J10 feels like a culmination of the best every nation has to offer, 29SMTs radar, the Gripens one circle and low speed capability, F16Cs single engine power. I wouldn't be surprised if mid next year were looking at Su30s, F15EX, and Eurofighter T4s.
The Su-30's maybe, but the F-5EX and Eurofighter, perhaps a bit extreme. The EX will come with AIM-120D's, not even C-5's. The Eurofighter can get an early version, but people think it'll just be a twin engine Gripen, when in actuality it has the speed and power of an F-22 without the stealth. Fighting at 50,000ft is a breeze for it.
@jacobbaumgardner3406 the reason I say F15EX and EF T4 is because in the past Gaijin has added jets well before they should have, like the SMT could have R77-1 but it came out with R27ER. I don't think many of the avionics systems jets have today are relevant in WT or modeled, so I imagine F15EX will be about as powerful and a Su30SM but I could be wrong and they just add another F15C with a better radar and missiles. Who knows, just a wild guess
@@RoachEatsVipers this is true. I wouldnt be surprised if the Typhoon comes out early to mid next year with AMRAAM B and ASRAAM. As for avionics, though, the issue is that many new jets use AESA arrays, which can't be "mismodeled". The way they work means that they either don't model it at all or introduced busted radars. It's the reason why we haven't seen the Mitsubishi F-1 yet. From what I know about the EX, it does get new engines, the same ones in the F-16C, so it'll have ridiculous thrust. A FBW system so it has the maneuverability of other FBW jets (watch the recent F-15QA demo for reference), and most of all it has an AESA, which if you know how they work will completely change how the game plays. It would be like going from a MiG-21 radar to the most recent 4th Gen radars. It's that big of a difference.
Regarding PL-12, the missile is pretty much neck and neck with AAM-4 unless you really start to push range where AAM-4 starts to claw out an edge. Solid missile
@@GeneralLee2000 wont change the fact that u had to grind an extra 400k rp for j10a and like 100-200k rp for mods on top of the 380k j10 , just to get pl12s on j10
@@hemendraravi4787 I don't think you understand. The early J-10 WOULDN'T HAVE those PL-12s. Its best radar missile would be the Aspide. Unless you mean to just bypassing it to get the J-10A with PL-12? In which case I don't care at all, because I would play the low tier one MUCH more.
Yeah can we please get a su27 buff? Sweep rate is god awful, FM seems far weaker than it should be… even the irst has been acting up for a few updates. Last time I flew the su27sm I was having to solely rely on ETs and 73s for kills. R-77s would only get kills at close range where they would go pitbull off the rails
I've always hoped for something like the MiG-29M (9-15) as red teams solution along side the J-10 and I'm very happy to see the J-10 show up! Im still hoping for that a MiG-29M (9-15) Prototype 156. I have been an advocate for the 29M over the 27SM because of the fact the Su-27 is well worse off in game than it should be.
@@bigmemer4398 i have recently found on the data sheet that shows every (ingame) missiles irccm there is a chinese spaa with the suspended and gatewidth irccms. they very well couldve give it its full potential but decided not to
F18C doesn't really bring anything new or special given its lackluster kinematic performance. sure it has more AMRAAMS but unless you are trying to fire on their entire team, you don't need that many. eagles and vipers will still be far superior to the hornet.
I would say that it’s a combo of the J-10 and JF-17 that are doing it as a pair. But yeah, super glad they were added, it’s really helped even out games
This plane is crazy good but i think is missing two things to make it totally complete and accurate: 1 - A TD box in the cockpit hud (that green box/circle/triangle that appears in the hud indicating where the thing that you locked actually is in the world). 2 - A Helmet mounted display with info about speed, weapon selected etc... Idk why they didn't added these features yet....
@@SuperTitoneli yeah I forgot to mention the TD box, its super annoying but with the plane showing up as "?" On RWR's and the Helmet display the plane just being the standard sight I'd say its not finished yet
Okay 10 year vet here ,and other than losing like 75% of the time ,i finally found a channel i agree with on warthunder ,the j10 totally saving the day for them infjund the f15 and quit flying for the other guys because they cant bomb
There's also the issue that the F-16's rate speeds are above 450kts, and rating at those speeds has you blacking out every 5 seconds. If Gaijin were to up the G resistance for modern jets (with modern G suits and many jers having reclined seats), tp tier jets would be much less of a pain in a dogfight.
Fought you in a match the other day while you were flying the j10 (you kicked my butt every time unless I was super sneaky lol) O7 GGS and keep up the great content
He flies it like a boss but i seen a couple of people get too slow and then show you the whole top of their jet for the gun solution. Jet looks awesome tho...... just gonna have to adjust 😂 if we survived the 1,000 flare grippen i think we will be ok.
its a bit weird, what you do is bind keys for "radar cursor horizontal slewing"(i cant remember its exact name) to something easy, i personally use alt + A & D for left and right slewing. this control is MEANT to be used when you have the setting "target cyclic switching" disabled, but for our purposes it also works here by making your scan zone slew left and right. from there, set conjunctive keybinds for "radar elevation", mine is alt + W & S for up and down respectively and now you can basically use WASD while holding alt to put your radar scan zone anywhere u want from the nose. hope my rambling helps :D
I think the Winter update is about to change things from 11.0 to 13.7. I think Russia will get the R-77-1 and more importantly, they'll be getting jets that can finally compete with the US/NATO jets. In fact it'll take things to the next level as we'll be looking at jets with 6+ datalinks with 12 ARH missiles with radars that have parity with current jets. We know the F/A-18C is coming. We know which F-18 Germany is getting but we'll have to see which block the US gets and if the British tree gets the CF-18, I'm sure they will. The F/A-18C and the Su-27SM2 (hopefully SM3) are going to be the big things this winter. Another big thing that might make its way to other trees are the extreme range folding wing standoff glide bombs that are being evaluated in the Chinese tree at the moment. 300 second timer. These are going to be game changers for strike missions. Also, notice the delay in Russian premiums. They aren't over looking the tree.
i hope they divide air sim into east germany and west germany, because IMO the mig 29 G should be on the nato side, Eurofighter and swiss f18 included, and everything below that east german be on the red for side
@@artruisjoew5473 State Dept approval records seem to say the CF-18's were refitted with APG-79 and given compatible launchers as well as batches of AIM-120D. So maybe too early for the CF-18 still. Depends if Gaijin wants to put the R-77M on the newer jets.
It is basically the same. It got a 20km HMD lock for radar and IRST which is nice, two extra missiles, and the IRST got downgraded again by a bug report. Gameplay wise it doesn't change all that much since its flight model is still underperforming, the R-77 is still bad at range, and the radar is incredibly slow.
Woah, it is changed with 20km HMD. now you can lock people at distance and sling R-77 having some time to notch. Before that I couldn't get a lock until it was too late. I have a much better experience with 20km HMD and now I would like to play SU-27 more often
lol, of course red team asks for planes from 2010s to fight blue planes from the 90s. if gaijin want to "save" the blue team (if that's even necessary), there is always the mach 2 bumble bee from 2005.
@@artruisjoew5473 I don't think the Reds are asking for these planes, but I'm sure they'll be added. According to the method of taking money from players, imbalanced planes are simply needed, first on one side, then on the other. Only in this case they will donate a lot to get an advantage
To be honest you could add this right now and it wouldn't really make a difference AESA or PESA doesn't matter if the missile uses its own onboard radar regardless, which is the way fox 3 works rn
@@artruisjoew5473date of introduction doesn't matter, its about competitiveness, i don't know why people still in 2024 can't cope with this and bring this up when nobody enjoyed M4 shermans vs historical MM or p51s vs 262s
If they can fix the HUD, radar range, and PL-5Eii should pull 40G rn it pulls between 30 - 35G im cool. Overall the jet is amazing. I grinded it on Patch day and just recently spaded it very good jet.
@jordancourse5102 And what I am saying is that it will barely have an impact, it would be huge if it was 50 like the R-77. But going from 35-40gs without thrust vectoring doesn't make much difference unless the launch of the missile is slow like the R-73
and much more equal bvr performance, you don't get one side packed with bvr slingers while the other still has pretty bad radar and missiles, only exception being the r27 er
bruh blue and red teams were balanced (based off of us v russia), it’s just russian players most of the time sucked, which then trickled down to the rest of the team. this is literally just op and completely not balanced
@@RT42069 if there are 10 blues and 4 reds obviously they are going to quit , dont join a match if the teams are severely outnumbered. and trust me i got both f15c/16c , mig29smt/su27sm and blue side is much much easier.
The j10 is not unbalanced and red vs blue team was not balanced before the update. The reason red quits early is because the terrible flight models and the invisible aim9m. On one hand you have the Americans with an f16 that can 1 circle anything In the game, and on the other you have the mig 29 which falls out of the sky after 1 turn. This doesn't combo well with the fact that red nations have shorter range arh missles (r77) which means they have to close the gap. If you get to the merge with anything besides an f4 phantom in the mig 29, you are dead. Also the aim9m is way to invisible. I understand it has a "smokeless" motor but that should not make it inbisible.
J10 feels like a culmination of the best every nation has to offer, 29SMTs radar, the Gripens one circle and low speed capability, F16Cs single engine power.
I wouldn't be surprised if mid next year were looking at Su30s, F15EX, and Eurofighter T4s.
The Su-30's maybe, but the F-5EX and Eurofighter, perhaps a bit extreme.
The EX will come with AIM-120D's, not even C-5's. The Eurofighter can get an early version, but people think it'll just be a twin engine Gripen, when in actuality it has the speed and power of an F-22 without the stealth. Fighting at 50,000ft is a breeze for it.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406fighting that high would also be a death sentence due to how small maps are
@jacobbaumgardner3406 the reason I say F15EX and EF T4 is because in the past Gaijin has added jets well before they should have, like the SMT could have R77-1 but it came out with R27ER. I don't think many of the avionics systems jets have today are relevant in WT or modeled, so I imagine F15EX will be about as powerful and a Su30SM but I could be wrong and they just add another F15C with a better radar and missiles. Who knows, just a wild guess
I agree that Air has found a new lease of life this year and I can only imagine the snail will double down on this.
@@RoachEatsVipers this is true. I wouldnt be surprised if the Typhoon comes out early to mid next year with AMRAAM B and ASRAAM.
As for avionics, though, the issue is that many new jets use AESA arrays, which can't be "mismodeled". The way they work means that they either don't model it at all or introduced busted radars. It's the reason why we haven't seen the Mitsubishi F-1 yet.
From what I know about the EX, it does get new engines, the same ones in the F-16C, so it'll have ridiculous thrust. A FBW system so it has the maneuverability of other FBW jets (watch the recent F-15QA demo for reference), and most of all it has an AESA, which if you know how they work will completely change how the game plays. It would be like going from a MiG-21 radar to the most recent 4th Gen radars. It's that big of a difference.
Red team is saved! I can finally rest.
Will I find videos and clips of you playing the new A-10C in the future? 🧐😄
@@sirswede366 Stay tuned 😏
Para cuando 30 kills con el J10? 😈
@@dfiestasr Si Gaijin me lo prestase por un rato, te consigo 40+
I was disappointed in the J-11 so I'm crying tears of joy now
Regarding PL-12, the missile is pretty much neck and neck with AAM-4 unless you really start to push range where AAM-4 starts to claw out an edge. Solid missile
Always a good day when Nimbal uploads
I’ve been waiting for you to post this there’s so little sim creaters
I'm just still so sad that they didn't add that early J-10 that was leaked :(
real and true
why so u can grinnd pl12 as an 800k rp mod ?
@@hemendraravi4787 nah, it would have no ARH. Would be much lower in BR :)
@@GeneralLee2000 wont change the fact that u had to grind an extra 400k rp for j10a and like 100-200k rp for mods on top of the 380k j10 , just to get pl12s on j10
@@hemendraravi4787 I don't think you understand. The early J-10 WOULDN'T HAVE those PL-12s. Its best radar missile would be the Aspide. Unless you mean to just bypassing it to get the J-10A with PL-12? In which case I don't care at all, because I would play the low tier one MUCH more.
Yeah can we please get a su27 buff? Sweep rate is god awful, FM seems far weaker than it should be… even the irst has been acting up for a few updates. Last time I flew the su27sm I was having to solely rely on ETs and 73s for kills. R-77s would only get kills at close range where they would go pitbull off the rails
I've always hoped for something like the MiG-29M (9-15) as red teams solution along side the J-10 and I'm very happy to see the J-10 show up! Im still hoping for that a MiG-29M (9-15) Prototype 156. I have been an advocate for the 29M over the 27SM because of the fact the Su-27 is well worse off in game than it should be.
Yeah I hope we get MIG 29M soon
J-11A was a very dumb choice on Gaijin's part, J-11B would have been competitive against F-15C
the pl5e2 should actually have a mix of suspended tracking and gatewidth irccms but for obvious reasons that would be completely unfair
if it was american it would've been implemented with all the features.. Gaijin continues balancing the game around their whales i guess
@@bigmemer4398 i have recently found on the data sheet that shows every (ingame) missiles irccm there is a chinese spaa with the suspended and gatewidth irccms. they very well couldve give it its full potential but decided not to
Gaijin: ok, it's time to add F18C 😂
They will add that with block 60, J-10C variant, J-16…
F18C doesn't really bring anything new or special given its lackluster kinematic performance. sure it has more AMRAAMS but unless you are trying to fire on their entire team, you don't need that many. eagles and vipers will still be far superior to the hornet.
I would say that it’s a combo of the J-10 and JF-17 that are doing it as a pair. But yeah, super glad they were added, it’s really helped even out games
funny how gaijin added 2 new dogfighters that are better than every fighters in russian tt.
@@hemendraravi4787 Gaijin hates Russia
This plane is crazy good but i think is missing two things to make it totally complete and accurate:
1 - A TD box in the cockpit hud (that green box/circle/triangle that appears in the hud indicating where the thing that you locked actually is in the world).
2 - A Helmet mounted display with info about speed, weapon selected etc...
Idk why they didn't added these features yet....
@@SuperTitoneli yeah I forgot to mention the TD box, its super annoying but with the plane showing up as "?" On RWR's and the Helmet display the plane just being the standard sight I'd say its not finished yet
the did, for the dev server, and then removed it.
Okay 10 year vet here ,and other than losing like 75% of the time ,i finally found a channel i agree with on warthunder ,the j10 totally saving the day for them infjund the f15 and quit flying for the other guys because they cant bomb
There's also the issue that the F-16's rate speeds are above 450kts, and rating at those speeds has you blacking out every 5 seconds. If Gaijin were to up the G resistance for modern jets (with modern G suits and many jers having reclined seats), tp tier jets would be much less of a pain in a dogfight.
Praise the snail for its glorious wisdom! Now gib more!
Sim is crazy rn and I’m loving it
It’s nice when you have equal or more opponents 😂
The radar alt showing in meters despite you change unit to ft is next level Gaijob
Fought you in a match the other day while you were flying the j10 (you kicked my butt every time unless I was super sneaky lol) O7 GGS and keep up the great content
It is very strange that earlier the Norwegian F-16, the Hungarian Grippen and the Japanese F-15 could not fulfill this role.
They're played by a too small minority of players
all they really need to do is to make the flanker flight model good
mom look i made it into a nimbal vid
What do you use for controls for SIM? Do you use a joystick?
He uses controller, he has videos and a discord with his control set up
The other day I realized I've been playing sim in the same rooms as you. I'll say hi next time. My in game name is almost the same as YT.
well at least i wont be alone in my m2K now
Can you make tutorial how you are selecting targets so smootly on the radar display? You are using mouse or something?
He flies it like a boss but i seen a couple of people get too slow and then show you the whole top of their jet for the gun solution. Jet looks awesome tho...... just gonna have to adjust 😂 if we survived the 1,000 flare grippen i think we will be ok.
still grinding for J10, cant wait to watch the JF17 video (if there is)
I've been waiting for this.
How do you manually adjust the TWS tracking/locking lines (whatever it's called)? I can't seem to find the controls.
its a bit weird, what you do is bind keys for "radar cursor horizontal slewing"(i cant remember its exact name) to something easy, i personally use alt + A & D for left and right slewing.
this control is MEANT to be used when you have the setting "target cyclic switching" disabled, but for our purposes it also works here by making your scan zone slew left and right.
from there, set conjunctive keybinds for "radar elevation", mine is alt + W & S for up and down respectively and now you can basically use WASD while holding alt to put your radar scan zone anywhere u want from the nose. hope my rambling helps :D
earlier than promised, this man is truly dedicated
How do you turn off "Target Destroyed" notification? Thank you for your work! Sim player here ❤
I think the Winter update is about to change things from 11.0 to 13.7. I think Russia will get the R-77-1 and more importantly, they'll be getting jets that can finally compete with the US/NATO jets. In fact it'll take things to the next level as we'll be looking at jets with 6+ datalinks with 12 ARH missiles with radars that have parity with current jets.
We know the F/A-18C is coming. We know which F-18 Germany is getting but we'll have to see which block the US gets and if the British tree gets the CF-18, I'm sure they will. The F/A-18C and the Su-27SM2 (hopefully SM3) are going to be the big things this winter.
Another big thing that might make its way to other trees are the extreme range folding wing standoff glide bombs that are being evaluated in the Chinese tree at the moment. 300 second timer. These are going to be game changers for strike missions.
Also, notice the delay in Russian premiums. They aren't over looking the tree.
i hope they divide air sim into east germany and west germany, because IMO the mig 29 G should be on the nato side, Eurofighter and swiss f18 included, and everything below that east german be on the red for side
su27sm2 wont change much if they are not gonna fix its fm.
the CF-18 can't even fire AMRAAMs so its moot at this point.
the real next step for NATO would be stealth.
@@artruisjoew5473 State Dept approval records seem to say the CF-18's were refitted with APG-79 and given compatible launchers as well as batches of AIM-120D. So maybe too early for the CF-18 still.
Depends if Gaijin wants to put the R-77M on the newer jets.
Are you going to do a revisit on the Su-27SM now that it got 12 missiles?
its still shit lol
It is basically the same. It got a 20km HMD lock for radar and IRST which is nice, two extra missiles, and the IRST got downgraded again by a bug report. Gameplay wise it doesn't change all that much since its flight model is still underperforming, the R-77 is still bad at range, and the radar is incredibly slow.
Still a turd.
Radar is still shit sadly.
Woah, it is changed with 20km HMD. now you can lock people at distance and sling R-77 having some time to notch. Before that I couldn't get a lock until it was too late. I have a much better experience with 20km HMD and now I would like to play SU-27 more often
IDK what air sim you are playing but most games have F3 flying all over the place
After they add the Su-35, it will be necessary to save the blue team
lol, of course red team asks for planes from 2010s to fight blue planes from the 90s.
if gaijin want to "save" the blue team (if that's even necessary), there is always the mach 2 bumble bee from 2005.
@@artruisjoew5473 I don't think the Reds are asking for these planes, but I'm sure they'll be added. According to the method of taking money from players, imbalanced planes are simply needed, first on one side, then on the other. Only in this case they will donate a lot to get an advantage
To be honest you could add this right now and it wouldn't really make a difference
AESA or PESA doesn't matter if the missile uses its own onboard radar regardless, which is the way fox 3 works rn
@@artruisjoew5473date of introduction doesn't matter, its about competitiveness, i don't know why people still in 2024 can't cope with this and bring this up when nobody enjoyed M4 shermans vs historical MM or p51s vs 262s
If they can fix the HUD, radar range, and PL-5Eii should pull 40G rn it pulls between 30 - 35G im cool. Overall the jet is amazing. I grinded it on Patch day and just recently spaded it very good jet.
35-40g isnt that much of a difference unless you have thrust vectoring
@@mangosuppe8706 that maybe true but it’s still better than what it is now 😂
@jordancourse5102 And what I am saying is that it will barely have an impact, it would be huge if it was 50 like the R-77. But going from 35-40gs without thrust vectoring doesn't make much difference unless the launch of the missile is slow like the R-73
And add PL-5EII real IRCCM, blue team has best IR missile for like 5-6 updates now. It's real IRCCM is even in game, on TY-90.
i have the JF17 thunder, wich is a competetive aircraft, i shred nato aircrafts with it, far better then the migs and su27 red had
The one problem is that no one has the chinese tt...I'm among those :(
When they add PL-15 the game’s gonna be unplayable
blue can always have the mach 2 bumble bee. then the game will really be unplayable.
@@artruisjoew5473 they will simply add the PL-17 and AIM-260(when it comes out)
One of the only 3 nations im not top tier in. Brug
Total laoganma victory
I went down the mlu line for no reason i guess it pay off
yes very busy
Tfw 12.3 bracket is still destroyed by fkn f14a spam
13.0 sim battles are ruined by am120 slinging harriers, and 11.3 will be worse with the a10c as long as it is 11.3.
blessed W VID
insecure AA load dogs in SIM are just annoying redditors i swear
J-10? Or *ye A-10?*
But this aircraft cant save reward in sim rn
Increase rp reward in sim gaijin!!!
war thunder can ban your account for using ge for war thunder dont get it
gaijin have said themselves that you can use it
@@ikonik5438 i tried it once and didnt get any GE and then i got a warning saying it wasnt a registered partner of gaijin
i dont understand why people will only care about top tier, i personally love playing the mirage f1c and hate playing top teir sim
Because their favorite planes are there.
and much more equal bvr performance, you don't get one side packed with bvr slingers while the other still has pretty bad radar and missiles, only exception being the r27 er
sim should not be balanced, that's kind of the point of it being a simulation of reality
We have battleratings for a reason.
bruh blue and red teams were balanced (based off of us v russia), it’s just russian players most of the time sucked, which then trickled down to the rest of the team. this is literally just op and completely not balanced
It's annoying when damn near everyone on red quits like 30 mins into the match
@@RT42069 100% that is the issue
@@RT42069 if there are 10 blues and 4 reds obviously they are going to quit , dont join a match if the teams are severely outnumbered. and trust me i got both f15c/16c , mig29smt/su27sm and blue side is much much easier.
lmao, Russian planes are inferior to US planes in nearly every way, avionics, missiles, flight performance.
The j10 is not unbalanced and red vs blue team was not balanced before the update. The reason red quits early is because the terrible flight models and the invisible aim9m. On one hand you have the Americans with an f16 that can 1 circle anything In the game, and on the other you have the mig 29 which falls out of the sky after 1 turn. This doesn't combo well with the fact that red nations have shorter range arh missles (r77) which means they have to close the gap. If you get to the merge with anything besides an f4 phantom in the mig 29, you are dead. Also the aim9m is way to invisible. I understand it has a "smokeless" motor but that should not make it inbisible.