@@LadyKSailing Actually you could limit yourself to Hinckley, Sabre and Morris. There are tons of them here.
Does anyone have any ideas how to lighten the dark wood of the older boats? They are so dark and dingy and if it weren’t for that dark depressing wood I would love so many more boats but I just can’t deal with it. Unfortunately the newer more expensive boats have the colour I can live with. Painting it seems like a nightmare. Anyone?
Yes! unfortunately it takes a LOT of elbow grease, sanding with progressively finer grits. then applying a couple of coats of light varnish to give you a real honey finish. It truly is a labor of love!
Another great video in this series. I’m looking forward to next week’s video. Have you checked into getting a super thanks for those of us that can’t commit to be a patron but want to chip in a few bucks to help you out? 🇨🇦🍻
Hey. I can but UA-cam takes the largest portion of those and I'm not sure how to use them. If you go to ladyksailing dot com there is a donate button to PayPal a couple of bucks as a one time :)
@@LadyKSailing I hope it comes through. I have had bad experiences with PayPal but to help you out I will do it. Thanks for everything that you do to bring us these videos every week 👏🍻
@@LadyKSailing I’m glad I kept checking PayPal because the first one didn’t go through for some reason. Hopefully you get this one🍻
If you want to see a beautiful Hans Christian check out Sailing Fair Isle. It would be a tough choice between the HC and the Out Island. Where can I sign up for the Sailing Lady K Sailing School? ;)
Drop me a line 🤪
Hey, Hey Lady K. What's Up from Captn. Ray. It's Time for ME to get back on board. I saw a few of your videos with increasing price points. My list of must haves are Pretty predictable. I am usually a Solo Sailor.40' ^, Center cockpit, inmast furling, blue water beauty. $50-75...? Shallow drafted if possible. I restored a 26' wooden cutter when I was Young and SILLY. No interest in Sanding and sealing nowadays. I can shop between R.I. to South Florida. Preferably south. I will be in Jupiter late Oct.-early Nov. Any advice, suggestions would be Well Appreciated... My last Yatch was donated to Children's Cancer when I Moved to PHOENIX...? For a "Long Island Sailor", I've Suffered Long Enough! Time to get back offshore...
First 🤣
Hey! That's not fair! Lol
BENETEAU is trash
Love the show. My wife won't sail.
A 2005 Beneteau 473 with 2 electric winches for $85000 is a better choice
davos Tshirt, really? 🤣🤣🤣
We all have hero's :)
Halberg Rassey?
He did a video just on HR a year ago
@@michynature Must be more the 80K!
Wonder why you chose the Hunter 41 instead of the 42 Passage instead, probably the gold standard in Hunters in that size and era. Also didn't need a snarky comment about not taking a Hunter across the ocean, as if they are incapable of that despite hunters of all sizes and ages having circumnavigations over and over and over again as well as any other boats at cost.
Why wouldn't you cross an ocean with the Hunter?
Apparently you’ve never been in a serious sustained storm……
Second
I’ve joined the Hunter Haters Club. Bought a Hunter ‘335; day 1 under sail, completely dismasted. Please get a full inspection/appraisal prior to any purchase
When are you going to start cruising again.These reviews are ok,but when is the action going to start? I appreciate your reviews on theses boats but if this is what you're doing moving forward,I will happily unsubscribe.
Honestly, I need a couple years. Life changes and so does the plan. It hurts me everyday to be on land but alas, I love you guys and sailboats too much to stop the videos. I still sail at least twice a week and will make a race video soon. Hope to see you back when the cruising starts again. Fair winds.
@@LadyKSailing I completely understand and will continue to subscribe and watch.
Thanks