Tested: Blackmagic ATEM Mini Pro ISO Video Switcher!
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2020
- For our recent livestream productions, we've been testing the Blackmagic ATEM Mini Pro ISO as a dedicated hardware solution to switch between multiple cameras and add effects like dissolves and picture-in-picture. Norm runs through the features of the high-end ISO model, shares our likes and places for improvement, and shows how it can integrate into a home production workflow for live streamers and other content creators.
Thanks to Blackmagic Design for loaning us this unit for review!
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One small correction: You do not need to have the USB plugged in to configure the stream with the ATEM Software. You can connect to the ATEM Software and configure the all parameters (including streaming) using only the ethernet connection. You simply need to connect to the switcher over IP. So you could have the Ethernet plugged in and record on the disk using the USB-C port simultaneously.
Later in the video, you did mention that you hadn't delved into this yet.
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Thanks for the review. Very helpful!
Honestly I’m game if Tested is including more live production gear
Totally, I want more
Idk man they did a nas video and it was really scary how poorly done it was.
@@MrYaxalot True but that video is years old at this point.
Great review, helped me make up my mind to buy the ATEM Mini Pro ISO! Thanks Adam.
Ah am so glad for this vid! I’m wanting to get into streaming and am overwhelmed by the equipment so far
Nice review. We've had the same model for the past month for livestreaming primarily, but wanted to record to external SSD simultaneously. Unfortunately, the only output that can record directly is the same USB-C output that sends the webcam signal to the computer. You've shown the ethernet port solution using the blackmagic software and we're going to try it. We have two other workarounds using the HDMI output for streaming instead. Both require extra gear. The cheapest solution is to run the HDMI out through an Elgato cam link and into the computer USB. This is recognized as a webcam. The pricier solution is to run the HDMI out through a Blackmagic Video Assist monitor which has HDMI passthrough and is also recognized as a webcam by the computer with the latest software update from Blackmagic.
I've been waiting for your review for this before I got one. Guess that was a day late hahahah, got one yesterday and I'm having so much fun with it.
I have the Pro and love it! I'm a Dj and it really feels like a live mixer for video. I'm going to use it for a live solo podcast show w/ zoom interviews and it works like a dream. I'm glad you did a review and helped kill my fomo about the ISO as I was almost going to sell mine to upgrade! lol. Great vid!
The most simple explaining ever in this device.
This is a perfect affordable option for churches. We’ve been using the ATEM Pro since April/May. It’s super volunteer friendly and mixed with a StreamDeck with Companion it’s great.
I don't think churches are allowed to use this HAHA the bible does not allow video streaming 🌈 praise the LORD
Yeah seems to be dropping frames a lot. Not sure if that’s just the disk recorder SSD not being fast enough or what.
Core issue is that there’s no indication that it’s happening.
I noticed that. I'm still using the older atem television HD, better functionality.
More production gear videos! Love them
It is so useful for live video I am used to the big switchers but this was so easy to start on
Thanks for the video. One note, the Pro and ISO models will let you do the streaming directly to a single source from the unit if it is connected to a network so you don't have to use a computer to do the streaming. That will free up the USB for recording instead of management if need be.
I've been using the ATEM Pro for a few months. I record to SSD(SanDisk) and stream directly to Facebook and it has worked really well. I use a networked computer to fill in the stream details and hit the start streaming button. The thing I want to add most is a headphone jack. I've used the ATEM Software to tweak the audio, but I have no way to monitor it before going live. Because of the recent price drop, the YoloBox live stream is also a decent contender for this type of production.
Cool information. Thank you for a look behind the curtain.
If you record the ISO and locally on the camera. You can bring that all into your project and replace the ISO proxies by 12but bRAW for example. And you don't need to edit in Resolve for that(which still is worth a consideration). Open the project in Resolve and export a FCO roundtrip .XML which opens in Pr. ISO recording or in camera/external raw recording even. Which means you get all the Multican stuff and can do slight adjustments, better color grade for a cinema level export even. Great for events, when you got pocket cameras setup and record onto SSDs on the camera. There is HDMI talkback and telelights with this.
It seems like you do got s few dropped frames during this video tho.
If you are streaming wirelessly from the cave, you can connect your computer to the atem through the ethernet port, hard wired or usbc to ethernet adapter, then use the USB-C port on ATEM to record your footage and the Atem will still have software control. BTW just built a completely battery powered unit of the Pro model to take on location and use in the field, fantastic when you don't need AC power to operate it.
Works really well in a corporate live stream sense too, however we’ve had a lot of problems of the functionality freezing up if left on for a while. Our new standard practice then is to restart the switcher before every event. Not a big deal and has solved the issue, just mildly annoying that there isn’t a power switch and it has to be unplugged instead.
Not sure what's the cause - but there's quite a lot of choppy sections in the video.
I was about to say the same
@@matthewwellman I believe those "choppy" sections are when he's using his phone as the camera.
Actually just noticed it from the Canon camera, that looks like something in the system bogged it down.
Awesome video! We just got out ATEM mini pro iso this week and I'm building a custom Pelican case for it with a 4k screen like DSLR Video Shooter did on his YT video.
Awesome explanation, thank you. So with the ISO it's possible to use it for a livestream and record the individual outputs? I agree that having more USB C ports would be great
Norm! Thank you!
6:03 , 6:12 and few other moments (on the beginning with iphone feed) have some kind of dropped frames, is it that because of hardware, recording that videos or does that happen in postprocessing?
I came to the comments to say the same, it seems to be dropping frames for a few seconds when he switches feed
I wonder how it copes with each source potentially having a different frame rate. It looks like he made this video 100% on the device and is recording the mixdown to a USB drive. That is very impressive, but if the phones / camera are recording at different FPS (30/29.something) it has to be dropping or duplicating frames in that mixdown as it can't be a variable FPS video it is outputting.
Im interested in the answers @tested
It may be due to the different input sources running at different frame rates. Smartphone video is notorious for variable framerate
Might be that, but at the same time it happened on all of the cameras and mostly on the fade between them. I'm wondering if maybe there is something with bitrate going on there or maybe SSD buffer goes wild every now and then. There are many possibilities why that happens
most broadcast cameras have switchable HDMI outputs usually with the option of viewfinder, TC (burnt in timecode) or clean video
I fully agree with you this device should have a double USB port as one to be used for example for OBS and you can record all cameras on the other USB so then be able to do a correct edit on DaVinci
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Need to sort out the framerate issue of the dslr. Its dropping to like 10fps in a lot of places. Eg: watch from here 11:51.
I have an ATEM Mini Pro that I use via USB as a webcam and do not experience those dropped frames you see in the video, and that many have mentioned here. I imagine this is from the SSD hard drive write speeds, although this assessment may be wrong due to the lack of my knowledge on the actual Samsung unit used.
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The one major feature the Atem Mini is missing is side-by-side mode, rather than picture-in-picture. For streaming a speaker and their slides, it would be great to have the slides cover the left 75% (with black bars above and below) and a cropped camera feed of the speaker cover the other 25%.
That's crazy that you cannot simultaneously output USB to live stream while also ISO-Recording all the sources. What a huge oversight.
OMG. The last video switchers I used was by Ampex and Grass Valley. Many Starwars fans would recognize it when the Deathstar tech is about to fire the Deathstar ray. (hint, that lever he/she pulls switches/fades A/B source). This is just cool! Blackmagic has a 4K Television ATEM switcher but its more like $2300..
Sounds like the GVG 200. I worked on many high end broadcast video and audio equipment in my life but miss it now that I'm retired.
You can also view your settings or copy your livestream key via ethernet. So you start your recording via USB and then you can control everything from audio effects to color settings via ethernet or switch remotely between cameras if you like. The ISO is cool since it records everything simultaneously without the hazzle of later adjusting different recording speeds or frame rates, it also records your switching choices, so you get a fully edited video out of your livestream (and can change transitions later ln, if you like). So it looks like you haven't fully discovered what the ethernet or the ISO functionality is for.
We use this ATEM for our MotoXpod Podcast for over a year
Really considering buying one of these!! LOVE the video, what screen is that your using?
I noticed some stutter in the video though, why so?
Jacob: I am using both an ATEM Mini and ATEM Mini models for my UA-cam channel. I am using Sony A5100 and A6000 cameras as input. Havent noticed any problems.
Thanks for the review. Too bad all our Christmas presents have been bought already.
How about the audio input? Does it have a stereo line inputs for using external high end mic preamps and mics? Does it have to select Audio from the one of 4 hdmi inputs? Camera’s micing and audio is not go enough for high quality video productions, I usually use Separate audio devices for audio.
I would love this scale of product but with SDI connectors
Great review, thank you for sharing from your perspective. What iPhone stand/holder are you using to point down at the ATEM Mini Pro ISO, but does not show itself? #magic
Hey Adam: Thanks for the video. What did you click a couple of times to get rid of the Canon menu on the screen?
That was a really well done video! You broke everything down so well. I specifically appreciate that you took the time to throw comparison shots on screen.
I’m curious about the HD out to the ssd drive. Maybe I missed it, but what do the files look like on there? In this scenario is it saving 3 Separate files in 1080p?
Sorry that wasn’t clear-the ssd is automatically filled with the mixdown video, folders containing individual video and audio files for each hdmi source, and a da vinci project file that has the live mix edit. You can change the quality of the encodes as well in the desktop software
@@tested thanks for the bonus info! Seems like I might be doing a little Christmas shopping for myself :)
ATEM Mini Pro: Multi-view goes on and off - What type of HDMI Cable I need to get for this?😥 HELP !!!!
my friend!
Atem? I hear he’s the King of Games.
And Blackmagic, I guess his favourite monster is still in his deck
Quick question. Can i use m50 for longer podcast with Atom mini Pro or do i need a camera with intervalometer ?
And cool switcher
What audio source did you choose. The lav. Mic to just one camera?
how do i connect 2 logitech usb cameras to my mac book pro and ATEM mini pro together?
is this going to be the best option for me for my podcast to record 3 cameras at once (for editing further down the line) with 3 logitek brio 4k webcams plugged in and also connected to a rodecaster and 3 mics.
Want to just walk in and click record.
Nice
Great video, it's just a bunch of wires! I wonder if wireless HDMI would work with it.
Of course it would. Set up your wireless HDMI system as you normally would then all you need to do is send the output to this instead of the normal place you’d send it.
Are you getting a audio delay in the davinci file? I’m using the Atem mini Iso main camera audio. No live streaming but want to live edit for direct upload to UA-cam
HELP
Fantastic review. I have the ISO. Tried connecting to my Macbook Air, but the switcher would not connect. I want to use the Air for the software control for more functionality and preview monitor. Also to be portable through with it all. Nothing. Also tried setting IP address manually and nothing. Anyone here have any issues like this and have any ideas?
I noticed the video framerate from the Canon camera angle pointing head-on is choppy at times. Is that an issue with the Blackmagic device or the Canon camera?
For using a mirrorless/DSLR camera in 1080p mode at 30fps to do Zoom conferences: Do you know how the video quality of the Blackmagic ATEM Mini compares to the Magewell Capture HDMI Gen 12 and/or the Elgato Cam Link? If I want to minimize latency, am I better off getting an internal computer card like the Magewell Pro Capture HDMI Card? I heard complaints about certain capture cards that use some form of jpeg compression that reduces the video image quality. Does that really matter? Does a device using USB 2.0 vs USB 3.0 make any difference in latency? (I know the Blackmagic ATEM Mini is a switcher with extra features, but at this temporary point, I'm just trying to understand differences in latency and video quality for each device using 1 mirrorless/DSLR camera.) Thanks.
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If this device was connected to a computer via USB, would it be able to record the individual files to the computers hard drive (SSD)? If not, perhaps via the Ethernet port?
The SSD recording doesn’t work with Restream Scheduler on my end. Have you had any luck?
You said no loss in the recording, but the ISO recordings are 1080p max, right?
hm, seem to be a frame rate loss around 6:04 when switching sources. Also around 8:30 seem to be frame rate loss... Does that happen often? Kind of curious about this device tbh
Can I record onto a Cfast card instead of an SSD drive? Also, would it still be recording on my camera even though it would be record through the switcher?
I want to know. Is it possible to apply luts under different camera streams.
I'm running a podcast where I have three cameras. As of now I am editing the videos and applying luts in postproduction.
Is it possible to use the ATEM.. And then applying luts realtime??
(I'm using so many cameras with picture profiles)
are you able to see a camera multicam view like that on vmix?? or is only possible on the blackmagic software?
Looks like mini Amiga based Video Toaster.
Norm those usb HDMI capture cards were cheap right before covid they are not really any cheaper now.
When it records to disk, does it record 4k?
I am confused. I want this device to do switching in real time and to be able to save the content as I go into a single video file on a hard drive. Does it do this or is it only good for live stuff?
Mooi
So you can ONLY either: a) record out the USB-C to hard drive OR b) do a livestream and have NO individual camera (ISO) recordings?
Do i have to synchronize video and audio after using the Atem mini pro...
Hi,
Is it possible to record in ProRes on flash memory?
What's the reason for all the dropped frames?
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I have atem mini pro
And the resulting video is very laggy regarding that my output is 4k and settings are 800 iso , shutter speed 1/50
Any idea how do I solve the lagging problem ??
Does the ISO record isolated cameras in 4k?
Yeah, looks like the main camera input is like 10 FPS. What’s the deal with that?
What’s the maximum record resolution??
And what’s the maximum live stream resolution ??
Where are the iso feeds recorded to?
why is our pi 400 > atem mini HDMI audio sound like robots ? pls anyone got a solution ?
how does audio work from the cameras? if i have lapel mics connected to multiple cameras, will they stay live when I camera switch?
Yes. You’ll see that each source has a AFV button (audio follows video), so you’d just keep that off, and turn on each cameras mic using the On button.
@@mrkylematz do you also get left right mute function through the software mixer?
@@Damien.Travels On the Blackmagic Design website, they have a Pan knob in the software control for each audio source, so I think you could use that.
What's a good android option?
I’m confused. How are you able to do the multi view AND run into a capture card? I’m only seeing one output on the device.
I think he did not livestream this, but instead as shown in the video, record his show into the HD, edit it and uploaded it, thats why he can show both the ISO and the mixed outcomes.
You can record, and use the ethernet to NDI to Webcam it.
Hrm that would be useful for me (looks at price)...nevermind
I feel like video switching is only a secondary feature of the atem mini. I think it's primary feature is to be a object that youtubers review.
Can I borrow it when they send you next gen? JK, or am I?
The original atem mini has a consistent problem with audio desync, have you guys had any issues on this one?
Not really a problem, but a result of HDMI. If audio is pluged into a camera the sound and video are in perfect synch. As the encoding is happening at the camera and fed through the HDMI. If you plug an audio input directly into the ATEM, the audio is "straight" into the video out and does not have the delay that happens with the video and audio encoded in a camera. But there is a fix in the software, you just test and set the audio delay for that input and Bobs your uncle! :-)
@@JanThomasPettersen They actually added an audio delay feature in the software control that you can apply.
@@richardgomez3469 I believe that’s what I also said. So, yeah. 👍🏻
Hi does this work with the Nikon Z30
7:37 any one know this Samsung drive buy link ?
your frames don't match or something there is lag, is ihis done with the blackmagic cause then its a good video not to buy it?
The Jamie emoticon:
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4:18 - is that a laptop or monitor? :)
Which Canon camera are you using? Canon 6D MII?
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I purchased a mini , and a few months later came the pro, then purchased that pro because of the USBc able to record all HDMI inputs to the ssd, and videos ( such as this one and others fail to mention is that it only records the 4 HDMI streams separately with BLACKMAGIC cameras. it does not work with any HDMI input...its stated in the .PDF..and an email I got from tech support.The Pro only records the FULL MIXED stream not seperatly as also the ISO will record all HDMI inputs and a mixed file, BUT ONLY WITH BLACKMAGIC CAMERAS..
Can you come on to Alex Lindsay's Office Hours and put a question to the panel about that - link in the descriptions on how to join the Zoom, under the videos here - ua-cam.com/users/alexlindsaypxc
the Pro will tell blackmagic camera to start recording in camera, but can only record the same stream that is streamed.
Which is why Blackmagic Design later came out with the Atem PRO ISO (the ISO is important here), that actually records the iso feeds for all inputs
This isn't mentioned in the Mini Pro ISO manual. Could you post the reply you got from support? I'm interested in buying one of these and the recording of separate video sources is one of the features I'm interested in.
Can you control the rate of desolve(fade)?
Yup! On board, it has buttons for .5, 1, 1.5 and 2 seconds. Using the control software (connect to ATEM through network) and set custom timing
This is cool but the damn atem doesnt even have an off switch... gotta unplug the damn thing.
I thought you can use a usb hub
Link for your monitor?
I'd like that link too I tried a similar one but would not recognise the ATEM PRO
I lost all hope in you when you're raging about how great a BM product is, say it exports Davinci PROJECT FILES....and proceed to say you guys edit with Premiere. I'll never go back. Editing and cutting, actually being able to utilize the speed of my 2X 4090's is insane.