Thats why coddling a generation is so toxic. They will see every inconvenience as oppression. Their world views become so stunted they would do some real destructive shit, seeing their childish narcissistic cause as some virtuous crusade.
No one mentions like....the actual scene going to this song? Stacking chairs? Carrying planks of wood? For what? Youre in a basement. Is it cleaning day? It confused the heck out of me.
Haha, you raise such a great point. Haven’t seen the movie, so I’m not entirely sure what context was surrounding this is (I think she’s convincing them to take action against Magnifico?), but I cannot fathom who story-boarded this and how they pitched it. “So what are they gonna do in the background?” “I think we should have them moving boxes.” “Why?” “To prepare for…. something?”
I’ll Make A Man Out Of You is such a bloody good song, in fact the whole 1998 Mulan soundtrack is amazing. How did Disney go from absolute bangers to….whatever the Wish soundtrack is.
I'll Make A Man Out of You is such a hype song and banger that my drill group in Navy Boot Camp sang it to pump ourselves up before performing at Bootcamp graduation. About 15 years after the movie came out. It hits all the right beats and is a banger!
Mulan uses music for storytelling better than any other Disney movie. A Girl Worth Fighting for is a happy, upbeat song. And then. They find ruins. The Huns killed innocent people. They find the doll of a little girl. A girl worth fighting for. There are no more musical numbers.
It's literally such a classic, I don't understand how musicals have gotten so bad with Disney because the rules and the how-to's of basic musical show and tell seem really obvious if you watch even half of the Renaissance collection. It's not rocket science but they're just not able to do it...
@@awhitney3063They are though. Moana and Tangled did it well. Wish was ruined by greed (The composer was given one week to write the songs, and not enough information on the story)
The one who writes the songs was heard to be given three weeks without much any context of Wish. Just a very vague idea that she likely spent most of the time decrypting
@@anonymousperidot7446 So very likely to the point that they forgot they're supposed to put consistent musicality, rhymes and EVEN GRAMMAR. Memory blackage can occur if someone is very stressed like how you studied a lot before an exam but when receiving the paper, your brain goes blank. But honestly, just how sleep deprived were they to have something so messed up? I mean I think I've heard them saying that it's only a draft but the executives just took it and put it in the movie, likely without properly viewing
I thing they are writing about things not known yet go treasure hunting get a map and find the clues you don’t give them enough credit! They are more cleaver than you think
The fact that this movie came out MONTHS ago and people are still talking about how absurdly bad it is. Songs, writing, visuals, etc. Just goes to show how hard this movie flopped and how much people care
honestly makes me wonder if it was on purpose to get people talking, since if it had just been mediocre or even pretty good, people would just be like "hey, that was alright" then forget about it, but this is unforgettably bad
tbf, it was supposed to be the huge 100th year anniversary project for disney that basically was supposed to bring back the old magic and add in the new magic... but it failed lmao
I feel like the reason Wish gets so much attention for its mediocrity is because it’s meant to be Disney’s big giant 100th anniversary meant to commemorate the studio’s legacy, yet it’s quality is such a mess. That, and usually Disney’s big musical movies are fun, and even when they’re mid otherwise the songs are catchy and enjoyable (looking at you Frozen 2). Wish’s songs are so bad they help bomb the movie.
There's something so funny about Knowing What I Know Now sounding more like a villain song instrumentally than This Is the Thanks I Get. Magnifico's song just sounds so upbeat, and then this song feels more in line with a villain song
@@b_w_j They tried to make Magnifico seem like the bad guy for not granting people's wishes that he considered too vague or dangerous. But tbh.. I get his perspective. Like, what if somebody made a wish for humanity to die off with only the wisher being the one who lives? What if somebody wishes someone to fall in love with them forcefully, or wishes for an endless plague on the kingdom of Rosas? What I'm trying to say is, Magnifico really had a point, but the writers just decided to fully turn him evil cause "waaah, people no get wishies" and just have him possessed by a book
Thank you! I was wondering why “This Is the Thanks I Get”sounded like a hero song and “Knowing What I Know Now” sounded like the villain song, as well as actually agreeing with the “villain”.
i wish u guys could understand the difference between a Rally Song and a Villain song. broaden your musical horizons a liiiiiil bit how either song sounds isnt the issue its the piss poor lyrics. the closest I can think to rally songs off the top of my head rn is This is War by 30 Seconds to Mars. its a bit more uplifting sounding than this but thats an example of what im getting here. big scary drums aren't evil y'all only think that cus of Be Prepared (which uses african style rhythms) and Savages (which is a militant rhythm cus... duh war's breaking out) but other villain songs are pretty darn whimsical or isn't as tough as this song sounds What We Know Now sounds the way it does cus Asha is taking this hella seriously. Its not a whimsical highschool musical "All in this Together" tune but not defeatist enough to be a sad somber song (ie God Help the Outcast). Its a rally song. While Magnifeco has his head up his ass and is being cocky, hence why its in a more jovial tune. of course I say all this, if only the subtext they clearlyattempted was done properly. but it fumbled so hard. (pisspoor lyrics and rhythm issues) im not defending wish im just defending how versatile music actually *can* be and it shouldn't be so boxed up like the way you guys end up doing as a means to say why its music is bad ("it sounds evil therefore bad guy" , "it sounds jovial therefore good guy", when either style in either sing is neutral at best and delends in context.) its as frustrating as people saying Thanks I Get is bad cus its in Major key, not all bad guy or even sad songs are in Minor key! disney execs and other execs see this and this can hurt music in the long run. i sound a bit rude but I'm frustrated with this sentiment that this song sounds villainous when it's not. i wish i had more examples of "good" songs that sound like this song does...
I thought WISH’s songs were okayish. Until I heard “watch out world here I are!” A line from “I’m a star”. I started seeing, or hearing more of the errors in WISHs songs
I feel like they added in that laid back dumb deer character last minute because they couldn't figure out a lyric to rhyme with "I'm a star" lol. Like they felt the need to justify it because a dumb character is saying it😭
From a a musical perspective, I like to compare this to We Don’t Talk About Bruno. In that song, each character had their own story to tell and had very distinct verses from each other. It added more personality to their characters
The Seven Teens tried so hard to be the next Madrigals, and they failed at it. Thing is, the Madrigals are interesting characters with their own unique, distinct characterizations from one another, and genuinely meaningful interactions. The teens are just… window dressing with no interesting traits from one another.
This song gives Magnifico way too much credit. They act like he's some mass murderer but all he did was steal some wishes that don't even seem to affect anyone that much.
The thing that gets me is Magnifico grants a wish a month. If you assume the average lifespan is 100 years, that's 1200 wishes granted in the average citizens life. If there are more than 1200 people living there, then some people will logically never get their wishes granted. I guess the people there can't do basic math?
The problem i had with this number is that they gather woods and such as if they working to build some kind of machine to defeat macnifico, but after the song ends they're like "So, what are we gonna do?" Like seriously??! And all the things they built disappear. Unlike, in moana "how far I'll go reprise " , she actually repair her ship while singing it and move towards her goal after the song.
You know what this song reminds me of? It reminds me of when people would do fan-translations of Japanese popsongs, where they'd try to cram an entire sentence into fitting the rhythm of a single word, all because the word was "long". My head hurts form the all the horrible mistakes in the sings for this movie. Disney, DO NOT hire these songwriters again, they're not worth it.
UUUUUGH YES!! They don’t even bother to take the same concept idea and meaning even if metaphorical or allegorical, and take English words that mean the exact thing to make it simpler and short
I had a friend growing up who loved the English covers of Japanese songs, but I could NEVER get into them exactly because of the word vomit! It always sounded so awkward
1. ''Wait till they hear our feet go Dun Dun Dun'' It completely kills the seriousness of the moment. Making them look less like revolutionaries and more like children having a temper tantrum. I would also change ''they'' to ''he''. It's Magnifico you have a problem with. The citizens of Rosas did nothing to them. 2. I don't like how the song stops to just have them make noises. 3. ''Now I'm something else'' Very descriptive. Couldn't come up with a word? There are things called dictionaries if you can't find the right word. 4. It's not about the song but the visuals. Why is there a silhouette of Simon (in the lyric version) if he's not in the scene and doesn't sing? Did Disney think we wouldn't notice?
Adding onto that, the line "I used to be sweet but now I'm something else" or whatever it was is honestly embarrassing to put in a professional song. It sounds like something I'd say when I was a cringe emo kid in middle school.
You ever have those moments where you're just chilling and you start singing up melodies and making it up as you go along? That's exactly what this feels like.
Especially when Asha is just… switching between the same two notes so much that she starts sliding hesitantly into some of them like she’s not sure if she wants to break the pattern or not (which happens so damn much in this movie’s soundtrack)
They removed the actually interesting parts of this movie, too!! Starboy could’ve been such an interesting, entertaining character. His interactions and dynamic with Asha could’ve been so sweet and wholesome, too.
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossomikr, her story legit could’ve been her going against the king so he doesn’t lock up her true love away, not cause she was pissy some wishes don’t get granted
@harpercore I mean yeah, but wouldn't cancellation be outright abruptly ending a show and not letting it finish at all? Disney totally fucked the show over, but it seemed more they cut it short than outright canceled it. Sorry, if any of that came off as rude, I was just confused on whether the cancellation thing was accurate.
Frozen is overhated and overrated. It’s not bad, it’s more alright-good. I bet in 10 years people will be bashing on Encanto even though it’s actually genuinely a really good movie
Asha herself looks like a Isabela Madrigal race-changed copy mixed with Rapunzel color and personality. Edit: her concept art looks soooo much better, the orange dress and the hair were so pretty.
@@l.c.m.7191 God, when seeing the concept art for her, with her hair afro textured and short, it made me so sad to see it braided and positioned as if it was easier to have her designed to look like she had straight hair. Really wish they went for an orange or something vibrant like that too, since yeah, first glance she reminds me wayy too much of Isabela
@@bobtheball5384 I remember seeing two conceptual hairdos for Asha that were both super pretty and better than what we got. One was curly and short, combined with a nice headband, and the other was a gorgeous braid. Both were so pretty omg… and yeah, her design really should’ve been orange centered instead of purple.
He looks like the two of them put together and supplemented with the weight of Dolores. Camilo is one of those adolescent giant stringbeans, and Bruno...subsists on biscuits and water.😰😥
Also storytelling wise, imo the song achieves nothing. Like we get that they’re “fed up yeAH” but not WHY they’re so fed up, Asha never actually explains what they “know now”. It’s a whole song where the hook is about this big realization, never flushing that realization out and never doing a thing to convince the friends to help her. Commit. Fcking. Treason. Like girl, so far you’ve told me he’s been lying, and that he’ll win if I don’t do anything… Where’s the threat? Is my home gonna burn, will it be the end of the world, are people gonna die? So far all you’ve told me is politicians are corrupt, which, I knew that already- so, what do you know now that’s such a big deal that we have to fight! THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!
you've been deceive A darkenss is coming where is power no ending The wishes he's now transcending. Awakening A old evil that can be Much worse you'll believe And truth we'e been told
This is my biggest issue with most of Wish’s songs overall; they just feel so damn empty and pointless in the narrative. Like “I’m a star.” What do we learn from this song? Everyone is a star, everyone is their own origin story. What does that… mean? My only guess is that this ties into the whole idea that you can make your own wishes come true without magnifico’s help… but Asha already KNEW that, that’s WHY she made her wish.
THANK YOU for bringing up the fact that Asha is literally committing treason! Even people who think Asha is in the wrong completely gloss over that she's trying to overthrow the king! The king who literally charges them nothing, grants their wishes, and keeps his subjects safe!
Honestly i m starting to understand why me, being bilingual and usually prefering original english media than the translated french versions, prefered the french songs. The French version of knowing what we know now is "Ce n'est plus mon roi" (This (man) is no longer my King) and it just overall has way more personality as a song in the chorus and overall imo. Although still a few problems with the cadence, it evens out throughout the song and i honestly enjoyed it in the theater! I was so shocked i like the french version more than the Og lmao
@@TheresNoWay.Yeeeessss, having her do a solo number while she watches Magnifico from the shadows/afar as he destroys more and more wishes would have been FANTASTIC. Not to mention help enforce the fact he's supposed to be the villain, so he SHOULD BE DOING ACTUAL VILLAIN THINGS!
Knowing about how Julia Michaels’ involvement was handled, this whole soundtrack makes a lot more sense. I cannot think of a way it could have ended well in those circumstances
Do an entire breakdown of "I'm a Star" please. I would love your to tear its lyrics apart like "When it comes to the universe, we're all shareholders, get that out of your system! Solar" and especially "I'm a star; Watch out world here I are."
Ok 1. Your jokes and commentary are SO on point. I legit spit out my cereal laughing at the “Not Allowed” part. 2. Your future Wish videos are guaranteed to be hilarious and I can’t wait (like a full video on I’m a Star hehe especially for the “Watch out World here I ARE” part alone like omg) 3. Having said that, if you ever need a Wish break, there’s always: *ahem* The Scuttlebutt. Anyways, glad I threw caution to every warning sign and my butt found the subscribe button to your channel. Keep it up! sOLaRR! (ok I’ll stop byeee)
Hahaha omigosh thank you so much!! I'm so glad you laughed lol. (Are you also watching Astor Rhymemaster's videos lol cuz yeah I feel the scuttlebutt thing.) I guess I'm committed to the wish bit now unless something comes out that's somehow more idiotic. Thank you so much for the support I'm so glad you're here! 😁😁
"Magnifico is not the man he claims to be, He's more vicious than I ever could CONCIEVE" There's literally a word in the English language that fits the intended meaning perfectly and doesn't break the flow as horribly
“If not you, then who? If not now, when?” - Hillel the Elder, a first-century Jewish rabbi and scholar from Roman-occupied Judea who is currently cringing in his grave over this awkward, awkward song
god the line “i was sweet but now i’m somethin’ else” is making me go insane because 1) who are you? 2) absolutely NO ONE before was doing self-callouts and saying they changed or developed into something in an “i” way, you could even argue that maybe they were but in a “we” way 3) what is she implying? she was a nice person and now she’s gonna kick orphans? magnifico made her and only her change into someone mean? 4) why are we giving HER a spotlight? i won’t watch the movie but she hasn’t even been talked about so clearly she isn’t a major character, why are we shining a light on *her* development i am just so SO frustrated
Also, good GOSH, they really couldn't find a more specific description than "something else"? That is literally giving NOTHING on characterisation. I don't know, say "sweetest hope has set this heart ablaze" to say that her initial sweetness has turned into a loving passionate flame that wants to fight for a better future. Just SOMETHING please!
I really wanted to see more of the friends! She’s known to just appear out of no where, what if she could be used as a type of spy? Sneak around the castle instead of having the Queen join the group. Since sneezy has a lot of allergies, he would be well known in ingredients and maybe even organic chemistry. There are so many possibilities to add to these characters that is wasted cause “haha funny low voice talking goat”
Haha that's pretty much what I was wondering, until I heard that they basically gave her like a week to write all the songs and didn't tell her the story aha. I wouldn't be surprised if someone turned to AI because they were on a time crunch... But of course, it's all just *speculation* 👀
She was given three weeks and little to no information on Wish's story. No one can produce a good musical from those circumstances. I'm no Michaels fan but she was done DIRTY.
I'm no Julia Michaels fan, but her own songs are MILES better than what she and Benjamin Rice wrote for Wish. She can clearly write well, it was just the terribly shady business practices Disney used.
I honestly pity her to have to work with a project for a big company but don't know what you're even supposed to do. The sort of pressure and amount head bangings just to come up with an idea of what you're supposed to write is unimaginable...
The one thing I remember about this song is that when I was watching the movie, some 3 year old in the audience went “uh oh” when the queen came in. One of the only highlights from my time watching the movie.
16:24: Theres another small thing I hate about this line and it's that "too many bad things" feels like something a child would say and it's super vague. Like, "bad things"? you couldn't come up with anything else that means that?
What doesn’t make sense to me in this song is what even is the "bad things" they are talking about? No "bad things" happen in Rosas or at least, we are not showed that - there is no crime, they welcome everyone, you don't have to "pay rent" - the only sad person we see is Simon and everyone else seems to LOVE the King, they give their wishes by their own free will and SHOULD know that only some wishes are granted since is all granted in a public show.
@@l.c.m.7191 exactly, The king lets them live there for free and he doesn't even charge them rent. It felt like they were trying for a morally ambiguous villain like in Encanto, but they ended up deciding against it eventually and just forcing him to be evil for no reason. Magnifico is such an awful villain, especially for Disney
The laziest part of this song that nobody seems to mention is that in the middle of the song, (spoilers?) the queen just WALKS IN. Why would she just walk in? In that part of the movie, Asha and her friends were in a secret hideout. How does the queen just know that Asha and her friends are there? It feels so lazy and jarring for the queen to just walk in so that she can add in the song 😭 Not to mention, one thing that bothers me about wish is that Magnifico and the queen doesn't seem to have any guards or knights around the palace, not even servants. It feels lazy and strange that a royalty wouldn't have people around in a huge palace, and so when you see the queen walking around, she's not accompanied by any lady in waiting or maids. WHICH AGAIN--- How did the queen find out that Asha and her friends are in a hideout and where the hideout is if we're never really shown that the queen and Magnifico have any guards/knights/maids???
I'd say it's pretty much just small royalty since Magnifico just built this small kingdom. I don't know exactly how old it is, but I'm assuming just a few decades. It's mostly composed of immigrants. Even if there are certain dangers occuring, I'm assuming that Magnifico could still protect himself because he's a great mage who can do about anything. The queen probably doesn't need one since most of the time, she doesn't go anywhere far from the castle and is mostly with Magnifico. But, I do admit, you have a good question. How did she even know where Asha is? Asha gave her a signal earlier? What if the queen decided to expose her instead? Why would Asha be shocked to see the queen if that were the case?
13:10 exactly. We are literally looking at Ukraine and plenty of other places with legitimate revolution and they called THIS a revolution? My grandparents were from China (rest in peace) and suffered through the Cultural Revolution where they lost most of their family because Mao decided that merchants and scholars do not deserve to live. And here we have Magnifico who does not require taxes or bribes and voluntarily grants wishes and his crime for eternal torture is… not returning something that was given to him with no expectation of being returned?? What?
Considering how Magnifico grants wishes publicly, you'd think that his policy on granting wishes would be public knowledge. The fact that he doesn't even require taxes makes him better than at least... 80% of every ruler of any country ever. Rosas isn't even implied to have a crime problem or any form of discrimination, and clearly welcomes immigrants from everywhere, so the conflict is just??? Disney is so tone-deaf, it's embarrassing.
Ukraine is getting invaded, it's not having a revolution but aside from that I get what you're saying. My great grandfather was a food smuggler who helped the Dutch Resistance though he wasn't really a member himself which is the only reason why I'm born as this was before grandma was born. He happened to get caught and because he wasn't a member of the Resistance, just a civilian trying to help them because the Nazis took over our country's food supply as a way to control our people through starvation- he was 'merely' turnt into an example and given a public beating to discourage Dutch locals from aiding the Resistance like he had done. The event happened in my childhood hometown and I saw that spot all the time when I was younger because it's a small town- mom used to call it an 'overgrown village' all the time and my childhood neighborhood had been build after WWII because a bomb that had been left in the area exploded not long after the war ended so they decided to turn construct some buildings to house the people who had became homeless during the war, a history that stained the area forever as the area is currently home to one of the Dutch drug cartels which meant I grew up in the smalltown edition of Breaking Bad and I have scars for life. I swear so many people nowadays scream oppression whilst having the fanciest lives ever, which is honestly a reflection seen in Wish; that the people who had everything start a revolution and deem themselves oppressed the moment they get told 'no'. I invite them to spend just a month in my old neighborhood and to showcase them they don't even know what it's like to live in the aftermath of oppression, let alone be actually oppressed.
@@inferiorinferno8859 And the kicker is that stories like yours are happening all over the world. I swear, Disney isn't appealing to anybody with the "revolution" message in this movie, except for the trust fundie kids that still like their movies.
This actually gives me an idea. This is clearly intended to be a "rally the troops" sort of song, so what if the cadence shifts as it goes along. The emphasis starts on the weak beats, but as they gain confidence and get won over by her argument the emphasis becomes more and more strong. Almost as if you're using the song to tell the story of the musical or something.
Whenever they would repeat the same word in the song, like the “lie, lie, “lie” part, it made me think that they couldn’t think of any better lyrics so they just repeated the same word. They also did it in “this is the thanks I get” where he says “I give and give and give and give”.
Maybe if the song had more personality or you know, the lie actually had some significance or real betrayal, then I think the repetition would be stronger here. "Saying your wishes aren't safe because of me is a lie lie lie lie" isn't going to resonate with the audience. His system was perhaps unfair, but no more unfair than any other lottery system that the citizens consensually participate in. Sure, I guess he's lying that Asha's making the wishes unsafe in order to rally his people, but so what? It's not that serious of a lie and most people in the audience think Asha's rebellion isn't valid. If the lie had been something like "Magnifico lied about his backstory. He actually destroyed his hometown and created this kingdom in order to be in charge," then the repetition of lie would be meaningful. Still repetitive in the way it's sung, but at least the lie would matter.
I can practically feel how this song is trying to emulate past musical anthems about children revolting against a higher power. I can FEEL it trying to capture that boot-stomping, angry kids vibe of “The World Will Know,” “Revolting Children,” and “It’s The Hard Knock Life”. The problem, of course, is that these songs feature kids who are ACTUALLY SUFFERING. We have child workers fighting their underpaying bosses, schoolchildren terrorized by an abusive principal, and orphans lamenting their unloved, abused, overworked lives. All this, placed next to…teens who hadn’t even known they were unsatisfied until that day, teens who live a comparatively cushy life where they trade (willingly) their wish for free housing. There is no mention of people actually asking for these wishes back if they leave the city…because no one wants to leave. The reason they’re just farting around while they sing is because they literally have zero idea how to defeat Magnifico…because there’s no clear thing to defeat. He’s not a corporation you can picket in front of, or a psychopathic leader you need to physically fight to defeat, or a cruel dictator you can refuse to slave for. I guess the whole thing is “release the wishes” but because Magnifico is so underwhelming as a villain, their entire plan is just “make him look the other way while we break into his house and steal his things.” Their biggest issue came from trying to open the gd gate to let the wishes out. Thus, this whole revolution song falls flat - there’s no preparation or plot moving, there’s nothing to DO. In fact, what it does do well is show how immature this group is. It’s HIGHLIGHTING how little they’re doing, how small the problem seems, because it’s emulating past songs about bigger problems. Where other songs had the kids doing things (planning the strike, rebelling against the principal/work by causing chaos) these kids are in a basement, making shadow puppets. They aren’t inciting violence, or gathering followers, or spreading information. Their worst crime is that they’re kinda being loud, but like…not TOO loud. It’s giving kids at a sleepover whispering swearwords. I was embarrassed at this scene. They seemed younger than their age, because no matter how angry they sing, they’re still portrayed as youth in a relatively privileged society. Their biggest issue is that their king doesn’t grant every single one of their wishes - newsflash, Disney, that’s the entire world. 99 percent of people will not have their deepest desires realized. This might be hard to believe from the film industry upper-middle/upper class perspective, but 99 percent of the world would absolutely give the ambition they had at 18 if it meant they had housing, food, and healthcare. Jesus, Asha's grandfather lived to 100 and looks 60, who CARES if he never got to play the frigging lute?
@@Jelid_Officialwas about to comment that. AI at least puts SOME effort into making things, it’s not ridiculously lazy, like these writers, just lacks its own imagination. Give it an idea tho and by golly will it WORK
Even ChatGBT wouldn't be this bad 😭 It'd have bland lyrics, but I would bet money that it can come up with something better than "here I are!" Just so it could rhyme with "star"
@@miavika1074 man ion think the writers were to blame for this one given the concepts that didn't make it into the film, including a Star boy and a villain couple. The whole movie reeks of studio executives meddling with the film more and more until it became this mess. Writers have a lot less creative control than people believe they do and this is why, to shift the blame on them rather than the people they have to take orders from.
You actually said my exact thought about You’re A Star - the first few verses are actually acceptable (bar a few weird lines), but then gets steadily worse until it hits ‘here’s a fun allegory’ where it just completely unravels Also these lyrics sound like one of those Google Translate parodies that used to be really popular on UA-cam
There's 2 lyrics where it ends with '' And '' The '' Saying that your wishes are not safe because of me and. '' as well as '' And i know i can't do this on my own and '' That's weird! It's like Asha doesn't finished her phrase and imediately said the next one. She is supposed to encourage her friends, not panic and never fisnished her phrases 🤨
On supporting smaller, talented artists: Righteous Robot! And his stop motion film: Gruff ! It seems amazing and hes posting it HERE to UA-cam! Id say spending your time supporting him is a much better investment than wish lmao
You realized how bad the Wish lyrics are when you listen to traslations of the songs in other languages. I'm from Latinamerica and most of the problem with the lyrics have been fixed in the translation to Latin Spanish. This song in particular doesn't suffer from any of the problems you point out in this video, neither do the other songs like This Wish and This is the Thanks I get? Its seems like the translators saw how bad everything sounded and decided to do Disney a favour. So yeah, I totally recommed watching this movie in any other language other than English because it would definitely be a better experience.
okay I might actually have make to make this HAHAHA but i am a very slow artist so if another ace attorney fan artist wants to get to it first go for it. if not? i'll do it. for you, random youtube stranger.
This has made me realize that A Wish Worth Making is the only good song and it’s NOT EVEN IN THE ACTUAL MOVIE! Edit: At All Costs is amazing but I wish it was like the demo
It has a cool hook, but honestly I feel like it suffers from a lot of the same issues as the ones in the film. I will say the pop context does make me consider the cadence issues to be more stylistic, but there are still lyrics that sound kind of like chat gpt babbling about nothing just to fill space. Honestly, the message behind it does hold some weight for me though and I will give it that.
@@brainless_mastermind We need to go back to the days when everyone thought Frozen was the best thing to come out of Disney (because it is one of the best things to come out of Disney)
If there's one positive to Wish being as bad as it is, this series is showing me where some of my mistakes are when I'm writing my songs. It's kinda sad that a beginner like me, who's only in the rough draft phase, is making fewer mistakes than these professionals made. I mean, I at least keep my grammar straight! I'm just having trouble with keeping the lines consistent and not leaning so much on slant/half rhymes.
Oh, same. I don't know anything about music theory and my lyrics are littered with half-rhymes, but even I'm not putting emphasis on the *wrong syllable of a word.* How do you even do that? 😭
I haven't watched hazbin Hotel, but if you listen to the songs, the difference in quality between wish and hazbin is insane. DISNEY managed to fail against hazbin (this isn't meant to be rude towards hazbin or anything. I am just surprised that Disney, a large company that has ALOT of iconic songs, managed to do loose compared to a passion project.)
I also take issue with the ‘so profound’ at the end of Amaya’s line. Like, what is? What was? The love? His evil? Her new understanding of what’s happening? Maybe I’m just dumb but I feel like it was just thrown in there to rhyme Also the dun dun dun dun and the something else made me physically recoil lol
I absolutely love your analysis. As a translator who is obsessed with musical translation, I've listened to a couple of versions of the song and well... I guess the French did the best job trying to make it into a somehow cohesive song. But boy, oh boy, my native, Polish translation team must have just given up at some point, because the Polish version is even worst than the original when it comes to beats and stressed sylabes, not to mention the rhymes (even the half-rhymes are mostly gone).
0:14 What is she referencing by saying “I had no idea how they treated poor Julia Michaels when they made it”? I looked online for a bit but didn’t find anything, did Disney screw her over in the songwriting process somehow?
Forgot what the interview was about but yes, Disney screwed her over. This is because Disney made her write the songs with only THE CONCEPTS/DRAFTS! There wasn't a plot yet so she really did not know what the hell Wish was about and had only some vague concepts (like love song, wishes, etc) to work with. Plus they only gave her a few WEEKS! to write the songs! It's why they sound like the first drafts then the final product.
I gave up on getting in the industry right away. Not just because it’s very “in group preference” and you have to be a major suck-up to be considered, but even if I got in, I’d have to work on crap like this! Hence, my graphic novel series
Hi! Music boy here. So cadence in music refers to the chord progressions that end sections of a song. You have authentic cadences that end with V-I, half cadences that end in V, etc. What you're talking about I would probably consider the lyrical meter. Meter in poetry essentially refers to how a line in poetry is emphasized, and it's something you have to pay attention to, and usually why a lot of poetry sucks because people forget it's a thing. If you want to get really into the weeds about it, a meter is made up of feet, and these feet take on any number of forms, like dactyls (BUM bum bum), spondees (BUM BUM), iambs (bum BUM), etc. Really cool stuff to keep in the back pocket. :)
No training, just book nerd- I was going to mention Shakespeare's Iambic Pentameter because that's literally the stress no stress syllable pattern she first references, but I'm glad to find more knowledge about this stuff in the comments. Just going to casually screenshot so I can figure out how to write poetry better, thank you.
Thats why the cadences in Hazbin sound so good. If HELL if FOREVER then Heaven MUST be a LIE, If ANGELS can do WHATEVER and REMAIN in the SKY. Good pacing, and clever placing makes a song go from 😮💨 to 🥰
@@txwtw If there's one thing hazbin hotel actually does good in, it's songs! ( ╹▽╹ ) The songs actually tell us about the character and help push the plot forward! (Or try the best they can with the mediocre writing...) (^～^;)ゞ
I like the song it sounds epic but doesn’t work in context. Listening to the song you’d think they were oppressed their whole lives but things only just starting getting bad for them
- I was shy, but now I feel strong - He thinks we’re nothing, but he’s dead wrong I don’t know much about songwriting, and even I managed to come up with a better version of “I was sweet, but now I’m something else”
The first step to learning good song writing: learning the basics of poetry. Good job covering this topic. I pretty much agree with everything you’re saying.
I have been listening to almost every Disney soundtrack for years and never realized the cadence in “I’ll Make A Man Out Of You” until now. My god I still have a lot to learn.
Just watched the movie and Her Grandpa Wish inspired people to start a rebellion, which is what Magnifico claimed to be dangerous about the vagueness of the wish. It was her grandpa's wish and her actions that caused him to become a "villain" and inspire a rebellion against him.
I'm constantly confused how they made what, for all intents and purposes, was supposed to be a musical, and completely missed the fact that the songs aren't supposed to be expressly "Let me tell you what is happening" beat by beat rehashes of events. Where is the symbolism? Where is the synchronicity? Why are they cramming so much *nothing* into the lyrics? Honestly how has the writer made successful pop songs? These are a mess. They aren't musical songs. They aren't pop. They just...exist?
welcome to rosas was such an unnecessary song because almost everything mentioned there had been told to the audience by asha 5 mins before💀 like do u not know how an introduction song works?
Why didn't they choose their bests songwritters, like Robert and Kristten (Frozen soundtrack, Remember me from Coco and Agatha All Along from WandaVision) or even LMM (Moana, Hamilton, In the Heighs, Vivo, Tic Tic Boom), to write the songs for THEIR CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION MOVIE?
Discovered you through your first Wish video. This video was an absolute banger! Really loved how you broke down cadence and how the lyrics played into the cadence issues of this song. You have an amazing sense of humor too 😂 some of those edits sent my sides into orbit. I really resonated with your final point, as someone who studied music in school but is working in engineering now because the opportunities just aren’t there. I subbed to your channel after watching this video - we really need to support creators like you. One counterpoint I have to your point about other writers writing far better movies than Wish on the daily is, I’d personally extend far more charity to a creative writer than I would to some ghoulish studio exec, and to me, the problems with Wish seem to stem far higher up the chain than just mediocre writing. Like, I think about the original concept ideas of having a villain couple and Starboy being Asha’s love interest, and I think about how much better of a movie we would’ve had if those ideas made it to the final product. We could’ve had the power of love be used for both good *and* evil, for instance. It’s one hell of an idea for sure, so I do think that the writers and animators behind this movie are quite talented and can at least come up with good ideas. So it’s hard for me to believe that the same creative staff would look at a talking goat and a Luma copycat and think those are better than their original concept. Rather, I think the studio executives pressured the movie to be as SEO-optimized and marketable as possible, scrubbing any last sense of creativity down the drain. And this creative bleaching leeched into the songs as well. I don’t think the songwriter for this movie thought she was doing her best work - hell I’m willing to bet they told her “just copy Moana, here’s 3 weeks”. And under these conditions of systemic rot, I really don’t know if *any* writer would be able to turn out something decent. That’s just the state of modern Disney in my mind. Now if you don’t mind me, imma go watch Spider-Verse again for the 10th time. (Side note, if you ever decide to dive into the musical side of that movie with all its leitmotifs, I would watch the SHIT out of that video) Wishing you all the best for your UA-cam journey! I’ll be here to watch it unfold 🙌
oooh so cadence (how you explained it) and unnatural cadence is kinda what Megamind does in his speech! Except it makes him special and fun, he's a SUPER villain after all.
@@txwtw yes that is what i meant, when he does i it's fun and adds o his individuality also shows even more hat he is not from there, much like any accent does show where someone is from. In this case it's jus bad and a disservice to the song.
@@txwtw - I thought it was more because he was raised and educated in jail, so he didn't necessarily learn how to pronounce some things correctly. Metroman is also from the same planet and doesn't have trouble pronouncing the same words that Megamind does. There is also an implication that he's doing it on purpose: recall the scene when he has captured Roxanne near the beginning of the movie. She remarks on the spider. He says "spider" normally, then as he starts to villain monologue at her again, he pronounces it "spee-eye-der."
It sounds like they're trying to make Lin Manuel Miranda songs with all the shoehorning and awkward cadence, but they don't know what they're doing. It's why they are ending lines with "and." It's like the song isn't written in iambic pentameter to begin with and they are just putting music to a first draft and no one is reading it out loud before recording.
I unfortunately did spend money to watch this with my 4 year old daughter at the cinema. I don't know anything about writing music, but from a layman's perspective I can say that not a single one if the songs impressed me or had me humming the tune afterward. They were all just so forgettable. But the thing that got me most was the sadness of it all. The best of Disney is decades old now. I really wanted my daughter to be able to grow up with great, impactful Disney movies like I did as a child. My daughter likes Frozen and Tangled, and will watch those on repeat. The latest films, including this one, bore her within 5 minutes - and she LOVES princesses - so I think that says something.
I had a sort of similar experience because we (my family) went with friends to go see it and I agree wholeheartedly about the forgetfulness of the songs
The only one that I will hum for a bit is the chorus of "This Is the Thanks I Get" because it's upbeat and SO REPETITIVE. But the song itself is a nothing burger like the rest.
All the songs in this movie sound like the music came FIRST and then was layered haphazardly onto pre-existing story beats. It's kind of an odd change from the lyrics informing the story and the theme informing the music. This is like someone rapping to a karaoke track of a pop song without any prep.
For the lines with the rushed syllables, it felt like they were trying to imitate Lin-Manuel Miranda and his fast-paced style of lyricism, like you'd here in Hamilton or Encanto. But his style is very distinctive and VERY hard to replicate.
Idea: instead of a zooming background, maybe try something like a slowly scrolling loop background? It has a way slimmer chance of triggering motion sensitivity.
19:02 _”Don’t let your money go to the capitalists.”_ Capitalism’s only a tool, to be used for good or evil. The real problem today is corporatism: soulless committees that monopolize the tool to create equally soulless art, while locking truly creative people out to limit their competition. I wholeheartedly agree we shouldn’t pump our hard-earned money into Disney. Thousands of struggling indie artists out there deserve a little of that capitalism way more than these mega-corporations do.
Fr. People blame capitalism as a whole for our current consumerism problems, when the real issue is greed and corporate worship. Like with all tools, if we use this one for good, we can allow all of the talented and passionate people who are currently being screwed over by the industry to get the success and growth they deserve.
You realise that "corporatism" is part of capitalism, right? That a system where someone can own the means of production while having no hand in making the things produced inevitably results in a disconnect between the rich owners and their employees, which results in sterile, safe investments being favored over risky passion projects?
THANK YOU! When I heard Knowing What I Know Now, I always felt like something was not quite right with the lyrics and beat placement. I'm no music expert so I couldn't really tell what it was but something about it just did not sound as planned and well put-together as other songs I have heard before.
When it comes to the opening line "You've been deceived Magnifico is not the man he claims to be" You can might as well make it "You've been deceived Magnifico is not at all what you've believed" Boom,easy fix!
Honestly if the song and story was re-written, this could’ve of worked as Asha being a princess, rebellion song against both the king and queen’s evil plans. The group of seven could be considered “traitors” to the kingdom who princess Asha bands together to create a revolution group she assembled to fight against her parents plans and to save the kingdom (and Starboy)
I like the line "I've seen him show his true colors in shades of green" Because green is always the evil color of Disney. But I'm probably just looking too deep into it
Your little rant at the end got to me. As someone who aspires to work in film one day, it was a throat punch to remember I will likely not matter in the industry.
I'm by no means a musical expert (much less an expert in the English language), but I believe that a better alternative to the lyric of 07:34 could be: "That's an absolute lie". That way, we avoid repetition, and emphasize the fact that Asha is being falsely accused of... Whatever happens in the movie (haven't seen it, and I don't think I'll ever do so). I'm aware that I'm not making any award winning or revolutionary discovery, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents about an extremely specific line that, whenever I hear it, makes my gears grind each other in an attempt to pulverize themselves by friction.
It would be really cool to see a group of creators like you get together and try to "rewrite" some of these songs. Watching this video I thought the base instrumental part of this song was pretty cool, but the lyrical rhythm and cadence feels so disconnected and confusing.
This does give me hope for me and other small creators that we really don’t need billions of money or the best actors but your skill and your creativity is all you need
Really Asha, what's so bad about Magnifico? He lets you live in the kingdom for free, and he doesn't even charge you rent!
No tax either bruh, lemme live in Rosas under Magnifico
Fun fact: In the feudal system, taxes *are* rent.
she just doesn't respect his genetics, that he got those genes from outer space
Thats why coddling a generation is so toxic. They will see every inconvenience as oppression. Their world views become so stunted they would do some real destructive shit, seeing their childish narcissistic cause as some virtuous crusade.
I feel sorry for him in the end
No one mentions like....the actual scene going to this song? Stacking chairs? Carrying planks of wood? For what? Youre in a basement. Is it cleaning day? It confused the heck out of me.
Its SEEMS like they are building something but at the end they did nothing. You are right! Must be the cleaning day 😂
"Man this room is a mess. We can't possibly sing under these conditions"
The conditions for singing don’t include conveniently placed chairs and loud hollow barrels in this basement
Haha, you raise such a great point. Haven’t seen the movie, so I’m not entirely sure what context was surrounding this is (I think she’s convincing them to take action against Magnifico?), but I cannot fathom who story-boarded this and how they pitched it.
“So what are they gonna do in the background?”
“I think we should have them moving boxes.”
“Why?”
“To prepare for…. something?”
YES, like they're singing about revolution but nothing happens to go along with that. It's just showing off colors and such more than anything.
I’ll Make A Man Out Of You is such a bloody good song, in fact the whole 1998 Mulan soundtrack is amazing. How did Disney go from absolute bangers to….whatever the Wish soundtrack is.
I'll Make A Man Out of You is such a hype song and banger that my drill group in Navy Boot Camp sang it to pump ourselves up before performing at Bootcamp graduation. About 15 years after the movie came out. It hits all the right beats and is a banger!
Mulan uses music for storytelling better than any other Disney movie.
A Girl Worth Fighting for is a happy, upbeat song. And then.
They find ruins. The Huns killed innocent people. They find the doll of a little girl.
A girl worth fighting for.
There are no more musical numbers.
Comparing this to 'Hunchback on Notre Damn' songs makes it so, so much worse
It's literally such a classic, I don't understand how musicals have gotten so bad with Disney because the rules and the how-to's of basic musical show and tell seem really obvious if you watch even half of the Renaissance collection. It's not rocket science but they're just not able to do it...
@@awhitney3063They are though. Moana and Tangled did it well. Wish was ruined by greed (The composer was given one week to write the songs, and not enough information on the story)
Genuinely feel like the songwriters were sleep deprived when they wrote this. This feels like an essay i would write late at night...
The one who writes the songs was heard to be given three weeks without much any context of Wish. Just a very vague idea that she likely spent most of the time decrypting
@@yukishiro3287so they were probably sleep deprived
@@anonymousperidot7446 So very likely to the point that they forgot they're supposed to put consistent musicality, rhymes and EVEN GRAMMAR. Memory blackage can occur if someone is very stressed like how you studied a lot before an exam but when receiving the paper, your brain goes blank. But honestly, just how sleep deprived were they to have something so messed up? I mean I think I've heard them saying that it's only a draft but the executives just took it and put it in the movie, likely without properly viewing
I let you live here for free and I don’t even charge you rent
I thing they are writing about things not known yet go treasure hunting get a map and find the clues you don’t give them enough credit! They are more cleaver than you think
The fact that this movie came out MONTHS ago and people are still talking about how absurdly bad it is. Songs, writing, visuals, etc. Just goes to show how hard this movie flopped and how much people care
honestly makes me wonder if it was on purpose to get people talking, since if it had just been mediocre or even pretty good, people would just be like "hey, that was alright" then forget about it, but this is unforgettably bad
But the movie was a failure 😂
tbf, it was supposed to be the huge 100th year anniversary project for disney that basically was supposed to bring back the old magic and add in the new magic... but it failed lmao
I feel like the reason Wish gets so much attention for its mediocrity is because it’s meant to be Disney’s big giant 100th anniversary meant to commemorate the studio’s legacy, yet it’s quality is such a mess. That, and usually Disney’s big musical movies are fun, and even when they’re mid otherwise the songs are catchy and enjoyable (looking at you Frozen 2). Wish’s songs are so bad they help bomb the movie.
It was just... such a dissapointment.
There's something so funny about Knowing What I Know Now sounding more like a villain song instrumentally than This Is the Thanks I Get. Magnifico's song just sounds so upbeat, and then this song feels more in line with a villain song
Honestly we could argue that Asha is the villain in disrupting the literal utopia they got to live in so one could argue it almost worked lol
@@b_w_j They tried to make Magnifico seem like the bad guy for not granting people's wishes that he considered too vague or dangerous. But tbh.. I get his perspective. Like, what if somebody made a wish for humanity to die off with only the wisher being the one who lives? What if somebody wishes someone to fall in love with them forcefully, or wishes for an endless plague on the kingdom of Rosas?
What I'm trying to say is, Magnifico really had a point, but the writers just decided to fully turn him evil cause "waaah, people no get wishies" and just have him possessed by a book
Thank you! I was wondering why “This Is the Thanks I Get”sounded like a hero song and “Knowing What I Know Now” sounded like the villain song, as well as actually agreeing with the “villain”.
Asha is obviously the villain all along. That beech 😂
i wish u guys could understand the difference between a Rally Song and a Villain song. broaden your musical horizons a liiiiiil bit
how either song sounds isnt the issue its the piss poor lyrics. the closest I can think to rally songs off the top of my head rn is This is War by 30 Seconds to Mars. its a bit more uplifting sounding than this but thats an example of what im getting here. big scary drums aren't evil y'all only think that cus of Be Prepared (which uses african style rhythms) and Savages (which is a militant rhythm cus... duh war's breaking out) but other villain songs are pretty darn whimsical or isn't as tough as this song sounds
What We Know Now sounds the way it does cus Asha is taking this hella seriously. Its not a whimsical highschool musical "All in this Together" tune but not defeatist enough to be a sad somber song (ie God Help the Outcast). Its a rally song. While Magnifeco has his head up his ass and is being cocky, hence why its in a more jovial tune. of course I say all this, if only the subtext they clearlyattempted was done properly. but it fumbled so hard. (pisspoor lyrics and rhythm issues)
im not defending wish im just defending how versatile music actually *can* be and it shouldn't be so boxed up like the way you guys end up doing as a means to say why its music is bad ("it sounds evil therefore bad guy" , "it sounds jovial therefore good guy", when either style in either sing is neutral at best and delends in context.) its as frustrating as people saying Thanks I Get is bad cus its in Major key, not all bad guy or even sad songs are in Minor key!
disney execs and other execs see this and this can hurt music in the long run. i sound a bit rude but I'm frustrated with this sentiment that this song sounds villainous when it's not.
i wish i had more examples of "good" songs that sound like this song does...
I thought WISH’s songs were okayish. Until I heard “watch out world here I are!” A line from “I’m a star”. I started seeing, or hearing more of the errors in WISHs songs
That's so wrong that I misread that as "watch out world here I am" at first. You know, a line that makes sense.
I feel like they added in that laid back dumb deer character last minute because they couldn't figure out a lyric to rhyme with "I'm a star" lol. Like they felt the need to justify it because a dumb character is saying it😭
It's like Mfs hired I.R. Baboon as the songwriter
@@Duskool cannot agree more
@@HusnaArtz2 fair enough actually
From a a musical perspective, I like to compare this to We Don’t Talk About Bruno. In that song, each character had their own story to tell and had very distinct verses from each other. It added more personality to their characters
Then they were combined in a single verse
So a madrigal/polyphony
@@oliverdelica2289
The Seven Teens tried so hard to be the next Madrigals, and they failed at it. Thing is, the Madrigals are interesting characters with their own unique, distinct characterizations from one another, and genuinely meaningful interactions. The teens are just… window dressing with no interesting traits from one another.
@@oliverdelica2289 which was amazing, and was a brilliant way to depict chaos in a beautiful way
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossom yes the Madrigals were important to the themes of Encanto
"If not us, then who will fight?
If not now, then when is right?"
- just took a sec to re-write
this is so much better 😭
@@alwaysfttn right!? 🤌😩
Thank you! Fuck!
YES
BARS👏
This song gives Magnifico way too much credit. They act like he's some mass murderer but all he did was steal some wishes that don't even seem to affect anyone that much.
The thing that gets me is Magnifico grants a wish a month. If you assume the average lifespan is 100 years, that's 1200 wishes granted in the average citizens life. If there are more than 1200 people living there, then some people will logically never get their wishes granted. I guess the people there can't do basic math?
@@mac533 Ah, but _sometimes_ he grants an extra wish or 2 per year! Clearly that must be enough to get everyones wishes granted right!?
Let’s not forget everyone gave their wishes willingly. Like, you can also pick not to and just work on granting your own wish but no one did.
Except he didn't even steal them! They gave them over!
That's the biggest issue with the whole movie, the villian is just not villainous at all, he's downright heroic
The problem i had with this number is that they gather woods and such as if they working to build some kind of machine to defeat macnifico, but after the song ends they're like "So, what are we gonna do?" Like seriously??! And all the things they built disappear.
Unlike, in moana "how far I'll go reprise " , she actually repair her ship while singing it and move towards her goal after the song.
Now my headcanon is they've built some senseless constructions just for funsies and they stand there somewhere in the city
I gotta go listen to the soundtrack to Moana as a palate cleanser now.
They don't disappear, they are actually supposed to be building the scale model of the town, I think.
You know what this song reminds me of? It reminds me of when people would do fan-translations of Japanese popsongs, where they'd try to cram an entire sentence into fitting the rhythm of a single word, all because the word was "long".
My head hurts form the all the horrible mistakes in the sings for this movie. Disney, DO NOT hire these songwriters again, they're not worth it.
Apparently she was only given a few weeks and no story context so I think Disney is more to blame than Julia
UUUUUGH YES!! They don’t even bother to take the same concept idea and meaning even if metaphorical or allegorical, and take English words that mean the exact thing to make it simpler and short
I had a friend growing up who loved the English covers of Japanese songs, but I could NEVER get into them exactly because of the word vomit! It always sounded so awkward
@@captainalso3649have you tried listening to trickle’s covers? i think he does english covers really well instead of just doing a direct translation!
@@captainalso3649 Some English covers of songs can sound decent if you don't overload the songs with word vomit.
1. ''Wait till they hear our feet go Dun Dun Dun'' It completely kills the seriousness of the moment. Making them look less like revolutionaries and more like children having a temper tantrum. I would also change ''they'' to ''he''. It's Magnifico you have a problem with. The citizens of Rosas did nothing to them.
2. I don't like how the song stops to just have them make noises.
3. ''Now I'm something else'' Very descriptive. Couldn't come up with a word? There are things called dictionaries if you can't find the right word.
4. It's not about the song but the visuals. Why is there a silhouette of Simon (in the lyric version) if he's not in the scene and doesn't sing? Did Disney think we wouldn't notice?
When asha started singing i loved this part only when the rest wanted to get in 😅
Yeah, I'll drink to that. I also think the "hoo-ha" part sounds really dumb.
Adding onto that, the line "I used to be sweet but now I'm something else" or whatever it was is honestly embarrassing to put in a professional song. It sounds like something I'd say when I was a cringe emo kid in middle school.
3. I don't think there is also a need to precise in songs... It does not mean the song is good though.
@@chairliftphilospher5710 isn't it an euphemism to a certain body part?
You ever have those moments where you're just chilling and you start singing up melodies and making it up as you go along?
That's exactly what this feels like.
Especially when Asha is just… switching between the same two notes so much that she starts sliding hesitantly into some of them like she’s not sure if she wants to break the pattern or not (which happens so damn much in this movie’s soundtrack)
I had those kind of moments, and, it's not like I like what I was creating, but it feels like even that sounded better than Wish' lyrics
I half expected that girl to throw caution to the “not allowed” warning sign
STOP 😭😭
i FULLY expected it. Disappointed.
THEY CANCELLED THE OWL HOUSE AND LET THIS MONSTROSITY BE MADE.
EXACTLY, LIKE WHAT IS DISNEY THINKING
They removed the actually interesting parts of this movie, too!! Starboy could’ve been such an interesting, entertaining character. His interactions and dynamic with Asha could’ve been so sweet and wholesome, too.
@@ButterFlyGardenBlossomikr, her story legit could’ve been her going against the king so he doesn’t lock up her true love away, not cause she was pissy some wishes don’t get granted
I thought Owl House finished?
@harpercore I mean yeah, but wouldn't cancellation be outright abruptly ending a show and not letting it finish at all? Disney totally fucked the show over, but it seemed more they cut it short than outright canceled it. Sorry, if any of that came off as rude, I was just confused on whether the cancellation thing was accurate.
Perhaps we still treated Frozen too harshly.
No we didn't.
No we didn't. Frozen is overrated garbage.
If people as a collective went harder on Frozen, we most definitely wouldn't have gotten this mess of a movie.
I mean, people can hate two things.😈
Frozen is overhated and overrated. It’s not bad, it’s more alright-good. I bet in 10 years people will be bashing on Encanto even though it’s actually genuinely a really good movie
The fact that Sneezy just looks like a blend of Camilo and Bruno Madrigal is a testament to how bland and lazy the character design in this film is
Asha herself looks like a Isabela Madrigal race-changed copy mixed with Rapunzel color and personality.
Edit: her concept art looks soooo much better, the orange dress and the hair were so pretty.
@@l.c.m.7191 i thought that too but i thought i might be crazy. ive never seen the concept art, im gonna go check it out.
@@l.c.m.7191 God, when seeing the concept art for her, with her hair afro textured and short, it made me so sad to see it braided and positioned as if it was easier to have her designed to look like she had straight hair. Really wish they went for an orange or something vibrant like that too, since yeah, first glance she reminds me wayy too much of Isabela
@@bobtheball5384 I remember seeing two conceptual hairdos for Asha that were both super pretty and better than what we got. One was curly and short, combined with a nice headband, and the other was a gorgeous braid. Both were so pretty omg… and yeah, her design really should’ve been orange centered instead of purple.
He looks like the two of them put together and supplemented with the weight of Dolores. Camilo is one of those adolescent giant stringbeans, and Bruno...subsists on biscuits and water.😰😥
Also storytelling wise, imo the song achieves nothing.
Like we get that they’re “fed up yeAH” but not WHY they’re so fed up, Asha never actually explains what they “know now”. It’s a whole song where the hook is about this big realization, never flushing that realization out and never doing a thing to convince the friends to help her. Commit. Fcking. Treason.
Like girl, so far you’ve told me he’s been lying, and that he’ll win if I don’t do anything…
Where’s the threat? Is my home gonna burn, will it be the end of the world, are people gonna die? So far all you’ve told me is politicians are corrupt, which, I knew that already- so, what do you know now that’s such a big deal that we have to fight!
THESE ARE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS!
you've been deceive
A darkenss is coming where is power no ending
The wishes he's now transcending.
Awakening
A old evil that can be
Much worse you'll believe
And truth we'e been told
I love the idea of this song. But the lyrics are so bad.
This is my biggest issue with most of Wish’s songs overall; they just feel so damn empty and pointless in the narrative.
Like “I’m a star.” What do we learn from this song? Everyone is a star, everyone is their own origin story.
What does that… mean? My only guess is that this ties into the whole idea that you can make your own wishes come true without magnifico’s help… but Asha already KNEW that, that’s WHY she made her wish.
THANK YOU for bringing up the fact that Asha is literally committing treason!
Even people who think Asha is in the wrong completely gloss over that she's trying to overthrow the king! The king who literally charges them nothing, grants their wishes, and keeps his subjects safe!
At least it's not "I'm a star", which literally is an empty song that creates more questions than it answers.
Honestly i m starting to understand why me, being bilingual and usually prefering original english media than the translated french versions, prefered the french songs. The French version of knowing what we know now is "Ce n'est plus mon roi" (This (man) is no longer my King) and it just overall has way more personality as a song in the chorus and overall imo. Although still a few problems with the cadence, it evens out throughout the song and i honestly enjoyed it in the theater! I was so shocked i like the french version more than the Og lmao
That's a better title.
*This (man) is no longer my King (you added an extra "no")
@@yukishiro3287 oh oops, i edited it, thank you😅
They probably had more time to rewrite some parts of the song or something
Most of the translated versions of Wish are better than the original. That's really saying something...
The reason this is my favourite songs in the entire movie is solely because of the queen's voice
She killed it ngl
she literally should’ve solo’d that song, and obviously a ton of lyric changes. Then it would be amazing.
@@TheresNoWay.Yeeeessss, having her do a solo number while she watches Magnifico from the shadows/afar as he destroys more and more wishes would have been FANTASTIC. Not to mention help enforce the fact he's supposed to be the villain, so he SHOULD BE DOING ACTUAL VILLAIN THINGS!
Knowing about how Julia Michaels’ involvement was handled, this whole soundtrack makes a lot more sense. I cannot think of a way it could have ended well in those circumstances
I don’t know anything about this, what happened?
@@leanykakicsi6152She was given three weeks and little context on the movie's plot to come up with all the lyrics.
Do an entire breakdown of "I'm a Star" please. I would love your to tear its lyrics apart like "When it comes to the universe, we're all shareholders, get that out of your system! Solar" and especially "I'm a star; Watch out world here I are."
@sparksparkle Not enough. I need a whole video to tear it a new one
🤮Here I are is so gross lol
Ok
1. Your jokes and commentary are SO on point. I legit spit out my cereal laughing at the “Not Allowed” part.
2. Your future Wish videos are guaranteed to be hilarious and I can’t wait (like a full video on I’m a Star hehe especially for the “Watch out World here I ARE” part alone like omg)
3. Having said that, if you ever need a Wish break, there’s always: *ahem* The Scuttlebutt.
Anyways, glad I threw caution to every warning sign and my butt found the subscribe button to your channel. Keep it up! sOLaRR! (ok I’ll stop byeee)
Hahaha omigosh thank you so much!! I'm so glad you laughed lol. (Are you also watching Astor Rhymemaster's videos lol cuz yeah I feel the scuttlebutt thing.) I guess I'm committed to the wish bit now unless something comes out that's somehow more idiotic. Thank you so much for the support I'm so glad you're here! 😁😁
@brainless_mastermind oh my god I knew you two had some sort of correlation (I love Astors vids)
"Magnifico is not the man he claims to be,
He's more vicious than I ever could CONCIEVE"
There's literally a word in the English language that fits the intended meaning perfectly and doesn't break the flow as horribly
INCONCIEVABLE
@@asinicw9906 ayyyeee Princess Bride fan🎉let's go
@@Sarune7893 mAwwIIEEEGE is what bwings US togethaa TOdayyy
also believe. believe was right there
@@Sarune7893 I dunno but the two that always sit with me are the deliveries of "No good, I've known too many spaniards-" and "Throw me the rope."
I want UA-camrs to collectively make more money than Disney on this movie
“If not you, then who? If not now, when?”
- Hillel the Elder, a first-century Jewish rabbi and scholar from Roman-occupied Judea who is currently cringing in his grave over this awkward, awkward song
god the line “i was sweet but now i’m somethin’ else” is making me go insane because
1) who are you?
2) absolutely NO ONE before was doing self-callouts and saying they changed or developed into something in an “i” way, you could even argue that maybe they were but in a “we” way
3) what is she implying? she was a nice person and now she’s gonna kick orphans? magnifico made her and only her change into someone mean?
4) why are we giving HER a spotlight? i won’t watch the movie but she hasn’t even been talked about so clearly she isn’t a major character, why are we shining a light on *her* development
i am just so SO frustrated
Also, good GOSH, they really couldn't find a more specific description than "something else"?
That is literally giving NOTHING on characterisation.
I don't know, say "sweetest hope has set this heart ablaze" to say that her initial sweetness has turned into a loving passionate flame that wants to fight for a better future. Just SOMETHING please!
no fr she does literally nothing the whole movie like she doesn’t even do anything after this!?
I really wanted to see more of the friends! She’s known to just appear out of no where, what if she could be used as a type of spy? Sneak around the castle instead of having the Queen join the group. Since sneezy has a lot of allergies, he would be well known in ingredients and maybe even organic chemistry. There are so many possibilities to add to these characters that is wasted cause “haha funny low voice talking goat”
This is my one qualm with the song!! Like who even is this?? What does she mean shes something else she hasnt done anything different???
like my ai bots write better 😭
I want to know HOW MUCH DISNEY paid Julia Micheals to write these terrible lyrics and why she decided to purposefully make them sound this bad
Haha that's pretty much what I was wondering, until I heard that they basically gave her like a week to write all the songs and didn't tell her the story aha. I wouldn't be surprised if someone turned to AI because they were on a time crunch... But of course, it's all just *speculation* 👀
She was given three weeks and little to no information on Wish's story. No one can produce a good musical from those circumstances. I'm no Michaels fan but she was done DIRTY.
I'm no Julia Michaels fan, but her own songs are MILES better than what she and Benjamin Rice wrote for Wish. She can clearly write well, it was just the terribly shady business practices Disney used.
I honestly pity her to have to work with a project for a big company but don't know what you're even supposed to do. The sort of pressure and amount head bangings just to come up with an idea of what you're supposed to write is unimaginable...
I mean, she still wrote ''A wish worth making'' a beautifully written song. They must've done something really bad in their payment business
The one thing I remember about this song is that when I was watching the movie, some 3 year old in the audience went “uh oh” when the queen came in. One of the only highlights from my time watching the movie.
16:24: Theres another small thing I hate about this line and it's that "too many bad things" feels like something a child would say and it's super vague. Like, "bad things"? you couldn't come up with anything else that means that?
What doesn’t make sense to me in this song is what even is the "bad things" they are talking about? No "bad things" happen in Rosas or at least, we are not showed that - there is no crime, they welcome everyone, you don't have to "pay rent" - the only sad person we see is Simon and everyone else seems to LOVE the King, they give their wishes by their own free will and SHOULD know that only some wishes are granted since is all granted in a public show.
@@l.c.m.7191 exactly, The king lets them live there for free and he doesn't even charge them rent. It felt like they were trying for a morally ambiguous villain like in Encanto, but they ended up deciding against it eventually and just forcing him to be evil for no reason. Magnifico is such an awful villain, especially for Disney
Honestly the queens part is the the only part in any song i enjoyed and yet it still has its flaws which truly shows the state of this movie
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Plus he got corrupted by a evil book, so it's not even his fault
The laziest part of this song that nobody seems to mention is that in the middle of the song, (spoilers?) the queen just WALKS IN.
Why would she just walk in? In that part of the movie, Asha and her friends were in a secret hideout. How does the queen just know that Asha and her friends are there? It feels so lazy and jarring for the queen to just walk in so that she can add in the song 😭 Not to mention, one thing that bothers me about wish is that Magnifico and the queen doesn't seem to have any guards or knights around the palace, not even servants. It feels lazy and strange that a royalty wouldn't have people around in a huge palace, and so when you see the queen walking around, she's not accompanied by any lady in waiting or maids.
WHICH AGAIN--- How did the queen find out that Asha and her friends are in a hideout and where the hideout is if we're never really shown that the queen and Magnifico have any guards/knights/maids???
The Queen likes walking into random buildings to join songs
I'd say it's pretty much just small royalty since Magnifico just built this small kingdom. I don't know exactly how old it is, but I'm assuming just a few decades. It's mostly composed of immigrants. Even if there are certain dangers occuring, I'm assuming that Magnifico could still protect himself because he's a great mage who can do about anything. The queen probably doesn't need one since most of the time, she doesn't go anywhere far from the castle and is mostly with Magnifico. But, I do admit, you have a good question. How did she even know where Asha is? Asha gave her a signal earlier? What if the queen decided to expose her instead? Why would Asha be shocked to see the queen if that were the case?
Well, they weren't exactly being quiet.
@@joelblake5310 It's more confusing how nobody else heard them
the 7 teens (I can't believe I've written this) work at the castle... and that's it. They have only 7 people, TEENAGERS, working at the castle.
13:10 exactly. We are literally looking at Ukraine and plenty of other places with legitimate revolution and they called THIS a revolution? My grandparents were from China (rest in peace) and suffered through the Cultural Revolution where they lost most of their family because Mao decided that merchants and scholars do not deserve to live. And here we have Magnifico who does not require taxes or bribes and voluntarily grants wishes and his crime for eternal torture is… not returning something that was given to him with no expectation of being returned?? What?
Considering how Magnifico grants wishes publicly, you'd think that his policy on granting wishes would be public knowledge. The fact that he doesn't even require taxes makes him better than at least... 80% of every ruler of any country ever. Rosas isn't even implied to have a crime problem or any form of discrimination, and clearly welcomes immigrants from everywhere, so the conflict is just??? Disney is so tone-deaf, it's embarrassing.
Hollywood people live in a bubble chile, in a different, privileged world.
Ukraine is getting invaded, it's not having a revolution but aside from that I get what you're saying. My great grandfather was a food smuggler who helped the Dutch Resistance though he wasn't really a member himself which is the only reason why I'm born as this was before grandma was born. He happened to get caught and because he wasn't a member of the Resistance, just a civilian trying to help them because the Nazis took over our country's food supply as a way to control our people through starvation- he was 'merely' turnt into an example and given a public beating to discourage Dutch locals from aiding the Resistance like he had done. The event happened in my childhood hometown and I saw that spot all the time when I was younger because it's a small town- mom used to call it an 'overgrown village' all the time and my childhood neighborhood had been build after WWII because a bomb that had been left in the area exploded not long after the war ended so they decided to turn construct some buildings to house the people who had became homeless during the war, a history that stained the area forever as the area is currently home to one of the Dutch drug cartels which meant I grew up in the smalltown edition of Breaking Bad and I have scars for life.
I swear so many people nowadays scream oppression whilst having the fanciest lives ever, which is honestly a reflection seen in Wish; that the people who had everything start a revolution and deem themselves oppressed the moment they get told 'no'. I invite them to spend just a month in my old neighborhood and to showcase them they don't even know what it's like to live in the aftermath of oppression, let alone be actually oppressed.
@@inferiorinferno8859 And the kicker is that stories like yours are happening all over the world. I swear, Disney isn't appealing to anybody with the "revolution" message in this movie, except for the trust fundie kids that still like their movies.
@@inferiorinferno8859 I think they meant 2014’s ukranian revolution
The humor in this video is so dry (in a good way) it's actually funny, you got me chuckling a couple of times, good job there
Sometimes, when I try going to sleep, I hear "watch out world, here I are" somewhere in my head and it keeps me up at night.
This actually gives me an idea. This is clearly intended to be a "rally the troops" sort of song, so what if the cadence shifts as it goes along. The emphasis starts on the weak beats, but as they gain confidence and get won over by her argument the emphasis becomes more and more strong. Almost as if you're using the song to tell the story of the musical or something.
Whenever they would repeat the same word in the song, like the “lie, lie, “lie” part, it made me think that they couldn’t think of any better lyrics so they just repeated the same word. They also did it in “this is the thanks I get” where he says “I give and give and give and give”.
Repeating give at least emphasizes how much Magnifico feels like he does for the people. Lie though? It doesn't feel like it emphasizes it enough.
Maybe if the song had more personality or you know, the lie actually had some significance or real betrayal, then I think the repetition would be stronger here. "Saying your wishes aren't safe because of me is a lie lie lie lie" isn't going to resonate with the audience. His system was perhaps unfair, but no more unfair than any other lottery system that the citizens consensually participate in. Sure, I guess he's lying that Asha's making the wishes unsafe in order to rally his people, but so what? It's not that serious of a lie and most people in the audience think Asha's rebellion isn't valid.
If the lie had been something like "Magnifico lied about his backstory. He actually destroyed his hometown and created this kingdom in order to be in charge," then the repetition of lie would be meaningful. Still repetitive in the way it's sung, but at least the lie would matter.
The part were they sung to defeat King Magnifico was comparable to these gacha life music video battles thingy
At least those videos had passion in them, can't say the same about the movie
@@Punk-possum gacha kids have way more passion than a literal studio that created masterpieces 😭
STOP I CAN'T.
....yeah..
😂😂😂
I can practically feel how this song is trying to emulate past musical anthems about children revolting against a higher power. I can FEEL it trying to capture that boot-stomping, angry kids vibe of “The World Will Know,” “Revolting Children,” and “It’s The Hard Knock Life”. The problem, of course, is that these songs feature kids who are ACTUALLY SUFFERING. We have child workers fighting their underpaying bosses, schoolchildren terrorized by an abusive principal, and orphans lamenting their unloved, abused, overworked lives. All this, placed next to…teens who hadn’t even known they were unsatisfied until that day, teens who live a comparatively cushy life where they trade (willingly) their wish for free housing. There is no mention of people actually asking for these wishes back if they leave the city…because no one wants to leave.
The reason they’re just farting around while they sing is because they literally have zero idea how to defeat Magnifico…because there’s no clear thing to defeat. He’s not a corporation you can picket in front of, or a psychopathic leader you need to physically fight to defeat, or a cruel dictator you can refuse to slave for. I guess the whole thing is “release the wishes” but because Magnifico is so underwhelming as a villain, their entire plan is just “make him look the other way while we break into his house and steal his things.” Their biggest issue came from trying to open the gd gate to let the wishes out.
Thus, this whole revolution song falls flat - there’s no preparation or plot moving, there’s nothing to DO. In fact, what it does do well is show how immature this group is. It’s HIGHLIGHTING how little they’re doing, how small the problem seems, because it’s emulating past songs about bigger problems. Where other songs had the kids doing things (planning the strike, rebelling against the principal/work by causing chaos) these kids are in a basement, making shadow puppets. They aren’t inciting violence, or gathering followers, or spreading information. Their worst crime is that they’re kinda being loud, but like…not TOO loud. It’s giving kids at a sleepover whispering swearwords.
I was embarrassed at this scene. They seemed younger than their age, because no matter how angry they sing, they’re still portrayed as youth in a relatively privileged society. Their biggest issue is that their king doesn’t grant every single one of their wishes - newsflash, Disney, that’s the entire world. 99 percent of people will not have their deepest desires realized. This might be hard to believe from the film industry upper-middle/upper class perspective, but 99 percent of the world would absolutely give the ambition they had at 18 if it meant they had housing, food, and healthcare. Jesus, Asha's grandfather lived to 100 and looks 60, who CARES if he never got to play the frigging lute?
I’m starting to get more convinced that this movie was written by ChatGPT 😂
Trust me, ChatGPT would've done a *better* job than what they did
@@Jelid_Officialwas about to comment that. AI at least puts SOME effort into making things, it’s not ridiculously lazy, like these writers, just lacks its own imagination.
Give it an idea tho and by golly will it WORK
Even ChatGBT wouldn't be this bad 😭 It'd have bland lyrics, but I would bet money that it can come up with something better than "here I are!" Just so it could rhyme with "star"
Y'all joke but theres a big chance this is exactly what happened, with minor manual edits after.
@@miavika1074 man ion think the writers were to blame for this one given the concepts that didn't make it into the film, including a Star boy and a villain couple. The whole movie reeks of studio executives meddling with the film more and more until it became this mess. Writers have a lot less creative control than people believe they do and this is why, to shift the blame on them rather than the people they have to take orders from.
You actually said my exact thought about You’re A Star - the first few verses are actually acceptable (bar a few weird lines), but then gets steadily worse until it hits ‘here’s a fun allegory’ where it just completely unravels
Also these lyrics sound like one of those Google Translate parodies that used to be really popular on UA-cam
There's 2 lyrics where it ends with '' And '' The '' Saying that your wishes are not safe because of me and. '' as well as '' And i know i can't do this on my own and '' That's weird! It's like Asha doesn't finished her phrase and imediately said the next one. She is supposed to encourage her friends, not panic and never fisnished her phrases 🤨
it’s really giving the writers tried to do enjambment but didn’t understand how to do it lol
Even that sounds suspicious of Asha and her bad intentions like the damn villain she is 🤨😒
From someone who is classically trained, the term usually used for this concept is “scansion”. Your analysis is spot on though 👍
On supporting smaller, talented artists: Righteous Robot! And his stop motion film: Gruff ! It seems amazing and hes posting it HERE to UA-cam!
Id say spending your time supporting him is a much better investment than wish lmao
Omg yeah, was just watching that trailer a few hours ago and it looks AMAZING
@@peepeepoopoo8416 IKR he's so awesome and his movie looks amazing :0
Yes
You realized how bad the Wish lyrics are when you listen to traslations of the songs in other languages. I'm from Latinamerica and most of the problem with the lyrics have been fixed in the translation to Latin Spanish. This song in particular doesn't suffer from any of the problems you point out in this video, neither do the other songs like This Wish and This is the Thanks I get? Its seems like the translators saw how bad everything sounded and decided to do Disney a favour. So yeah, I totally recommed watching this movie in any other language other than English because it would definitely be a better experience.
7:36 - 8:20
Ace Attorney fans that knows how to draw: SKETCH IT SKETCH IT
God, that IS something Phoenix would, if not say out loud, at least think in-game lmao
okay I might actually have make to make this HAHAHA
but i am a very slow artist so if another ace attorney fan artist wants to get to it first go for it. if not? i'll do it. for you, random youtube stranger.
Hhhh I already have enough of an Ace Attorney project to work on, but this is really funny--
This has made me realize that A Wish Worth Making is the only good song and it’s NOT EVEN IN THE ACTUAL MOVIE!
Edit: At All Costs is amazing but I wish it was like the demo
It has a cool hook, but honestly I feel like it suffers from a lot of the same issues as the ones in the film. I will say the pop context does make me consider the cadence issues to be more stylistic, but there are still lyrics that sound kind of like chat gpt babbling about nothing just to fill space. Honestly, the message behind it does hold some weight for me though and I will give it that.
@@brainless_mastermindWe were still too harsh on Frozen.
@@nicholasdruce5346 yeah this movie makes me want to go back to the days when we thought frozen was the worst thing to come out of Disney
@@brainless_mastermind We need to go back to the days when everyone thought Frozen was the best thing to come out of Disney (because it is one of the best things to come out of Disney)
Ahem… At All Costs
If there's one positive to Wish being as bad as it is, this series is showing me where some of my mistakes are when I'm writing my songs.
It's kinda sad that a beginner like me, who's only in the rough draft phase, is making fewer mistakes than these professionals made. I mean, I at least keep my grammar straight! I'm just having trouble with keeping the lines consistent and not leaning so much on slant/half rhymes.
Oh, same. I don't know anything about music theory and my lyrics are littered with half-rhymes, but even I'm not putting emphasis on the *wrong syllable of a word.* How do you even do that? 😭
I haven't watched hazbin Hotel, but if you listen to the songs, the difference in quality between wish and hazbin is insane. DISNEY managed to fail against hazbin (this isn't meant to be rude towards hazbin or anything. I am just surprised that Disney, a large company that has ALOT of iconic songs, managed to do loose compared to a passion project.)
“Happy Day In Hell” has more of a Disney feel than any of the songs in the Wish Soundtrack.
@@txwtw real
@@GreenBean470 that is actually so true
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@@txwtw real
I also take issue with the ‘so profound’ at the end of Amaya’s line. Like, what is? What was? The love? His evil? Her new understanding of what’s happening? Maybe I’m just dumb but I feel like it was just thrown in there to rhyme
Also the dun dun dun dun and the something else made me physically recoil lol
Nah, that one's easy, it literally comes after "I was fooled by the love I felt"
8:15 THAT’S A LIELIELIELIE.
Diva, we have an idea for a Musical Hell video!
Thats a big one
@@braydenswinhart Musical Hell should review Wish.
*LIE LIE LIE*
hearing that made me wanna die
I swear my first thought to seeing the thumbnail....
"ITS THE MADRIGALS FROM WISH."
Nostalgia Critic: "Welcome to the shitty Madrigals! ☝😃👇"
"Ain't it nice for us to drop in?" is my favorite line in this song
I absolutely love your analysis.
As a translator who is obsessed with musical translation, I've listened to a couple of versions of the song and well... I guess the French did the best job trying to make it into a somehow cohesive song. But boy, oh boy, my native, Polish translation team must have just given up at some point, because the Polish version is even worst than the original when it comes to beats and stressed sylabes, not to mention the rhymes (even the half-rhymes are mostly gone).
0:14 What is she referencing by saying “I had no idea how they treated poor Julia Michaels when they made it”? I looked online for a bit but didn’t find anything, did Disney screw her over in the songwriting process somehow?
Forgot what the interview was about but yes, Disney screwed her over. This is because Disney made her write the songs with only THE CONCEPTS/DRAFTS! There wasn't a plot yet so she really did not know what the hell Wish was about and had only some vague concepts (like love song, wishes, etc) to work with. Plus they only gave her a few WEEKS! to write the songs! It's why they sound like the first drafts then the final product.
@@AUCreatoer I'm months late but thank you sm for actually explaining!!
@@0nmyputer Np! Happy to help :D
I gave up on getting in the industry right away. Not just because it’s very “in group preference” and you have to be a major suck-up to be considered, but even if I got in, I’d have to work on crap like this! Hence, my graphic novel series
"Ready as I'll Ever Be" felt more epic.
Encanto. The last good animated musical Disney has made. Now...there's this...
Encanto is way too recent and I don't think there's been any more between thos and Wish for the point you are making.
Not all movies (especially those from Disney) need to be musicals, this movie would've been better off if it wasn't
@@anar8343 true . Though I wish Disney would focus on making good stories like they used to instead of these remakes
@@tanishamuntslag6369 me too
The queens part of the song is literally the only part that felt slightly cohesive
Really? “I was. Fooled BY the love I felt, so profouuund. Knowing what I know nooooow” felt cohesive?
@@shinigamis_like_apples4797 read my comment again
Hi! Music boy here.
So cadence in music refers to the chord progressions that end sections of a song. You have authentic cadences that end with V-I, half cadences that end in V, etc.
What you're talking about I would probably consider the lyrical meter. Meter in poetry essentially refers to how a line in poetry is emphasized, and it's something you have to pay attention to, and usually why a lot of poetry sucks because people forget it's a thing. If you want to get really into the weeds about it, a meter is made up of feet, and these feet take on any number of forms, like dactyls (BUM bum bum), spondees (BUM BUM), iambs (bum BUM), etc. Really cool stuff to keep in the back pocket. :)
No training, just book nerd- I was going to mention Shakespeare's Iambic Pentameter because that's literally the stress no stress syllable pattern she first references, but I'm glad to find more knowledge about this stuff in the comments.
Just going to casually screenshot so I can figure out how to write poetry better, thank you.
I'm so glad I found this channel lol. Your jokes amd commentary is really good! Keep going!
Making me blush 🥺 lol seriously though, thanks so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed it! Have a great week :)
@@brainless_mastermind Awww thank you! You have a great week too! Looking forward to more videos 🫶🏼
@@brainless_mastermind i dont understand what the brainless master say but i like what brainless master say
Proud of you, stranger! Keep going!
Aw thank you so much! Thank you for watching! :)
So I've been translating Latin poetry here lately. Your constant beating down on cadence really helps me lol
Thats why the cadences in Hazbin sound so good.
If HELL if FOREVER then Heaven MUST be a LIE,
If ANGELS can do WHATEVER and REMAIN in the SKY.
Good pacing, and clever placing makes a song go from 😮💨 to 🥰
You know it’s bad when even Hazbin hotel has better song structures, cadences and rhymes than DISNEY.
@@txwtw
If there's one thing hazbin hotel actually does good in, it's songs! ( ╹▽╹ ) The songs actually tell us about the character and help push the plot forward! (Or try the best they can with the mediocre writing...) (^～^;)ゞ
I like the song it sounds epic but doesn’t work in context. Listening to the song you’d think they were oppressed their whole lives but things only just starting getting bad for them
- I was shy, but now I feel strong
- He thinks we’re nothing, but he’s dead wrong
I don’t know much about songwriting, and even I managed to come up with a better version of “I was sweet, but now I’m something else”
Ummmm no…
The first step to learning good song writing: learning the basics of poetry. Good job covering this topic. I pretty much agree with everything you’re saying.
I have been listening to almost every Disney soundtrack for years and never realized the cadence in “I’ll Make A Man Out Of You” until now. My god I still have a lot to learn.
Just watched the movie and Her Grandpa Wish inspired people to start a rebellion, which is what Magnifico claimed to be dangerous about the vagueness of the wish. It was her grandpa's wish and her actions that caused him to become a "villain" and inspire a rebellion against him.
I'm constantly confused how they made what, for all intents and purposes, was supposed to be a musical, and completely missed the fact that the songs aren't supposed to be expressly "Let me tell you what is happening" beat by beat rehashes of events. Where is the symbolism? Where is the synchronicity? Why are they cramming so much *nothing* into the lyrics?
Honestly how has the writer made successful pop songs? These are a mess. They aren't musical songs. They aren't pop. They just...exist?
welcome to rosas was such an unnecessary song because almost everything mentioned there had been told to the audience by asha 5 mins before💀 like do u not know how an introduction song works?
@@lilac3266 apparently, the songwriter was not given the script :D
just :D
WHAT THE F-
If the film didn't *wish* to be dunked on, it should've not sucked
Why didn't they choose their bests songwritters, like Robert and Kristten (Frozen soundtrack, Remember me from Coco and Agatha All Along from WandaVision) or even LMM (Moana, Hamilton, In the Heighs, Vivo, Tic Tic Boom), to write the songs for THEIR CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION MOVIE?
Or Alan Menken who did the Disney renaissance era. He’s the one who did the songs for Beauty and the Beast
Shocking that they didn’t get Alan to do it when he wrote some of the most iconic Disney songs of all time @@moon7shinev150
Most people kind of hate LMM so people might lose their minds if they knew he was on production.
also princess and the frog
just rewatched that movie after like 10 yrs HOW IS THAT MOVIE BETTER THAN WHAT DISNEY HAS BEEN MAKING RECENTLY
@@aaronbeasley974o no why he’s my pfp
when daria comes in with that heavily autotuned “GET UP” i cant help but laugh
the same in the this wish reprise. “we’LL bE gReAtEr tHan aLl hIs mAgiC…… cOmbIneD😩” like I cant take that seriously.
GET UP YAAH🤖
@@lilac3266 her singing voice irritates me so much I don’t know why 😭 she sounds so whiny
@@txwtw no same and she sounds so much older than the other teens? like it’s much more obvious when singing but it just takes me out of it💀
Timestamp?
Howard Ashman would be rolling in his grave seeing the Wish soundtrack 💀
Discovered you through your first Wish video. This video was an absolute banger! Really loved how you broke down cadence and how the lyrics played into the cadence issues of this song. You have an amazing sense of humor too 😂 some of those edits sent my sides into orbit. I really resonated with your final point, as someone who studied music in school but is working in engineering now because the opportunities just aren’t there. I subbed to your channel after watching this video - we really need to support creators like you.
One counterpoint I have to your point about other writers writing far better movies than Wish on the daily is, I’d personally extend far more charity to a creative writer than I would to some ghoulish studio exec, and to me, the problems with Wish seem to stem far higher up the chain than just mediocre writing. Like, I think about the original concept ideas of having a villain couple and Starboy being Asha’s love interest, and I think about how much better of a movie we would’ve had if those ideas made it to the final product. We could’ve had the power of love be used for both good *and* evil, for instance. It’s one hell of an idea for sure, so I do think that the writers and animators behind this movie are quite talented and can at least come up with good ideas. So it’s hard for me to believe that the same creative staff would look at a talking goat and a Luma copycat and think those are better than their original concept. Rather, I think the studio executives pressured the movie to be as SEO-optimized and marketable as possible, scrubbing any last sense of creativity down the drain. And this creative bleaching leeched into the songs as well. I don’t think the songwriter for this movie thought she was doing her best work - hell I’m willing to bet they told her “just copy Moana, here’s 3 weeks”. And under these conditions of systemic rot, I really don’t know if *any* writer would be able to turn out something decent. That’s just the state of modern Disney in my mind. Now if you don’t mind me, imma go watch Spider-Verse again for the 10th time. (Side note, if you ever decide to dive into the musical side of that movie with all its leitmotifs, I would watch the SHIT out of that video)
Wishing you all the best for your UA-cam journey! I’ll be here to watch it unfold 🙌
oooh so cadence (how you explained it) and unnatural cadence is kinda what Megamind does in his speech! Except it makes him special and fun, he's a SUPER villain after all.
With Megamind it makes sense as he’s from another planet so his English isn’t going to be 100 percent perfect
@@txwtw yes that is what i meant, when he does i it's fun and adds o his individuality also shows even more hat he is not from there, much like any accent does show where someone is from. In this case it's jus bad and a disservice to the song.
@@txwtw - I thought it was more because he was raised and educated in jail, so he didn't necessarily learn how to pronounce some things correctly. Metroman is also from the same planet and doesn't have trouble pronouncing the same words that Megamind does. There is also an implication that he's doing it on purpose: recall the scene when he has captured Roxanne near the beginning of the movie. She remarks on the spider. He says "spider" normally, then as he starts to villain monologue at her again, he pronounces it "spee-eye-der."
The mastermind is back! great to see the return
Aw thanks! It's great to be back 😎
It sounds like they're trying to make Lin Manuel Miranda songs with all the shoehorning and awkward cadence, but they don't know what they're doing. It's why they are ending lines with "and." It's like the song isn't written in iambic pentameter to begin with and they are just putting music to a first draft and no one is reading it out loud before recording.
Mom, can we have Lin Manuel Miranda?
No, we have Lin Manuel Miranda at home.
The Lin Manuel Miranda at home:
The movie would be significantly better if Lin wrote the soundtrack for it
I unfortunately did spend money to watch this with my 4 year old daughter at the cinema. I don't know anything about writing music, but from a layman's perspective I can say that not a single one if the songs impressed me or had me humming the tune afterward. They were all just so forgettable.
But the thing that got me most was the sadness of it all. The best of Disney is decades old now. I really wanted my daughter to be able to grow up with great, impactful Disney movies like I did as a child.
My daughter likes Frozen and Tangled, and will watch those on repeat. The latest films, including this one, bore her within 5 minutes - and she LOVES princesses - so I think that says something.
I had a sort of similar experience because we (my family) went with friends to go see it and I agree wholeheartedly about the forgetfulness of the songs
The only one that I will hum for a bit is the chorus of "This Is the Thanks I Get" because it's upbeat and SO REPETITIVE. But the song itself is a nothing burger like the rest.
that song feels like a dj that keeps building up the beat but never drops it
All the songs in this movie sound like the music came FIRST and then was layered haphazardly onto pre-existing story beats. It's kind of an odd change from the lyrics informing the story and the theme informing the music. This is like someone rapping to a karaoke track of a pop song without any prep.
For the lines with the rushed syllables, it felt like they were trying to imitate Lin-Manuel Miranda and his fast-paced style of lyricism, like you'd here in Hamilton or Encanto. But his style is very distinctive and VERY hard to replicate.
My mom when talking about this song says "they put the wrong emPHASis on the wrong sylLABle"
We can’t forget about that one line from “I’m a star.”
“WATCH OUT WORLD HERE I ****ARE****”.
Idea: instead of a zooming background, maybe try something like a slowly scrolling loop background? It has a way slimmer chance of triggering motion sensitivity.
I don’t even think it needs to move. It would work perfectly if it stayed still cause the videos move plenty.
A black screen would be ok, now I'm feeling dizzy I couldn't watch it without breaks, And I'm not even that sensitive 😢
My mom: Did you floss your teeth honey?
Me: Uh, yeah.
Meanwhile, my brain: *THAT'S A LIE LIE LIE*
19:02 _”Don’t let your money go to the capitalists.”_
Capitalism’s only a tool, to be used for good or evil. The real problem today is corporatism: soulless committees that monopolize the tool to create equally soulless art, while locking truly creative people out to limit their competition. I wholeheartedly agree we shouldn’t pump our hard-earned money into Disney. Thousands of struggling indie artists out there deserve a little of that capitalism way more than these mega-corporations do.
Fr. People blame capitalism as a whole for our current consumerism problems, when the real issue is greed and corporate worship. Like with all tools, if we use this one for good, we can allow all of the talented and passionate people who are currently being screwed over by the industry to get the success and growth they deserve.
She really needs to educate herself on that topic.
You realise that "corporatism" is part of capitalism, right? That a system where someone can own the means of production while having no hand in making the things produced inevitably results in a disconnect between the rich owners and their employees, which results in sterile, safe investments being favored over risky passion projects?
"Cow goes moo, sheep goes baa, *FEET GO DUN, DUN, DUN-"*
Okay, you got me there, that one was funny 💀
THANK YOU! When I heard Knowing What I Know Now, I always felt like something was not quite right with the lyrics and beat placement. I'm no music expert so I couldn't really tell what it was but something about it just did not sound as planned and well put-together as other songs I have heard before.
When it comes to the opening line
"You've been deceived
Magnifico is not the man he claims to be"
You can might as well make it
"You've been deceived
Magnifico is not at all what you've believed"
Boom,easy fix!
Honestly if the song and story was re-written, this could’ve of worked as Asha being a princess, rebellion song against both the king and queen’s evil plans.
The group of seven could be considered “traitors” to the kingdom who princess Asha bands together to create a revolution group she assembled to fight against her parents plans and to save the kingdom (and Starboy)
10:40 Good on her for throwing caution to that warning sign. 👍
Here, lemme just... *Tapes a warning to a hazard sign* thereeee we goooo all betterrrr
I like the line "I've seen him show his true colors in shades of green"
Because green is always the evil color of Disney.
But I'm probably just looking too deep into it
I don't think Mastermind was complaining about the line so much as how the singer pronounces "colors."
I wish I could post a gif here of someone looking all starry eyed and happy cuz listening to all this music breakdown and theory just warms my heart
Your little rant at the end got to me. As someone who aspires to work in film one day, it was a throat punch to remember I will likely not matter in the industry.
I'm by no means a musical expert (much less an expert in the English language), but I believe that a better alternative to the lyric of 07:34 could be: "That's an absolute lie".
That way, we avoid repetition, and emphasize the fact that Asha is being falsely accused of... Whatever happens in the movie (haven't seen it, and I don't think I'll ever do so).
I'm aware that I'm not making any award winning or revolutionary discovery, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents about an extremely specific line that, whenever I hear it, makes my gears grind each other in an attempt to pulverize themselves by friction.
It would be really cool to see a group of creators like you get together and try to "rewrite" some of these songs. Watching this video I thought the base instrumental part of this song was pretty cool, but the lyrical rhythm and cadence feels so disconnected and confusing.
Hell yeah
“That’s a lie lie lie lie” SENT ME 8:17
This does give me hope for me and other small creators that we really don’t need billions of money or the best actors but your skill and your creativity is all you need
TO DEFEAT… THE HUNSSSSS ugh I just had to finish it I love Mulan’s songs