Destiny 2 Lore - We should really stop the Witness from conquering these 5 places...
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- Destiny 2's Lore and Story tells us about certain locations around the system that we must not let the witness control! From The Glassway portal to Volantis 2082 to the Dreadnought that's still holding in Saturn's Orbit, these 5 places must be defended from the Witness or we're in dire trouble!
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If the witness takes Nessus, I hope failsafe becomes a disciple of the witness. The ultimate raid boss, she kills us with edgy sarcasm
I don't think that'll happen however.
Maybe failsafe is gonna be able to get an exo body like rasputin, since the exodus project was braytech wasn't it?
@@WayneRoberts72 sadly😭
One personality joins the witness, the other stays on our side. The thing is, it's the peppy one that joins the witness.
@@Broken-cassettes that would be just our luck
I'm more concerned about the Infinite forest. The Witness could realistically use it and his knowledge of paracausal powers to improve the forests capabilities and possibly be able to predict Guardians.
Pretty sure brother vance closed the gate before the darkness took mercury
Even if it's open, the reason the infinite forest was potentially able to predict us was Peneoptes. He's gone. Currently the Ved don't have a mind powerful enough to fully utilize the forest. Obviously they could introduce another uber powerful Vex out of nowhere but that isn't likely since we don't have any foreshadows of one.
That's the thing about paracausality.....it expressly prevents prediction under any possible circumstances. It's like the speed of light, it is immutable and there's nothing you can do to circumvent it.
@@williameldridge9382 the vex have shown that given infinite time they can actually simulate paracausality, so far in 2 occasions, panoptes the mind that controlled the initiative forest could do it on a macro level and was working to plot the galaxy down a path that would end with the destruction of light and darkness and on a personal level when they created a mind that’s sole purpose was to simulate saint 14 and in the process strip him of his light in the crusade he took into the infinite forest
So paracausality doesn’t expressly prevent prediction it’s just a bitch to do and if the vex, non paracuasal beings,can do it given time I bet the witness could do it as well
Have you seen player Guardians? These jackasses yeet themselves off pvp maps because of reasons, break the laws of the world via broken item combos and dance in the middle of boss battles simply because we can. We'd basically break the witness with pure anurisms from sheer stupidity.
Like how the dread-naught was barely scratched by one of the most powerful weapons at the awoken's disposal.
and then the cabal just flew into it.
Those drop pods are OP
@@Flamme-Sanabi its how we'll beat the witness, this is why we need caiatl
@@Ahnock massive drop pod
"hyper advanced super space bullshit weapons are good and all but have you tried B R U T E F O R C E?"
@@jar-of-bees Yeah, but in a world where beings wield supernatural powers for good/bad and use magical weapons and what not, the opposite of that would be physical. The Cabal have survived this long by using just that so obviously it's working. Think about when you're playing the game. Let's say you have no way of taking out a large group at once. You get rushed by a large group of just about any other red bar enemy. You will more than likely mow them down and possibly have your shields dropped at least once. You get rushed by a large group of Phalanx Cabal hiding behind each other's shields and shit, and they're likely to wear you down with their weapons and/or take you out with a shield bash. That's brute force.
Byf: list 5 places of logistical/tactical value for Vanguard
Witness: rubbing hands while watching video
Inspired by Hellsing Abridged.
Viewer: BYF! The Whitness has learned of our plan!
Byf: Thats the plan! Now that he knows our plan we can plan around their plan thus hell plan around our plan and well plan around their plan!!
Imagine Bungie just plants seeds, let's the fans debate how they'll grow. Then picks the most dramatic to follow up on.
Witness watching this viedo ''Noted''
@@nathanabel8169 The glaive was in development before Beyond Light launched. That was over 1 year before we saw the glaive.
If they work that far back for just a single weapon type, then how far back do you think they have the story?
If these places aren't already part of the plan then the most that they _might_ do is put in a lore entry talking about some of these places.
@@mtndew314 I'm aware. I just like the meme of them reacting to us reacting to them.
Byf talking about tactical advantages etc. Maining Titan instead of Warlocks this season turned him from Researcher to Tactician.
@Urazz Team Punch-A-Bunch FTW!!!
What will Byf become if he ever mains as Hunter for a Season?
@@dynojackal1911 A deadly weapon
@Urazz Keep in mind Titans have written books, big ones, the mail room frame complains when they have to move those books.
@@VayaKahvi Kadi needs an assistant
Another shout out to Brother Vance and Asher Mir for keeping Vex tech from the Witness. Big heroic moments for both of them, for sure.
I feel like a being like the witness that potentially has been around since the beginning of time in destiny does not need vex tech though. Granted the Vex were born from the game played by the darkness and the light and are essentially a cancer on the universe.
Come the think of it the vex are starting to feel like a complete joke vs how ominous they seemed at the very beginning
Oryx Literally took a whole vex mind and had an army of vex. And then passed it to his sister. If the witness wanted vex tech, he would have it. He’s subjugated an infinite number of civilizations.
@@ForTheViolence kinda highlights how ignorant and potentially hopeless we are to the Witness. Humanity and the traveler couldn't handle a fraction of pyramids, what hope do we even have
@@seeker_rodan3113 6 guardians managed to take care of one pyramid, we have hope that we can repeat such successes.
Asher will come back with a full army of Vex to fight the Witness, mark my words
Imagine if Toland could take the Throneworld of Oryx, I'd kinda dig it.
My game theory is, there is a guardian oryx is wandering around in the system outside of the lucent brood
Imagine if Toland is the villain of the saga after Final shape. He’s more of a neutral force when it comes so the Witness vs the Traveler, but still deals with paracausality.
@@fsmith45 I kinda wanna see OP evil eris morn, I mean in her timeline she dominated savathun and brought her under her control something that even the witness and rhulk couldn't do
@@shaynethegmann would explain kings fall coming back
Hey! That’s mine!
From what I understand, larger stars typically begin their death throes as they begin to fuse lighter elements into Iron. This quickly spirals out of control as the energy released from this fusion is not enough to support the massive pressure being exerted by gravity, as the star eventually collapses, and then explodes.
The Vex have essentially managed to exploit this heavy fusion, and keep the star 'afloat' while also siphoning energy and raw materials directly from its core. That Forge Star is insane.
To be precise, there's some form of equilibrium between the sun's energy and the gravitational force squishing it. But fusion reaction eats through the supply of lighter elements available until iron is created, which is an element that can't be used for fusion reaction anymore. As the star begins to run out of fuel to produce enough energy to push against gravity, that's when it begins to die.
they're probably using a technique called starlifting, where you use powerful magnets to basically squeeze the star. that siphons off a small amount of its matter each time, which you can then harvest, and making the star smaller and keeping it from getting to the red giant stage keeps it alive longer.
Say that in the final shape, the Traveler and the Witness waste each other or something. Maybe light and darkness are still elementary forces in the universe, but the entities are absent, idk. But pretending that's the case, I would say the Vex are an enemy far greater than the Hive, Cabal, Fallen, Scorn, and any remaining Taken combined. I honestly think that us having paracausality would be the only thing that actually makes the playing field level against them.
They can teleport (though so can the hive with dark magics), see into time, build and modify worlds in hours, and probably have a huge legion in reserve/production. The Vex are the "vex milk" covering the area beneath the forge star, and all they need is a chassis to inhabit, which can be quickly manufactured too. I'm surprised they haven't just made regular assaults on the Last City in numbers far greater than the Battle of Twilight Gap.
@@Devmode_Nunchaku I think they got PTSD from when saint-14 single handedly ripped them a new one as he fought them for a literal century in the infinite forest before eventually dying
@@frasergriffiths1151 and then he got better
the thought of the Witness having control of ANY of our worlds is startling in the extreme.
Didn't the witness take control of Mars, Mercury, Io and Venus?
@@whateverman2137 it did, and most of these are extremely concerning, as they contain the tree of silver wings' sucessor, a giant vex prediction engine etc.
@@whateverman2137 they certainly took them, but I mean having full, total control of the secrets!
@@whateverman2137 titan not venus
But it doesn’t matter
I hope we finally get not-mediocre content in the Black Garden, It's the coolest place in Destiny
I also remember Calus saying something about the Vex we see being "mere managers"
I'd love to see the "executive" vex sometime in Lightfall or The Final Shape, or maybe have a portion of the next saga dedicated to that very premise
I can't fathom what a vex frame designed for combat would be capable of, and considering the near unlimited power of creation of a forge star, we could be facing an army of vex as powerful as panoptes
@@eliaspanayi3465 Panoptes was still more of a computer. I believe the Wyverns are the first vex "attack" frames
@@eliaspanayi3465 wyverns are the first vex "attack frames", which i dont think calus knew about when he said that line. Yhe minds, including panoptes, are all what calus considers manager's, as they exist primarily to manage the vex network, and a lot of there power comes from the network they manage. Panoptes was as powerful as he was because of the infinte forest, a feat the vex can't really replicate or put onto the field. Atheon, another powerful mind, is similar, being part of the vault of glass, which is very near the heart of the vex network.
Bassically, the strongest vex we are ever going to see fielded as a part of a proper combat force would be bassically a big wyvern, which isn't that scary all tjings considered
@@xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 like in terms of actual astrophysics?
because the answer is no.
A black hole has no volume, therefore solid or liquid matter can't exist within it (the 'black' 'part' of a black hole is just the location within the event horizon, not an actual part of the mass
@@xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 black holes aren't the best method. If you could get a ship up to relativistic speeds, i.e. a solid percentage of the speed of light. You would see a time dilation effect, basically time moves slower for the people aboard so it's arguably a way to time travel.
I never thought I would hear anything about the Grey Knights in a Destiny lore video, but that's actually really interesting to think about.
Also, just the thought of our Guardian in Terminator armor is just freaking awesome!
He has brought up little references here and there, but this is the first time he has gone into any depth about Warhammer in a video.
nah, gimme a contemptor pattern dreadnought chassis, i would make rylanor proud.
or, give my exo warlock control of her own imperator-class titan, channel the spirit of mohana mankata vi and bring the wrath of the machine god down upon those who would stand against holy terra.
A silent god rests on earth, empowering humanity to defend itself from alien agressors.
It's chosen few weild great technology and know no fear.
Am i talking about the Traveller or the Emperor?
Read about Sloan's final stand on titan. She is the definition of "Rip n Tear until its done"
Tbh the destiny and 40k universes are quite similar in their fantasy/sci-fi themes with the multiple races and factions and the nonstop war and destruction it’s just that the main difference is that 40k is a lot darker and larger in scale.
It would be cool if: “ the traveler is a prison, waiting for us the debilitate it’s prisoners allays. Its gives us power than can grow stronger with every foe we defeat. Waiting for us to eliminate every outside treat before releasing out final foe that it helds inside.
I have a feeling this guy just predicted something.
I had a similar theory about the traveler being some sort of cocoon which will eventually open up near the games finale.
@@dinklberg3065 It would explain why the bastard moves on from races after a while, he deemed them unworthy for the final test and stripped them of their light.
@@Saintbow no other race has had Light, only Humanity
@@Clarity2188 wrong
The new audio setup sounds amazing!
Totally!
Yeah omg
Yes its definitely way better so crispy and clear!
Xivu Arath is still unaccounted for. My guess is the Witness will use her as a lieutenant to command the taken and any hive not loyal to savathun.
To an extent it already does, with the whole constant troubles between the lucent brood and Xivu's forces with the witness pulling the strings
@@wavv4365 not to mention the Scorn teaming up with the Hive and Taken in Season of the Lost. I’m guessing Xivu Arath is now pretty much the supreme general of the Witness’s armies, if not an outright disciple already.
@@ShawndaPrawn i agree i believe she already has that position
@@ShawndaPrawn Yeah, with Savathûn's betrayal Xivu would effectively be the highest ranking servant of the Witness short of the disciples (or on an equal field to the disciples depending on how you look at the dynamic between Savathûn and Rhulk)
*TEXT WALL INBOUND*
Since this season has introduced a “mini-destination” with the Haunted Leviathan…I’d say it’s fair bet to suggest we may two new mini-locations for the next seasons.
And I think those locations that will tied to potential Disciples for the Witness.
Two of those potential Disciples are Eramis and/or Clovis Bray - 1. Which means it’s likely we may see a new mini-location on Europa.
What might that location be? Volantis? Nefele Stronghold? Who knows.
However, Europa seems like a safe bet for where the story goes next.
*Addendum*: It’s possible Oryx’s Dreadnought may return as mini-location like the Leviathan. But where and why, is the question. Perhaps a resurrected Savathûn would make an alliance, convert it to the Light, and use against the Hive in the final battle. No doubt Xivu Arath would also want to take it for herself.
If thats the case and we fight the fallen next season, we may get WotM as the reprised raid
I'd also like to see savathun turn io into a 'war moon' that I remember hearing in the lore.
"The Taken King will return".
It was one thing Savathun said in her little game of two truths two lies. If it is a truth, we may find some info in the Dreadnought. Or any lead... plus excuse to bring back King's Fall Raid :^)
@@MaskOfLimbo I'm inclined to believe that Savathun's "two truths, two lies" thing is ALL lies. She's the queen of lies and deception, after all. Why should we believe a known liar when she says "everything I say is a lie except THIS thing"? And she makes so many future predictions that some of them HAVE to be right (a stopped clock is right twice a day), so that's her validation of "truth".
Ana/Rasputin/Europa/Eramis plot needs to happen this year. Been getting lot of hype, plus wouldnt be surprised if Taniks is revived as an AI
The EDZ and the shard of the Traveler was a great point! If the shard does end up playing a major role in Lightfall/The Final Shape it would be a nice way of bringing things full circle in Destiny 2.
Maybe then we’ll be able to use the world pool without glitching
During the Red War, the shard gave us our Light back. During Warmind, we took a piece of the Shard as bait to lure out Xol. During Forsaken, Uldren took another piece of the Shard to open the portal to the Dreaming City. Hell, in D1, the Hive got their hands on another shard and tried to use it in a ritual to drain the Traveller’s light. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came into play again. Since the Shard is apparently corrupted or something, I’d imagine the Witness would attempt to weaponise it or something. Fight fire with fire, that sort of thing.
The fact that byf brought a short and sweet story of a piece of warhammer absolutely made my day!
and of the Grey Knights no less a welcome surprise!
Yay for 40k!
@@dylangodley3040 hey grey knights
Woof woof.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
@@darthbanaan6582 hey Angron
Logan Grimnar.
I feel like next season King's Fall will be the returning raid, except this time we'll be going after an Echo of Oryx trying to take the Dreadnaught for the Witness
(Wouldn't be the first Echo of a raid boss, we already got the Echo of Riven in the Witch Queen campaign)
Raids are moments in time like Strikes, they won't change the Raid or it's narrative setting, it will "just" be Kingsfall with some mechanical updates, it won't "fit" into the current narrative at all.
That wasn't riven it was just a random Ahamkara
If we are going with a theme then it could be Wrath of the Machine with a revived Eramis and House Salvation striking back against The Last City and House Light. Lots of Eliksni storylines to wrap up.
@@horrorfan117 honestly I feel the house of light will betray us due to the traveler giving light to the hive. They will then try to take Rasputin and destroy the traveler leading into light fall. Hence the fall of the traveler and the house of light.
Well... about that returning raid
When Byf said that if the Witness were to get its hands on the Nine I was thinking of Xur giving it some sweet exotics.
When the Witness finally makes its appearance in Sol I’m really hoping we get Mass Effect levels of hopelessness I really want to see humanity suffer defeat in every corner of the system to the point where we question if it’s even worth resisting. We’ve been a powerhouse to all of our enemies for years now I’d be disappointed if the Witness turns out to be just another big bad that we kill easily. (Lightfall to final shape is where I hope to see a lot of losses on our end)
I disagree.
@@tertiaoptio4938 why's that
It should already be the case but the darkness is irrelevant
It depends on how you look at it, from another perspective we're always on the back foot, barely defeating these enemies before they destroy us. The darkness has already "taken" several planets effortlessly, a pyramid ship has already been in our backyard without our knowledge.
I agree we have been able to just defeat everyone with no problem but we can't run into something stronger than us and we shouldn't suffer defeat?I hope it happens
Y'know, I just had a thought while watching this. Doesn't the description of the nines Darkmatter seem awfully close to the nature of the egregor? It's everywhere around us, made of dark energy, and can't last without us. Sure, Dark matter doesn't feed off our thoughts and fears like egregore does. But maybe the egregore is just a manifestation made using darkmatter. Like molded clay.
*Leonard DiCaprio pointing meme*
28:20 I think you've got that backwards. Time passes more slowly in the black hole, not for us outside of it. Time relatively stops, actually, at the event horizon. So, when you say "1 minute for us, is 100 years for them" (29:20)... is the reverse. 1 minute for THEM is 100 years for US.
Very true. Would that mean then, that Mara is "old" in our years, but "young" in Distributory years?
Well I believe in Destiny it’s different. Mara did live for potentially millions of years while much less time passed in Sol. It’s like inside the singularity, time is sped up yet nothing seems to age. Maybe entering the black hole reverses the effect on time?
I'm glad someone else picked up on this. Byf is just reading the lore though so you can't fault him for having it backwards. I reckon it's just an oversight from whoever at Bungle wrote the lore for the Awoken, like they knew that immense gravity causes time dilation, but didn't realise that gravity actually slows time instead of speeding it up.
One interesting thing about the shard of the traveler is the black clouds behind it noticeably are shaped like pyramids, And they always have been, So it's possible the shard is being directly looked upon.
oh that shard is 100% getting disappeared
I understand questioning where we should defend against the Witness, but has anybody questioned, whether we wanted it or not, should we step into a war with the Witness on Mars? Should we break their grip on freehold?
Imagine you see some D1 Cabal vets roaming around Mars with old armor still on that has no idea the Red Legion is there
We’ve stepped into a war with the witness whether we liked it or not lol
Normally I do not enjoy top 5/top 10 type videos, but this one was excellent. You always manage to come up with thing that I would never have thought of.
Thanks for all the great content Byf.
I think this is how Bungie will vault the Dreaming City. Mara was in close quarters with Savathun for quite some time, and may have learned how to move worlds from her. If the Awoken moved all these huge volatile weapons into the singularity, they could destroy the Dreadnaught to obliterate everything inside. No more huge world-ending weapons, but no more Awoken pocket dimension either. And what would the Awoken be without a pyrrhic victory?
the DC isnt in the singularity tho. its in/near the reef.
Last wish is wayy to popular to be vaulted
This was a fantastic piece! I would contend that a “Top Five” piece every month or two in your schedule would be appreciable interspersed with your typical lore content!
We need more of these, as someone who started at beyond light I knew none of that. I learned so much
You mentioning Panoptes just reminded me that we received Sagira and killed a vex mind just for Osiris to overextend himself again and get Sagira killed again, just with the Hive instead of the Vex.
Don't get me wrong I hope Osiris wakes up, and I think he's a great character, but talk about wasted opportunities.
Loved the 40K/Horus Heresy explanation. Two of my favorite fictional settings. Cheers!
byf: makes this video listing locations of tactical importance to the vanguard
the witness watching this video: Write that down, write that down
Byf: the vex have control of a star that is also a factory. The witness: they have a WHAT?!
I loved how the video was structured! I would love to see more content like this. It’s nice to have refreshers on lore that doesn’t necessarily pertain to this season but could have future implications, I like to get the refresher that I wasn’t thinking about!
I'm gonna bring this argument up again. Though the scaling on these things is poorly described and quite inconsistent, the Dreadnaught would seem to be considerably larger than the Leviathan. The Leviathan appears to roughly the size of Nessus, which has a diameter of 60km. Orbiting the moon, it isn't visible from Earth. The Dreadnaught can be seen clearly from Titan, among Saturn's rings with a diameter estimated to be around 300 000km. While it's small compared to them, it is far from a speck among them, which an object 60km in size would be, if visible at all.
Despite the scaling inconsistencies, the largest depiction of the Leviathan still seems smaller than the smallest depiction of the Dreadnaught.
The Leviathan is around 200km in length, nothing near the size of the Dreadnaught. If you compare it to the width of the rings of Saturn it could be several thousands of kilometers in length, making it the biggest ship we have seen so far.
I would hurt my brain doing maths like that.
The dreadnoughts size isn't consistent with the hole it made but even at its smallest measurement its about 5x the levithans size
god the vo is so isolated, i love it. it feels like im being read a night time story. good shit byf
I was completely taken aback when he started talking about 40k. I'm so used to people not knowing about it that when content creators I follow start talking about it its a hug surprise
Couple of points... First The Witness has access to the Infinite Forest on Mercury. That probably gave him all the insight he needed on the Vex and their prediction engines.
Second someone measured the Dreadnaught and it is MUCH LARGER than the Leviathan. There is a video on this but the Dreadnaught is roughly 3400 to 3500 km in length. That is almost out Moons diameter... Saturn is a gas giant so it doesn't look too big next to it but park that near Earth and it's sheer presence could do some damage. If you wonder how they found the size one way was to measure a known asteroid that slams into it since we know the size of it...
Not to mention that the Leviathan was only moderately larger than Nessus which canonically is only 60 Km give or take across
Not to mention that the Leviathan was only moderately larger than Nessus which canonically is only 60 Km give or take across
asher mir sealed the infinite forest from the inside before the witness was able to take mercury, same with asher with the pyramidion.
The Distributory has been near the top of this list for me since ... awhile. Riven's presence and her machinations were very much an attempt at taking the Distributory from the Awoken. Literally in multiple definitions of the word Take. If the continued presence of the Scorn AND Xivu Arath's forces are any indication, Servants of the Witness are very much still in a position to take this asset. Control the Dreaming City, control the entrance to the Distributory. If the remaining hidden awoken are as powerful as both hoped and feared it's possible they could stand up directly to the Witness directly, but the possibility remains that IT could twist them into acting on their isolationism against us. I contest that this is very much an actively contested asset. I suppose a factor in how critical this is depends on Xivu Arath's reaction to the Witness's deception towards to the Hive for one. In that case, I don't recall enough lore about her to really judge how the Hive God of War would react. If anything I kinda hope she doubles down and stays loyal, because then she'll be a predictable variable. If she goes wild card and turns against The Witness, that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be friendly to Us. While An enemy's enemies can sometimes become friends(and something we should hope for), sometimes the enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less. (Bonus Points if you get that reference!) But given how recently the Distributory has been in the zeitgeist by virtue of the Season of the Lost, I doubt we'll be going back to deal with that problem so soon. Bungie dragged back a raid environment for use in the Season of the Haunted. We're probably due for something Dreadful. And Naughty. ... I mean Noughty. Then again two big ass ships in a row is probably not likely. So what do we get instead before that?
Ah yes, the 29th maxim of the 70 maxims of maximally effective mercenaries. I believe that maxim 24 might as well be the tagline of destiny
@@nerdherder9340 A bonus points for Nerd Herder!😆
Also yes. Totally.
I never thought I'd hear Lore Daddy Byf use 40k as an example to explain something in Destiny and I love it, I've been try to make my Titan look like a Grey Knight for awhile
I know some people are probably gonna complain about the audio in this video but I LOVE it. It's crispy and satisfying to the senses
I think a lot of anti-Traveler sentiment related to "it gave Savathun the Light!" is missing a number of notable lore points surrounding Ghosts and how Guardians are actually chosen. The process is - in some ways - still one of the mysteries, but we've got several good sources at this point that indicate that while Ghosts are connected to the Traveler, they aren't the Traveler.
The history of the Warlords of Earth in the Dark Age shows how people who were probably not worthy were resurrected (like, perhaps, Savathun). More to the point, we have testimony from a Ghost that specifically says Ghosts come from the Traveler with an idea or a type of person that they're looking for. Someone smart, or strong, or merciless, or brave, or cunning.
Immaru is a jerk. But he didn't necessarily bring Savathun back because the Traveler has been plotting to betray us this entire time. It was simply that Savathun had cunning and wisdom and power, and that's what Immaru was looking for in a Guardian. That's why Savathun was resurrected. The other Hive who became Guardians met the requirements of their Ghosts - as Fynch said, it was just that Immaru broke the taboo.
Also the fact that the traveler was going to the hive before they became the hive- it might still feel some connection to them.
There's lore page that describes a group of ghosts discussing how cool would it be to try to resurrect a hive lmao
Where lol, I gotta see this for myself.
"Without our Light, we are helpless"
Stasis: "Am I a joke to you?"
I don't see anyone using Stasis for DPS.
@@Flamme-Sanabi True, but stasis is still a powerful tool. Just not in the "Deal ALL the damage!" way. More in a, "I said STOP!" way. Being able to control an enemies movement, and thus ability to fight can outright negate the need for the fight.
Darkness doesn't ressurect
Darkness doesn't let you die.
Man never expected a warhammer 40k lore vid from Byf in my Destiny 2 lore video from Byf truly glorious
Sound quality on this video is AMAZING. Idk what you did but it's 👌
as cool of a thought experiment it is and a handy way of remembering which locations have some unfinished stories, what are the chances the Witness just... blows all these places up? Like, no conquest at all. I mean, look, for pure gameplay purposes and story purposes, it won't happen, but in theory, the Witness could just crash a Pyramid into the Dreadnought, hit the core and bye-bye Sol
side-note: did not expect my favorite 40K group popping up here, go grey knights
In the X-Men comics, the Children of the Vault, are a group that live in a closed space where they can advance swiftly in comparison to "our" world, where the X-Men live. In the most recent comics, some X-Men entered the Vault & spent decades in there before 1 finally escaped, sort of.
The whole trapped in/escape from the vault was so crazy
Finally listened to an episode on my PC with my nice headphones... audio is SUPER crispy my dude
I was going to say "Maybe Mara's dropped the Sanguine Awoken a line or two, keeping them up-to-date on the happenings of the system" but then I remembered. It's Mara. She never uses one word when a meaningful glance will do. So I can only hope that whatever obfuscations Mara's put in place to stymie progress toward the Distributary have remained stable. I do know that there was a Corsair contingent securing the Cocytus Gateway - Lavinia ran afoul of them while investigating the installation.
As much as you discussed relativity here, it seems you have overlooked something. From the perspective of the Awoken inhabiting the Distributary, Mara and the Awoken who left with her, departed millions of years ago
You got the scale of the Forged Star off
I'm assuming they are fully controlling a white hyper giant, and in terms of mass, I suspect it would have a production capacity several million times. What a fully mechanized earth mass would have.
One of these things could essentially burp out an entire starfleet in a few milliseconds, continuously, for millions of years
The vex are the fun high type 2 low type 3 civilization that sci-fi geeks love
To those who don’t what this guy is talking about when he says Type 2 Civilization, he’s referring to the Kardashev Scale which is a method used to categorize civilizations based on how much energy is used. To give a quick run down of the scale:
Type 1 Civilization: a civilization that has harnessed the power of its home planet. Humanity is almost one.
Type 2 Civilization: a civilization that has harnessed the power of its local star. Think of if humanity was able to harness the power of the sun.
Type 3 Civilization: a civilization that has harnessed the super-massive black hole at the center of its galaxy. Again, think of humanity harnessing the power of the super-massive black hole at the center of the Milky Way.
I love that you brought up the kardashev scale
Good content.
We played Destiny from Alpha through D2 Warmind.
We left Destiny 2 for a number of years. When we did, we also stopped watching you.
I like this. It connected various different points and lore-worlds (entire worlds or realities that are, in many ways, disparate). It was a good way to bring those different points together.
Bro, I geeked out so much when you mentioned 40k!! And I'm so happy someone else made the comparison to 40k as well in some of the destiny lore/ content!
Perhaps each of the nine are one of the nine kinds of sentientish life we interact with: Human, Awoken, Exo, Cabal, Psion, Vex, Eliksni, Hive, and Ghost
That's an interesting theory
I thought it was implied that each of the 9 major celestial bodies in the solar system (8 planets and the sun) represented a different being of the IX
@@hunterfrench1283 these aren't mutually exclusive. Nine bodies, nine species, could be one for each. Cabal for Mars, Hive for Saturn, Vex for Mercury, Humans for Earth, etc. Maybe?
Given the size of the Dreadnought, there could EASILY be BILLIONS of Hive inhabiting the Dreadnought. Frankly, I don't see how Bungie could possibly claim we've captured the Dreadnought.
Do the Hive on the Dreadnought have a Leader and/or do they control essential systems of the ship?
If all those Hive are Thrall without someone to tithe their slaughter to or even lead them I don't see there being much of a threat... _currently_
same way they can say we've secured any planet when we've only been around a small fraction of its surface, we just have a handle on the important bits
@@horrorfan117 can't imagine that to be true
35:50 “if you could give the scorn a terrifyingly powerful weapon”
So you mean they could have something worse than the one-shot crossbows?
Nothing made me nerd happy as hearing you talking about time-space when talking about The Distributary
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Anyone else notice how The Witness tends to speak in a very specific pattern? Like it groups things in groups of either 2 syllables or 2 words? It's been bugging me since witch queen dropped, and I haven't seen much about it. Also haven't searched too much into it, but it feels oddly specific.
I don't get what you're going for. Just the dialogue at the end of witch queen shows this is wrong. "Enough life, enough death" Sure those work, but "you have no more pieces left to play" does not.
20:02 The whole “Greek mythology underworld is HELL” isn’t true. When Christian scholars and translators read Greek literature they noticed a distinct lack of punishment in their afterlife, so they MADE UP sections of their afterlife to make it more “Christian” and “punishing”. Definitely not what the original practices were about lol
was not expecting the 40k lore explanation, but 100% here for it
The dreadnought was the first iteration of a hive gods ship. We've seen Savathuns and Oryxs which guard their throne worlds, I wouldn't be surprised if Xivu Arath had one as well.
The distributary would be a very very slippery slope remember the same people who shot at her are still alive which most likely played a key role in how they currently operate. The truth that Mara told lee is basically: I made everything here and I also made all the problems on purpose. All that over a obvious lie.
What if we stopped the witness from conquering any places in general
The witness can have Shaw han, I can live with that
Omg Byf great video! This video really highlights places I never rly thought about and I was not expecting that splice of 40k lore and I AM SO HERE FOR IT!
Yoooo, byf killing vex in the glassway with Batman. This is the crossover we needed
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"If you could give a Scorn a terrifyingly powerful weapon..."
Byf, if Rhulk had focused on mass-producing Scorn Crossbows rather than actual Scorn troops then his forces would have wiped the floor with our collective asses
I'm pretty sure I'm not the first one to say this: 40K lore by Byf when? Or at least a collab with Luetin?
Keep up the great work!
Theory: The next season will be Xivu Arath focused, with the Dreadnaught coming back as a new minidestination (like the Derilect Laviathan). This would also make sense for the possible story of Xivu Arath trying to claim Oryx's power and the Dreadnaught to become the Hive disciple to the the Witness, and possibly to attack the Last City along with the Pyramid Fleet in Lightfall. This would also make sense, since either King's Fall or Wrath of the Machine is coming back next season. Need I remind you, one of the 4 Truths/Lies in the Reflection was that "The Taken King will rise again." Both the fact that we have not yet fought Xivu Arath(we kind of need to before Lightfall), as well as the fact that the Dreadnaught needs to come back for King's Fall, lend credence to the idea of a Xivu Arath/Dreadnaught focused season.
TLDR:
A Xive Arath focused season where she attempts to take back the Dreadnaught and use its power in Lightfall to help the Witness assault the City.
I’m hoping for a disciple focused season
What if Xivu used the dreadnought as a sorta ritual site to summon herself into our system. We know she's like galaxies upon galaxies away and she's been summoned into systems before for example torbotal. it'd be cool if the season was us attempting to stop the ritual through war and end up actually completing the ritual, by us fighting the hive and trying to stop her summoning we caused war and we were the ones to summon her.
Hammers home the idea that, we can't out war the God of War.
Gotta say, big fan of videos like this. I feel like it really helps to brush up on lore that might not be realivant now, but is good to have in the back of your mind if and when it starts to become relevant again. Would definitly like to see more of these every now and then. Keep up the great work, I love watching your videos
Videos like this is why keep coming bacc to destiny.
When byf talking about warhammer 40k gives me chills would pay good money to hear him talk warhammer lore !!!!!
13:52 "It's also an impenetrable fortrress"
*shows Cabal having rammed their ship into the dreadnaught*
Byf I love you and this video. When you mentioned 40k my heart jumped. Tyyy so freaking much for this
Just wanna say, Byf's voice is super crisp and I love it. Almost feels like I'm watching David Attenborough's Planet Earth. Except it's Byf: Destiny lore.
Ooof that flinch in the beginning, made my heart ache 0:23
The vex are still a wild card in the story, as they are ultimately opposed to both the forces of light and dark.
Who knows how many vaults of glass or machine planets they have at their disposal, they've never cared to go all out no matter how many installations in the sol system we have rendered unusable for them.
I don't doubt that they will be the major antagonist at some point in Destiny again, likely as a post-witness enemy once the guardian has mastered both the light and the dark, and the vex are their natural enemy.
I listen as I'm working, so I'll rewatch parts of this or the whole thing several times as I work. Just FYI, these are the benefits of long videos.
I'd be very interested in the Sanguine Awoken thread. Narratively speaking, I could see that being played out in a season in the next expansion. However, I want (and need) more Vex content. Other than that, the Nine will probably reappear soon so going to keep an eye open for that.
On another note, the audio setup is fantastic!
I really want more on the vex and their origins.
Really enjoyed the warhammer 40k example I would not mind if in the future if you gave some warhammer 40k lore videos I would be very interested to hear them.
This video is amazing
Your videos literally make me excited about future Destiny tv shows and movies.
I can’t wait, it’s coming (that’s what she said)
Thoroughly enjoy this form of content! Hoping for more. Thank you, Byf!
Audio is coming through loud & clear now. Good work!
I hadn’t really thought about it, but bringing the dreadnaught back as a location would be a really interesting story element to match bringing back taken king raid next season. We haven’t heard from Xivu in awhile and it’d be a great time to talk about her and her relationship to the witness, I could see her attempting to take up oryx’s taken mantle and becoming a disciple of the witness potentially. And for the season afterwards I want us to go back to Europa and deal with Clovis and the vex gate, which should absolutely be the basis of our next dungeon btw.
Sound note: I can’t pin down exactly what it is, but something sounded off. I think the high range sounded better than normal and the bass sounded off.. might not be right there, and maybe its just getting used to a new sound!
The new mic/setup sounds world's better byf! Even out of my phone speakers I can hear the difference. GG's.
Byf is really out here giving bungie 4 full on new storylines to explore if the witness does take control of one of these destinations
In a strange way, cuz I never thought it would, your audio sounds a bit more clearer but a little flatter too. Best way I can say it
“Hive Christmas” was not what I was expecting to hear today… or ever really. Does this mean that there is a hive Santa? The gift… is death.
One thing I've noticed since the audio method swap is that lines in lore readings will sometimes be read twice. I understand it's a thing of stitching together multiple takes, but it's funny when you're expecting the reading to continue and it restarts at the previous sentence
I know this is random, but your audio in this video is some of the best I've heard from you. Good shit dude. keep it up :D
The audio for this video sounds amazing. The content covered was also quite interesting and you explained everything really well. Definitely a good video
Mr. My name is Byf, I gotta say, the best thing about the improvement to your audio setup is that I can clearly hear you from my phone while doing chores or whatever without the use of headphones. Cheers to you and your oh so sexy voice.
this new mic of yours is like my ears are getting the massage ever
so crisp
so good
the lore of destiny is what keeps me coming back each expansion, it's one of the most compelling stories i've ever heard.
just spent 37 minutes in byfs world. great video!
The way I see it with the traveler is that it did not seem like it intended to betray us in any way. It simply is trying to build up the armies of light against the witness and the hive were an easy target as they were once offered the light before.
“We need to look at the Grey Knights”
oh ON GOD
My face lit up when you mentioned grey knights and their creation
Enjoyed this video a lot! More like this would be great. I never thought about the possible ramifications of the Witness gaining control of these locations but it all makes to me.
Hearing you mention the Grey Knights does bring a smile to my face :)
the Vex genuinely scare me. We've only really been fighting mining groups at this point