Please listen carefully! --- All these people state clearly that they are Arabs. And they are right. Arab citizens in Israel are not compelled to serve in the IDF but they are not excluded either. Unlike the Jewish Israelis, the Arab citizens have a choice.
Sembra che tu non sappia che in Israele gli arabi con cittadinanza israliana hanno meno diritti degli ebrei...non gli fanno prestare servizio nell'IDF perchè non si fidano.
This is what lacks in the whole narrative. It’s so easy to see yet so many people are just blind about this fact. Israel want to drop their weapons but can’t, Palestine don’t want to drop their weapons but can.
@@Darduel Some of them do, but many don't and it takes years to get citizenship and many never get a response back from the gov. There is a purposefully imposed limit on the number of Palestinians able to get citizenship annually. Perhaps you think it's fair that Zionist Jews across the world get a preference for citizenship via the birthright scheme as opposed to the native Palestinians?
My relatives in Israel are Christians besides a few minor incidents they had little problem with jewish Israelis , mostly their lives in Israel has been better than our lives in Canada they have plenty of land in Nazareth built a hotel with money given from the church and a loan from the Israeli government and their are rumours both debts were forgiven , today they are millionaires prospering in Israel while our side of the family that left to Canada are middle class with a few well off , my grandfather before he passed said his biggest mistake was leaving Israel
@@bdadolph They don't look any different. That's why the extreme leftist view of Israelis being white and Arabs being brown is kind of ridiculous... anyone who actually visits Israel can see it with their own eyes.
@@bdadolphbecause they are brothers. Their DNA Is similar. This war is a fratricidal war. Jesus is depicted white like snow , blonde and blue eyes. Back then, a Middle East person was hardly like that. But hey, we all love fairytales !!!😂
Arab Israelis are free to move to the Palestinians Authority anytime they want. But they won't because we have free education, free medical care, freedom of religion, press, and speech. We have democracy - something the PA, even if it were to become a state, will never have.
just saying they are oppressed doesn't mean anything, because you are just making stuff up. how exactly are they opressed? not only the have the same rights at israel as the jews, they have even more privileges than jewish citiezns, why cant jews or christians visit the temple mount at jerusalem?, the holiest site for the jewish religion, only muslims can. keep in mind that all of jerusalem including the temple mount is in control of israel, and israel allows only muslim to visit the temple mount. yet they are the ones who are oppressed. get some knowledge before making empty claims please @@2beolivia
Where is this democracy that everyone is talking about? I don't see any reasonable voices in Israel that someone who doesn't belong to Zionist movement can feel represented or heard. Let's say, hypothetically some Jewish person woke up and decided to be an Atheist. What options do they even have if they wanted to remove the Jewishness of the nation?. Israel is a nation always at war with everything that is different. I don't see any possible way Israel is a democracy unless it maintains a Jewish majority actively so. There is no right of return to Arabs. Yet I see some active immigration for all "Jews" from all around the world.
@@amzraptor are you dumb? The all idea of israel and zionism is to build a state for the jews so they would not have tk suffer anti semiticim. You think it is not ok that israel identity is jewish? When the state is for jews? Btw there are many voices in israel who dont belong ot zionism. Look up who Ahmed Tibi is, he is in the knesset and he practicly support only palestine and support hamas. How is that not democrcy when you let even terror supporters try to have a political group? There is also no one who is forced to be religious be law in israel threre are some rules that support judaishm but what do expect there to be in a also jewish state which is a place for jews?
@@amzraptor Well an Arab judge have sent our president to jail, there are Arabs in the Israeli parlament, there are meny honorable Arab doctors, Arabs integrated in high positions in Israel they enjoy freedom od speech, things that Arabs from other countries can only dream about
@12:45 She says "Originally it was Palestine". Actually, originally it was Israel. Then the Romans invaded. Then the Persians invaded. Then the Arabs invaded. Then the Crusaders invaded. It's extraordinary that a university-educated person in Israel can be so ignorant of history
+LordHealey So Americans who had English ancestors don't belong in North America? If tomorrow Italians for example are invading US and they say that their religion or their roots are the same as the Native Americans would you step aside and leave them your country? Stop with the nonsense, zionists came and took something by force because people ( not even their ancestors for a lot of them) were there 2000 years before. Palestine, including today Israel belong to Palestinians, whether they are jews, muslims or christians. Zionists should be kicked out, Netanyahu, Sharon and the others judged in another Nuremberg tribunal and jews would live in Palestine as Palestinians or guests if they come from another country like Poland. Unfortunately, some palestinians don't make the difference between jews, zionists or israelis. Hard to blame them when Israelis killers are saying they are jews. But fortunately, a lot of jews and even some israelis, whether they were here before Israel creation or not are showing they are good people and hate their government.
What originally it was? When u were slaves of pharon ???!!! There is overlapping in population in middle east . ... but really I want to say .. hitler burn u , but u revenge from cousins
I would look into what Zuheir Mohsen said in 1977 and what Hafez al Assad said to Arafat.They know this whole "Palestinian" thing is fictitious .They have aspirations of a Palestinian state expanding into Israel as you can hear at 0:50 They hope to take Israel and then unite with the other surrounding arab states because "we muslims are one nation" (as you can hear in this video around 15:51-16:14 they all say it) and as soon as that were to happen they would stop calling themselves "Palestinians" and return to just being Muslim arabs like they considered themselves to be before 1948 .That's why you don't hear them telling Jordan that their territory was called Palestine. There's no need,it's already theirs,they are the Jordanians,Syrians,Egyptians,Lebanese .Take a look at their last names
Israeli Palestinians wont move out from Israel because they are enjoying the freedom and comfort of Israael and yet they are ungrateful and keep on ranting against Israel.
grimaldi25 they’re getting something bc all our tax is getting sent to Israel. They have too much money and clean water who wouldn’t be buzzing? but then again they’d rather live in a Palestine state bc Muslims do things in a halal way, much safer! Muslims, Christians and Jews have been living side by side peacefully for centuries until the Zionist destroyed the Middle East twelcome the Anti-Christ
I feel like a lot of these young people have been fed a romanticized view of nationalism, and will be very disappointed once they actually moved to a Palestinian state. Or if Israel became Palestine. One even mentioned feeling like an outsider in the West Bank. I don't think they realize just how much Israel's liberal, secular values have influenced them. But they will if they choose to live in a closed-off, Islamic culture.
+Yvonne Hoff exactly what i was thinking. im an arab israeli citizen and i would much rather live in israel, where life is more advanced and we have exactly the SAME FUCKING RIGHTS as jewish citizens. plus i feel a lot more connected to israel and israeli culture and society then i would for example in the west bank. id feel out of my depth and like an outsider in Palestinian territory areas or in Gaza for example.
+zmanafacation You're the perfect example of what happens when people stop allowing religion(and other differences) to interfere with getting along. If others just saw themselves as human beings instead of Jewish or Muslim, it could work over there. It's encouraging to see an example of progress/integration over there. Thanks for that.
mytube2010a thank you,but to be fair it would understandably be harder for Israeli Arabs who live in Arab towns and villages to share my views or to be able to integrate or even have the motivation to integrate into Israeli society. i grew up in a mixed city where jews, arab christians and muslims live and work with eachother, so i had it pretty easy. its harder for those who dont have real and constant interaction with the other side.
95notoriousBIG Jews and Muslims didn't live "in peace". Jews lived as second-class citizens, subject to the violent whims of Muslims. Your "fact" is historical revisionism. And Palestinians who live in Israel (the demographic addressed in this video) absolutely do have a good life. They have full equal rights under the law. The people in this video have not had any of their property or land stolen. This is about who they wish to govern them politically.
One thing is for sure: a Palestinian state will not be a democracy. Israeli Arabs may choose to move and live there, but they will soon understand that it is better and safer to live in a strong democracy like Israel. Many of them understand it even now, seeing Hamas's fascist theocracy in Gaza.
Valery Ivanishin palestine is nothing alike "other states" they are a democratic population believe it or not. if you go to West bank you'll see how much organized they are even with all adversities. And the most importante thing that people doesnt notice, palestinians doesn really give a fuck about your religion, as long as there are lots of christians palestinians. is not a religion conflict but a geopolitical issue. ps: People really believe that israel is a democratic Paradise.. they arrest people that protest against its own governement. there a lot of activists killed by IDF and lots of american jews arrested only for protesting with palestinians (peacefully)
@@ibelongtotheworld1578 That is why they have no Humen right? Freedom of speach? Gay rights? Women rights? Stop lying! There is not one Arab country with true democracy and Humen rights!!!
They don't want to lose the benefits* of Israeli society but don't want to admit it. *That includes the culture and values of Israeli society. Especially for women, I can hardly imagine wanting to live in an Islamic culture.
+R. Chatt The benefit is $30 billion per year of USA subsidies of Israel -- $30,000 per year per Israeli, without that subsidy Israel would be a 3rd world hell hole. Those are the facts.
A better question to ask an Israeli Arab is this: If, within the context of an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, you were allowed to vote whether your town or village could choose to be part of the Israeli state or the Palestinian state, how would you vote?
Sorry, you either chose to be Jordanian or Israeli. No voting involved. The League of Nations broke up the Ottoman Turkish Land Empire, unless a subject people such as Kurds, Jews, Arabs pled their cases at the San Remo Conference, and got a majority of the 51 Members to vote your way, oh well. The Arabs were given 5 mandated Nation States to be. The fact that the Levantine Mandatory Arabs and their Leader, Amin al Husayni refused to enter a Mandate Agreement in 1922, pretty much ended that. They certainly accepted Jordanian Citizenship while on illegally occupied by Arab League Nations Territory. It was only when the “Palestinian” Arabs tried to take control of Jordan, again seeking to rewrite history, that King Hussein turned his Pak Mercs loose on the PLO. Called Black September”. Th LoN gave Arabs the Lions share of Ottoman Lands, but the Arabs want it all and a new Caliphate. Loyal Israeli Arabs ARE Israelis. Full Citizens and th right to be such. Just as Druse, Samaritan, Circassian et al Israelis are. And god help the Jews if they don’t have h leavening of “Others” amongst hem. They are oils tear themselves to pieces arguing with each other….
interesting how some people forget that "Palestine" was never a country but a region of some empire or another. For hundreds of years it belonged to the ottomans than to the brits, than it went to Israel Jordan and Egypt, than it became Israel, than it became Israel with Palestinians having a self government-ish, than Gaza Israel and Palestinians with a self government-ish in the west bank.
Actually Jews always lived there. Pali' Arabs showed up not that long ago coming from the near by Arab countries. This Arab migration was assisted and encouraged by the Brits in the region who did not give two shits about the objections of the Jews who were originally there and were the actual local population.
Adidas XL Iraqi Jews are Sephardic and they are not "most of the Israelits" but part of the Jews and not the biggest part of the Sephardic Jews either. Also those very Iraqi Jews you are referring to are white - I actually met some of those people. Also while you had Jewish diaspora coming to Israel from different places there were also Jews who always lived in Israel and never left - maybe not a large number yet it is a fact that they were always there. So I actually do know what I am talking about, you on the other hand talking shit out of your ass and reciting Hamas propaganda - Hamas made up their own version of history which is being taught to pali Arabs and popularised as propaganda on the global networks. There are actual Pali Arabs who talk about this issue today. You were brainwashed and you don't even know it.
Have you ever been to the middle East?? Go see for yourselves . In most of the countries you are safer than many so called developed country. Just travel once there. Don't just spit whatever you see on the news.
+Lenny G Half of Lebanon is Christian! the president of Lebanon is Christian and they consider themselves arabs. They call themselves lebanese, not israelis. Granted... that and the poor copts in egypt are all that's left. Turkey used to be all christian, now they're 98% muslim. Otherwise, christians don't live well in muslim countries.
Hypocrites! They know how good they have it. They refuse to move under the pretext that they where born in a non-existent state (a state that will never include Israel proper). It's not hard saying that they won't move because Israel proper should be included in Palestine, because they know it's virtually impossible that it will never occur. I live in Canada. I was born 60 kilometers where I live. To put this in context, this is approximately twice the distance from Jerusalem to Hebron.
I could not agree with you more. The people being interviewed are all hypocrites. Let us see what they really feel if Palestine demanded that all Arabs are called to move back home by Palestinian decree. These people never had it so good and don't want to live under any Muslim law. So they have reconciled in their minds that Israel is really Palestine and its Arab land anywy....so there!!!!!! This way they have an upscale modern life with better opportunities for their families but professing to the Palestinians they are only grinning and bearing it.
@Mister Dude Let’s try a different approach. What would you see done? A two state solution does not provide security guarantees that Israelis require, and deserve. Israelis are predominantly born in Israel, and the notion that they’ll move away to make you feel better is preposterous. Like it or not, the Palestinians are playing with an empty hand.
If Israel was indeed an evil oppressive apartheid state, then Arab citizens of Israel who suffer from it, would have wanted to move the just 1km to 20km to live under the PA. NTM Any Arb citizen of Israel would want annexation of his town to a future Palestinian state if any such would be created, not fight against such annexation as they do.
That is not apartaid ir is just a matter of security for the Israel people. Now it is clear that they were right about it. Those crazy and barbaric people that name themselves palwstins are really dangerous antiseptic
@@waltonsmith7210what is the legal definition of apartheid? If you are going to accuse millions of people of such a crime surely you can give me the definition of it under international law right?
I'd rather stay in Israel. Let's be real, living in Israel is much more better than living in a Muslim or an Arab country. It's like telling an American if they'd like to move to Syria.
Only because Israel is supported by the 'blind' deluded Christian Zionists in America and their belief in some of the texts in the New Testament, ie. Revelations which is a book written for the people of the time.
@Peselo The average west banker doesn't earn 81,000. If you take into account that the GDP per capita of Palestine is only a 13th of Israeli, even if you exclude gaza it doesn't come close. I think I've seen your source and the problem with it is that relies on a few cases and they are self-proclaimed, not government statistics.
@Peselo edited my comment, was a typo. But I mean, think about it, the country with the second highest average salary in the world is Iceland, and it only earns 70,000$
@Peselo even if you exclude all the population of gaza but include the total income they bring to Palestine you'll still get a GDP per capita of 4,568 dollars, whereas Israel has 41,715
Here is a more reliable source: "The average daily wage for wage employees in the West Bank was 98.1 NIS" source: www.pcbs.gov.ps/portals/_pcbs/PressRelease/Press_En_16-12-2017-LF-en.pdf
I don't care how do you call it -- Israel or Palestine ...I will stay here as long as it is a democratic country where I feel free and able to feed and raise my children in a safe society with a quality education and human rights..
I think that question should be asked of the Arab Muslims. If the choice was a Palestinian state under Hamas or sharia law with strong ties to Iran would they choose to move there or stay in Isreal under democracy with full rights and citizenship? I'm going to guess that those that have lived under democracy would choose to stay. That's just a guess though, I could be very wrong
@docorwhatever2168 treats Muslim citizens as second class? Really? You think the Supreme Court is second class? Because there's a Muslim in the Supreme Court today in Isreal. And no they don't treat Muslims or any of their other non Jewish citizens as second class.
Created a year before and four times larger than Israel. 1946, 89000 sq km. No matter how many Palestian states will be created, they will still want one more. I'm sure you understand now :)
It's funny all the Arab Israelis keep saying Israel came to them, they didn't come to Israel. The land never had Arabs before the Islamic/Arab Conquests. So the Arabs/Muslims came to Israel. Not the other way around.
All Arabs are not Muslims. Many of the Mazrahi/ Sephardi people are Jewish and have followed Judaism for a long time. However, many of these Ashkenazis are converts to Judaism and they are mostly European. Their Genetics prove that they are 70% European and 30 % middle eastern Jew. However, I feel all Jews are equal. My family is Arab Jew. I use to live in Israel but my family all moved to the US.
Baber Gill Lol no. Genetics says otherwise. You are more than likely picking out a single genetics test that supports what you are saying. However, the vast majority of genetic tests show that Ashkenazi Jews are mostly Middle Eastern. Science doesn't rely on a single test. It takes many tests to form a conclusion. And that conclusion is that Ashkenazi Jews, and most Jews in the world (with the exception of obvious converts, Beta Israel, etc) are all mostly majority Middle Eastern ancestry. And I didn't say all Arabs are Muslim. Why do you think I put Arab/Muslims?
Sk No... they are not, this is just another fictional history that people fabricated, no one that we know of today is connected to the canaanites, the "palestinians" are just arabs that came during the british empire from neighboring countries like egypt and jordan. Also, the "palestinians" didn't even exist as a group until 67.
The problem with most of those Arabs is that they want to have their cake and east it too. They want to have a country that is called Palestine while presuming it'll have all the same rights and benefits they currently enjoy under Israel but with the country's name Palestine and with Arabs as its title nation. When the man begins to hint regarding the actual conditions that such hypothetical country will have - which are the same like the currently autonomous regions such as Gaza strip for example where people have real health care/insurance, no social insurance, no normal infrastructure and human rights while lacking many other elements and freedoms that the democratic Israeli model currently provides - those guys say "wait a minute". That's the issue here. That also tells you that this is not about coexistence for them. They say "we consider Israel to be Palestine, all of it is our land.." and so on. They don't recognise Israel's right to exist and the fact that this is a Jewish land. But at the same time they do enjoy their freedoms. This is dishonest in a sense, and two faced. Also I have a bit of an issue with the way the interviewer conducts the interview. He asks his questions with some kind of uncertainty - not sure how to describe it - almost as if he is careful not to offend someone's feelings. You are asking a specific question that pertains to specific issues. Ask straight forward as is, with confidence. If someone finds it offensive they will decline to respond or tell you their feelings are hurt. But adequate people will simply answer by expressing their opinion. When you're being a bit careful as you are you are confusing people - both the viewer who's watching the videos and the people you are interviewing. Many of them got mixed up not because their English is weak, but because of the way you were asking the questions - even when you were asking them in Hebrew. Some of them were not so bright though, this too is a factor.
I mean.. literally Israel provided all that and built all that and they wouldn't be possible ever to built any society there and their population will ve fightig malaria. Their mindset is total tribalism, and what unites them is antisemitism.
+jerry robin Bam. Just like that. ...and 'checkmate.'... Though I do have to be fair here, there were a lot of Arabs already living in that land at the time, who were removed from their homes, even _if_ there was no "Palestinian" or otherwise much less Arab controlled state.
+DerBlitzStag true, no Israeli prime ministers but plenty of Jewish kings of the two jewish Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Including King David and King Solomon...no palestinian kings, presidents, prime ministers or any other heads of state ever existed until Arafat. Why? because there was never a palestinian state...checkmate.
+Bentunes U dumb fuckhole, the people who lived in that land were palestinian, who gives a fuck about what religion they had or what name their kingdom was called? fuck your checkmate
Sharif Radwan It seems to me that when a person has no command of language, are vulgar, ignorant and uniformed, have no integrity and are hidden by anonymity they write all kinds of vulgar trash. It's laughable and also very very sad at the same time.
786swe How, by giving them Gaza so Hamas can fire more rockets into Israel? Israel is always seeking peace, while the other side just elected savages who use civilians as shields to be their government. It's pretty clear which side wants peace in this.
It's very hard to be peaceful when you have no economic opportunity and are not allowed emigrate to somewhere that does. Israel won't even let Gazans leave for Europe
***** Your post is utterly lacking in compassion for the Gazan civilian population caught between two warring sides who are not allowed to even leave the territory. I guess if you were the innkeeper in the Bible it would be "sorry no room" to Mary and Joseph and Jesus
There is a unique and almost bizarre obsession and opinion that home must be the exact plot of land I live in rather than a nation, or even community. These people are also hypocrites they enjoy the economic benefits of Israel, yet curse the state and deny its existence but then say they would not move to the West Bank or Gaza if it were to be a nation. The reality is in this culture, home is your plot of land and it is not the entire state, if every Palestinian were to receive his home meaning the physical plot of land back, I think that is the only true solution for satisfaction (something which is impossible to do). Meaning if this is how they define being content there may never be peace, and this is not looking at the obstacles that the Israelis create as well. How complex!
Trouble is if you want to give land 'back' to the Palestinians, 1) how do you deal with all that land they SOLD to the Jews? and 2) what do you do about all the Jews that were thrown out of Arab countries and had their land confiscated?
Spot on comment. The audacity of the Palestinians living in Israel makes me so sad for Israelis. These people enjoy all the benefits a free and democratic society offer them due to a Jewish belief system, but also deny Israel and say it shouldn't exist. Funny they admit they wouldn't move to Palestine because they know under Islamic rule it is oppressive and hateful and they would lose all of their opportunities and freedom. Staggering cognitive dissonance.
@@LMWast1As though you don't have any arab immigrants in the US enjoying it's freedom and liberties all the while chanting "death to the US" .They are colonizing the US and Europe and pretty soon it's going to be the same there.But they are starting to wake up now...
So bs. The free 4 billion wasted in isteal as free gifts to commit genocide. Those vetos for aparthied, and trade deals could soon become boycotts and abstain votes. If Isreal can not destroy others using gifts ..
As someone in your interview said: "I live in reality, not in a fantasy". Most of these young people want to live in a fantasy or some imagined (not real) Palestine.
Like the Americans who are for Hamas and Palestine ; they also live in a fantasy. They think that without Israel Arab nations would be places with rights and freedom etc.
+Qaryouti XXII what a bullshit put your tin hat back on and turn off your computer, if there was a rothschild running the world, they would take over some other beautiful place in the world and solve all problems.. antisemitism at its best
This is what have lead to the demise of Palestine and the Palestinians, they only think of themselves and their personal lives while on the other hand, the Israelis help each other greatly. Thousands of Palestinians suddenly forget about Palestine when they get a ticket to a developed country. Being a Palestinian I despise such people.
If the land of Israel was under the control of the Palestinian authority we would all starve to death. I feel thankful that I live in Israel and I have an Israeli passport, it simply makes life easier. I would never move to Palastine.
ilgfalam What happen bitch? So an Arab woman speaks about how happy she is in a free state and not under you're SHIT islamic leadership and overall lack of brains to do basic governmental work without including the SHITTY religion of yours?
Ive watched a few of these now and it seems everyone that is asked if there were two separate states one Israel and one Palestine would they move there or would there be peace, most of them who answer seem to try to dodge the question either by bringing up what happened in the past, or the land is theirs so why would we do that. Shahira is cautious of how she answers, she knows if she were to go to West Bank or Gaza she would be more controlled than she is now. For one she is allowed to be an activist whilst in Israel. If she was in West Bank or Gaza she would not be aloud in politics full stop. Israeli Arabs (Palestinians) say they are discriminated against and that Israel is an apartheid state, if that were true why stay? Why not move to West Bank or Gaza or any other Arab state? Why stay in an apartheid state? The reality is the Palestinian people just don't want peace with Israel even when they were offered West Bank, Gaza and a large proportion of southern Israel they refused.
Gaza is now under the control of Arabs (who call themselves palestinian) so all of them should be excited to move there and contribute to making it a state.
@@titob.yotokojr.9337 First of all they're not Arabs they're Palestinians and if by Arabs you mean Muslims of Palestine then yeah but never forget they are Muslims and all of us Muslims around the world will never forget about them
@@tarajii_dawla except the only reason these blockades exist is because of Hamas’s policies. There wasn’t a blockade prior to Hamas attacking both Israel and Egypt. So the end of the black AEE is really quite simple: stop trying to induce change on others (eg- Egypt and Israel) and there will be no reason for a blockade. I might also add that Hamas was elected democratically. They’ve now exceeded their mandate, substantially, but did the people of Gaza honestly not know this was likely to happen? Or that Hamas would involve them in a fight against Israel? I ask because for decades there has been a relative lack of sympathy for Germans and Italians when their governments took them into disastrous wars. Nevertheless, Mussolini and Hitler both had strong popular support and those nations paid the price for their policies. Today Gaza is having the same experience. It pains me to see this, but lifting the blockade isn’t any more a solution to the problem than ending the Second World War with Hitler and Mussolini alive. In fact, had that happened can you imagine how many more people might have died when those two lunatics rebuilt? As painful as it is to see these conflicts to the end, the other choice is far worse. The same applies to Gaza: the best thing the world can do is weaken Hamas so that Gazans can get another chance to elect a more moderate government. But Gazans need to free themselves from this as well.
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I’m an Israeli Jew and To all of my Israeli Arab country men lets not make rash decisions just yet. If you want to be called Palestinians instead of Israelis we will support you and we wish the new Palestinian state to come will be as successful as Israel inshallah. but don’t give up on your Israeli citizenship before we know it’s all good. It’s true that your economy is managed by Jewish Israeli but you’re are comfortable now and this is still your home and you’re still Israeli and we don’t want to see you suffering in an Arab state. Let’s just wait a bit and see how it’s going and then make decisions.
India is not demanding Pakistan back. Pakistan took land from India. During the 1947 two state Partition of India. Germany lost land to Poland after WW2 … Germany is not demanding it back and accusing Poland of stealing their land. The reason innocent civilians get killed is because the Palestinians attack Israel. There were many more civilians in Germany that got killed in WW2 than British civilians… but that didn’t make Germany right. Palestine - was a region occupied by other Empires all throughout history. The Palestinians never owned it … they lived there with the Jews and Arabs. In 1947 The Arabs rejected the chance to have their own country by the UN because they wanted to eradicate Israel. Israel was legally created by the UN 1947 Resolution. The Palestinians should stop playing victim. Left alone Israel is no threat and have turned a desert into an Israeli superstate.
@@asadali2311 Israel would leave Palestine state alone if it wasnt attacking them. In these videos its very clear many Palestinians want to destroy Israel and take everything back. If your neighbour wanted to destroy you you would do everything to protect yourself.
I really like these videos because it gives (or at least seems to give) the real feeling of the people. Not like lots of medias who describe the situation as black vs white, good vs bad. Just continue! :)
Israel is the best place to work as a conflict zone reporter. Relocate the family to Tel-Aviv, take the kids to school in the morning, drive an hour to the organized riot area (no press-> no point in having riots), take the photos/video, drive an hour back to the office, edit, send the material to head office and leave in time to pick up the kids from school, then have a nice evening at a nice restaurant, bar, theater, concert, movies or at a full convenience home. Now try doing it in Darfur, Sudan, South Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Mali, Eritrea, Somaliland, Western Sahara, Niger, Libya, or any other of the dozens of conflict zones of the middle east. Add the fact that just mentioning Israel or Jerusalem immediately raises some attention in the ears of those who have little Jewish, Christian, or even Islamic background, a guaranty for at least some viewers rating. Add the free press policy of Israel that allows the presence foreign journalists even with an explicit hostile agenda like Al-Jazeera. Now you know why Darfur gets little to no coverage, while Israel has the highest number of foreign reporters (and reports).
@@mortef AJ and AP should not have provided a shield to Hamas for rocket launching towards Israeli cities, AP and AJ should not serve as impunity cover to terrorists. They are lucky that Israel gives upfront warning which allows them and Hamas time to evacuate even though rocket launching posts should be responded with immediate retaliation. Had it been any other country but Israel then the retaliations would have been erasure of building without any warning, AP and AJ would have been keeping their offices miles away from Hamas.
Yeah of course it was Palestine from the beginning... Or was it not ? Of course it was not. It was Canaan, first use of the word Palestine to describe the place was by Herodote in 5th century BC and described a place near Syria, which comes from from the Philistines poeple, who are not related to the Palestinian people, I mean come on, The Kingdom of Israel and Judea was yes after Canaan but was way before those lots of different borders and names we give to this Palestinian "state" which have never existed before since it was always under the rules of someone else, don't get me wrong, i'm not hated on the Palestinians or on Palestine, but get the fact straight, I hope peace will come but stop using wrong facts like Palestine was here before everything else, by the way the word now Palestine comes from the hebrew word Peleshet, which means Invadors in hebrew.
It's obvious the Palestini don't WANT an independent state, much easier to get fat on The West's welfare: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa#Palestinian_territories They don't build hospitals, schools, roads etc: most Western aid ends up in Hamas/Abbas's Swiss Bank Accounts, is used to build the attack-tunnels (which ended at Israeli KINDERGARTENS) that Israel began the 2014 war in order to destroy, money for food to breed more junior-jihadis... this is going nowhere, and it's the fault of the CORRUPT people Palestini voted for -- who have now suspended elections (Palestine was supposed to have a vote >5 years ago!! *Abbas suspended democracy, and Israel WILL NOT NEGOTIATE any new peace treaties with a regime that no longer has any OFFICIAL (constitutional) support of a Palestinian majority* (so they can't say later, "Israel, you made that agreement with a guy who didn't represent us, so we will not give to Israel what we promised to give") and ESPECIALLY since Abbas, their current _de facto_ leader, broke the promises Arafat made to Israel & couldn't control Hamas from rebelling against Abbas for a full decade... *it's like trying to make a serious contract with children...they rely on WESTERN AND ISRAELI DOCTORS (as all other CHILDREN: they are DEPENDENT on others), and they don't have an INDEPENDENT MINDSET or MENTAL STRENGTH to achieve an INDEPENDENT state:* please, anyone who disagrees, PROVE me wrong.
+Salami Allahcum no, your idiot.....jew have nothing to do with canaan....canaan is a phoenician. jew from mesapotamian origin. get your stupid facts straight. phoenicians have no thing to do with the jew.
Samuel Nan thei kep trying the agenda of telling a lie million times hoping it will become the truth in people minds one day...it partially succeeded around the world but the jews are aint suckers..they know what really happened according to history and will fight as much as necessary
"You don't know what u got till it's gone" it's easy for them to say they'd want to move to Palestine, the live good lives in a free, Democratic nation. They have no idea how it is to live in an enclosed Islamic nation like Palestine. These Arabs are the most privileged in the middle east.
The same argument racist whites use against black lives matter protesters in America. “Priveleged millennials that dont know how good they have it. There are other countries in the world that are much worse off.” If its called privileged to want to have the right of full self determination then I guess that means all israelis (jew and arab) are priveleged. Also Palestine isn’t Islamic you fucking idiot... lol
They clearly said they belong to Palestinian and Arab nation but they don't want to move because they feel they should stay in all the land of historical Palestine not because they are in love with the Jewish state.
@@tariqalmukhtar6595 the question isn’t about racism. They should fight for more rights in Israel not to want to leave it when the other side is totally nuts. But I believe in coexistence not in 2 different country’s
Although she repeatedly contradicts herself and ends up by "daring to say things out loud": most Arabs would prefer to stay in Israel. An israeli lawyer told me he had many arab clients who preferred to be judged in Israel than in the west bank because they had absolutely NO faith in their own judicial system.
@@jjjcluzot5340 I honestly don't know what she said, only she wants build a secular state of Palestine bcs she thinks she has the knowledge (as if Abbas and Hamas would ask a woman) and her family wants to live in Israel and then she went how she wouldn't kicked the settlers and how she everyone would give a double passports and that if someone kicked her, she would be against and she mentioned France, so basically she doesn't want to Israel became Palestine in some future agreement that he kicked her or gave her town to PA. And only Ramallah bcs it is secular. So what she basically wants is to have exact Palestine as Israel is, she knows it is impossible but she is afraid to say loud and clear how bad society is in Gaza and West Bank basically.
I love how the Arab colonizers in Israel are like "Omg, we're so oppressed and life is awful Israel is evil and an apartheid state.... But we'll continue to live here even with a 'Palestinian' state". 🙄
yes I do agree, if you ask here in Finland they will actually answer the same that they are oppressed here in Finland, I think they feel oppressed in every were
***** Ask them (all groups, israelis, palestinians, arab israelis) whether they agree with the following propositions: 1) Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; 2) This right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Also ask them if they can affirm that it is likely that their preferred government would agree with these 2 propositions.
12:52 "In 1948, it changed suddenly to be Israel" This is incorrect, The Jewish people actually has opened few offices prior to 1948, to be able to declare a Jewish state. It wasn't "Suddenly" it was after a long war with the Arab community and the British Mandate. Without the Jewish presence in Israel this area would still be in Turkish hands.
The last commentator talked about the PA building a state with pensions and health care etc., but the politicians are too corrupt and the people under their authority have little say in how the money is spent. A lot of donor money is siphoned off. Abbas is apparently worth around $100 million. How did an ordinary politician get to be so rich? Why isn't more money spent on infrastructure development and health etc.
Corey, If you need help with translating from arabic to english, or even arab english to english. I'm willing to volunteer. There are multiple things that were translated wrong here.
There has never been a stste called "Palestine". The League of Nations assigned TransJordan as the Land for southern Levantine Arabs, Israel was always supposed to be sovereign to the Jews, with others welcome to live there, as they had before. The map was made in 1922.
@@zeinh6052 “Palestinians” are an Arab/Arabicized Nationalist Group of mixed Pre and Ottoman Era imported subject groups of Peoples, including North African Groups, Balkan Groups, Chechens/Circassians, Egyptians/Sudanese allied with the Arab League. Their Arab/Islamist Supremacist political party, the “Palestinian Liberation Organization” was designed by Johann von Leers, who worked for Nasser post WW2, at the behest of the Nazi Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a former Turkish Soldier, and Muslim Brotherhood from one of the Levantine Effendi Arab Families placed in power post the Arab Conquest of the Levant, taking it from the East Roman Christians in 638 CE. Dhemmi Laws we’re then instituted (Islamic “ Jim Crow”)The Arabs ruled the Levant from Damascus, and then Cairo until they lost it to the Seljuk Turks in 1077 CE. Arabs never ruled that section of the Levant again until granted/mandated Lands by the League of Nations in 1922. Amin al Husayni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem did not recognize the Allied powers defeat of the Central Powers during WW1. And he refused to allow his Arab Higher Committee to enter into a Mandate agreement with the League of Nations, despite the British having successfully argued at the LON for an Arab Muslim sovereign section of the Mandate for Palestine (the LON agreement with the local Jewish Community (Zionist being defined as “supporting the development of sovereignty and self determination of the Jewish People in their ancestral Homeland) to be the Mandated People of the 23 percent remaindered from the LON assignment of TransJordan Memorandum Mandatory Landbase assignment to the Local Arabs and Arabicized Peoples. I east of the Jordan River was therefore mandated to that group, and ethnically cleansed of Jews, and no Jewish Repatriation and settlement allowed. West of Jordan was To be Jewish Sovereign, with specifically spelled out rights for no non- Jews. Including full land rights for all non Jews who owned Land as denoted in the Ottoman Turkish Land Tax rolls created by the Ottoman Land Registration Act of 1858, which is the primary source document for legitimate land ownership in what is Present Day Israel, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon. All LON Mandated Nation States. However, the Allied Nation State powers placed as Mandate Administrators, eg Great Britain and France egregiously violated International Law again and again on behalf of their favored groups and non in their own nationalist interests. Part of those violations were the giving of Jewish owned lands to Arabs, and support of Arabs butchering and thieving the Jewish Communities of the Mandate. Then removing the surviving Jews, and giving the Arabs the properties vacated. Please see the Massacre of the Jewish Community of Hebron for documentation and validation of this. As soon as the Jewish Community was able to rid themselves of the corrupt British Mandate Administrators, many of the British Military Officers along with volunteer British Troops crossed the Allenby Bridge to join the TransJordanian Arab Legion, which the British had trained and equipped for their Hashemite Client Family, and to whom the British had given the rule of TransJordan. The day after the Mandatory ended in 1948, and the last LON Mandated State had become Sovereign, theArab League Armies attacked the then brand new Israel, in order to take land and in line with Islamist Supremacism destroy Jewish Sovereignty, and take what had been built for the new Jewish State during the mandatory era. The TransJordanians swooped on the nearly defenseless Jewish Communities and ethnically cleansed and butchered in concert with the Mufti’s Arab Higher Committee. And the Jordanian/British invasion successfully took most of the West Bank, and ethnically cleansed Jews from their privately owned properties (see the history of the Etzion Bloc, the ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem documented by the New York Times) and with Jordan now illegally occupying Israeli Lands, and with the legitimate LON assigned Borders violated, the same occurred with the Egyptian invasion of the Gaza at the same time. The Israelis fought the Arab League Armies to a stand still, as noted by the Green and Blue Line armistice agreements. However, despite the Arab League Nations seeking to steal and destroy Israel completely, they were unable to do so. However, they had told many laws cal Arabs to revolt against their Sovereign, and/or get out of the way of the Arab league Armies. And many left their homes and did so, believing Israel would be destroyed, they would return and be Arab Sovereign, and be able to take privately Jewish Owned properties. Well, things didn’t happen as they expected. In the Arab occupied areas Jewish properties were sold or rented by the Arab league Nations who controlled. For instance numerous houses in Jerusalem which were owned by Jews were transferred illegally to Arabs. And the actual ownership of their he see properties was always Jewish, and noted in the Land ownership Rolls. Then there were the properties owned by Arabs, and abandoned by those Arabs disloyal to their streets sovereign Znation, and who still live in their properties today, and who are Israeli Arabs, and full citizens of Israel. Then there are the properties regained from illegal Arab sovereignty post 19 years, and those are the lands taken back from Jordan, Egypt and Syria, which had had the Golan alienated from the Jewish Side of the mandatory illegally, and the Syrians had used to attack Jews from since gaining their own So vereignty. Do when you spout about the bs propaganda of “the Israelis “stealing Palestinian” Lands, please recognize this for the bullshit it is. Any Arab who can prove title to Land in Israel, per the Ottoman Land Registration Act, and the Land Sales documented until the end of the Mandatory, the Israelis insure you get it back, unless you are Jewish. If you are a squatter n land not registered to you? You don’t it, and are pretending that you do. And there are a lot of Jew Hate suckers who will always choose to believe the worst of Jews. And that is exploited regularly by Arab Nationslists, and Islamic Supremacists.
@@zeinh6052 What does your Nation do with people who illegally build unsafe and unsanitary non-permitted structures on State owned land they are squatting on? Per the agreements with the Palestinian Authority called the Oslo Accords, Arab “Palestinians” are permitted for buildings at the behest of the PA in areas A and B of Judea/Samaria and Israel does the permitting in area C. The area is heavily seismic, and when buildings with no connections to the potable water sources, or to sewage treatment, these politically motivated buildings, usually paid for by some Jew Hate Organization from Europe which has institutionalized and acculturated Jew Hate even worse than the anti African-American racism in the Americas ever was. Nobody takes any responsibility for what actually happens to the people involved. I know that here in the States if you decide to build your house in a City Park, or in a Freeway Right of Way, it will likely be knocked down by the authorities. Is it any different where you are from? You really should make a visit there and see for yourself. I must say the biggest surprise to me was the Gaza. I expected nothing but shambles like I had seen at Yarmouk, instead I found seaside estates, exquisite hotels, restaurants and a fabulous shopping mall…none of the places I saw there were as bad as a number of big US NDN Reservations. Yup, you really should go there and visit.
No one among the respondents, would honestly volunteer himself to change residence to a Palestinian state of any form, they pretty well know the expected level of conduct of such state, yet they can't say what they honestly grasp, they want to earn from all the worlds, live and benfit from being an Israrli citizens and at the same time to declare oneself being Palestinian, a political entity commited to distruct Israrl state and inherit its Land and acheivments whilst expeling its Jewish population who build and made this state and what it represent
There is no such thing as Israel😂it a Palestinian land. How many time do u people need to hear this. That not your land, it theirland. Imagine stealing someone else country
@@messi-mk3cq There's nothing like Palestinian land. The land of Israel is what the Roman invaders named Palestine just to spite the Jews. That land of Israel was partitioned into Jordan for the Muslim arabs and Israel for the Jews. How many times do we have to drum the truth into your Islamic heads?
@@messi-mk3cqall countries stole other countries’ lands, all of them! The Us, Russia, Turkey, etc! Except jews didn’t Steal anything, they won the land after arabs washed war on Israel, they lost, Israel took the land! Now stop whining and stop trying to Steal the hard work of jews!
+Mike Benmos But the Jordanians did that to the palestinians too, they took all their land east of the Jordan river. Why don't the Jordanians take the palestinians in as citizens? Many would be back in their own homes!
+Abu 'Afak Because the last time they did that, the Fakistinians tried to kill the King of Jordan and steal his country (Black September). The Fakistinians were then expelled to Lebanon, where they did the same thing again, murdering about a million Lebanese Christians in the process.
1) Mark Twain, “ Innocents abroad” : : Palestine is a vast waistline, only imagination can grace this barren land with the pomp of circumstances of life. We travel for a whole day in the Galilee, we didn’t see a human being. His travel through The Holy Land was a “culminating excursion”...……………….. So, the Palestinians are not indigenous to the land...………..
I don't think many of them realize that by taking on Palestinian citizenship instead of Israeli, they would lose many of the benefits that an advanced country like Israel currently provides them.
I genuinely appreciated the extended discussion with the woman in the pink sweater sandwiched in the middle of this video. Someone who is pragmatic and thoughtful. Interesting to me that she indicated that she would like to move to a more secular part of the West Bank. That put things into perspective. She does not have a simplistic and intransigent religious view of the world.
A viable Palestinian state is one that prevents terrorist attacks from originating from its soil. A simple question must be asked to the Arabs: If control of this plot of land is given to you, can you prevent attacks from originating from this area? If so, how?
@@truthseekers864but a viable state would want to do so. If the us found out that a group of our people intended to attack Mexico or Canada or some other country they would do anything it could to prevent it and the participants would be severely punished. If you go anywhere in the west that is true and even in most of Latin America I think that is pretty true. To become a state it's not unreasonable to expect them to move past terrorism
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That young man said it himself, that he has family in Syria and all over the place. That all Arabs are one nation. The new identity of Arab-Palestinian began in the 60’s and was purely a political movement to imply connection to the land when the majority of Arab-Palestinians’ grandparents migrated to the land from other Arab countries in the late 1800s and early 1900s. They’re just one appendage of the Pan-Arab world. Separating them from fellow Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians is a tactic. The older lady talks as if she were around for the 1947 Arab-Israeli war. It’s all very dishonest.
You are perpetrating debunked Zionist myths. Censuses from already the 1700s show that there were over 250,000 people living in Palestine, barely 10,000 of them Jews. That just happened to be the number of Jews living in eastern Europe which by 1940 grew to 7 million. Zionists found some Arabs that migrated from nearby countries and made that into the vast majority, knowing full well that their assertion was a lie. There are censuses from British time that indicate that most "Palestinian Arabs" had generations of ancestors living there. It was the Jews who almost all came from European countries. Some Palestinians had gone for work to Egypt and would return to Palestine but most stayed put. Netanyahu is one of the most shameless liars on the world stage and he never shied away from assuring others about doing things he had no intention to do. Jews left the Holy Land en masse in the 4th-5th century of their own free will and stayed away for 1500 years because life was too hard for them in Palestine. It was easier to live off of the goy. Only when machines appeared did they bother to return. Knowing this then by what right is the land theirs if Palestinians took care of it for centuries?
Conquers your land, then claim that it is theirs a few generations later, ignoring the fact that it was never theirs in the first place. Now that the Israelis have taken it, by their logic after a few generations it should belong to the Israelis.
@@talal-alqahtani but that’s the case. The UN divided the land , israel agree and Palestinians don’t. They attack israel with another arab countries around and israel kicked their ass and took everything she could’ve(like you do in a war)
@@asheralon8142 The UN, newly formed didnt own that land and if you look at the division it unfairly favoured the Israelis giving them most of the fertile land also it wasn’t 50-50 it was weirdly cut into pieces like why not just cut it half etc either way they should have considered the opinion of the population living there for centuries also according to the Geneva convention, international law land occupied during war has to be returned and that’s what happened when France was occupied by Germany etc
@Ivy Malik first of all no one was talking about Pakistan but now that you brought it up although I don’t encourage making countries based on religion only, Pakistan was made for the Muslims of India to due the suppression they experienced by the Hindu majority Pakistan doesn’t s import Muslims from all over the world like Israel does they were actually Muslims from that land that’s why Indian and Pakistanis look so alike and have similar cultures and although religious minorities do not get treated equally in Pakistan, Pakistani Muslims do not purposely try to ‘islamize’ entire neighborhoods by the constant displacement and replacement of people by force, that too so openly kinda disgusting how the world is okay with that also hamas and plo recognize Israel within ‘67 borders althought i don’t agree with the biblical justification provided by Israelis, according to the bible that land belongs to the seeds of Abraham so while Isaac was indeed a seed of Abraham so was Ishmael which is actually mentioned in the bible that he is the seed of Abraham now and while Jews do have a history in that land Palestinians are actually from that land they descendants of the Canaan’s or may actually be the original Jews that may have converted to Christianity and Islam also claiming to ‘return’ after 3500 years which is actually debatable where that land was is no joke if one can ‘return’ after 3500 years than why can’t Palestinians return after just a mere 70 years by Israel’s logic Christianity was born in Jerusalem so all Christians deserve the right to return as well also by that logic muslims that ruled Spain just a mere 300 years ago (vs 3500+ years ago) have the right to return and kick out the native Spaniards from their lands and ethnically cleanse them out of their lands and take over their lands and resources Israel’s agenda is really clear they don’t want peace they want to ethnically cleanse and kick out the indigenous Palestinians and keep it for one people they are using religion as tool to justify their actions but no ‘chosen people’ if truly chosen would never act in such a manner where they act in such a terroristic manner this is terrorism terrorism is not defending your land family and resources internationally you are allowed to defend yourself and your family from any oppressive force also even in Judaism it says thou shall not steal thou shall not murder but that is exactly what Israel does EVERY SINGLE DAY that’s why some real Jews and Israelis actually oppose what Israel does on a daily basis as a colonial settler regime anyways if Israel has the right to exist (which it really doesn’t ngl) then so does Palestine has a right to come into statehood also I don’t have time to argue with an idiot the truth is I just replied to your initial point and proved you wrong about getting land based on war and now that you were proved wrong you have no other point besides saying the the Arabs belong to Arabia lol no logic whatsoever did you even know that Arabs are even different based on culture?? Haha and you are basically okay with defying international law now that it’s not in Israel’s favour so much hypocrisy 😂😂😂 go learn how to be human and come up with valid points for your argument 😂😂😂 #istandwithhumanity #freepalestine #endoccupation #endapartheid
Because they call the entire colonised land Palestina. To do what the romans did, to remove any Jewish relation to the land. All colonisers do. All criminal do this, to remove all evidence of their crimes
Question: would she like to live under a Palestinian Islamic State? Funny how she can behave like this in a liberal Israeli democracy but yearns for another type of government. Find any Muslim majority country where you'd rather live? Even they wouldn't, that's why they come all over here to the West.
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I thought there is an arab muslim who is currently one of the supreme court judges in Israel; not only that, I understand that he did send a jewish ex president to jail.
enas batta Israel is 3000 years old and 67 years young. "Palestine" were a Greek people annihilated 2500 years ago. You can also live in any place from where your ancestors came.
***** Really....... so does that mean the Yids can move back to East Europe, their true homeland and Moroccans back to Morocco and Persians back to Iran and Iraqi back to Iraq........and the Palestinians back to Palestine........great....so much for ZioNazism. PS.......since there is no nationality for religions your mythical [non]people with their crippled history will have to settle for Israeli..... which isn't recognized in a Jewish state....Hehe
There is no such thing as "Palestinians" nor the origin of Arabs currently occupying the land of Israel has anything to do with this land. Arabs are immigrants and foreigners in the land of Israel whose origin dates back to over 20 Arab and Islamic country. Israel was recognized by entire interrnational community as it is, based on its declaration of independence and basic laws, 66 years ago.
Palestine is judea, renamed palestine in 134 ad by a roman emperor to punish the jews for a revolt during the roman empire, Judea means land of the jews. These people repeat things they know nothing about, Most muslims moved to palestine in the 1880s, there are jews that have never left the area and their ancestors have been there for thousands of years. Even the older muslims in the region didnt move there til around the period of the muslim conquest in 638ad. Even the Quran talks about israel and says it is the land of the jews and that the jews have the right to enforce the laws in their land, these are the written words of the profett muhamed. Not only do they not know their history I doubt they study their religion. She is right her ancestor may bave been there, but israel and the jews have been there much longer. Israel have multiple times agreed that they should form their own state in the region, but they dont accept it, they want the entire region and believe it should all be a muslim state without israel, even though the jews in that regions are as much from that region and they are. The only difference is that they made a state, palestinians have failed that, And naming you country and your people after the region palestine, when all jews are palestinian themselves, does not make the land theirs. Dont forget palestine the name was originated from a jewish word that meant intruder, which is what they called the filistines, a crete civilization that invaded judeah and waged war on the jews then left and disapeared. The roman emperor to further punish the jews not only renamed the region in order to remove the jewish identity from the name but they named it after the jews historical enimies, the filistines.
That Arab woman is insane. Like the men in a Palestinian state would allow her to be apart of anything other then having children, cooking and cleaning. A lot of mental gymnastics in this video
Shahira is clueless. She wants to be a part of building a state? Show me an Arab nation where women are equal in rights and allowed to be a part of the leadership? In Palestine she will be forced to wear a hijab, asked to stay home and raise a family. If she is such a feminist woman, does she recognise the lack of freedom women in Gaza live under? Does she realise that if she speaks against it and fights for equal rights she's likely to be thrown into jail or worse, shot? She is clueless and speaks freely because she lives in Israel. She's not aware of her privilege, provided by the Israeli state.
The 2nd lady says 'the conditions on the west bank and in gaza are not that good', and I feel she hopes they will get better. she would not live there because of the conditions being so bad. So obviously for all of us human, the conditions on the west Band and in Gaza need to get better.
@@FirstLast-ox1vj Well we can start with Abu Mazen and his sons.www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg74960/html/CHRG-112hhrg74960.htm www.spectator.co.uk/article/corruption-affects-everything-in-Palestine-even-vaccines
Bad is of course, comparative. But while I know a whole lot of Arabs who don't like Israel, their cousins there have it far better than under the PA and Hamas Kleptocracies.
I don't understand the argument of land ownership.... The universe is billions of years old... The earth is hundreds of millions years old... Human life may live up to a century... We are born from dust and all will become dust .. as a result we own nothing... Let's just travel and live in peace.
Here's the real answer for anyone interested in it: the people who should be asked the question are the Arabs living in towns and villages along the Israeli-Palestinian border. When asked if they would like the border to be moved so they that their town becomes part of the Palestinian state (without being moved from their homes) they are terrified at the possibility. And this is supposedly their dream... not! They prefer to stay under Israeli rule than live under their brothers' rule. Arab-Israeli author Sayed Kashua even wrote a novel about it: Let There Be Morning. Look it up.
The first person, you have interviewed many times. Why always choose her? Then most of the interview is to that social activist lady talking "you don't need lieberman or bibi". Why not just choose more of the ordinary people and also not the same people all the time.
Israel is their home. Many Israeli Palestinians won't feel at home anymore in a Palestinian state, especially the youth and those who integrated for some extent. Why would they leave, unless they are nationalist like the lady at 3:37? About the racism rising up in Israel, it's hard for the whole Israeli left wing as it is for the Israeli Palestinian. In critical times, I believe that the political power of the left, the center and the Israeli Palestinians will cooperate, like they did about the racist "national law" that the right wing tried to make. So there is no need to worry about that, just use your voting rights and it will keep you safe from Netanyahu, Lieberman and Bennett.
there was nothing "racist" about national law per se. It's already de facto and de jure since the country's inception. The problem is that, as you see in this video, the younger Arabs feel very strongly one way and that was doesn't seem very peaceful, IMO
***** It is complicated. The Israeli-arab political power is formed from 4 parties, "Hadash" - left wing, "Raam" - Islamic party, "Taal" - arab center party, and "Balad" - right wing nationalist arab party. The last three do not support any Israeli government, left wing or right wing, and by that helping the right wing many times, because the left wing most of the time can't form a coalition without them. Hadash, the left wing arab party, supported the government of Yitzhak Rabin and willing to support very left wing and peaceful governments, which from their perspective, Rabin's government was the only one of that kind.
***** As far as I know, it's Hadash who didn't want to join the coalition but to support it from outside. I don't know how did you got to the conclusion that it is the left wing that do not wants the arab parties in the coming government. The only party that could support a left wing coalition, beside Hadash, which is "Taal", said very clear that they won't support any government until the end of the occupation. I'll give you an example that make it very clear. You can have an agreement in israel between two parties that if one of them gets for example 2.2 sits and the other gets 3.8 then the second one will take the 0.2 and have 4 sits. Hertzog, the head of the labor party, that has that agreement with Meretz, offered that in order that the union of the arabs parties and "Yesh Atid", the center-left party will be able to enjoy that chance, he will make this agreement with Yesh Atid, and Meretz will make it with the arab's union. Yesh Atid and Meretz agreed, The Arab union rejected it, specially the members of Balad, because Meretz is mainly a jewish party, even though ideologically it's not far from Hadash. They actually preferred to maybe get fewer sits than sign an agreement with Meretz, a really far left party, so we can stop fantasize about them supporting the Labor's coalition. About Balad, they are very much right wing, beside hanin zoabi feminist issue. and very nationalists. For example, they criticized Mahmoud Abbas for cooperating with the Israeli government in preventing terrorism, calling him "a traitor". And Rabin fight very hard and bravely for peace before he was murdered, like no other prime minister before hin or after him.
Hertzog is promising to try his best to get to an agreement with the man you call a traitor and the PA, in order to end the occupation, have peace and a Palestinian state. He won't end the occupation without an agreement, but won't play games like Netanyahu. So you got 3/4 Arabs parties that made it very clear that they won't support any government, and you keep blaming Hertzog, that didn't agree to say he won't ask them to join when he was asked to? Hadash did want to sign with Meretz, So did Taal, and even Raam, the islamic party, was convinced to support that agreement. It was only Balad that prevented it, while they was OK to run in the same list with Hadash, because they are mostly Arabs, but not to sign an agreement with Meretz, because they are mostly jewish. Your opinions about the situation is very radical and problematic, you are definitely not on the left side. I'm myself a radical left winger, I stand against the apartheid in the West Bank, and trying my best to reach a solution. I wants the Palestinians to have a state in 67 borders and the racism in Israel to end, and my criticism of the Arab parties, from my point of view, is an inner criticism. Balad was revealed as racists for rejecting the agreement and so I stand against them just like I do against Netanyahu, Lieberman and Barnett.I even considered to vote for the arab's union party, because of Ayman Uda, the head of Hadash and of the union, that represent my opinion better than Meretz, but I can't because of Balad's part in the union, and because it will weaken the chance for left wing government.
***** About Gideon's article, I already read it, and I do not agree. Abbas is the best leader the Palestinians ever had. All the arabs leaders are "dictators", but I really believe in moderation and it is clear that the moderation of Abbas contributed to the Palestinian struggle for ending the occupation much more than Hamas or Arafat. it's contributed me and a lot of Israelis to the struggle, and a lot of people in the world. imprisons people who intended to murder people is a noble thing and save a lot of lives, Palestinians lives as well. About the territory of the Palestinian state, I will support dismantling all the settlements and getting back to 67 borders, but I don't think it is going to happen. I believe that some of the settlements will be dismantled, but the agreement will include land swaps, while every inch that was stole by the settlements policy will have to be returned by Israeli land, and east Jerusalem will be part of Palestine. About Hamas, I really hope it will be part of the agreement, yet as far as I know, Hamas goal is to kick all the jews out of this land and not peace with Israel and a Palestinian state in 67 borders. If Hamas will be part of the agreement I will be more than happy, yet we should not let them preventing the end of the occupation with their fanaticism.
im so confused, so the israeli government aproached that lady to give her citenzship and benifits but also discriminates againts non jews? also does she really think hamas would even consider having her in any position of leadership in shariah law?
The woman who was suggesting there could be two passports is like the Quebecois who when confronted with the reality of losing their Canadian passport rejected independence . She didn’t want to live under Palestinian government or live without the rights and benefits of Israeli society. She deftly steered away from that question. She wants everything.
Except for the ones who like Israel and don't want to change, the people seemed confused. They have no conception of what a "Palestinian" is or what a Pal state is. You could have asked if they'd go to live in Gaza, which IS a Pal state carved out of Israel. Or Jordan. They are acting like it is an ideal, not a reality existing close by which they can look at to as a way to see the likely outcome of yet another Muslim state. Such states are not as beneficial as what Israel is giving them. The other take-away for me was the confusion and lack of understanding as to what Palestine was in history. It was mostly a Jewish homeland, and there never was an Arab country there. But these kids have been fed the lie that it was their homeland. They don't get that Palestine had a different meaning pre-1948. Jerusalem was in Palestine and my old Shabbat school books called the homeland Palestine. It had meaning only for Jews and no one else. This is clearly not being told to them and thus the confusion. But the confusion is not going to help in the cause for peace.
Because they refused, as did their Actual Arab/Islamist Supremacist grandparents to accept that WW1 actually happened, and that you can live by International Laws made as the result of the Ottoman Sultanate’s choices or think you can claim sovereignty over lands that haven’t been under Arab Rule (excepting the 19 years of illegal Arab Occupation) since 1077 CE. Arabs have been given autonomy in the PA which is the Gaza, and areas A and B in Judea/Samaria. Jews didn’t ethnically cleanse the lands they were given by the League of Nations as the Arabs did to their resident Jews. From places where Jews had lived long before the Arab Invasions in the MENA. I just wish the Arab Nationalists/Islamist Supremacists didn’t keep their propaganda machine narrative lying to their own. They victimize their own grass roots folks far more than the Israeli Druze Border Patrols, or the IDF has. I always wonder if the Arab Palestinians actually b Lieberman that Jordan, Syria Or Egypt would allow them to actually create another failed Arab State…or just take the land, as they did in 1948. They could have created another Arab State then with the stolen Israeli territories, but they didn’t.
There’s no such thing as a Palestinian nation. Those people are just Arabs who lived in an area. They didn’t belong to any specific nation. Talks of Palestinian as a nation only occurred after they realized for PR reasons that it benefited them to defeat the Jewish state of Israel. It’s really sad these people lack basic history. There’s never been in the history of mankind a land in the holy land made or governed by Palestinians. Please name a time where there’s been... I’m waiting
Cory should ask the question....what if Palestine becomes a state and demands all Arabs come back home? Would they go and help build palestine into a better place with what knowledge they have about Israel...the things they like if any? They have a choice on where they want to live but what if they had to make a choice?
Is really nice that the Israel Arabs have a choice. These interviewed Arabs give me a laugh. Of course they would never want to live in Palestine over Israel. Who are they kidding? They can choose to stay in Israel or Palestine I saw a video where every single person on the streets of Palestine were asked if there was a war and Palestine won could the Jews still live there? The answer was NO, NO, NO. NO and even if they were born in Israel they are outsiders They don't want them in Israel because it is Arab land. They wanted all the Jews ousted and they didn't care where they went.
Carolina Leaman And yet after the 6 Day War when Israel won all the land from the Arab countries they fought, they gave Gaza, the West Bank, and Golan heights back to the Palestinians.
let me give you a very good example. In the 80s some communist party leaders in Iran moved to Soviet Unions to live in their ideal state and under the authority of their favorite government. The shock caused by the incredible gap between their expectations and the shocking reality of the Soviet Union led many to disillusionment, severe mental crises, and depression. Some of them committed suicide. Dissatisfied with the party and the Soviet Union, and sometimes the majority organization, were not only deprived of all their basic rights but some were imprisoned and inhumanely punished.
@Dark_Lord why are you saying nazis? Anyway they are already here. If they’d move to the Palestinian authority it’ll be hamas and fatah as it seems. You gotta separate the Palestinians within Israel.. it might help you
....but history says and fact says - there has never been a Palestinian State. There is also really no Palestinian people. There are only 2 people in the area...Jew or Arab. The word Palestine is not even from the area. Palestine is Greek word. Ancient romans pinned the name on the Land of Israel in 135CE after stamping out Judea second insurrection , the Romans renamed the Province Syria Palestina. to punish the Jews. The term Palestine was use over a millennia without a precise geographical location. No Nation ever had that name or ever existed. Palestine is a geogrphical area without prcise boundaries because it is not a nation. Just like the sahara dessert...its just geagraphical area. Dictionary says Palestine is a region in SW Asia at the end of the miderranean comprising of 3 nations. Israel, Jordan and Egypt....Lebanon came later as the only Christian state in the middle east. Yasser Arafat and the PLO destroyed that nation and became a haven for terrorism in September 1970.
Please listen carefully! --- All these people state clearly that they are Arabs. And they are right. Arab citizens in Israel are not compelled to serve in the IDF but they are not excluded either. Unlike the Jewish Israelis, the Arab citizens have a choice.
If they had a choice they would be able to get citizenship, not just apply and wait for years.
they do have a citizenship though?@@corndoggydogdog
Sembra che tu non sappia che in Israele gli arabi con cittadinanza israliana hanno meno diritti degli ebrei...non gli fanno prestare servizio nell'IDF perchè non si fidano.
This is what lacks in the whole narrative. It’s so easy to see yet so many people are just blind about this fact. Israel want to drop their weapons but can’t, Palestine don’t want to drop their weapons but can.
@@Darduel
Some of them do, but many don't and it takes years to get citizenship and many never get a response back from the gov. There is a purposefully imposed limit on the number of Palestinians able to get citizenship annually.
Perhaps you think it's fair that Zionist Jews across the world get a preference for citizenship via the birthright scheme as opposed to the native Palestinians?
My relatives in Israel are Christians besides a few minor incidents they had little problem with jewish Israelis , mostly their lives in Israel has been better than our lives in Canada they have plenty of land in Nazareth built a hotel with money given from the church and a loan from the Israeli government and their are rumours both debts were forgiven , today they are millionaires prospering in Israel while our side of the family that left to Canada are middle class with a few well off , my grandfather before he passed said his biggest mistake was leaving Israel
Very interesting. Good to hear that Christians have a presence in Nazareth
When I was there I could hardly tell a Jew from an Arab, creating a couple of slightly embarrassing mixups
@@bdadolph They don't look any different. That's why the extreme leftist view of Israelis being white and Arabs being brown is kind of ridiculous... anyone who actually visits Israel can see it with their own eyes.
@@bdadolphbecause they are brothers. Their DNA Is similar. This war is a fratricidal war. Jesus is depicted white like snow , blonde and blue eyes. Back then, a Middle East person was hardly like that. But hey, we all love fairytales !!!😂
@@JustMe99999 exactly
Arab Israelis are free to move to the Palestinians Authority anytime they want.
But they won't because we have free education, free medical care, freedom of religion, press, and speech.
We have democracy - something the PA, even if it were to become a state, will never have.
Yet, they are oppressed
just saying they are oppressed doesn't mean anything, because you are just making stuff up. how exactly are they opressed? not only the have the same rights at israel as the jews, they have even more privileges than jewish citiezns, why cant jews or christians visit the temple mount at jerusalem?, the holiest site for the jewish religion, only muslims can. keep in mind that all of jerusalem including the temple mount is in control of israel, and israel allows only muslim to visit the temple mount. yet they are the ones who are oppressed. get some knowledge before making empty claims please
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Where is this democracy that everyone is talking about? I don't see any reasonable voices in Israel that someone who doesn't belong to Zionist movement can feel represented or heard. Let's say, hypothetically some Jewish person woke up and decided to be an Atheist. What options do they even have if they wanted to remove the Jewishness of the nation?. Israel is a nation always at war with everything that is different. I don't see any possible way Israel is a democracy unless it maintains a Jewish majority actively so. There is no right of return to Arabs. Yet I see some active immigration for all "Jews" from all around the world.
@@amzraptor are you dumb? The all idea of israel and zionism is to build a state for the jews so they would not have tk suffer anti semiticim. You think it is not ok that israel identity is jewish? When the state is for jews? Btw there are many voices in israel who dont belong ot zionism. Look up who Ahmed Tibi is, he is in the knesset and he practicly support only palestine and support hamas. How is that not democrcy when you let even terror supporters try to have a political group? There is also no one who is forced to be religious be law in israel threre are some rules that support judaishm but what do expect there to be in a also jewish state which is a place for jews?
@@amzraptor
Well an Arab judge have sent our president to jail, there are Arabs in the Israeli parlament, there are meny honorable Arab doctors, Arabs integrated in high positions in Israel they enjoy freedom od speech, things that Arabs from other countries can only dream about
@12:45 She says "Originally it was Palestine". Actually, originally it was Israel. Then the Romans invaded. Then the Persians invaded. Then the Arabs invaded. Then the Crusaders invaded.
It's extraordinary that a university-educated person in Israel can be so ignorant of history
+LordHealey typic arab bs
+LordHealey So Americans who had English ancestors don't belong in North America? If tomorrow Italians for example are invading US and they say that their religion or their roots are the same as the Native Americans would you step aside and leave them your country? Stop with the nonsense, zionists came and took something by force because people ( not even their ancestors for a lot of them) were there 2000 years before. Palestine, including today Israel belong to Palestinians, whether they are jews, muslims or christians. Zionists should be kicked out, Netanyahu, Sharon and the others judged in another Nuremberg tribunal and jews would live in Palestine as Palestinians or guests if they come from another country like Poland. Unfortunately, some palestinians don't make the difference between jews, zionists or israelis. Hard to blame them when Israelis killers are saying they are jews. But fortunately, a lot of jews and even some israelis, whether they were here before Israel creation or not are showing they are good people and hate their government.
+LordHealey lol but wasn't it ammorite before?
Ammorite state-solution now!
What originally it was? When u were slaves of pharon ???!!! There is overlapping in population in middle east . ... but really I want to say .. hitler burn u , but u revenge from cousins
LordHealey actually originally it was Cana'an.
13:11 I don’t hear them telling Jordan that their territory was called Palestine too.
Very hypocritical argument.
I would look into what Zuheir Mohsen said in 1977 and what Hafez al Assad said to Arafat.They know this whole "Palestinian" thing is fictitious .They have aspirations of a Palestinian state expanding into Israel as you can hear at 0:50 They hope to take Israel and then unite with the other surrounding arab states because "we muslims are one nation" (as you can hear in this video around 15:51-16:14 they all say it) and as soon as that were to happen they would stop calling themselves "Palestinians" and return to just being Muslim arabs like they considered themselves to be before 1948 .That's why you don't hear them telling Jordan that their territory was called Palestine. There's no need,it's already theirs,they are the Jordanians,Syrians,Egyptians,Lebanese .Take a look at their last names
Israeli Palestinians wont move out from Israel because they are enjoying the freedom and comfort of Israael and yet they are ungrateful and keep on ranting against Israel.
Well said
grimaldi25 Just like the ungrateful blacks in the U.S.
grimaldi25 ofcourse they will rant against a government that oppresses the poor to serve the rich. no hypocrisy in that.
ShinigamiUzi over thousands of years.. sure. They came for work in the 19th century. Go back to Egypt sweetie
grimaldi25 they’re getting something bc all our tax is getting sent to Israel. They have too much money and clean water who wouldn’t be buzzing? but then again they’d rather live in a Palestine state bc Muslims do things in a halal way, much safer! Muslims, Christians and Jews have been living side by side peacefully for centuries until the Zionist destroyed the Middle East twelcome the Anti-Christ
I feel like a lot of these young people have been fed a romanticized view of nationalism, and will be very disappointed once they actually moved to a Palestinian state. Or if Israel became Palestine. One even mentioned feeling like an outsider in the West Bank.
I don't think they realize just how much Israel's liberal, secular values have influenced them. But they will if they choose to live in a closed-off, Islamic culture.
+Yvonne Hoff exactly what i was thinking. im an arab israeli citizen and i would much rather live in israel, where life is more advanced and we have exactly the SAME FUCKING RIGHTS as jewish citizens. plus i feel a lot more connected to israel and israeli culture and society then i would for example in the west bank. id feel out of my depth and like an outsider in Palestinian territory areas or in Gaza for example.
+zmanafacation You're the perfect example of what happens when people stop allowing religion(and other differences) to interfere with getting along. If others just saw themselves as human beings instead of Jewish or Muslim, it could work over there. It's encouraging to see an example of progress/integration over there. Thanks for that.
mytube2010a thank you,but to be fair it would understandably be harder for Israeli Arabs who live in Arab towns and villages to share my views or to be able to integrate or even have the motivation to integrate into Israeli society. i grew up in a mixed city where jews, arab christians and muslims live and work with eachother, so i had it pretty easy.
its harder for those who dont have real and constant interaction with the other side.
95notoriousBIG Jews and Muslims didn't live "in peace". Jews lived as second-class citizens, subject to the violent whims of Muslims. Your "fact" is historical revisionism.
And Palestinians who live in Israel (the demographic addressed in this video) absolutely do have a good life. They have full equal rights under the law. The people in this video have not had any of their property or land stolen. This is about who they wish to govern them politically.
+95notoriousBIG That smell is your upper lip.
One thing is for sure: a Palestinian state will not be a democracy. Israeli Arabs may choose to move and live there, but they will soon understand that it is better and safer to live in a strong democracy like Israel. Many of them understand it even now, seeing Hamas's fascist theocracy in Gaza.
I really dont think it will be controlled by hamas. They will find their way to a strong democracy as well.
Sure, like all those other muslim states did... oh wait.
Valery Ivanishin palestine is nothing alike "other states" they are a democratic population believe it or not. if you go to West bank you'll see how much organized they are even with all adversities. And the most importante thing that people doesnt notice, palestinians doesn really give a fuck about your religion, as long as there are lots of christians palestinians. is not a religion conflict but a geopolitical issue. ps: People really believe that israel is a democratic Paradise.. they arrest people that protest against its own governement. there a lot of activists killed by IDF and lots of american jews arrested only for protesting with palestinians (peacefully)
@@ibelongtotheworld1578
That is why they have no Humen right? Freedom of speach? Gay rights? Women rights?
Stop lying! There is not one Arab country with true democracy and Humen rights!!!
@@adish7275
Thats what they thoght in Gaza.
There is not one Arab country with true democracy! FACT!
They don't want to lose the benefits* of Israeli society but don't want to admit it. *That includes the culture and values of Israeli society. Especially for women, I can hardly imagine wanting to live in an Islamic culture.
+R. Chatt The benefit is $30 billion per year of USA subsidies of Israel -- $30,000 per year per Israeli, without that subsidy Israel would be a 3rd world hell hole. Those are the facts.
Palestinians aren’t only muslims!
And you have a huge misconception about muslims .
Islam actually give women their rights!
And how women are treated in Ashdod ? Liar !!!
They will not leave historical palestine
@@Sk-sllk
Women are treated well in secular Islam. Like Iran under the Shah emirate.
Under the Sharia they are second class citizens.
A better question to ask an Israeli Arab is this: If, within the context of an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement, you were allowed to vote whether your town or village could choose to be part of the Israeli state or the Palestinian state, how would you vote?
Israel was the common answer in previous surveys.
an excellent tough question, most of us will probably vote "to be part of the Israeli state"
@@b3rfshmeenana790 sorry for asking but are you muslim, Christian or Durzi ?
And why would you choose Israel over Palestine ?
Sorry, you either chose to be Jordanian or Israeli. No voting involved. The League of Nations broke up the Ottoman Turkish Land Empire, unless a subject people such as Kurds, Jews, Arabs pled their cases at the San Remo Conference, and got a majority of the 51 Members to vote your way, oh well. The Arabs were given 5 mandated Nation States to be. The fact that the Levantine Mandatory Arabs and their Leader, Amin al Husayni refused to enter a Mandate Agreement in 1922, pretty much ended that. They certainly accepted Jordanian Citizenship while on illegally occupied by Arab League Nations Territory. It was only when the “Palestinian” Arabs tried to take control of Jordan, again seeking to rewrite history, that King Hussein turned his Pak Mercs loose on the PLO. Called Black September”. Th LoN gave Arabs the Lions share of Ottoman Lands, but the Arabs want it all and a new Caliphate. Loyal Israeli Arabs ARE Israelis. Full Citizens and th right to be such. Just as Druse, Samaritan, Circassian et al Israelis are. And god help the Jews if they don’t have h leavening of “Others” amongst hem. They are oils tear themselves to pieces arguing with each other….
batshit crazy
interesting how some people forget that "Palestine" was never a country but a region of some empire or another. For hundreds of years it belonged to the ottomans than to the brits, than it went to Israel Jordan and Egypt, than it became Israel, than it became Israel with Palestinians having a self government-ish, than Gaza Israel and Palestinians with a self government-ish in the west bank.
Your "Israel" was a lot smaller in 1947 than it is now, and Palestine was a lot bigger...
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Do you know that before 1947, many Jews are living in Palestine. Jews are also Palestinians. Palestine are mostly undeveloped before 1947.
Actually Jews always lived there. Pali' Arabs showed up not that long ago coming from the near by Arab countries. This Arab migration was assisted and encouraged by the Brits in the region who did not give two shits about the objections of the Jews who were originally there and were the actual local population.
SolAlbus Most of the israelis are Iraqi jews, they got kicked out of Iraq and moved to palestine, dont talk about bullshit you dont know about
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Iraqi Jews are Sephardic and they are not "most of the Israelits" but part of the Jews and not the biggest part of the Sephardic Jews either. Also those very Iraqi Jews you are referring to are white - I actually met some of those people. Also while you had Jewish diaspora coming to Israel from different places there were also Jews who always lived in Israel and never left - maybe not a large number yet it is a fact that they were always there. So I actually do know what I am talking about, you on the other hand talking shit out of your ass and reciting Hamas propaganda - Hamas made up their own version of history which is being taught to pali Arabs and popularised as propaganda on the global networks. There are actual Pali Arabs who talk about this issue today. You were brainwashed and you don't even know it.
obiously no arab would move out of Israel. we all see how people are treated all over the middle east.
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Yes, he is calling their Bluff! :-)
We can't be saparated, they're part of us. Our partners in economy structures, businesses(my family's business partner is a palestinian)
all over the middle east? You mean Iran, which is not even Arab. Where else do they get treated badly?
I'm so sorry you're not able to travel the Middle East, foreigners are partying in Dubai living the life, go enjoy your little broken Israel!
Have you ever been to the middle East?? Go see for yourselves . In most of the countries you are safer than many so called developed country. Just travel once there. Don't just spit whatever you see on the news.
Not one of these Israeli/Arabs would move to Gaza or the West Bank. They know they have it good in Israel.
Except for the Jewish settlers in the West Bank!
i would like to know if they wanne life in a democracy or under sharia law
+Larrypint Wow this is a good question
+Larrypint Great question. simple, straightforward, making them nowhere to hide.
mike jones Most of the christian arabs like to call themselves "Israelis" ans not palestinians.
+Lenny G Half of Lebanon is Christian! the president of Lebanon is Christian and they consider themselves arabs. They call themselves lebanese, not israelis. Granted... that and the poor copts in egypt are all that's left. Turkey used to be all christian, now they're 98% muslim. Otherwise, christians don't live well in muslim countries.
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you mean christian arabs from westbank for example? you cant generalize that.
Hypocrites! They know how good they have it. They refuse to move under the pretext that they where born in a non-existent state (a state that will never include Israel proper). It's not hard saying that they won't move because Israel proper should be included in Palestine, because they know it's virtually impossible that it will never occur.
I live in Canada. I was born 60 kilometers where I live. To put this in context, this is approximately twice the distance from Jerusalem to Hebron.
I could not agree with you more. The people being interviewed are all hypocrites. Let us see what they really feel if Palestine demanded that all Arabs are called to move back home by Palestinian decree. These people never had it so good and don't want to live under any Muslim law. So they have reconciled in their minds that Israel is really Palestine and its Arab land anywy....so there!!!!!! This way they have an upscale modern life with better opportunities for their families but professing to the Palestinians they are only grinning and bearing it.
@Mister Dude Let’s try a different approach. What would you see done?
A two state solution does not provide security guarantees that Israelis require, and deserve. Israelis are predominantly born in Israel, and the notion that they’ll move away to make you feel better is preposterous. Like it or not, the Palestinians are playing with an empty hand.
If Israel was indeed an evil oppressive apartheid state, then Arab citizens of Israel who suffer from it, would have wanted to move the just 1km to 20km to live under the PA.
NTM Any Arb citizen of Israel would want annexation of his town to a future Palestinian state if any such would be created, not fight against such annexation as they do.
apartheid is that simple.
That is not apartaid ir is just a matter of security for the Israel people. Now it is clear that they were right about it. Those crazy and barbaric people that name themselves palwstins are really dangerous antiseptic
@@waltonsmith7210what is the legal definition of apartheid? If you are going to accuse millions of people of such a crime surely you can give me the definition of it under international law right?
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If Israel was apartheid then they would not allow Arabs to live in Israel as Israeli citizens with all the privileges that brings.
And there we have it at the beginning; e lady clearly stated that she had RIGHTS in Israel, and not in the West Bank.
She also called for an end to the occupation.
I hope all the world see how they are lie, they say free palestin, but they want to stay in israel, beacose they know israel is great for them
I'd rather stay in Israel. Let's be real, living in Israel is much more better than living in a Muslim or an Arab country. It's like telling an American if they'd like to move to Syria.
Only because Israel is supported by the 'blind' deluded Christian Zionists in America and their belief in some of the texts in the New Testament, ie. Revelations which is a book written for the people of the time.
@Peselo The average west banker doesn't earn 81,000. If you take into account that the GDP per capita of Palestine is only a 13th of Israeli, even if you exclude gaza it doesn't come close. I think I've seen your source and the problem with it is that relies on a few cases and they are self-proclaimed, not government statistics.
@Peselo edited my comment, was a typo. But I mean, think about it, the country with the second highest average salary in the world is Iceland, and it only earns 70,000$
@Peselo even if you exclude all the population of gaza but include the total income they bring to Palestine you'll still get a GDP per capita of 4,568 dollars, whereas Israel has 41,715
Here is a more reliable source:
"The average daily wage for wage employees in the West Bank was 98.1 NIS"
source: www.pcbs.gov.ps/portals/_pcbs/PressRelease/Press_En_16-12-2017-LF-en.pdf
I don't care how do you call it -- Israel or Palestine ...I will stay here as long as it is a democratic country where I feel free and able to feed and raise my children in a safe society with a quality education and human rights..
I think that question should be asked of the Arab Muslims. If the choice was a Palestinian state under Hamas or sharia law with strong ties to Iran would they choose to move there or stay in Isreal under democracy with full rights and citizenship? I'm going to guess that those that have lived under democracy would choose to stay. That's just a guess though, I could be very wrong
So not a Muslim country then.
@@leonardstein5245israel treats them as second class citizens.
@docorwhatever2168 treats Muslim citizens as second class? Really? You think the Supreme Court is second class? Because there's a Muslim in the Supreme Court today in Isreal. And no they don't treat Muslims or any of their other non Jewish citizens as second class.
@@docorwhatever2168Please elaborate as to how they're being treated as second class citizens?
You can't, cause they're not.
I don't quite understand this dispute. There's a Palestinian state on the east side of Jordan.
Created a year before and four times larger than Israel. 1946, 89000 sq km. No matter how many Palestian states will be created, they will still want one more. I'm sure you understand now :)
It's funny all the Arab Israelis keep saying Israel came to them, they didn't come to Israel. The land never had Arabs before the Islamic/Arab Conquests. So the Arabs/Muslims came to Israel. Not the other way around.
All Arabs are not Muslims. Many of the Mazrahi/ Sephardi people are Jewish and have followed Judaism for a long time. However, many of these Ashkenazis are converts to Judaism and they are mostly European. Their Genetics prove that they are 70% European and 30 % middle eastern Jew. However, I feel all Jews are equal. My family is Arab Jew. I use to live in Israel but my family all moved to the US.
Baber Gill Lol no. Genetics says otherwise. You are more than likely picking out a single genetics test that supports what you are saying. However, the vast majority of genetic tests show that Ashkenazi Jews are mostly Middle Eastern. Science doesn't rely on a single test. It takes many tests to form a conclusion. And that conclusion is that Ashkenazi Jews, and most Jews in the world (with the exception of obvious converts, Beta Israel, etc) are all mostly majority Middle Eastern ancestry.
And I didn't say all Arabs are Muslim. Why do you think I put Arab/Muslims?
Palestinians are the “kinaan nation” originally but after the islamic conquest and Mixing with Arabs through trade and marriage they became all arabs
Baber Gill actually ashkenazi jews are 95% Semitic. Liar. Good thing you moved out of israel with that khazar theory bullshit
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No... they are not, this is just another fictional history that people fabricated, no one that we know of today is connected to the canaanites, the "palestinians" are just arabs that came during the british empire from neighboring countries like egypt and jordan.
Also, the "palestinians" didn't even exist as a group until 67.
The problem with most of those Arabs is that they want to have their cake and east it too. They want to have a country that is called Palestine while presuming it'll have all the same rights and benefits they currently enjoy under Israel but with the country's name Palestine and with Arabs as its title nation. When the man begins to hint regarding the actual conditions that such hypothetical country will have - which are the same like the currently autonomous regions such as Gaza strip for example where people have real health care/insurance, no social insurance, no normal infrastructure and human rights while lacking many other elements and freedoms that the democratic Israeli model currently provides - those guys say "wait a minute". That's the issue here. That also tells you that this is not about coexistence for them. They say "we consider Israel to be Palestine, all of it is our land.." and so on. They don't recognise Israel's right to exist and the fact that this is a Jewish land. But at the same time they do enjoy their freedoms. This is dishonest in a sense, and two faced. Also I have a bit of an issue with the way the interviewer conducts the interview. He asks his questions with some kind of uncertainty - not sure how to describe it - almost as if he is careful not to offend someone's feelings. You are asking a specific question that pertains to specific issues. Ask straight forward as is, with confidence. If someone finds it offensive they will decline to respond or tell you their feelings are hurt. But adequate people will simply answer by expressing their opinion. When you're being a bit careful as you are you are confusing people - both the viewer who's watching the videos and the people you are interviewing. Many of them got mixed up not because their English is weak, but because of the way you were asking the questions - even when you were asking them in Hebrew. Some of them were not so bright though, this too is a factor.
I mean.. literally Israel provided all that and built all that and they wouldn't be possible ever to built any society there and their population will ve fightig malaria. Their mindset is total tribalism, and what unites them is antisemitism.
Could anyone refresh my mind, as to who was president of Palestine before Yasser Arrafat in 1948?? Heh?
lucifer
+jerry robin
Bam. Just like that. ...and 'checkmate.'...
Though I do have to be fair here, there were a lot of Arabs already living in that land at the time, who were removed from their homes, even _if_ there was no "Palestinian" or otherwise much less Arab controlled state.
+DerBlitzStag true, no Israeli prime ministers but plenty of Jewish kings of the two jewish Kingdoms of Israel and Judah. Including King David and King Solomon...no palestinian kings, presidents, prime ministers or any other heads of state ever existed until Arafat. Why? because there was never a palestinian state...checkmate.
+Bentunes U dumb fuckhole, the people who lived in that land were palestinian, who gives a fuck about what religion they had or what name their kingdom was called? fuck your checkmate
Sharif Radwan It seems to me that when a person has no command of language, are vulgar, ignorant and uniformed, have no integrity and are hidden by anonymity they write all kinds of vulgar trash. It's laughable and also very very sad at the same time.
Yet again a very honest and interesting video
The utube videos cheering for genocide are a disgrace.
Please ask Gaza/West Bank arabs and/or arab israelis what arabs (so called palestines) have done for peace.
Please ask your Zionist leader how they kill the potentials for peace. heck..I am not even Arab and i have all the facts.
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How, by giving them Gaza so Hamas can fire more rockets into Israel?
Israel is always seeking peace, while the other side just elected savages who use civilians as shields to be their government. It's pretty clear which side wants peace in this.
It's very hard to be peaceful when you have no economic opportunity and are not allowed emigrate to somewhere that does. Israel won't even let Gazans leave for Europe
Irish Druid, the arabs in Gaza had fee passage to Egypt before they began terror in Sinai Egypt ,so do not blame Israel for their terror!
***** Your post is utterly lacking in compassion for the Gazan civilian population caught between two warring sides who are not allowed to even leave the territory. I guess if you were the innkeeper in the Bible it would be "sorry no room" to Mary and Joseph and Jesus
There is a unique and almost bizarre obsession and opinion that home must be the exact plot of land I live in rather than a nation, or even community. These people are also hypocrites they enjoy the economic benefits of Israel, yet curse the state and deny its existence but then say they would not move to the West Bank or Gaza if it were to be a nation. The reality is in this culture, home is your plot of land and it is not the entire state, if every Palestinian were to receive his home meaning the physical plot of land back, I think that is the only true solution for satisfaction (something which is impossible to do). Meaning if this is how they define being content there may never be peace, and this is not looking at the obstacles that the Israelis create as well. How complex!
Trouble is if you want to give land 'back' to the Palestinians, 1) how do you deal with all that land they SOLD to the Jews? and 2) what do you do about all the Jews that were thrown out of Arab countries and had their land confiscated?
Spot on comment. The audacity of the Palestinians living in Israel makes me so sad for Israelis. These people enjoy all the benefits a free and democratic society offer them due to a Jewish belief system, but also deny Israel and say it shouldn't exist. Funny they admit they wouldn't move to Palestine because they know under Islamic rule it is oppressive and hateful and they would lose all of their opportunities and freedom. Staggering cognitive dissonance.
@@LMWast1As though you don't have any arab immigrants in the US enjoying it's freedom and liberties all the while chanting "death to the US" .They are colonizing the US and Europe and pretty soon it's going to be the same there.But they are starting to wake up now...
So bs. The free 4 billion wasted in isteal as free gifts to commit genocide. Those vetos for aparthied, and trade deals could soon become boycotts and abstain votes. If Isreal can not destroy others using gifts ..
As someone in your interview said: "I live in reality, not in a fantasy". Most of these young people want to live in a fantasy or some imagined (not real) Palestine.
palestinians dream of a beautiful past and israelis dream about a bright future. thats the key difference in how they raise their children.
Like the Americans who are for Hamas and Palestine ; they also live in a fantasy. They think that without Israel Arab nations would be places with rights and freedom etc.
@@kevink8560 but that "bright future" is a mockery of a kingdom.
@@mrtaha360 would love to learn more of this "kingdom" you speak of...
@@kevink8560 Israel is the kingdom which will never be made again unless its a mockery such as this current state
Hypocrites.
They don't want to have their homes in the Palestinian State.
+Qaryouti XXII Syria is a Pure Arab Race Paradise, and as near to Israel, as New Jersey is to New York.
+Qaryouti XXII what a bullshit put your tin hat back on and turn off your computer, if there was a rothschild running the world, they would take over some other beautiful place in the world and solve all problems.. antisemitism at its best
A lots of Muslims in Europe want Sharia law with all the benefits the liberal secular West has to offer. But it does not work like that!
They want to stay on all the land of historical Palestine till the conditions change
Your videos have been incredibly enlightening in this region. Especially seeing people's opinions going back so far.
This is what have lead to the demise of Palestine and the Palestinians, they only think of themselves and their personal lives while on the other hand, the Israelis help each other greatly. Thousands of Palestinians suddenly forget about Palestine when they get a ticket to a developed country. Being a Palestinian I despise such people.
If the land of Israel was under the control of the Palestinian authority we would all starve to death.
I feel thankful that I live in Israel and I have an Israeli passport, it simply makes life easier.
I would never move to Palastine.
durzi son of a bitch?
ilgfalam What happen bitch? So an Arab woman speaks about how happy she is in a free state and not under you're SHIT islamic leadership and overall lack of brains to do basic governmental work without including the SHITTY religion of yours?
Ive watched a few of these now and it seems everyone that is asked if there were two separate states one Israel and one Palestine would they move there or would there be peace, most of them who answer seem to try to dodge the question either by bringing up what happened in the past, or the land is theirs so why would we do that. Shahira is cautious of how she answers, she knows if she were to go to West Bank or Gaza she would be more controlled than she is now. For one she is allowed to be an activist whilst in Israel. If she was in West Bank or Gaza she would not be aloud in politics full stop. Israeli Arabs (Palestinians) say they are discriminated against and that Israel is an apartheid state, if that were true why stay? Why not move to West Bank or Gaza or any other Arab state? Why stay in an apartheid state? The reality is the Palestinian people just don't want peace with Israel even when they were offered West Bank, Gaza and a large proportion of southern Israel they refused.
"would the standard of living increase if the Palestine will take over the land you are in now" ?
Ionut Stoica no
Gaza is now under the control of Arabs (who call themselves palestinian) so all of them should be excited to move there and contribute to making it a state.
@@titob.yotokojr.9337 Gaza is bombed, got an embargo, got walls and soldiers in the frontlines. we really can't take it as a land.
@@titob.yotokojr.9337 First of all they're not Arabs they're Palestinians and if by Arabs you mean Muslims of Palestine then yeah but never forget they are Muslims and all of us Muslims around the world will never forget about them
@@tarajii_dawla except the only reason these blockades exist is because of Hamas’s policies. There wasn’t a blockade prior to Hamas attacking both Israel and Egypt. So the end of the black AEE is really quite simple: stop trying to induce change on others (eg- Egypt and Israel) and there will be no reason for a blockade.
I might also add that Hamas was elected democratically. They’ve now exceeded their mandate, substantially, but did the people of Gaza honestly not know this was likely to happen? Or that Hamas would involve them in a fight against Israel? I ask because for decades there has been a relative lack of sympathy for Germans and Italians when their governments took them into disastrous wars. Nevertheless, Mussolini and Hitler both had strong popular support and those nations paid the price for their policies. Today Gaza is having the same experience. It pains me to see this, but lifting the blockade isn’t any more a solution to the problem than ending the Second World War with Hitler and Mussolini alive. In fact, had that happened can you imagine how many more people might have died when those two lunatics rebuilt? As painful as it is to see these conflicts to the end, the other choice is far worse. The same applies to Gaza: the best thing the world can do is weaken Hamas so that Gazans can get another chance to elect a more moderate government. But Gazans need to free themselves from this as well.
I’m an Israeli Jew and To all of my Israeli Arab country men lets not make rash decisions just yet. If you want to be called Palestinians instead of Israelis we will support you and we wish the new Palestinian state to come will be as successful as Israel inshallah. but don’t give up on your Israeli citizenship before we know it’s all good. It’s true that your economy is managed by Jewish Israeli but you’re are comfortable now and this is still your home and you’re still Israeli and we don’t want to see you suffering in an Arab state. Let’s just wait a bit and see how it’s going and then make decisions.
InshaAllah?
LOFL No way an Israeli will trade in their citizenship for a "palestinian" one.
India is not demanding Pakistan back.
Pakistan took land from India.
During the 1947 two state Partition of India.
Germany lost land to Poland after WW2 … Germany is not demanding it back and accusing Poland of stealing their land.
The reason innocent civilians get killed is because the Palestinians attack Israel.
There were many more civilians in Germany that got killed in WW2 than British civilians… but that
didn’t make Germany right.
Palestine - was a region occupied by other Empires all throughout history.
The Palestinians never owned it … they lived there with the Jews and Arabs.
In 1947 The Arabs rejected the chance to have their own country by the UN because they wanted to eradicate Israel.
Israel was legally created by the UN 1947 Resolution.
The Palestinians should stop playing victim.
Left alone Israel is no threat and have turned a desert into an Israeli superstate.
yes no way because Israel is a well of country and Palestine is not because Israel has kept them in the tone age.
@@asadali2311 Israel would leave Palestine state alone if it wasnt attacking them. In these videos its very clear many Palestinians want to destroy Israel and take everything back. If your neighbour wanted to destroy you you would do everything to protect yourself.
@@wulfiii1490 give them their areas back where you have illegally built colonies.
@@asadali2311 Palestine stays of their own will.
I really like these videos because it gives (or at least seems to give) the real feeling of the people. Not like lots of medias who describe the situation as black vs white, good vs bad.
Just continue! :)
Israel is the best place to work as a conflict zone reporter.
Relocate the family to Tel-Aviv, take the kids to school in the morning, drive an hour to the organized riot area (no press-> no point in having riots), take the photos/video, drive an hour back to the office, edit, send the material to head office and leave in time to pick up the kids from school, then have a nice evening at a nice restaurant, bar, theater, concert, movies or at a full convenience home.
Now try doing it in Darfur, Sudan, South Sudan, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Mali, Eritrea, Somaliland, Western Sahara, Niger, Libya, or any other of the dozens of conflict zones of the middle east.
Add the fact that just mentioning Israel or Jerusalem immediately raises some attention in the ears of those who have little Jewish, Christian, or even Islamic background, a guaranty for at least some viewers rating.
Add the free press policy of Israel that allows the presence foreign journalists even with an explicit hostile agenda like Al-Jazeera.
Now you know why Darfur gets little to no coverage, while Israel has the highest number of foreign reporters (and reports).
This is why Israel bombs AJ and AP news headquarters :S
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AJ and AP should not have provided a shield to Hamas for rocket launching towards Israeli cities, AP and AJ should not serve as impunity cover to terrorists.
They are lucky that Israel gives upfront warning which allows them and Hamas time to evacuate even though rocket launching posts should be responded with immediate retaliation.
Had it been any other country but Israel then the retaliations would have been erasure of building without any warning, AP and AJ would have been keeping their offices miles away from Hamas.
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Yeah of course it was Palestine from the beginning... Or was it not ? Of course it was not. It was Canaan, first use of the word Palestine to describe the place was by Herodote in 5th century BC and described a place near Syria, which comes from from the Philistines poeple, who are not related to the Palestinian people, I mean come on, The Kingdom of Israel and Judea was yes after Canaan but was way before those lots of different borders and names we give to this Palestinian "state" which have never existed before since it was always under the rules of someone else, don't get me wrong, i'm not hated on the Palestinians or on Palestine, but get the fact straight, I hope peace will come but stop using wrong facts like Palestine was here before everything else, by the way the word now Palestine comes from the hebrew word Peleshet, which means Invadors in hebrew.
It's obvious the Palestini don't WANT an independent state, much easier to get fat on The West's welfare: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_Middle_East_and_North_Africa#Palestinian_territories They don't build hospitals, schools, roads etc: most Western aid ends up in Hamas/Abbas's Swiss Bank Accounts, is used to build the attack-tunnels (which ended at Israeli KINDERGARTENS) that Israel began the 2014 war in order to destroy, money for food to breed more junior-jihadis... this is going nowhere, and it's the fault of the CORRUPT people Palestini voted for -- who have now suspended elections (Palestine was supposed to have a vote >5 years ago!! *Abbas suspended democracy, and Israel WILL NOT NEGOTIATE any new peace treaties with a regime that no longer has any OFFICIAL (constitutional) support of a Palestinian majority* (so they can't say later, "Israel, you made that agreement with a guy who didn't represent us, so we will not give to Israel what we promised to give") and ESPECIALLY since Abbas, their current _de facto_ leader, broke the promises Arafat made to Israel & couldn't control Hamas from rebelling against Abbas for a full decade... *it's like trying to make a serious contract with children...they rely on WESTERN AND ISRAELI DOCTORS (as all other CHILDREN: they are DEPENDENT on others), and they don't have an INDEPENDENT MINDSET or MENTAL STRENGTH to achieve an INDEPENDENT state:* please, anyone who disagrees, PROVE me wrong.
+Salami Allahcum no, your idiot.....jew have nothing to do with canaan....canaan is a phoenician. jew from mesapotamian origin. get your stupid facts straight. phoenicians have no thing to do with the jew.
Samuel Nan according to the torah the jews conquered the area from canaanites whose descendants are lebanese.
Samuel Nan no land belongs to anyone
Samuel Nan thei kep trying the agenda of telling a lie million times hoping it will become the truth in people minds one day...it partially succeeded around the world but the jews are aint suckers..they know what really happened according to history and will fight as much as necessary
"You don't know what u got till it's gone" it's easy for them to say they'd want to move to Palestine, the live good lives in a free, Democratic nation. They have no idea how it is to live in an enclosed Islamic nation like Palestine. These Arabs are the most privileged in the middle east.
The same argument racist whites use against black lives matter protesters in America. “Priveleged millennials that dont know how good they have it. There are other countries in the world that are much worse off.” If its called privileged to want to have the right of full self determination then I guess that means all israelis (jew and arab) are priveleged. Also Palestine isn’t Islamic you fucking idiot... lol
They clearly said they belong to Palestinian and Arab nation but they don't want to move because they feel they should stay in all the land of historical Palestine not because they are in love with the Jewish state.
Racist dog
@@mcdragonpancakes6330 the authority in Gaza is
@@tariqalmukhtar6595 the question isn’t about racism. They should fight for more rights in Israel not to want to leave it when the other side is totally nuts. But I believe in coexistence not in 2 different country’s
It was suddenly Israel. Well it was suddenly Palestine under the British.
that lady at the beginning at the Lieberman event was really great and thoughful and I wish you had a two hour event with her.
Although she repeatedly contradicts herself and ends up by "daring to say things out loud": most Arabs would prefer to stay in Israel.
An israeli lawyer told me he had many arab clients who preferred to be judged in Israel than in the west bank because they had absolutely NO faith in their own judicial system.
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I honestly don't know what she said, only she wants build a secular state of Palestine bcs she thinks she has the knowledge (as if Abbas and Hamas would ask a woman) and her family wants to live in Israel and then she went how she wouldn't kicked the settlers and how she everyone would give a double passports and that if someone kicked her, she would be against and she mentioned France, so basically she doesn't want to Israel became Palestine in some future agreement that he kicked her or gave her town to PA. And only Ramallah bcs it is secular. So what she basically wants is to have exact Palestine as Israel is, she knows it is impossible but she is afraid to say loud and clear how bad society is in Gaza and West Bank basically.
I love how the Arab colonizers in Israel are like "Omg, we're so oppressed and life is awful Israel is evil and an apartheid state.... But we'll continue to live here even with a 'Palestinian' state". 🙄
palestinians are the colonizers now hahahahahahahahahaha
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yes I do agree, if you ask here in Finland they will actually answer the same that they are oppressed here in Finland, I think they feel oppressed in every were
@@esthermarcen7587 They were born depressed, it's their default...
***** Ask them (all groups, israelis, palestinians, arab israelis) whether they agree with the following propositions:
1) Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
2) This right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Also ask them if they can affirm that it is likely that their preferred government would agree with these 2 propositions.
12:52 "In 1948, it changed suddenly to be Israel"
This is incorrect, The Jewish people actually has opened few offices prior to 1948, to be able to declare a Jewish state.
It wasn't "Suddenly" it was after a long war with the Arab community and the British Mandate.
Without the Jewish presence in Israel this area would still be in Turkish hands.
The last commentator talked about the PA building a state with pensions and health care etc., but the politicians are too corrupt and the people under their authority have little say in how the money is spent. A lot of donor money is siphoned off. Abbas is apparently worth around $100 million. How did an ordinary politician get to be so rich? Why isn't more money spent on infrastructure development and health etc.
Corey, If you need help with translating from arabic to english, or even arab english to english. I'm willing to volunteer. There are multiple things that were translated wrong here.
Just to you know there is approximately a 21 arabic country. and only one is Jewish country (That have 20% of citizens Arabs)
There are 49 muslim countries
they want to remain in Israel, but struggle to recognize it! Struggles to say that being Israel brings them better life
The. Question that should have been asked to the lady,: do you like to live under the Israeli law or Palestinian law
The city discussed Um Al Packham was moved from Jordanian control to Israeli control in 1949.
There has never been a stste called "Palestine". The League of Nations assigned TransJordan as the Land for southern Levantine Arabs, Israel was always supposed to be sovereign to the Jews, with others welcome to live there, as they had before. The map was made in 1922.
What abt al-aqsa mosque , and aren't zionsits forcibly displacing Palestinians from their homes
@@zeinh6052 “Palestinians” are an Arab/Arabicized Nationalist Group of mixed Pre and Ottoman Era imported subject groups of Peoples, including North African Groups, Balkan Groups, Chechens/Circassians, Egyptians/Sudanese allied with the Arab League. Their Arab/Islamist Supremacist political party, the “Palestinian Liberation Organization” was designed by Johann von Leers, who worked for Nasser post WW2, at the behest of the Nazi Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, a former Turkish Soldier, and Muslim Brotherhood from one of the Levantine Effendi Arab Families placed in power post the Arab Conquest of the Levant, taking it from the East Roman Christians in 638 CE. Dhemmi Laws we’re then instituted (Islamic “ Jim Crow”)The Arabs ruled the Levant from Damascus, and then Cairo until they lost it to the Seljuk Turks in 1077 CE. Arabs never ruled that section of the Levant again until granted/mandated Lands by the League of Nations in 1922. Amin al Husayni, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem did not recognize the Allied powers defeat of the Central Powers during WW1. And he refused to allow his Arab Higher Committee to enter into a Mandate agreement with the League of Nations, despite the British having successfully argued at the LON for an Arab Muslim sovereign section of the Mandate for Palestine (the LON agreement with the local Jewish Community (Zionist being defined as “supporting the development of sovereignty and self determination of the Jewish People in their ancestral Homeland) to be the Mandated People of the 23 percent remaindered from the LON assignment of TransJordan Memorandum Mandatory Landbase assignment to the Local Arabs and Arabicized Peoples. I east of the Jordan River was therefore mandated to that group, and ethnically cleansed of Jews, and no Jewish Repatriation and settlement allowed. West of Jordan was To be Jewish Sovereign, with specifically spelled out rights for no non- Jews. Including full land rights for all non Jews who owned Land as denoted in the Ottoman Turkish Land Tax rolls created by the Ottoman Land Registration Act of 1858, which is the primary source document for legitimate land ownership in what is Present Day Israel, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon. All LON Mandated Nation States.
However, the Allied Nation State powers placed as Mandate Administrators, eg Great Britain and France egregiously violated International Law again and again on behalf of their favored groups and non in their own nationalist interests. Part of those violations were the giving of Jewish owned lands to Arabs, and support of Arabs butchering and thieving the Jewish Communities of the Mandate. Then removing the surviving Jews, and giving the Arabs the properties vacated. Please see the Massacre of the Jewish Community of Hebron for documentation and validation of this. As soon as the Jewish Community was able to rid themselves of the corrupt British Mandate Administrators, many of the British Military Officers along with volunteer British Troops crossed the Allenby Bridge to join the TransJordanian Arab Legion, which the British had trained and equipped for their Hashemite Client Family, and to whom the British had given the rule of TransJordan. The day after the Mandatory ended in 1948, and the last LON Mandated State had become Sovereign, theArab League Armies attacked the then brand new Israel, in order to take land and in line with Islamist Supremacism destroy Jewish Sovereignty, and take what had been built for the new Jewish State during the mandatory era. The TransJordanians swooped on the nearly defenseless Jewish Communities and ethnically cleansed and butchered in concert with the Mufti’s Arab Higher Committee. And the Jordanian/British invasion successfully took most of the West Bank, and ethnically cleansed Jews from their privately owned properties (see the history of the Etzion Bloc, the ethnic cleansing of Jerusalem documented by the New York Times) and with Jordan now illegally occupying Israeli Lands, and with the legitimate LON assigned Borders violated, the same occurred with the Egyptian invasion of the Gaza at the same time. The Israelis fought the Arab League Armies to a stand still, as noted by the Green and Blue Line armistice agreements. However, despite the Arab League Nations seeking to steal and destroy Israel completely, they were unable to do so. However, they had told many laws cal Arabs to revolt against their Sovereign, and/or get out of the way of the Arab league Armies. And many left their homes and did so, believing Israel would be destroyed, they would return and be Arab Sovereign, and be able to take privately Jewish Owned properties. Well, things didn’t happen as they expected. In the Arab occupied areas Jewish properties were sold or rented by the Arab league Nations who controlled. For instance numerous houses in Jerusalem which were owned by Jews were transferred illegally to Arabs. And the actual ownership of their he see properties was always Jewish, and noted in the Land ownership Rolls. Then there were the properties owned by Arabs, and abandoned by those Arabs disloyal to their streets sovereign Znation, and who still live in their properties today, and who are Israeli Arabs, and full citizens of Israel. Then there are the properties regained from illegal Arab sovereignty post 19 years, and those are the lands taken back from Jordan, Egypt and Syria, which had had the Golan alienated from the Jewish Side of the mandatory illegally, and the Syrians had used to attack Jews from since gaining their own So vereignty.
Do when you spout about the bs propaganda of “the Israelis “stealing Palestinian” Lands, please recognize this for the bullshit it is. Any Arab who can prove title to Land in Israel, per the Ottoman Land Registration Act, and the Land Sales documented until the end of the Mandatory, the Israelis insure you get it back, unless you are Jewish. If you are a squatter n land not registered to you? You don’t it, and are pretending that you do. And there are a lot of Jew Hate suckers who will always choose to believe the worst of Jews. And that is exploited regularly by Arab Nationslists, and Islamic Supremacists.
@@maracohen5930 does this allow idf to kill children and forcibly displace the families on West bank ?
@@zeinh6052 What does your Nation do with people who illegally build unsafe and unsanitary non-permitted structures on State owned land they are squatting on? Per the agreements with the Palestinian Authority called the Oslo Accords, Arab “Palestinians” are permitted for buildings at the behest of the PA in areas A and B of Judea/Samaria and Israel does the permitting in area C. The area is heavily seismic, and when buildings with no connections to the potable water sources, or to sewage treatment, these politically motivated buildings, usually paid for by some Jew Hate Organization from Europe which has institutionalized and acculturated Jew Hate even worse than the anti African-American racism in the Americas ever was. Nobody takes any responsibility for what actually happens to the people involved. I know that here in the States if you decide to build your house in a City Park, or in a Freeway Right of Way, it will likely be knocked down by the authorities. Is it any different where you are from? You really should make a visit there and see for yourself. I must say the biggest surprise to me was the Gaza. I expected nothing but shambles like I had seen at Yarmouk, instead I found seaside estates, exquisite hotels, restaurants and a fabulous shopping mall…none of the places I saw there were as bad as a number of big US NDN Reservations. Yup, you really should go there and visit.
@@maracohen5930 even then you kill children and displace Palestinians forcibly, even the Jewish youth out of Israel now opposes you
No one among the respondents, would honestly volunteer himself to change residence to a Palestinian state of any form, they pretty well know the expected level of conduct of such state, yet they can't say what they honestly grasp, they want to earn from all the worlds, live and benfit from being an Israrli citizens and at the same time to declare oneself being Palestinian, a political entity commited to distruct Israrl state and inherit its Land and acheivments whilst expeling its Jewish population who build and made this state and what it represent
There is no such thing as Israel😂it a Palestinian land. How many time do u people need to hear this. That not your land, it theirland. Imagine stealing someone else country
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There's nothing like Palestinian land. The land of Israel is what the Roman invaders named Palestine just to spite the Jews. That land of Israel was partitioned into Jordan for the Muslim arabs and Israel for the Jews. How many times do we have to drum the truth into your Islamic heads?
@@messi-mk3cqall countries stole other countries’ lands, all of them! The Us, Russia, Turkey, etc! Except jews didn’t Steal anything, they won the land after arabs washed war on Israel, they lost, Israel took the land! Now stop whining and stop trying to Steal the hard work of jews!
Why don't the Saudis build an Arab homeland for Palestinian refugees?
+RBGUERILLA Because saudis don't give a fuck about any other countries
+RBGUERILLA Basically I can come kick you out of your house then ask why the Saudis won't build one for you?
+RBGUERILLA The West Bank and East Jerusalem is their property so why should they leave.
+Mike Benmos But the Jordanians did that to the palestinians too, they took all their land east of the Jordan river. Why don't the Jordanians take the palestinians in as citizens? Many would be back in their own homes!
+Abu 'Afak Because the last time they did that, the Fakistinians tried to kill the King of Jordan and steal his country (Black September). The Fakistinians were then expelled to Lebanon, where they did the same thing again, murdering about a million Lebanese Christians in the process.
1) Mark Twain, “ Innocents abroad” : : Palestine is a vast waistline, only imagination can grace this barren land with the pomp of circumstances of life. We travel for a whole day in the Galilee, we didn’t see a human being. His travel through The Holy Land was a “culminating excursion”...……………….. So, the Palestinians are not indigenous to the land...………..
I don't think many of them realize that by taking on Palestinian citizenship instead of Israeli, they would lose many of the benefits that an advanced country like Israel currently provides them.
I genuinely appreciated the extended discussion with the woman in the pink sweater sandwiched in the middle of this video. Someone who is pragmatic and thoughtful. Interesting to me that she indicated that she would like to move to a more secular part of the West Bank. That put things into perspective. She does not have a simplistic and intransigent religious view of the world.
That was the most interesting part of this video. I would have loved to speak with her more.
I am a jew arab and 100% loyal to Israel .
did you convert to judaism or do you mean you are mizrahi?
Adam Adoomy people spoke arabic before islam
Islam is a religion of Satan
Adel M,
Can an Arab be a Jew?
thinkcat01 yes , there are a lot of Arabs who are jews
A viable Palestinian state is one that prevents terrorist attacks from originating from its soil. A simple question must be asked to the Arabs: If control of this plot of land is given to you, can you prevent attacks from originating from this area? If so, how?
Like in Aza strip.
Who says they want to prevent it?
@@truthseekers864but a viable state would want to do so. If the us found out that a group of our people intended to attack Mexico or Canada or some other country they would do anything it could to prevent it and the participants would be severely punished. If you go anywhere in the west that is true and even in most of Latin America I think that is pretty true. To become a state it's not unreasonable to expect them to move past terrorism
all israeli jews and israeli christians that are religious are welcome in the Philippines. let us build your nation together. You are blessed by God and we love to be part of it also❤️🌹🥰🎉
That young man said it himself, that he has family in Syria and all over the place. That all Arabs are one nation. The new identity of Arab-Palestinian began in the 60’s and was purely a political movement to imply connection to the land when the majority of Arab-Palestinians’ grandparents migrated to the land from other Arab countries in the late 1800s and early 1900s. They’re just one appendage of the Pan-Arab world. Separating them from fellow Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians is a tactic. The older lady talks as if she were around for the 1947 Arab-Israeli war. It’s all very dishonest.
You are perpetrating debunked Zionist myths. Censuses from already the 1700s show that there were over 250,000 people living in Palestine, barely 10,000 of them Jews. That just happened to be the number of Jews living in eastern Europe which by 1940 grew to 7 million. Zionists found some Arabs that migrated from nearby countries and made that into the vast majority, knowing full well that their assertion was a lie. There are censuses from British time that indicate that most "Palestinian Arabs" had generations of ancestors living there. It was the Jews who almost all came from European countries. Some Palestinians had gone for work to Egypt and would return to Palestine but most stayed put. Netanyahu is one of the most shameless liars on the world stage and he never shied away from assuring others about doing things he had no intention to do. Jews left the Holy Land en masse in the 4th-5th century of their own free will and stayed away for 1500 years because life was too hard for them in Palestine. It was easier to live off of the goy. Only when machines appeared did they bother to return. Knowing this then by what right is the land theirs if Palestinians took care of it for centuries?
Conquers your land, then claim that it is theirs a few generations later, ignoring the fact that it was never theirs in the first place.
Now that the Israelis have taken it, by their logic after a few generations it should belong to the Israelis.
they didn’t conquer your land it was the other way around and from your point of view, you left for 3000 years not just a ‘few’ generations
@@talal-alqahtani but that’s the case. The UN divided the land , israel agree and Palestinians don’t. They attack israel with another arab countries around and israel kicked their ass and took everything she could’ve(like you do in a war)
@@asheralon8142 The UN, newly formed didnt own that land and if you look at the division it unfairly favoured the Israelis giving them most of the fertile land also it wasn’t 50-50 it was weirdly cut into pieces like why not just cut it half etc either way they should have considered the opinion of the population living there for centuries also according to the Geneva convention, international law land occupied during war has to be returned and that’s what happened when France was occupied by Germany etc
@Ivy Malik my response is below so no they don’t have any right on it
@Ivy Malik first of all no one was talking about Pakistan but now that you brought it up although I don’t encourage making countries based on religion only, Pakistan was made for the Muslims of India to due the suppression they experienced by the Hindu majority Pakistan doesn’t s import Muslims from all over the world like Israel does they were actually Muslims from that land that’s why Indian and Pakistanis look so alike and have similar cultures and although religious minorities do not get treated equally in Pakistan, Pakistani Muslims do not purposely try to ‘islamize’ entire neighborhoods by the constant displacement and replacement of people by force, that too so openly kinda disgusting how the world is okay with that also hamas and plo recognize Israel within ‘67 borders althought i don’t agree with the biblical justification provided by Israelis, according to the bible that land belongs to the seeds of Abraham so while Isaac was indeed a seed of Abraham so was Ishmael which is actually mentioned in the bible that he is the seed of Abraham now and while Jews do have a history in that land Palestinians are actually from that land they descendants of the Canaan’s or may actually be the original Jews that may have converted to Christianity and Islam also claiming to ‘return’ after 3500 years which is actually debatable where that land was is no joke if one can ‘return’ after 3500 years than why can’t Palestinians return after just a mere 70 years by Israel’s logic Christianity was born in Jerusalem so all Christians deserve the right to return as well also by that logic muslims that ruled Spain just a mere 300 years ago (vs 3500+ years ago) have the right to return and kick out the native Spaniards from their lands and ethnically cleanse them out of their lands and take over their lands and resources Israel’s agenda is really clear they don’t want peace they want to ethnically cleanse and kick out the indigenous Palestinians and keep it for one people they are using religion as tool to justify their actions but no ‘chosen people’ if truly chosen would never act in such a manner where they act in such a terroristic manner this is terrorism terrorism is not defending your land family and resources internationally you are allowed to defend yourself and your family from any oppressive force also even in Judaism it says thou shall not steal thou shall not murder but that is exactly what Israel does EVERY SINGLE DAY that’s why some real Jews and Israelis actually oppose what Israel does on a daily basis as a colonial settler regime anyways if Israel has the right to exist (which it really doesn’t ngl) then so does Palestine has a right to come into statehood also I don’t have time to argue with an idiot the truth is I just replied to your initial point and proved you wrong about getting land based on war and now that you were proved wrong you have no other point besides saying the the Arabs belong to Arabia lol no logic whatsoever did you even know that Arabs are even different based on culture?? Haha and you are basically okay with defying international law now that it’s not in Israel’s favour so much hypocrisy 😂😂😂 go learn how to be human and come up with valid points for your argument 😂😂😂 #istandwithhumanity #freepalestine #endoccupation #endapartheid
None of them mention the repressive palestinian regimes.
The Arabs want to have their cake and eat it too
They already have Jordan, I dont understand why they want more.
@@peacelove7495 it is literally their land... of course they want their land
@المهم لاحد يكلمني Palestine was British then baby. The British administered the passports.
This is arab land deal. With it
@@peacelove7495 no palestin was British mandate, used to be Ottoman land
I find funny how they mention cities and regions that have and always had, an hebrew name, saying its palestinian ( as opposed to be israeli ).
Because they call the entire colonised land Palestina. To do what the romans did, to remove any Jewish relation to the land. All colonisers do. All criminal do this, to remove all evidence of their crimes
I note these young Arab women are not wearing hijabs. They would be relegated to second class citizens in a Palestinian state and they know it.
Question: would she like to live under a Palestinian Islamic State?
Funny how she can behave like this in a liberal Israeli democracy but yearns for another type of government. Find any Muslim majority country where you'd rather live? Even they wouldn't, that's why they come all over here to the West.
You're doing good work Corey :)
watching your videos. enjoying them all. very well done, very educational for everyone! very useful! thank you for your great job!!! keep it up! wish you every success!!!
Geeez, Palestinians just admit you prefer the rule of Israel than that of Hamas. Just condemn Hamas.
They are all two faced
I thought there is an arab muslim who is currently one of the supreme court judges in Israel; not only that, I understand that he did send a jewish ex president to jail.
3:56 *Not sure if they would be interested in what a woman has to say, or would allow women to order men to do things.*
whats this woman driveling about? no israeli thinks like that. even though after so much terrorism that would be understandable to think like that.
There are already 23 Islamic "Palestines" and Arabs who do not like Israel can freely choose in which of this "palestines" they want to live.
24 if you count Chad or the Camoros.
enas batta and how well do you think those years worked out for us?
enas batta
Israel is 3000 years old and 67 years young.
"Palestine" were a Greek people annihilated 2500 years ago.
You can also live in any place from where your ancestors came.
***** Really....... so does that mean the Yids can move back to East Europe, their true homeland and Moroccans back to Morocco and Persians back to Iran and Iraqi back to Iraq........and the Palestinians back to Palestine........great....so much for ZioNazism.
PS.......since there is no nationality for religions your mythical [non]people with their crippled history will have to settle for Israeli..... which isn't recognized in a Jewish state....Hehe
There is no such thing as "Palestinians" nor the origin of Arabs currently occupying the land of Israel has anything to do with this land. Arabs are immigrants and foreigners in the land of Israel whose origin dates back to over 20 Arab and Islamic country.
Israel was recognized by entire interrnational community as it is, based on its declaration of independence and basic laws, 66 years ago.
Why don’t they live with the Jordanian people. They are Arabs and can combine to form a new State
They have no interest in a state. They want to kill the Jews. This is their religious tradition since Khaybar in the 7th century.
Palestine is judea, renamed palestine in 134 ad by a roman emperor to punish the jews for a revolt during the roman empire, Judea means land of the jews. These people repeat things they know nothing about, Most muslims moved to palestine in the 1880s, there are jews that have never left the area and their ancestors have been there for thousands of years. Even the older muslims in the region didnt move there til around the period of the muslim conquest in 638ad. Even the Quran talks about israel and says it is the land of the jews and that the jews have the right to enforce the laws in their land, these are the written words of the profett muhamed. Not only do they not know their history I doubt they study their religion. She is right her ancestor may bave been there, but israel and the jews have been there much longer. Israel have multiple times agreed that they should form their own state in the region, but they dont accept it, they want the entire region and believe it should all be a muslim state without israel, even though the jews in that regions are as much from that region and they are. The only difference is that they made a state, palestinians have failed that, And naming you country and your people after the region palestine, when all jews are palestinian themselves, does not make the land theirs. Dont forget palestine the name was originated from a jewish word that meant intruder, which is what they called the filistines, a crete civilization that invaded judeah and waged war on the jews then left and disapeared. The roman emperor to further punish the jews not only renamed the region in order to remove the jewish identity from the name but they named it after the jews historical enimies, the filistines.
That Arab woman is insane. Like the men in a Palestinian state would allow her to be apart of anything other then having children, cooking and cleaning. A lot of mental gymnastics in this video
Shahira is clueless. She wants to be a part of building a state? Show me an Arab nation where women are equal in rights and allowed to be a part of the leadership? In Palestine she will be forced to wear a hijab, asked to stay home and raise a family. If she is such a feminist woman, does she recognise the lack of freedom women in Gaza live under? Does she realise that if she speaks against it and fights for equal rights she's likely to be thrown into jail or worse, shot? She is clueless and speaks freely because she lives in Israel. She's not aware of her privilege, provided by the Israeli state.
Amazing they live in that land and don’t know it’s own history!! Not different from Americans!! People will be people!!
They know the facts and you know nothing
@@mnlamraj9744 says jihadi living in the west 🤣
@@mnlamraj9744 they dont
they don't have an history here except of the time of the arab nationalist movement
The 2nd lady says 'the conditions on the west bank and in gaza are not that good', and I feel she hopes they will get better. she would not live there because of the conditions being so bad. So obviously for all of us human, the conditions on the west Band and in Gaza need to get better.
Sure, if they could get rid of the corrupt Kleptocracy which runs it.
West Band its called Judea and Samaria
@@maracohen5930 who?
@@FirstLast-ox1vj Well we can start with Abu Mazen and his sons.www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-112hhrg74960/html/CHRG-112hhrg74960.htm
www.spectator.co.uk/article/corruption-affects-everything-in-Palestine-even-vaccines
Bad is of course, comparative. But while I know a whole lot of Arabs who don't like Israel, their cousins there have it far better than under the PA and Hamas Kleptocracies.
Thank you for sharing this. I really appreciate the constructive and creative dialogue.
I don't understand the argument of land ownership.... The universe is billions of years old... The earth is hundreds of millions years old... Human life may live up to a century... We are born from dust and all will become dust .. as a result we own nothing... Let's just travel and live in peace.
I wonder if you’ve ever interviewed someone that later on went to commit violence
Here's the real answer for anyone interested in it: the people who should be asked the question are the Arabs living in towns and villages along the Israeli-Palestinian border. When asked if they would like the border to be moved so they that their town becomes part of the Palestinian state (without being moved from their homes) they are terrified at the possibility. And this is supposedly their dream... not! They prefer to stay under Israeli rule than live under their brothers' rule.
Arab-Israeli author Sayed Kashua even wrote a novel about it: Let There Be Morning. Look it up.
No, they aren't
No, they aren't
The first person, you have interviewed many times. Why always choose her? Then most of the interview is to that social activist lady talking "you don't need lieberman or bibi". Why not just choose more of the ordinary people and also not the same people all the time.
The woman in pink, what an honest and warm person. I felt like the discussion between Corey and her was really beautiful.
The lady at 2:00 - 11:30 is wise beyond words. The question is simplistic and polarising, and yet her nuanced replies provide a lot of context.
christopher pugmire ... oh pleeeze
Israel is their home. Many Israeli Palestinians won't feel at home anymore in a Palestinian state, especially the youth and those who integrated for some extent. Why would they leave, unless they are nationalist like the lady at 3:37?
About the racism rising up in Israel, it's hard for the whole Israeli left wing as it is for the Israeli Palestinian. In critical times, I believe that the political power of the left, the center and the Israeli Palestinians will cooperate, like they did about the racist "national law" that the right wing tried to make. So there is no need to worry about that, just use your voting rights and it will keep you safe from Netanyahu, Lieberman and Bennett.
there was nothing "racist" about national law per se. It's already de facto and de jure since the country's inception. The problem is that, as you see in this video, the younger Arabs feel very strongly one way and that was doesn't seem very peaceful, IMO
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It is complicated. The Israeli-arab political power is formed from 4 parties, "Hadash" - left wing, "Raam" - Islamic party, "Taal" - arab center party, and "Balad" - right wing nationalist arab party. The last three do not support any Israeli government, left wing or right wing, and by that helping the right wing many times, because the left wing most of the time can't form a coalition without them. Hadash, the left wing arab party, supported the government of Yitzhak Rabin and willing to support very left wing and peaceful governments, which from their perspective, Rabin's government was the only one of that kind.
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As far as I know, it's Hadash who didn't want to join the coalition but to support it from outside.
I don't know how did you got to the conclusion that it is the left wing that do not wants the arab parties in the coming government. The only party that could support a left wing coalition, beside Hadash, which is "Taal", said very clear that they won't support any government until the end of the occupation.
I'll give you an example that make it very clear. You can have an agreement in israel between two parties that if one of them gets for example 2.2 sits and the other gets 3.8 then the second one will take the 0.2 and have 4 sits. Hertzog, the head of the labor party, that has that agreement with Meretz, offered that in order that the union of the arabs parties and "Yesh Atid", the center-left party will be able to enjoy that chance, he will make this agreement with Yesh Atid, and Meretz will make it with the arab's union. Yesh Atid and Meretz agreed, The Arab union rejected it, specially the members of Balad, because Meretz is mainly a jewish party, even though ideologically it's not far from Hadash. They actually preferred to maybe get fewer sits than sign an agreement with Meretz, a really far left party, so we can stop fantasize about them supporting the Labor's coalition.
About Balad, they are very much right wing, beside hanin zoabi feminist issue. and very nationalists. For example, they criticized Mahmoud Abbas for cooperating with the Israeli government in preventing terrorism, calling him "a traitor". And Rabin fight very hard and bravely for peace before he was murdered, like no other prime minister before hin or after him.
Hertzog is promising to try his best to get to an agreement with the man you call a traitor and the PA, in order to end the occupation, have peace and a Palestinian state. He won't end the occupation without an agreement, but won't play games like Netanyahu. So you got 3/4 Arabs parties that made it very clear that they won't support any government, and you keep blaming Hertzog, that didn't agree to say he won't ask them to join when he was asked to?
Hadash did want to sign with Meretz, So did Taal, and even Raam, the islamic party, was convinced to support that agreement. It was only Balad that prevented it, while they was OK to run in the same list with Hadash, because they are mostly Arabs, but not to sign an agreement with Meretz, because they are mostly jewish.
Your opinions about the situation is very radical and problematic, you are definitely not on the left side. I'm myself a radical left winger, I stand against the apartheid in the West Bank, and trying my best to reach a solution. I wants the Palestinians to have a state in 67 borders and the racism in Israel to end, and my criticism of the Arab parties, from my point of view, is an inner criticism. Balad was revealed as racists for rejecting the agreement and so I stand against them just like I do against Netanyahu, Lieberman and Barnett.I even considered to vote for the arab's union party, because of Ayman Uda, the head of Hadash and of the union, that represent my opinion better than Meretz, but I can't because of Balad's part in the union, and because it will weaken the chance for left wing government.
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About Gideon's article, I already read it, and I do not agree.
Abbas is the best leader the Palestinians ever had. All the arabs leaders are "dictators", but I really believe in moderation and it is clear that the moderation of Abbas contributed to the Palestinian struggle for ending the occupation much more than Hamas or Arafat. it's contributed me and a lot of Israelis to the struggle, and a lot of people in the world. imprisons people who intended to murder people is a noble thing and save a lot of lives, Palestinians lives as well.
About the territory of the Palestinian state, I will support dismantling all the settlements and getting back to 67 borders, but I don't think it is going to happen. I believe that some of the settlements will be dismantled, but the agreement will include land swaps, while every inch that was stole by the settlements policy will have to be returned by Israeli land, and east Jerusalem will be part of Palestine.
About Hamas, I really hope it will be part of the agreement, yet as far as I know, Hamas goal is to kick all the jews out of this land and not peace with Israel and a Palestinian state in 67 borders. If Hamas will be part of the agreement I will be more than happy, yet we should not let them preventing the end of the occupation with their fanaticism.
Student in Haifa university: "...Palestine is everything..." OMG, please no))))) Is that what they learning there?
No mention of terror
im so confused, so the israeli government aproached that lady to give her citenzship and benifits but also discriminates againts non jews? also does she really think hamas would even consider having her in any position of leadership in shariah law?
The woman who was suggesting there could be two passports is like the Quebecois who when confronted with the reality of losing their Canadian passport rejected independence . She didn’t want to live under Palestinian government or live without the rights and benefits of Israeli society. She deftly steered away from that question. She wants everything.
but why can't she have it?
@@d.k.s.5919 Seems like many women think they can have it all LOL
@@ace6285 the entirety of history consists of men committing carnage and destruction because of wanting it all, so I don't see your point.
What realy this survey Expect to achieve, you'll be hearing to a pile of dishonest statments and nothing but that
Except for the ones who like Israel and don't want to change, the people seemed confused. They have no conception of what a "Palestinian" is or what a Pal state is. You could have asked if they'd go to live in Gaza, which IS a Pal state carved out of Israel. Or Jordan. They are acting like it is an ideal, not a reality existing close by which they can look at to as a way to see the likely outcome of yet another Muslim state. Such states are not as beneficial as what Israel is giving them. The other take-away for me was the confusion and lack of understanding as to what Palestine was in history. It was mostly a Jewish homeland, and there never was an Arab country there. But these kids have been fed the lie that it was their homeland. They don't get that Palestine had a different meaning pre-1948. Jerusalem was in Palestine and my old Shabbat school books called the homeland Palestine. It had meaning only for Jews and no one else. This is clearly not being told to them and thus the confusion. But the confusion is not going to help in the cause for peace.
i'm positive the young adults meant that their families has been here before the state of Israel why should they leave?
Because they refused, as did their Actual Arab/Islamist Supremacist grandparents to accept that WW1 actually happened, and that you can live by International Laws made as the result of the Ottoman Sultanate’s choices or think you can claim sovereignty over lands that haven’t been under Arab Rule (excepting the 19 years of illegal Arab Occupation) since 1077 CE. Arabs have been given autonomy in the PA which is the Gaza, and areas A and B in Judea/Samaria. Jews didn’t ethnically cleanse the lands they were given by the League of Nations as the Arabs did to their resident Jews. From places where Jews had lived long before the Arab Invasions in the MENA. I just wish the Arab Nationalists/Islamist Supremacists didn’t keep their propaganda machine narrative lying to their own. They victimize their own grass roots folks far more than the Israeli Druze Border Patrols, or the IDF has. I always wonder if the Arab Palestinians actually b Lieberman that Jordan, Syria Or Egypt would allow them to actually create another failed Arab State…or just take the land, as they did in 1948. They could have created another Arab State then with the stolen Israeli territories, but they didn’t.
There’s no such thing as a Palestinian nation. Those people are just Arabs who lived in an area. They didn’t belong to any specific nation. Talks of Palestinian as a nation only occurred after they realized for PR reasons that it benefited them to defeat the Jewish state of Israel.
It’s really sad these people lack basic history. There’s never been in the history of mankind a land in the holy land made or governed by Palestinians. Please name a time where there’s been... I’m waiting
Cory should ask the question....what if Palestine becomes a state and demands all Arabs come back home? Would they go and help build palestine into a better place with what knowledge they have about Israel...the things they like if any? They have a choice on where they want to live but what if they had to make a choice?
Is really nice that the Israel Arabs have a choice. These interviewed Arabs give me a laugh. Of course they would never want to live in Palestine over Israel. Who are they kidding? They can choose to stay in Israel or Palestine I saw a video where every single person on the streets of Palestine were asked if there was a war and Palestine won could the Jews still live there? The answer was NO, NO, NO. NO and even if they were born in Israel they are outsiders They don't want them in Israel because it is Arab land. They wanted all the Jews ousted and they didn't care where they went.
Carolina Leaman And yet after the 6 Day War when Israel won all the land from the Arab countries they fought, they gave Gaza, the West Bank, and Golan heights back to the Palestinians.
let me give you a very good example. In the 80s some communist party leaders in Iran moved to Soviet Unions to live in their ideal state and under the authority of their favorite government. The shock caused by the incredible gap between their expectations and the shocking reality of the Soviet Union led many to disillusionment, severe mental crises, and depression. Some of them committed suicide. Dissatisfied with the party and the Soviet Union, and sometimes the majority organization, were not only deprived of all their basic rights but some were imprisoned and inhumanely punished.
Mind boggeling hypocracy :)
A berfect example of the "balastine lie".
@Yo Yo obviously they care about israeli social security and free healthcare while chanting against israel .... go swallow a soap.
@Yo Yo you surely left yours
@Dark_Lord why are you saying nazis? Anyway they are already here. If they’d move to the Palestinian authority it’ll be hamas and fatah as it seems. You gotta separate the Palestinians within Israel.. it might help you
....but history says and fact says - there has never been a Palestinian State. There is also really no Palestinian people. There are only 2 people in the area...Jew or Arab. The word Palestine is not even from the area. Palestine is Greek word. Ancient romans pinned the name on the Land of Israel in 135CE after stamping out Judea second insurrection , the Romans renamed the Province Syria Palestina. to punish the Jews. The term Palestine was use over a millennia without a precise geographical location. No Nation ever had that name or ever existed. Palestine is a geogrphical area without prcise boundaries because it is not a nation. Just like the sahara dessert...its just geagraphical area. Dictionary says Palestine is a region in SW Asia at the end of the miderranean comprising of 3 nations. Israel, Jordan and Egypt....Lebanon came later as the only Christian state in the middle east. Yasser Arafat and the PLO destroyed that nation and became a haven for terrorism in September 1970.
You need to redo this one, now that the percentage of Israeli Arabs feeling of national belonging to Israel has jumped to 70%