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ToneX for Bass Guitar
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- IK Multimedia ToneX on Bass
I've just grabbed a Fender MIJ Precision Bass with Seymour Duncan Antiquity ii
ToneX seems to be all the rage with Guitar Amp captures so I thought it would be a good opportunity to try out its bass capabilities
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00:00 - Intro
00:38 - Gainstaging
01:15 - Ampeg SVT 2 Pro
02:32 - Acoustic 360
03:05 - SWR 750X
03:42 - Darkglass Vintage Clean
04:20 - Hiwatt
05:16 - Orange Thunderverb Clean
06:00 - Orange Thunderverb Dirty
06:38 - Submission Audio PunkBass
09:50 - Thoughts
ToneX has given some great Bass results but I'm going to try it across other platforms. I have access to Fractal FM3 / AxeFX3 / Sansamp / ToneHub / Amplitube 5 and some other software sims.
I will also be keen to test this out on a Kemper and Quad Cortex to see how it holds up against the others. If you have any suggestions about tried and tested Bass Rigs for a Fender Precision Bass then let me know!
If you have any gear or software demos you want me to take a look at just comment or email and I can chuck it on my list.
Thanks for watching!
- Nathan
Just ordered my ToneX yesterday and I'm absolutely stoked to see Darkglass amps in there! Can't wait to fiddle with it when it arrives!
I think it does an awesome job at bass tones, should be a winner
nofx Stickin’ in My Eye at 4-20 , ehehehe almost there , you have good taste :) congrats. about the pedal sounds nice
Came to comment on that riff!
Same!
Yeah, man! NOFX!
Sick sick tones!!!! I just got one for $260 from pro audio star. Love your tones and riffs.
Yea, I’d say the 2 Orange captures are worth the price.. thx for post this 🤙🏽
Should look into Acoustic Bass amps; it was the solid state alternative to the SVT back in the 70s; cool amps
The name does vaguely ring a bell but yeah well worth a look!
@@ampspedalspickups It was matched with a huge folded horn that sounded great,if you were 100 ft.away.
Had a bass player in a band that had the model with the Graphic EQ on the front panel. Acoustic Solid state great for Huge LOUD very Clean tones, they were one of the 70's best, Really don't know why they faded away. Some other unusual ones would be KUSTOM amps used by Creedance/CCR, the early Hybrid Peavey's used by Lynyrd Skynyrd. SUNN amps, even hendrix used those for a spell. Music Man late 70's Hybrid again amp. Legend amps. in the early 80's. Ampeg is the one old Survivor along with Fender Bassman amps. Gibson amps from the 50's/early 60's. Silvertone's. MAGNATONE's.
@@ksharpe10 Most of those you mentioned were good amps, albeit heavy as they tended to be in the day. I think the drawback with Acoustic was the huge and extremely heavy folded horn cabinet.It sounds good,but at a distance
@@ksharpe10 nice rundown! I never pay 101% to bass rigs but pretty much all I ever saw at studios were ampeg, fender and mark bass amps. The mark bass stuff seemed to really take off. Either way tonex is a pretty solid choice for these tones, makes my hunting a lot easier 🤘
While playing SVT model, says he wants "that basic, classic bass tone... the punk tone, the rock tone, the metal tone" ...plays several other captures, tweaks absolutely NO settings... comments he's found "nothing unique just yet" because he needs something with "a bit more distortion or saturation." Really, man?!?! The SVT with 8-tens CREATED that saturated bass sound!! Any other amp that's going for that sound is just emulating the fridge. Pull up the gain if you want more saturation... tweak the EQ... If you want "punk, rock, metal", the SVT is what will give it to you! Geddy Lee, Chris Squires, Flea, Les Claypool, Pino Palladino, Tim Commerford from Rage Against The Machine, Jason Newstead from Mettalica, Rex Brown from Pantera, Ben Shepherd from Soundgarden, Sergio Vega from The Deftones, Rick Savage from Def Leppard, Adam Yauch from Beastie Boys... the list goes on....
I need something with more hifi, not clicky, but having that bass amp snap that you get from an amp in a room, for that slap tone. No dull distorted farty stuff
Have a look at NAM and ToneHunt.org there might be some cool free tone profiles to check out
John Entwisle/the Who probably used every Bass rig ever imagineable. Used Hiwatt for a short spell. Checking out his amp. history and maybe Geddy Lee/Rush, and Chris Squire/yes for what they used. But honestly me not being a bass player, the 2 Orange ones you sampled would probably cover 80 to 90 percent of most Bass players. Now maybe with Death metal they might go even more GAINY, but bass players usually are looking for CLEAN Sounds. I would imagine a band with maybe 2 high Gain guitar players and then a High Gainy Bass player might be a Sound mess in the making, but only my Humble opinion.
Can you add more than one bass amp at the same time , detune sim ?
Inside of tonex no. But in reaper I can duplicate the track and run 2 instances of tonex and then eq/blend them both to taste and make an “overall” bass track. No detune either but you can run a detune plugin before tonex as well. I use a fractal fm3 and have also run detuning through there into tonex and that works well as well, any detune pedal will be fine into your interface or tonex pedal.
The green is trace eliott
Mark King sold more trace eliots than he got credit for :)
Acoustic 360. Jaco.
And I bet he used one with the Graphic EQ on the front panel as well. They were GREAT AMPS.
Honestly, if you’ve never heard of an Acoustic bass amp, then you probably shouldn’t be doing a review on a bass amp modeler. They’ve been around for a long time. I checked out as soon as you said that.
Thanks for watching!
Mimimimimi. Get a life.
That’s b.s. Sure, Acoustic amps have been around for a long time, but they are hardly popular in modern times. Not everyone is ancient like us. 😂 Knowledge of ancient amp brands is irrelevant to being able to have an opinion of good sound.
So your mixing a fake bass track with your real bass track? How are you going to accomplish that live?
Mixing a virtual bass with real bass is a studio thing not a live thing. A large portion of bands play to automation and backing tracks these days so it’s not out of the question, but it would still just be something you do on recording for reinforcement.
@@ampspedalspickups I completely understand, just seems like your setting yourself up to let the audience down when the band sounds nothing like the album live.
@@ampspedalspickups Backing tracks of the entire bands instrument parts? Like just playing instruments along to a fully mixed pre-recorded track live? Lol
There’s two things here
1) The amount of studio tricks that are used are massive and go unnoticed to the general public. Layering instruments and sounds is totally normal. Reinforcing a real bass with a virtual bass is super tame. A random example of studio tricks is to create a drum “live sound” a person can program drums, blast it over their speakers and record that sound in the room with a pair of mics, then blend those mic back into the original drum sound for reinforcement. The amount of things that go on are endless.
2) Backing tracks live are insanely popular. Yes whole rhythm guitars, synths, vocal layers you name it they’re being used. I haven’t personally heard of anyone using a bass track live but anything is possible.
I wouldn’t get caught up over what’s being recorded not being 100% the same as live because they’re two different beasts. When we talk about guitar and bass tones studio tones and live tones are also a thing, they’re to be dialed in differently… so yeah layering a bass is really small fries in the grand scheme of things
@@ampspedalspickups I guess it really depends on the type of music.