How Powerful Are The Lovecraftian Gods?
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- The Lovecraftian gods have the reputation of being some of the strongest characters in fiction. But just how powerful are they?
Well the only way to answer that question is to read all the stories Lovecraft wrote, just to power scale these characters. But surely, no one is nerd enough to do that... right?
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:00:34 - Cthulhu
00:20:09 - Shub
00:27:26 - Nyarlathotep
00:41:30 - Azathoth
00:53:54 - Yog-Sothoth
Link to my video about the good guys in Lovecraftian mythos:
• Who Are The Good Guys ...
All of Lovecraft's stories are in the public domain so they all can be freely accessed online using this website:
en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author...
If you want to verify any excerpt i showed in this video, always select "read all chapters" (if given the option) and use Ctrl + F (if in desktop) so that you can find the quotes faster.
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This video is a combination of 5 different videos i made previously. All music used for this video has been properly credited in each of those 5 videos.
If you want to know the name of a specific song used for this video then check the description of my 5 videos on the lovecraftian gods.
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But can they defeat… boat kun
Boat kun >>>>>>>>> azatoth
They can never defeat bout kun
@@pinksemporium3175but what about truck kun in an isekai?
@@iker9095 He died and got isakied
@@user-po5eh6uf6g nooooooo
According to my head cannon, Yog-Sothoth is guarding the other gods from the unfathomable being that is Goku
our hero son CHADku is so cool and strong!
@@literarywho Yog-Fraudothoth
CHADku i kneel @@literarywho
@@daybreak1561Frog-yadothoth! I don't know, what are we doing right now exactly? 😂
and Goku is making sure that Shaggy cannot use more than 0.1% of his full power?
video:
20% telling us about the other gods
80% telling us you don't have to go crazy if you look at the other gods
Apparently, people don't even have the mental fortitude to understand where they are wrong, much less be able to look upon the other gods...
Granted, I wouldn't want to be in their path, I'd be dead real quick, as would 99% of all people here... However, I've seen some sh!t in my day and Cthulhu is low on the list...
@@billstephens396 fuck you mean 99%??
@@gowgox9362 Why pull out your hair? It's not a good show...
@@gowgox9362 anger issues 😂
@@billstephens396 yeah, no, dude. The way Cthulhu is depicted is not even close. That is why Lovecraftian horror is indescribable and why most of the media based on Lovecrafts work fail. There is no way human mind can picture it, so we just slapped octopus on Shrek and gave it wings.
Lovecraft refused to ever use any words that were invented in his century, seeing his work explained with memes would have sent him into a coma
Imagine him seeing a room full of ethnic minorities enjoying and discussing his work.
He had to have been autistic there is no other explanation for that
@@thegatorhator6822 I have no idea why this made me laugh so hard lol
@@thegatorhator6822 depends, he chilled out later in kife
@@l0sts0ul89 it's a joke, doesn't need fact checking lmao
Taking power scaling into consideration, that boat is between Cthulhu and Shub.
Realistically, the boat isn't above a dreamer. It only damaged Chtulu's physical form. Not his actual form in the void. The list is valid
Ia, Ia, Yachtulu, Canoen!!!
Except no.
@@levbiggs what if there is a Void Boat
@@levbiggs what about a boat Made by a dreamer?
Since Cthulhu needs blood to remain in our relm does that mean if I had a REALLY big needle I could just take all of his blood?
Pretty much.
No…
But then you have Cthulhu blood outside and that's even worse
What if I drink it?@@juter1122
The forbidden juice.
I read Lovecraft's works before any exposure to the mainstream interpretation of it, or to the community, or to people who have vaguely heard something about Lovecraft, or to works "inspired" by Lovecraft. So to me,it felt like this:
In a weird twist, Dreamlands are the "true" world, and Material world is a "playground", something akin to a theater or a masqerade where everyone plays a specific role. Same entity can at one point play the role of a human, and then just change the costume and be the star or whatever it wants - all figuratevely speaking, of course. Everyone is so deep into this performance they don't percieve the world outside of their current role, and the props are exquisite to the point of being mindbreaking, but at the end of the day, it's still just a play.
So that's why a Dreamland rat can eat someone who used to be a god-king in the Material World - power scaling in Dreamlands is completely separate from the Material World power scaling. And, well, that rat isn't really just a rat because Dreamlands operate on a logic that has little to do with stuff like evolution or even coherent timestream.
Also that explains why people in Material world tend to get a tiny bit unhinged when they encounter things or forces from Dreamlands and beyond: because to someone who's deep into their Material world "role" it is very confusing and immersion-breaking, akin to an actor having to deal with some random dude in the audience throwing tomatoes at them for example.
That's beautiful - mindbending in the way that Lovecraftian thoughts should be
I love you take on the Material World as a play with costumes. Well said.
So all the OTHER gods and elder gods want is to RP in the material world? I mean.... it makes sense seeing as cthulhu is literally an octopus fursona
Interesting comment. I’m writing some stories that involve Lovecraft’s creations, since I thought that making creatures so powerful with weird names would simply remind everyone of him and they’re free use, and most of them in a Void are completely amoral and are just trying to have fun however they can. Somewhat how Shinigamis act in Death Note. I wasn’t aware of that piece of lore but it fits well.
@@draconomega "other gods" mean... also because you get mad im doing this deliberitly to piss you off. :D
Ok but are they strong enough to handle the allegations of idiots thinking they have the passive ability to make everyone who sees them go crazy? Truly an endless battle.
Almost the entire mainstream media believes this for some reason.
And that Azathoth dreams reality
imo at this point we are kinda just coming up with new lore. like imo people can think what ever they want about the mythos as long as they're enjoying it and it's characters.
I do enjoy the ability to make one go crazy. I think it falls in line with us being 3 dimensional physical and ignorant beings and our brains just can’t comprehend such creatures if we’re unprepared for it. So we would just go crazy. And how in some stories beings that communicate telepathically break the minds of beings that can’t causing them to go crazy
@@Heavenly_DemonGod Fungi from Yuggoth
I very much would like to see you cover the "Good" gods of the Cthulhu Mythos.
EDIT: Please stop trying to correct me on the notion of there being good gods in the Yog Sothothery. I know you can't really call any of them really "good", that's why I put "Good" in quotation marks.
Literally Who, the person with the frog avatar in the video this comment is on, referred to "good guys" in the Lovecraft universe in the same manner I did at the very end of the video, he said he may do a video on them, and I wanted to express my interest in such a video in the same manner he did.
Stop being a smart ass, please.
you mean the nodens
Also Bast.
@@tomkerruish2982 The guy literally alluded to the "good" gods at the end of this video, and somewhere else in th Nyarlathotep section, even alluded to Abrahamic God, it's not like my comment came out of nowhere.
@@danield.d.d.daniels7292 I haven't gotten there yet. I just finished the Cthulhu section.
It is foolish to place primal notions of good or evil on even the "good" gods of yogsothothry. Yes not "cthulhu" mythos like you say.
Yog-Sothoth has no friends, making him the weakest Shonen Anime character.
19:50 Oh, I always thought that the characters were unreliable, and the creature in Call of Cthulu was just a regular C'thulian waking up for a midnight piss.
They probably are
Then you understand the story 👍
That makes more sense. It probably was one just awakened. The very last of HPL´s stories say that the great elders used atomic weaponry to battle them Cthulhians, Carkash-ton in his "The trail of Cthulhu" ends the book with humans nuking Cthulhu into oblivion, so probably it wasnt even Cthulhu itself.
you added content dude, this is not just a compilation, this is DIVINE
It was a very good series and i learned a lot about Lovecraft, now pls make about world of darknes power scaling
guys he hearted it! it could actualy be happening! 🤩
YES!!!!!!
I second that!
Yes the world of darkness
Now its so much easier to rewatch all now🔥
watch out dude, there's a fire next to you!!
@@trime1015lol
I think you could make more characters like Hastur and Nodens,they are really cool too, I keep asking for videos about underworld gods and dragons from different cultures
I would also like to know more about Nodens as he is quite unique when compared to many gods in the Lovecraft mythos.
...and Hastur is the lovecraftian interpretation of "The King In Yellow."
@Rowan1002 norsens and hastur weren't even created by Lovecraft anyways.
@@jays903 the more you know.
@jays903 (Not to be that guy but) yes Hastur wasn’t created by lovecraft, having been only name dropped by him once. but Nodens has actually been established to be in the Mythos appearing in I believe the dream quest of unknown Kadath.
I love everyone of these videos especially the ones from this series and now they're all in the same place. How convenient! I appreciate you clarifying certain things, like the use of the term "Other Gods". It's easy to forget that these stories were written about a century ago and have been utilized in popular fiction for a long time. Many of the concepts have been misinterpreted by later authors and publishers. Thanks again for making these videos and keep up the great work!
I think the Presence and his son Lucifer are given how grand and huge the DC totality is. Like Lucifer and Micheal have feats on par with or greater than Marvel's TOAA considering his cosmology is so much smaller then theirs. It's just a single multiverse that was originally one universe.
@@diamantemrobinsonTheir Verse < The Azathoth + The Yog Sothoth
13:46 Love the fact that you added the Winged Dragon Of Ra as the representator of the egyptian gods
It is described as "of Ra", it's his pet falcon.
I would really like a video about who you think are the strongest characters in all of fiction. The reason for that is that I have a child brain and I am excited at the thought of "the biggest number", but I think I am not the only one considering what this channel is doing, so that video idea is probably a good one.
Me personally I'd say either Lovecraft-verse or SCP-verse is the strongest in fiction, the reason I say SCP-verse is just because they have a few characters who constantly ascend narrative layers which is kinda ridiculous in itself as each narrative is a dimensional layer.
The strongest character is Bob.
Bob's characteristics are being the strongest in all of fiction.
The problem with this is the fact you have to compete with Cultivators which are basically Buddah but infinitely stronger.
@@originalfitzy5567 See, but anyone can create their own fictional universe and make them stronger by looking at those universes and tailor their own creation to be stronger.
Senseless discussion when you start getting to infinite or irrelevant numbers
This was a great video, thank you for creating this.
I’m personally wondering where the love craft verse would scale for warhammer 40K and Bo Bo Bo, I would love to hear your analysis on it.
rip webcamparrot
Lovecradt verse would floor 40k pretty easy. The only stuff that could go to around chuthulu at most are the chaos gods and gork and mork. Tho if the "can't just pop into realspace" applies necrons could screw with many manifestations but a dreamer would be to much to handle even for a full power C'tan (if the dreamer is competend)
For the godsmentioned before their biggest problem is that they are dependend on mortal believers for strength/existence so screwing with that could depower/kill them.
I’d say that the 40k cosmology is at biggest the size of the dreamlands o earth
This is epic -- I've really only ever heard the pop culture version of C'thulu, so even just the terms "Other Gods" and the material/dreamscape/ordered universe cosmology is great to hear.
Going to have to watch this at least a couple times, I've been trying to build a D&D Warlock who's patron is definitely inspired by lovecraft but still different enough to be its own thing. It's a non-entity floating among all the possibilities that never were, never will be, and have never been thought. It has no name, it has no thoughts, it by definition does not exist. It exists beyond the D&D cosmology, and even beyond the DM's knowing. Only the tiniest fractions of its infinite possibilities ever break away and enter the world -- enter the players around the table's imaginations. It's goal, as much as it has one, is to exist. An impossible task -- by definition, I can't imagine the possibilities that will never be imagined. Whatever Lovecraftian lore brings to the table, this Patron is everything else that didn't make it.
And my character has caught a glimpse of this truth. He understands, on some level, that his D&D reality is mutable and ephemeral. He exists because I conceive of him. I conceive of him because I have the smallest glimpse of this impossible non-entity of infinite possibilities that will never be. He's a Warlock serving this patron by attempting to bring about its One Goal - existence. But he must try, because he has no free will -- only my will. And I must do my best to make this character memorable and bring new thoughts into existence because that is what this entity desires. Just as I must share this idea with you, to spread this idea and by doing so spread its influence, so that perhaps we may together come closer to brining all of unreality into existence.
I'm trying to take that idea, and tell it exclusively through the D&D character's perspective. Because I think it's more compelling that way, which ultimately serves the entity by spreading its ideas and influence to more people. My Warlock does not know he's a D&D character; he does not know I exist -- except perhaps for the small glimpses that I allow.
All of the craziness of D&D's Far Realms, and Lovecraft, and SCP -- someone has thought those thoughts. They are infinitely more real than all the things that will never be thought, and they are likewise an impossibly infinitesimal fraction of all the unthought thoughts and unreal things.
This is an impossible battle for the unnamed entity. His vast non-existence can never meaningfully be brought into existence. But even the smallest parts are a win.
Point is, (aside from sharing this concept so that you might think a thought that would otherwise have never been thought), I want to keep refining this concept. So I will gladly watch this video and make a pass over my homebrew lore to try and make it better. To make it more ... effective.
That concept is amazing. That is all. Have a good day.
I hope you found a way to express your idea because it truly sounds amazing. I would love to play a campaign like this.
Though I personally do not like this interpretation of Cthulhu. My basic take is that most eldritch beings are simply incomprehensible, with few exceptions. And Cthulhu want do something on earth, through his representatives. But everything else is opinion of crazy people. It is entirely possible that what boat encountered, was not even Cthulhu. In fact that is the most logical answer.
same boat, i was making a GOOlock that got SO MUCH flavor for their patron from this one video...
to bad the campaign got canned
From my understanding it is not a power that these entities posses that drives those who view them mad, but rather they lose there sanity trying to comprehend something that is beyond a mortal three dimensional mind to do so.
That is why only some go mad when viewing them, those who are very imaginative and smart or those who are very dim and simple can view them with the viewers sanity being mostly intact because they either have enough understanding to grapple with what they are seeing or are just too dense to understand what they are looking at.
The majority of people are just smart or imaginative enough to see part of the truth of the Other/Out Gods forms, but not enough to handle what that means and it breaks their minds.
Thank you for trying to explain the vast mysteries of this mythos in a way this lowly one can start to comprehend ( kind of).
The sheer mass of info is astounding and is clearly a work of love. Thank you
First video of yours I ever watched, and surprisingly, one of the best videos on Lovecraft mythos I've ever seen!
Keep this style and coherency up and you'll be seeing the Silver button in no time
i am glad to have notifications to this channel, the other gods rant is always great to hear
loved how you made your points VERY clear!
Given how Lovecraft himself had encouraged those in his friend group to use his concepts and how he would also sometimes reference their works, I feel that claims of a hard canon within the Cthulhu Mythos tend to feel silly. Still great work on the video itself, definitely helps to put some stuff into perspective regarding where a lot of the entities within the Mythos compare.
I feel the same,like you said he encouraged people to add on to his verse meaning the things they said should not be ignored,I think a lot of Lovecraft fans feel like only the stuff made by H.P himself should count even though that goes against what he himself wanted,I do think his stuff takes precedence but many take it way too far imo(I do like these videos though,they are super informative)
Yes encouraging fanfiction is good. Enjoying fanfiction is good. Saying fanfiction OVERRIDES base canon is bad.
@@thegatorhator6822 What if the writer says that fanfiction IS canon?
@@Alex_Barbosa then he's stupid
But what if the fanfiction was written by a minority
AEHOOOOOOOOO, a 1 hour video about powerscaling Lovecraft, thank you very much!
thanks for this video, i love these super specific niche hour long videos about a topic I never cared about before
amazing you actually made a collage, i casually saw your channel a day ago to see whats up and now i see this, win. watched full hour to have a bit of fun, gg
I love this power scaling, finally someone that explains lovecraft power scaling, amazing video
The image you used from Shub shows you're a man of culture. Love that one
I've been waiting for this video for YEARS THANK YOU
I love your videos it funny and entertaining asf. Keep up the good work my guy
I was not familiar with the lovecraft mythos and to my shame i must admit that the few things i knew included the "Azatoth dreams reality" idea. I really enjoyed this video.
same here, i heard about yog being so much higher rhan azathoth, yet azathoth makes the univers by napping and didnt think much past that
This video is so well made! I've gone through the entire thing twice now.
Always nice to see an upload of yours
27:15 “by using the ancient and almost forgotten art known as reading” is getting real 💀
Calling Cthulhu a "Great Old One" or "Outer God" and believing that he has an insanity aura, has the same nerd-culture energy as DnD calling an arming sword a longsword and believing that a bastard sword is actually longer than a LONGsword.
Other god and Outer god debate is semantics, and they are interchangeable in normal discourse as they refer to the exact same pool of beings with the difference of one being literally referred, whilst the other one has gotten popular due to a piece of media practically opening up another opportunity for newcomers to enjoy the media. It'd more nerd-culture energy having to be patronizing when correcting someone less knowledgeable but that's probably a biased perspective on a lot of these comments.
Thank you. I do not know what else can I say. You are a beautiful soul. Keep up the good work!
this is so underrated man, you deserve every view and like you get and way more
This man Lovecraft really saw foreign gods from other cultures and said "I'm gonna make them the most nightmare inducing degree of op so everyone else can feel the same fear I do when an immigrant asks me for change"
When I was looking at this from the comment preview from the vid player it just ended as "make them the most nig-" and I was very concerned with the next statement.
Tbf all gods are nightmarish entities when you actually think about them. Or just read the stories.
On the topic of the insanity some people get from the lovecraft beings, a wonderful video I watched described the 3 states people could have when met with something overwhelmingly greater than them. Cosmic horror, cosmic indifference, and cosmic bliss. We see people in the mythos go through these different stages. Some go insane, some are shaken but held it together, then those who go full on worshipping these greater things because the sheer enormity of it brings an unfathomable amount of bliss. To be one with something greater than you.
Great, exelent video. Enjoyed every second of it, thankyou for it Mr. frog from yuggoth.
Ngl the editing is so awesome. Just thinking how much time this video took is gonna make me insane
If everything is part of a creature, that includes all desire to not act & all desire to lose.
In its own way, despite being the most powerful, it also makes you the weakest because you cannot intentionally do anything with that power by nature of that power. You could then, presumably, be beaten by anything which lacks at least one of those flaws (or even only has those two flaws to a lesser extent).
Which makes sense considering the nature of stories, where the characters (protagonist or antagonist) all seek to "win" within the setting, in some way/shape/form. Every setting, to some extent (every "staircase") wishes to be conquered or otherwise 'beaten'.
I'm glad that you made it a point to scrub the myths of both the passive madness and Azathoth dreaming reality. I never bought either case since if they were, then how could Cthulhu be beaten by a guy in a boat with him looking at him several times and Azathoth being imprisoned, blind and stupid. If he was dreaming reality, then why is he imprisoned? Is he into some BDSM or something?
I should add that this video is really entertaining, and I'll be diving into more of your content very soon! Keep it up!
pretty great video, thanks for the information!
Huge fan of your channel man.
Right? He's so good I'm wondering why he has only 30k subs.
@@szonator
probably because i only upload once a month, sometimes.
if there's one thing the youtube algorithm hates, it's inconsistent upload schedules. the algorithm rewards channels that upload regularly and consistently.
once you understand this, it's not shocking that a channel like mine barely gets recommended to people.
not that i care; i don't upload content for the views. i do it because it entertains me.
@@literarywho
If algorythm won't recommend you we need to do it
@@literarywho A good mind set to have
an hour long literaly who video is the best christmas present i could ask for
merry christmas brother.
@@literarywho so would a random dreamer be able to solo the dragon ball verse since he scales above zeno
@@literarywho Regard argument why Yog is evil there is actually a logical prove of that. If HE is the Other Gods and they are mostly evil, then Yog must be the same as them. Idea that he is not come from misconception that he protect from them. What actually is not the case.
Amazing video, incredible channel!
It’s always a good day when your videos come out
So you're telling me you're repackaging 5 of your previous videos with some edits as a single 1 hour long video?
THAT'S MY GOAT!
This about to do NUMBERS in the Algorithm!!
Even on the scale of Immortal beings, Cthulhu being vigintillions of years old is probably one of largest scales of time any fictional being have been alive for. I can't think of even a single other fiction that has even close to that much time scale in it. Not that Lovecraft necessarily populated that timescale in the same way that the Dune series populates it's timescale.
Great video man, subscribed!
I swear your content never misses
The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath is one of my favorite stories of all time. And having read it a few years after playing Dark Souls, I immediately felt that the world of Dark Souls, especially the interconnections of the locations, was inspired by that story. I don't know if that's really the case though.
Would be cool to also talk about those by other authors such as Clark ashton smith or frank belknap long
(and nodens lol) nonetheless pretty great
I didn't think this was gonna be good. Dude! This is awesome 👌
Great video
"Thank you for giving me an hour of your life"
Thank you for making that hour for me! 😊
Ancient gear truly is the best archetype...
based fellow ancient gear enjoyer.
Good stuff. Many thanks.
Thank you for this
Wait wait, weren't the deep ones worshipped Dagon?
Also the editting was legendary
Nah, I’d win.
1 hour video from my fav powerscaler, YES SIR!
Nice. I already watched these but I'll play this video in the background later to give it more watchtime
i'd have to argue, you can't say that azathot don't dream reality just because lovecraft didn't said it himself, he never said anything in direct contradiction either so it's on each individual person to interpret as they read, even your quote that naruto and goku aren't the same person is matter of interpretation, maybe all shonen primary protagonists are a reincarnation of goku and you can't see it, maybe just one changing note of one instrument can change the laws of physics and nobody would remember it has been different once, maybe he needs to awake in his dream to eat the other gods because if he awoke for real nothing would exist except himself and he need to dream his preys to have something to eat.
one thing is sure, lovecraft imagined those being to be scary, driving you crazy not just by changing your perception of reality but by changing the reality itself, you can't tell facts about a being that is defined by mystery, saying azathot don't dream reality as a fact because lovecraft didn't said it is like saying spiders can't fly because you never saw it, but yet you live in a world where even humans fly, just saying...
as you said in 100 stories he never said azathot dream reality, go on then and show us the one story where he specifically said that azathot don't dream reality, a fact for a fact, not once it is said so either, so the logical conclusion, as you said, isn't the one you concluded unfortunately, but is that he left that to the reader interpretation, as he was aware of the existence of the stories of dunsany but chose to neither confirm nor infirm that it could be the same scenario, he was aware that it was a possibility his readers could think of, since lovecraft enjoyers had a high chance to try to read dunsany work too, but decided not to prove them wrong
I don't think the texts back up the claim that Yog-Sothoth is the setting itself and includes creatures in the void. While Yog Sothoth is the All-in-one, the Void and the Chaos exist outside of the ordered universe, and could easily not count as "everything". The family tree for Azathoth which you referenced shows that Azathoth is the grandfather of Yog-Sothoth and predates him, which means that Azathoth created everything, which then created Yog Sothoth, of which Azathoth is just a fragment.
It makes more sense to me that Yog-Sothoth is the ordered universe instead.
One of HPL's letters to Clark Ashton Smith from 1930 back this up - "Azathoth, the mindless Lord of Nighted Chaos who is the father of all other horrors & is coeval with the Ultimate Abyss itself;"
This confirms the family tree and that Azathoth is the creator of Yog-Sothoth, and your own logic that the creator of something has all the power of the thing it created puts Azathoth at least at a tie with Yog Sothoth, no?
The family tree is a joke intended, and Lovecraft explicitly says that Yog-Sothoth is "Omnipotent" since he is the only character described by Lovecraft with that word solely. So with that proof is more than enough.
@@Renzo-eq9bu then logically either the creator does not have all the powers of the created, yog-sothoth is not the only omnipotent being, or Azathoth is beyond omnipotent. I lean towards the first, but this video bases everything on the second.
@@TwistedFox42 Well Lovecraft did not really focus on world building. Safe to say the factual reference we can only have are his implicit or explicit statements.
Also there can only be one Omnipotent being in a verse, the word "Omnipotent" is used loosely around fictional verses without that character being omnipotent itself you cant just use the "Omnipotent" word that often.
I've searched every lovecraft books for that word description and he ONLY did describe it implicitly to "Yog-Sothoth" as Omnipotent, despite lacking feats.
Statements might be not enough but the clues the author leave behind are substancial.
@@Renzo-eq9buWhich is why I quoted Lovecraft directly explaining that Azathoth (an addition to the family tree that was later than yog-sothoth and after the omnipotent label) was the father of everything, and was the same age as the ultimate abyss itself. A location that exists outside of the ordered reality where Yog-Sothoth is considered omnipotent.
This video ranks almost every single great old one based on their power, WITH the assumption that the creator/progenitor has the same power as the created.
Since Azathoth is the creator of Yog-Sothoth, this video MUST claim that it has at least the same level of power, if not more. This is a direct contradiction of it's entire ranking system.
I personally don't agree with this idea, I can easily imagine that a created is stronger than the creator.
@@TwistedFox42A lineage is a human concept which does not apply to the likes of these beings, which is a appropriate theme for the Cthulhu Mythos Cosmic horror. Lovecraft also said in his letters to Willis Conover (September 1, 1936) that Yog-Sothoth has no parent at all. I (even the majority of Lovecraft enthusiast) don't always treat the family tree as something serious since it is not a good reference, an example in the family tree would be how come lovecraft is a direct descendant of Nyarlathotep in the first place? If we use common sense, that is just an inside joke between lovecraft and his pen pals. By default since the family tree is a joke intended by the author, therefore Yog-Sothoth was never the Grandchild of Azathoth.
But hey, at least you acknowledge that Yog-Sothoth is Omnipotent.
This is a great video.
thanks G i learned quite a lot today
I know that the elder gods don’t automatically drive you insane when you look at them, but the fact that you COULD go insane when you look at them means that any character who fights them has to do so with their eyes closed or take a risk to their mental health.
Probably every character takes some level of psychic damage
From a quick look at the Dreamlands wiki it seems more likely that the Cats dream the waking world, but that seems unlikely as well
the lovecraft wiki mixes lore from multiple sources and writers to create what is essentially their own headcanon.
for crying out loud that wiki even uses the lore from the FFG card game and presents it as if it was part of the lore written by lovecraft.
anyone who wants to learn about the stories and characters created by lovecraft should stay away from that wiki.
@@literarywhoi know that lovecraft was open to let other artists add stuff to his universe, but instead of reading a wikipedia page, knowing how many things have been changed and added... wouldn't reading lovecraft's original 100 stories be the best way to understand his work?
If only people did that instead of bitching about which of their favorite universes is stonger then the community would be far more united and knowledgeable about lovecraft's work
@@willghezzijust read the whole lovecraft circle stories and if you wanna go on extended one. Read Ramsay and Ligotti stories. They follow lovecraft canon
This video is AWESOME!! Pleaseeee make a video of the "good guys" as well.
Hilarious video, great work. Thanks.
Yog is NOT stronger than Azathoth and reality WAS born through Azathoth's dreams.
First your claim that Yog-Sothoth is called omnipotent while Azathoth never is, isn't true, Azathoth has been stated to be boundless which is the same thing as omnipotence.
Next your claim that Yog-Sothoth is the entire mythos combined isn't true either. Yog-Sothoth is the entire multiverse but that doesnt include the gods. the god's are in Yog-Sothoth because Yog-Sothoth is the universe and they are in the universe.
If you look at HP's genealogy family tree, Azathoth is the oldest god, he created the nameless mist which in turn created Yog-Sothoth. Saying Azathoth, the nameless mist or Nyarlathotep are a part of Yog-Sothoth makes no sense considering they were all around well before Yog-Sothoth even existed.
Next is the claim that nowhere is it stated Azathoth dreams reality. In Weird Tales Hydra, by Henry Kuttner its stated:
"It was very near the Center, the Center of Chaos, where dwells Azathoth, the Lord of All Things. All that exists was
created by the thoughts of Azathoth, and only in the Center of Ultimate Chaos could Scott find means to live again on earth in human form"
You could argue the validity of the story since it was written 2 years after HP died but it was written by someone in the circle and thats kinda the whole point of the mythos.
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He literally mentions that hes looking at what Lovecraft wrote. He even has a whole thing when he used that family tree.
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what material he chooses to pick from is his own business. my point is, saying "its not stated anywhere" that the verse was created through azathoth's dreams just isnt true. it was shown in HP lovecraft's family tree where its shown Azathoth created the mist which went on to create Yogsothoth and since Yog IS the verse that would mean Azathoth created the verse. You can ignore the tree if you want but it WAS created by HP, so acting like people just got the idea out of nowhere is just false. and again if you're talking about the MYTHOS that would include stories by authors in HP's circle (Hydra) where its just straight up stated azathoth dreamt up reality.
@@TFF_Onida which only happened after h.p died.
@@angellara7040 He made the family tree before he died.
That is a story for another time
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I watched this because I recently decided to read all of Lovecraft’s stories and this video has given me a whole new perspective of the mythos that only makes me more excited to read them
The sum of ADD, alcohol and general fatigue is, I can't remember everything I want to say.
BUT, I will say, "God bless the geek/nerds!"
This has been the best hour.
All I knew of was Cthulhu and heard of Lovecraft 😅 but the accented lord of fast talk has enlightened me!
Did I miss something? Probably. Was it a fkn blast? Yes! I heard(and maybe learned) more sht about the creatures, realms and gods of the craftyverse in 60 min than in the last 30 yrs lol
This is one hell of an introductory video for a channel, but it was worth it.
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Also: the lullaby and careless whisper guitar background music was a great add.
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Like your accent bro..makes it interesting even more
One character I think can kill Azathoth is Saber Artoria from the fate series. Her ultimate ability is described as "the embodiment of world saving hope" and "has the light of all mankinds wishes". She is shown 1 shotting threats to existence with it so that combined with it being light based would probably do the trick as long as Azathoth is about to end existence.
I hadn't heard of any of these guys other than Cthulhu until I watched this, and I made it to the end. an hour well spent.
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the music you used when you introduced Shub [REDACTED] was perfect. also i always refer to her by the name used in Sucker For Love "Rhok'zan".
I spent this video getting a piece of popcorn out of a tooth socket i had pulled 2 weeks ago, now THAT is something that can drive a man mad instantly.
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i said deja vu, and the very next second the song started lol. Also, this is a really good video
Great Video man. Can you talk about Ubbo-Sathla?
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I was not ready for that picture of Chadthullu
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Damn im gonna watch all of this
I think I would want to see you talk about the forces of “Good” in the Lovecraftian universe.
This video is pretty amazing. Hilarious and Savage all at once.
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