Palestinians: When was Palestine established?
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- Before Israel, there was a British Mandate, not a Palestinian state.
- Before the British Mandate
It was the Ottoman Empire, not the Palestinian State.
- Before the Ottoman Empire, there was an Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, and not a Palestinian state.
- Before the Islamic State of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was an Ayyubid empire, not a Palestinian state. Geoffrey IV of Boulogne, known as Godfrey of Bouillon, conqueror of Jerusalem in 1099
- Before the Ayyubid Empire, there was a Franc and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
- Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there were the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not the Palestinian state.
- Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine Empire, not the Palestinian state.
- Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not the Palestinian state.
- Before the Roman Empire, there was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
- Before the Hasmonean state there was a Seleucid state, not a Palestinian state.
- Before the Seleucid Empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not the Palestinian state.
- Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was a Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
- Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not the Palestinian State.
- Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not the Palestinian state.
- Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not the Palestinian state.
- Before the Kingdom of Israel, there was a theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, and not a Palestinian state.
- Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
In fact, there was everything on this piece of land EXCEPT THE PALESTINIAN STATE.
Many years ago, I put aside my religious beliefs and presuppositions to objectively educate myself on the historical context of the Israel / Palestine debate. My conclusion was that the Bible presents an accurate historical representation of the lands and peoples. There are many archaeological discoveries that continue to support the history as well. The research that you posted is eerily the same as my discoveries. Your work took some time and was presented extremely well!
What I find interesting about the whole “Palestinian” and Jewish conflict is this. The majority of people think that poof, the ancient Jewish people just came out of nowhere. Let’s set aside the fact that both Islam and Judaism claim Ibrahim or Abraham (both as per one’s perspective) as their Patriarch. And, it is a fact that both groups say that Ibrahim or Abraham was a Mesopotamian born in Ur. DNA studies have established that the “Palestinians” (before Islam) and ancient Hebrews (before Judaism) shared the same gene pool of the original Canaanites. In other words, both sects were peoples of the original Canaanites. The DNA studies of original Canaanites show evidence for the movement of people over long periods of time from the northeast of the Ancient Near East, including modern Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. Did you know that the Arabic and Hebrew language originated from the Semitic ancient Canaanites? Also, through DNA studies, the modern Lebanese share 90% of ancient Canaanite gene markers. So many times, I have received posts stating that displaced Arabs from the Sinai peninsula during the Bronze age are the root of “Palestinians.” But, DNA studies prove otherwise.
Now, let’s get to the cultural and religious timeline.. All peoples of the ancient Middle East were polytheistic until something happened in the making of future Islamists and Jews. Most people don't even think about this culture and religious split timeline.
It is said that the beginnings of Islam was established when the Prophet Muhammed received revelation from Allah and commanded him to memorize it starting in 610 AD. It is said that it took 23 years. What is strange about the Quran is this, it has an uncanny resemblance to the Torah (15th century BCE) and the New Testament (50-100 CE). The Islamic history of Jerusalem doesn’t begin until the conquest of the city by Caliph Umar in 635 (or 638) CE. Umar had been one of the prophet Muhammad's closest companions and served as his second successor (khalifa) after Abu Bakr. Umar's conquest of the city, which even the Arabs continued to refer to by its Roman name 'Iliya (Aelia), is remembered as a relatively peaceful one. The city was not actually conquered, but surrendered after negotiations, following a prolonged siege. Muslim rule over the city left the Orthodox Christian community and their buildings intact. Jews and Christians are subsequently readmitted to the city. There is no evidence, at this early point in Muslim history, that the city was already identified as the "distant sanctuary" (al masjid al-aqsa) referred to in the story of the Prophet Muhammad's ascent (al miraj).
It is said that the beginnings of Judaism was established during the Exodus, when Moses received revelations from God, who commanded him to write down the laws and rules. The five Books of Moses, which form the Torah, were written down over a 40 year period during the 15th century BCE before they crossed over into the ancient land and began the conquest of the polytheistic Canaanites.
So, as a cultural and religious society, it appears from history that the Kingdom of Judah was a thriving monotheistic group of people long before the monotheistic advent of Islam. There has always been a Jewish presence in the ancient land, and as you stated, there has never been a PALESTINIAN STATE.
Excellent!
There's no such thing as Palestine
Well, these people can just deny the history and looking for troubles
@@foreverforb Rome named the region about 2000 years ago. The Americas were named ~500 years ago. Do they not exist? That wasn't a very rational response.
Yasser Arafat did one hell of a job convincing these people they had a country once, but no one ever bothered to think this through.
didnt corey have a video asking palestinians their roots and the answers varied from Jordan,Syria ,Egypt and so on. I cant seem to find that video was it deleted. That was pure gold.
Youre only going off a religious book to support your claim to the land.
@@ResilientWon History shows a Jewish sovereignty over the land. Where does it show muslim palestininas. In fact can you point to a source confirming such a nation before 1964?
Jews have to live Palestine 🇵🇸
yes your kind stole the countries land Einstein and have kept on stealing what the hell check your delusion .
Kings David and Solomon of ancient Israel are mentioned many times in the Quraan and are highly respected in Islam, but it doesn't dawn on Palestinians that these 2 Judaic Kings who started a long line of Judaic Kings ruled from Jerusalem over a Jewish nation. The prophet Moses too is mentioned over 100 times in the Quraan, and Jesus 25 times (both of them Jews - also highly trumpeted in Islam), yet they see Jews only as recent arrivals to this disputed area.
touran ; these poor muslims don't know how to read the quoran , don't be too harsh on them , all they know is to be parrots ..............
The muslims say that Moses and King David were Muslim. Go figure how its possible when Islam came thousands of years later
I am Muslim. And I am aware of Jewish presence in the land and it being mentioned in the Qur'an
These jews are not the descendants of the original ones from Moses time.
@@akmd114379I think half or 90% of the people don’t know the difference between Judaism and Zionism. These are zionists who forced Palestinians out of there homes and land. What they did was sick and disgusting but it’s also what the west did to indigenous people. A realistic solution here isn’t going to be “give back the land that was taken” but it should be to rebuild gaza, West Bank and land in between. Have a 2 state solution and let Palestinians be free and come and go as they please and control their own electricity, water and food. But the west have their heads so far up there asses they blindly support these Zionist scum all in the sake of money, land control and power.
The open air prison in the background seems very free and jovial
Yes....still they suffering because corrupted government of their own
Palestine is the only country in the world that had never existed before it was occupied
so true.
But give credit to the Palestinians, they won the PR propaganda narrative war by a long way. The very term "Occupied" is used shows this.
At best its "disputed territory" not occupied because no borders were ever finalized post slicing up the Ottoman lands and creating Jordan, Syria & Lebanon (all arbitrary borders from the Sykes-Picot Agreement)
The ONLY country internationally voted for by large majority in the UN was Israel's.
Hence the long standing conflict with other nations - Syria didn't recognize Lebanon, Jordan was jealous of the much larger Syrian claims (but being post British colonial (and British ally) and Syria being under French - not much they could do about it)
The land prior to British Mandate was called "The vilayet of Beirut" under the Ottomans for a few centuries - and had province borders running all the way to modern day Syria and Most of Lebanon. "Palestine" doesnt even appear on Ottoman maps.
Even the "Filastina" under the Abbassid Caliphate is a small regional area (NOT a country) and no capital in Jerusalem under any Caliphate.
Prior to The Caliphates, the Land is known as Palestina prima and Palesina-Syria (under the Sassanians and Byzantines) but very far from Arab !!!!!!!!!!!! Arabs conquered and immigrated - some earlier in the 8th to 10th century. Some later such as the Druze (around 11th century)
Briefly a Christian dominated land under a crusader kingdom.
Most Arab immigration comes during the Ottoman period - partly from Ottoman improvements in infrastructure and partly following Jewish improvements to the land and living conditions (eg Ottomans rebuilt some of the cisterns and water systems, Jewish kibbuzim worked the land and vastly improved agriculture, providing Jobs for Arabs).
Of course, Palestinians coming from Phillistines is nothing but mythology.
The biblical phillistines were conquered and destroyed by Nebuchadnezzer (see the chronicles of Nebuchadnezzer - his "diary" about the pillage and conquests of Gaza, Ashdod and Ashkilon - the Phillistine territories at the time, sacked, burned and population taken as slaves to Babylon)
Phillistine record archeologically ends here - they are unheard of post Babylonian conquest. Jews on the other hand, also conquered by Nebuchadnezzer, return to rebuild Jerusalem. (allowed to return when Persians conquer Babylon under King Cyrus)
Anton Chigurh actually the Ukrainian people and Ukraine was always a thing but they never were a country before because they never held their land as one nation. It’s like Finland and technically Germany
So with that logic you could invaded (or can) syria, lebanon, jordan, irak, etc ect becaue they “never existed before”
don't understand your logic
You clearly know little about the world. You could make the same statement for 80% of the world's nations. Palestine existed as a non sovereign country- just like it's neighbors, most of Africa, most of Asia and most of Latin America.
As an outsider of the Palestine-Israeli conflict, this video is comedic gold. Watching Palestinians struggle to manufacturer a fake history is hilarious. Thank heaven for the bright women at the end who speaks honestly and intelligently about self-destructive problems of her culture. Move forward with peace, stop being violent.
LOL dude you're an absolute moron. All you're subscriptions are literally known fear mongering hate mongering islamophobe idiots and you uploaded videos of yourself going to Tump MAGA rally's. You fit the exact stereotype of a southern "Murrica" moron. I'm American and I can see that easily. You sheep are so hilariously brainwashed it blows my mind. Keep holding on to that ignorant hate young sheep. It'll do you good.
Palestine was never a country. It was an area on the map like the Sahara, the steps in Russia or the Sargasso sea in the Atlantic.
@@paulmorris909 Also its ancient and real name was JUDEA.. palastina name given by romans
Didnt the British call the area Palestine prior to the creation of Israel?@@ishkembechorba641
Correct. You'd think with the Internet, people would educate themselves before listening to one narrative. 0:22
The last woman sure has understood a lot and has come to realise what's good for her people. Like the way she says that her people should be more like the Israelis.
The lady in yellow scarf, you made me cry 😭 ❤ World needs more people like you! Hope you are safe 🙏
Sana I think her name was . She came across well informed and understanding. I liked her.
But she is worried about what she says because people like her get hunted for blindly following the movement.
In what world should someone like her be afraid to speak ?
@@nhpkm1 In the Muslim world.
SANA FOR PRESIDENT!!!
@@Seanonyoutubepresident of which country?
The last woman is amazing! Wish everyone would be like her in understanding where the problem lies.
She's got a university education, obviously. That's the difference. Education makes such a difference.
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didnt corey have a video asking palestinians their roots and the answers varied from Jordan,Syria ,Egypt and so on. I cant seem to find that video was it deleted. That was pure gold.
@@madcatter1 Yeah, I'd love a link, too.
And her red lipstick was great too.
that's insanity.
this whole conflict, which so many people were killed, injured, lost their homes and went through hell as a result of it, is a totall madness with people who claim a country for themselves but can't tell when they had it, if they ever had.
And then people want Israel to compromise with these delusionals morons!
It's beyond ridiculous!
Modern Palestine was established as a mandate of the League of Nations after WWI. At that time there were about 60,000 Jews and half a million Arabs there. Next question?
@@markaxworthy2508 What is your point? Jews originate from Judea and the British returned their homeland that was stolen from them by the Babylonians...
@@markaxworthy2508😂
@@markaxworthy2508So why did it have British Rulers?
History isn't a strong point with these people.
First the Phillistines and the Palestines are not the same people.
Second, the philistines were a greek who came to the land about 500 years after the Israeli kingdom was founded (and their name come from the hebrew word for Invaders. Polshim => Plishtim). And even tough they only conqured small region of the land, and obviously not the whole land.
then the greek came and spread 90% of the jews (which till this day no one know what happened to them) and also all of the philistines around the world.
years later the Romans conquered the land and spread most of the remaining jews all over the world. The jews that left rebeled, but failed. And to punish them, the Roman changed the name to Palastine.
For 2000 years this land wasn't populated due to lack of natural resourcces and lot of disease. Until the jews decided to come and restablish their ancient kingdom.
Boa Sandro. É o conto do vigário
Filistin is what the locals call it. Genesis 21:34: “And Abraham lived as a foreigner in Philistine country for a long time”
biblehub.com/genesis/21-34.htm
Facts either
Sandro Rodrigues if the Palestinians spend more time reading history and less time throwing rocks maybe they would have known Palestine never existed and never will .
As a Greek, the thing about the supposed island from which the Philistines came that "still has the same traditions as the Palestinians" had me dead.
Today, the Philistine people do not have their own country. The area in which they used to inhabit is what is now Israel and the Palestinian Gaza Strip. It is also worth noting that the name Palestine comes from the Romans, who renamed the area "Palestinia" in order to humiliate the Jews Prior to that it was known as Judea and before that Yehud. It is believed that the philistines originated from Greece. There are no known philistines bloodlines today. hmmm is that because they were really greeks that settled there?
@@stacey4u2luv Yes I agree with you. I was saying how the supposed island he mentioned does not exist.
"Palash" means "Invade"In Hebrew.Jews calld the Invadors from Greece simply "Invadors"-"Polshim" or 'Plishtim"in Hebrew .They lived in Gaza Strip-The Jews call that land "Pleshet"They had a lot of conflicts with the Jews in King David times and even with Eghypt that call them Palastu @@stacey4u2luv
What's your point?
@@QanunAlShah Is that all you arabs are doing now is going around making stupid posts, trying to be sarcastic these days? You know it really is not working because it makes you look like mishnoon. Are you trying to be sarcastic? Shoe bedick? Are you really looking for a point. Yulla rhuu madressa. I think you need an education. So many similar ones on here with similar looking profiles, just going around trying so desperately to look smart, but do not.
Corey: Your best video ever. If this doesn't prove that the entire concept of Palestine is based on a huge lie, then I don't know what does. Not one person could ever name one ancient "Palestinian" King, leader, nothing, before Yasir Arafat. Even the question of how it was founded and by whom is very sketchy. Thanks bro. Great job.
And Yasser Arafat was actually an Egyptian...
YUP!
They had Mohammed Amin al-Husseini. With such a short history I am surprised no one mentioned him as a past leader. Maybe the assassination of all his Palestinian opponents, alliance with Hitler and ultimate failure makes him a difficult character to embrace.
Mufti of Jerusalem? He was a leader, in a sense, but not THE leader, King, President or other figurehead.
Actually, Arafat's parents were NOT Palestinian. As we see from how these Arabs answered, they don't know the source of Palestinian. How can one not know the sources of their own people's history? They failed to answer vital questions: who founded Palestine? Answers were sketchy at best. Name ancient kings or leaders -- 0!!! Jews descend from the 12 tribes and we were sent in exile back in 70CE to Rome. Ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews migrated from Rome to Gaul (France) and Germany; ancestors of Sefardi Jews migrated up from Rome to Spain. We're back now and we're not going anywhere. Plus, ask any Israeli or Jew about our ancient kings. We'll give you detailed answers. This video proves that the entire concept of Palestine is based upon one huge lie.
Arafat “planted the seed of love”? Wow. If that’s what a seed of love looks like then I’ll pass. It looks more like perpetual violence and mass delusion.
@Abu musab Al Zarqawi In Germany, we made many experiences we the terror attacs of PLO and with the pal. refugees. When you call Rabin a murder, what is international the best attribute to Mr.Arafat
I think he said ‘love for the land of Palestine’. Not love of people.
@@dejavu666wampas9
There is no “land of Palestine”.
Unless they’re setting up a theme park.
@Auspex R which makes it the most successful ancient meme in history.
@@perdidoatlantic there was NEVER Israel.. The British set it up you chump.
How delusional are pro Israelis like you?... There are people that are older then the joke stake of Israel...
“Yasser Arafat planted the ‘Seed of Love’ in our hearts, for Palestine !!”
OMG
What that means is in 1964, Arafat founded the PLO whose Charter states its goal as the complete destruction of Israel.
Arafat was born in Cairo, Egypt.
Futhermore, the original zionist idea was and is still coexisting with the Arab population in the land, nor driving them away, in order to improve life for both groups.
@Meyer Mica Mossad never touched him when he was ill, they didn't need to as he died of natural causes.
Abu musab Al Zarqawi nothing liberating about Islam.
Meyer Mica dude thats just being old
I - an Israeli Jew - am very impressed with Sana, the lady from Nablus (Shchem) with the yellow scarf. She is very likeable, honest, brave and intelligent. If the Palestinians had more people like her - there would be hope for a peaceful resolution to this bloody conflict. I sincerely hope she hasn't gotten into any trouble and has a good life.
She's a legend. Much respect.
She's precious and must be protected at all costs!
Exactly! They should invest into education not indoctrination.
Her ancestors must have been Jews )))
Noble comment.
The lady in the restaurant at 11:59 is sincere and trying to make sense of their mess but she hesitates to speak up more loudly. She is an honest woman , I wish her the best in this one life she has.
She represents less than 1% of the Palestinian population. She is definitely top 1% in terms of education and understanding. But even she could not admit that there was a Jewish kingdom between the Canaanites and the Romans.
The name of the area was JUDEA AND SAMARIA from biblical times until 1950 , when Jordan occupied the area renaming it ''THE WEST BANK'' .
All Jews living in JUDEA AND SAMARIA where either killed or forced out of the area during Jordans illegal occupation of the area witch started in 1948 .
Judea was renamed ''Syria Palaestina'' by the Romans in attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel . This is where the term ''Palestine'' derives from .
No independent Arab or Palastinian state ever existed in the geographical area once known as ''Palestine '' .
Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab entity or nation . In fact , it has never been the capital of any other nation except Israel .
Correct!
No, the Confederacy of Philistia reigned long before the Romans.
@@QanunAlShahFilistine ? 😂
Never knew Greeks and Arabs were the same etnic 😂
The Palestinian was living in Yemen before he invaded Jerusalem. We all know this.😂
They “know” things that never were.
I’d argue the same for you
@kenperlman2... Ha! They are VERY special people! Listening to, or reading some of the illogical moose-lim "logic" makes one's head spin. Vertigo, nausea, confusion, and generalised feelings of malaise soon follow. Those blessed with a sense of humour also laugh. Lately I've been referring to this imaginary country as the "Magical Kingdom" of Palaestina-Syria. Funnily enough, someone upthread said it only exists as an idea for a theme park!
It seems very clear. “Palestine”, as the “Palestinians” recognize it today as “their” land was created the day after the indigenous people of the Israel returned in 1948.
Lol They have no idea!!
The Palestinians invented a fictitious history, The problem is that they forgot to invent details !!
@Compact Jam
mida.org.il/2014/05/19/ancient-jewish-connection-holy-land-10-major-pieces-evidence/
Included: King David's monarchy over Israel.
so do you ?
where was you during the ottoman times ?
+Avital agiv sariel
"Lol They have no idea!!
The Palestinians invented a fictitious history, The problem is that they forgot to invent details !!"
NO, you did , this is the problem;
No one denies this gap but the question is What Israel occupied if Palestine has never been established?
It fun to see how they invented their stories and see the cognitive malfunction 😂😂😂
Kinda like russia does to Ukraine, can never go before the history of 100 years ago.
Didn’t get the point? The Arabs in Israel don’t have any connection to the knanaits thy came from Arabia Syria and Egypt. So they invented their alternative history
@@ELISONICLANDSCAPE what he means is if you ask similar questions in Russia, Russians will refuse to admit that it all started with Kievan Rus (Ukraine). Asking them the right questions quickly activates the cognitive dissonance as well.
A brief history of the region:
The Jews arrived in Israel (from Egypt) circa 1200 BC.
The original Palestinians arrives in the region circa 1100 BC. They were Greeks from Macedonia, a part of the Sea People in.vasion of Egypt and the Levant. They were called the Peleset (Pelestinians), or the PhiIistines in the Bible.
The Jews were kicked out of the region, after the Great Jewish RevoIt in AD 70 and the Bar Kochba uprising in AD 130.
Much later the Arab MusIims arrived, in the 8th century AD, and they caused the greatest gen.ocide in history. Even today, there are the 800 abandoned cities in Syria, which were depopulated by the MusIims. Look up the D.ead Cities of Aleppo. So the Arab MusIims exter.minated the Greek Palestinians, and stoIe their lands and stoIe their name too.
So the modern Arab Palestinians are the last to arrive in this region, with the least claim to the land. And they des.troyed the economy of the region, which had formerly been the richest region in the Roman Empire.
Ralph.
@@RalphEllis One correction tho, people should be careful playing with the etymology of the word Palestine and its derivatives.
It is true, the term Palestine in relation to the land was coined by the Greeks and referred to the Greek people from Crete that populated the region together with the Jews and lived there for 600 years before supposedly assimilating with the Jews of the region after many wars.
During the conquests of Alexander (~200 years after the Herodotus referral to the land as Palestine), however, and later during the Roman times the land was called Judea by the Greeks and the Romans and it stayed so until the Third Jewish-Roman War (revolt that is), as a result of which the areas previously called by the Romans "the Roman Judea" and "the Roman Syria", respectively, where merged and renamed to Aelia Capitolina, sometimes referred to as Syria Palaestina . That's where the contemporary name is coming from, as it was then used by the Byzantines, Arabs, Crusaders, Ottomans and the Brits.
But even before the first Herodotus referral to the land as Palestine around 550 BC, ancient Egyptian sources referred to the land as Israel around 1200 BC, as seen on Merneptah Stele, narrating the story of the war of ancient Egyptians with ancient Libians and Israelis.
This video is pure comedy 😂😂😂😂👌❤️🇮🇱
So, no Country then for at least 3000 years. Got it.👍
There seems to be a big jump between Canaanite times and the Ottoman Empire, with a large gap in between. One can only assume national history is not covered in Palestinian curriculum. The only common thread is the lacuna between Canaan and the Ottomans.
It seems to me the Canaanites must have kept a very low profile for 3000 years, rather like the Hittites of Anatolia. Unlike the Hittites, with their capital in Hattusa (𒌷𒄩𒀜𒌅𒊭), Canaan was a collection of city states that never became a unified political entity. In this sense it is closer to the political structure of ancient Greece. Athens was the leading city state, not the capital.
As for the Canaanite language, it was essentially Hebrew, with Moabite, Ammonite and Edomite dialects. A topic best skirted.
I don't think states had flags back in ancient times.
As in Britain, where the names pre-Roman Celtic kings and queens are lost in the mists of time, so the names of Canaanite kings have been lost in popular culture. Before the Late Bronze Age collapse in the 12th century Canaan was heavily involved in the trading system of the Eastern Mediterranean so the names of a few "kings" were recorded in letters sent to contemporaneous Egypt and other Empires, though "headman" or "chief" might be more appropriate nomenclature.
I guess history is a subject best avoided in Palestinian schools since after the Canaanites came the Israelites, at first a collection of tribes, and subsequently a dual kingdoms of Israel and Judea. Extra-biblical records pick up at this point with a sole Judean kingdom with its unfortunate associations with "the Jewish invader". Hence the absence of kings. I'm surprised no one mentioned Solomon and David, names which Palestinians might be expected recognise but again tainted by their association with Jews.
+Compact Jam
That's quite a history! How come the local Arabs know nothing about it?
the term is Philistines and not Palestine. it does not refer to the entire region, from a biblical standpoint. as for Quran a textbook that appeared quite late and it's no more than a copy and pastes literature. nonetheless, I will find the term Israel in various places in the Quran but no Palestine. but go ahead and prove me wrong.
Compact Jam Speaking as a historian specializing in the Ancient Near East, you’re incorrect. “Philistine” is not an indigenous group to the Levant, and indeed not even a Semitic word, but a Greek word which might have been a pun on palaistes (“wrestlers”) - Israel traditionally has been interpreted as meaning “wrestling with God”). So the earliest use of the term Palaistinē, in Herodotus, may have been intended to refer to the “land of the wrestlers”, the Israelites, not the Philistines. Earliest mention of the Philistines comes from Egypt, where they were one of the groups of the invading Sea Peoples: Philistines in particular show culture nearly identical to Mycenaean Greece and ancient Cyprus, indicating clearly the path of their migration and gradual settlement in the coastal Levant. They were not indigenous.
And this is important to note: there is total continuity between the Canaanite and Israelite cultures. Frankly, calling them two separate things is misleading because the emergence of the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah from the greater Canaanite cultural mosaic is so direct and contiguous that the artifacts in the Late Bronze Age and Iron Age I are indistinguishable. Israelites and Canaanites are the same thing, just at two different point in time. There is no evidence linking modern Palestinians to Canaanites, but there is ample and irrefutable evidence of diverse kinds that directly proves continuity from Canaanites to Israelites to Jews. Yes, Palestinians are closely related as a group to Jews (in no small part due to historical intermarriage, conversions, etc.), but Palestinians are an Arab subgroup. They are as much native Levantines as Arabs in Morocco are indigenous Amazigh people: that is to say, there has been admixture and thus (as with most groups which colonize other places) have acquired varying degree of genetic and cultural ties to the colonized indigenous population. E.g., many white Americans can point to a certain percentage of Native American blood in their family tree, or many Spaniards have some amount of mixed Arab or Amazigh ancestry due to the centuries in which Iberia was ruled by Arabo-Maghrebi culture. Palestinian relationship to indigenous Levantines like Jews, Samaritans, Lebanese, etc., is largely along the same lines: Arabs colonized the Levant, and thus there is lingering cultural and genetic evidence of that fact. But given “indigenous” by definition means “pre-colonial people and/or culture”, Palestinians simply can’t qualify because they are Arab, both in genetic origin and in culture, and Arabs only arrived in the Levant in large numbers via the colonialism of the Rashidun Caliphate. Palestinians of course have every right to want liberty and dignity and safety in the land that they were born in, but because a native of a region (i.e., being born there) and being indigenous (i.e., one’s ethnic and cultural group was born there) is not the same thing. A white American may be a native of North America, but we would not call them “indigenous” to that land. If an otherwise white person has sufficient ties to a Native American tribe, and is committed to embracing that and integrating with Native culture, that’s all well and good. The indigenous culture of the Levant is Canaanite, thus Israelite, thus Jewish - not Arab. So if a Palestinian has indigenous roots and embraces Jewish culture instead of the colonial Arabic culture, then I would say they could identify themselves as indigenous. Just as would be the case with all other indigenous cultures that allow those not brought up in the tribe to be integrated by whatever process. This is not to say that Palestinians ought to convert to Judaism or anything silly like that: but that the only consistent way a Palestinian person could claim to be indigenous to the Levant, to Canaan, would be to embrace the indigenous culture and go through the process that the tribe has for integrating people (with or without blood ties) who have lived their lives outside of the tribe.
By all means, Palestinians should have freedom, security, and dignity. Nobody use what I’ve said as an argument that Palestinians are invalid or ought to be expelled or any inane bullshit like that. But we mustn’t let the historical reality be distorted. And a colonizing people being taught in their universities that they’re the indigenous ones and the others are “invaders”? That’s truly an unacceptable appropriation of the very concept of indigeneity, and revisionism and appropriation of the history of the land and its actual indigenous peoples. This would not be controversial if I said it in reference to any other instance of a colonial people attempting to rewrite history to claim indigenous status and erase actual indigenous peoples. But in the case of the Palestinians I’d be seen as right-wing for stating historical facts about this. So let nobody mistake that. Palestinians are as valid as anyone, with their own stories: I just wish that they would be taught about their own stories rather than indoctrinate their generations into believing false and propagandistic narratives about their own culture and history. The United States might teach a very whitewashed and often propagandistic narrative of itself as well, but at least it doesn’t (to my knowledge) teach white children a history in which white tribes lived for millennia in North America until they were brutally colonized by invading Navajo and Cherokee. It’s a special trick to be able to not only erase one’s politically-problematic history, but to also managed to pass off your political opponent’s history as your own. There are centuries of interesting history in the region that Palestinians can claim legitimately, but attempting to claim Canaanite/Israelite or even Philistine history as theirs is simply wrong.
Jemma bat-Anat Page dang! I’m a history lover and I read the entire paragraphs lol. Why no one come and refute your comment is something I’m pondering about now. Haha
@@ferenczliszt I salute your intellect! Your well reasoned and well reasoned post is very enlightening. A truly novel insight to the mess on ground.
I don't know what is more scary ,that they truly believe what they say or they know the truth and still lie.
I feel the same way about christians. At some point, every christian must decide what to do once the deep problems between doctrine and Scritpure which become clearly visible after years of study: do they drink the cool-aide and ignore the problems or walk away?
I walked away. It was the most difficult thing I ever did. I had to give up essentially my entire culture. It was either that or live in a community where everyone believed santa claus was real, in a manner of speaking. I could not live with people who valued their delusion more than truth.
The sad part is that it is perfectly normal for kids to believe in santa claus. They are victims of a well-intentioned lie. But notice, every one of them sooner or later realize the truth AND BELIEVE the TRUTH.
That is not the case with christianity. Every christian becomes a christian because they are victims of a great lie as well.
As they study and come to that horrible moment when it all starts to be PROVEN to be a lie, they are beset with peer pressure and fears of burning in hell and other techniques which cause them to willfully believe the lie.
"Faith" is one of the lies. Imagine telling an awaking child that you will be proud of them if they continue to believe in santa claus EVEN THOUGH there is great evidence it is all a lie.
Christians value "faith" because the evidence against the new testament and christian doctrine is so clear. It is like being proud that you believe the world is flat because your "faith" is so strong.
I simply could no longer live among people who thought like that.
@@elskid206 Robert, people are debating national identity and history, not religious faith. If you're an atheist, that's ok. I am too. But believing or not in the concrete reality of the Scriptures is not the same as believing or not in the concrete reality of historical facts and archaeology. Everyone can have their own faith, and they should be respected for that. But if you prefer to remain ignorant of historical facts so to support your narrative, then it's pure hypocrisy.
@@diegoleitao7341 Well so answer the questions which are asked here. Tell me the who was the first kings or leaders of "palestine" were. Who established it? Where was the capital? What archaeology are you talking about?
Did you hear what this guy said in the very beginning, "At 28 I became AWARE of palestine because of arafat. You could say HE was our leader. He planted the seed of love"
He is right. arafat INVENTED this lie.
chrisitanity, islam, santa claus, the easter bunny, palestine, they are all lies. Some of them are used to entertain children; some are used to imprison people.
Personally, I do my best not to believe lies or to participate in passing them on as best I can.
As you can see by my previous post. I walked away from my entire tradition and community because I would not participate in a lie. You should think about it yourself.
@@elskid206 Robert, you committed a number of mistakes here. Let me clarify what they were:
1. You can leave your religion, but you cannot entirely leave your tradition and community, unless beside stop believing you went to live in another country which had nothing to do with your native one. Tradition is not abandoned simply by deciding not to believe in a religion. If you live somewhere in the Western World there is no way you don't participate in Judeo-Christian values and moral principles.
2. There is no answer to any of the questions you formulated, because Palestine as a nation didn't exist. There is no proof whatsoever, neither written nor material, that Palestine was even an idea of a country prior to mid-20th century. On the other hand, can you prove that God doesn't exist? Can you prove that Christianity was a made up lie to enslave people's minds? I think not. It is very disingenuous of you to compare believing in a political narrative that can be simply disproven by historical facts with believing in a religion and following its principles. One has nothing to do with the other.
3. If you think religion only serves evil, that's your view mate, but you cannot back it up. Many different people have many different reasons to believe or not in something, and if you cannot prove them wrong, you should not be so sure you're right.
4. Again, I'm an atheist too, mate, but I don't want a cake for that.
@@diegoleitao7341 YOU: "you cannot entirely leave your tradition and community"
Of course, you can. I stopped observing all the holidays, all my ties with friends and neighbors fell apart. I was essentially a man without a team. I left one tribe but had nowhere to go. It was VERY lonely 4 or 5 years.
YOU: "because Palestine as a nation didn't exist."
Thanks that is my point. Thanks for admitting it. CASE CLOSED
The last woman is insanely profound in her way of thinking. I respect her so much. Well said, and great video Corey
She was intelligent and her use of english proves that.
Absolutely, she is an inspiration to all Palestinians and Israelis alike. What a wonderful and beautiful woman. She'll make a grand wife for any man wise enough to love her.
Yes, Sana from Nablus spoke very well it’s a shame that we still couldn’t be further from her truth 3 years on.
A great and intelligent woman. Too bad she couldn't really express her opinions because of her fear of the other "peaceful" Palestinians who would kill her.
The only intelligent think about her that she agrees. The Palestine was never a state.
Isn't it amazing how they hold such strong opinions over facts they can barely grasp.
It seems that there is great deal of confusion among modern Palestinians. They’re not really sure who they are and where they came from as people. And this is really the gist of the conflict with Israel. Because Israelis have much clearer and tighter national narrative that allows for much greater cohesion and national mobilization over a long period of time.
Narrative vs. history.
They are defined only by what they oppose...
I'll tell you where they came from, other territories from the ottomon empire and others outside from the arab world. The arabs like to forget their history while calling you a devil. Yet they call Israeli's the settlers and themselves the indigenous while too many kingdoms and rulers came before them.
You've summed it up nicely..
Israel have a much tighter and national narrative ...
And that's exactly all it is A Narrative that nobody outside the State of Israel believe
The last woman interviewed hit the nail on the head! Even though she had to measure her words when she was criticizing Palestine and Palestinian ‘ leaders’!
If only she would represent her people!!!!
Sana for president!!!!
@@Seanonyoutubeimpossible. Her opinion is in overwhelming minority among palestiniabs, they will never choose such a leader. Majority wants to be represented by Hamas according to sociology
@@viktorialvov I know, but one can still dream…
@@Seanonyoutube yes, me too. Probably in 3 or 4 generations there wiik be changes towards less radicalization. But now no way .
There has never been a country called Palestine. Repeat: There has never been a country called Palestine. Palestine is a geographical term -- not a political one. Should anyone gainsay my assertion, I challenge you to name one of its kings.
Deciduous Horn it was an administrative name for the Romanian empire. Julius Cesar wanted to erase Israel from his maps and from history. He did very good job. And here we are 2000 years later.
Name one king that lived in and Ruled the US.
@@tatsumakimojo5502 omg finally someone that knows history
@@Samlaren us was never a kingdom
@ Never "A" Kingdom, but part of many.
The last woman was amazing. She was so on point and thoughtful insightful. I hope she is safe and well considering everything that is going on. That is the type of person that can move her people forward.
Pity she is not the leader of the Palestinian people
But palestinian people in will never elect such person as her as a leader, they prefer violence. At some point she was even afraid to speak
@redrev67 and she never will. Women are not allowed to hold positions of power in the quran.
@@LayUp01 stay in the Middle Ages. There are no successful societies that deny full rights to half their citizens.
I feel bad about laughing at them, I more feel sorry for them. It's beyond insanely ridiculous.
I also feel this way. When they fantasize like this they make it virtually impossible to make peace with Israeli Jews and thus they hang themselves in the air for indefinite amount of time. That's too bad.
I don't feel bad at all you can't save people this stupid. But you can have a good laugh at them trying to put there feet in there mouth.
Zionist corey has carefully picked ignorant people
@@abuantar2801 interesting comment. How do you know?
interestingyoutubechannel I’m sorry that not all people get fed lies and get a good education.
What the last woman was trying to say "People must move forward, not backwards" 👍
It is funny that he asked these specific and basic questions and no one knew. How embarassing!
This is because there was never a county with a flag, king, capital or currency called ''Palestine'.
Yasser Arafat popularised the identity for Arabs living in Israel for political purposes in the 1960s. Parents then taught their children this also, which is part of the problem.
Ignorant... Long live Jerusalem Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🙏
@@daniellakhoury3579 when you don’t have a proper response, so you just yell Palestine praises. This is the culmination of brainwashing. When others are you there side, they give numbers, fax, figures, statistics. When Palestinians are backed into a corner, they just yell insults and Long live Palestine. This is why most Arab countries don’t care anymore. They’re tired of the delusions. They’re moving on without Palestinians.
@@NetanelWorthy another ignorant, or should I say💁♀️ antisemitic
🙏🇵🇸❤️Greetings from my homeland Jerusalem palestine
When we and our ancestors who lived thousands of years in this holy land palestine.. Of course there would be no accurate date.. But I can tell you easily and simply that Israel wasn't known to the world until the day they occupied our country 1948 so its easy to know their establishment date in our holy land.. Long live Palestine and it's eternal capital Jerusalem my home land 🇵🇸🇵🇸❤️🙏
There was no country in ancient times in the first place, let alone flags. Have you seen “Corey’s question to Israelis: “if ancient Romans wanted their land back?” Same reaction as the Palestinians. Here is what you would love: the Palestinians stole your country when you were out to bring some bread lol
Never seen people struggle so much to make up lies. Its honestly very sad
That last lady in the yellow scarf... wow! She is the first Palestinian woman in your videos who seems like she actually thinks for herself for once unlike the usual parrots who speak propaganda. I would vote for her as Palestinian leader if the West Bank becomes Palestinian state. Many Arab Muslim women are afraid to speak their minds let alone the truth.
Guessing, guessing and more guessing. Everyone has a guess. . Sana from Nablus is closest to the answers. Love her honesty.
Actually everybody is not guessing, they just dont know. And i dont think there were an answer for that. From my perspective. The palestinans just looks like a native community rather than a nation. They dont had a leader. They dont have a state. They dont have a flag.. They just live there for their entire life. And even after many outside force had conquer their land, the romans, the ottoman, they just go with it, as long as the outside force to dont exile them or removed them from their land or disturb their ways of life, they cool with it.
Just like the native american, they just there. As long as you dont disturb them, they good with it.
Im from malaysia, and here there are many native groups of people. And i think the palestinians are just like them. They dont really care, as long as you dont disturb their way of life or their land. Eventhough their land is considered as in malaysia in the map, but the authority would always need to consult with them first if they need to transfer them or something like that. And they would propably would be demands a lot of things, but like i said, they dont really care about the politics or the world. They just want to live their life as they had for a very long time. And i think all malaysians would agree with it. So nobody would try to disturb them. Eventhough if we really want to, we could just go and take their land by force, but they dont actually poses any threat to others community or the country security so i think the best option is just to let them be.
And their ways of life become troublesome after the fall of ottoman empire. Because after that, they just become a community without a country. And back then, its maybe okay. But right now, anybody could claim to that land because there were not under any flag, not the romans, not the byzantine, not the turks. So thats propably the reason the community become aware that they need a country, because they know for sure, if they dont have one. Anyone can come and do whatever they want. Thats the reason arafat suddenly came into power. Since they need somebody.
But that just my opinions.
@@Mienomithree I respect your opinion, I am neither pro-israel nor pro-palestine since I think that this conflict is way too complicated to take a side. Nonetheless, history is history, and whenever they talk about the land of Canaan arabs were not involved. Most of today Palestinians, such as other arabs, originally came from Saudi Arabia and then moved around all the middle-east, north africa and, for sometimes, europe (spain and sicily). Before islam arabs and palestinians have never been in the levant.
@@Mienomithree The native americans know their history in the land. THey know their leaders from the land. They know their language and their cultures and stories in the land. If Palestinians are "canaanite" but know nothing about the ancient canaanite...are they really?
Why are they so afraid to admit that Palestine didn't exist until 1964 when it was invented by Yasser Arafat? It doesn't mean they don't have an identity. It's just not an ancient one. It's like they have to pretend to have an ancient identity to compete with the Jews, to prove they have a bigger claim, but we dont see it that way. It's not about who has the bigger claim, we can share the land!
@@trollnerd
Because they try to claim historical ownership.
Wow can these people lie
sure you need learn history about muslims
+Compact Jam
Please elaborate with all of us, what do the Zionists lie about??? They at least have a very well documented history in that region and tons of archaeological sites to support their facts!!! What do the "Palestinians" have??? Please enlighten us!
Wisest words Ive heard on the recent issues were from that last woman. I hope she stays safe.
as in Israeli I hope she becomes president of a future Palestinian state!!! heck I wouldn’t mind if she was president of Israel
You can tell that most of them are just making things up as they go
You know that feeling when you talking to somebody and you start lying and they pretend to believe you??
They dont! :D
@سيدMohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebrel Dawud Looks like you’re the one that needs the education. You’ve got that backwards
@سيدMohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebrel Dawud my guy, the kingdom of Israel is older than your religon
@Mohamed Syed Ahmar AbdAllah Yared Jebrel Dawud wow man, you should definitely take some chill pills...
Yup. A brief history of the region:
The Jews arrived in Israel (from Egypt) circa 1200 BC.
The original Palestinians arrives in the region circa 1100 BC. They were Greeks from Macedonia, a part of the Sea People in.vasion of Egypt and the Levant. They were called the Peleset (Pelestinians), or the PhiIistines in the Bible.
The Jews were kicked out of the region, after the Great Jewish RevoIt in AD 70 and the Bar Kochba uprising in AD 130.
Much later the Arab MusIims arrived, in the 8th century AD, and they caused the greatest gen.ocide in history. Even today, there are the 800 abandoned cities in Syria, which were depopulated by the MusIims. Look up the D.ead Cities of Aleppo. So the Arab MusIims exter.minated the Greek Palestinians, and stoIe their lands and stoIe their name too.
So the modern Arab Palestinians are the last to arrive in this region, with the least claim to the land. And they des.troyed the economy of the region, which had formerly been the richest region in the Roman Empire.
Ralph.
They have trouble answering their own false narrative about their non existing State .
non existing hhhhh ridiculous comment ; so why there is a conflict ?
@@hamzaabou4821 This is not the point he made. There was not such country or state as Palestine. The land used to be controlled by the British, divided in 1948 per the UN decision and that's when the war against Israel started, initially during the war of Independence, where all the 3 Arab countries attacked Israel, then in 1967 and then again in 1973. And what is called the West Bank was the West Bank of Jordan. It was a land occupied by the Kingdom of Jordan between 1948 and 1967. Jordan, interestingly, did not try to establish the Palestinian state during that occupation and does not offer any benefits or citizenship to those Palestinians who would like to go or settle in Jordan. Unlike the Jewish State, that has become a refugee for any Jew in the world who wants to come - including over 850,000 Jews expelled form the Arab countries in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. And over 1 million Jews who arrived from the Former Soviet Union. So the person above was completely correct - there was never a state called Palestine, they did not have their own currency, and the term "Palestinian" first appeared in the 20th century. Initially, it was actually referring to the Jews living in this area. The others were called Arabs and later Palestinian Arabs. I highly recommend to listen to the lectures of Professor Mordechai Kedar. Many of them are available on UA-cam. He talks in great detail about this topic and the history of this land.
@@leonardnyc12 There are plenty of coins of Palestine during the british occupation !
Lol you people carved Israel’s out of your imaginations
@@leonardnyc12 lets imagine that israelis came to a desert where noone lived in and forget that many aplestineans were drived out of their homes
Palestinians are called Palestinians just because of Zionism,
if you referred to an Arab from Judea as a palestinian before the 60's he would have considered this as a curse.
they say that Arafat is their great leader but he was from Tunisia. (not a Palestinian)
they have at least 3 different dialects just inside Israel.
the only thing that binds them together is their hate for the jews and israel.
I believe Arafat was born in Egypt.
Palestine was established in 1949 and is called UNRWA.
The last women is very wise. I hope she's still alive
Yes. May God raise up more sensible sober-minded people like her in the so-called Palestinian Territories.
@@ndnrb_ Palestinian essentially just refers to non-Jewish Arabic speakers in the West Bank and Gaza. There are people who are just Arabian transplants, and there are others who are mixed raced Arabic-speakers who could be made up of anything that ever settled in the land.
@@andrewtang5761 Most Palestinians contain at least 85-95% Levant DNA visible since the Bronze Age. With the Christians toward the higher end.
Depends on the sample I guess. The Bedouin Arab settlers that all the propaganda call Palestinians are Arabs.
@@ndnrb_ Depends on the sample I guess. Maybe certain villages have not been influenced much by Arab settlers or settlement by non-Jewish Arabic speakers from all over the Arabic-speaking world. Even in the past 200 years alone, there has been significant Arab settlement or non-Jewish Arab settlement in the region. What we call the so-called Palestinian territories, are very arbitrary borders made up after the 1948 war, or if you even want to consider all the non-Jewish Arabic speakers of the former British colony the British called Palestine.
That is still an arbitrary land, where people moved into before the British came and drew their lines in the sand. It is ridiculous to say the least to pretend that the non-Jewish Arabic-speakers have been living in that arbitrary land for a long time. Maybe some people have. Others have not and just happen to live there. It is like saying "Floridian people" have lived in Florida for a long time. No. They have not. Maybe some have been for several generations. Others came only recently.
The capital exists in our hearts? That's it, class is done. It's a wrap.
😂😂😂
@@Petal4822 racist colonial settlers. You’ll see…..feel the burn 🔥 of hell!
@@sks6374 Do they not educate you, or is it they wish for you to be so ignorant of facts...sad
This was the genuine, raw truth. I know where Corey is trying to go with this.
Yes, it is true that the Jewish was born in Israel. As was it's civilization, kingdom, the two temples, the prophets, sages and Rabbi's.
But, the people who were inhabiting the land before 1948 are also indigenous people. Simply put, they were there. Their parents were there, and their parents before them.
I hope and pray one day there will be peace. Both peoples need to acknowledge that they have natural rights to a peaceful, normal life in the holy land.
We should be in brotherhood with one another. Best of friends. We should be dating each other, having children and becoming a big extended family.
I watch these videos and 90% of the Druze, Christians, Muslims, Samarians, Syrians, Ashkenazim, Sephardim, and Ethiopians just want to live meaningful lives. You can hear how everyone has a deep-seated bitterness because of violence on all sides. But, we cannot change history.
That said, we are all sharing this present moment. And we all have agency. We can always work together for peace.
I don't think Israel can be a Binational state. But, I think it could have a Binational state if there was an independent and sovereign Palestinian state. If the Palestinians had their own independent and sovereign state Israel could work in partnership with it. Eventually, the two countries could choose to unify.
The conflict must end.
😂😂😂😂👍
No wonder they can't name any Palestinian king... Unfortunately the Jews could name dozens...
Doesn't make them any truer than the Palestinian gobblygook
It's incredible that people like the last lady exist amongst the Palestinian population and the system prevents anyone from hearing about them. It's so sad that leaders are determined to keep their populations backward and in the dark in order that they can pursue their own agenda at all cost. God bless Israel. Even the Arabs and Muslims in Israel are happy that they are
I love how they keep saying Canaan, totally ignoring the historical jewish past.
Do you mean just like how European Ashkenazi Jews mysteriously forget how they came from Khazaria.
Jewish, Christian and Muslim Palestinians lived there for centuries together before the European colonisers came
@@lespaul2000 the jewish torah was written before the establishment of christianity and islam
lespaul2000 The Thirteenth Tribe is a 1976 book by Arthur Koestler, in which the author advances the thesis that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the historical Israelites of antiquity, but from Khazars, a Turkic people. Ashkenazi Jews' DNA have connections with the Mizrah & Sephardi Jews. You are WRONG, again.
@@ohadf7751 Islam wasn't established 1400 years ago it was here since the beginning of time
Because it's false our prophet Ibrahim used to live in canan
8:22 Palestinian currency and passport is actually the British one, and it says "land of Israel" in Hebrew, showing that "Palestine" is the same as "Land of Israel". Not some establishment of a country/state.
but it is a recognized state tf r u on. The ancient 'land of israel' and the modern state of israel r two different things.
@@aaa-kw4gt I didn't say that land=country.
I said that "Palestine"="Land of Israel", just as you can see on currency and passports back at the time.
That's why many Jewish organizations had "Palestine" in the name back then, yet Arabs were just called Arabs or Palestinian Arabs, just as there were Palestinian Jews.
Everyone that lived in the mandate back then was called "Palestinian".
You can see that in the Peel commission that it was offered to Arabs and Jews, not to Palestinians and Jews.
It will break their brains when they learn that the evil Zionists were the original Palestinians.
@@aaa-kw4gt Palestine was NEVER a recognized state
Do people living in subordinate territories or suzerainties ever treated fairly?
I think this video sums up the conflict
Filistin is what the locals call it. Genesis 21:34: “And Abraham lived as a foreigner in Philistine country for a long time”
biblehub.com/genesis/21-34.htm
Don't ask simple people who do not go to schools and are not educated bc of violence and occupation.
@@markmcelroy1872 thats all you know about Palestine, pretty sad really. a bit of research for some education.
@@TheJerusalemite why do you lie?
TheJerusalemite philistine is completely different to Israel
The woman in the yellow scarf is my hero. Its amazing she understands what millions all over the world are now failing to understand. There can be peace with people like her. Pity its such a small minority.
Well said
Hope she is doing well
I have watched nearly episode, including this one before. Sana has made the most objective and insightful comments of anybody.
The last lady is a good thinker .wish all Palestinians were like her
+King of Mesopotamia
What truth? That there are some well-informed and questioning Palestinians?
I hope we'll see her again in future videos.
@@marksimons8861 what truth ???
That lady was enterwied in other vídeo, asked abouy her thoughts of queers for Palestine. She said she thinks that is great.
This woman is lovely. We should all aspire to be as thoughtful and even as she is.
Clearly. Her thoughts outstripped her English. And her English is better than my Arabic.
Lol The state has never been established and never will be established
the girl at the end, sana from nablus - GOLD 😍 what a smart, gentle, and logical woman. i want to sit with her and talk for hours! she said things in such a simple way. i wish more ppl from there will get it as well as her. thank you for those videos!
One correct answer detected at 7:09. Yes the ancient currency of native people in the land was called "Shekel" It was the currency of ancient Israel and Judah.
Shaikel was the currancy of Cannanites first jews stole it from them
@@khalilturjman2010 Jews are a derivative culture of Canaanites so they didn't exactly steal it, they inherited it from the culture the broke off from
Tomislavv2 Im sad that these Arab are living in a nationalist fantasy, leading them nowhere but to pain and death.
@@zavtradnem who told you I am a Muslim?
@@khalilturjman2010 your first name and your "thinking"
The country named "Palestine" never existed...
Eugene Karaoglu you are wasting your energy . Arabs are stuck in their own lies.
*This video is the golden egg. This is the highlight of your entire project, Corey.*
@سید Mohammed Ahmar A. Ishāq Ibrahmān
So answer the damn question in stead of blubbering "propaganda propaganda"
@سید Mohammed Ahmar A. Ishāq Ibrahmān
The very question of the video of course
@Syed Mohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebreel Dawud
Bnei Israel were Jewish.
Cnaanites were not "palesitnian" or arab or muslim. Completely different people.
They were pagans who worshipped statues of goats, and spoke a different language --- what do they have to do with anything?
Bnei israel spoke Aramic and Hebrew.
They were jewish.
@@Klayhamn The ancient Israelites were a subset of Canaanites. Come on man!
Modern Palestine was established as a mandate of the League of Nations after WWI. At that time there were about 60,000 Jews and half a million Arabs there. Next question?
I find it fascinating (and sad) how the answers vary so much and are so inconsistent with one another which is a clear indication that there is something wrong here. My only hope is that by asking these questions, it sparks a curiosity in these people to research their history all the way to the truth of the matter. I wonder, after the current events, what is the last lady's point of view on this war....
Because there is no Palestine or Palestinian identity. Its a made up identity in response to Zionism. These modern day Palestinians are just arabs. They were immigrants from neighboring countries.
She did say "If we use violence it will only bring more violence"...
"Palestine" has never been the name of a country. When the word has been used, it has referred to a region. The geographical boundaries have varied over time.
The word "Palestine" was first used to refer to a small strip of land in present-day Israel that was inhabited by a non-Semitic, non-Arab people who originated from the Aegean Sea area. They were called “Philistines” by the Greeks, from which the word "Palestine" was derived.
Later, when the Middle East was part of the Roman Empire, present-day Israel and the West Bank were a region called “Syria Palaestina” in the Roman province of Syria.
At some later point in time, some people broadened the meaning of the word and called all of Israel, the West Bank, and parts of Lebanon and Syria, "Palestine".
For the 400 years prior to WW1, “Palestine” defined this broadly was part of Syria, which was a province in the Ottoman empire.
For part of the time between WWI and WWII, what is present-day Israel and the West Bank were part of Jordan.
What the inhabitants called themselves is a different issue, of course. My guess is that for much of this time, people identified with the tribe, ethnic group they were a member of, or the town they were from.
didnt corey have a video asking palestinians their roots and the answers varied from Jordan,Syria ,Egypt and so on. I cant seem to find that video was it deleted. That was pure gold.
So? Modern Palestine was established as a mandate of the League of Nations after WWI. At that time there were about 60,000 Jews and half a million Arabs there. Next question?
@@markaxworthy2508 Could the arabs give away the territory even if they wanted to without answering to anyone above them? Could the jews have?
@@mrfrankie5479 What does that mean?
@madcatter1 They were BEDOUINS. Dr. BAHAR And Dr. OSTRER two Gentic Experts proved it by their DNA. JEWs and some Arab speaking ISRAELI Have the orginal Cannaanites DNA. Jews have Cannaanite DNA WITH an Ancient gene Called the Cohan Gene.
This is one your BEST subjects, Kol Ha Kavod!
I, actually, feel very sorry for these people who are caught in the perpetual selfish and unjustified ambitions of their own people, starting with Imam Amin Al-Husseini in the last century.
They live in a made up, non-existent schizophrenic world that they have created for themselves and they call it PALESTINE. A major identity problem.
I call them "Renegate Arabs". That's all they are!
They no longer belong to Israel; they are a different culture. Jordan was part of "Mandate of Palestine", maybe they belong there? They were certainly implanted by the Ottoman Sultan Abdulhamid to offset the Jewish population.
In any case, the concept of "Palestinian People" is just another manipulation by political Islam against Jews.
British called it mandate of Palestine
they didn’t create it. there were very particular people who did this for and to them: Yasser Arafat and Soviet KGB.
they created this Palestinian narrative in 1964.
a nation that they don't know their nation!
The last Palestinian almost made me cry, she is so wonderful, she said that it is time for Palestine to move on from the Stone age.
She was amazing, when she spoke about stone she was referring to days of throwing stones and shooting bullets and not the Stone Age
It hasn't been established yet because it is not a country...
Abu musab Al Zarqawi Mashallah Qaid Zarqawi
Prior to the Arab invasion of the Levant in the 7th century Arabic was not spoken here. A good question might be what languages did your ancestors speak before that time.
+Compact Jam
Strange that. It raises the question of what point in time the local folk transferred to becoming speakers of Arabic, or at the very least the Palestinian dialect.
"Compact Jam" sez:
_do you think it negates their right to collective right to self determination guaranteed under UNGA resolution 181?_
UNGA 1981 was a proposal for the partition of the British Mandater of Palestine into a Jewish state and an Arab state, not something that guaranteed a "right to collective self determination". Ther concept of self-determeination is a moral principle which the Palestinian Jews and the Palestinian Arabs were both entitled to 70-odd years ago, but not a right enshrined in that particular General Assembly resolution. It is worthwhile to note that the Palestinian Jews of the time accepted UNGA and the Palestinian Arabs did not. (The Jews residing in the country in November 1947 were properly known as "Palestinians" at the time ,whether they were natives of the country like my father's family or relative newcomers like my mother's family if they had Palestinian residency or citizenship under the British.) Now, I don't claim that the failure of the leadership of the non-Jewish Arabic-speaking community in British Mandate Palestine to accept UNGA 181 forever invalidates their right to self-determination in a new state entity, but the partition borders (and even the Armistice Line borders that existed between 1949-1967) have long since become null and void. Since the Arabic-speaking non-Jews who have adopted a Palestinian national identity are the weaker side and will never displace the Jewish state in Israel, it is their interest to accept the generous proposal that Israel is prepared to offer them when it comes to any future borders and give up on fantasies like a "right of return (LOL!)."
I really loved the lady at the end. She was refreshing. I have been to Israel. I am a Jew. It is beautiful to see some life and forward thinking. True shalom is the only way forward. No more killing. 🙏❤️
Look at Palestinians in a positive light. Think of all those great inventions they brought to the world. If you think of one, let me know.
That was embrasing
It said everything about who never had this land
@Ofri Kalif what if we ask the Jewish about the establishment of the country they call Israel, the answer I know is when the hagana gangs occupied Palestine.
@@NasserAlghazali well, history didn't started in the seventh century.
Do you know when was palestine established?
@Ofri Kalif lol do I have to know the answer ? well, it is none of my concern ,same as the establishment of Germany or Nicaragua.
@@NasserAlghazali if you don't know, meaning that can't say that there is a Ccountry called palestine, how can you say that the hagana occupied it?
This is bloody sad. They have no idea.
U can't have some knowledge and information about something that never existed
@@amitkaplan4327 sad
@@amitkaplan4327 Are you sure? Why do I know so much about Israel then?
@@baldwinthefourth4098 cus israel and juda are 2 historical teritorial kindomes in thise land and palestain is not -never existed !palestain was a rigen off the otoman ampayer and the capital was ramala -sory for the bad spaling
@@nirprizant4228 Sorry for bad what? Spelling?
*---* *THE FACTS ABOUT THE PALESTINIANS* *---*
There has never been such a country called Palestine. Israel was re-formed on land previously ruled by the Ottoman empire, similarly to other countries in the region such as Lebanon, Iraq and others. There is no such thing as "Palestinian people". It's worth noting that newspapers such as the 'Palestine post' were Jewish newspapers (this one for example turned into the 'Jerusalem post'). This is also true about other official "Palestine" related stuff from the time before Israel was re-formed. Hebrews were the majority in Jerusalem even before the birth of the Zionist movement in the 19th century. If someone happened to use the term "Palestine" before the re-formation of Israel, he was referring to the homeland of the Jevvs (the land of Israel) - not the Arabs. It's worth noting that the flag of the "Palestinian Authority" is the flag of Hejaz.
The British Mandate over the land, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, actually included also what is now Jordan (which includes the "east bank" - part of historic Israel), and according to the League of Nations (precursor of the UN), this Mandate was to become a national homeland for the Jevvs (the Arabs would get their own independent lands in all the rest of the greater middle-east, an area which makes the land of Israel insignificant in comparison). Note that according to the UN's constitution, all the past resolutions of the League of Nation are valid.
The British Authorities, due to their own interests with the Arabs (among others - future oil dealings), gave them 77% of the land - which later became what is now Jordan. There are over 20 Arab countries, and almost 60 lsIamic countries - each on average way bigger than Israel, but the Arabs couldn't tolerate the existence of tiny Israel, even after being given most of the land of the mandate. Instead, they tried to annihilate it by force with the Arab armies the moment it was officially independent (and have attempted to do so several times again since then).
The coIoniaI term "Palestine" was discarded after it was brought to life under the British rule, as it should have been, because the original name for the land - Israel, has been restored (Israel is not Palestine, just like Jerusalem is not Aelia-Capitolina, and Schehem is not Nablus).
It is only in the mid 1960's that the Arabs hijacked the term, and its widespread usage only took off after the 1967 Arab-Israeli war. the Arabs used this terminology as a political propaganda tool to de-legitimize Israel, after they failed to steal the Hebrew homeland by force with the Arab armies, by invading and attempting to conquer the land. Ironically, the term "Palestinian" originate from the term 'Pleshet' to describe INVADERS by the Hebrews. Those who willingly identify as "Palestinians" are declaring themselves to be invaders/colonizers in Hebrew land.
It's important to note that this propaganda tool was supported by the Communists/Soviets. On the other hand, just a few decades before that, the Arab "Palestinians" were hand in hand with the Nazis. They have aided them under the leadership of the mufti Amin Al-Husseini - who is often regarded as the 'founding father' of the Arab "Palestinians". During WW2 he became an SS general, but he had anti-Jewish genocidal ideology long before the Nazis rose the power. He has incited and caused violence and terror against the Jewish people in their homeland since the early 1920's (for example: 1929 Hebron massacre).
"Palestinians" are nothing more than bands of foreign invaders, squatters and illegal immigrants from all over the Islamic world - mostly the Arab world (some of them even originating from places that are not part of the middle-east, such as Bosnia), as well as several other places. The overwhelming majority of them first settled in the land of Israel in recent centuries - mostly in the 19th and 20th centuries. Some of them even came to Gaza, Judea and Samaria from Egypt and Jordan while these areas were under Egyptian and Jordanian occupation in the period between 1948 to 1967.
Informative quotes from Arab "Palestinian" leaders:
"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' was invented by the Zionists. There is no Palestine in the bible ...Palestine is ALIEN to us" - Arab "Palestinian" leader Awni Abdul Hadi, Peel Commission, 1937.
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity... Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity exists only for tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." - Arab "Palestinian" leader & PLO member Zuheir Mohsen, 1977.
"I don’t think there is 'Palestinian People', I don’t think there is a 'Palestinian Nation' at all… 'Palestinian Nation'? I think that is a colonial invention. When were there ever 'Palestinians'?" - Arab "Palestinian" leader Azme Bishara, TV Interview.
"We all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, Yemen or anywhere else." "... Half the Palestinians are (Arab) Egyptians and the other half are (Arab) Saudis" - Arab "Palestinian" Hamas minister Fathi Hammad, 2012.
Here are some common "Palestinian" families and their place of origin:
Saudi, Al-Husseini, Al-Hassan, Hijazi, Tamimi, Erekat, Barghouti, Qureshi, Badawi - Saudi Arabia
Yamani, Azad - Yemen
Haddadins - Yemen (Ghassanids)
Masri, Masrawa, Tartir, Bardawil, Fayumi - Egypt
Abu Kishk, Shakirat, Zabidat, Aramsha, Abu Sitta, Abu Sutta, Shaalan - Egypt (Bedouins)
Turki, Sultan, Uthuman - Turkey
Iraqi, Baghdadi, Faruqi, Tachriti, Zoabi, Abbas - Iraq
Nashashibi, Hurani, Allawi, Halabi - Syria
Lubnani, Tarabulsi, Sidawi, Surani - Lebanon
Bushnak - Bosnia
Khamis - Bahrain
Afghani - Afghanistan
Mughrabi - Maghreb
Araj - Morocco
Djazair - Algeria
Kurd - Kurdistan
Hindi - Indian Subcontinent
Abid - Sudan
Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the PLO terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat Al-Qudwa Al-Husseini.
Yasser Arafat also proudly stated in his authorized biography that: "If there is any such thing as a Palestinian people, it is I, Yasser Arafat, who created them."
Genetic data for "Palestinians":
According to a 2010 study by Behar et al. Palestinians tested clustered genetically close to Bedouins, Jordanians and Saudi Arabians which was described as "consistent with a common origin in the Arabian Peninsula".
A study found that the Palestinians, have what appears to be Female-Mediated gene flow in the form of Maternal DNA Haplogroups from Sub-Saharan Africa. Palestinian individuals tested, carried maternal haplogroups that originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The explanation for the presence of predominantly female lineages of African origin in these areas is that they trace back to women brought from Africa as part of the Arab slave trade, assimilated into the areas under Arab rule.
In a genetic study of Y-chromosomal STRs in two populations from Israel and the Palestinian Authority Area: Christian and Muslim Palestinians showed genetic differences.
A 2013 study of Haber and et al. found that "The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen."
The authors explained that "religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations."
Even the Quran:
And thereafter We (Allah) said to the Children of Israel: "Dwell securely in the Promised Land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd" [17 : 104]
O my people (Jevvs)! Enter the Holy Land, which God has assigned unto you [5 : 21]
We (Allah) settled the Israelites in a blessed land and provided them with good things [10 : 93]
It was our (Allah's) will to favor those who were oppressed (Jevvs) and to make them leaders of man, to bestow on them a noble heritage and to give them power in the land (of Israel) [28 : 5-6]
We (Allah) gave the persecuted people (Jevvs) dominion over the eastern and western lands which We had blessed (the east and west banks of the Jordan River). Thus your Lord's gracious word was fulfilled for the Israelites, because they had endured with fortitude [7 : 137]
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Today, Jerusalem's holiness to Sunni MusIims as the third most holy city, is based on a late and political interpretation of a Quranic verse. To Shi'ite MusIims, the third holiest city, ranked below Mecca and Medina, is the city of Najaf in southern Iraq.
Early lsIamic sources state that the "Al Aqsa Mosque" (literal meaning: 'the farther mosque'), mentioned only once in the Quran, was one of two mosques located near Ji'irrana, a village located between Mecca and Taif in Hejaz. One of the mosques was called "al-Masjid al-Adna", meaning the "closer mosque" and the other "al-Masjid al-Aqsa", the "farther mosque". When the Quran refers to the Al Aqsa mosque while telling the story of Muhammad's night time journey from the "holy mosque" of Mecca to Al Aqsa, that is, the "farther mosque", it is referring to the mosque in Ji'irrana.
It's also interesting to note the following Hadith:
Narrated Abu Dhar: I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Which mosque was first built on the surface of the earth?” He said, “Al-Masjid-al-Haram.” I said, “Which was built next?” He replied “The mosque of Al-Aqsa.” I said, “What was the period of construction between the two?” He said, “Forty years.” - Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 585 ; Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 636
Al-Aqsa Mosque can't possibly be referring to the mosque which was built in Jerusalem decades after the time of Muhammad's death.
In 682 C.E., fifty years after Mohammed's death, Abdallah Ibn al-Zubayr, the tough man of Mecca, rebelled against the Umayyads who ruled Damascus and would not allow them to fulfill the Hajj in Mecca. Since the Hajj pilgrimage is one of the five basic lsIamic commandments, they decided to choose Jerusalem as their alternative for a pilgrimage site. In order to justify choosing Jerusalem, the Umayyads rewrote the story told in the Quran, moving the Al Aqsa mosque to Jerusalem, and adding, for good measure, the myth of the night time journey of Mohammed to al Aqsa. This is the reason the Sunnis now consider Jerusalem their third holiest city.
Shia lsIam, mercilessly persecuted by the Umayya Caliphate, did not accept the holy Jerusalem canard, which is the reason the third holiest city to Shi'ites is Najif in Iraq, the burial place of Shi'ite founder Ali bin Abi Talib. Many of the Shi'ite elders - Iranian and Hezbollah - only began to call Jerusalem holy after the Khomeni rebellion in 1979 so as to keep the Sunnis from accusing them of being soft on Israel.
The first lie, in that case, is the spurious claim that the "farther mosque" is in Jerusalem.
More lies were piled on to the first one, the main prevarication being the exact location of this so-called Al Aqsa mosque, which until not very long ago, was the silver-domed building on the southern end of the Temple Mount.
The entire area of the Temple Mount is known as al-Haram al-Sharif - "the holy and noble site"- but a change came about after the Six Day War, when Jevvish voices could be heard, calling for the establishment of a synagogue on the Mount. Immediately after the war, a prominent rabbi also said that he wanted to celebrate religious events on the Temple Mount. It was felt that the MusIims would not object, since Al Aqsa was on the southern edge of the compound and the synagogue would not be nearby.
As a result, however, the MusIims decided to announce that the Al Aqsa mentioned in the Quran refers not only to the mosque on the southern end of the compound, but is the name for the entire Temple Mount area, abandoning the original name, al-Haram al-Sharif. The renaming of the Temple Mount is clearly a canard, with two documents, one known and one less known, revealing the truth.
The source that is more widely known is a booklet prepared in 1924 by none other than the openly Jevv-hating (and later on an SS general) Mufti Hajj Amin Al-Husayni and reprinted many times in the years following its first publication. The booklet's title is "A Brief Guide to al-Haram al-Sharif - Jerusalem". Note that the area is not called Al Aqsa. The Al Aqsa Mosque appears as a chapter in the booklet, after the chapter on the Dome of the Rock, the golden-domed structure in the middle of the compound. It is clear that to Hajj Amin Al-Husayni, the Mufti of Jerusalem, the Al Aqsa Mosque was simply the silver-domed building on the southern end of the compound.
The lesser known of the two documents is an ordinary Jordanian tourist map of Jerusalem that was executed in 1965, two years before the 1967 Six Day War. At that time, East Jerusalem was still illegally occupied by the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, while the entire world kept silent and uttered not a word against this totally illegal occupation. The map was drawn by a Jordanian named Abd al-Rahman Rassas who worked as an official surveyor and was authorized by the Hashemite Tourism Authority of Jordan. The map bears the words: "recommended and approved by the official Jordanian Tourist Authority".
A perusal of the map shows that in 1965 the Temple Mount compound was still called "al-Haram al-Sharif", that it was on "Mount Moriah", and that the "Al Aqsa Mosque" was simply the silver-domed building on the southern end of al-Haram al-Sharif. In other words, thirty years before the peace agreement between Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, the Jordanians identified Al Aqsa as no more than an edifice on the southern end of al-Haram al-Sharif, which in turn is built on Mount Moriah.
Those who lie and deceive in the name of lsIam decided to "expand" Al Aqsa - whose real location is actually in Ji'irrana (in Hejaz) - to encompass the entire Temple Mount area only after the Jevvs liberated the site of their Temples in the June 1967 Six Day War.
For example, Sheikh Ikrima Sabr, Mufti of Jerusalem 1994-2006, in a speech given on Friday, January 4th, 2002, said the following: "Oh ye MusIims (all over the world), when we talk about the blessed Al Aqsa Mosque, we mean a mosque whose area is 144 dunam (the size of al-Haram al-Sharif in its entirety) including the walls, the al-Buraq Wall (their name for the Western Wall), the passages, hallways, entrances and squares, in addition to the part that is roofed (the building in the southern end), the part that is ancient (under the roofed part) and the Foundation Stone (under the Dome of the Rock), the Marwani prayer site (Solomon's Stables), all are Al Aqsa…"
Another lie, revealed as such by the very same map, follows on the heels of this one. It concerns the site of the Jevvish Holy Temples. Some lsIamic preachers even claim nowadays that al-Haykal al-Maz'oum - "the supposed (Jevvish) Temple" - was never in Jerusalem. The Jordanian map puts paid to the lies of every one of these lsIamic orators.
Of course, those who deny the existence of the Temple in Jerusalem also simply contradict the well-established history of the land.
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P A L E S T I N E:
the only nation in the world that has it's whole identity based on denying the jews a homeland.
and no Palestinian archaeological findings as well?.
[-] so what is Islamic term Taqiya?
[+]it is a virtue to lie, deceive, lie about lying and telling only half of the truth to the infidel in order to make Islam greater.
for example saying Islam is a religion of peace but hiding to mention that it will be peace in the world only when all you men will be Muslim, and until then it's Jihad.
for example it's okay to lie only in the time of War but hiding to say that the war on the Infidel is constant.
[-] what is the Islamic term "Dar al-Islam"?
[+] in Islam if a place ones were conquered by the Muslim so the place have to be all the time belong to Islam ( and Israel story is conquered by the caliphate and then by the Crusaders. )
[-] Jihad?
Jihad it's one of the 7th pillars of Islam, its means holy war (and in this case is about the land)
Never had a currency, a national anthem, a government, a capital city, or any aspects of nationhood. All fantasy. Romans, Ottomans, British, etc.
For such a strong feeling of belonging, and having been robbed, they know very little about their own history.
It's like going to the police to report that your car was stolen and when they ask you where you bought it, to whom, what year it was, etc, etc, you do not know anything.
And the worst thing is that we talk about the basics among the most basic. When was the country founded?
The answer is also basic, even if you they not like it: Never.
Now, we must also recognize that Palestinian nationality now exists. It was created and many people feel it own. It is not old. It was created since 1948 and today is a reality that must be met.
The Palestinians must also become aware that Israel is a reality and will not disappear.
Funny thing palestine started to exist right after Israel declaration of independence. Who would have known
@@bigkaki000well Palestine never really existed but Palestinians existed long before israel
@@pirate6616 Philistines existed, "palestinians" never.
@@bigkaki000 many nationalities coalesce and solidify in opposition to an outsider. There are no Serbs without Croats, no Poles without Russians, no Ukrainians without Poles and Russians, no Welsh without the English, no French without the Germans, etc. etc. etc. There is no such thing as an "Us" without some "them"s. There were, for a long time, people in Palestine. They had a culture, a civilisation. But it was the events of 1948 that bound them as one into something more concretely and unifiedly "Palestinian".
"Palestinian nationality now exists."
I don't buy that.
First, there is no concept of nationality in the Arab world. Even "Arab" is not a nationality. People distinguish religion, sub-religion (like Shiite and Sunni), general area where they were born, native language, and clan (hamula). No nationality.
It was a Christian Arab who tried to create an Arab nationality. But it failed.
Second, have you ever in your life seen or heard anything Palestinian that did not at the root of it amount to Jew-h..red? I haven't, and I am 63 years old.
I am sorry, but Jew-h..red is not enough to constitute a nationality.
This is easily the best one. It just shows that most people have a flimsy understanding of the history at best. Just shows that we should all forgive and forget the past instead of creating imaginary narratives and look to the future. This goes for both sides
You really thinking asking questions about what happened 2000-3000 years ago has some sort of relevance today?
If so you're pretty delusional
@@hansfrankfurter2903 Huh? That is a new type of troll.... need to adjust.
@@hansfrankfurter2903 well the land belongs to whoever got colonized. (Israelis and Palestinians both agree)
According to history the Romans and Babylonian colonized the land of Israel, when the colonization happens doesn’t matter.
Not to mention if you want to look only at the past century and ignore everything before that, then the Israelis established a state in disputed territories therefor it belonged to them.
@@fafolaw all the evidence we need to know the palestinians are indigenous to the land is their dna. every single deep dive test i've seen on palestinians showed canaanite and nowhere was there arab. palestinians are NOT arabs.
@@hansfrankfurter2903 So you'll pick the narrative of when.lol Isn't that how most decide it. Or is it based on being attacked after being offered their own country and losing and then expectingit back. In a crude answer as you gave, its like gambling and then expecting your losses back
I never laughed so hard. These people really believe the lies they say .. lol 🤣
I feel the same way about christians.
It’s funnier when you ask Israelis to take a DNA test.
@@Anonymouse166 so what do you think happens? Israelis are from the Middle East. They are a Semitic people.
Jews come from all over the world.
They could be Ethiopian, Indian, Hispanic European.
You're the one who doesn't understand the real world.
You're nothing but fake news and hatred. That's a bad combination: ignorant and angry.
Boraida Marraha Nope; but I am impressed with your observation
www.britannica.com/place/Palestine
How longg has palestine existed? "Palestine exists in our hearts"...........LOL
God, I feel sorry for them. They have been so used and abused, brainwashed, by their own leaders just to keep this historical grudge going.
The reason that you embrace totally Palestinian narrative and propaganda is because they fit the worldview that you have about Israel. Debating with you about things that are totally oppose you world view is mission impossible and therefore waste of time.
@mo ali how can you call it 'occupation' . Jews have always lived there. since it was Israel, it was Roman, Ottoman, English. in 1948 they divided it into Jewish/ Arab lands but the arabs declared war on Jews and wanted Genocide. don't the Jews have the right to defend their Mother's and children from extermination? from 1948-1967Jordan controlled west bank but did not declare any separate Arab state because they already have one (Jordan. established at the same time as the partition) was Jordan 'occupying' palestine? No, it's only a problem when Israel isn't being harrassed and threatened by her neighbors. This is political games against Jews.
@@harkmay perfectly and eloquently put, I don't understand how others don't realize this. Like you said, it's a political game against Jews.
Not at all Mohammed; we read history textbooks.
@سید Mohammed Abdullah A. Achmar Yousef Ishaac at what claims? that they are being brainwashed?
Those are great questions. If you have another chance I suggest asking about the origin/meaning of the name “Palestine”
it comes from the hebrew word for invader lol . and that's how they call themselves
@@NitpickingNerd wich is exactly what they are
@@NitpickingNerd not true. Palestine name actually comes from Philistine tribes which lived in Gaza area. They actually came in the same time when the Israelites came. Canaanites are the original people of the land.
@@NitpickingNerd it has dual meaning also migrate (sea peoples)
@@docorwhatever2168 the name phillistine comes from the ancient hebrew word plishtim, which means invaders
The modern Arab Palestinians are confused about their own identity. The word "Palestine" itself refers to the Philistines, so are they Philistines? Are they Canaanites? Or are they Arabs? Their answers change, even within the same sentence. Which is weird, because if the modern Palestinians think they are descendants of the Philistines, and Goliath was a Philistine, then they cannot also claim they are descendants of David, an Israelite. Yet, depending on which side of the bed they wake up on, they will claim they are "Palestinians" or that David and the Israelites were really Palestinians (Philistines). The Palestinians are a hot mess that don't know who they are or where they came from.
I don't think they claim to be descendants of David do they? In any case, like Muhummad himself, Muslims are very confused about history.
@@xpusostomos yes and islam messed them up so they would erase their own culture to adapt arabic language and religion. Look at berber, they really beleieve they are arabian, when they are african and some of them cant even speak arabic . Islam caused alot of confusion in peoples identity.
@@xpusostomos muslims think that they descend from Abraham through Ismael, so
David should not be involved. There is a lot of confusion though, since they probably just invented this story to connect islam to monotheistic roots, i.e. old judaism
@@xpusostomos don t forget the Muslims have the highest percentage of illiterates
yes because the yahoodi squatters have made sure we can't learn our history
Im glad i found this guy's channel...with the conflict currently going on....its amazing to shine some light on the truth...thank you...hope these protesters filled with anger and hate see these videos too...God bless💯
Modern Palestine was established as a mandate of the League of Nations after WWI. At that time there were about 60,000 Jews and half a million Arabs there. Next question?
@@markaxworthy2508 What is your point? Jews originate from Judea and the British returned their homeland that was stolen from them by the Babylonians...
Imaginary nation trying to make imaginary history.
They really are a people without a history. Geezuz.
for the last lady we need more people like you in the world!
She leads a dangerous life in a way. Looking at how Hamas and PLO deal with dissidents.
There are no such people as the so-called “Palestinians”. Arabs living in Israel began to call themselves “Palestinians” in 1964 as a means to make a false claim of sovereignty. In 135-136 AD, following the third uprising by the Israelites who were under the occupation of the Roman Empire, of which uprising was quelled, at which time the name of Occupia Judea was changed to Occupia Palastina. This was an attempt to remove the name of ancient Israel to be replaced by “the Philistines, being ancient Israel’s arch enemy. The Philistines were a seafaring people who originated from Greek-Macedonian region. They eventually left Israel. They were not Arabic or Semitic in origin. The ignorance and hatred of most being interviewed is amusing.
Throughout all subsequent history there was never a nation of “Palestine,” never a people known as the “Palestinians,” nor any notion of “Historic Palestine.” The so called Palestinians are actually Arabs from Syria & Egypt!
The so called “Palestinian People” was invented in 1956 by Ahmed Shukeiri, one of PLO founders! Enough with this crap!
I invite you the read the first line in the Mandate FOR Palestine, ie Article 22 of The Covenant of the League of Nations to be exact, which was what the Mandate drew its authority from .avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/leagcov.asp
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You are starting to use sources cited by me. However again you are doing wrong. Jewish Palestine EY got a special mandate, where all rights from artickle 22 were redirected to Jewish nation
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country; and Whereas by the afore-mentioned Article 22 (paragraph 8), it is provided that the degree of authority, control or administration to be exercised by the Mandatory, not having been previously agreed upon by the Members of the League, shall be explicitly defined by the Council of the League Of Nations; onfirming the said Mandate, defines its terms as follows: *The Mandatory shall be responsible for placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home, as laid down in the preamble"*
@@chugalongway01, the "Palestine" you refer to is a geographic area, which never existed as a nation, state, or political entity, other than as the colonial Roman alternative to Judea.
said by the Khazrian
So your denying my existence😂😂😂. Im 10 generations in palestine then before that my ancestors move from maan in jordan to palestine. During the ottoman era the area we now call palestine was called palestine, before that there was syria-palestina, before that palestine was a name used by the romans. The people who lived in that land were palestinians because they lived in PALESTINE
This video is pure gold !!!
So much BS, This is a Real gem of non sense!!!!
@@chocomojo9552 I trust you're referring to the content of the video, not the above post.
A Cannanite who speaks Arabic....lol
proto Canaanite the father of Semitic languages Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic. Aramaic is the language of Aramean tribes.
Lol ... and I thought that the prophets spoke Hebrew. Ohh wait,
they are.. 😊🇮🇱✡🇮🇱🕎
@Anton Chigurh
Filistin people were European/Greek people that came from the sea and stayed on the Mediterranean coast.
@Compact Jam
Hebrew once was a spoken language before he was replace by Aramean.
Compact Jam proof?
The last woman in the video is a beautiful human. The world needs millions more who will educate themselves instead of just believing what the indoctrined say, and who have beautiful hearts and care for all people like she does.❤
There already is a Palestinian state. It's called Jordan.
Lady at 15:00 is pretty good
I remember watching an Al Jazeera interview where Mahmoud Abbas says that he's the son of the "Arab Canaanites", he's the president of the Palestinians and he doesn't know (or pretends to not know) that the Arabs invaded that land in the 7th-century thousands of years after the Canaanites disappeared, the Canaanites were definitely not Arabs, but they need this narrative because if they don't change the history their narrative falls apart
If you see it like that. That means that the Israelites also don't exist.
Palestine is the only country that never existed before it’s ‘occupation’
This video proves it clearly 😂
Oh my Gosh! What a tricky question right?😉
indeed
What does it mean to be an isreali?
is it me or do palestinians ask questions back when they dunno the answers. Lot of them give out a spaced out look and then ask questions like "what do you meean" or "You want certain time ?" etc.. I guess lot of people in the world do that not just palestinians I have seen americans do it too bit more boldly "I am not sure what you are asking" type of reverse question. Its a defense mechanism I guess.
You should see when muslims debate people about islam - they do this all the time because they know that their religion and history is false and made up.
FAKESTINE!!!
Very confuse generation who claim a country they don't even know
The lady at 15:00 is dropping some truth bombs. "If this is our history, then we are a big failure, actually."
She is very nice woman
Lol truth bombs, she doesn't know what she's saying. You just like it because it justifies your view point.
@Syed Mohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebreel Youre quoting a fictional book and you're calling him brainwashed ? The irony
If only 40% think like her, peace was here yesterday
@Syed Mohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebreel Dawud the independent State of Palestine was declared on November 15, 1988 by the PLO. Look it up. Before 1948, "Palestine" was a body of land that was named by Roman Emperor Hadrian in 134 AD to erase any Jewish history from the conquered land of Judea. This is historically relevant and you should look it up. In the British Mandate, the Arabs living in "Palestine" were known as "Arabs", not Palestinians. This is historically relevant. There was never an actual people who who called themselves "Palestinian". That is historically relevant, look that up.
What a struggle answering questions about a country thats never existed
Israel also never existed prior to my grandfathers time. Neither did modern Hebrew in his grandfathers time. Zionism is a political ideology intended to displace the indigenous people of the land. Technically the entire human species originated in Africa. By zionist logic we all have a right to return and colonize the African continent in the name of our long lost ancestors. We can even try to “revive” the long lost proto-human language in the name of our ancestors.
@@samiabe8686 don’t be like your brothers in this video.. it’s pathetic.
We’re talking history here..
just open any encyclopedia/wiki whatever
Start with judea and Israel kingdoms.
And the second nonsense you wrote about modern Hebrew.. really? So how come every Hebrew speaker can read the Bible and understand everything?
Rewriting history is never a good thing regardless of who is right/wrong
@@shaimrg3270 Hi! If you have a specific response to one of my arguments please state which you disagree with specifically and state why providing a logical retort. Also, ease back from the ad-hominem attacks as they only make you look less intelligent.
As for the point you did bring up: the reason modern Hebrew speakers can read the ancient bible is because the modern Hebrew language was based on that text as long as some other remaining texts.
In reality the language of ancient hebrew is extinct. And the phonetic pronunciations of the words were approximated. The grammar of modern hebrew is also much much different than its ancient Semitic counterpart. An ancient Jewish Semite would not understand a conversation with a modern Jewish speaker.
It is as if the English language dies but it was “revitalized” in the future based on the chronicles of narnia. It will look the same in text, there may be some familiar words or phrases, but it will not at all be the same.
@@samiabe8686 It did exist prior to the Roman conquest and unfortunately you have a people who remember this in their religion. Also this argument is now getting old because most of them are born there. They are now connected to the land of Israel just as the Turks are now connected to the city of Constantinople which their ancestors stole from the Greeks
@@samiabe8686 You brought up a stupid claim which state that Israel never existed prior your grandfathers in which I answered you with a very specific answer - just read about judea and Israel kingdoms.
If I was you I would worry about my own intelligence since you are the one who spread lies and misinformed about the history of this land.
And please search any history book prior to 1900 (when the conflict began) and see how stupid and funny your claim was.
Regarding your second explanation about ancient Hebrew I will just say that I’m not a linguistic man (I’m a medical student) so unlike you I don’t want to argue about things that I don’t really understand about.
At the end I support the Palestinian right for self determination and a state
what I don’t support is rewriting history. No matter the narrative.
When they are asked who was the kings you know they are all thinking king David, king Solomon, king hezakiah.....
@سید Mohammed Achmar A. Abdullah Yūsuf Ishaaq than why don't you answer the question you fool 🤦🏻♂️
A lot of Palestinians are native Jewish who converted to christianity and then Islam genetically proven, so if they say these kings name they are correct.
@Syed Mohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebreel Dawud who were the leaders of Palestine?
@Syed Mohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebreel Dawud Jacob wasJewish/Hebrew. If you mentioned him you probably know Jacob's other name is "ISRAEL"
The word "Palestine" is not mentioned in the Quran once. Nor is "Al-Quds" mentioned even once.
The word "Israel" is mentioned in the Jewish bible countless times. As is the word "Jerusalem".
@Syed Mohamed Ahmar A. AbdAllah Yared Jebreel Dawud Jacob lived thousands of years before Muhammad was even born.
Islam did not exist yet then, so clearly he was no "Muslim"
There is no 'P' sound in the Arabic alphabet, so why would they name their country a name they can't even say😂😂?