Love your videos, I don’t mind longer ones because the information you share is well researched and thought out, you don’t repeat points and stay on topic.
You’re starting to sway me with the beneteau’s bang for your buck aspect. Still not sure about those spade rudders. With the shallow areas we plan on cruising. Thank you for all the great videos!
Tim, you're doing fine with the Beneteau stuff. I think if you 'have a plan' (Atlantic crossing, Bahamas, circumnavigate...) you can get your dream 'production' boat with all the tasty fixings- starting @ 60-70k. Now, it may not be new, but- they tend to be well owned because no one is putting a H20 maker in a unused vessel. Also, they've typically been rerigged (standing/running), have an engine in good running order w/ known issues addressed by spares, etc... Dinghy davits, solar arch, maybe LiFePO4 batteries, working doors & terlets- I know, I know- too much to ask!!! But, it all starts at over 50k, methinks generally.
My issue with pre 2000 (ish) vessels is the difference between LOA vs LWL. For example, I can't see paying a 38ft price for 31 feet of living space or a 41ft price for 35 feet of living space. The newer 2006+ sailboats are within 5 ft or less and can be had for the same price point... js 👍😎
I swear this man could readout my shopping list... in French and I'd still watch. Better than my list of goodies would be a newbies training list. I'm unlikely to ever own one of these beauties but qualified crewing is a serious option!
Hey Tim, I love these videos. Very informative. I was looking at a Catalina Morgan 381and it was in the $60k price point, but it was already under contract and now off the market. BUT, the broker suggested that I take a look at a boat I've never heard of before...a Trintella 42. Yeah, it's a more expensive boat, but I can't find many stories, reviews, or anything about this boat. It seems like a passage making boat, and there's a Trintella Friends Association with a lot of technical information bulletins, but I'd really like an opinion on this brand if it's something you'd like to discuss. Now I've gotta run off to my ASA 103/104 course. Happy sailing!
My Beneteau First 38 went around the World not once but twice, so don't tell me Beneteaus are junk. I bounced off alot of coral and rocks with mine and kept on going once I dived down there and found everything ok to continue. Sabres are also affordable and safe to blue water cruise.
Dude how about the Irwin 38 CC MKII? Mine is a Skeg rudder, shoal draft, 2 heads great aft cabin, 50hp perkins large water and diesel tanks.... under 60k. I would live to see this in your budget videos. Maybe it still will be. Thanks for the videos
Hi Tim. Can't wait for the "all you need to know" on Cheoy Lees. Very interesting history there with how CL took some artistic freedom from the American designers and putting the "copy" in copyrights ;)
I love these videos. I’m looking to cruise in a couple years and I was looking for big heavy expensive boats. But now I’m leaning more toward the “go small, go simple, go now” approach and I’m looking more at boats just under 40’. The Pearson 39-2 is at the top of my list.
Congrats on not botching a green screen -- something that's very easy to do. Seriously, that's a triumph for a first go at it. Didn't detract from the content at all, and looking forward to seeing what you do with it. Heavy side down? Reminds me of my motorbike days -- keep the shiny side up 😉
Fantastic! I am really enjoying your channels. Keep up the great work..and don't worry about your background, I thing we all can handle a little change and/or growing pains!
If a 30 year old Bene has made it this far there is nothing to say it won't go for another 30 years. If it's the boat you like at a price you like just buy the damn thing.
Tim, you always produce fare attitude episodes on multi subjects and price point concerning sailings. I have to say I took ASA sailing lesson 101, 103 & 104 this pass summer in St Augustine. Before hand I had watched 1,000s of videos listened to 500 or more sailing podcast episodes as well as read 24 books of sailing. Podcast and UA-cam videos were practically free. Books i have invested around 300.00 in them. The courses cost me 2,600.00 for five days straight. The 101 dingy course the first day was not worth the money based on what I already learned and knew about sailing, Courses 103 was much better on the second day as we moved to a 34' boat and their was some wind. on the same boat for the next two days wind varied. The 5th we moved up to a 44' boat which was much better but there was vary little breeze to no wind. I was largely disappointed having to pay that much for 3 hrs a day sailing wind or not wind. I think scheduling with John Kretschmer would have been a far better and practical experience for the money taking me out for 3-4 days living on his boat and learning the whole time in the ocean.
Love the series and haven't missed and episode since I subscribed early last year.. Not a fan of this background, but i can live with it. Just my opinion. But, the pics are good when you put them up over your shoulder.
Guess I can't be mad the Freedom's never make these lists. Keeping them nicely under rated and cheap. But 60k gets you a nice 39 or a cheap 44. With carbon fiber masts that never need any stays replaced.
Hi, not to change the subject... im looking(found) a 1974 Mirage 24 with trailer, new sails with 135% furling, new awlgrip... very very cheap..I watched your informative video on mirage and that's what peeked my interest in the boat.... anything I should know about these little demons? or look out for.. like keel bolts failing, or rudder posts or mast steps or just anything that did not work correctly on the boats.. thanks Preston .. mooring boat in Old Lyme CT...for day/weekend sailing/racing... I also have a Holder 20 with trailer, 3,5hp, 8 sails, with a ton of extras if anybody is looking...
If you want to make the brokerage, we could import used sailboats to Brazil. Until recently, it was not allowed. You've just shown many options absolutelly unavailable for us.
I think perhaps I'm a bit more performance focused but I'm wondering why no mention of a J Boat yet. There is a '89 J40 on the market now for $49.5k that may not have all of the luxuries you like to highlight, but you know it's going to be a great sailor. There's also what appears to be a nice J37 for $59K that looks ready to sail away. The 40 would require a bit of "sorting". Love the series though. Thanks for the creativity that you put into it!
Hey hey. Don't get me wrong I love a j. But I try to keep it short and only talk about the boats most available at the time. Sadly it does leave a lot out.
the older the boat the higher the cost of up keep. refits aren't cheap and often exceed the price the boat is worth. I mean, if your stubborn and you just HAVE to have your exact boat. and you don't mind the cost or work needed. then yeah, it could be worth it. but if you are like me and don't want to spend time exploring instead of being in a day dock for months or years repairing a boat. then get a newer boat 20 years or younger. the beneteaus are top of the line and staying under 40 foot keeps you from paying 3 or 5 times the price for your boat to be docked. going over 40 foot is for people who have a lot of people aboard or they are ok with spending more. if someone is trying to stay under 60k you would assume they are trying to stay on a budget.. so telling them to get something over 40 foot is a disservice to them.
How high do you plan to go with this series? I like your insight and knowledge. When I search Yacht world, I set my price limit at $200k, not because I want to spend that much, but it gives me a better range of boats to choose from. Length 35-45. What I really like is your commentary on the different brands. I know little to nothing about some of them. Cheoy Lee, I did know! Class!
I am really looking forward to what you suggest when we're coming to the $100K range. I need a family boat 45-50 ft that can sail the world in comfort, safety and style....you think it's possible??!!! Or am I expecting too much?
I want to hear about the Tartan. I nearly bought a Tartan 10 when we had our beach house in California. We are now on a ranch in Idaho. I am an American, married to a Canadian with a Canadian son. I want a American of Canadian built boutique, vintage sale boat which I/we can live aboard come retirement. My pageants were avid sailers off the coast of California and so was my wife on Lake Ontario. What small ship yard, full keel, center cabin, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s or 80’s boat can you recommend. I like glass, we both like wood. We would be sailing Lake Ontario, to the Caribbean in it so shallow draft, full keel. I’m eyeing Bermuda 40’s
Just sold my Oceanis 38 which I had in charter in key west. I bought a house on the water just south of st Pete / Sarasota and I’m looking for a 40’er with a nice master and a shallow draft. I have no fixed bridges and even if I get the boat in charter I’d love to be able to bring her behind my house to my dock and work in her here once in a while. I love the Oceanis 45 but 5.75’ is as shallow as she gets.. The new jenneau 410 has a perfect swing keel option but I can’t wait two years … What would you recommend?
If I may, can I ask about your thoughts on the Harden Voyager or its sister the Sea Wolf these were also built in Tiawan. Few years ago I saw some go for 40K and some in the 60K range.
good morning love the vids im joe im 54 years old i see you are at 60k us i am looking in Australia were i live and for less then 100k to 150k there is not much on the market to sail blue water do you think it is worth looking at buying from another country and sailing it back as the boats you are showing at this price are eazy double or triple the price here and can you travel blue water on a alder 50 or 60 foot racing sail boat (eg tp52) or similar i notice you have not had any of them as your suggestions' thank you for the time you give to us so we can enjoy your knowledge
B 1st at 43 feet is a bigger boat and wow all that interior Perhaps the strength is its weakness for me as That a lot of maintenence Cleaning Sails etc etc but yes Wow factor= 9!!! For me only would like dialogue on add ons Radar Gps Auto pilot etc Lines Sails All these r the “value added” or costs added to used
Epic. Okay, I know you’re busy and this is why I’m asking: can you help me find my next boat? $150k budget, need bw cruiser, single handed often, slip is on Kauai and Oahu (where I live) but want to sail most of the year. Empty nest single dad, experienced racing hobie cats & J24s. Looking for under 45’.
Ooooo interesting. Actually this next episode is on $110k so maybe it'll help? Last week was $100k. Depends what you want. A full keel ocean crosser or more of a floating condo. Jump on our discord if you want to chat directly. Or Patreon, or Facebook. Happy to help.
70's 80's 90's? Personally, too old for what I've looked at. How do you know, how can I tell how old those images are? They could be 10+ years old and not even look that good anymore. Is there a way to date the pics? I've decided to put a 20-year age limit on anything I'd consider buying + just has to have a swim platform / scoop.
Btw, Cheoy Lee's don't hail from Taiwan, but rather Hong Kong, might not be too much in it, but at the time Honkers was administrated by the Brits.
dont care about background , context is BRILIANT !!!
It's always great to see ya! Thanks!
You too!
We’re headin’ to $100k boys! Yeehaw!
This is what IMO is the best sailboat buying series I have seen on UA-cam. Hats off to you for coming up with this for us ✌️🍻
Thank you!!
@@LadyKSailing my pleasure
The Beneteau 435 is awesome. I am now thinking bigger boat.
This is an incredible series of videos. Thank you
Love your videos, I don’t mind longer ones because the information you share is well researched and thought out, you don’t repeat points and stay on topic.
I love this series of breaking down boats at various price points.
You’re starting to sway me with the beneteau’s bang for your buck aspect. Still not sure about those spade rudders. With the shallow areas we plan on cruising. Thank you for all the great videos!
Beneteau and Catalina knocked it out of the park oh if you want to go wooden find a Concordia.
loving these videos coming based on price point! hope they keep coming , great job. cheers
I will wait and watch until 100.000 dollar boats.I am fan of 40 feet cats but they do cost a lot.I may buy plans and start building my own.
I've looked at that particular Cheoy Lee. Let's just say, the pictures make it look a LOT better than the actual condition.
It's ok to go beyond 20 mins with these, it's probably better from an algorithm perspective
I wish it were. Sadly as people stop halfway through it hurts things. I'd love to make longer format videos
This guy's hilarious! Stripey ceiling to keep the kids entertained!😆
Tim, you're doing fine with the Beneteau stuff. I think if you 'have a plan' (Atlantic crossing, Bahamas, circumnavigate...) you can get your dream 'production' boat with all the tasty fixings- starting @ 60-70k. Now, it may not be new, but- they tend to be well owned because no one is putting a H20 maker in a unused vessel. Also, they've typically been rerigged (standing/running), have an engine in good running order w/ known issues addressed by spares, etc... Dinghy davits, solar arch, maybe LiFePO4 batteries, working doors & terlets- I know, I know- too much to ask!!! But, it all starts at over 50k, methinks generally.
These are great videos Tim! Thanks a lot! I think this series will be valuable to a lot of people for decades to come.
My issue with pre 2000 (ish) vessels is the difference between LOA vs LWL. For example, I can't see paying a 38ft price for 31 feet of living space or a 41ft price for 35 feet of living space. The newer 2006+ sailboats are within 5 ft or less and can be had for the same price point... js 👍😎
Chasing Latitudes? 😜
@@RobertMatichak Chasing Latitudes---has schooled!!!!!! That man Chris seems real .
Great point, thanx dude.
A traditional bow his its benefits.
@@saltysassy958 What would those be? I'm new to the sailing world and I'm collecting information.
I swear this man could readout my shopping list... in French and I'd still watch. Better than my list of goodies would be a newbies training list. I'm unlikely to ever own one of these beauties but qualified crewing is a serious option!
That Choey Lee is still for sale and now $42K.
Hey Tim, I love these videos. Very informative. I was looking at a Catalina Morgan 381and it was in the $60k price point, but it was already under contract and now off the market. BUT, the broker suggested that I take a look at a boat I've never heard of before...a Trintella 42. Yeah, it's a more expensive boat, but I can't find many stories, reviews, or anything about this boat. It seems like a passage making boat, and there's a Trintella Friends Association with a lot of technical information bulletins, but I'd really like an opinion on this brand if it's something you'd like to discuss. Now I've gotta run off to my ASA 103/104 course. Happy sailing!
My Beneteau First 38 went around the World not once but twice, so don't tell me Beneteaus are junk. I bounced off alot of coral and rocks with mine and kept on going once I dived down there and found everything ok to continue. Sabres are also affordable and safe to blue water cruise.
What you said about the cheoy lee was very helpful thank you.
Thank u for mentioning Choeylee sailboats
Dude how about the Irwin 38 CC MKII? Mine is a Skeg rudder, shoal draft, 2 heads great aft cabin, 50hp perkins large water and diesel tanks.... under 60k. I would live to see this in your budget videos. Maybe it still will be. Thanks for the videos
Really enjoying this series, thank you for making them!
Dude the mattress topper 😂 comments got me rolling
Hi Tim. Can't wait for the "all you need to know" on Cheoy Lees. Very interesting history there with how CL took some artistic freedom from the American designers and putting the "copy" in copyrights ;)
I love these videos.
I’m looking to cruise in a couple years and I was looking for big heavy expensive boats. But now I’m leaning more toward the “go small, go simple, go now” approach and I’m looking more at boats just under 40’. The Pearson 39-2 is at the top of my list.
Great series, Tim. Thanks for all the hard work you put in.
Very very valid point about owners associations they are worth everything I have an Albin Vega and The Association is incredible
Fun to watch, always well done and informative. Thanks Tim, I really enjoy learning from your sharing.
Congrats on not botching a green screen -- something that's very easy to do. Seriously, that's a triumph for a first go at it. Didn't detract from the content at all, and looking forward to seeing what you do with it.
Heavy side down? Reminds me of my motorbike days -- keep the shiny side up 😉
Morgan Out Island 415. Said. Done. Drop the Mic.
Amazing series, thank you!
Fantastic! I am really enjoying your channels. Keep up the great work..and don't worry about your background, I thing we all can handle a little change and/or growing pains!
So informative and hilarious...your narration is awesome!!
Thanks Tim! Well done and worthwhile.
Hey thanks for this - dig your perspective.
Love this video series, keep them coming please.
Another informative episode. Thank you
I have MAD-LOVE for Taiwaneese Monstrosities.
Heavily carved teak doors ?
Sign me up !!
Excellent, informative and entertaining 👏 👍
If a 30 year old Bene has made it this far there is nothing to say it won't go for another 30 years.
If it's the boat you like at a price you like just buy the damn thing.
Great video. Thanks
Need a $100k episode.
Love this series! Keep it going!
Thank you great info
Why don't you take a look at the Beneteau Idylle 11.50? It was made fron the hull of the First 38, but modified to be a 2 rooms cruiser.
Tim, you always produce fare attitude episodes on multi subjects and price point concerning sailings. I have to say I took ASA sailing lesson 101, 103 & 104 this pass summer in St Augustine. Before hand I had watched 1,000s of videos listened to 500 or more sailing podcast episodes as well as read 24 books of sailing. Podcast and UA-cam videos were practically free. Books i have invested around 300.00 in them. The courses cost me 2,600.00 for five days straight. The 101 dingy course the first day was not worth the money based on what I already learned and knew about sailing, Courses 103 was much better on the second day as we moved to a 34' boat and their was some wind. on the same boat for the next two days wind varied. The 5th we moved up to a 44' boat which was much better but there was vary little breeze to no wind. I was largely disappointed having to pay that much for 3 hrs a day sailing wind or not wind. I think scheduling with John Kretschmer would have been a far better and practical experience for the money taking me out for 3-4 days living on his boat and learning the whole time in the ocean.
Love the series and haven't missed and episode since I subscribed early last year.. Not a fan of this background, but i can live with it. Just my opinion. But, the pics are good when you put them up over your shoulder.
Cheers to you.
The bene first is awesome boat
Getting closer to our budget every week
Endeavor!
Guess I can't be mad the Freedom's never make these lists. Keeping them nicely under rated and cheap. But 60k gets you a nice 39 or a cheap 44. With carbon fiber masts that never need any stays replaced.
G8 channel! Good info for a future buyer👍
That Catalina is nice.
Hi, not to change the subject... im looking(found) a 1974 Mirage 24 with trailer, new sails with 135% furling, new awlgrip... very very cheap..I watched your informative video on mirage and that's what peeked my interest in the boat.... anything I should know about these little demons? or look out for.. like keel bolts failing, or rudder posts or mast steps or just anything that did not work correctly on the boats.. thanks Preston .. mooring boat in Old Lyme CT...for day/weekend sailing/racing... I also have a Holder 20 with trailer, 3,5hp, 8 sails, with a ton of extras if anybody is looking...
If you want to make the brokerage, we could import used sailboats to Brazil. Until recently, it was not allowed. You've just shown many options absolutelly unavailable for us.
At $60, Whitby 42 is at the top of my list.
I like your site,but I would like to see more ocean cruising boats. I hope your heading that way.
I think perhaps I'm a bit more performance focused but I'm wondering why no mention of a J Boat yet. There is a '89 J40 on the market now for $49.5k that may not have all of the luxuries you like to highlight, but you know it's going to be a great sailor. There's also what appears to be a nice J37 for $59K that looks ready to sail away. The 40 would require a bit of "sorting". Love the series though. Thanks for the creativity that you put into it!
Hey hey. Don't get me wrong I love a j. But I try to keep it short and only talk about the boats most available at the time. Sadly it does leave a lot out.
Oh man I was hoping you would continue the series. I will be looking to tip you.
Hey, great video as always 🙂👍 in two weeks I fly to the Mediterranean to look at a first 38, wish me luck 😃🍻
What do you think of the Sirius line of sailboats? Or have we not reached that price point yet?
looking forward to the 70k
the older the boat the higher the cost of up keep. refits aren't cheap and often exceed the price the boat is worth. I mean, if your stubborn and you just HAVE to have your exact boat. and you don't mind the cost or work needed. then yeah, it could be worth it. but if you are like me and don't want to spend time exploring instead of being in a day dock for months or years repairing a boat. then get a newer boat 20 years or younger. the beneteaus are top of the line and staying under 40 foot keeps you from paying 3 or 5 times the price for your boat to be docked. going over 40 foot is for people who have a lot of people aboard or they are ok with spending more. if someone is trying to stay under 60k you would assume they are trying to stay on a budget.. so telling them to get something over 40 foot is a disservice to them.
Very good ideas. I would love to have a 380 for 60k if in the PNW
😀👍👏👏👏
"CHEOY LEAKY"
How high do you plan to go with this series? I like your insight and knowledge. When I search Yacht world, I set my price limit at $200k, not because I want to spend that much, but it gives me a better range of boats to choose from. Length 35-45. What I really like is your commentary on the different brands. I know little to nothing about some of them. Cheoy Lee, I did know! Class!
I just bought a 1988 Hans Christian Chrisana 43 for $60k
Great video keep up the good work!, Hey if you were to go around the horn "the long way around" what boat would you choose?
A monster with a full keel :)
Insurance companies are starting to shy away from older boats. better to buy something late 90s and up
I am really looking forward to what you suggest when we're coming to the $100K range. I need a family boat 45-50 ft that can sail the world in comfort, safety and style....you think it's possible??!!! Or am I expecting too much?
How are nav stations changing now that everything is on a computer or chart plotter?
I want to hear about the Tartan. I nearly bought a Tartan 10 when we had our beach house in California. We are now on a ranch in Idaho. I am an American, married to a Canadian with a Canadian son. I want a American of Canadian built boutique, vintage sale boat which I/we can live aboard come retirement. My pageants were avid sailers off the coast of California and so was my wife on Lake Ontario. What small ship yard, full keel, center cabin, 50’s, 60’s, 70’s or 80’s boat can you recommend. I like glass, we both like wood. We would be sailing Lake Ontario, to the Caribbean in it so shallow draft, full keel. I’m eyeing Bermuda 40’s
Just sold my Oceanis 38 which I had in charter in key west. I bought a house on the water just south of st Pete / Sarasota and I’m looking for a 40’er with a nice master and a shallow draft. I have no fixed bridges and even if I get the boat in charter I’d love to be able to bring her behind my house to my dock and work in her here once in a while. I love the Oceanis 45 but 5.75’ is as shallow as she gets.. The new jenneau 410 has a perfect swing keel option but I can’t wait two years … What would you recommend?
If I may, can I ask about your thoughts on the Harden Voyager or its sister the Sea Wolf these were also built in Tiawan. Few years ago I saw some go for 40K and some in the 60K range.
good morning love the vids im joe im 54 years old i see you are at 60k us i am looking in Australia were i live and for less then 100k to 150k there is not much on the market to sail blue water do you think it is worth looking at buying from another country and sailing it back as the boats you are showing at this price are eazy double or triple the price here and can you travel blue water on a alder 50 or 60 foot racing sail boat (eg tp52) or similar i notice you have not had any of them as your suggestions'
thank you for the time you give to us so we can enjoy your knowledge
"Without the moldy mattress" on the Beneteau first? Instead you get mouldy wood everywhere! And that mattress looks like it had some water damage too!
🧐
B 1st at 43 feet is a bigger boat and wow all that interior
Perhaps the strength is its weakness for me as
That a lot of maintenence
Cleaning
Sails etc etc but yes
Wow factor= 9!!!
For me only would like dialogue on add ons
Radar
Gps
Auto pilot etc
Lines
Sails
All these r the “value added” or costs added to used
Please advise if the mast is
keel stepped.
You never mention that fact
or ballast material.
Deck stepped masts should
be noted in discription.
How's your feelings towards a formosa 41? I enjoy your video's
finally
Epic. Okay, I know you’re busy and this is why I’m asking: can you help me find my next boat? $150k budget, need bw cruiser, single handed often, slip is on Kauai and Oahu (where I live) but want to sail most of the year. Empty nest single dad, experienced racing hobie cats & J24s. Looking for under 45’.
Ooooo interesting. Actually this next episode is on $110k so maybe it'll help? Last week was $100k. Depends what you want. A full keel ocean crosser or more of a floating condo. Jump on our discord if you want to chat directly. Or Patreon, or Facebook. Happy to help.
Tartan 37?
I’m looking to save every single cent for three years and purchase a catamaran, what’s your recommendations?
ADD 35% if your Canadian..
I'm with you on the cheoy lee call BUT I'm more down with the West Sail 42 because I like girls with a big ole' stern.
Hahaha me too!!!
what about bayfield boat nice job
Ohhh I love a bayfield! Haven't seen any for sale yet
When do the Moody's start showing up...⛵
Soon I hope!
70's 80's 90's? Personally, too old for what I've looked at. How do you know, how can I tell how old those images are? They could be 10+ years old and not even look that good anymore. Is there a way to date the pics?
I've decided to put a 20-year age limit on anything I'd consider buying + just has to have a swim platform / scoop.
What websites are you using as you put together these price point vids?
That is yacht world
What happened to the Alberg 30 lady? Did she finish restoring the boat?
Afraid it's still sitting 😭
@@LadyKSailing Darn! Was hoping to see that Canadian Leaf on the water and hear about her escapades. Love the paint job.
I'm SoCal sailor located in SoDak you're Midwest how do I contact you? I really like your thoughts....very well done.
I ran foredeck on a Fast42. 3 Newport, Ensenada races. One on a 30ft Cal.
If you ever need experienced crew.
No Morgan 43?
Haven't seen any yet :(
Why do you have a Bristol $200,000 T37 sailboat as the thumbnail for this video? Its a disservice to us Tayana 37 owners!