These Circular Saw Blades HAD ME FOOLED!
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- We cut threw a lag bolt imbedded 2"X12" covered in 2 layers of flashing, shingles and a layer of 1/4" plywood with each of these blades. The reason behind this circular saw blade comparison is because one of the biggest tool companies had me fooled. We put the newest 7-1/4" circular saw blades to the test in a an head to head tool comparison. The three 7-1/4" circular saw blades compared are the Crescent NailSlicer 7-1/4-in 24-Tooth Carbide Framing Circular Saw Blade, the DEWALT Elite 7-1/4-in 24-Tooth Tungsten Carbide-tipped Steel Circular Saw Blade and the DIABLO Tracking Point 7-1/4 in. x 24-Tooth Framing Circular Saw Blade.
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Talk that talk and get them straight!!!! show it like it should when we are out in the field
Rule 1 never put your thumb an inch from a spinning worm drive saw blade like Vance did numerous times. Use the frigging handle Vinny.
14:28 😬
Gloves and rotating machinery is
a bad idea too.
@@gunthur696 😂
don't touch the blade....it's plunged in!!!, lol 😂
@@louislavoie1238can confirm. Gloves and trim router didn't really mesh well for me personally. No left index fingertip anymore. Stray thread did me in. Now, I normally never wear gloves but on this day, in the pnw it has rained so hard for so long my hands were actually pruned, couldn't grip anything and all that. Never make that mistake again. Unless handling metal shreds... No Gloves for me
So much tension in the room that only a Diablo blade could cut through it
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I'm an old carpenter went through thousands of blades. And I have to say this was the most interesting test I have ever seen!
This is why I like you guys, you saw something that you didn't think was right and recreated the test to prove they were full of it.
This is why I`m here also, why I tell everyone about VCG and Vince... No BS, just pure facts!! Never change man! Your integrity and honesty is UNmatched in the industry!!!
Thanks Mike, I appreciate that! 👍🏻
It blows my mind how they can basically make a satire showing, bashing another brands product as a large brand themselves and not expect large influences to show that they were just blowing smoke. That HAS to make an impact on their company, and tradesmans view of said companies.
For the longest time, if I had to cut something, it was a Diablo blade. Recip, circular, jigsaw, table/miter, and even angle grinders. Diablo all the way baby
The whole time they were doing this I was thinking, "but the fasteners towards the head are fatter before the threads start, so this is automatically a little off," and then you did the test again proving why you guys are awesome.
I would have used mixed threaded a and rebar to do the test.
That and some of the heads were sunk into the wood causing compression of the wood until first cut which is tougher on the saw, but as you said they went back for a better apples to apples comparison (although the diablo still outperformed the others even with the compressed wood).
I like how at that depth, the saw says "KILSAW" 😂 seems fitting.
Great test! I'm a little surprised they all made it through without too much trouble
Yeah, I'd probably file off the S If I bought one lol
exactly my thought.
I am a big fan of the Diablo and DeWalt. You should have ran all three blades a second run and possibly a third run to see which one holds up the best.. great video by the way
The Diablo blades are awesome! The first thing I do when I buy a new saw is I pair it up with a Diablo blade. This was a great test!! Well done, have an awesome night! 👍🏻
Thanks ZZ, we appreciate it! 👍🏻
Same here, put a Diablo on it and not have to worry about blades for years
Bought my first Diablo blades back a few years ago and haven't had any regrets, Diablo all the way. Good job VCG at leveling the field and showing the real deal.
No regerts
Same here. They are not the best blades on the market but I feel they are the best value for the hobbyist and part time wood worker.
I was just milling down some oak barnwood and missed a couple of nails because they were not visible and too deep for a magnet to catch and I do. It have a metal detector. I cut through those two nails like a hot knife through butter and there was no visible damage to the blade.
@@rp9674 not even one? Not even a letter?
@@CrazyManwich not eating enough Snickers.
Great name, Manwich!
Didn't even realize I was subscribed to this channel. Why is my Evil Twin There!!???
Slice & Dice, use & abuse!
Smeeesh that like button. 👀👉🏽 👍🏽
You Twin Brother definitely got all the good genes 🧬
@@VCGConstruction 😠
@@jasonbabila6006 What's up Jason!!!!!!
Hilarious Clint Guess what The Makita Gnome visited me today and my 40 volt Hammer Drill came through for me 😁
Amazing - Vince - This is the best saw blade test I have seen in resist memory.
Very Very Cool 😎 Thank you much !!!
Wow thanks Stephen, I really appreciate that!
Content like this is exactly why I joined VCG. 💫
Thanks Preacher! 👍🏻
Should of ran a rip cut in clean wood after that would tell what blade was in the best shape
Agreed!
Clean the blades and cut clean wood. I imagine all the asphalt they picked up didn't do them any favors either.
Came here to say exactly this.
Setting proper blade depth helps all these thin kerf blades from getting hot and deflecting. When framing or demo, i like the pirona blades, they are cheap and last.
This is why VCG is the best for tool reviews! Honesty goes a long way! Vince you are the man
Thanks James!
I don't know if its psychological or just comfort but everytime I slap a new Diablo blade on i know it will get the job done. Their sawzall jig and framing blade are always throwing saw dust on my work sites... great re assuring video vince.
TRZ can’t finish a sentence with Vince in the room! “DON’T TOUCH IT!” “But there’s only one way to find out!” You guys do a great job at giving us the truth when it comes to the tools we use!!
They are gonna call him stumpy if he keeps that gloved left hand on the front of saw that close to the blade.
The most random of youtube recommendations. I don't use power tools that often, and definitely don't care about what's new or cool in the tool world. But I watched this whole video, and enjoyed the level of passion these two dudes have for tools. Thanks youtube
Vince, I'm stunned. First, I can not believe the booth would stage a result that was so obviously false to carpenters and second, I'm impressed with your demo. All blades made it thru. I always buy red Diablo blades and bits and would not waste the time on others. Merry Xmas and have a happy New Year from Australia.
Do you have an opinion on the diablo speed demon spade bits? I picked up a set today and they seem very cool.
@@noahleek9696 they are GREAT! not even kidding.
@@noahleek9696 they're exactly the same as the old bosch spade bits. Best in class for sure
I’m a Diablo fan. I have one on the miter saw and one on the circular saw.
Diablo is the only one that consistently stands up to the abuse of wet lumber and extreme outdoor conditions. Of the other brands, when I purchase them (because Diablo isn't sold there or something) they have no consistency. Sometimes they do well, most of the times they don't 🤷♂️
Those Diablo blades are nice, I really like the recip blades they make. Thanks for the video, Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄
Merry Christmas to you and yours Phil!
The true test would be to see how each blade cuts after the torture test. Which one can still make a decent cut?
But why we need real world situations idc how durable it is long as it stays cutting
I agree and not look like a snake
I agree, in day-to-day life there are unforeseen events like cutting a screw or nail in the middle of the wood. But I wanted to see if the blade still makes a clean cut after that.
Project farm has a test of a number of blades and one of the tests is to see how they do after going through some nails. Diablo was the second best in how well it stood up to the abuse out of something like 10 blades.
@@ShaySaliba i’ve burnt out diablos 4 15 yrs. At least. They still do a better cut after an issue
I have used the Diablo blades for years and love them. I love being able to use them to cut radius the blade warps do to heat but once I am done with the cut I can just pick up the saw pull the trigger then the blade cools down and is nice and straight again and able to make Great cuts.
Do you think they last as long as they used to 15 years ago? It seems they are not the same, I sliced a truck bed in 2003 and didnt even know it. Now t seems if hit anything, it loses its teeth.
Try the smaller 6.5" blades for radius cuts... You wont be disappointed!
Yeah, for those who already knew the Diablo blades were better, this is not a surprise. Nice work demonstrating it! Now get you one of those fastener holders so you don't jab your finger with that bit.
Or keep your hands away and allow the screw head to initialize..
I really appreciate Vince maintaining saw safety when the saw was hot.
Been using 7-1/4" Diablo blades, 24 and 40 tooth, for many years. Every other blade I've tried created an urgency to get it off my saw.
They're the "gold" standard at their price point....IMO
I bought a Diablo for my “home saw” 6 years ago. Still in use today….about an hour use a year.
Even the job saw blades last 4-6 weeks of constant use. Of course I’m not doing anything like this! L0L
My question is do they ever wear out, our do they just get the carbides broken by nails?
@@viperstrike3827 if the carbides don't break off they'll still collect pitch and sap, and leave that burned finish on the face of your cut, after a while
@@maxnovakovics2568 Thank you for the reply! I usually break them before that point. You can clean then with dawn and a stiff brush, that helps a little.
Any blade that can make it through a cut like that has my respect, I am still going with Diablo and then if there are none on the shelves, DeWalt. I have tried a ton of no name blades but those two seem to be the top performers in my book.
Same here. I always buy Diablo when I’m at a place that stocks them, which is most everywhere, but when I’m at a place that doesn’t (Lowe’s) I buy dewalt. I’m a fan of dewalt blades because that’s what I always used until I discovered Diablo. Now I only buy red when I have the chance
Try the kobalt marathon blades, tungsten carbide teeth. I ran one on a skilsaw cutting framing lumber only for 18 months, then cut apart a 2500sq ft roof into 4x4ft squares for removal through the composite shingles and sheeting. The used the same blade to easily cut framing lumber for another 3months... for 9$
@@Natedoc808 Kobalt Marathon blades , got it . Thanks for that tip . I will try them for sure .
Love the channel brother! I'm a diy'er and rental investor so I run midgrade tools often. Ive used some Diablo blades and they are great. A price sensitive consumer option I have been impressed with is Avanti, mainly for miter saw.
Great seeing Clive with Vince!
“Don’t touch it” !!😂😂🤣🤣
Appreciate this test, watching the Stafda 2021 video & was blown away at the results. Diablo/Freud makes some pretty darn good blades that are priced very well, and watching that “test”/video….was like 😳…WHAAAAT😱. HMM…..
Nice to know that weren’t stuck in a dream world, and that the testing done there was a “different kind of test”, let’s call it😉
Thanks Guys for bringing our hopes & dreams back to reality w/ Diablo blades.
Happy Christmas to you ALL✌🏻
Awesome work Vince and whoever that other guy is.
Some real nice like tests there.
I use the Diablo carbide wood blades in my Milwaukee metal cutting circular saw. So far they seem to work just fine and a quarter of the price or less compared to the ones recommended.
I just put 8 1/4 in my Milwaukee that calls for 8. its tight. I use DeWalt mostly 12 in my 14-metal chop saw. i have a machine shop carbide is all it takes.
Vince let Clint get a word in poor bloke lol 😂
@VCGConstruction I always back the fighting chicken, el Diablo!
I enjoy seeing Clint and Vance doing tool review videos together. Lol
Vince I’m liking the joining of forces lol I started on your channel found trz though you know you guys my go to guys for all things tools and cool 😎 now ur both on the same vid Xmas has come early oh oh one thing guys I’m from uk would be nice to see some uk made products abused lmao thanks guys
I’ve seen several videos from both of you but I never knew you two knew each other! Very cool. I always get good information from both of you guys as well as a few laughs.
My Dewalt blade kept going to the right just a little bit. I switched to Diablo and it was day and night. The cut was perfectly straight and clean and really felt like butter. I was using a Ridid circular saw on 3/4" plywood with my diy saw guide. At first i thought the saw and guide did not match accurately, but the blade fixed it perfectly.
I’m so happy you guys did this. I saw the video with the Diablo blade and I just couldn’t believe that was real. We use Diablo blades to cut everything at our roofing company. And I’ve never seen anything like that
Big blue 5 tooth carbide 7¼" for cutting shingles/roofing??
Gawd!! - I found that AMAZING!! I always worry with just the odd nail so to see that result form all is incredible and the Diablo stunning. Many thanks for the vid peeps!
When you said @2:17 5/16" lag in STAINLESS ! I said no way ! I was stunned and amazed that all the blades made it through the torture testing. Stainless is hard - really hard. Try drilling holes through just 1/8" stainless bars (bring more bits).
Cobalt bits in a drill press with heavy feed and lube is the only way to get more than a few holes out of a bit in my experience
The best video I have seen in year. Thank you for showing up the SCAMMERS the demonstrate a shows.
Awesome....as usual brother 👊
Thanks Max! 👍🏻
Sounds like a passionate military survivalist reviewing tools
Great video. Had a lot of fun with this one.
Part of my business is sharpening circular saw blades. I've found the #1 killer of carbide toothed blades is abuse. Tungsten carbide is pretty amazing stuff and will cut through anything with no damage to the teeth. However, tungsten carbide is so brittle that it's susceptible to breaking when it is shocked and, more importantly in this case, when a load is applied in a direction where there is no support. Slow, steady pressure while cutting through metal will get you through just about anything but ramming the blade into nails, bolts or whatever will quickly break the teeth. Likewise, twisting the saw in the cut applies a heavy side load where the teeth are not supported by the saw plate and can cause significant damage. It seems likely that the demonstration you saw used this to damage the teeth. Another thing I've learned is that you don't have to hit metal to damage the teeth. Ramming the blade into wood on a chop saw is enough to cause damage. I have a commercial customer I sharpen for and I see that from their blades all the time. Thing is, tungsten carbide is so tough that many teeth on a blade can be damaged but it will still cut, only more poorly. The blades you used for the test likely all have broken/chipped teeth now, but will still cut because horsepower. The cut will be rougher, can have tracking issues, slower and have a lot more heat buildup. I highly recommend that no one cut through metal with their wood blades, but if you have to go slow and easy and you will minimize damage to the teeth.
Years of Team Blue buying Irwin/DeWalt blades... tried DIABLO 👿 after a recent sale and 😳 WOW!! So SMOOTH ... Made my old DeWalt corded circular saw fun to cut with again.
Is it just me that gets a really queasy anxious feeling every time e this guy puts his left hand behind the sawplate? Can't help thinking one day it'll bind and kickback straight over his thumb 😱😱
Hello again Vince and Vcg
Thank you for another Great Video. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Hello George, merry Christmas to you and yours as well my friend! 👍🏻
Great video I've used red a long time have cut 1 inch thick tar with nails and plywood new it was gone but kept on cutting only blades to own
I use nothing but Diablo blades in my cabinet shop, and though some of them are nearly 20 years old now, they still cut like their namesake! I've discovered the key to blade longevity and efficiency is cleanliness, so I periodically remove any resin buildup using cheap oven cleaner and an old toothbrush, followed by a thorough rinse in warm water.
Don't forget the silicone spray
Thanks for the honest test... I use diablo for my miter and Table saw and work with reclaimed lumber they are great blades..
Diablo has the best products hands down!!
The placement of his left thumb on the circular saw was giving me anxiety
great video! thanks for the doing the test. I was introduced to diablo blades last year and was very impressed with their saw-zaw blades. Now I think I should get diablo circular saw blades, too. The blade on my circular is getting dull and was wondering which blade would be good quality. you convinced me!
SOLD! Thank you gentlemen.
Great video with good testing! However another title for this video could be "How to hold a circular saw to maximize the possibility of losing digits!"
Safety is something that has to be a habit. When you are doing a video that will be viewed by many people,they may be influenced by unsafe behavior.
Every single carpenter who knows what they are doing cuts like that. If you don't know why he has he's left thumb on the leading edge of the foot of the saw...you shouldn't ever be using a skilsaw.
@@markjohnson4116 I understand holding the guide with the thumb - I do that myself, but curled fingers dangling down - not the best practice for long term safety.
I have had a diablo blade on a 7 1/4 saw for at least 10 years and it's still going strong will always recommend it. Thanks for the vid
Some of those blades are made of Silly Putty. It's hit or miss with any blade other than Diablo. I have used both Freud and Forrest Chopmaster and Diablo comes the closest to being a real blade.
Diablo is Freud only painted red and marketed to contractors. Also Diablo branded Freud blades tend to have thinner kerfs than the Freud branded Freud blades, which tend to be marketed towards woodworkers instead of contractors.
One of your best test videos! Thanks for the fair comparison.
Glad you liked it!
let's place our hand right beside an unguarded high speed blade.
Any blade that can go through a nail and not need to be changed muchless a lag bolt has my business.. but 30 nails & 30 lag bolts has me blown away with how far skill saw blades have come..
When Vince passed it a second time I started doing fist pumps. I knew Vince wouldn’t let us down
Honest Question - Why are you holding the saw like that?
With front hand close to the blade. Curious if I’m missing something.
Thank you!
Great video.
Those blades going through all looked like a damn Kiss concert lol. Nice video
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experience in cutting with circular saw blades is the real VIP.
One thing I would like to add that wasn’t considered. Most stainless will work harden very easily and quickly. So the first cut gets an advantage because it is softer and not exposed to heat cycling. Once the lags are cut the first time, they can get nearly 2x as hard through work hardening. So by the third cut, they are considerably harder than the first past.
Excellent point here!
NO. It will only work harden in the immediate, and I mean immediate, vicinity of the cut. A couple of millimetres away, never mind 0.5", and the stainless will be unaffected.
@Charles Hirst is right. 1/2" away won't be any harder. Work-hardening happens from deformation of the material. Not so much from the heat. When cutting stainless, you've really gotta feed the cutting tool and don't let it "rub". Going too slow through stainless is where you run into trouble. Drilling through stainless is really tough. I'm amazed these blades cut through all that stuff.
This is an excellent video. A real proper heads up comparison. I’m just a home gamer DIYer but I love your videos.
Even Project Farm showed that Diablo does a good job. It rated no 4 out of 9 blades and the top 4 had very close scores.
glad you two are working together
Excited for the new video… already know it’s gunna be a good one
Thanks Cuz!
Morning, I sawr this, good comparison here. I think steel changes with heat exposure, so not sure if it's an equal thing. I think that making a pass thru clean wood after the metal imbedded one may have show better results. been doing wood working, demo for about 35 years. I began purchasing Diablo blades back when they came out with the red color at the Home Dept. I love's. Demo cutting to finish trimming they hold up and leave great finish cutting. I'll keep purchasing the Diablo's, Thanks for the Demo!!
I wish they would make multitool blades this good
I feel like Dremel carbide is the best multi-tool blade from my personal experience
I've been a LOYAL user of Diablo Blades for over 20 years! Diablo bits you name it.... I'LL NEVER LOOK BACK at any other blade! I have yet to have one fail me, in making the perfect cut every time!
Great video guys. I tried using M18 FUEL™ 7-1/4" Rear Handle Circular Saw
Back in June-July on cutting plywood with shingles on the vents on top the saw was still working though intermittently the trigger switch would not engage the motor afterwards. I'm about to get it back now since local repair just called saying it was ready yesterday. I've been using Skilsaw SPTH77M-12 7-1/4 in. TRUEHVL Cordless Worm Drive Saw which I bought as a backup. I don't know if I want to try cutting shingles with it, with the Milwaukee they were replacing the circuitry. Which type did you use in the test?
Love these 2 guys collaborating. Hilarious to see which one plays shy guy. I have watched almost every vid on both channels multiple times.
Thanks Chevy, we appreciate it!
The 80's porn music seemed out of place until I realized there were two dudes doing a lot of drilling and screwing. Seriously, though, I have learned a lot from this channel. Keep it up and thank you
These two dudes are great together. That killsaw is the real hero here but that Diablo blade ain’t no joke! That’s why their the best. Tell crescent to stick with wrenches
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It held the reign as Mack Daddy of it’s Class for longer than any other saw ever made
Yeah there great if you got rid of vince, he waffles too much
What were you doing at the time of the burning in the last 6 inches? You stopped the forward progress of the saw to put your left hand on the waste. Similar on all 4 cuts. Just an observation. Still great video. Thanks.
I can smell the wood burning through my ipad
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That's cool a circular saw that doubles as a grinder.
Real Nass video
I love that you are using a “Kilsaw”
Those Diablo blades are liget ! I bought the sheet metal one to cut AP roofing panels and it went through like butter. At the end of each cut the blade was cool to the touch which in turn makes rust less likely from a heated blade. Awesome demonstration !👍
Thanks Paul!
Legit
Great video! I appreciate the no BS test
Awesome demonstration. Sadly there are many ways in which they could bias their tests. They could have taken new Diablo blades and ground the carbides (all it really takes is one really dull one to stall a saw cutting through something like that), and/or use techniques (such as twisting the saw) to bind the saw and look as if one blade was poorer than another. The first thing I noticed in "their" demonstration you can see the wood chunk immediate with the Diablo blade which is a good indication the sharpness had been removed and/or they plunged hard into the wood. Glad you took the time, energy, and money to make this demonstration. Thank you
When you started the saw with the Dewalt blade I thought the music was the intro to the tune “Sidewinder”. It wasn’t but, it was very similar. Kind of ironic because you’re using a worm not a sidewinder.
Great comparison, and shame on Crescent! I've been a long time fan of various Diablo cutting implements and your testing affirms my faith in them. What would be a better real world comparison between the Diablo blades and the Dewalt blades however, because a grade of carbide or tooth design that withstands nail cutting isn't necessarily best for cutting clean wood, would be to cut clean lumber until one of them demonstrated being dull. God knows that would be an incredible amount of cutting, and at the end of the day you can't go wrong with a $10 Diablo blade.
The thing I can't believe is where you placed your left hand sooooo close to the saw blade wow!!!!
That’s like a $100 block of wood/metal; good job
More! 🤣
When that bit slipped out and almost hugged your thumb I felt that 🤣
Well done fair and unbiased comparison. Thanks for taking the time to do this and help make buying decisions easier.
Unbiased ? I heard Diablo like 20 plus times before the test even started and cut #3 was the cleanest and the reason why there was that big dark mark towards the end of the cut was because the cutter held the trigger and grind the blade on a Lag Bolt while “ aligning the already cut material” he wasn’t concerned about keeping the materials all nice and neat on the other cuts. Sorry I don’t trust videos that play out like a commercial and the speaker sounds like he should be doing displays at 3:00 am and saying stuff like “But Wait there’s More!!!” and “ At 4 easy installments of $19.95 plus Shipping and Handling!! “
@@larryfleming7295 what you heard doesn’t matter. What does matter are the cuts made and the work accomplished.
@@madeddiesman-stylemonsterm6662 yelp and the first cut was NOT the best cut and your of basic intelligence if you dont pick up on the many ways of manipulation ...let me guess Trump is a racist and The Mask is the very thing that stops Complete Devastation to the World.....im just giving you shit but like your mom taught you believe NONE of what you hear and HALF of that you see..
Fingers Crossed!!!!!
Two of the coolest guys on UA-cam working together
Thanks Danny!
They need some ear pro so they can keep making content.
great video I am shocked that any of the blades made it through thanks
Great video! DIABLO is by far the leader in the cutting space. I like seeing DeWALT upping the game, but naming DIABLO and claiming 2X life just asked for videos like this. This video was perfect! I didn't even know Crescent had a blade or see the STAFDA demo, but we had a similar situation with the tapes. The demo made them look indestructible and people we just complaining that they break. Good job at being honest you guys! I know how this industry works and companies will just black list you for speaking the truth,. But is all about the consumer! Love you guys! #tiacrew
Anyone else see that the guard lever covered the "S" so every cut said "KILSAW". 🤔
Hello again Vince and Vcg
Thank you for another Great Video 👍 I got to ask. All tricks aside, how well do they remove and install screws? Especially, screws that maybe worned, painted and or corroded? Again thank you 😊