The Problem With Once Human
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- Once Human has been out for a week, and the developers are yet to announce any changes to the planned reset at 6 weeks. Let's talk about why that might be an issue.
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My major concern is everything is server bound and not account bound atm.
that happens in a lot of different games too, like lost ark, ark surival evolved, lost light, etc so i dont think its a big problem tho
@@MiraiT3 Its 100% going to become a problem in the long run if its not changed. Lost ark you dont need to change server cause its still region tied, so you can still play with the other servers. Ark it didn't matter cause there was little to no cosmetic tie in or battle passes. Besides all the cosmetics came in when you spawned.
i see,server bound,,so if you play pve 001--and thats mean every season you need to play in the same server,,or its from 0 again
@@MiraiT3 It's a huge problem, because not all servers are on the same timeline. One server can be a week in while others are just starting. The first week being completely worthless IMO with SO much stuff being time gated. When a season ends, I'd rather just start on a server that's already in week 2 and not waste my time.
Characters being server bound is not all that usual, i quite like that tbh.
Simple solution, servers A no wipes, servers B 6 week wipes. Let people to choose what scenario they want to play, as how this game got hyped it can get very fast forgot by people. They forget another big problem if you do a questline gameplay videos, on wipe you will lose your progress and there is no point on making anymore series for the game.
Everyone will just choose server A and crash the shit
@@flyinchancla3545 So how other games can do this? We live in 2024 years where we have super powerful tech.
@@flyinchancla3545WOW just adds content to the game with no issue for a long long time. I just think they tried to make People play for longer with those 6 weeks but fumbled greatly. The game is just not enjoyable long term that's all.
Problem with 0 wipe is can cause a severe game lagg (like we don't have that enough yet) with big server lagg because of all those refreshing and thicks of every single player
That's why majority of survival games have this thing that if your longer then 3 months away all your progress will be wiped, and unofficial server even does it extreme and do overall period of 3 months wipe to just keep the server smooth
Like he said in the video, if they do 3 months except 6 weeks that's where most people will be happy, servers can be run smooth with at the end little bit of lagg and players can progress and hopefully Finnish the storyline
@@flyinchancla3545 If there is incentive for playing the Server B, people will not play Server A.
Just look at PoE and it's leagues.
The issue was that there was no incentive, it's basically a wipe with very small changes.
just a small note for anyone that thinks we are getting a whole new map in 6 weeks, we arent, its mainly the same map with changes and maybe a new area.
dw we arent that delusional i hope
@@t9mothy649 Scroll through the comments, there is a lot of people who think we're getting a new map every season lol
@@diaboliquedia4300 do they not see how big the base game map alr is 😭😭😭
Yea no, they have been working on the north part of the map. It has buildings and roads now so thats something.
@@xClyptox New zones are a different thing, and i fully expect new ones to come over time given that we only have about a quarter if not less now. But people are expecting a NEW NEW map. Which is kinda crazy.
I play once human on my bf’s pc. When he told me how the servers and stuff was gonna get resettled I just said “whatever. It’s not my pc or my account, when everything resets I will not play. The thought of losing any type of progress and the items I’ve found and only keep them in a separate world where you can’t even take it out…. It’s really frustrating. I don’t want to deal with what I went through, and rebuild my home every time….
Actually you will keep your game progress, though you will have to redo quests from the beginning. However b4 you start you are offered either a fast-track path where you just basically show up at the quest-giver and are given your loot. Or, you can redo the full quests again. You can also make a blueprint of your entire base/ home before leaving and all you will need is to gather the mats to remake it. You can take your electric rock drill, and chainsaw with you into the new server if of course you have made them. So gathering will be extremely easy. Going to be finding out for sure in the next few days as our cycle ended today. I can also stick around for an extra 26 days if I want. I doubt that will happen as most of my in-game friends seem to be pretty eager to restart and we all will get to do things better and faster this time around. I am amazed at all the goofs i made because I wasn't aware of how things would later turn out. Imagine being a kid again knowing what you know now!
You dont lose everything you lose youre lv perk skills and most materials but weapons drills chainsaws for wood gathering and tamed pets you keep.
It depends if i cant put a desent blueprint house down and continue putting tamed pets in fast its fine otherwize its just to annoing but il have to see how that actualy works,do I get to put down my advanced stove workbech or does the blueprint reset it to there first basic forms?
I left Destiny because of sunsetting.
I despise that mechanic.
Sunsetting was reversed now btw.
The final shape is probably their best work too.
@@GeneralGladerious You don't get credit for fixing an issue you are responsible for in the first place... The main problem with bungo that they are in a never-ending cycle of: players give them money->they release mediocre or outright shitty content->players get angry->bungie management starts panicking because sales/projected sales plummet and have an "oh shit, we have to provide something of value for the money players gave us otherwise they won't anymore" moment->release some decent/good content; then the whole cycle starts over (just from d2's lifecycle: launch->forsaken->shadowkeep->beyond light->the witch queen->lightfall->the final shape).
P.s.: they only "un-sunset" the weapons, not the locations, so a significant portion of the first 2 years of D2 is still gone.
I actually liked that they sunset certain weapons. I don't like that they got rid of content such as raids, campaigns, strikes and stuff like that.
Sure but the content is still gone 😅@@GeneralGladerious
@@punchykarma6685 So you are in the "sunsetting was necessary, because recluse and montaintop was op" camp? :)
The problem is that sunsetting didn't solve any of it, but made it even worse, because bungie took the stance "why fix broken shit when it will be gone by the next season", the only problem was that the broken shit didn't usually go away (or they added new, even more broken shit). Lord of Wolves was a plague in crucible, then fighting lion, hardlight, cloudstrike, chaperone, shayura's, immortal, the latest iteration of the summoner.
My issue with the 6 week reset, and this is after reading all the anticipated changes etc. For me, there is so much content that I'd like to continue to explore and continue building on my character, NOT relevel again. I'm not one of those players that at week two are saying "I'm Bored", I want to do all the quest, see all the areas, find all the stuff. MAYBE 6 months or a separate server for non-season, similar to the PvP servers they have. I agree, as bad as I want to continue to play, it's hard to keep going OR spend money know it will end.
Because its more like rust than the MMO you all want it to be. In rust everything gets wiped weekly you dont play to aquire a bunch of stuff to just keep and maybe use one day. You acquire what you need and you use it all blowing up others and whatnot. What you get from one wipe is more knowledge on how to be ahead of the curve better on the next wipe. It is also very MMO like… but.. my friends have already basically completed all the memetics and have BIS in nearly every slot it doesn’t take that long in hours. Just learn what builds are good join a warband and pvp at the oil fields and events i thinks thats more the point than running around exploring a map as if we wont be playing on the same map each time. The weapons and armor have cool mods and abilities that you can make work together like a proper MMO build. You should be learning which build fits your play style and get blueprint to carry to next wipe to get it all back again faster than others.
@@chillbill7705 But Rust is a game that focus clearly on pvp. It does not have story, quests etc. Once Human presents itself as a story focused action mmo. The side quests are not only "Kill 5 zombies for no reason besides xp and loot". They tell stories (we can discuss about the quality of that but thats another topic). And then theres the little riddles and secrets in the world that i can discover only one time. In the coming seasons I know where they are and what they are so it becomes repetitive busy work. Thats not a good idea from a game design perspective.
@@chillbill7705 not all who play is pvp kids
@@michael-j9f4f exactly my point you guys shouldnt be playing the game is not for you and you wont like it. Its not a pve game its a pvp game with pve in it.
@@Der_Nerdi yes it us because its all very easy and fast rust has pve too you go and do the areas for better loot. You guys think lots of people care abouy their secret chest progress and all that but un reality you are one of the few gamers who cares that much about silly stuff like that. The core gameplay loop of once human is going to be the gaint war band wars just like new world… new world was good but needed resets because people get too far and it just becomes a nightmare for new players to get caught up. This game solves new worlds issues. There will be wipes all the time so ppl need to build back up and try new builds and what not giving newer people a chance to be in the same forting as the vets. I think the game isnt meant for you guys like 100% honestly i mean that. Its not a competitionist game as there isnt that mych to the game ppl get to the progress cap in like 1 day each week.
New content, new story and new map every six weeks is gonna leave a lot of people only half finishing it every season, only to be reset again and half finishing it again. Idk how they thought this was a good idea.
90% of everything transfers. There is not such thing as "only blueprints and deviations". These is almost everything you need to top your character almost instantly.
You also keep all quest progression.
You are all clueless and you will realize it when it's implemented.
Including Cohh obviously
Gonna leave a lot of their developers burned out left with no ideas. New content every 6 weeks? That's insanity.
@@iluvatarchem THIS. Pretty much everyone is telling me they should just add levels so they dont loose anything but no one gets that you keep everything. The gear you loose you would loose anyway since you recraft a new tier of gear every 10 levels. It will take you about 5 minutes to have your full set back after finishing the tutorial. Only thing thats different the number on it says T1 instead of T5/6/7/8 eventually. And no one gets it if i try to explain it to them. I personally think this system is way better for casuals then the normal mmo route where new content gets added and the casual doesnt have time to do any of the old stuff anyway because his time is limited and the new stuff is more important.
I hate the six weeks wipes, Give us Private servers that we can control ourselves!
Half finished? The whole maps open in phase 2 😂
People are snowflakes
6 weeks point blank not long enough. Easily could double it and it would still be a tight timeline for the majority of people.
Also PoE had a system were yes it resets but your character transfers to a permanent server when it gets reset and you can just continue it from there
was mentioned on once human stream the reason why the character doesn't have voice lines is due to lack of funds.
Hoping the seeming success changes that
"Lack of funds" realy? Bum from the street for burger and 5 bucks can be a voice actor. It the last thing where you need to spend money. Afcourse a good voice actor costs money, but just find someone who reeds the lines and its done.
@@Tominis1234 its always easy to talk xD
That excuse doesnt fly. Use AI for voice. No one cares if your game uses AI to voice characters.
@uberkull9326 AI still suck at voice generation and will take less time and be higher in quality to do it manually with people rather then fix the voice plus for the amount of voices they'll need they will either have to play for the licenses for the voices or create there own again time by and labor at that point it doesn't even make sense cuz it would be cheaper and faster to just pay the voice actors
I think their seasonal content should be handled in a similar way to No Man's Sky's expeditions. Always start from 0 on a separate save, claim the rewards on your main permanent save.
Yeah they have a good system for seasons
Agree 1000%. I love this system.
Expeditions don't work like that now, in nms you can transfer items into Expedition from main save so you don't start with nothing and your able to take those items loot from Expedition an transfer back into main save so Expeditions are nothing like they used to be originally or how you've described them they were originally so I understand why you think that but they changed not to long ago with update
The best way in can see it is either like NMS (amazing idea btw) or like Diablo where you get a new save ever season where you basically speed run the game. Similar to NMS
I like that idea.
Reset every 6 weeks gonna give game fatigue to a lot of people
That's why I switched to SP Tarkov. I can't play all the time, I loose every 3rd week due to work and am slowly progressing along, like level 35. Real Tarkov has had 2 wipes in that time. Having a 6 week reset just stops me from downloading Once Human
They can clean map really simple! You have blueprint of your base and if you dont connect in to game for example 5 days the base desapier and clean location! after you log in you can place back your base... its simple and it would fix problems devs have with bases in game...
I think 5 days is a bit short, but yeah, I like this idea. They already have the system in place to be able to move your whole base.
whats crazy is that in the beta you would have to keep supplying your terminal with the materials you used to build it, or your entire base would decompose over time
@@Clonedcc i always hated the base decay mechanic in games like Rust, Conan, Ark, etc... I do believe that they need some kind of inactivity clean-up process, but I hate base decay that requires farming to abate a la Rust
They can take the approach rust does, wipe days tc decaying logic etc etc
Only half the time you can't place your base back down like FO76 lol. So no to that. HARD no.
Yeah they defo just need to add and not delete. Not everyone is a streamer with all the time in the world to play the whole game in 6 weeks.
Every non streamer out there actually can play the whole game for 6 weeks. And not every streamer is also can play the whole game for 6 weeks, some if them even quit and uninstalling the game bc they disagree about season reset. So, the world is big kid. This is about you have the time to play the game or not.
The fact that there's still untranslated item descriptions that have been that way in all CBTs into release is kinda funny, how do you miss that.
Yeah you could have an internet google translate them at the very least.
Those items aren’t supposed to be translated
@@Alchemist_X Pretty sure they are. I got a weapon with description in english but the stat bonuses and passive effects in chinese, while other weapons are fully english. Some weapons do have a tag in chinese as well instead of English
@@Alchemist_Xthere are conversations still in Chinese it's hilarious
You can translate them with V
Six weeks new map i highly doubt were getting another map..If they lack funding to even do voice lines for missions,npcs,and your playable character..And such,plus there was no mention of a new map coming with the next season.
the base map is HUGE as is . they are not adding a MAP they are UNLOCKING an AREA of the existing map.
We aren't getting a new map. We are being dropped into a different part of the Island. The season shows that this season is only the south east region of the Island and you can see the Island is much bigger then just the 5 zones we have now.
It would actually be easy - the current map has a lot of repeated POI designs (Rosetta bases, farms, houses, etc). I bet a new map will end up being different geography on the map in terms of biomes or things, but the POI will be the same for the most part
@@benalloucheayman9738 maps not huge and its bare bone after level 40 so open up more map means nothing if bare bone like it is now
I’ve been playing Poe since the closed beta in 2012 and I’ve never heard the seasonal content being the biggest issue with the game. The biggest issues are trade, TFT, GGG sometimes lying to our faces, and the insanely high cost of mtx.
Yeah, seasonal resets have been a thing since Diablo 2 and were simply called ladder reset back then.
ARPGs work entirely different compared to something like Once Human and for the majority of players a reset with changes and new content additions helps keeping things fresh. It's also very important for the economy of APRGs.
Not to forget if players really want they can just keep playing their characters in standart league. They don't get deleted.
Also there is a huge difference between a reset every 3-4 months or every 6 weeks. I just can't see a 6 week reset having enough quaility content, especially if the stuff in the game rn already is really lacking in many areas.
I am sure devs will change it around. But it seems like the damage is already taking a toll.
@ktpp123 this 100% for me and my friend once the reset hits we're done they won't get us back if they change it later.
@ktpp123 Agree, they have to consider the classic players and not the hardcore players only. Iam sure hardcore players will enjoy the reset but iam sure the majority will not like this. Just my 2 cent.
All the blood sweat and tears of hard grinding to re-login butt naked on the side walk. Yeah I will never play this game again if they do this shit
what are you all talking about ?? Its gonna be a lvl 1 character but as far as they said you keep your perks that you chose (only unlock them with your lvl ups or something i guess ?) you keep your mods, your weapon blueprints and you can give yourself stuff from last season to carry it over to the next season as well, no need to refind recipes etc. either, its basicly just leveling up again with more broken weapons .. it takes like 2 days to get your base back to the standard that you had with all the tools you can give yourself from the last season if you are just mildly organized. The only real argument that i would accept against a reset is that you have to refarm deviants which is the only painfull thing about the reset. Otherwise its just free blueprints when you farm mystery crates again. The reset itself is pretty neat just cause you can race for the good spots and people cant just plant down their houses and sitt there for all eternity. People act as if their whole gameprogress gets wiped.
@@grimnir2142Having to rebuild your entire base and refarm the early sections sucks.
They are already actively fixing the main concerns FAST, the game feels great, and is going in the right direction
i had to shange serv a few times so i fall behind am on v5 end and the game is like it was at start? but the one that start first week have already played one week on the new serv don´t bother me so in few days i have last week after that you move to another serv and move the stuff you have you keep most of the things every thing ells is easy to get and lvl and a full clear of the map 90% takes u max 3 days ? but they do have thigns they need to fix in this version am playing thye need to be more clear when you hover oevr silo ore some other hting what drops their i head and mask don´t realy give you the full picture and no bot you tuber the 30 i looked at mention wheir ther mods drop
weeks in 3 still cant get the house i had in Novice..
A month later its still buggy as fuck and severs lag is at its worse... fuck off with Netease dick sucking please.
I'm a filthy casual like 25 hr a week gamer and I don't just play 1 game. Six weeks means I have no reason to try the game because when I actually get to progression it will be resetting again :/
@@hp5310That's cap, it took me 40 hours and I was speedrunning like crazy, no way you do it in a day (all main and side quests, location explorations and instanced content on normal mode). Did you just spam Silos and Monoliths?
@@hp5310 You did not max shit in one day, sorry. Just be honest and say you are having a great time and don't let the naysayers get you down.
@@hp5310only because you are jobless doesn't mean all player base is the same. And who plays only one game nowdays? This game requires a lot of dedication and loyalty. No one is doing that
@@hp5310 have u told ur mummy ?
@@hp5310no way I've sank 40 hours and just barely lvl 40, I've been trying to progress my house as well, and only half done..
I work on the road, so I can only play weekends. It gives me 12 days a season I can play, assuming nothing happens in real life
@afortsnight9154 no offense but not every game has to be tailored to your lifestyle and availability. There are plenty of other games that are amazing for you. I think it's unfair to negatively review a game because of your own personal schedule and not because genuine faults of the game.
But these are all just opinions. I do hope you have found games you can fully enjoy with your limited time though cause we're all gamers 🥰
@@skylerfreeman1173 sorry if it sounded like a complaint, I'm still playing the game, just not able to complete it. I've played rust before, so I know how it works. It keeps the game fresh, and gives me something to do
@@skylerfreeman1173 Say it louder for the people in the back. So many gamers confuse _their_ lifestyle and habits not matching with the game as an issue with the game.
@@Trepanation21 its more like a time trial, then an issue
@@Trepanation21 I think there needs to be a happy middle ground. I see lots of comments on BOTH extremes lol either "omg i have so many responsibilities and no time, i cant play this!" or "wow game has so little content and is too easy".
Im in the middle where I work 30hour weeks and take care of my 2year old baby bro (just us) so i'm able to comfortably finish things while always having something 'more' to do should I want it. I just think extremes are kinda bad for either case. Gamers shouldnt be playing games for 10+ hours a day and they also shouldnt be expected to be able to play daily to keep up.
i totally agree. i'm 12 hours in and still in the first area. i'm going to need a lot more time.
25 Hours in and in the fourth area. What the hell are you doing.
If you're too slow to catch up, don't blame the rest.
Buddy of mine started playing Thursday evening and is now sitting at 15 hours level 23, third area.
Neither of us rushes the game and has a well designed base...
To get there quick get the rift acchors unlocked do the main missions you’ll get there quick
That's definitely a you problem
Constant Pvp and PVE events, treasure hunting, crafing everyithing for a comfortable game. All this takes time, everyone has their own pace. And this game does not demonstrate itself as something where you have to hurry. Otherwise, we would immediately loot weapons, ammo, food, clothes from the boxes, and not open the locations. As is done in battle royal or extraction fps.
Everyone runs at their own pace. Take your time.
Anyone who defends the 6-week wipes and bragging about how they're basically at the endgame have all the time in their world and doesn't care about either real-world social interactions or even work.
How the hell do they make new content after six weeks. Let alone a new map/story. This has to be impossible to achieve.
Well I doubt it will be "new" it's just gonna be more rift anchors in high level zones. I highly doubt they will have some big revamp every 6 weeks when they keep saying they are broke
depends what they have already made for their rotation.
they mentioned that the 6 weeks season is because this scenario was planned like that, in the future they will add diferent season duration
I really do think there is LORE behind it all and that we will be finding out more about what's going at the end of this season. Deviants can do hella various things. Time dialation can easily be one.
Well too bad, already lost interest.
My guess is it will be a loop - when you start the game, your character has no memory and T-Man is like "hi again!". At the end of six weeks, the "twist" will be that it is implied you've done all those countless times before and they start another loop
the biggest issue is matchmaking. It seems like matchmaking is limited to the server, it should matchmake between all servers
Ah yes matchmaking... the feature maybe 2 players per server use as most dont know it exists...
Problem with that is you have completely different characters per server. They sort of act as their own ecosystem. Now match making should be for every world in a server but I think it is.
@@ShadowsTecHnologie bro thiiisss
One of the updates said that there would be permanent scenarios added later, and the content is easy enough to run through in a week even with base building. Im already playing the waiting game for the next phases since ive cleared all the current content
the problem stated in the vid is that not everyone can do that, i played launch with 7 friends 4 of them are behind (still below lvl 20) because they're IT specialists and have only a small amount of hours to complete the content because of their job, while the remaining 3 are lvls 40+, and i can confidently say that that is most of the player base of this game, working gen z and millennial people.
Majority of players are casuals that love the feeling of completionism and constant progression all (map progression and mats) to be taken away after just 6 weeks, the game is catering to a wide audience and that's why i think it has this lingering identity issue on what they want the game to be, its all good even commendable that they're trying out new things, but they need to have a solid vision on what they want the game to be, and if that vision (the seasonal wipe) is impeding on the games natural growth then they should strongly consider not pushing through with it or making a better system to mitigate what the wipes will do.
permanent scenarios will be too late if they add that after the "wipe" imo
@@arcthepaladin2694 issue is we havent got the info on how the permanent scenarios will work yet people are still flipping out. The game hasnt even been out for 2 weeks yet, give it time and see what they do with the game.
@@ormagoden22 yeah me personally i dont mind the wipes but i do get why other people can get demoralized by it, specially having to know the actual people that really want to love the game but are really detered by the wipes, we shall see what those permanent servers can do for the game, hope it aint too late tbh
this is where i'm at, waiting for week 4 to do giant, and nobody is even attempting LEA atm which sucks.
I personally have like 80 hours in, and I wont be doing that again next season. Ill enjoy one season and go find another game. I like the game, but I dont like the way the seasonal decision. Im sure if they didn't have wipes, and I kept all my progress, and all my resources and just added new resources and content, with new bosses and stuff i'd end up with thousands of hours in a few years like other games i've played, but without change this will just be a temporary game, like so many before it. I've watched so many games fall too bad progression systems.
This is the problem with gaming nowadays. Gamers immediately assume things they don't like or understand are bad, by default. This leads to Devs taking fewer and fewer risks. Once Human is trying to do something different. We literally do not know how these "wipes" are going to actually play out until we actually experience them for the first time. Its understandable to be leary about new and different things like this, but until we experience it we really don't know how "bad" it will actually be. The devs have stated they heard us and are talking about the situation but they also want to at least see how it plays out with the first "reset" at the end of this season. The least we can do is actually experience it so we can form opinions on the Actual thing instead of the hypothetical scenario we have in our heads.
Just what I was gonna say, so thanx for this.
I feel like it's still important for the devs to properly communicate to us what exactly will be wiped, before it happens. If we knew right from the start how it exactly looks like, it would have prevented some of the outrage. But other than that I do agree with you that innovation just doesn't seem to be something people accept, even if they blame current (big) devs for being stale/safe
You're delusional if you think ANY game company can continuously release brand new content every 6wks. And if they do, it's going to be nothing but all fluff, no filler content tbw. No one is afraid of change. They've made it perfectly clear how their system is "supposed" to work. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand it's a terrible idea, it isn't going to work, and will 100% cost them a GIANT portion of their player base. But "sure", keep things as is. And they can watch as their game crashes and burns out before a year goes by.
@@reisenfer1but they have properly communicated lol. There’s literally an entire page on the seasons menu that explains what you keep, what you don’t, and etc
No one wants to lose their hard earned stuff, due to an arbitrary "reset". Every 6 weeks they are gonna pump out new content?
No. They aren't.
They setting sail for fail, on purpose I believe. But thats just my own tinfoil hat theory.
But no one that works, has kids, college, military service, wants to lose all their progress in 6 weeks, for literally NO reason other than "trying something new". How many games that do a reset, aren't failing/dying/dead?
Besides POE and Tarkov, which both have their own issues, and aren't really that secure with it's player base.
Are you a dev for the game? It seems like it.
Please do not drop money on this game till we see what the 6 week reset brings.
I bet they have content already made just waiting to be released... I don't think they would be dumb enough not to give themselves a headstart and plan ahead.
@@feddora5776has the last few-5 years of game development taught you nothing? Even the biggest most competent companies are dropping money robbing, buggy or flat out zero content games.
In an ideal world you are right my friend. However you are giving them to much faith, for this point in time at least. Most of us need more assurances
personally, my goal is just to get as much blueprints as i can on the first season and its just working out just fine
but for the future seasons? i dont think its going to work out for me
TFD already has my money either way lmao
please learn about all the aspects of the game and all the details surrounding the reset and Eternaland before informing people on their financials. Not even gonna get into the details here. you can look it up then find out that youre wrong that way.
I personally like the idea of resetting, especially soft resetting like they are doing, with blueprints saved. It gets boring really quickly when you have all the best gear and one-shot everything. I prefer to restart a game I like from time to time to bring back some challenge of early levels which for me is the best part of any game - the time when you feel vulnerable. On top of this if they add more difficult servers (now there are only novice servers out there) it will be like starting a new game+, which is awesome. I would definitely like to start over with increased difficulty. Right now, it's too easy.
That being said, the 6-week limit indeed would be pretty small for some gamers. There are lots of people that play once-twice a week on weekends for several hours max. There is no way for them to achieve anything in that time. Maybe allow to stay in the season, how WOW allows to stay at previous expansion?
Maybe possibly a style the way the Division has done? Not sure if The Division's take on their progression was taken with bad criticism or not - but they also would have a season where everything on the map that you've cleared was invdaded by a certain faction and it was the players job to go back to those old POI's and re-clear but obviously the second time around would be tougher. ?? Different enemies - different types of elites? IDK ; very interesting indeed to see how Once Human handles it
You are speaking for me man! I just started playing it a week or so ago, my buddy and I are LOVING it! despite bugs, lag, etc. However we found out about this reset thing after we were about 20+ hrs in, and yes I am deeply concerned - in fact if I had known about it beforehand I wouldn't have started (and I would have been wrong actually - because before it gets wiped I am having a lot of fun - also it's free, win win!) However the likelihood of me or my buddy staying past the reset is remote at best. I don't want my many, many hours of progress reset, period. I put a comment on this subject into a steam discussion, and got a fairly toxic and negative response to my concerns. It's nice to know that there ARE others out there talking to the dev's about this - because I really do like the game, and I would like to keep playing it past the 5 weeks that will have elapsed by the time the reset happens. Thanks for this video! Let's hope and pray the devs see wisdom!
I feel like these seasons should be account bound instead of server bound, once the player reaches the end of the season, a portal or something should open and transfer them to the new season map keeping their progression....
Like a rogue like rebirth mechanic? that sounds good
The only problem with that is in execution you will have a huge pool of players at the bottom (season 1) and maybe 1% at the latest season (season 10).
@@Oblinski I know but, I just don't see an optimal solution to please everyone, compromises has to be made, as is impossible to please everyone.
@@Oblinski They just need to add new content, new maps and build up the world. And keep player power progression up. Experiment with stuff on an experimental server, and let the base game follow a normal game routine, then add stuff from the experimental server in when it seems good, and wont negatively impact the base game.
i didnt realize i am going to be reset soon.
i made an epic base and have grinded with my friends for some awesome setups...
I play since release and I have 82h already and I also work.
Let me tell you, if you explore every settlement and every point of interest you really dont have time. I am lv 41 and didnt even finish Chalk Peak yet I have 2 settlements left and a monolith.
All my time was put in exploring the map, do side quests, main quests and visit every point of interest. So my base is still basic since I dont have time for that, also didnt have time for other activities like : fishing, farming, events, search for deviants and many other things. So yeah ppl who said already finished the content are either speedrunning and dont give a fk about visiting every point of interest on the map and only rush Monoliths OR they dont work/go to school or have any activity beside gaming and play nonstop. 😂
people who work have money$$$.. guess they don't want it 🤷
70+ hours and you work lmao.
Part time then I bet
I honestly don't believe the people that said they completed it all. Unless they are in a community of 5 or 6 people working together like it IS a job. And if so, that isn't' what any wants either really.... not another job ...
My girl and i enjoyed the beta, were hyped for full release. Full release came out and news about wipe happened :(. Hype disappeared fast and we might the switch back to NMS!
Sever resets are also ment to wipe the map of abandoned player bases that can cause sever issues like lag or make it hard for new active players from placing down their own bases, especially within the starter region of the map necessary for progression. It also gives an opportunity to fix mistakes made on your first character playthrough by giving you a fresh start after you had some experience playing the previous season. I'm honestly ok with the reset as long as blueprints and cosmetics are not touched and can carry over to next season. I do however empathize with people who have time limitations due to work or other things that come up in life that may hinder one's time in game. I would propose maybe increasing the time until a server wipe by like 6 months between each wipe which also gives devs time to patch their game and add new content between bi annual seasons. I would also introduce something like a degradation system for bases to be maintained with resources like tool cupboards in a game called Rust, that should help with abandoned base clutter issues.
Except there is no way to ruin your character, since the only thing are RNG any way, so you could half the best specilizations and lose them anyway, instead of working to get the BiS specilizations you like for your character and keeping them. The base already have an inactivity timer from what i've been told. Most people dont wants wipes to happen in 6 weeks cause they are losing 6 weeks of work, imagine 6 months. The moment it comes the player base would drop 80%. Games that have wipes like rust are fine, cause you can knock everything out in a week, and have PvP that cause people to quit anyway once they lose all their progression. But most people wont play a game that wipes unless they start within a few days of wipe. And there is no reason for wipes in this game, cause even PvP on PvP servers is optional.
bro all they have to do for abondened player bases is put it on a timer like the one ark has and character mistakes its not really an issue since theres so many customization options and i saw a feature where you can reset your memeatics in the section there in unless your talking about specializations but all people have to do is read the specilization before they equip it.
Decay timers are a thing, for me resets for MMOs like ruins the need to invest time and energy into. Why make a badass base when it's gonna be gone in 6 weeks. We've all been there, you jump in a server as a noob and see mega bases and that's inspiring to me. Claim your turf and make a lasting imprint on that server. Resets ruin that and all this creating equal playing fields sounds a lot like a little league where everyone gets a trophy just for competing.
Why not just reset plots then? Why reset the entire game? Stop making stupid excuses on behalf of the devs
Base degradation is cancer. This isn't like Rust. We have one personal base with strict guidelines and limitations that can be moved. Just have it moved off-map and let inactive players plop it back down when they come back to the game. Degradation is DESTRUCTIVE and kills all enjoyment for casual players not logging in to stock a freaking cupboard.
If I had to propose something that would potentially solve the problems of seasonal wipes, it would be separating the seasonal playstyle from the new added non-seasonal one. It could be permanent player setting, or a server sub-type. I look at Diablo 2 competitive seasons for that
As someone who hates seasons in games, i actually like what they are doing here, The important content carrying over, the world slowy changing each season, different events, a personal constant instance to build in, blueprint building saves so even tho the world resets it doesn't feel like im wasting my time making a detailed base. All great things, in games like Diablo 4 i don't like seasons because it legit feels like starting over, Where with Once Human, it feels more like a Rogue like, every run you get a bit better. also they were probab;ly worrking on multiple seasons at once during development.
This is pretty much what I said about this game from the start. I always see BS from users about how far they get in a short time. And I call them out as speed runners and power levelers. Because I take my time to enjoy the story and explore and build and do lots of side content.
I quit Destiny 2 because I paid for it on bnet. Suddenly they transfer it to Steam which prevents communication that you paid for and used to work. Unless you pay extra to make a purchase on Steam for a min of $5. Then everything I paid for which I never got the chance to even get half way was removed from the game. I paid for four expansions past Forsaken. And didn't even get to complete Osiris.
I honestly think they improved how the game starts. But if they were going to do that, then they should have revamped D1 for D2, and integrated it so the game would continue into D2. I never played D1, but D2 was supposed to be the expansion for D1 anyway about that Kabal faction. Which is a pretty epic campaign from starr to finish. Yet I never got to play Forsaken which is the main reason I even bought D2 after Forsaken released.
For Once Human, the idea of the wipes just get worse with no guarantee my game won't get interrupted. I think the fundamental idea of clearing unused abandoned junk built by users is extremely important to clean up the maps. But not affect my playthrough that I take my time on at my leisure. Parents and military don't matter. What about performers? If I can't play for a week or two or a month or two, then I will need to be able to continue where I left off. I don't mind if only my territory gets removed if I'm gone awhile. But the game and my character and everything should be exactly as is aside from basic updates. With the only difference that I just need to place my territory elsewhere with all my stuff still intact as is.
This is incorrect about Path of Exile at all. PoE isn't an mmo. It's a single player arog with co-op features. In fact, the only reason there's no online/offline like Diablo 2 is that it functions like Diablo 3. So it's online no matter what. But the offline is effectively just solo mode.
And no seasonal wipe is not one of the most contested because it is not contested because it doesn't do any seasonal wipes. The only thing seasonal is the alternative challenge mode. Your main standard game is the same as any other single-player game. You can play anytime. I still have the same character from years ago.
If you start a character in the alternate seasonal mode, it will just revert to being a standard mode character at the end of the season. There's no wipe at all You just continue playing the character. And most users who enjoy the seasonal mode just start a new character for each season. But nothing gets wiped.
It’s not bad the game isn’t grindy, the only thing that’s grindy are blueprints and those stay. This will prevent players basically taking over the server
I had to stop because of the wipe after 6 weeks. I work full-time and 3 kids. Only get to play 2 hours a week.
yip we screwed i quit waist potential 😮💨
The 6 week thing is so clearly based on Rust's pvp servers. PoE players cant wait for the new seasons, which are 3-4 months, not 6 weeks.. And no, this game isnt a brand new map each season. When they said new, they meant fresh.
reason why this game even has 90% of population it has are mmorpg players imagine world of warcraft resets your character to lvl 1 every 6 weeks ah yes but u keep your crafting recepies but u have to lvl all way throw again doing same things on same map ... 1 season and game dies
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I was onboard with the new seasons until i found out it was 'new content/new map' which i think is rediculous, I already have a problem with the map being overly big which feels more like padding but now you put a timeframe against it makes that feeling even worse, if they released a smaller map and then added to it every 6 weeks i think that would be fantastic.
No new content, No new map, You get 20k points to transfer things into new season from eternaland. To give you an idea a deviant costs 800 points, I put a weapon in it cost 17.2k points so best things to take are some deviants, chainsaw and drill. There is literally NOTHING to do in eternaland! You literally get dropped into the map as you did the first time as lvl1 and have to do EVERYTHING again.
Yeah you get to keep your blueprints and stuff so you can make your armour and weapons again at lvl1
@@slayerking69it'll still take a long while to gather the materials for the weapon blueprints.
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big problem for me as someone who hasnt gotten too deep into the game due to time: there are so many fricken different materials/currencies and things to keep track of and I have little idea of what half of it is, let alone what I keep or lose for wipes
I actually like the sound of their plan. I'm not typically an mmo player and in fact love rogue lites and roguelikes. It sounds like most stuff gets transferred anyway. I don't think Once Human even qualifies for rogue anything. Sounds good to me but will have to see how it feels.
Most stuff dont get transferred. They are circling around. Premium currencies, rare currencies, cosmetics and blueprints are the only things. Everything else you can imagine resets currently
@@rkbeddsjgso most stuff
@@rkbeddsjg ?? Why are you spreading misinformation
@@rkbeddsjg There is exactly the list of things that will be transfered automatically and the list of items you can take with you to the next season. So you are wrong here. You even can take the weapon and armor with you. How do you plan to receive a blueprints in the next season if there is no wipe for Mystic Creates? And if you don''t get blueprints in the next season from Mystic creates how do you plan to upgrade blueprints?
A very simple problem: people REALLY hate losing their stuff.
A very simple solution to this problem is just a Path of Exile or Diablo 3 Season system: your characters go to Legacy server after 6 weeks, but you have the option to start a new Seasonal character with fresh start and new economy, and possibly with some buffs / unique items / new content. This way people are not losing anything and the game is still fresh for newcomers. And just improve on the PoE/D3 formula with replacing old content with new. That would be a win-win situation.
In TTRPG (like D&D or Pathfinder) the players are not really offended by a big boss killing some innocents, they are really offended by their stuff being stolen. And announcing "we'll take all your stuff away" is just a way to piss off everyone.
re-grinding again to upgrade my shit . is a no deal for me for every 6 weeks? nah im good
you keep resources in your spacetime backpack at the end of a season
you also permanently keep blueprints to craft your op weapons again
They could probably make it so that old stuffs decay more and more each new season so that ppl would use the new stuff
I work overtime and can only play weekend nights mostly, I have a family and I completed the battlepass in 2 weekends. The battlepass isn't an issue. You can join a new server with plenty of time left. I'm at level 46 and damn near completed every little "town" with a mythical chest. It just hit week 3 on the server I'm on and now am waiting already for the next week to start because I'm that caught up. Now I have a week to go after leveling up some of my favorite blueprints that will carry over to the next seasons content. By next week I'll still have 2 more weeks left. If you are a full time gamer and it's your job, you too shouldn't have an issue with getting through this content. Playing 4 to 8 hours a day is a lot of time, so I'm unsure on how you can't get through everything on the map. Unless you are sneaking through every little area. The game isn't full of enough things to keep you in a area longer then you need to loot the 3 chests, 1 mythic and 2 gear or weapon chests, kill 10-20 enemies and 1 elite enemy(fast and easy). I've also been playing solo, unless of course it's a prime war activity, which just showcases how having the game just expand and open up more would hurt it more than help it. Some areas already feel dead from players not being around, let alone the map doubling in size and just adding stress to the server for little gain. Seasonal wipes make a lot more sense all around. You have no literal reason for going back to the old areas once you get through it once.
I am surprised they are aiming to release content so quick, but we won't know what it's like until it happens. I think people are getting worked up for no reason. This might be because I waited until they talked more about what's going to actually happen recently.
Finally someone who isnt salted for a problem that isnt even real its barely a reset we keep all the important stuff and ya i work too and still found time 😂
The problem isn't the game, but the players not open to something new. Nobody has even played a season yet to see what it is like. It may be great! They are obviously doing it for a good reason. It's not to ruin anyone's game. get real.
You don't need to eat a shit sandwich to know it tastes like shit. Get real.
the world would get too boring if it was static the entire time. this allows people to join at a equal pace each season
Partially true but no even learning abaut it made me feel like i dont want to open the game today and i am having fun with it but if all the uests just go away then i will not play it in season 2
Anyone saying the wipe is for getting rid of abandoned homes confuses me bc don't the bases have a decay system anyway? Won't it just break if they aren't on for a long time? If the wipe is every 6 weeks, just make the player activity monitor thing the same time instead? I'm also not a game developer though, so this might sound completely wild
I don't understand why they can't just have all content present in game at the same time.
I just started playing Once Human and found out about the 6 week wipes. And now I'm reconsidering if I really want to put the time into it.
Thanks, Cohh for your input and thoughts!
As we have yet to see a new season I think people are just being dramatic cause they like to be dramatic.
I dunno, I think 6 weeks is more than enough time. I finished the main story quest line for Phase 1 in under 12 hours. I was able to do the same within phase 2. Admittedly I am rather focused on doing it while leveling my equipment/base up, I go back and do side quests later. Heck, I honestly constantly complain about how everything is locked behind timed release walls. I admit I have way more free time to play than the average person but being forced to wait weeks to do some portion of the content is a bigger frustration for me. I love the idea of restarting without loosing my blueprints after 6 weeks. It keeps things fresh and light, also the Dev team has stated MULTIPLE times that not all seasons will be 6 weeks, some may be shorter, some may be longer, it depends on the story they wish to tell. They have also stated multiple times that the main story quest line and side quests will be shortened during following seasons.
I think that the some what ARPG like reset is good for this game. Most survival game players play new characters when they want to play more. Yes, MMOs like wow are different, well thats wow and honestly within the first hour of playing wow in a new expac you have all new gear replacing the raid gear you spent the last 18 months getting so how is it any different starting over fresh? Ohh yeah, with a totally new unexplored map, new main story quests, new side quests etc, and also rather buggy typically even as awesome as blizzards beta testing and QC is. So again not really valid arguments, beyond well if I wanted to I can go back and visit the old lands, to what end? They literally added pokemon to the game and then put them in dungeons/raids just to give people a reason to visit that content. The only real sort of comparison is that the time between content releases in wow tends to be 3 to 6 months with major expacs every 18 or so. However, this isnt the same because wows team is paid largely based on player subscription, not a free to play platform based around battle pass and/or cosmetic purchases. Even Diablo 4 with its seasonal battle pass and cosmetics still has a base price to purchase the game to play it.
I will agree that the average player may find the six week season a bit too short for them, but again not all seasons will be six weeks. Future seasons will likely have shorter quest lines and reduced number of side quests. I know I am repeating myself, I am trying to emphasize that these things have all been brought up previously and addressed previously. Eternaland was created to address this "loss" between seasons. I mean heck, think about the farm in WOW panda, the garrison in legion, etc how many hours and hours and hours did many of us put into that farm for it to just poof in usefulness next expac. It happens all the time. What goes with us into the next expac, transmogs, pets, mounts, toys. Also called blueprints, cosmetics, and decorations. Ohh and while you are at it leveling your character up and do all of that stuff, also level up your trade skills too.
MMORPG only stands for massive multiplayer online role-playing game. There is no cookie cutter requirement to fit that designation.
WoW counter points - Once human isnt an MMORPG, no trinity or forced group play is in it. Its a survival game thats F2P - they dont have sub money rolling in to pay for the server resources needed to keep that data indefinitely. Also, Classic era servers showed that a static, non progressing world is DOA so Im not sure why anyone wants to try that argument. One only needs to look towards the start of Hardcore/SoD to know people flock to FRESH/NEW servers no matter what they say - the actions show whats true.
While at first I was annoyed about a TOTAL wipe, I learned it wasnt going to be like that and I havent seen what was planned out after the season ended. Im willing to put some faith in the devs and wait. Ive gotten more enjoyment out of this game than I have with many 30-50 dollar games in my steam library and Im just going to say it - I think most complainers are strictly F2P players and/or game hoppers. They wont be supporting this game in a few weeks and wont contribute to the server costs. Take a real close look at the negative steam reviews. Lot of level 0 steam accounts with
Yeah complaints are wild if you don't like the game rather then complain an say it's bad for 20 things it's doing why not just don't play it an move on, if the gane an seasons aren't your thing that's fine others like that style if you don't like it well it's free to play it's as easy as nit installing the game to begin with as they have been 100% honest about wipes an told players it's got seasons, if you decided to install anyway an still don't like it well it's as easy as uninstalling game an playing game you do like. I just dint understand complaining about game you don't like if your unhappy find game that makes you happy an you enjoy if you don't want to lose progress well don't play the game that has seasonal resets it's like ppl are acting like they don't have choice in the games they play lol I don't complain about seafood being shit because I hate sea food guess what I don't eat it I don't like it or enjoy it what I'm not gonna do is go to ppl that do like it an complain how it smells an tastes an explain how it should be chicken lol 😂I simply don't eat the fish an eat what I know I like same with games if I like I pkay if don't I don't complaining isn't something I'd do for not liking something other ppl like it doesn't need to change for me ill gladly move on no sense in getting upset an complaining
@@TakenCypress369 Imagine writing an essay defending a shitty ass practice that many many players are speaking against. Lmfao.
"This restaurant is serving people dried turd instead of actual food, gee, why are they complaining?"
That's what you sound like.
For me one of the biggest issues with survival games is hitting a wall once all the content has been completed and all the things I want built. Ark/Conan Exiles are two that come to mind, build all the things then get bored. Once Human’s system (if they can pull it off) will remove that wall. You talk about all your work disappearing.
From what I’ve played most tasks/quests/mats are building towards getting high level blueprints for gear progression that once acquired can be carried over along with any currencies. Such as the ones used in the wish machine that can let players again keep their progress if they were saving up to buy one from there for example.
I totally agree and I am another player that if I saw I had 2 weeks to the wipe wouldn’t even bother, but if I knew that even just playing a bit and getting a feel for the game would actually lead to me being able to bank items that would count towards my progress in the next season, I would reconsider it. You could play this game for a couple of hours and already have things to carry over to the next season. I can understand the completionist angle, but I don’t think you can realistically have that in the same game that keeps things fresh enough to stop players just finishing everything and getting bored eventually. Games like Conan Exiles had much lighter seasons just adding things but the game was still too similar to keep things interesting enough.
Personally I think implementing systems to mix things up could be a real boon for survival games although 6 weeks is too short I agree, things should be account bound though for sure and the game does need work.
So i know this video is old but it just popped up in my featured and i gotta say there is A LOT of misinformation in here the seasons are NOT 6 weeks long they are 9weeks long. Additionally at the end of the 9 week "season" it doesnt wipe the server to start a new season. You just repeat everything you did before on a new server but you will be much more powerful. you can choose to up the difficulty if you want to increase loot quality and starchrom amount gain. Also he did list eveything that is character bound meaning you never lose it. However
However you can bring things with you from eternaland to your new server by spending a currency the game gives you everytime your server hits week 6. The new scenarios mark the release of new content. When you move to a new server you can choose to start it normally or the sparknote version that auto completes every quest that youve already completed and gives you the rewards for it for free.
The point of starting over is to keep farming blueprints and starchrom to upgrade your builds and become more powerful to tackle new harder scenarios when the release. Hope this clears up some things
I don’t think the problem is necessarily the reset itself, there are games like POE that “reset” multiple times a year and the players usually can’t wait for the next one. The difference is POE leagues last 3-4 months. 6 weeks is nowhere near enough time playing each iteration for the perception to change from, “I’m losing all my progress”, to “ I get get to do it all again”. I’m sure if they made the resets less frequent the play base would get used to it and eventually start enjoying it.
I dont play that game but if they want to reset every season, cant they just reset just one area ? Like the highest tier area only ?
That doesn't even make sense. How would you even do that? How would that manifest in the game? Since you don't play the game, give me a "for example" with a game you do play.
@diaboliquedia4300 That is why I was asking (with "?"). So how would I give an exemple. For how to do it ; well it could be like a power cap and localised high tier loot/drop. Each season that power reset, the loot is lost for some reset currency/materials, something similar, it doesn't sound impossible for me, you dont have to copy games like Destiny but you can be inspired by some mechanics.
I think perhaps the target is people that have played Rust or Ark. I'm not deterred at all by a wipe. Keeps it fresh; can do a different base each time to stay creative; the ability to save base designs so people who don't like building don't have to do it again. rolling dates on wipes mean your criticism about joining a season partway through are moot. What you're suggesting - keep expanding areas instead of wipes - is like Genshin Impact. might be worth a try.
I was literally thinking "I quit destiny over this" before they brought it up XD
I just quit The Division 2 over this because they made their newest season seasonal characters, it's just not something I'll tolerate
This is like my government company wiping out my laptop every month. So much trouble to install all the tools and shit all over again
One of the reasons that WoW lost so many players is the favt that they either scrap menachics ot they become obsolete when a new expansion releases.
I hate wiping systems they feel extremely lazy instead of adding new content game companies just choose to wipe you and force you to play the game all over again which just makes the game repetitive
you lose everything you worked to gain every six weeks, No thanks, There should be a mode for people that do not want to lose everything every 6 weeks, I have played the game for a few hours but I can't really force myself to play a long period because everything I would gain would be lost So I am going to uninstall it before I start to like the game and then realize I have did all that work for naught.
im a completionist as well. and ive had plenty of time to complete the map and have time for other activities. and because you carry over so much to the new season, clearing through these areas again will be even easier. that should give you time to experience what i hope is going to be good new content added.
also new players just starting are being directed to new servers that are less progressed in the season. it is very clear when you start what day the season is at currently and you can choose to start on an earlier phase.
I like the idea to remove maps and replace them with new ones waiting to be explored. New themes, mops, dungeons and fun
My take is with a 6 season reset. It allows them to reset and refresh the mystical crates in the world so you can earn more BP frags. And to keep the game fresh. You get to keep your BP upgrades so starting with a high star weapon BP or armor you’ll be able to make top tier gear at the beginning of the season. Each season you will get stronger and stronger. So it won’t really feel like starting over. You also keep your house blueprint to just replace your house. It’s not that big a deal you don’t really lose anything.
idc about that yet - i wanna see that shit play out.
what i HATE about the current state is the arbitrary dumb time gating of zones quests and memetic levels. i hit the cap after 31 hours. its DUMB AS SHIT
and i think the 6 week period might be actually appropriate time to like 100% the game considering that i 100% week one with 31 hours and have to wait 3 more days for the game to allow me to spend my stuff in memetics on tier 4+ and go do me quests without killing me with red mist when i move to the next level zone.
I agree 6 weeks is plenty long enough to get though everything, and I work a lot
This must be the ONLY game you play right now. I get being stuck on one game, I did it a little with Ghost of Tsushima when it hit PC for a few days but god damn. This game is fun but imo it ain't THAT fun.
@@123sleepygamer then uninstal it. go back to your ghost of tsushima.
Today, just a few weeks into the first session I have a friend who is on the fence finally wanting to play…he can’t get on my server…he doesn’t want to play alone so he is not going to play. I imagine lots of people are having the same problem. They need to fix this too!
PvE Needs to be No Wipes, and PvP Has the 6 Week Wipe. Simple, and Fixes all of people's issues while keeping the enjoyment for others of having the Day One PvP Experience.
Seriously, Either that or No Wipes period. Either or NEEDS to be done at the very least if they can't come up with any other gameplay loops to take it's place.
Rust feel is what they're going for with the Wipe feature.
Which is why they've done it I believe, Issue with that is Rust servers having Weekly wipes majorly plummet in players after the 4th day or so and each Week closer to the Monthly wipe it's worse and worse. (These Weekly Wipes remove everything but your Blueprints you've learned from the Tech Tree. Monthly Wipes completely Wipe everything alongside bring with it often a gameplay changing Update)
Monthly Wipe servers are horrible and fall off in players substantially roughly halfway through, so Once Human is attempting to copy said feature in the worst way.
As somebody who only picked the game up a week ago and has dipped a toe into it a bit, I’ve barely scratched the surface never mind am ready for a wipe in two weeks time.
Knowing it’s erasing soon, means I have no real aim than learning the mechanics. I think the blueprints persisting is good, but you shouldn’t lose your base or need to gather materials for its construction for example.
People who complain is mainly the once who grind and have the time to grind 12+ hours each day...
There is plenty of content to be made.
I play on pvp server, it is what you make it tbh.
Yea there is breaks between seasons. But thats nice no?
I have been a guy completing games so many time and then thinking what now..
Here you can get the break to just have fun in the game.
Thats just me at least.
I love this game, been looking for something like this for a loooong time.
Im sure there will come more and better updates aswell, but for now its amazing.
Yes a wipe is needed why would it not be? Game would die after a year without.
Thé Heck are you on about ? Thé game will die if there is wipes what are you even Trying to prove by saying thé game will die if there is no wipes are you good ?
I think what they need to do is what you suggest, to a point. Part of the reason they are resetting seems to be to control the difficulty. They don't have to keep ramping it up for the new season stuff. What they could do instead is let you keep all of your gear but reset your levels and memetics/specializations. Yes, that will make the early areas easier for players of previous seasons, but still allows new people to come in without missing out on older season content. Then add the new stuff on top of it, while still removing what appears to be the big boss of each season. So, they keep *most* of the content, and there is still the level reset, but you don't lose everything that you spent effort on.
I don't even consider playing this game with this rules.
Love the editing style and how concisely condensed Cohh's thoughts are in this format
As a primarily UA-cam-centric content consumer I appreciate having the option between the full playthrough and short form like this
I will never understand HOW they thought server wipe was ever a good idea??? Literally nobody likes to redo shit or start from the beginning after working their ass off for weeks, It is just stupid and will only make players quit your game, also a lot of players don't get to play enough to finish all the content in 6 weeks and most of players won't spend money tp progress whatsoever, it jist seems like a VERY bad move tbat may cost this game to die... Which is very sad because I love it... But I don't think I would continue playing if the server wipe happens.
Apparently the most hard farmed stuff stays! It's almost only beginning from lvl 1 again. That's it. Everything else that needs to be farmed needs to be farmed anyway
I can understand them wiping the PvP servers to give everyone a fair chance but not the PvE servers where everyone just wants to explore and chill.
I like the idea of ASKING people when it's time to go into the next chapter after 6 weeks IF THEY are ready to. Make the choice a selection, not a forced one.
That way some players can fully finish the areas they are in, then decide when to move on. This would work for new players as well joining in week 5 or 6.
I'm retired, so I have 6 weeks to play. Others have jobs and real life and can't do it all in 6 weeks.
Keeping player base is important.
This game is really good.
Don't Blow IT !
They need to make it voluntary like a prestige system. You reach end game after six weeks and now you have nothing to do except explore old content. If you choose to prestige back to level 1, you get X new ability, Y new unlocks, Z new tiered progression system. That way people can choose to do it if they want, and they can still integrate endgame progression by resetting and re-visiting older content through a voluntary restart. In Call of Duty, people were happy to give up all of their progress just for a badge, but if they were forced to do it before they were ready they would have revolted just like what we are seeing here.
theres eternaland to safe item you want to carry on to next season,
and theres NEW SERVER every 3 days,
and each server had its own "6 weeks" phase
For me it all depends what seasons consist of, if it's just a way to keep selling season passes with very little new mechanics/content then that'll be a no from me.
There is a ridiculous amount of misinformation and speculation out there.
To add to that speculation, at most, we get a new region (which was done already but not released, snow area, or redwood) those areas pervide new events and locations, the phase's will reduce to three weeks for each new region. Then, once all that is done , we will have the full map and grind until a new larger season with a new map and a story is released.
Tldr: 1st map, one 3 season. 3 sets of phases, at completion, a set amount of time to finish and explore content. New map releases with same idea.
I started out mid-season, and ifit resets i may not come back for a while. What's the point of finding a decent location, farming everything up, and building a cool looking base if everything is going to be reset in a month and a half? All that worked up just to be reset over again. Im okay with my base starting over, and i go from nothing with just the clothes, weapons, and crap in my bags, but starting on an absolute clean slate? Nah, im good.
When I heard about their seasonal resets every 6 weeks, I decided to wait 6 weeks to see how the season switch actually ends up working and if it does make peoples progression feels like it was a waste of time before picking it up.
I basically complete all the content in the first 2-3 days of the week. I simply wait for the week to end, so that i can access the next content. And i cant wait for the season reset because i wanna play afresh with all the things i have learned (and all my blueprints). Right now in my server (SEA PVE 54 )we are at week 4, with 3 days left for Week 5 (nightmare/manbus content) to arrive. All of us are bored, doing the same old PW and Silos over and over again, cant wait for Week 5 to start.
You keep all your blueprints, cosmetics, you can transfer most resources. There is a full list you can find that explains what will be transferred and how it works. They are also not changing the entire map just adding to it. So everyone can chill out. Since this game has PvP as a major part, wiping a minimum is super important to keep things fresh and allow everyone to be at the top.
Its crazy to me how many people apparently just start up a game, dive headfirst into it, and apparently cant be bothered to spend even the smallest amount of time to figure out a game or read ANYTHING only to complain afterwards. I dont walk down the street, see a lot of people eat in a restaurant, go in and sitt down, dont read the menu and then tell the waiter that im ordering whatever the guy from the table next to me had cause it smelled good, only to stand up after eating half of it and complain about how i could only eat half the food cause the other half was stuff that im allergic too, how i dont like the music thats playing in the background and how i really like that big carpet in the middle of the room and want that whole floor made out of it.
Like what ? I really dont understand that almost aggressiv urge of people to push their own little agenda onto EVERYTHING. Nothing is allowed to exist if its not in the way that >> I
Yeah, I've dropped 70 hours in and I still have a ton of content left to explore and grind away at. The only reason I have this much time in is that I'm on vacation right now. Once I'm back to work with time in the field and only having weekends to play, where I have other things to do. I'm okay with the seasonal wipes, but I can't do 6 week seasons regularly.
with a short reset timer the developers would likely have to rotate groups of servers so they all don't reset the same week. but also lock servers that are halfway or more into a season so players can't join them since they likely won't finish the content within a reasonable time frame.
As someone who works away and gets to play maybe for few hours in the week when I get back home then im able to play for a bit on a Sunday it's kinda upsetting the feeling I have that I simply don't have the time I want/need to enjoy the content to its fullest. Because this game is my vibe 100%
I guess Diablo 4 was a good example, finding all the lilith shrines and doing all the other completion stuff to unlock skill points, paragon points, etc etc.
Season in D4 are like 3 months or so, and people were pissed that they had to redo that stuff every Season.
So Blizzard changed it.
I think, what they could do. If the Seasons work like, every 6 weeks there is a new Story a new Map, new Events etc etc...
Why not just ad a new Zone? You go to a npc, talk to the npc and he teleports you to the new zone or something. Can do a little Story quest for it.
And if they areally want people to "kinda" restart at lv1 with a new Season. Once you are in that new Zone they could make it so that you basically have a naked character again. But you can always teleport back to the old map with all your stuff.
I feel like there are definitely better way to do what they want to do, without having to reset almost everything.
Completly agree with Cohh.
First, we need more time for each season, between 2-3 months should be ok for the completicionists as he said (maybe increase it to 4 after checking % completition for a few seasons); second, please expand the world with each season instead of deleting content, add new things and maybe make it evolve with lore each 3-4 seasons , altering parts from the first 1-2 previous seasons for example and rotate events (basically each year have a big event that alters the world a little); with this 2 changes game is gold and only needs some QoL, some more content (with each season) and a few improvements.
The editing was on point!
I feel that still now is unclear how to approach the season. For example a new player won't join a server already in week 4 (and if he does it's because of friends) but the game suggest a newer server, probasbile still in week 1. I even heard that you can keep palying in the old season and move to the new one once you want, but i'm not sure about this.
That create a problem with community, since in old server you won't meet new and fresh people so some server may need to merge at one point since population decline constantly.
What i will say is that i'm loving this game and we will see in 4 weeks what really happens :D I do hope they consider at least 3 month season.
Looks great, and to a point it's fun to play. However, there's so much to do & the seasons are to short to do it all (or even most of it) for a normal gamer putting in normal gaming hours. Seasons should really be twice as long, or simply have less content to pursue (love the side-quests but your average gamer wont have finished them all or collected all the law/POI in the world before seasons end).. Skill tree could be streamlined, and things like acid farming (or availability) need refining somewhat.
And imo your off-map island home should have been your actual main base; clearing world map entirely of player homes.. we were introduced to the concept of a home in a pocket dimension at the start of the game, this should've been how it was managed for players. Freeing up some epic server space & stability for the game world; dropping the need for more frequent maintenance. ESO does this, essentially, with their player homes, for example.
Just my own thoughts after playing. 100 or so hrs atm. Just got to the stage of having to choose between acid farming or finishing the game, as I came to it late. And atm I've lost a lot of motivation to carry on with it. Being more inclined to just see how the end of season/server-wipe is handled, if handled well I'll be more inclined to keep going next season.. start an acid farm as my 1st priority in game too.
My gamer buddies and myself all worried on this also. Most of us don't have much time to play these days and MAYBE in 6 weeks we can finish the base content but just to be wiped and start again.... we already looking for something else.
Its a decent game, ngl. But I'm not playing this for seasonal wipes. Never a fan of the idea of a game not respecting my time I spend on progression, grinding and farming.
Just let the players keep everything the base with everything in it , the level etc , and when the new season comes you just drop your base where u want and keep playing . This also works for people who don’t play that much as they don’t lose anything only different season . This solves the problem with territory overcrowding as well if u don’t log in anymore to spawn your base in the new season.
"and keep playing". Keep playing what exactly? You already leveled, geared, have your base that you just plop, have all the mats. What would you do exactly? Play the new quest for 2 hours and quit again? Help me understand your perspective.
@@diaboliquedia4300 Harder content? Harder enemies? New Tier levels for gear? New resources? Like other games? They dont even have to add new levels. Just keep adding new versions of weapons, and armor that buff the 7 types of builds they got, add new tiers for the gear, and higher calibration levels. Right now we are killing level 60 enemies, next area can be level 62-70 enemies, etcs. And we keep our level but just power up our build. Add a new difficulty to each boss that will scale them up to the end game, etc. They can add memetics that allow new resources to be farmed with stuff we already have.
@@kingcarl1391 Eh i got tired of arguing with people about seasons yay or nay. You won't change my mind, i won't change yours. Do what you want, the game will be what devs want it to be.
Take care.