John Deere 8R 370 fuel tank replacement
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In this video, I work on replacing a fuel tank that got a hole rubbed into it because one of the wheel wedges came loose and the tire went inward causing it to rub a hole into the tank! This is usually caused from human error and not getting them tight enough, properly torqued, or the wedges didn't get re-torqued after some hours were put on the tractor. I've never had a wheel come loose when it is properly torqued and re-torqued after driving it. But, it is what it is and needs to be fixed. A lot more stuff has to come off than I thought to get the fuel tank out. Enjoy the ride as I tackle this large project!
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where is Patrick and the staff who talk about the beans drive belt
What an absolute nightmare. Don’t think we’ll be buying anything new, stick to the old reliable ones and employ people to drive them!! Cheaper to run, easier to fix and employ people!!!😂
I thought that the plan was to remove the fuel tank from the tractor. In the end you had to remove the tractor from the fuel tank. Great job team as always.
Exactly. What a nightmare. Shame on JD for engineering such a mess.
@@jameschristie4596 Engineered to be cheaper to assemble
@jameschristie4596 what's the alternative? Pull a fuel barrel behind your implement? I think some of the 40 series use to have steel tanks right in front of the radiator and behind the rock box/weights but they weren't 192gallons either.
JD engineers: "It will be fine like we designed the fuel tank. Having to remove it is one chance in a zillion. Won't happen in the lifetime of the tractor."
No John Deere machine makes sense
That looks like an absolute nightmare
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Basically disassemble the entire machine to replace the fuel tank, that’s just crazy. Great video, thanks for filming this.
Plastic weld and black paint. Job done zeth!
no dont do it the half ass way on a machine that cost that much i'd want it done the rite way not cheap like that harbor freight shit
Wow, it sure did become a project. Not only are you a forward-thinking tech , but also have a good memory.To remember where all the fasteners , wires , tubing and brackets go back on the tractor is truly amazing on your part !!
He you tubes to remember how it goes back together..lol JK what a nightmare of a job
Its amazing that something so simple as a wheel wedge coming loose can cause so much work and expence. Its a good thing these farmers have you and Josh to fix these problems to keep the green iron turning! Excellent job as usual Zeth! Thanks for another intriguing video into these John Deere machines. 👍
Honestly I would have just sanded that area of the tank and used a mixed apoxy to patch it
I went from being a high school student watching your vids to now being an intern for sydenstrickter doing the exact same stuff you do. Pretty cool. We actually have some tractors with Sloan stickers in our shop.
Zeth for a first time removal of the fuel tank from that model, you made it look easy (which was only through the skills you guys have). Thanks again for your great videos.
Just curious, tractor looks fairly new, was this covered under warranty? How many hours were involved in this project approximately? Your skills, knowledge and experience are priceless. Great job!
Did you go home and have a nightmares about that job I think I would have it is quite inexperienced to watch somebody do that I would have to be Hands-On that's the only way I've ever done anything for the last sixty years and Hands-On would be the only way I could do something like that
I bet Deere wished they had put a metal shield around the tank beside the rotating tires. What an expense just because a wedge got a little loose. What happens when your tire grabs a rock in the field.
Agree. I might opt to fab something myself to prevent this in the future.
Or if someone wants to use snowchains…bad construction.
The issue is more due to that size tractor having the wheels adjusted to 60” spacing to suit 30” plant rows. Obviously that is the absolute minimum spacing and as planters and consequently tractors have got a lot bigger a lot of growers have changed to a wider row spacing (i.e. 36” or 1m etc) just because of this problem.
When 60” spacing was adopted equipment was much smaller, like 4 & 6 row equipment, so tractors where much smaller.
I hope this gives you some background to why this has happened.
Why do you think Deere wishes that? You think this repair is being done for free?
That's unbelievable you have to take the cab off just to remove the fuel tank. JohnDeere didn't make it easy, but the quality is there. Going to be an expensive repair. Zeth with your knowledge and skills you made it so easy. In your technical field you definitely have a lot of responsibility as a technician but your awesome. Do you bag and tag the parts so know where everything goes when it goes back together? Awesome video as always. Keep the action coming. Seeya at the next one. Stay safe!
Thanks for a absolutely great video and a huge huge project being filmed.
It was interesting and enjoyable for sure.
Wow and more wow’s.
What a huge project this was to replace the gas.
Before I go farther and don’t laugh at me, I am surprised that John Deere does not have a replacement program for a major project like this instead of the local shop doing this. The local shop has a lot of time in this. Just saying.
ZK and the new person, Zach I believe you said, my respect to you for tackling this project. You basically disassembled this tractor. Most interesting watching this. Thanks to the John Deere engineers for figuring this out, little humor there.
I appreciate the attitude you had Thur this and just getting the job done.
Believe I would have walked the other direction.
So interesting what it takes to do some of these new technology tractor jobs. Amazing.
Thanks for filming this ZK. Am totally in aw of you and Zach for doing this job.
My compliments to you ZK. My respect to you.
You take care and be safe.
Looking forward to the next video.
Thanks for everything.
The Iowa farm boy.
Steve.
A tractor full of complexities❤ awsome video thanks 👍👍🍻
Don’t mechanics miss old days of everything, plain & simple. What a disaster. Great work🤘🤘
You do good work // as a customer I always cringed at tear downs of factory assembly like this but after owning a dealership for 12 years and having a great mechanic I now believe that the re-assembly by a great tech is better than factory and a lot of fine tuning gets done which makes the re-assembly like this at least as good as the assembly line and most likely much better
Big money John deere tractor with a plastic fuel tank ,My qustion is why no steel plate fuel tank guards so the tire cant ware through the fuel tank, that tank dont look any thicker than a tank on a little lawn mower LOL.
It's good to know off gate after reading the title that the fuel tank itself didn't fail on something so new! You're a great mechanic my friend! I bid you God speed in your work!
People with your skills are amazing. It takes a special mind to be able to remember things and put everything back together. I enjoy watching you work.
I have a small JD 2025R. Excellent tractor but no where in this class.
Best regards from Castle Rock, WA
That was an amazing project. So many things to take off and remember where they go. Awesome job.
Is Deere picking up the tab on this one? Looks like a faulty design caused this problem... Great job fellas!!! Very professional!
You have perfect composure to do this work. Nice job.
What a great design. Make the entire tank out of plastic so if you get a hole or crack in it you have to disassemble ~75% of the tractor to replace it
Bad design horrible,😢 at least put a steel plate 1/8" to protect that plastic tank speccially if you need to remove the tractor from it the wheels carry up wood, stones branches ... man what the engineers where thinking, they might design tractors but never operate them in real fields...Can't imagine how much did it cost just in labor. What is super is to see you taking that machine apart.
I think I could do this👍🐄🐮. With a little more curse words😂. Would love to help you with the next tough job👍. You seem like a Great mechanic
Plastic welded a few tanks for the forestry boys. Much easier. If you’re good at it you can match factory texture.
jesus christ! absolutly insane ammount of work! i would weld some random plastic piece on the hole, coated with liquid rubber and call it a day in two hours...
btw. why has souch beast exposed plastic tank at all? let alone in close proximity of wheel?
Welcome Josh!
192 gallons at my current local price for diesel ($5.80/gal) = $1,113.60 for a single tank of fuel...holy crap, Batman!
Was there A plastic Welding Option?..i suppose its an Insurance job!. Cj UK
I think I would have tried a repair on that tank before removal. Saved you some time.
That's a lot of work for a fuel tank! Great job!
Dang that’s a huge job!! Interesting video as always Zeth! 👍👍 The 8R wheeled tractor is one of my favourite! Deere did an awesome in making it! Lots of them around these parts.
What a job. Your knowledge of the equipment is amazing. Even though you had not pulled a fuel tank from this model before, your working knowledge made it look easy. Love the channel. I really would enjoy spending a day with you. I’ll even buy the coffee and doughnuts
great video.
i would hope john deere will pay you extra for these video's for future training for there tech support.
I am neither an Engineer or Farmer, but considering how much mud can build up on tires and with rock or debris possibly imbedded would have thought a company if committed to quality and durability would have left large space between tires and frame, fenders, hoses or any other part then further protecting those items closest with sturdy steel shields. And if your going to use plastic parts anywhere, figure they are going to need replacement sooner than later and place them for reasonable access.
Yah-
-I am unable to comprehend why there is no "skid-plate" type protection for the plastic part of the tank facing the wheels.
Was thinking the same thing that it should have some sort protection for the tank.
what a shit design.. such a simple thing to cause that much damage.. even some mud build up on the tires is going to wear through the tanks.. these tractors just keep getting worse
Your worker/helper shows a lot of effort. If he see's this, ZK's work is common sense. You'll
get there.
You know Zeth, I bleed green as much as the next guy but Wow deere engineers can screw the pooch in a hurry on this one. Thanks for sharing the fight on this one. Catch you on the next one. Have a great week
Great video. Nice to meet Josh ! You two show great patience on a complex job like this . I sure enjoy watching .
Great video Zeth ,your patience and forward thinking helps many of us put with our daunting projects.. keep it up.
Well, that looks like a product update on the way (or at least an idea for a proposal): make a final stop on the shaft/wedge, so the wheel can't damage other inner components when things are starting to go south for whatever reason.👍🏻💪 And a tank repair set would be nice 😜 You two look like a well oiled machine, tackling this challenge. Great video, as always.
Great video. I really like how you remaind cool, calm and collected in the face of the giant jigsaw puzzle you just completed. Look forward to the next video.
That's just a different looking tank than what used to be on the 4020 4520 4620 era 😂. Could of changed them in three hours😊. A real good video!
Thank you ZK Mastertech, another great video, 50,000 subscribers will come soon and then on to 100,000, best regards from Scotland, George.
Thanks for all your videos.
I'm doing this very same job & it's great to show the customer what's involved.
Thanks!
It had to be a mad scientist just to make the injection mold to create that plastic tank. How can anybody afford to pay for the labor of this very complex repair. I have worked on a lot of difficult heavy equipment, but this takes the cake. You guys will always have a job, if JD can continue selling equipment that takes so much time to repair. No wonder JD don't want farmers making their own repairs. The cost of labor for these new machines is bound bring in millions. If the farmer charged JD for loss of production I bet thay would make machines on the KISS principle. In the manufacturing enviroment if a contractor stalls production they have to pay dearly.
Do you know what else they do? They put the pistons INSIDE the motor. You wouldn't believe what has to be removed to get those...
why don't you clean the machines before you fix them?
That's probably the most ridiculous moulded fuel tank assembly I've ever seen. Who the Heck designs such cr@p??
Oh ,of course....?🤣🤣🤪
Dude you are worth your weight in gold . My uncle was a long time ( International Tractor) mechanic and he was loved by the framers in our small town.
John Deere 8R 370 fuel tank removal guide.
1. Remove everything else.
2. Replace old tank with new one.
3. Reattach everything else.
Pretty much! lol
Yeeeaaa I’d be plastic welding that if I had to pay the bill. Lol
Man that is ridiculous! Good job on this video though, I was highly invested in seeing the progress of this one haha.
Heck that’s a brand new tractor to be having issues already, I see a lot of people are having issues with those seats kicking the auto steer out
Beautiful engineering. Well done John Deere.
As always, great content. I don’t read all the comments, so maybe you’ve covered this before….but it would be interesting if you spent 1 minute on total hours required for a repair, and the cost within a thousand or two. And, was it under warranty or not.
One word says it all. WOW ! It takes tremendous patience for sure. Thank you for sharing your day(s). 😊
Why doesn’t John Deere put a steel plate in between the tank and tire because that’s a lot of work you had to do and it probably is pretty expensive. Specially, for the owner.
The tractor is still new enough to be covered under John Deere “power guard” warranty.
Una gran trabajo y un rompecabezas con todas las conexiones, saludos desde México y tu gran equipo.
so basically they put a fuel tank there and built a tractor around it
Hopefully... the tractor was under warranty. Should put a spacer on the inside of the wheel so that failure can't happen again.
It needs steel parts instead of plastic!
I can only imagine what it must have taken to design that tank!! Wow! Every nook and cranny used for fuel capacity! Good job, Zeth and team!
More like, what asshole designed the tanks
All it took was one idiot engineer that drew it on a paper and never turned a screw in his/her life.
That was a good video zeth alot of work to take it out but good job guys
This is a very interesting channel!
Amazing how parts are fabricated to fit around various other fittings so they all fit like a glove, great work
An automotive engineer once told me that car fuel tanks are quite literally designed by having the CAD software "select empty space" and putting a form around it as a first step. Of course that gets touched up a little bit and made cheaper to produce, but that's how they end up in the shapes they are. I can well imagine John Deere doing the same with this fuel tank, plus tidying up the lines and harnesses on top a little bit to go in more cleanly.
I just want to say thank you for some awesome videos. I was a heavy equipment repair tech. I'm retired now I enjoy watching the videos in the new technology. Amazing what you have to do to do some simple tasks. Either way appreciate all the videos. Take care be well.
Glad you like them!
Great job! Very impressiv how you handel everything.
Awwh....I think "Taryl Putty" comes to mind!! LOL. That is one huge under taking for sure. Thanks for filming it.
I'm so glad I retired from Deere 10 years ago. 👍
At some point the machine becomes so complicated that the level of complexity creates a diminishing return for the owner in respect to maintenance.....
That is one crazy looking fuel tank,adds whole new meaning ,"to make it fit".
If I was 1/10th as intelligent as you, I would be a Genius.
I really admire you. Thank You.
Hi Zeth, another awesome video! I have the same feedback on the audio quality from your new camera as the last video - it sounds like it is under water or muffled, which is causing it to sound bad. Check out 10:30 into the video and you should see what I mean. Other than that, keep up the excellent work buddy! Really appreciate your videos to unwind from a stressful day!
I have a new mic I'm going to try.
Some of those plastic tanks are weldable .. that tank might be made of ABS plastic .. which can be welded .. to do that welding all it would have taken ..is to remove that side tires and about a hour of labour welding ... the other thing is .. do you want a repair or new ... .. my 2 cents !! plus tax
ZK.
Thank you so very much for the walk along videos. I am an old farm boy and we had to fix our farm equipment because we could not afford to have our equipment repaired by the tractor dealer. I enjoy watching you make those repairs to the big green iron. We had the other green and red iron plus some orange MM combin.
Please take care. Keep that iron moving along. 👈👍😎
I’m actually trying to get on as an apprentice at my local Sloans you have any tips for me that you wish you would of know when you first started? Also i just started watching you and im thankful that your make these videos because now I can go into the apprenticeship knowing some stuff because of your videos
Thanks! What store are you applying at? Best advice: Do whatever job they tell you to do and do it well. Don’t let anybody out work you. Lead by example. Listen to the old guys. They have forgotten more than you’ll ever know. Don’t be afraid to ask questions. If you work with someone that is unpleasant, don’t let it get to you. There’s always going to be that person you don’t get along with no matter where you go. It’s how you handle tough situations that defines you as a technician and a person. If you borrow a tool more than once, you better buy it. This is a job to be passionate about. Taking care of customers equipment like it’s your own. If your just wanting a job and a paycheck this isn’t the job for you. Make a name for yourself that the farming community will talk about at the coffee shops, in a good way. When you put on that uniform, you represent all of us, remember that. Sometimes we have to fix our co-workers mistakes, but that’s Sloan’s mistake and we must all take responsibility as a team and make it right. You can hash it out when you get back to the shop, but don’t throw anybody on your team under the bus in front of a customer. It only makes your team look bad. I hope that helps and look forward to seeing you someday. Good luck!
@@ZKMasterTech The one in White Hall, Il and thank you for your response and advice but I sadly have to say I didnt get it. They told me they dont want to do anything with me until the Fall and I can go in there sometime in the fall and might possibly get the job
@@ZKMasterTech I would of been fine not getting it except for the last month and a half they've been feeding me the stuff like yea we really need technicians and the were trying to get your generation in here to become techs and stuff like and then tell me nah wait and try again in the fall so now im applying at a different Sloans
flex tape cant help the tank
Just keep doing what your doing. Well done.
I wonder the price of repairs? Probably over 10 thousand... im assuming of course. A stainless steel plate and jb weld or nut rivet would have beeen way cheaper. Obviously i dont know owns it and whatever but oh man that looks expensive.
A Masterpiece of Engineering !!! But Boy its complicated if its gotta be stripped
So if you ever have to do transmission work on an 8R, will you have to remove all this?
No, you roll the engine away, then pull the transmission out. Very thankful for this design
Excuse me howe can raely happens? CEO'S Peter Eriksson Sweden Europe 😅😮😮?
Your a bad man ZK! I got frustrated because I had to remove a foot board on my motorcycle to take of the primary cover. 😂
You are one fine tech. Constantly learning and improving. Your excellent interpersonal skills help a lot too. Thanks for the content.
Great content. Curious I’m assuming it was still under warranty but what did the tank cost $
Would you say that some assembly will be required. 🤮🤮🤮
Good luck 👍👍👍
Wtf design. I don't think whoever designed this piece of shit could have made it more complicated and harder to maintain, which of course is paid for by the farmer.
May we know how much you charged for this job, if it is not a trade secret?
D3ar Sir's this must been a lot of man hoùr's in the job?from Peter Eriksson Sweden Europe 😅😮😮😊!
That tank is only two gallons larger than the twin 100 gallon tanks on my International. Mine are easier to remove, though..........
You are a real pro which is very rare in this day and age,very passionate and professional excellent work and video.
Talk about labor intensive, Great vid, keep up the good work!!!
I wonder how many hours labour John Deere quote to this job and how long it actually takes.
Man im glad we run massey ferguson tractors
All newer tractors are the same. Mike Mitchell had to replace a pump. They also had to remove a pile of stuff on a Fendt
600kg of Fuel aprox wow ... wonder what the burn rate is at rated rpm that that transmission has to run at ... quite frightening i am guessing lol ... i am thinking 727ltrs Diesel is not going to last very long ... 😂😂😂😂😂
Awesome vid..... you'd think there would be a shoulder or a spacer on the axle to keep that from happening.....
Nice to see good mechanics doing great work!
Greetings from West Texas, No doubt the guys shadowing you are benefiting greatly, on a side note I’ve seen where the gear on the upper inner sleeve won’t engage the splines on the axle due to the welds on the tabs on the sides of the gear breaking, hope nothing but the best for you and your channel 👍
John Deere engineers - How can we absolutely screw our mechanics and owners over
Let's put a plastic, 190 gallon fuel tank, 2 inches away from a large drive wheel with absolutely no protection. And let's go ahead and make it so you have to strip absolutely everything from the rear of the engine back just to replace it 😂😂😅😅🤣🤣
Could do with an Endfloat Stop Collar to prevent the Wind Off Dog loosing tooth contact !! which would prevent all this shit 😃 Great Video !! Thanks for Posting !
Ñot a mechanical genius like you. But i would have fixed that tank in place. Tried to finger out the material. Plastic or aluminum?