How to Livestream with Blackmagic ATEM Mini and OBS
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- How to Livestream with Blackmagic ATEM Mini and OBS
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This is really really good. Thank you. Sometimes I feel that YT people are trying to impress me with their knowledge rather than help me learn what I'm trying to learn. You are a brilliant teacher. I appreciate your no-nonsense approach, it's straight forward and easy to understand. I come to YT to be educated and I learnt so much from this video. It gives me the confidence to do this.
So glad to share what we’ve learned to help others! Appreciate the kind words and feedback 🙏🏼
This is by far the best video I have watched to educate myself on streaming. Thank you very much for the amazing Job done. I really appreciate this. Emmanuel, Nigeria.
Thank YOU for watching and your encouraging words!
I agree with your comments. Did you go live? How is it going? Any learnings you can share? 😃I'm planning this and am doing the learnings now. Am very excited but nervous about getting it wrong!
Thank you! I was not getting sound for our church stream, this video was helpful
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Simple and effective tutorial! Thank you for helping me decide to invest in this useful piece of equipment.
My pleasure!
Thanks, very informative. The only problem I've had with this same setup is actually monitoring the audio. For some reason, the audio follows the HDMI if I'm capturing it from the pocket 6k, I'm having to jury rig it to a soundboard and push it through the cpu via all OBS, I don't even use the Blackmagic software anymore because of the lack of monitoring ability.
Thanks for watching! Audio is always a tricky thing especially when being portable and changing locations. Good luck with it all!
Thank you for sharing the knowledge Brother, God Bless.
You’re welcome 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for this video, very helpful.
Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏼
Excellent video. Thank you sir.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you for doing this, super informative, really cleared up the process for me. Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you! This was super helpful.
Glad to help! Thanks for watching
So helpful and beast to understand.
Thank you! 🙏🏼
Thank you for the information.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the tip my friend. I’ve also reviewed your other video reviews on this setup with the mini pro.
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Thanks Nick
nice advise, thanks bro
Thanks for checking it out!
Hi there great video thks, how do you get over the 29 minute recording limit of the cameras? I am keen to record from multi cameras (not live stream ) then edit in post, then upload. I understand some of the cameras have 29 minute limit in recording, thank you !!
This is dependent upon your cameras unfortunately. Some cameras have a 29 minute limit to prevent over heating and unfortunately you may have to stop recording at 29 minutes and start a new recording to continue. You can edit them together in your post production.
@@Ministry-Hacks if you connect to a swticher like an Atem mini pro, would you record past the 29 minute time?, as video would be recorded on the Atem Switcher
Hi, are you able to stream live to OBS preview screen and go live from OBS preview screen to UA-cam. Instead of live from black magic? I use graphics and a second monitor on OBS to stream live. Thank you.
Yes, you can go live from OBS. We use our stem primarily as a video switcher and not as a streamer
How about using pic in pic, creating still and motion background in atem mini pro.
We will try and get a video on some of that soon!
Can give direct live display to tv(screens) without streaming softwares using this ATEM MINI?
I’m not sure if the mini has it, but the mini pro does. You have to use the program/multi screen button to toggle which view you want
Did I miss something? How are you plugged into OBS and an SSD when it only has one USB-C port?
SSDs are plugged directly into our cameras for raw 4k recordings. OBS runs from the atem usbc output port.
@@Ministry-Hacks Ah that makes more sense
Great video.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Do you need the ethernet to be plugged into the Atem? Or can it be plugged into a router for your laptop?
The atem can tether off your computet internet connection via the usb-c cable.
Hi, what's the app on the larger screen? Is that an app comes with Atem 10?
That is the multi view output from the Atem.
Great content, my brother in Christ
Thank you 🙏🏼
At 14:35 , what are the ways you input that still?
You can load them in using the Atem Software Control. You need a computer to do it. Then go to the media tab and you can drop them in there
This is a wonderful teaching and overview. I am wondering, while using Pro Presenter (I see you are using OBS), when I play a video, I am not hearing or seeing the audio indication. Do you know what I need to adjust for the audience (program) to hear that audio from the video played within Pro Presenter?
If you are using OBS you need to set an audio source as well to go with the input for pro presenter.
almost all the info i was looking for. Thanks. LOvE
Somewhat helpful but you need and overhead camera so the we can see what buttons your pushing the at ATEM.
Thanks for the input! I’ll look into adding one in the future.
Thanks for understanding through the typos
Hello there, could you tell me is 1080p sufficient for decent quality for UA-cam streaming or just general podcasting because all the Atem’s seem to only do 1080p, I mean, would it even be wise to record in 4K, if the Atem’s only processing in 1080p?
Yes 1080p is definitely sufficient. With the right lighting and settings, 1080 can look amazing. But If you can record in 4k, I would definitely do that too for post production.
How do you output to stage monitors in your setup?
What type of stage monitor are you trying to output to? a video monitor?
Hi Meraki,
One more question.
Is it possible to work with Chroma Key background behind the attending presenters? To put them in another setting?
All the best J.
Yes it is!
I have 3 remote controlled cameras in the sanctuary. Can I point/move the cameras using the ATEM Mini Pro? How would that work?
You can’t control them from the atem but you can switch between cameras from atem. It’s a video switcher. You would need another device to control the cameras themselves
What type of USB C plug are you running out of the ATEM Mini Pro? I am running off Mac as well and can’t find a cable that picks up the ATEM as a webcam through USB C any help???
A thunderbolt 4 usb c type cable. Here is a link if you wanna grab one off Amazon
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Thank you for this response we got it working today! On another note, any idea why our hdmi out would not be working? Does it need a special cable or some monitors/TVs not compatible with ATEM mini pro out hdmi? Thanks for any help
You should just need a stand alone monitor of some sort. A tv should work too. But if it’s a laptop, it likely won’t work, at least not without some messing around with settings.
Thanks for this video. I wouldnlike to ask what if you will use the mixer of your church as your audio. What will be the process? I wanted the audio from the mixing board. Is it possible?
Definitely possible. you run an aux out from the mixer to the mic jack in the back of the atem. I’ll try and put a video together about it here soon
@@Ministry-Hacks i see. It the regular red and white aux? I am just researching for now how to use the aten mini and obs. For now my mixer is directly connected to the laptop for audio. So does it mean if you are using atem you need to use the aux? Thanks
Great video, very informative and easy to follow. Just a question...What is the benefit of using this over directly connecting everything to the computer? I'm new to this all and I have just been connecting the cameras and audio directly to the computer.
You don't have to use it, but is nice for a few reasons - For one, you can connect four cameras to switch between. Most computers have one HDMI port. Another reason its nice, the ATEM can record directly to a SSD which is good if you want to capture your livestream and not have to bog down your computer to record and stream. And it's super clean and simple to use. You can also stream directly from the AteM if you wanted to if you have the ethernet capabilities and speeds.
@@Ministry-Hacks Ah, I see. Thank you for explaining. I have 3 cameras hooked up via USB through a few cheap video capture devices. Haven't had any issues so far, but I can see the value of using the switcher instead. I'm now getting ideas on how to implement it into our setup lol. Thanks again !
No problem!
Watching from Namibia 🇳🇦, this was Very helpful. I have a question. We bought an Atem Mini which does not have multiview. What use will the HDMI Out be for if mulriview is not a feature in the normal Atem Mini?
You should still be able to have a program/preview output I believe and you can use the HDMI out to a monitor to see the camera angles (although not multi view as in seeing all the camera angles at the same time, you should be able to switch between them individually and see them one at a time) before actually cutting to that camera.
So you only add one video capture input into obs ? Instead of adding every camera individually?
Haha! Yes, just one usb c cable from the atem to the laptop.
Very helpful 👌🏿
Thanks for the feedback! 🙏🏼
Why Are using OBS???
OBS gives us more versatility to add motion graphics and videos to our stream. And when using the atem to stream we’ve found that the cache fills up rather quickly and can cause some disruptions to your stream.
I'm not fully through the video yet, however..... there seems to be a massive key thing from the git-go... how is OBS getting the video from the ATEM? Is it via USB? You already had the scene set up from the start... I don't see any capture card plugged into the MacBook, so i'm alittle confused as to how its getting the video... which was one of the main reasons as to why I'm watching the video in the first place lol... Needing to know 'how' that ATEM is getting video into OBS. I don't want to buy the ATEM to use with OBS if the computer running OBS has to also have a capture card. I'd just ditch the ATEM at that point and just throw in a few capture cards instead since OBS can handle all the stuff within itself...
I'ma finish the video and hope its maybe explained later lol. but just felt like i should leave some sorta thing 'now' expressing my concern since its 14 minutes into the video and i saw/heard nothing about how OBS is ingesting video lol.
There is a usb-c output from the atem that is connected to the computer. That’s how it gets the video. Real simple and easy.
its awesome good job
Thanks! 🙏🏼
This is a great video. Best explanation yet. Do you have a diagram you can share? I'm still figuring out the record part to an SSD.
Thank you! I will be doing another video here soon covering that and how to setup your setup.
Questions how do you fixed the troubleshooting on camera 1 with the green color
Not sure I know what you mean. Can you elaborate?
Hi mate, thanks for all the free information, the question is, if this all setup work if I want to record instead of livestreaming?
Its possible to compact 2 cameras on obs with atem mini, and than record from there? Big hug from portugal
Yes, you can record within OBS 👏🏼 just make sure you have enough hard drive space free and push the “record” button rather than the “start stream” button.
This is exactly what I was looking for, do you have a solution though for wanting to use 7 wireless Rhode microphones? I know you can connect 2 microphones per receiver, but the black magic only has 2 audio jacks right? So I can only connect 4 microphones if I'm correct?
What type of cameras are you using? You could connect one rode receiver to each camera and use the camera audio as your source and potentially have two mics per camera angle which would give you 8 total plus you’d have the two audio aux inputs on the atem as well.
Yeah I was thinking about doing that. I'm using a Panasonic GH5, a G9 II and a Fuji xh1. I was thinking about hooking up 1 DJI Mic to each of the cameras, which would give me 6 microphone outputs (I think I can set 1 mic to be left channel 1 to be right, as 2 mics can be hooked up to 1 DJI Receiver) and then a 4th DJI mic to one of the 2 mic inputs on the ATEM Mini. That way I have 4 receivers connected (3 connected to cameras, 1 connected to the ATEM Mini) and I'd be able to regulate each microphone level by adjusting the left or right channel for each camera. What do you think? @@Ministry-Hacks
Thank you for this video. It is of great value.
How are you connecting the SSD? Is it connected directly to your Mac?
Sorry if I missed this in the video, but I saw the Atem gets connected to the Mac via the USB C output and to the monitor via the HDMI output, but can’t figure out where the SSD is plugged into.
Thank you.
SSD is connected directly to camera via usc-c
@@Ministry-Hacks ah, okay. Thank you. So you are only recording one camera.
Thank you for this helpful video! I have a Lumix GH4 camera that I'm trying to connect with the ATEM MINI PRO ISO but I'm having trouble with it, the device isn't able to capture the video from camera. I see you have a GH2 camera so maybe you might have an idea of what I can do? I have replaced the HDMI cables twice. Thanks!
Hmm…. I had to get a mini hdmi to hdmi for my GH2 and it worked when I connected it. I had to cover the eye sensor to get a “ clean” feed.
@@Ministry-Hacks Thank you
Thanks, Im confused ( often, in fact :-) But seriously...I have a mackbook pro M1 with 2 large screen external monitors running off it currrently. I heard you say I need to run a thunderbolt cable to my computer , AND attach Atem Mini Pro ISO via HDMI cable to an external monitor? If the Mac is running the show why do I need another monitor ? Or is yoour point that the HDMI out from Atem needs to attach to dedicated Monitor via HDMI ?
If you want to be able to see all of the camera angels at the same time on the Atem multi view mode. You need another monitor. You don’t have to use it. This would be better used for when you have another producer in the back running the atem and switching between angles. So they aren’t switching blindly
can this device and software be able to record the livestream of 4 webcams at the same time for 8 hours? thank you in advance
You can record in OBS or using an external ssd on the ATEM. You would need the ATEM Mini ISO to record each camera individually to an ssd. The atem mini pro only records the 1 program output to the ssd. Here’s a link to the ISO if you wanna check it out.
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where do you have the sandisk drive connected to if the usb-c is connected to the MacBook ?
We capture the video in 4K directly from our cameras onto the sandisk drives
Hi meraki,
GREAT Content in this video - thanks so much!!!
How did you connect the SSD for saving the input from cameras and mics - for the later post-work?
All The Best
Jacob
We connected the SSDs directly to the cameras to record. You can connect the ssd to the atem usb c port to record if you’re not using that to stream
OK - First I thought that one single SSD could record the data from all the connected cameras - perhaps by connecting the SSD to the streaming computer. But that's not possible? One SSD for each camera?
Yes we use one ssd for each camera. But if you get the Atem mini pro ISO you can record all cameras to one ssd connected to the Atem
Hi @@Ministry-Hacks
Recording the data on one SSD-card. Would that be by connecting the SSD to the UBC on the back of the ATEM mini Pro ISO - and connect the OBS-computer and the ATEM over the Ethernet by Lancables and a switcher? Or do I have to get an ATEM streaming bridge? Sorry for all my questions!
Thats a nice one, i just got Mini Pro and want to stream through OBS instead of Atem software. How do you connected atem source to obs while you can see multiview on another screen
Thanks for watching and checking it out. I’ve found the OBS is a much better route to stream rather than the atem software. You need a usb c cable from your atem to your computer. Then in OBS, select video source and in the drop down menu you should be able to select “black magic design” and your atem program feed should show up on OBS screen. Then to use the multi cam view, you will need a separate monitor/tv/etc to see that via the hdmi out on the back of the atem. I hope this helps. Let me know if it does or not. Happy to help out!
@@Ministry-Hacks wowwwww. finally i can see it on my obs now.
thanks to this video @Ministry😇
I use atem mini pro and obs with 3 camera. But it seems display properties(rec, zoom in, zoom out etc) at 3rd camera which I had connected the latest hdmi cablo.
What type of camera is it? It may not have a “clean feed” option.
@@Ministry-Hackscamera is Sony FDR ax53. I found it. I turn off HDMI control in camera. And fix video 1080p. No problem. Thanks.
Awesome 👏🏼
amazin, thanks
Thanks for checking it out!
Great video brother
Thank you! 🙏🏼
I was wondering how to get the output of the 4 cameras on a simple monitor.
r u using any software to display all the inputs and the output on to one monitor? or is it a full PC?
or if i connect the out from the atem to the tv/monitor, will the screens display by itself in a way that's displayed in your video?
The atem provides the output to the monitor via the hdmi out.
@@Ministry-Hacks Thank you. My doubt was about the dispaly layout.the multiview setup. is that standard once the output comes from the atem to any typical monitor?
when i connect any monitor to the out cable from the atem, the 4 camera input, the preview and the program layout displays by itself or do i need any hardware/software other than that?
I think Atem mini pro has this multiview feature.
I have the atem mini pro. And my setup is the default setup. You can download the black magic switcher software to adjust some settings pertaining to the output.
@@Ministry-Hacks thank you for the details.
can you stream without a laptop? just a monitor.
Yes you can. You’d just need an internet connection to the Atem and set the stream key in the Atem
@@Ministry-Hacks thats what i thought. Just to confirm. When im setting the streaming key, the laptop doesn’t have to be connected to the Atem via type c right?
You do need to connect it to a computer to set the stream key. But after that you can disconnect and go without it
Hey man , do you have any idea how to mirror my Mac air to the atem min pro I want to show my audience screen from lab top.
You should just have to connect it via an hdmi cord to one of the camera inputs on the back of the Atem. Does the mac air have an hdmi out port?
@@Ministry-Hacksno it doesn’t what can I do
Get an adapter from apple. They should have one that’ll work for your situation
Given that you using the ATEM Mini Pro and have Restream, why do you use OBS? Using a dedicated encoder in ATEM Mini Pro should give an advantage if you have a service like restream to manage the multiple locations to stream to?
OBS gives more versatile options while streaming. Like adjusting bitrate and adding scenes or video intros.
And the atems cache fills up quickly when trying to use it as the encoder for longer high quality streams and we’ve had it drop frames and lag a bit when using it solely. you definitely don’t need to use OBS with it tho but for our setup it works pretty welll
So the extra monitor is not required to stream If im just going to use atem to switch cameras ?
Hi, thx for this very instructive video. Can you tell me how to stream into Skype? Cheers from Germany, stay healthy
Thousands of hours streaming with an ATEM Mini Pro since 2021. This is a mistaken conclusion because, “cache filling” on an ATEM Mini Pro is caused by Internet connection throughput varying too low. ISPs bank on nobody ever noticing this reality inherent in their offerings.
It’s not a problem from the ATEM, it’s a problem from variable effective internet upstream rate.
Unless you are in a data centre with an internet connection that cannot operate at any rate other than saturated at its specified maximum (such as 1Gbps symmetric) you are using a “bursty” multiplexed Internet connection.
The vast majority of internet connections in urban areas are asynchronous bursty consumer connections and 99% of people don’t even know what this means to them.
ATEM (or other streaming) high data rate is a use case that reveals the limitations of bursty internet connections. They sell it by telling you it’s “high speed” and they don’t mention the lowest possible speed in the averages can sometimes be zero. Oops.
Again, in a data centre there’s only one rate available 1Gbps for example. Different animal altogether.
If you use the highest data rate the ATEM supports and have who knows how many other people using the same internet connection or how at the same time, you are going to have variable rate congestion constantly.
There just may not be enough variable rate “holes” in that to sustain an upstream data rate that’s too high for that number of variable rate holes. Problem with this is also if you’re in a heavy use area you may have to figure lower than half the average for reliability.
My suggestion if you are stuck with this scenario:
a) get a separate internet connection - even from a different internet provider, particularly if the first one is via cable.
b) ookla that new upstream at least ten times, average the worst cases and figure no more than half that amount is the reliable sustainable upstream you can expect from that “high speed” internet connection, and don’t expect the ATEM to be able to get all the data through an internet connection that can’t keep up.
“Cache filling” isn’t a fault of the ATEM. It’s the ATEM warning you it’s the fault of the internet connection that can’t accept the data from the ATEM fast enough. The ATEM is doing everything right and the internet connection hasn’t got the throughput, so it’s telling you where the problem is.
You get the exact same error on M/V if you record to an SSD that isn’t rated at least USB-C 3.1 Gen 1, although I’d stick to USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 from my own experience. This is ATEM telling you you can’t fit 50 pounds of mud in a ten pound sack as Dolly Parton’s daddy used to tell her.
“Faster” internet MAY aggregate the problem away. Fractional symmetric (ie not typical bursty ISP offering) Internet connection or lower upstream data rate like in a data centre is the only true solve.
I know what I’m talking about too.
Hello, if my laptop does not have a usp-c port, what kind of capture do you recommend for this?
You can buy an external ssd harddrive to capture to it. Just connect it vi the usbc port on the atem to your ssd and make sure you hit record on the atem and it’ll capture the program output. Or you could try a usbc to a usb cable to try and use your computer.
@@Ministry-Hacks I watch all your movies
You explain very well
Like a professor
Only thing in the video you didn’t do is show how to set up scenes.
OBS Studio + ATEM Mini Pro Setup
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How do you stop the lag, I tried this and it was a few seconds off. I couldn't figure out why. It looked great on the monitor, but on obs it was off a few seconds at least.
If you are live-streaming, there is going to be a small lag time/latency. Although you may notice on your screen, your audience shouldn't be able to tell
How do you record? The atem mini pro only have one usb input for video capture from camera. Record from obs ok? And what computer is strong enough to record from obs
We record to external ssd drives on our black magic cameras. The usb c output on the atem will record the program output to an external drive which we have done, but it only records in 1080 and you can’t change camera angles so your shot has to be pre though out a bit. The atem mini pro iso will record all cameras as well as the program output to an external drive, although only in 1080. As for recording on OBS, make sure your settings are correct and optimized for what your computer can handle. My Mac Studio can record on OBS in 4K pretty easily. And my MacBook can record in 1080 no problem. So I’d check your settings.
We use the atem primarily for a livestream video switcher.
What about internet? What's the best way for get that set up?
I use the Wi-Fi with my laptop but if you can go Ethernet that’s the best way.
That was really helpfull. Question though, can i use only my laptop to run blackmagic software and have a multiview with another app so i don't have to use a monitor? I'm trying to set this up as minimal as possible.
I have not found a great work around for that yet. I would love that as well. You can use your black magic software on the laptop and stream, but I not with the multi view simultaneously :/
bro how to get Blackmagic Audio In OBS Studio i watch your video and i do the same thing but obs can't get the audio . Audio shows in the Blackmagic but not in obs
You have to add the audio input source “black magic” on OBS as well as the video input.
@@Ministry-Hacks I want sound from mixer but in OBS it only showing blackmagic microphone. i used RAC to 3.5mm Stero Cable
Thank you Brother. Great content. Straight to the point that why I watched until the end.
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Thank you for watching!
Agree with you. So rare to want to watch to the end!
Thanks for sharing your wisdom. I know this is a HUGE help to us at our church. Do you have any recommendations for connecting an IPhone to the stem mini pro wirelessly? We want to use it as another camera for different shots. If you have covered this already I’m sorry. I just discovered you…😂
Thanks for checking it out! Glad to help. I’m learning a lot as well for our church and some new technology. I don’t know specifically how to use an iPhone wirelessly with an atem but I’m sure there is a wireless hdmi caster out there that would work for it. 🤔
@@Ministry-Hacks thanks man
No problem!
very helpful. Thanks!
Our pleasure!
Wow here I am maxing out my laptop with usb to hdmi capture card 😂
It happens to the best of us lol
This was GREAT! Thanks! 👍
Our pleasure!