Mork is brutally cunning - which means he hits you when you're not looking. Gork is cunningly brutal - which means he hits you HARDER when you are looking.
Bullshit, Mork's brutal cunning would mean he knows the value of hitting as hard as you can when you're not looking, and if they's not looking, then yous can hit em even harder cause theyz not gonna stop ya
The idea the Gork and Mork are just having a never ending WWE wresting match with the entire chaos realm as the ring - while the chaos gods just unable to stop it - is both hilarious to visualize and stays lore accurate. The Bad Moon follows them around and shouts about it like the announcer. This is now my head cannon.
I like this idea of Gork and Mork just constantly fighting through the warp going through the 4 chaos gods' territory and them just watching on like we watch a tornado passing, hoping they don't get too close
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I image Nurgle, siting in his garden peacefully as ge create new dieseses. Then boom, gork and mork bust through the wall, and start fighting each ither. Mork acidently kick over the pot of dieseses. Then they leave like nothing happend.
@@komiks42 While slaanesh is busy having torture sex with some random demon only for the 2 to barge in while fist fighting only to push over said bed slaanesh was using, and in stun silence watches as both of them to move on only to look around at the destroyed house, and furniture.
My favorite part about Gorkamorka is that every Destruction faction in AoS somewhat represents a different part of him. The Ironjawz are his crushing fist, the Kruleboyz his grasping hand, the Gloomspite Gitz are his cunning brain, the Bonesplitterz his wild, beating heart, the Mawtribes his hungering mouth/stomach and the Sons Of Behemat are his stomping feet.
On the topic of if Gork and Mork are the strongest Gods, I feel the easiest way to view it is that they are a physical representation of the Orks themselves. As individuals, they are little more than fodder, but if all the Orks ever worked together, nothing could really stop them. Same with Gork and Mork; individually, Gork or Mork could never stand up to someone like Khorn but if they worked together they would be unbeatable. However, that would require them to stop fighting each other and if there is one thing an Ork can't do, it's stop fighting. In short, it would mean that Gork and Mork could destroy everything if they ever realised the power of friendship.
You can say the same about the chaos gods, A lot of people think that the emperor is fighting the 4 of them in a 4 vs 1 battle but the truth is that its more of a 5 way fight of everyone vs everyone, if the gods stopped fighting and worked together they could squash the emperor with ease.
there was that one bit in an older ork codex about how Gork and Mork were bored and found a cave where the most abonimable and bloodthirsty beast was laying. And they beat the shit out of it leaving it in a pool of it's own blood, almost dead That beast was Khorne
I dislike the thing where like people say that Gork is more physically strong with melee while Mork is associated with ranged I prefer it and it's funnier if they're literally the same
My head canon for 40k is that when the Necrons went away and the Eldar were becoming the dominant species, their only obstacles were the Krorks which while yes they could just use their own Gods in battle, they could not manage to exterminate them. Therefore it is my theory that the Eldar used their mastery of divinity and manipulation to make the orks create/ split their existing God into Gork and Mork. I also believe the psychic backlash of their creation and inevitable fight between the two gods increased the Krorks tendency for infighting, making managing them way easier on the Eldar. The ork constant infighting while hilarious, does not make sense in the purpose of their creation. I sincerely doubt that the almost omniscient Old ones, while trying to make the universe sturdiest and most efficient canon fodder would overlook such a defect. If your frontline soldiers start going at each other's throats the moment their leader dies, that is not really good when you are facing undying robots with reality warping masters that can literally turn armies into dust. However, the Eldar messing with things built by the Old Ones out of a thirst for power and arrogance is 100% in character for them. So to me like many other things, it's the Eldar's fault.
@@haroldsandahl6408 aren't they already tied to the T'au? I thought that there was evidence that somebody had tampered with/uplifted the T'au between when they were first discovered by Imperium explorers (when they were effectively cavemen) and when they were rediscovered a thousand or so years later after the warp storms died down and that also the T'au's tech for traveling in space looked to be based on old outdated human tech that fell by the wayside once warptravel became a thing. Now which race would have access to human tech so old the Imperium had forgotten it and would have the need for chaos resistant pawns due to a man(or elf)power shortage?
Nah I can totally see the old ones making this a "fail safe" to avoid the Korks killing everyone, that the second they no longer had a big bad external threat they would turn on themselves, I also like the concept that the Korks let themselves go to the point of turning into the Orks, having the eldar do it not only cheapens the Korks who already don't have a lot going for them, and takes the agency from them, but it's fitting for the eldar to solve the threat that way I'll admit
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. Its a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I'm sure she'd get a kick out of it if she found out about this. But in the same time way, she'd complain about being compared about a goddess that was essentially put in a jar by Nurgle.
I honestly think of the Krorks as having a personality similar to custodes. Violent but professional and possibly fairly intellectual since they were completely self sufficient in every way and largely just following orders of the old ones
I like to think of them as the brutes from halo, as smart as everyone else, physically as if not more than everyone else, but with a tendency to just snap and go ape mode. And Orks are just the ape mode with almost none of the other parts
in 40k, I realize that the orks are one of the oldest races. They are one of the most numerous races. They all have an active psychic presence. So yeah, Gork and Mork are bad ass by god standards. The reason they don't get more 'screen' time? I think two reasons. First, they don't bother making warp creatures, no demons or angels or anything. Since 99% of a chaos god's lore comes from what their servants get up to, that gives less action scenes for the boys in green. Second reason? Nobody who meets with them survives.
Also they just don't do anything that interesting most of the time. They're constantly fighting each other, that's all they do outside of occasionally talk to or lend power to one of their followers. It would just be two hundred pages of "Gork punched Mork. Mork punched Gork".
@@voidwalkerbruh7426I think is because Isha is or was(I don’t know) a prisioner of nurgle, and being a prisioner of nurgle is not a pleasant think, I think you can imagine why.
reminder that gork and mork are the 2 missing primarchs. they were too good at fighting the enemies of the imperium and got so invested in battles that the emperor eventually lost track of them and next thing he knew he found them being worshipped by the orks as gods for fighting so good. the rest is history
@@Rayman-kddz2nah, the 2 missing primarchs have little to no lore about them other than that Rogal and Guillisuit helped decide to wipe them from the history books, and took on some of their space marines into their own legions.
YESSSSS. It's nice to have a video about gods outside of the Chaos Gods. It was HARD to find reference for the two main Ork Gods when I made fanart of 'em duking it out with big ol' spikey lad himself, Khorne. I had to use Gargants for reference!
Anything ever: *exists* Gork and Mork: “WWaaaaaaggghhhh!!!” *Immense ultra violence ensues* I was going to say ‘needless violence’ but with orks violence is never needless.
Fun fact about Catachan actually: There are orks on there, but the planet is so damn deadly the Orks spend most of their time not fighting, but trying to get off that blasted world.
I was surprised they went with Krork. I figured they'd go with a name like Gmork, to imply that Gork and Mork represent what the Orks have lost. But I guess they didn't want a lawsuit from the estate of Michael Ende.
@@Bp0981 Kroot became what they are by ingesting Ork flesh in their history - fusion of both Ork gods being worshipped by them is hilarious and surprisingly makes sense
I came here to distract myself that Fauna hasn't streamed a couple of days, and good ol' Pancreas throws her as a stand-in for Isha. My Sapling heart can't take this
I like to imagine gorm and Mork are actually the most active on heated ork on ork battlefields on planets they basically run completely. We just don't see it
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
Not gonna lie, one of the things that kind of makes me like Age of Sigmar is Soulbound talking about how orcs and other Destruction-aligned races aren't necessarily evil. Heck, most of the Bonesplittaz archetypes for orruks are weirdly friendly towards Soulbound from non-orruk races; the Morboy views his Binding members as literally missing pieces of his soul, Wurrgogs find being Soulbound to be spiritually reaffirming, and the Wardokk is characterized as being super-hyped to help non-orruks see just how much fun there can be in smashing things. It's almost sweet, in an odd way.
Man the aos legends about gork and mork are super funny. Like the obe where they got bit by a spider, then bit that spider and now that spider is a waaagh godbeast spider that is also the badmoon. Or the one where Gorkamorka's breath is the everwinter, or the one I like the most about goddrak litteraly being born from gork punching a fortress
Ngl gork and morks being like an earthquake in the warp sone funny ngl i like to imagine a chaos waither report, trying predect where there fight is gonna go next "Tonight in the domain of korn, its expected for a green quake to happen in the east ill 5, remember to lock your doors and board your windows" -chaos news guy
I'm imagining gork delivering a haymaker to mork and he crashes into the garden of nurgle and picks up a big tree or something and basically chairshots gork in the back of the head while he's flexing his muscles to unimpressed daemons
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I think the main reason why Gork and Mork aren't that active in either setting is because they are already busy fighting each other in their realm, regardless if they are the strongest gods or not. Another theory is that their realm is either separate from the warp like the webway, or even worse, the entire warp is their realm and that might explain why Daemons hate the Orcs/Orks
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?” Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
Gork and Mork are Khorne’s old drinking buddies. They’re welcome to enter his citadel of brass anytime they want. Khorne just calls dibs on all skulls.
Nurgle once invited the Boyz to his house to try and teach them the meaning family and brotherly love. One destroyed mansion and a trampled rot rose garden later, and he’s yet to succeed.
i always had the idea that gork and mork use to be one but got bored not having anyone to fight that is at least on par, so he just ripped himself in half, so he could be his own grod
I absolutely love the idea of each god picking a prophet simply because of the hilarious notion that the two gods were gifting their orcs with a lovely holy war to fight, but the orcs being orcs failed to recognize that perfectly good opportunity to smash each other's heads in favor of taking their prophets and smashing up the rest of the world instead. Gork and Mork and Mindy are great.
Gosh I’ve been waiting for this sort of video for so long. Thank you so much for making it, enjoyed hearing about my favorite two green divine doofuses. Here’s a proper WAAAAAGH to your efforts.
I imagine that Mork and Gork spend most of their time looking out of the galaxy. Whilst chanting, "Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!..............."
I don’t know if you can actually see how long I’ve been enjoying your content, but it’s been from the beginning! But this one really takes the cake for me so far! I have not laughed so hard over a video in a long time! This is epic! Thank you!
'Ate pointy ears 'Ate Spikey boys 'Ate stunties 'Ate Humies ... Well not really, they do put up a good krumpin. Love me gods Love me dakka Love me shootas Love me fast boyz Simple As.
My theory is that Gork and Mork are like Sangunious (wrong name I know but we all know our favorite angel boi) in that he is the Kork inside of Trayzns museum. The two share similarities that some part of them still is alive to a degree via some part staying in Stasis, the Kork is ‘alive’ but probably isn’t allowed what is to keep him alive: fight’n. Now over time once all the Korks are dead and it’s just Orks this guy survived and basically could still communicate and so on to a degree in some form; while probably damaged by his own time being in status since since creatures can still be aware during it. After a while the Orcs basically made him or at least his fragmented mind into two gods that are both the same in a sense. This is similar to Horus during ‘slaves to darkness’ we see that there are multiple fragments of Horus’ soul. This is similar to the Emperor in a a few ways. In theory Horus couldn’t return to his clone because above 50% of his soul was destroyed to a degree. This is similar to the Alpha legion’s primarch. They are two souls and apparently the one that died had his soul shattered and scattered throughout his legion. So I’m curious if the Kork is the god, what happens if the gods flesh body is returned to activity? I can imagine the deceiver pulling some stuff and then having to fight the Ork god if this is the case. Add to the Orks already in the collection.
The most competent gods in the setting. They make sure their followers are living their best lives, they bless them with psychic abilities to let them WAAAGH better and they reincarnate their people so they can keep krumping for all eternity. This is why its best to go green.
Have to say I enjoyer your delivery and scripting for this one. Some past videos have been interesting, but I've admittedly had some difficulty following them. Here, I was able to follow everything better!
Pancreas, I'm curious. Do you think GW should do a series on the war in heaven like they did with the horus heresy? or no because the power scaling gets silly?
in dawn of war 1 winter assault the warboss wants to take general sturn's skull to put on his pointy stick, id like to think khorne shotblocked gork and mork to take his soul for this
Nah. Khorne wants people who offer skulls up to him. Gorgutz on the other hand just put them on his own trophy rack for entertainment purposes and bragging rights.
I like the idea that Gork and Mork were one god when the Orks were Krorks but then when they all got collectively stupid they split matching the orks stupidity and love for fighting.
Gork and Mork are the best because orcs love winning. It is an aspect of them. It doesn’t matter because they aren’t planning to overthrow anything ever.
So Isha is the goddess of harvest, growth, fertility, life, nature and healing. Orcs are constantly growing, reproducing mushrooms that heal incredibly well... Is Isha secretly the goddess of the orcs?
I just came up with a theory about the Kroks and their devolution into modern day Orcs. What if Krorks, for all their power and relative smarts, were nevertheless unable to either create or otherwise make use of Gork and Mork? Maybe they saw the gods as a huge enough advantage for their survival, or just their ability to wage a proper krumpin' war, that they willingly devolved their species to a state that would please/empower/create Gork and Mork, thus granting them the favor of two Warp deities so strong that the Chaos Gods view them essentially as moving natural disasters. Perhaps at their level a pair of strong patron gods were ultimately more beneficial than the individual strength of a Krork as compared to a modern day Orc, so they just made the trade -off.
I loved that first examination of what Gork and Mork may or may not have looked like during the war in heaven because that’s basically how we study irl gods Like how during Mycenaean Greece Hades didn’t exist yet and Poseidon was the god of the underworld as well as head god so it’s assumed hades is some form of offshoot of Mycenaean posidon that happened during the dark ages where we have 0 writings and things just kinda show up in Hellenistic Greece a few centuries later.
In the audio drama on Audible there is a Wierdboy saying that: “The Humans are tapping into the Krork Metasphere to cause confusion!” This is exactly how he says that line, without the usual Orky way of speaking, which is part of the Joke cause their is another ork who looks at the wierdboy in complete confusion to what he just said.
Considering that the eldar were also made by the old ones specifically to fight the necrons much like the Krorks, I wouldn't be surprised if the Eldar Gods were originally intelligent warp weapons intended primarily to be levelled at the C'Tan since their one weakness is warp chicanery. Once the old ones died/left and the necrons threat was dealt with, the Eldar gods didn't just stop existing either, so being worshipped as part of a pantheon of religious figures would be about the only way to "decommission" them safely.
Mork'll kick you in the balls and then punch you in the face. Gork'll punch you in the face and then kick you in the balls. A very important distinction.
Personally, on the topic of the strength of the gods relative to eachother, I hold to the idea that power levels are not the main things when it comes to how gods interact. Instead, I hold the same idea that is common in the Everqueed fanfic, that gods all play by narative rules, emotional resonance, by the values and numbers of worshipers, and by the things they embody. Remember. The Warp is shaped by emotions. That is why Slaanesh did what the other three chaos gods could not, and killed the Eldar Pantheon, even when Slaanesh is the weakest chaos god. The Eldar gods had, as gods mostly asociated with order and moderation, and who were many of them have portofolios that are anathema to the Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeentch, had a fundamental narative advantage over the chaos gods, even if they were on paper weaker by the time Slaanesh was born. But Slaanesh had the narative advantage of being the end point of Eldar mistakes, and the living embodiment of the Eldar forsaking their gods. And this is how things go with Gork and Mork, and with Chaos. Slaanesh has no narative power or advantage over the Orks, so she cannot affect their gods. Same goes for Tzeentch to a lesser extenct. The orks dont scheme, and dont bother with such overly complicated nonsense, and dont even have the emotions to allow Tzeentch to corrupt them, which again puts the ork gods at an advantage over the changer of ways. Orks are near perfect organisms and living weapons, unaffected by plagues and diseases, and feel no despair. They dont contemplate destiny, and are incapable of giving up, or of being nihilists. As a result, not only does Nurgle have no way of actually affecting the Ork gods thanks to the narative build around the orks in universe, but the ork gods have the perfect in universe explanation for overpowering the god of plagues. This leaves only Khorne, who is stil limited by the lack of anger, hate and wrath the orks feel, putting him at a disadvantage over the Ork gods, even if he has the best shot. In conclusion, this allows both the Chaos gods to be on paper stronger, and yet to have nothing to affect or hurt the Ork Gods.
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Mork is brutally cunning - which means he hits you when you're not looking.
Gork is cunningly brutal - which means he hits you HARDER when you are looking.
Bullshit, Mork's brutal cunning would mean he knows the value of hitting as hard as you can when you're not looking, and if they's not looking, then yous can hit em even harder cause theyz not gonna stop ya
Pretty sure it’s the other way around
@@wyatt1828nah, kommandos serve Mork
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I can imagine ork theologists getting into cage matches over disagreements on the definitions of "brutally cunning" and "cunningly brutal".
The idea the Gork and Mork are just having a never ending WWE wresting match with the entire chaos realm as the ring - while the chaos gods just unable to stop it - is both hilarious to visualize and stays lore accurate.
The Bad Moon follows them around and shouts about it like the announcer. This is now my head cannon.
"AN' 'ERE COMEZ GORK WIFF DA SHTEEYUL CHAIHR!!!!"
Chaos Gods: Here they come!
@@DarthSidianOOOOOO E’ GOBBED EM WIT DA ROCK
I’d figure Khorne would enjoy the matches
Maugan Ra: FOR THE LOVE OF ELDARKIND, KHAINE JUST *EXPLODED* THROUGH A TABLE!
I like this idea of Gork and Mork just constantly fighting through the warp going through the 4 chaos gods' territory and them just watching on like we watch a tornado passing, hoping they don't get too close
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?”
Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I image Nurgle, siting in his garden peacefully as ge create new dieseses. Then boom, gork and mork bust through the wall, and start fighting each ither. Mork acidently kick over the pot of dieseses.
Then they leave like nothing happend.
So like peter and the chicken
@@komiks42 While slaanesh is busy having torture sex with some random demon only for the 2 to barge in while fist fighting only to push over said bed slaanesh was using, and in stun silence watches as both of them to move on only to look around at the destroyed house, and furniture.
@@khylerbane4523 Kaldor Draigo stands aside watching them like a Midwestern Dad watches a tornado.
My favorite part about Gorkamorka is that every Destruction faction in AoS somewhat represents a different part of him.
The Ironjawz are his crushing fist, the Kruleboyz his grasping hand, the Gloomspite Gitz are his cunning brain, the Bonesplitterz his wild, beating heart, the Mawtribes his hungering mouth/stomach and the Sons Of Behemat are his stomping feet.
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Makes sense
We're almost finished building his body
its morkagorka you useles nob!
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On the topic of if Gork and Mork are the strongest Gods, I feel the easiest way to view it is that they are a physical representation of the Orks themselves.
As individuals, they are little more than fodder, but if all the Orks ever worked together, nothing could really stop them. Same with Gork and Mork; individually, Gork or Mork could never stand up to someone like Khorn but if they worked together they would be unbeatable. However, that would require them to stop fighting each other and if there is one thing an Ork can't do, it's stop fighting.
In short, it would mean that Gork and Mork could destroy everything if they ever realised the power of friendship.
Dats why tha oda gods stays out the way. Dey know what happens if deys try fightin da two of em.
You can say the same about the chaos gods, A lot of people think that the emperor is fighting the 4 of them in a 4 vs 1 battle but the truth is that its more of a 5 way fight of everyone vs everyone, if the gods stopped fighting and worked together they could squash the emperor with ease.
@@AthosJosue Don't be gittish, wes all knows who is best gods, cause green is da best color and Mork and Gork is best green.
@@iclisioussayin' it roigt, you iz!
there was that one bit in an older ork codex about how Gork and Mork were bored and found a cave where the most abonimable and bloodthirsty beast was laying. And they beat the shit out of it leaving it in a pool of it's own blood, almost dead
That beast was Khorne
I dislike the thing where like people say that Gork is more physically strong with melee while Mork is associated with ranged
I prefer it and it's funnier if they're literally the same
Well that the thing though, no one is sure which is which anyway.
They brawl in melee all the time, if one was stronger he'd always win
Pretty sure they're just the same entity split down the middle.
My head canon for 40k is that when the Necrons went away and the Eldar were becoming the dominant species, their only obstacles were the Krorks which while yes they could just use their own Gods in battle, they could not manage to exterminate them. Therefore it is my theory that the Eldar used their mastery of divinity and manipulation to make the orks create/ split their existing God into Gork and Mork. I also believe the psychic backlash of their creation and inevitable fight between the two gods increased the Krorks tendency for infighting, making managing them way easier on the Eldar.
The ork constant infighting while hilarious, does not make sense in the purpose of their creation. I sincerely doubt that the almost omniscient Old ones, while trying to make the universe sturdiest and most efficient canon fodder would overlook such a defect. If your frontline soldiers start going at each other's throats the moment their leader dies, that is not really good when you are facing undying robots with reality warping masters that can literally turn armies into dust.
However, the Eldar messing with things built by the Old Ones out of a thirst for power and arrogance is 100% in character for them.
So to me like many other things, it's the Eldar's fault.
Soon...soon everything will be the Eldar's fault. Just gotta tie them to T'au and Nids to make everything their fault
@@haroldsandahl6408 aren't they already tied to the T'au? I thought that there was evidence that somebody had tampered with/uplifted the T'au between when they were first discovered by Imperium explorers (when they were effectively cavemen) and when they were rediscovered a thousand or so years later after the warp storms died down and that also the T'au's tech for traveling in space looked to be based on old outdated human tech that fell by the wayside once warptravel became a thing.
Now which race would have access to human tech so old the Imperium had forgotten it and would have the need for chaos resistant pawns due to a man(or elf)power shortage?
@@haroldsandahl6408The Eldar kicked a blue fish one time and then they evolved into the t’au out of spite
This is now my offical head cannon
Nah I can totally see the old ones making this a "fail safe" to avoid the Korks killing everyone, that the second they no longer had a big bad external threat they would turn on themselves, I also like the concept that the Korks let themselves go to the point of turning into the Orks, having the eldar do it not only cheapens the Korks who already don't have a lot going for them, and takes the agency from them, but it's fitting for the eldar to solve the threat that way I'll admit
I like that. "They're like a natural disaster but in hell" that's cool
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?”
Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. Its a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
Fauna as a stand in for Isha is funny but not wrong.
Irys as a stand in for Slanesh?
@@ericjeon2727i would go with marine because horni
fact that Kronii has eaten food so spoiled she might as well be a Nurgle worshipper seems fitting
I'm sure she'd get a kick out of it if she found out about this. But in the same time way, she'd complain about being compared about a goddess that was essentially put in a jar by Nurgle.
I honestly think of the Krorks as having a personality similar to custodes. Violent but professional and possibly fairly intellectual since they were completely self sufficient in every way and largely just following orders of the old ones
I like to think of them as the brutes from halo, as smart as everyone else, physically as if not more than everyone else, but with a tendency to just snap and go ape mode.
And Orks are just the ape mode with almost none of the other parts
in 40k, I realize that the orks are one of the oldest races. They are one of the most numerous races. They all have an active psychic presence. So yeah, Gork and Mork are bad ass by god standards. The reason they don't get more 'screen' time? I think two reasons. First, they don't bother making warp creatures, no demons or angels or anything. Since 99% of a chaos god's lore comes from what their servants get up to, that gives less action scenes for the boys in green. Second reason? Nobody who meets with them survives.
Also they just don't do anything that interesting most of the time. They're constantly fighting each other, that's all they do outside of occasionally talk to or lend power to one of their followers. It would just be two hundred pages of "Gork punched Mork. Mork punched Gork".
“If your confused, go into your bathroom, look in the mirror and say ‘Orkz’ until you get it.”
-Old Man Reacts.
*shows fauna as Isha:
"No not like this, please pancreas"
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@@voidwalkerbruh7426I think is because Isha is or was(I don’t know) a prisioner of nurgle, and being a prisioner of nurgle is not a pleasant think, I think you can imagine why.
reminder that gork and mork are the 2 missing primarchs. they were too good at fighting the enemies of the imperium and got so invested in battles that the emperor eventually lost track of them and next thing he knew he found them being worshipped by the orks as gods for fighting so good. the rest is history
headcannon now loaded
I gotta ask is that true? Because I really hope it is
@@Rayman-kddz2nah, the 2 missing primarchs have little to no lore about them other than that Rogal and Guillisuit helped decide to wipe them from the history books, and took on some of their space marines into their own legions.
@@cookiecraze1310 Ohhh okay, thanks for telling me👍
Stop shoving the imperium into every aspect of every peice of lore
I like to think that Gork and Mork are the manifestation of an eternal dialectic thesis, antithesis, and all that jazz
Tell me you’re an oddboy without telling me you’re an oddboy.
YESSSSS. It's nice to have a video about gods outside of the Chaos Gods. It was HARD to find reference for the two main Ork Gods when I made fanart of 'em duking it out with big ol' spikey lad himself, Khorne. I had to use Gargants for reference!
I saw that artwork when I was lookin for images and holy shit dude, that might be the single most metal 40K picture out there.
@@pancreasnowork9939 Oh wow! That means a lot coming from ya! Thank you so much!
Holy shit, I need more of this
i.redd.it/qssgt4mqtum61.png
In case anyone wants to see it
Just found it and can confirm , that shit is glorious
Hell fucking yes. You better talk about how they canonically dunk on the chaos gods regularly
The strength but no mastery theory actually makes a lot of sense.
Anything ever: *exists*
Gork and Mork: “WWaaaaaaggghhhh!!!” *Immense ultra violence ensues*
I was going to say ‘needless violence’ but with orks violence is never needless.
Fun fact about Catachan actually: There are orks on there, but the planet is so damn deadly the Orks spend most of their time not fighting, but trying to get off that blasted world.
Never forget Skarsnik and Gobbla, the best mushroom friendship
Sleep is no longer relevant. Watching this takes priority. No sleeping till This entire video is added to my brain catalog
I was surprised they went with Krork. I figured they'd go with a name like Gmork, to imply that Gork and Mork represent what the Orks have lost. But I guess they didn't want a lawsuit from the estate of Michael Ende.
Funnily enough an orkish being named Gmork does exist as a deity in Kroot mythology.
I don't get the joke please someone explain it to mw
@@Bp0981 Kroot became what they are by ingesting Ork flesh in their history - fusion of both Ork gods being worshipped by them is hilarious and surprisingly makes sense
So páncreas is a Fauna fanboy?
Never thought we’d share more in common
I came here to distract myself that Fauna hasn't streamed a couple of days, and good ol' Pancreas throws her as a stand-in for Isha. My Sapling heart can't take this
Most stable sapling
Agressive mushrooms
Abominable agro'd Acne.
And there you have it the perfect description of writers block. "I got drunk, turned my mind off and truly embraced what it means to be green."
i would like it to be known that i watched this video and immediately afterwards watched a pipkin pippa stream where pancreas showed up in the chat.
True and factual occurrence
I like to imagine gorm and Mork are actually the most active on heated ork on ork battlefields on planets they basically run completely. We just don't see it
I like the idea that Gork and Mork are just natural disasters in the warp and the chaos gods just have to deal with it.
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?”
Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
I just realised that Mario is like the antichrist for orks.
You mean because he eats mushrooms to power up? Frankly, I think they probably relate to that.
Not sure how I feel about Fauna being Isha because… *JAR*
Not gonna lie, one of the things that kind of makes me like Age of Sigmar is Soulbound talking about how orcs and other Destruction-aligned races aren't necessarily evil. Heck, most of the Bonesplittaz archetypes for orruks are weirdly friendly towards Soulbound from non-orruk races; the Morboy views his Binding members as literally missing pieces of his soul, Wurrgogs find being Soulbound to be spiritually reaffirming, and the Wardokk is characterized as being super-hyped to help non-orruks see just how much fun there can be in smashing things. It's almost sweet, in an odd way.
Man the aos legends about gork and mork are super funny.
Like the obe where they got bit by a spider, then bit that spider and now that spider is a waaagh godbeast spider that is also the badmoon.
Or the one where Gorkamorka's breath is the everwinter, or the one I like the most about goddrak litteraly being born from gork punching a fortress
Reminder it was gorks blessing that powered the giant ass claw that the commissar took when he defeated the warboss on Armageddon
Ngl gork and morks being like an earthquake in the warp sone funny ngl i like to imagine a chaos waither report, trying predect where there fight is gonna go next
"Tonight in the domain of korn, its expected for a green quake to happen in the east ill 5, remember to lock your doors and board your windows" -chaos news guy
Fauna as Isha remains the perfect visualization please never stop using this
I'm imagining gork delivering a haymaker to mork and he crashes into the garden of nurgle and picks up a big tree or something and basically chairshots gork in the back of the head while he's flexing his muscles to unimpressed daemons
All while Nurgle is trying to make sure that Isha’s cage isn’t destroyed in the collateral damage.
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?”
Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
WAH-done. Love to hear about the Gloomspite gitz whenever you get around to covering another age of sigmar faction. Thank ya again for more content.
Fauna goddess of life confirmed
Fauna married to a giant blob also comfirmed. :3
oh no she is in nurlgle's basement.
I think the main reason why Gork and Mork aren't that active in either setting is because they are already busy fighting each other in their realm, regardless if they are the strongest gods or not.
Another theory is that their realm is either separate from the warp like the webway, or even worse, the entire warp is their realm and that might explain why Daemons hate the Orcs/Orks
“It’s like a natural disaster, just in hell” 😂 damn man that’s a great way to say it.
Imperium, Eldar(looking for the final cronesword), Tau, and Chaos ship crew travel in the Warp: “What the here is happening? Why are two nebula’s clashing like it’s a Warp Storm in the Warp?”
Local Kaldor Draigo: “That’s just Gork and Mork fight each other. Pay them no mind, they’re harmless as long as you don’t interact with them. It’s a perfectly normal phenomenon here.”
Huh, I was not expecting to see Mommy Fauna here. Nice
I just like how you described gork and mork as a natural warp/hell disaster that is to good
Love how you used fauna as a stand in for isha and joy from blade runner
I really appreciated your take on Mork and Gork
Imagine how funny it would be if a group of orks joined the guardsman because they are both green
Nurgle just bought a snazzy new MILF hat
Man
I
Love
Fauna
Gork and Mork are Khorne’s old drinking buddies. They’re welcome to enter his citadel of brass anytime they want. Khorne just calls dibs on all skulls.
It’s my head cannon that krorks all have posh English accents as opposed to the cockney accent the orks have
In mine too, and I hate them for it.
Nurgle once invited the Boyz to his house to try and teach them the meaning family and brotherly love.
One destroyed mansion and a trampled rot rose garden later, and he’s yet to succeed.
I like the old school idea that Orks have religious wars over whether Gork is brutal but kunnin' and Mork is kunnin' but brutal, or vice versa.
Ive always thought GORK and MORK would make amazing knuckle tattoos
Random question, does anyone have a sauce for the Fauna picture? Kinda want to know the original source so I can enjoy it later, that's all.
i always had the idea that gork and mork use to be one but got bored not having anyone to fight that is at least on par, so he just ripped himself in half, so he could be his own grod
I like how many solutions basically begin with “okay so can y’all fuckin chill for a sec?”
I absolutely love the idea of each god picking a prophet simply because of the hilarious notion that the two gods were gifting their orcs with a lovely holy war to fight, but the orcs being orcs failed to recognize that perfectly good opportunity to smash each other's heads in favor of taking their prophets and smashing up the rest of the world instead. Gork and Mork and Mindy are great.
Gosh I’ve been waiting for this sort of video for so long. Thank you so much for making it, enjoyed hearing about my favorite two green divine doofuses. Here’s a proper WAAAAAGH to your efforts.
I imagine that Mork and Gork spend most of their time looking out of the galaxy. Whilst chanting, "Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!..............."
The idea of two superorks flailing around the warp like a Loony-Toons fight cloud is really funny for some reason 😂
I love that the music from age of mythology is playing in the background
The Foot spell used to have a template...it was "chef's kiss"
The age of mythology music was a good choice
I like the idea or the mental image of Gork and Mork, being the honey badgers of the Warhammer God’s Community
Yes, that is exactly what they are.
If Gork and Mork fight Khrone he would end up with a broken jaw and a kick in nuts.
The ecclesiarchy once ordered my sister to touch grass after she was caught shitposting online. It was nice.
I like to imagine mork picking up a passing imperial ship and absolutely slamming that shiz into gorks face
Gork an Mork, fightin' round the world!
I like to think gork and mork brawl through the warp in a big dust cloud of fists and teeth flying
I like the age of mythology tune in the background you chose well.
I don’t know if you can actually see how long I’ve been enjoying your content, but it’s been from the beginning!
But this one really takes the cake for me so far! I have not laughed so hard over a video in a long time!
This is epic! Thank you!
'Ate pointy ears
'Ate Spikey boys
'Ate stunties
'Ate Humies
...
Well not really, they do put up a good krumpin.
Love me gods
Love me dakka
Love me shootas
Love me fast boyz
Simple As.
I like the idea that Gork and Mork devolved together with the Orks
What i like about them is that one of them is kunnin' but brutal and the other is brutal but kunnin'
My theory is that Gork and Mork are like Sangunious (wrong name I know but we all know our favorite angel boi) in that he is the Kork inside of Trayzns museum.
The two share similarities that some part of them still is alive to a degree via some part staying in Stasis, the Kork is ‘alive’ but probably isn’t allowed what is to keep him alive: fight’n.
Now over time once all the Korks are dead and it’s just Orks this guy survived and basically could still communicate and so on to a degree in some form; while probably damaged by his own time being in status since since creatures can still be aware during it.
After a while the Orcs basically made him or at least his fragmented mind into two gods that are both the same in a sense.
This is similar to Horus during ‘slaves to darkness’ we see that there are multiple fragments of Horus’ soul.
This is similar to the Emperor in a a few ways.
In theory Horus couldn’t return to his clone because above 50% of his soul was destroyed to a degree.
This is similar to the Alpha legion’s primarch.
They are two souls and apparently the one that died had his soul shattered and scattered throughout his legion.
So I’m curious if the Kork is the god, what happens if the gods flesh body is returned to activity?
I can imagine the deceiver pulling some stuff and then having to fight the Ork god if this is the case.
Add to the Orks already in the collection.
The most competent gods in the setting. They make sure their followers are living their best lives, they bless them with psychic abilities to let them WAAAGH better and they reincarnate their people so they can keep krumping for all eternity. This is why its best to go green.
Have to say I enjoyer your delivery and scripting for this one.
Some past videos have been interesting, but I've admittedly had some difficulty following them.
Here, I was able to follow everything better!
Pancreas, I'm curious. Do you think GW should do a series on the war in heaven like they did with the horus heresy? or no because the power scaling gets silly?
No. The Horus Heresy used to only have myths and fragments, then the book series came out and were much less than anything the fans imagined
Remember, belief doesn't do anything to the Warp, only emotions do. But belief shapes an individual or groups emotions...
in dawn of war 1 winter assault the warboss wants to take general sturn's skull to put on his pointy stick, id like to think khorne shotblocked gork and mork to take his soul for this
Nah. Khorne wants people who offer skulls up to him. Gorgutz on the other hand just put them on his own trophy rack for entertainment purposes and bragging rights.
Doesn't matter that is brutal but cunning or cunning yet brutal the green is still best color.
I like the idea that Gork and Mork were one god when the Orks were Krorks but then when they all got collectively stupid they split matching the orks stupidity and love for fighting.
The gods of the boyz being the strongest but also the least coordinated and targeted makes sense. The Orks are like that too in the material realm so
Gork and Mork are the best because orcs love winning. It is an aspect of them. It doesn’t matter because they aren’t planning to overthrow anything ever.
the timing on the blood sugar monitor was absolutely perfect. thanks Dexcom for making my morning!
So Isha is the goddess of harvest, growth, fertility, life, nature and healing.
Orcs are constantly growing, reproducing mushrooms that heal incredibly well...
Is Isha secretly the goddess of the orcs?
My key takeaway from this video is that he named his channel pancreasnowork because he has diabetes. Very based 10/10 would subscribe again
I love that Orks continue to be the best Cockney representation ever and literally have a spell that is just summoning the Monty Python foot.
I just came up with a theory about the Kroks and their devolution into modern day Orcs. What if Krorks, for all their power and relative smarts, were nevertheless unable to either create or otherwise make use of Gork and Mork? Maybe they saw the gods as a huge enough advantage for their survival, or just their ability to wage a proper krumpin' war, that they willingly devolved their species to a state that would please/empower/create Gork and Mork, thus granting them the favor of two Warp deities so strong that the Chaos Gods view them essentially as moving natural disasters. Perhaps at their level a pair of strong patron gods were ultimately more beneficial than the individual strength of a Krork as compared to a modern day Orc, so they just made the trade -off.
I loved that first examination of what Gork and Mork may or may not have looked like during the war in heaven because that’s basically how we study irl gods
Like how during Mycenaean Greece Hades didn’t exist yet and Poseidon was the god of the underworld as well as head god so it’s assumed hades is some form of offshoot of Mycenaean posidon that happened during the dark ages where we have 0 writings and things just kinda show up in Hellenistic Greece a few centuries later.
The ork brothers beign a "natural disaster but in hell" idea, i like it, its my head canon now :p
In the audio drama on Audible there is a Wierdboy saying that: “The Humans are tapping into the Krork Metasphere to cause confusion!”
This is exactly how he says that line, without the usual Orky way of speaking, which is part of the Joke cause their is another ork who looks at the wierdboy in complete confusion to what he just said.
The Beavis and Butthead of Warhammer Gods
Gork amd mork are like an antimater version of ying and yang. Thats kinda cool.
0:26 ahem,
ROCK AND STONE, YEEEEEEAAAAA
Considering that the eldar were also made by the old ones specifically to fight the necrons much like the Krorks, I wouldn't be surprised if the Eldar Gods were originally intelligent warp weapons intended primarily to be levelled at the C'Tan since their one weakness is warp chicanery.
Once the old ones died/left and the necrons threat was dealt with, the Eldar gods didn't just stop existing either, so being worshipped as part of a pantheon of religious figures would be about the only way to "decommission" them safely.
Mork'll kick you in the balls and then punch you in the face.
Gork'll punch you in the face and then kick you in the balls.
A very important distinction.
Personally, on the topic of the strength of the gods relative to eachother, I hold to the idea that power levels are not the main things when it comes to how gods interact. Instead, I hold the same idea that is common in the Everqueed fanfic, that gods all play by narative rules, emotional resonance, by the values and numbers of worshipers, and by the things they embody. Remember. The Warp is shaped by emotions.
That is why Slaanesh did what the other three chaos gods could not, and killed the Eldar Pantheon, even when Slaanesh is the weakest chaos god. The Eldar gods had, as gods mostly asociated with order and moderation, and who were many of them have portofolios that are anathema to the Khorne, Nurgle and Tzeentch, had a fundamental narative advantage over the chaos gods, even if they were on paper weaker by the time Slaanesh was born. But Slaanesh had the narative advantage of being the end point of Eldar mistakes, and the living embodiment of the Eldar forsaking their gods.
And this is how things go with Gork and Mork, and with Chaos. Slaanesh has no narative power or advantage over the Orks, so she cannot affect their gods. Same goes for Tzeentch to a lesser extenct. The orks dont scheme, and dont bother with such overly complicated nonsense, and dont even have the emotions to allow Tzeentch to corrupt them, which again puts the ork gods at an advantage over the changer of ways.
Orks are near perfect organisms and living weapons, unaffected by plagues and diseases, and feel no despair. They dont contemplate destiny, and are incapable of giving up, or of being nihilists. As a result, not only does Nurgle have no way of actually affecting the Ork gods thanks to the narative build around the orks in universe, but the ork gods have the perfect in universe explanation for overpowering the god of plagues.
This leaves only Khorne, who is stil limited by the lack of anger, hate and wrath the orks feel, putting him at a disadvantage over the Ork gods, even if he has the best shot.
In conclusion, this allows both the Chaos gods to be on paper stronger, and yet to have nothing to affect or hurt the Ork Gods.
I love how Gork and Mork fight each other so much because the Orks obly believe that all Gork and Mork would be doing is fighting.