Great body filler instructional: with Cye and boys demonstrations, and your articulate narrations I was fully able to learn the steps for a novice like me.
Gradually going through all the episodes, absolutely fascinated by this one - so glad you showed the process. Great work. I've been banging on to anyone who will listen about this channel.
Man I love watching old dudes who have decades of just pure intuition built up and they just go right at it with a ball peen hammer to make perfect shapes to the car body. Just something about people like them who develop essentially an art.
Been playing catch-up and watching these after finding them late. This filler episode reminds me of when I used to engage with mending my own Mini, 30+ years ago. I had no welder (or ability to weld!) and made an awful job. You have way more patience and skill that I ever had! Good stuff...
You inspire me to get stuck in. I found episode 66 10 days ago and went back to the beginning. For a wee lad from west Scotland it makes me feel a little closer to home. Well done.
Well, who knew there was such s depth of technique in "slapping on" some filler? When you see a proffessional do something apparently so simple, you realise how hard you make it for yourself. Excellent stuff. Thanks George.
This comes with perfect timing, George! I need a refresher with body filler and have been dreading the mess and frustration I recognized all too well in your videos, and seeing a proffessional work is dangerously encouraging. My good friend will be up to help me but this film eases my mind in the meantime. So, thanks!
It's all stuff I've done before but it's so comforting to see both that a novice can produce an good job (good job, by the way!) and to see the confidence and thoroughness with which a real proffessional does these things. I do it infrequently enough that I forget steps and this stage IS looming in my project, so this feels good.
I've recently discovered your channel, and I've been watching from Episode 1. Loads have been interesting, inspiring and educational, but this one was like a tutorial cut down to 15 minutes. Thank you. Now I'm gonna go watch the rest!
Best episode yet! Why? I’m restoring a ‘73 Mercedes 450SLC and I made the same filler errors that you did when repairing (lots of) rust. After seeing the right way, I’m anxious to get back to it!
Awesome episode been doing mimor filler work on my datsun racecar ober the winter and seeing this was really helpful. That tie down strap trick is killer so cool for you to show. Thankyou.
Hope it comes in handy. Its not so difficult when you follow the few simple rules, but it does take time. The strap trick really appealed to my perfectionist streak ;)
Thanks for the update on Tina. I liked the format of the previous episodes. They felt like a professional TV programme which is testament to your editing skills. I'm sure your new format will be just as good. You'll be glad to know that I finally give my Dolomite a bit of love. Not quite ready for a start up. I'm debating whether to fit electronic ignition or just try to get it running on the points first.
I like the previous format too but it's massively labour intensive and whereas I love getting absorbed into something with decent length when I'm watching something, the stats suggest I need to shorten things.
It's so Zen watching skilled craftsmen at work … and you too George. ;) Donation of some sort heading your way soon once I get to the end of this binge!
George, not only are you a perfectionist you are very comfortable in front of the camera so i think you need to be speaking to the BBC, Top Gear would really benefit from you, you have so much passion for what you are doing.
It's difficult when you realise you're not quite as able to achieve the perfection you'd like Malcolm, but it's a journey of skill building and experience so I've found there are other kinds of reward. Thanks for the kind words mate, gratefully received. The last time I had a stab at a BBC gig my contract must have gotten lost in the post ;) 🍻
Well George, I've been following and watching your videos for 2 weeks now! How've I missed them before? I only came across your channel by reading comments on some other channel. Brilliant quality of video production, I've been binge watching for the past fortnight. I reckon by next week I'll have caught up! Got a Toyota celica myself, 1997 model which is one of the better condition models considering our wet climate (Devon). Your channel is a great inspiration to wrench everyday (sorry lol.🤣) when it's too cold and wet to do anything else when you're working on a driveway!
The image got me as my first car was an Australian built TF Cortina. Smallest engine option we got though was 2 litres and the biggest a 4.1 litre six. The big six's with a four speed were absolute weapons.
Little tip when filling , new tins of filler if they have been standing a while will have a little resin pool on the top it's great as it makes easier to spread so you can buy a small tin of resin to add or use a drop of cellulose thinner to thin the filler , I used a rolled up rag dipped in thinner when filling inner wings to spread and smooth out filler .
My two brothers both had Ford Cortina's, both had terminal rust and both had new camshaft/oil seals, skokie cortina's on start up. One a X plate in the UK and the other a Y plate, sadly they don't make rear axle's like any more. Keep up the great work on her.
Another cracking insight video! I am still shocked you dont have more subs and views. The way you put videos together is so much better than the usual crap on here
Enjoyable as always. On the strapping side of things that looked neat but the system he used on the wheel is apparently not insured a lot anymore. It's to do with it possibly damaging wheels or brakes. Now they have rubber straps for over the tyre.
Great stuff again. I think the new format will be good for the channel, the existing format was great but I gather it’s futile to go any other direction than working with the UA-cam algorithm. Hopefully will mean more subs (for what must be the most criminally underrated channel on UA-cam) and more frequent videos for us. Keep at it buddy !
“The first episode with no time lapse in it”.......so where do I buy that magic tape that applies itself and the paint that peels off so cooperatively? Or are you a Goblin wizard and it has always been magic we were watching and not stop action at all? 😆 I guess you can match the length of episode to the content you want to share. I like the longer ones as it’s more of an occasion and you get time to be absorbed in the world of Soup rather than dipping in for a quick visit. But whatever works for the channel and your mojo is cool. It’s all good George, keep it up! Cheers from Japan.
If I'm honest I like the longer episodes too, especially with plenty of tech stuff and with interviews in them too. But it's massively labour intensive and the stats show that on average people only watch about ten minutes. So somethings gotta change, and I need to lighten the workload because it's intense. Not even convinced this will be the answer but the experimenting has begun! Thanks lads
I watched both episodes and I don't get why you would do two skims of filler. Why not do it all at once? I've got this coming up on my car - can you please explain?
Hi Sacha, it's not an absolute rule so do what you can. The aim is to get the panel as smooth as possible with as little filler as possible. You could slap on a load of filler and sand until the filler is smooth but it's not necessarily a good repair because it could be way too thick. Generally the first skim can reveal high spots or blemishes that will need more attention. You could almost consider it like a guide coat allowing you to hone the repair to a better state. Then skim over again and work until the repair is perfect. Each time you're hoping to sand as much filler away as possible while leaving a uniform surface. How far you want to go is up to you. Technically I skimmed three coats including the Dolphin Glaze. Then as you'll see soon, there are multiple coats of primer to build up a fine surface that also has to be sanded flat before paint. It's a crazy amount of work to do well. Goes to show that good auto body guys know what they're doing, they wouldn't be able to make a living otherwise.
First off, thank you for the detailed explanation. My takeaway certainly is that it is a lot of work; the hammering being downright intimidating as I can't see any difference in what they are doing (before/after). I suppose the frequent fondling of the area will make all the difference. Only one way to find out; I think I will be making some people very unhappy at my condominium soon, haha!
No worries mate, it is a lot of work but it's good work. I'm intimidated by the hammering too and sorry there was no way of making what he was doing more visible. To be honest I couldn't even see it standing beside him. You're right the main thing is feeling what's going on and then modifying gradually. He wasn't hitting the panel hard. More just slowly tapping it down a little. What I will say is after all of the work, when the paint is on and the panel looks smooth.... it's all worth it.
George. You should’ve told Si that you thought the stop/go filming of his work was all in his price. I’m sure he wouldn’t have minded. It’s only “time”. Ha Ha!
No one's ever given me the 'you're crazy' stare as hard as when Si saw what I have to do to make the stop motion happen. He also muttered something to the effect of 'you're nuts if you think I'm waiting for you to do that' 😅
I thought I'd roundly like all aspects of restoration but I was surprised at the sheer amount of work needed to do a proper job with this kind of panel preparation.
@@soupclassicmotoring Yes, it takes a certain sense of zen to get it done correctly which I do not have. I donated to the go fund me, I hope we get you that welder!
Thanks a mill Harold, it's almost half way. If it keeps growing I'm going to hit up a few companies and see if they'll match the amount for something really special!
There was no talk of pickle but they guys explained about etch primer. Seemingly the stuff in cans can't be as good as fresh mixed stuff. Regardless etch primer etches itself into the metal work, and because of it's make up you have to primer over it so that there won't be a reaction with the paint.
Had never heard the Cortina caled TF Cortina before, or of the Aussie 4.0 6, but your the second person to reference them. Would love to see what a 4.0 would be like in Tina, but that's never going to happen. Cheers mate.
It shouldn't fall off the way these panels have been prepared, i.e conscientiously and with the minimum of filler. Watch the coming episodes for the rest of the job before judging. The repairs were welded, you can see that in the previous episodes. Lead loading is a whole other ball game and something I'm sure I'll try in the future.
Well for starters if it brings happiness to someone, even if they can't look after it, there's something to be said for just going for the thing you love. And Rob loves the car. In terms of it being a pointless fix, well Tina now has more time, and plenty of people here have been able to learn a little about how to properly repair panel work.
@@soupclassicmotoring yes I'm enjoying watching the restore myself. It's just a shame Rob can't find a place for it to store in winter. Or maybe you could still buy it? He didn't seem that find of it in his interview. He bought it for a visitor and didn't have much use for it recently as I recall..
"He never stopped, but he never rushed." Great advice for so many aspects of life.
True that!
Keith is a professional. Professionalism. He'll never lose a load in his career !!!
Great body filler instructional: with Cye and boys demonstrations, and your articulate narrations I was fully able to learn the steps for a novice like me.
Fair play Peter, that's what I wanted :)
Gradually going through all the episodes, absolutely fascinated by this one - so glad you showed the process. Great work. I've been banging on to anyone who will listen about this channel.
Man I love watching old dudes who have decades of just pure intuition built up and they just go right at it with a ball peen hammer to make perfect shapes to the car body. Just something about people like them who develop essentially an art.
lol I'm going to tell Si you called him old. He's a master.
Been playing catch-up and watching these after finding them late. This filler episode reminds me of when I used to engage with mending my own Mini, 30+ years ago. I had no welder (or ability to weld!) and made an awful job. You have way more patience and skill that I ever had! Good stuff...
Gotta love Mini's for size, fun factor and simplicity! Thanks
Your commentary is very well done, not too simplistic but easily understandable! Great video as always.
Thank you very much :)
You inspire me to get stuck in. I found episode 66 10 days ago and went back to the beginning. For a wee lad from west Scotland it makes me feel a little closer to home. Well done.
Well, who knew there was such s depth of technique in "slapping on" some filler? When you see a proffessional do something apparently so simple, you realise how hard you make it for yourself. Excellent stuff. Thanks George.
Glad it brought some new info Gray, it certainly opened my eyes :)
This comes with perfect timing, George! I need a refresher with body filler and have been dreading the mess and frustration I recognized all too well in your videos, and seeing a proffessional work is dangerously encouraging. My good friend will be up to help me but this film eases my mind in the meantime. So, thanks!
😄dangerously encouraging... yep.
It's all stuff I've done before but it's so comforting to see both that a novice can produce an good job (good job, by the way!) and to see the confidence and thoroughness with which a real proffessional does these things. I do it infrequently enough that I forget steps and this stage IS looming in my project, so this feels good.
Thanks a mill Matt, I constantly forget stuff too it's like if something's going in something get's pushed out. Getting old blows!
I've recently discovered your channel, and I've been watching from Episode 1. Loads have been interesting, inspiring and educational, but this one was like a tutorial cut down to 15 minutes. Thank you.
Now I'm gonna go watch the rest!
I'm glad I met you at the garage, by the way, thanks very much for fixing my cabinet
Any time dude! Thanks for the help :)
Best episode yet! Why? I’m restoring a ‘73 Mercedes 450SLC and I made the same filler errors that you did when repairing (lots of) rust. After seeing the right way, I’m anxious to get back to it!
Hope it worked out, and thanks :)
Awesome episode been doing mimor filler work on my datsun racecar ober the winter and seeing this was really helpful. That tie down strap trick is killer so cool for you to show. Thankyou.
Hope it comes in handy. Its not so difficult when you follow the few simple rules, but it does take time. The strap trick really appealed to my perfectionist streak ;)
Body work guys are like plasterer's, they make it look so it, but it it is an absolute artform! Stunning work from Delta Body
These boys know what's what! Appreciate it mate, thanks.
Thanks for the update on Tina. I liked the format of the previous episodes. They felt like a professional TV programme which is testament to your editing skills. I'm sure your new format will be just as good. You'll be glad to know that I finally give my Dolomite a bit of love. Not quite ready for a start up. I'm debating whether to fit electronic ignition or just try to get it running on the points first.
I like the previous format too but it's massively labour intensive and whereas I love getting absorbed into something with decent length when I'm watching something, the stats suggest I need to shorten things.
Love your work. Top notch production as usual, even with the shorter format. Keep at it!
Thanks a mill Adam
I've been afraid of filler for years, this was an excellent tutorial! Coupled with the fiberglass I've got a bit of confidence.
Hope you had a good Jordan, glad it was a help! Def changed my view of the work.
It's so Zen watching skilled craftsmen at work … and you too George. ;) Donation of some sort heading your way soon once I get to the end of this binge!
Your videos are brilliant!
cheers, and thanks
George, not only are you a perfectionist you are very comfortable in front of the camera so i think you need to be speaking to the BBC, Top Gear would really benefit from you, you have so much passion for what you are doing.
It's difficult when you realise you're not quite as able to achieve the perfection you'd like Malcolm, but it's a journey of skill building and experience so I've found there are other kinds of reward. Thanks for the kind words mate, gratefully received. The last time I had a stab at a BBC gig my contract must have gotten lost in the post ;) 🍻
Best episode so far. I enjoyed the real time footage as opposed to the 'animation' - it's good to see how everything is done.
I know I said there wasn't any stop motion when there was but you know what I meant ;)
Well George, I've been following and watching your videos for 2 weeks now! How've I missed them before? I only came across your channel by reading comments on some other channel. Brilliant quality of video production, I've been binge watching for the past fortnight. I reckon by next week I'll have caught up! Got a Toyota celica myself, 1997 model which is one of the better condition models considering our wet climate (Devon). Your channel is a great inspiration to wrench everyday (sorry lol.🤣) when it's too cold and wet to do anything else when you're working on a driveway!
Love all the videos. I’m catching up from the beginning right now. Great motivation! I gotta start working on my cars
The image got me as my first car was an Australian built TF Cortina. Smallest engine option we got though was 2 litres and the biggest a 4.1 litre six. The big six's with a four speed were absolute weapons.
Man I can imagine, even a 2.0 in one of these must be fun. Not sure about the back end but they're a great little car.
The simple prep and application of some body filler, made look simple but not so simple, awesome job as ever 👊
Glad you liked it K, hell of a lot of work to do properly. Glad I know how now
SOUP Classic Motoring now you know why I didn’t do the filler and paint on the Splitty 🤙
laziness? 😛
SOUP Classic Motoring 😂😂😂
Little tip when filling , new tins of filler if they have been standing a while will have a little resin pool on the top it's great as it makes easier to spread so you can buy a small tin of resin to add or use a drop of cellulose thinner to thin the filler , I used a rolled up rag dipped in thinner when filling inner wings to spread and smooth out filler .
Nice tip mate, will keep it in mind if I find a tin with the resin pool. 👌🏼
George, Top video and great info, I hope we get a chance to meet up soon when as we talked about when you have the time, Cheers Dave
My two brothers both had Ford Cortina's, both had terminal rust and both had new camshaft/oil seals, skokie cortina's on start up. One a X plate in the UK and the other a Y plate, sadly they don't make rear axle's like any more. Keep up the great work on her.
She's a fine car. Nice to hear they were all a little smokey. Definitely not made of great steel. Rob is receiving her back in a few days!
When you said you would be doing this without filler I thought "gees he must be good" turns out you were just naive. Great stuff George.
Damn, George it looks great bud. Your loyal fan from San Antonio, Texas !!!
Thanks for the insight on filler. Still intimidating, but maybe one day.
been looking forward to this one !
Hope it passed muster Mike :)
Great episode George.
Cheers J, looking forward to things staying fresh ;)
Great video, really enjoyed it,,thank you
Enjoyed that !
Glad mate
Another cracking insight video! I am still shocked you dont have more subs and views. The way you put videos together is so much better than the usual crap on here
Cheers Andy, I think it's good so that makes at least two of us 😄
Good work George, I’ve picked up a few tips and tricks watching that. Does that mean Tina is finished and going back to Rob. Cheers. Rob.
Yep Rob, Rob is getting Tina back in a day or two! He's excited, I'm excited. It's all good 😎
Enjoyable as always. On the strapping side of things that looked neat but the system he used on the wheel is apparently not insured a lot anymore. It's to do with it possibly damaging wheels or brakes. Now they have rubber straps for over the tyre.
Think I've seen those. And metal braces too, never been able to find them though.
That filled some time in my evening :)
Here to serve Mark ;)
Great stuff again. I think the new format will be good for the channel, the existing format was great but I gather it’s futile to go any other direction than working with the UA-cam algorithm. Hopefully will mean more subs (for what must be the most criminally underrated channel on UA-cam) and more frequent videos for us. Keep at it buddy !
Cool you are on bard with the new format. Criminally underrated is the best description yet, makes me feel better. 😄
Brilliant 👍
Thanks man :)
I'll be doing my straps that way from now on.
lovely job ,, just a note after paint .!is it worth spraying waxoyl through the pillers and back of welded areas ,, awsome tina and great work , ,
Absolutely. Thanks
Good episode mate go fund me for a welder sounds like a capital idea let me go donate now.
Thanks! This is the link...www.gofundme.com/a-welder-for-george-karellas
What's a Twinkie? Is that like a mini roll for yanks? Great work George 👍👍
I have no clue 😄
“The first episode with no time lapse in it”.......so where do I buy that magic tape that applies itself and the paint that peels off so cooperatively? Or are you a Goblin wizard and it has always been magic we were watching and not stop action at all? 😆 I guess you can match the length of episode to the content you want to share. I like the longer ones as it’s more of an occasion and you get time to be absorbed in the world of Soup rather than dipping in for a quick visit. But whatever works for the channel and your mojo is cool. It’s all good George, keep it up! Cheers from Japan.
If I'm honest I like the longer episodes too, especially with plenty of tech stuff and with interviews in them too. But it's massively labour intensive and the stats show that on average people only watch about ten minutes. So somethings gotta change, and I need to lighten the workload because it's intense. Not even convinced this will be the answer but the experimenting has begun! Thanks lads
I watched both episodes and I don't get why you would do two skims of filler. Why not do it all at once? I've got this coming up on my car - can you please explain?
Hi Sacha, it's not an absolute rule so do what you can. The aim is to get the panel as smooth as possible with as little filler as possible. You could slap on a load of filler and sand until the filler is smooth but it's not necessarily a good repair because it could be way too thick. Generally the first skim can reveal high spots or blemishes that will need more attention. You could almost consider it like a guide coat allowing you to hone the repair to a better state. Then skim over again and work until the repair is perfect. Each time you're hoping to sand as much filler away as possible while leaving a uniform surface. How far you want to go is up to you. Technically I skimmed three coats including the Dolphin Glaze. Then as you'll see soon, there are multiple coats of primer to build up a fine surface that also has to be sanded flat before paint. It's a crazy amount of work to do well. Goes to show that good auto body guys know what they're doing, they wouldn't be able to make a living otherwise.
First off, thank you for the detailed explanation. My takeaway certainly is that it is a lot of work; the hammering being downright intimidating as I can't see any difference in what they are doing (before/after). I suppose the frequent fondling of the area will make all the difference. Only one way to find out; I think I will be making some people very unhappy at my condominium soon, haha!
No worries mate, it is a lot of work but it's good work. I'm intimidated by the hammering too and sorry there was no way of making what he was doing more visible. To be honest I couldn't even see it standing beside him. You're right the main thing is feeling what's going on and then modifying gradually. He wasn't hitting the panel hard. More just slowly tapping it down a little. What I will say is after all of the work, when the paint is on and the panel looks smooth.... it's all worth it.
When you know somebody is better than you at doing a job just shut up, listen & watch 👍👍👍
George. You should’ve told Si that you thought the stop/go filming of his work was all in his price. I’m sure he wouldn’t have minded. It’s only “time”. Ha Ha!
No one's ever given me the 'you're crazy' stare as hard as when Si saw what I have to do to make the stop motion happen. He also muttered something to the effect of 'you're nuts if you think I'm waiting for you to do that' 😅
Body work is one of those things I love to watch a professional do but I don't like doing myself.
I thought I'd roundly like all aspects of restoration but I was surprised at the sheer amount of work needed to do a proper job with this kind of panel preparation.
@@soupclassicmotoring Yes, it takes a certain sense of zen to get it done correctly which I do not have. I donated to the go fund me, I hope we get you that welder!
Thanks a mill Harold, it's almost half way. If it keeps growing I'm going to hit up a few companies and see if they'll match the amount for something really special!
Nice
Should you pickle the bare metal before applying the filler?
There was no talk of pickle but they guys explained about etch primer. Seemingly the stuff in cans can't be as good as fresh mixed stuff. Regardless etch primer etches itself into the metal work, and because of it's make up you have to primer over it so that there won't be a reaction with the paint.
Great viewing. One thing I thought you never hit one hammer with another.
Thanks. The hammer thing depends on the hammer, some are only surface hardened
Like a tiny Granada mk. 2
lol, exactly
TF cortina great medium car, needs a Barra to wake it up (BB eater)
Had never heard the Cortina caled TF Cortina before, or of the Aussie 4.0 6, but your the second person to reference them. Would love to see what a 4.0 would be like in Tina, but that's never going to happen. Cheers mate.
The Australian cortina had the falcon 6 and the ford 2 litre OHC in them, check the barra 6 here, big surprise for you , great engine
What a heap.
Ooouuuufff, 3RD...I'm slipping....
3rd Mal
fulloffiller?soon to fall off should .have welded/soldered the damage
It shouldn't fall off the way these panels have been prepared, i.e conscientiously and with the minimum of filler. Watch the coming episodes for the rest of the job before judging. The repairs were welded, you can see that in the previous episodes. Lead loading is a whole other ball game and something I'm sure I'll try in the future.
Too much fuss for some Prep work
Easy when you know how I suppose
The problem is the owner got it not long ago as a mint car but didn't look after it. Fixing it is a pointless task.
Well for starters if it brings happiness to someone, even if they can't look after it, there's something to be said for just going for the thing you love. And Rob loves the car. In terms of it being a pointless fix, well Tina now has more time, and plenty of people here have been able to learn a little about how to properly repair panel work.
@@soupclassicmotoring yes I'm enjoying watching the restore myself. It's just a shame Rob can't find a place for it to store in winter. Or maybe you could still buy it? He didn't seem that find of it in his interview. He bought it for a visitor and didn't have much use for it recently as I recall..