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  • Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
  • 7-1/4 Inch Framing Saw Blade Testing | 2022
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    After many of you commented on accessory testing, we came up with the idea to use the circular saw Head-2-Head test-rig to put some 7-1/4 framing blades to the test.
    Saw blades come in a variety of designs, primarily revolving around the number of teeth. Blades with more teeth yield a smoother cut, and blades with fewer teeth remove material faster.
    We decided to test 7 common $10-$12 dollar framing blades and see how they held up under extreme cutting conditions.
    Standard 7-1/4 framing blades have 24 teeth and are effective for rough carpentry, where speed is prioritized over an ultra-smooth cut.
    The blades were:
    • Crescent Nail
    • Dewalt
    • Diablo Framing
    • Irwin Marathon
    • Makita Ultra-Thin Kerf
    • Milwaukee
    • Spyder Tarantula
    Blade Performance Test
    The speed at which a circular saw can cut through a particular material is a factor of the blade shape (width, diameter, tooth count, and tooth shape), blade rotational speed, and horizontal force applied. We wanted to accelerate the wear and tear stress on these blades, so we designed a brutal 8-foot nail-embedded lumber rip-cut.3 cuts were performed, and the time was averaged. We used 3 new 6Ah Flexvolt batteries, and 3 new blades for this 3-cut test.
    For cutting material, we used an 8-foot 2×10 KD with 16 penny nails embedded every 1 inch. The material was pre-drilled along the center axis to reduce splitting. We installed the16D nails by hand, resulting in 94 nails in 8-feet.
    Circular Saw Variables
    For our test saw, we chose to use the winner of our Head-to-Head test, the Dewalt FlexVolt model # DCS5781 circular saw.
    For every test, we used a fully charged, ambient temperature battery in the Dewalt saw. After each test, the saw was allowed to rest for 5 minutes and cooled with compressed air through the vent slots.
    We did not experience any electronic or battery overload issues during this testing.
    Controlling Cutting Variables
    To test the longevity and cutting power of these saw blades the TBB crew needed to control cutting variables. We achieved this by using the same circular saw and same cut board and nails for each cut. A drop-weight pulley system and low friction saw sled rig was used to achieve a repeatable constant force cut.
    For our cutting sled, we used a Kreg Accu-cut track system, secured to our testing rig, and an 8-foot section of 2×10 KD lumber was indexed underneath.
    The Accu-cut sled was pulled by a line, and a series of low friction pullies and attached to an 11 lb. weight which provided a consistent 11lb horizontal force to pull the saw through the cut.
    After each cut, the sled and track were cleaned of all sawdust and debris. Before the first run of each saw the sled was lubricated with silicone spray and inspected to ensure a smooth low friction cut.
    Controlling Timing Variables
    Electro-mechanical micro-switches were secured to the start and stop sections of the cutting rig.
    The time automatically started as the saw began its cut and again automatically stopped as the sled reached the far end, and the cut was finished. If a blade was unable to complete the full cut before the blade deteriorated to a point where smoking or safety became a concern the timer was manually stopped, and the length of cut was noted.
    Nails Cut Results - Winner Diablo
    We used “nails cut” vs. “time cut” as a scoring variable. As a remodeling contractor, I’d much rather have a blade last longer than cut faster and wear out sooner.
    The winner of the test was the Diablo Framing blade which cut 94 nails in 34-seconds. It was also the only saw to complete the full rip cut and clearly had more life in the blade to cut additional material.
    Second place went to the Crescent Nail Slicer cutting a total of 91 nails in 54 seconds before the blade was unable to continue cutting.
    Third place was a tie between the Dewalt [87 nails in 67 seconds] and Milwaukee framing blades [87 nails in 80 seconds]
    The Spyder Tarantula blade came one nail short at 86 nails in 32 seconds. It cut almost as fast as the Diablo blade but the cutting capacity diminished and the saw stopped cutting.
    Note - Many of these saw blades stopped on the track but could be manually pushed thru additional nails [with more pushing force] but we did not record that.
    Conclusion
    This test had some impressive results and proved to us that a 10-12 dollar blade can be successful and productive in a framing and remodeling environment when cutting nail-embedded wood.
    #FramingBlade #SawBladeTest #HeadToHead #ToolTest
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 178

  • @ericborden6007
    @ericborden6007 2 роки тому +59

    Rob, 45 yrs in the business doing 50/50 mix of remodeling and new construction. I have used every blade in your test and keep coming back to the Diablo. It seems to be the fastest and longest lasting blade we have used. Good test and the results follow what we have experienced in the field

    • @joetomko3957
      @joetomko3957 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed have a 10 pack in my truck at all times

    • @jonathanconway7256
      @jonathanconway7256 2 роки тому

      And the VA blades suck!

    • @paulnork5284
      @paulnork5284 2 роки тому

      Agree, I hate when true value don't have any and got to get dewalt, it doesn't last long

    • @Dirtyharry70585
      @Dirtyharry70585 2 роки тому

      I normally remove the 1” of paint from the hole. Sucks cutting damp decking without sanding the washer bolt and blade shaft area of the blade. Damn thing even stops without removing it. Swapped to a non paint blade that day. Was using a corded ‘90’s porter cable my go to

    • @michaelenockson6536
      @michaelenockson6536 2 роки тому

      Diablo. All day. The Dewalt is pretty good, also.

  • @brentjenkinsdesigns
    @brentjenkinsdesigns 2 роки тому +14

    Personally Im always taking my sweet time when making cuts due to my many sawing mistakes. So, for me, the longer lasting blade would be my "go to" or buying preference. Thanks for all you do to help all of us. It's sincerely appreciated.

  • @2chipped
    @2chipped 2 роки тому +5

    Unless you have extra blades within 4 ft of the saw at all times.
    The time savings is lost walking around the drywallers smoking in the garage (raining) , tripping over the tile guys extension cord in the driveway/busting your butt on wet concrete, sliding around the painters washout area by the dumpster, getting into the truck for a replacement, back through the jobsite up two flights of stairs, then realize the wrench fell out. Fast cutting is cute lol

  • @IMPACT-NATION
    @IMPACT-NATION 2 роки тому +5

    That’s how you know when we have an honest reviewer. When he explains what blades, tool, and testing method were used. We get a few clips of the blades in use and he tells us the times and nails cut. We take his word for it because that genuine Ora comes from Rob. That honesty is felt through the video and I hope I am speaking for everyone on this. Great test, great review, Awesome channel. To all who were involved 🙌 thank you. I have so many favorite channels but this might be the top shelf here.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks man we put heart and soul into our work, much thanks 🙏

  • @jncn1490
    @jncn1490 2 роки тому +8

    Great channel, even if I disagree with certain videos, it’s still a great channel. Solid testing this time. 34 yrs framing and the Diablo tracking point is by far the best blade on the market. Cuts faster, smoother and tracks better then any blade out there. And on holidays they are 2 for $12

  • @jake9705
    @jake9705 2 роки тому +12

    I'm a DIYer who prefers blade longevity/durability over cut speed.
    Changing blades is annoying. My projects are so small and infrequent that I can tolerate the extra seconds it takes to cut things. And since I'm an amateur, I also rely on blades with high durability since I wouldn't know a nearly worn out or damaged blade if I saw one.

  • @thomascollins72
    @thomascollins72 2 роки тому +4

    Very impressive testing. Better than any of the magazines. Thank you.

  • @SilatShooter
    @SilatShooter 3 місяці тому +1

    Great Video! Have been a fan and user of Diablo blades for years so not surprised it won. Only blades I buy.

  • @julianceballos8795
    @julianceballos8795 2 роки тому +3

    I really enjoyed the Makita thin kurf blade. very high quality and accurate on large lumber and plywood. The saw had a long battery life. Diablo framing blades are great for general use.

  • @R4wF4ce
    @R4wF4ce 2 роки тому +1

    For a framing/ general purpose blade, longevity is definitely more important. The time lost having to go find a new blade and change it, vs a few seconds for each 8' length is a no-contest. Keep up the great work and thanks!

  • @davidparseth
    @davidparseth 2 роки тому +1

    G'day Rob, I builder specialising in new builds and don't often have to deal with nail embedded timber so for me having faster and smoother cuts is important. Also feels more enjoyable completing a smoothly cut. Great work Rob and the team, keep the reviews coming because it helps me stay up to date with new equipment and gear that works best for me, cheers 🍻 👏

  • @michaela3330
    @michaela3330 2 роки тому +3

    Great review again guys!!! Thanks!
    I would love to see you compare drilling bits of all kinds, specially the masonry and the multi-material ones.

    • @homelee665
      @homelee665 2 роки тому

      I'll second that, but would prefer multi-material and metal drilling. Masonry would be a close third.

  • @makingstuff242
    @makingstuff242 2 роки тому +2

    Nice work team. But I wonder if the accelerated wear test is realistic because if you’re only doing framing you probably won’t hit a nail. And I wonder if other factors would play in, such as the coating on the blade or the carbide tips versus heat or sap. For a demolition blade sure the test is more relevant.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  2 роки тому

      Good point - I'm a remodeler. I like the cost of these blades for a demo, framing, etc.

  • @barilles7510
    @barilles7510 Рік тому +1

    As a Contractor Carpenter/Framer and Deck Builder I chose Makita Max Efficiency 24t Carbide super thin kerf blade over the others. As framer I don't cut nails when doing framing. Now If I'm gonna be doing a Demolition work, I'll use Diablo Wood and Metal circular saw blade 36t thick kerf saw blade that can cut nails, Deck screws even lag bolts too. And I have 4 sets of saw for for each and every work. For Framing I use corded circular saw either my Makita 5377MG Hypoid Saw or Bosch CSW41 Worm drive saw with Makita Max Efficiency saw blade. For demolition I use my Makita 36V rear handle saw equipped with Diablo 36T Wood and Metal blade. For cutting thick metals I got Flex 24V rear handle saw with stack lithium battery equipped with Diablo 48T Hard Metal saw blade. And for Concrete I use DeWalt DWE575SB equipped with Diamond Grit saw blade for cutting concrete or bricks also I use it too for cutting cement board.

    • @juliuscesar7126
      @juliuscesar7126 7 днів тому

      Thank you for describing this as a carpenter thats into tools this is one of the best comments ive read.
      I felt like i was there with your tools
      My corded skilsaw is stored in my garage. I run the 40v makita 7 1/4 and 6 1/2. The 18v 5 3/8s. Dewalt 4 1/2. And i need to repair my 36v the motor burnt out, that is demo/cement board saw
      I alao scored the 10 1/4 at friedmans no box for $240 so i had to buy it!

  • @tumbleweed0u812
    @tumbleweed0u812 Рік тому

    I've been using Diablo blades for years now, thanks for such thorough results!

  • @hb2sami
    @hb2sami Рік тому

    Your testing is top notch, I love your channel, you are my go-to channel for reviews and testing. Keep up the awesome content!

  • @citizen5700
    @citizen5700 2 роки тому +2

    i enjoy your comparisons. i would like to see finishing miter saw blades comparing smoothness, quickness through hard woods, and longevity.

  • @chetfishmt
    @chetfishmt 2 роки тому +2

    Glad to see Diablo on top. I'm a fan. I tend to use the 60 tooth for most everything. I think it does a great job in most all materials. The 24 tooth diablo demo demon is my go to if I think I might hit nails. It would be cool to see a battery longevity test of 24 tooth framing vs 60 tooth fine blade. And a head to head 24 tooth framing vs 24 tooth demo demon on the same sled setup. Thanks for putting out all the great reviews. As a carpenter who wants the best tools, many of my purchases have been based on your research! 👍

  • @michaelnichols7669
    @michaelnichols7669 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with you, longevity is more important for me than speed.

  • @mongocrock
    @mongocrock 2 роки тому +2

    For me the answer is both. If remodeling type work then I will put on a Diablo thats designed to cut nails.
    If I know I will be doing a new material project that Makita is fast smooth and easy on the battery. Just not as durable against metal.

  • @eldergeektromeo9868
    @eldergeektromeo9868 2 роки тому +2

    Last longer.......Thanks Rob!!

  • @MrArcticPOWER
    @MrArcticPOWER 2 роки тому +3

    I do care a bit about cutting speed but longevity is always priority. That being said, I don't care how much nails my framing blade can cut because I don't use it to cut nails. That's why I'm not too sure about tests like these because even if the Diablo can cut 94 nails, it's not the nails that will kill the blade for most carpenter. In my case, I'll often go through a blade and I know for a fact that I've never cut a single nail with it. What I would like to know is which blade lasts longer cutting only clean wood.
    All in all, I still think the Diablo would always come out on top. Like many, it's been my go to for years just like their reciprocating saw blades.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 роки тому

      Durability definitely matters when you don’t have a spare. I had a bunch of friends over to build some garage shelves. 1 stupid nail ruined my Ryobi oem blade. 30 minute trip to the store. A pro would have had an extra blade on site. So for small diy I would go with durability. But a pro might have a different opinion.

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 роки тому

      I still have blades from the 1970’s. So I just don’t do enough cutting to ever where out a blade with clean wood. That is obviously not your situation.

  • @squirtdaddy3428
    @squirtdaddy3428 2 роки тому +3

    Once you get an XGT power planer, I would love to see an H2H of power planers. Im waiting for the XGT but another one msy be better. Wehave an M18 now but dont like it, it bogs down and shuts off way to easy.
    A jigsaw blade comparison would be nice to see on wood.

  • @89dhvac
    @89dhvac 2 роки тому +1

    I’m most interested in the toughest blade. I’m please to see I was right about Spyder. Thanks for the test Rob!

  • @Alfred496
    @Alfred496 2 роки тому +1

    Agreed number of cuts is best vs how fast

  • @brettbenson563
    @brettbenson563 2 роки тому +2

    Long lasting would be my choice. Thanks for the good work.

  • @jimwiskus8862
    @jimwiskus8862 Рік тому

    I’m never in a hurry. As Norms says measure twice and cut once. In this case, smarter not harder. I was leaning towards the Diablo before I saw this. This seals it. I would always be in favor of longevity vs speed. Just my 2¢ worth. New subscriber!!! Thanks so much. See you in the next installment.

  • @dilldowschwagginz2674
    @dilldowschwagginz2674 2 роки тому +1

    I've been very impressed with the Spyder blades.

  • @Richard-wk9le
    @Richard-wk9le 2 роки тому +3

    I cut nails with a Sawzal and a bimetal blade, there's one more factor that your not considering the wear and tear on the saw its self which could be significant especially if the nail (s) are hardened as in concrete nails... who knows whats in or was used ? the down time, cost, wipes out any time savings.

  • @travisjazzbo3490
    @travisjazzbo3490 2 роки тому +2

    When I saw that you were using the Makita THIN KERF blade, I knew that was going to be last! I love Makita tools, but when it comes to accessories, they are too often a disappointment. They feel cutting fast on a cross-cut is more important than the blade holding up through nails, and I am sure 98% of construction people would rather the blade last longer, as you guys are saying. As usual, Diablo is at the top. To know what they are doing far more often than not.

  • @edhalson3154
    @edhalson3154 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Rob...another good test. It will certainly influence my next blade purchase. One thing that gets up my nose is sandpaper. I purchased Irwin mesh type - supposed to last 4 x longer...bollocks it does! Expensive (in NZ) and not worth the $$ compared to normal! How about a H2H on orbital sandpaper types. What actually lasts longer. Also, Forstner bits... not all are equal! Wonderful job as always...thank you!

    • @hansangb
      @hansangb 2 роки тому

      Interestingly, I just used the 3M Cubitron mesh sandpaper. It actually worked faster than my carbide Duragrit sandpaper. I'm sure the Duragrit will last longer, but the 3M is holding up. And my oh my does it eat up the wood. Also, the dust extraction is SUPERB compared to any other brand I've tried. This was on an random orbital sander.

  • @Anglo-EgyptianMan
    @Anglo-EgyptianMan 2 роки тому +2

    Great video idea!

  • @evolvep2747
    @evolvep2747 2 роки тому +1

    love Diablo blades and they look awesome on my bosch circular saws, its the same bosch red

  • @bobcougar77
    @bobcougar77 2 роки тому +2

    That Makita Max efficiency blade is really thin. The kerf is probably a little over half the size of most. I only have the one that came free with the saw. The first few cuts I made were 90's on 2x4's. I thought this thing is awesome. Cut super fast and clean.
    Then I tried to use it to cut rafters... I seriously doubted my ability to run a saw... The little micro-corrections I tend to make are almost impossible to do with that thin blade. Swapped it with the Diablo and I was fine.
    I felt to me like if you're the type of guy that picks the dead right path right off the bat with your saw, that blade might be awesome.

    • @davey820051
      @davey820051 2 роки тому

      Totally agree. I was less than happy with both my Makita (corded) hypoid saw and the LXTx2 rear handle saw until I switched out the OEM Makita blades for DeWalt 24T. Diablos are great, too, but Makita blades are just too thin. Even on remodeling work, I try my best not to cut nails with a skill saw for reasons of blade longevity and safety.

  • @euphgolf
    @euphgolf 2 роки тому +3

    First of all, heck of a scientific method. Killed it. Repeatable. Controlled. Second, while watching your video, as soon as you started to describe your method, I was randomly listening to a song on Spotify that my brain was telling me was actually in YOUR video. It paired really well and greatly improved the intensity and interest of your content. It's Scene 1 by Michael Galasso from the album Scenes. Cue it up at 1:45 of your video. Have you considered adding some music to your videos?

  • @ccadama
    @ccadama 2 роки тому +2

    A Concord Carpenter / ToolBoxBuzz. Great testing and explanations on your testing methods Rob.
    I prefer longer lasting blades over faster cuts. Even though blades are consumables, I'd still have to buy replacements and I'd hate to stop working just because I'm out of blades and have to make a trip to the store. Plus the down time to change blades slows me down so am I really saving money with faster cuts?
    Hope you, the staff at TBB, and your families stay safe and well.

  • @ericfelix13
    @ericfelix13 2 роки тому +1

    Really nice review Rob. Thanks!

  • @joeygallant27
    @joeygallant27 2 роки тому +1

    Love the video. Here’s my opinion, I work in new construction and pretty much all I do. I would like to see a test where you rip 2x lumber and plywood/osb not peppered with nails. Like speed of cut, longevity etc.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  2 роки тому

      Speed would be easy but a longevity test in clean wood would take thousands of lf rips to do, “ain’t nobody got time for that!” ;)

  • @Sparkystacoma
    @Sparkystacoma 2 роки тому

    As I don't usually intend to cut nails it's more important that it survives the cut. My helper was cutting up lumber for trash pile and the Diablo actually cut through a 3/8" carriage bolt. Blade was almost dead so I let him finish the other cuts. Dang impressed I was

  • @natehoover5266
    @natehoover5266 2 роки тому +1

    Diablo has all the best blades for all saws!

  • @steverone7623
    @steverone7623 2 роки тому +1

    In my humble opinion, anything Diablo is going to be pretty good. I’ve had nothing but positive experiences with Diablo brand.

    • @Fpsnut
      @Fpsnut 2 роки тому +1

      Diablo saw blades and nail embedded wood oscillating tool blades are amazing. Their jigsaw blades are ok but not mind blowing like the other two.

  • @andrewavellino6427
    @andrewavellino6427 2 роки тому +1

    I want a blade that cuts fast AF and last forever,buuuttt... That's not really a possibility so next best thing is the Diablo for sure, they've really got their carbide formulations on point and know what they're doing. Literally only blades I buy, for both my carpentry/remodeling work, and woodworking hobby, all I use is Diablo.

  • @mikekmm
    @mikekmm Рік тому

    U guys doing amazing tests

  • @davetaylor4741
    @davetaylor4741 2 роки тому +2

    Those blades are a lot dearer in Australia as are most things. For the blade to last longer is nice. But overall user experience is important. I have that Dewalt saw and the rear handle Dewalt. I hate Dewalt blades. I struggle to find diamond arbor blades in Oz. You can get the Dewalt one but the saw is crap with it. I actually import Diablo blades from US to use on it. Different animal. Diablo blades in my opinion are by far the best for circular saws.

  • @Shmankafy
    @Shmankafy 2 роки тому +1

    I'd love to see how TBB tackles Deep Cut Bandsaw Blades for Heavy and Light Metals

  • @bradleykornele
    @bradleykornele 2 роки тому +1

    Hole saw comparison video would be nice time to update my set

  • @tipofthepocketsord1682
    @tipofthepocketsord1682 2 роки тому +1

    Love this test. Thanks.

  • @robertorguez8148
    @robertorguez8148 6 місяців тому

    Very interesting test, thank you.

  • @DavidsonMott
    @DavidsonMott 2 роки тому +1

    How about best jig saw blades? Including the ones from Harbor Freight???

  • @michealadams1206
    @michealadams1206 2 роки тому +1

    Longevity anyway! And please review more of the Spyder 7 1/4 circular blades & do you currently recommend them???

  • @12tremblay
    @12tremblay Рік тому

    Well done sir !

  • @thenetwerx
    @thenetwerx 2 роки тому

    As a roofer that uses my Makita 36V rear handle saw for ripping new sheets of plywood I’m interested in speed more than durability cutting through nails. My sawzall is for demo when old work has nails and needs to be removed.

  • @andrewwithers530
    @andrewwithers530 2 роки тому +2

    I would like to see testing on oscillating multi tool blades. It seems like I got through those so fast. Also wondering if those sharpeners the have for those actually work. Thanks for the great videos TBB.

    • @baraksinz
      @baraksinz 2 роки тому

      I would like to see these tested as well! I’ve found that the carbide blades do last longer. The key to making any blade last longer is to not let the heat build up too much. Keep the tool moving back and forth as much as possible and blades will last much longer.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  2 роки тому

      @@baraksinz agreed

  • @blackbear92201
    @blackbear92201 2 роки тому +2

    If a longer-lasting blade saves more time (and cost), then I agree it's the right choice. But if I were making an impulse decision, man it's tough to pass up a blade that cuts faster! For accessories, how about a close look at extension cords (eg., durability against wear/cuts, etc.)?

    • @ecospider5
      @ecospider5 2 роки тому

      Yes. In general I would go for the more durable blade. But if I was building a deck from brand new wood the faster blade might be useful.

    • @baraksinz
      @baraksinz 2 роки тому

      But the speed margins are so tiny, there’s really not much difference. Durability wins out for me

  • @Jddlincoln
    @Jddlincoln 2 роки тому +1

    I would much rather have a blade that lasts over one that cuts a bit faster. I have always been a fan of the Diablo. I feel the bang for the buck is right with them.

  • @waderedsox
    @waderedsox 2 роки тому +2

    longevity without question unless its like 2 or 3 times as slow

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 2 роки тому +1

    I want longevity. I had 5 friends over to help make some garage shelves. We had to stop for 30 minutes to get a blade do to 1 nail destroying my Ryobi oem blade.

  • @freedomforamericans1174
    @freedomforamericans1174 Рік тому

    This test would be very appriciated without nails in the lumber just good old 2x material. Love the video!

  • @libtards1393
    @libtards1393 2 роки тому

    Diablo makes the best blades for everything circ, recip, grind, holes.

  • @HogeN1337
    @HogeN1337 2 роки тому +1

    always nicer to have a blade that last longer and a 3-5pack last long . If pick worng blade that can add up over time and get expensive without notice it

  • @jimkane9832
    @jimkane9832 2 роки тому +1

    I would change the way you score some of the tests. The Diablo completed the test so it should get 10 points but 4 of the other blades were pretty close and should get 8 or 9 points. If you want to weigh durability over performance then score performance on a 0 to 5.
    If one blade is 95% as durable but has 50% better performance it is clearly the better blade.
    If durability is the only thing that matters to you then throw out your framing blades and run steel cutting blades.

  • @jeffgerat4733
    @jeffgerat4733 2 роки тому +1

    Not sure when they’re coming out but Dewalt Elite series blades are claiming they’ll be better than Diablo. I doubt it but would like a review once you get your hands on some.

  • @TheSirPotato
    @TheSirPotato 2 роки тому +1

    I'm not a speedy worker, I prefer longer lasting blades, I have the power detect DeWalt saw and I still have the original blade, but I rarely cut nail or screw embedded wood

  • @ravenbarsrepairs5594
    @ravenbarsrepairs5594 Рік тому

    Just picked up a couple of the Spyder 24t blades in 2pks for $8 a couple days ago($4/ea), and looking for how much quality I can expect. Not using my saws much these days, and have been runing a plywood blade on my main(Craftsman Industrial wormdrive) saw for a couple years, as it's simply worked for all the cuts I've needed. I've also got an older Makita sidewinder that everyone loved that I plan on equipping with these blades, as why have multiple blades between the saw fleet when their getting used for the same tasks,preference being whichever is closer. No plan on cutting through nails, as I've got plenty of old framing blades to use for demo tasks.
    As to your question, as a homegamer, my times less expensive than blades, so I prefer blades that last longer vs a slightly quicker cut. More cuts per dollar vs quicker cuts that mean less cuts per blade.

  • @juliuscesar7126
    @juliuscesar7126 7 днів тому

    Ive always ran diablo thats what the jobsite always had and has. I looked at my makits max efficiency blade and the teeth are so intricate compared to the diablos. The top of the blade tooth is angled at roughly 45 degree. Compared to diablos newr horizontal tooth. Also when looking down the tooth its not flat like a pancake it has and angle on the tip of the tooth making it an obtuse angle.
    I was blown away by makitas design and want to buy some more of there blades to try them.

  • @AndrewBrowner
    @AndrewBrowner 2 роки тому +1

    help us get the most out of cut off wheels, corded grinder vs battery grinder how much does the rpm difference make, fast cut vas slow cut, is slower always better or is there a middle ground that works best, plunge cut or scoring cut, and once best method is determined compare disks

  • @joedance14
    @joedance14 2 роки тому +1

    Nice analysis! The consensus seems to be that longevity is more important than speed. I concur.
    Q: is the 24 tooth “framing” blade considered a “rip” blade? Or is it more of a crosscut blade? Or something else entirely?

  • @scotto541
    @scotto541 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @Fr3sh-Kush
    @Fr3sh-Kush Рік тому

    Diablo, spyder and dewalt are my first 3 top picks in that order. Best if you might encounter nails/screws/concrete on whatever you cut. Spyder is the 3rd pick from my list but its definitely good bang for the buck! Makita is my 4th pick. Beautiful blade but becomes trash instantly if you hit anything besides wood

  • @Dirtyharry70585
    @Dirtyharry70585 2 роки тому +1

    Cuts and lives another day.

  • @adventist11
    @adventist11 2 роки тому +1

    Haha i wish the diablos were that closly priced in nz😆 i just buy the irwins and make sure i not hitting nails! They seem to last not bad also

  • @nelsoncarpentry
    @nelsoncarpentry 2 роки тому +4

    When I'm in a reno/remodel situation, potentially cutting wood with nails, I usually throw on an old, used blade. Good to know how long they can last though. I wonder if the demo demon would've done even better.

    • @patrickcallahan2210
      @patrickcallahan2210 2 роки тому +3

      Now that they have a repeatable setup maybe they can test more blades and have a running leaderboard! Demo Demon would be good to see for sure!

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  2 роки тому

      @@patrickcallahan2210 agreed! The DD is a beast

  • @philliplanfre347
    @philliplanfre347 Рік тому

    It's a great tool honestly I recommend it friends.

  • @spikeboi55
    @spikeboi55 2 роки тому

    Longevity is always king

  • @daphlavor
    @daphlavor 2 роки тому +1

    I’d like a blade that can take the abuse. I have the Diablo blade loaded into my saw, after my last blade nicked a nail in a pallet, it wouldn’t cut butter afterwards! Avanti blades are decent for the money. Thanks

  • @nathanwoita1033
    @nathanwoita1033 2 роки тому

    I'd like to see a test with DeWalt's new elite framing blade, and Diablo demo demon

  • @ancientwestonian
    @ancientwestonian 2 роки тому

    Definitely want the longevity, this actually saves you time in the long run because you won't lose speed as soon as a blade that wears faster and cuts faster, in not too long that blade is not going to be faster anymore, then you have to take time to change it. And who are these people who think they are so fast at framing that split seconds on a cut actually matter, i mean c'mon, really? you're not Larry Haun.

  • @posmaster22
    @posmaster22 2 роки тому +1

    What's more important to me? Looking cool. I care most about a cool graphic that doesn't get worn off the blade. As everyone knows looking cool comes first and everything else after. But for real, most important is durability balanced with accuracy of cut. If it still cuts but not straight it's no good.

    • @ConcordCarpenter
      @ConcordCarpenter  2 роки тому

      Remember kids…… it doesn’t mater if we win or lose, it’s how we look playing the game

  • @kjelltol943
    @kjelltol943 2 роки тому

    i would like to see SDS drill bits tested if possible

  • @chriscleave2173
    @chriscleave2173 2 роки тому

    I’ve never used the Spyder blades but I’d run one if I couldn’t get a Diablo. I’ve never seen a Crescent but I wouldn’t scoff at it, either.

  • @arealmaintenanceandrepairl1103

    Maybe put some weight on the saws on the next test to keep it from rising when it’s cutting threw the nails

  • @diigy123
    @diigy123 2 роки тому

    I’m leaning more towards cuts faster. You are test basic blades so if blades are similar in price and I know I’m going to buy a pack five or ten then longevity is not important speed speed speed. Also my struggle is find good multi tool blades a review on those would be great. I lean towards craftsman as they seem to do a good job for the price. But if I could find a blade that last longer through I would say finish nail not 16penny. Again thanks

  • @derekbryant6137
    @derekbryant6137 Рік тому

    Well the obvious answer for me would be last longer don't necessarily need to be all that fast when you're doing remodeling especially if it's a long turnaround durability is a huge factor for me

  • @littlecedar3425
    @littlecedar3425 Рік тому

    @Concord Carpenter. To me sir I don't do Remodeling it's not my thing. I only do Framing, Decking, Sheathing and Drywalling and Demolition mostly masons or Concrete. I even do Electricity as well and I also do Welding and Metal fabrication on a Freelance Basis whenever I have time for some extra gigs but most of the time I do framing. And I chose Makita Max Efficiency ATAF-R Ultra Thin Kerf Circular Saw blade because it cuts faster, cleaner, No tear outs and cuts are so smooth and it's much better than Diablo framing blade, and the Makita Max Efficiency ATAF-R Ultra Thin Kerf Circular Saw blade is what I use since it came out of the market. The blade last me for 2 months of use and abuse only cutting clean wood with no nails. But IF I'm gonna do some demolition work I use Diablo 36T Wood and Metal circular saw blade or the Diablo 24T Demolition blade (The Amped version that cost $14 per blade) I admit The Makita Max Efficiency ATAF-R Ultra Thin Kerf blade is not good for cutting nails and demolition but this blade is far superior than Diablo when it comes to cutting clean wood this blade eliminated my needs for switching to 40T or 60T blade where I can only use the 24T and I will still get the same results as what 60T ultra fine blade does. I don't use Diablo framing blades because the kerf is so thick that it drains a lot of battery, it's bad for the saw. And by the way I still uses Corded circular saw in my Jobsite everyday I use Makita Hypoid Saw and Skilsaw worm drive. I only use cordless Makita 36V rear handle saw for Demolition and cutting metal or steel for welding.

  • @boosted2.4_sky
    @boosted2.4_sky 2 роки тому +1

    LET'S GO ROB!!!🏁
    Longevity...buy less ...😢 cry less...lol

  • @982Nighthawk1337
    @982Nighthawk1337 2 роки тому +1

    I also would like a blade that will last longer rather than be faster.

  • @mysterMM
    @mysterMM 2 роки тому +1

    Any chance for clean cut test ?

  • @lucasgiallorati4896
    @lucasgiallorati4896 2 роки тому +1

    Do a finish blade

  • @yasirmahdiyar7729
    @yasirmahdiyar7729 Рік тому

    Which blade is the best for wood cutting Diablo or Dewalt?

  • @gusbenson1083
    @gusbenson1083 2 роки тому

    Longevity of course and always Diablo blades skill saw, sawzall, never never before and a half in saw blade

  • @steverone7623
    @steverone7623 2 роки тому +1

    I want the longevity, I have a 36 volt makita, I can only push it so hard..

  • @fu2974
    @fu2974 2 роки тому

    Hey Mr. Concord would you have a lead on where I can buy regular thick saw blades? I'm pretty sure my terminology is incorrect but I really hate the thin curf blades the big box stores sale. Also is this blade a thin curf on more a thicker blade. Love the content.

    • @TheDkbohde
      @TheDkbohde 2 роки тому

      Depends on what you plan to use it for but Forrest blades are great and will last a long time if you sharpen it. The terminology would be full kerf I believe. Diablo also makes fantastic blades for woodworking that aren’t available in the big box stores

  • @IOwnedGod
    @IOwnedGod Рік тому

    Definitely want the fastest blades.
    Longevity does matter- but not through 90 nails….
    We do not do remodel/demo work very often so this particular test isn’t that informative for my personal needs.
    How much do you pay the people using the saw? I make 45 an hour non-union right now. I’m not going to sit down and do the math- but I bet it costs more time to lose 10 seconds per cut all day than spending 40 seconds swapping out a blade once a day- or twice a week, or whatever!
    Also though- aren’t there other “demo” blades specifically designed for cutting through nails without sustaining life altering injuries?
    Pretty sure I saw them tested over on Project Farm!

  • @barttrahan7037
    @barttrahan7037 2 роки тому

    Good one

  • @ecospider5
    @ecospider5 2 роки тому +1

    Diablo is definitely keeping the industry on its toes. They have stayed at the top of the pack for blades longer than a decade. To bad people figured out that Diablo could remove your catalytic converter in under 2 minutes. And they have blades that will laugh at your $100 safe.

  • @MrCFerren
    @MrCFerren 2 роки тому +1

    I would have liked to seen a few other variables but as far as blades go I want the one that lasts the longest in the field. Speed is relatively marginal. It’s not the norm to use a circ to cut nails for me and my crew. So the blade that lasts the longest in a mostly fresh wood cutting scenario would be my choice. Ease of cut and battery effort are probably more important to many of us. As always thanks for the experiment!

    • @Dirtyharry70585
      @Dirtyharry70585 2 роки тому

      Yeah this test was more for demolition, I’m using the sawsall to zap nails or metals

  • @almerino3497
    @almerino3497 2 роки тому

    Should have threw the Bosch blade in there it’s the only one I’ve seen that has comparable carbide to the Diablo

  • @banannaninja
    @banannaninja 2 роки тому +1

    I never cut nails in my field. I like sharper blades and have most luck with dewalt blades

  • @vicchippie
    @vicchippie 2 роки тому +1

    Longevity every time.

  • @michaelwhitaker1972
    @michaelwhitaker1972 2 роки тому

    Longevity makes more sense. It would save in money and the time of changing blades.