Why People HATE The BaoFeng Ham Radio!
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- I have created what I think are some very informative videos on the BaoFeng family of radios here on UA-cam. I get comments on these videos daily and its always one of two kinds of comments. Favorable comments and abject hate comments all centered on the BaoFeng.
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In this video I try and explain why I think the BaoFeng and comparable Chinese radios get so much hate.
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Disagree!
Do you still need a ham license to transmit on a emergency frequency you use for employment?
Love my uv6r..ha. It does not have all the goodies and options available as the uv 5r so I handle with care, complete xmit check out, buzy ch lockout engaged, programmed in my licensed band allotment, respect that bandwidth and share the air.
Never stop learning about the hobby and be prepared for the unexpected.
Build your own fixed base antenna, and your quick setup portable and your fox hunt hand beam/yagi to find the stashed hidden transmitter ! Hi hi and seek
73, everyone
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@@EMTxLIFE no I my case county holds the liscence
I am Kenyan, without the Baofengs its obvious I would never have owned a radio. I just love them. They are all I know
Obama’s brother?
@@7seasons31 😂😂😂 Definitely not. Probability of one being his brother here is very low. Though I know his half brother a bitter guy known as Hussein Obama
@@7seasons31 Winston Churchill brother?
Rather than pander to arrogant HAM's, how about breaking them of the delusion that BaoFengs are "HAM radios"?
From other videos it's clear you know that... They're Part 90 radios HAM's may conditionally use, under old regulatory notions that HAM's know how to build or maintain gear, which today means proprietary computer test beds and robotic pneumatic SMD PIC's and micro-bath wave soldering. Ahem, really? Just like telcos have "4-wire" fiber, or before that microwave, or talk about T-1's that are DS-n but not T-carrier ancient history.
FWIW, I've had an FCC 1st or broadcast inclusive General w/ RADAR since mid 1970's, so may be a graying non-HAM, licensed to handle HPA's that could melt most HAM gear, literally.
I own some BaoFeng stuff because it's an amazing value for what it is. Better videos on 3rd party software to make up for BaoFeng's crap or the poor keypad UI could be helpful.... And I do set some channels to be incapable of accidentally transmitting, with a mix of Part 90, NOAA, public safety, marine, etc programmed. It'd also be nice to have a better display to identify what channels are, as that's hard to remember (maybe some high views video producer could hint that to BaoFeng?).
County 022
My Baofeng may be cheap, but it is better than no radio at all
I just passed the technician and General exams and honestly I knew two to three answers from tinkering around with my Baofeng UV-5R. I have been using it as a scanner and listening the protocols of local nets. Baofeng is what got me in ...... now it’s forward. 😀
Connect it ti an 200 watt rf amp with an external antenna lets see if they those 5 watter yaesu can still transmit around you, let see if they can modulate with each other, lol! If your class B. You are allowed 500 watts max on hum
It's okay to love your cheap baofeng brother.
Update - Extra passed. Still have much to learn. Ham UA-cam videos are a great place to start. Baofeng still a part of the arsenal. 73
Agreed
Cheap, Poorly made? My Baofeng is 15 years old. I used it as my backup as a Firefighter/Paramedic. It saved my bacon more than once when my expertly made, expensive department issued Kenwood decided to die. Still works today, original battery. Oh yeah, I'm licensed too and an "older guy". Kenwood's are great when they work. My baofeng just works.
I am having a problem finding a ham radio group in the area I live in in south Louisiana that can help me with my test and help me with my radios
Fuck yeah.older wiser
Say it brother...mine too😊👍
I had a Courier Ham radio.
@@kenwardjcoker9555
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I think, at least in many cases, people get upset about the whole licensing topic because they like the feeling of belonging to a semi-exclusive club and they don’t like that people unwilling or uninterested to learn the technical side of things can still play with the gear.
This is a good point. But I feel that first group should probably do a bit more outreach to bring other in and teach them the way they feel they people should be taught.
I am a licensed ham operator and could care less about unlicensed operators. People can do what they want as long as they accept the risk of doing so. In an emergency, you do what you have to do. For me, being licensed allowed me to join a club and learn how to use the equipment and ask questions as I am not very bright!!
James Becker good. But there are a lot of licensees who don’t feel that way.
@Ghost Rider I thought you were just an opinionated iggernant ass until I realized you don't exist and you're just trolling. Nice one! The grammar fuckups really added a layer of realism, too.
The "technical side" of the exam is only one third of the test. The exam includes questions on radio theory, radio law and operating practices. That's what separates Amateur Radio Operators from those on the Criminal Band.
B.F. makes a version of their HT that is a tri-band, it includes the 220 band. as well as the 2M/70CM bands. It uses the same battery as the dual band version, but it also includes an additional antenna for 220. Yes, I know that it's now called the 222 band, but I have been using repeaters on that band before the Funny Candy Company chopped the lower 2 MHz off. So I still call my Midland and my B.F. a 220, and I only refer to my Sako as a .222.
I bought six Baofeng UV5R'S. I put one in each room and transmit to myself. I respond with different voices to give it that apocalyptic feeling.
rookie. i have a repeater (two baofengs) in the living room, ht in each room........sometimes i hang a carrier on myself.
Make sure to use 8Watts
Preppers get'em, because when SHTF, it won't matter who's licensed or not...
That is true, but its going to be hard to an effective operator if you don't learn the skills and practice now before anything bad comes our way.
Yeah but if you dont know protocol and your calling for help will you get the help you need
@@iwantosavemoney Unless you are contacting someone you already know, you'd be wasting your breath. In a true SHTF world chances are no one is coming to help you. They are all trying to survive themselves.
@illyounotme sometimes when dealing with the government and licensure if the license has lapsed and it has not been too long of a. Of time you might be able to sit in the money in and get your license anyway renewed that's just my hypothesis dealing with the government
It doesn't now. Fuck all these rule nazis. This AMERICA, not the snooty UK
I have two. I am disabled. My spine is just chalk and I live in non stop chronic pain. I am studying for my tech and general licenses. If it were not for inexpensive gear and improvised diy antennas the hobby would be beyond my abilities to engage in. Those who complain about it can stick it and their kids will be dumping their tens of thousands of dollars worth of gear for a quarter less of what a penny is worth on a dollar, that is if they do not straight dump it into the trash. Something to think about at estate sales.
I was licensed 49 years ago and have had my extra for about 45 of those years. I started off with 2nd hand Motorola VHF radios and Heathkits. Over the years, I’ve had a lot of equipment from Icom, Yaesu, and Kenwood and still have a fair amount of it. I also have UV5Rs I use for hiking. My wife is also licensed, so we use 2M or 70CM while hiking, but I like the Baofeng because I can program in MURS and FRS to use in emergencies. They’re also basically disposable, so if one falls off a cliff or sinks into a lake, I really don’t care. We also have type accepted FRS, GMRS, and MURS when we need them to talk to friends or while caravaning. It’s nice to carry one radio while hiking, rather than three, although the Tera TR505 is a good compromise as it’s legal for MURS, GMRS, and Ham, but only supports 16 channels.
I'm an amateur extra and my only radio is a Baofeng BF-F8HP! ...and if it weren't for Father's Day gift giving and my daughter's concern that being a Ham with no radio is kinda sad, I would have no radio! When you're very poor (mostly due to a stint in the hospital and not working for 6 months afterward), you don't have the money for anything but a Baofeng! I'll be paying bills for another 15-20 years (if I don't declare bankruptcy). ...and at 64, try to find a job beyond being a greeter at Walmart! Fortunately, I've been self employed for the last 30 years, and I can earn a fair amount, but the banks take most of it now. ...and the government, the rest! I'm very thankful for my little Baofeng!!!
Hang in there Robert, I have been a ham since I was in the Boy Scouts I am now 62 years old now, I have owned several old tube receivers Halicrafter, National 33 and a National 109 and a Yasue HT, and just today I decided to become active again in Ham radio so I ordered the programming cable a 771 antenna and the radio for $78.00 I paid for my yasue 23 years ago.
stay strong papa
American hams do not see what you are saying, they expect EVERYONE on the air to have thousands of dollars / pounds worth of gear you may use only on special occasion.. They LOVE to tell you what they want you to do and list off all their expensive crap to gloat about in the comments sections on here and on forums whether its actively per post or in a signature for the sole purpose to make people like you feel inferior..
I say if all you can afford is an under $100 HT and you enjoy it, good deal.. You are no less of a ham op IMO..
What a great kid. I can buy whatever radio I want and I chose a BF8-HP, amazing piece of tech. I am sorry for your health problems but obviously you've have a very loving daughter.
I'm an Extra myself, and the only radio I have at the moment is a Baofeng UV-82. The few times I've used it, it worked like a charm. 73, de NK4TE
Interesting take on these. I got my amateur licenses back in 1974/75 here in VE6-land, which I guess makes me one of your "old guys." I've had a number of radios over the years, mobile & handheld, & none were cheap. That said, in 2012 I came across the Baofeng UV-5R on Amazon after receiving a $50 gift certificate. The UV-5R was on sale, & I was astonished to find that I could buy the handheld and ALL accessories - spare battery, AA battery case, hand mic, 1/2-wave high-gain antenna, programming cable, mini magmount mobile antenna, Cordura belt pouch, hands-free earpiece & mic, cigarette lighter cable for the battery charger, and a 12V direct-power car adapter - all for $52.50 Canadian, delivered. It seemed worth a look, so I ordered everything. That gift card went to good use!
I've had 5 years of trouble-free use from the UV-5R, foot- or bike-mobile, in my car, tent camping, traveling, or sitting on my kitchen table. I made up a small "travel case" for the radio & accessories. If I'm flying somewhere & renting a car, it's great. It fits easily into my suitcase, & if it's lost or stolen, I'm not out big $.
The UV-5R is a rig I can suggest to new amateurs, some of whom don't have much spare cash. A UV-5R gets them on the air & into the community. Gradually they find higher-end radios, often at club swap meets, but by then they've got a better idea of what's available & what they want. I think these rigs have helped bring new people of all ages into the hobby.
Yes, I have "better" VHF/UHF rigs from Kenwood, Icom & Yaesu, and yes the overall quality of those is much higher. But so are the price tags. I've had a couple stolen, too, but nobody's snitched the UV-5R. Sure, there are gripes about them. Even so, critics usually have one or two, for knocking around or "just in case."
I've found that to be true. The loudest critics still own one or two. Its OK for them to own them, they just don't want everyone else that hasn't met their expectation to have them.
Exactly i hold a A full UK Licence M1 from the Old City & Guilds I find this and expectation is a real stumbling block but all we can do is inspire and educate rather than condemn. As condemnation is futile just brings disappointment and sows the seeds of resentment which is Japanese knot weed of the hobby both hard to be rid of and requires expensive intervention.
When I think of ham radio I think of a dude with a giant table with a bunch of big boxes and a microphone lol
Like on ALF. Lol.
Lol, that's called HAM shack, where you have big ass box equipments which are capable to do the work heavy. But these walkie talkie are mobile
That's because there is another ham that is not VHF or UHF it's called h F a m. Real ham
@@wokzip so is the CB with a hundred watt linear on skip..
I just bought my first SWR meter. I was laughing because I have only known old guys to have them. then I remembered my age.
I gotta say, the only reason that I got into ham radio, is because the price point of Baofengs lent itself to me trying it out and learning about different things. Chirp was definitely a help. I'm still using my UV-5R 8 years later. Haven't had any problems with it.
I dropped a Baofeng straight on a rock, it fell on its edge. The battery flew away, but I simply put it back in. It works no problem since and has worked for over two years.
I dropped one off a 200 foot tower onto a metal building. Scared everyone inside. The frame is a little bent but the battery still attaches and it works.
hang on let me go try to one up this story brb.
My 5RA has been my convention radio for 12 years. Not missed a beat.
I do this with my Kenwood all the time - a lot of radios are at least capable of this
Edit: but, you know, costs way more. Just pointing out that as a planet we’re pretty good at making hard plastic now.
I love them. People have donated many BaoFeng to a high school near by allowing students to get into Ham Radio. I personally started my grown kids out with these radios. Few people will spend a few hundred dollars to get into a hobby to be ridiculed by grumpy old men. Instead of down playing the cheap radios and newbies, how about encouraging and teach them about the hobby.
+Steve Pace , You pegged the nail right on the head! I was fortunate that my are was very hospitable for a new HAM starting at 20 years old. I got more help and encouragement than I could ever repay. There's so much negativity on the internet when there should never be in the first place!
Great comment!
yes, rule number one. do NOT get one of these radios. lets be honest. that is not doing any new ham any favors. especially all the other hams on the air that have to listen to the signal from a bofang. i am an extra class ve and would not recommend this radio to anyone.
I always seemed to get the "I learned it the hard way, you need to do it, too!!" from the "cranky old hams"... fortunately, there aren't too many of them around here...
Steve Pace totally agree ! Some of the “ old hams “ me included ... would like to see the younger ones carry on the interest in ham radio, and the diversity that it offers. I met “ old hams “ that would rather see the interest in the same die rather than forego code, and simplified testing just because “ they “ had a tough time getting into the hobby when they were young. Let me tell you as a former Federal Government employee that worked in communications / enforcement for over 35+ years ... as hungry as the Commerce is for the lower frequency spectrum, they would LOVE to get their hands on the 140 to 150 meg band and the uhf / 440 ( 70 cm ) band, would be a God send for them as well and you know the old saying, “ use it, or lose it “
and that Steve is my two cents worth.
Legend has it that NASA sent a Baofeng into a super sized black hole and it’s still transmitting to this day 😂
Its true
Ok, NOW, I'm going to get one!! Not until you told me that important little tidbit though. 👽
That was Elan Musk. Its in that damn Tesla plugged into the cigg socket
NASA CANT EVEN REACH A BLACK HOLE. Lol
If they could, you'd have been dead long ago.
You been watching too much star trek.
Everything nasa has ever said is a lie
Just bought one. I'll work on the license next.
The Baofeng is the crack of Ham Radio. It gets you hooked and you move on to better and more expensive radios.
I like that analogy.
you mean gateway drug.. you dont start with crack and move onto other less powerful drugs lol
The insanely affordable UV-5R is why I even considered pursuing this as a hobby.
My friend recently got his technician license, and I was thinking to myself, "Wow that's impressive, but there goes another money sink." But then he linked me to the UV-5R which I ended up getting. Because it had so many more buttons than the usual bubble pack radios, I went down this internet rabbit hole of learning how to use it. And as a result, my curiosity and interest grew... and I've inadvertently started studying to get my license, which I hope to get some time later this year!
Also, you would think the covid era would've been a great opportunity to recruit new people into the hobby as an excuse for encouraging social distancing.
It is absolutely important to have a cheap and ok quality radio to attract people into our hobby. My first radio was a Baofeng way before I got my ticket and that motivated me to get the license eventually. That radio still looks and feels as if new even after 8 years of its service.
County 022,
I loved my baofeng I used it on my fire Department and it actually out performed the name brand radios on many occasions I used them on search and rescue missions as well and it's performance never failed me
Hey, Chuck Hodges. Did you get it from Wish?
@@sharenagray8102 huh? Wish?? My friend on search and rescue dispatch base station oredered it for me! I have no idea where but I like my baofeng
We use them while hunting in the Rockies. They perform great!
Dropped mine a few times....no problems.
Old ops are just mad because they love their elevated title and status and think it's a license to Lord it over new ppl to the hobby. If you spend any time at all listening to 7200 or 3860, you will hear what's really killing the hobby and it's not coming from the technician class....
Michael Menges nope I’ve had my license longer than you have been alive, there’s no snobbery son just people interested in the hobby of radio communications, you have nice day now
@@stevenbarrett7648 your reply is snobby and proved him right lol. Nice try though "son"
@@stevenbarrett7648 You demonstrated my point to a tee with your condescending comments. Not really sure what your license holding time has to do with my original points made. You don't even need a license at all to listen to 7200, 3860, etc and hear the behavior thats going out on the air by mostly Extra class operators while they gripe and complain about their precious frequency space being handed over to the "lower class sub-human operators" So what CW is no longer part of the testing requirements? Most who complain about that couldn't pass the CW test if it were given to them today. Don't hear them complain about no RTTY or PSK operating skills being part of the test. If you have a problem with my statements then come back to me with factual information, I welcome the respectful debate and leave the dogmatic statements behind.
@@stevenbarrett7648 listen to you, lol. You have zero self-awareness. I've considered getting involved in ham, but if people like you are involved, I'll pass. Have a good day, son.
StewartLucrative Don't you mean ”old man” or ”pops” or even ”old fart?”
I got back into amateur radio a few years ago. I received my General Class three years ago and plan on getting my Extra Class this year. When I passed my Tech. License I purchased a Baofeng BF- F8HP and am very satisfied with it! And I am 70 yrs.old. Here is a shout out to you for the videos you produce. Keep up the excellent work.
I’m testing for Technician this weekend, Baofeng already shipped. Great video 👍
I have 6 baofengs. I'm still technically breaking the law but i am not bothering anyone. I'm going to take my test in December.
Did you pass???? Any tips
Elitism is a common human condition and exists in just about every hobby i was ever around. Its the same for all professions etc etc. Ignore it and enjoy yourself.
Grzegorz Durda
There is a difference in elitism and hard work. Do the work to receive your license.
So true.
I've said it 100 times, they are a good entry level radio for new hams.
Eventually they'll move on to the big three or whatever quality radio. keep up teaching about amateur radio.
Ronald k4get what are the big three?
@@toneloc415 Kenwood, Yaesu & ICOM are my guesses.
What are the big three?
I love my baofeng radios. They are inexpensive, get the job done, and are affordable to most people. Win win WIN.
I bought my latest UV5R on Amazon as a package deal, with external mike, charger/cradle, USB programming cable for $52 US... You can't beat that!!!
@@lvsluggo007 me too. It is a great learning platform.
They rank high on eBay too.
@@lvsluggo007 i ordered one from amazon for 25$
Is there an adaptor (that fits into battery compartment) that will allow their radios to be powered externally (plugged into wall/cig lighter inncar/etc)?
I've been interested in ham radios since I was a teen. The baofeng is affordable now and now I can actually get into the ham field
they hate the baofeng because its cheaper and as durable as other brands and they're butthurt they didn't buy it before. I have a baofeng UV-5R and have NO troubles at all. I can monitor both UHF and VHF frequencies with ease.
True
Ash, well no, not really. We dislike "Baofeng Techs" who buy these radios after they get their tech licenses and think that's all there is to ham radio because they think a rubber duck works perfectly fine inside a car while they commute. Their weak signal fail to hold repeaters and they refuse to even contemplate upgrading to a mobile.
..and upgrading to general or extra is out of the question!
*A pox on them!*
The receive on these things sucks - I can't hear a mile with one, line of site.. down a road! I could see the guy. I knew he was transmitting because the guy next to me with the Kenwood HT heard just fine. They are a great back up radio.. the one you toss in the car, but as a first radio? No!
Mary Joseph must be broke
Of course it's broke. It's a Baofeng.
I have one I've been using to listen and scan frequencies.
I'm not yet licensed, and when I am I don't plan on transmitting with it.
In a SHTF scenario, I would not bat an eye handing them out to my family and friends to keep in close contact in a small unit structure.
Yeah I am in the same boat. I love the radio scene I’ve always been into it since I was a kid but I don’t like the fact that my personal info is on a public website and I have to identify myself and anyone who’s listening can see where I live and my name. I’m all for training and etc but I don’t understand that part of it. Also I listen to the local repeater and any time someone new comes in they get trash talked and ignored by the old farts.
I can confirm.
I got my nephews some walkie talkies for Christmas a couple years back and a while later I decided I'll get myself and my girlfriend a couple so we can use them outdoors in some places where phones are often crap. I started looking at different walkie talkies - motorolas mostly - and even with the ones reaching 100 GBP I still only get the max range of 5km. I ended up researching why, I checked if the radios we use at work have better capabilities - they do, but also cost ~500 GBP so that's out of the question. They also work on different frequencies. Then suddenly this Baofeng shows up on my amazon page. 20 quid? more power? more range? Oh, it also covers similar range of frequencies as the motorolas we use at work. What is this thing. I must have typed UV-5R into youtube and from wanting to buy a cheap walkie talkie for fun I ended up tripping face first into the world of ham radio, slowly learning anything I can find about it. Joined a few message boards, subscribed a few channels on youtube and when I saw a guy listen and make contact with the ISS using a handheld with "the right antenna" I decided that this is the ultimate nerd hobby and I need in. Best spent 20 quid ever. Came with a ton of accessories and I learned enough to get a replacement for the standard rubber duck antenna to come with it and I was about to get licensed, when corona hit. The clubs closed down, etc. Now I just confirmed I can get licensed online, so that's what I'm doing next week. My girlfriend was also interested when I first told her (all) about it and if we do both get licensed I'm planning on having a HT each and a desktop rig for home. We're also pretty lucky that there's a repeater about 1.5 km away from us and seems to cover a large chunk of the city.
All the Baofeng had to do was be there for 20 quid and I'm about to get licensed. And of course in the process I've been exposed to these huge, beautiful i-com or kenwood or what have you stations. I want one. I will get one eventually.
I'm getting one just for emergencies when I'm in the backwoods. Thank you for your videos - and yes I will get licensed. The more people out there with a handheld radio like this - the more ears there are out there to hear you if there is an emergency - this is key. If you see these as a life saving device for rural communities - than everyone should have one.
I have no problem using cheap equipment if it's decent. I wouldn't trust my life to that thing. For another $10 You can get a Wouxun which is actually a fabulous little radio.
"When" SHTF my Baofung will do just fine. Until then it receives just FINE
It actually receives better than the expensive brands. It is completely unlocked.
STUDY and pass your license exam NOW! Don't be like the "first time gun buyers" that have something that they do not know how to use properly.
@@indridcold8433 “receive better” and “wider band” are not the same thing.
Excellent message here ... I always wanted to be a HAM from when I first learned of it---getting a license is my goal, and this radio was in the price range to be a good start to becoming a fevered hobbyist. I never met a man who only owned 1 boat. The second he learns he loves boating, he is looking at his next boat. This video helped me to learn that I wasn't suppose to transmit in FRS.
Wow. I discovered a 3 year video that I can learn from. I subbed to this channel earlier in the week after I ordered my Baofeng from Amazon along with a Ham Radio tech book and an upgraded antenna. I don't know the first thing about this hobby or about radios or about electronics. The reason for me trying to get licensed and using a radio was mainly because I want to go hunting again after 23 years and being much older and not in the best physical shape any more I thought it would come in handy should I ever have a emergency out in the middle of nowhere and not have cell phone coverage. But the more I watch of these videos the more it makes sense to own one or more of them, with everything that is going on in this Country and the world right now. I may have a cheap radio coming, but I am now convinced that I will dedicate myself to learning as much as I can and pass my tech licence test. I also hope to be able to meet some good people as I develop and expand my equipment in the years to come. I would just like to add that I really enjoy and appreciate these videos. I already learned quite a bit. Sorry for such a long post.
I love my UV-5R.
I have a Yaesu FT-50R that I found in the woods and restored. It's a MIL spec radio, but it's power button is crap, it's battery pack likes to split off if you drop it, and it's built-in menu is like navigating Tokyo at rush hour.
I program my Baofeng using my netbook and CHIRP.
I parked my truck on top of it once and it still works and it looks decent.
It cost $40 bucks.
You can't beat it with a stick.
I don't think that last statement of yours is quite accurate; have you actually ever _tried_ to strike your radio with a stick..? I bet you'll find you can hit _anything_ if you just believe in yourself... Now go out, punch an oak tree and above all, keep your chin up!
@@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG, I have a severe tree shortage in my area-what with having burnt them all down trying to load them up as various antennas, but I'd like to test your theory nonetheless...
Being the innovative sort and not averse to improvisation-I'd appreciate it if you'd stand still for a minute while I visualize an oak tree. *swings stick*
You'll do for now.
;)
These radios have made the amateur radio hobby "entry point" vastly more accessible! Many phenomenal operators have got involved, upgraded to General & Extra and made substantial contributions to the hobby - that started with a Chinese HT! Great video! ~WM8A
Love your vids man. I'm taking the Technician and General license tests in Feb and I've learned a ton from your videos. I bought a BF-F8HP and have been scanning my local channels. Got chirp working and programmed in all the local repeaters and NOAA channels and have just been listening. Can't wait to get my Call Sign so I can start talking to folks.
I'm reviewing for my license and I got interested in amateur radio by buying a boafeng BF-F*8HP and learning from it. I always considered ham radio to be an expensive hobby but the more affordable Chinese radios made me considering taking up the hobby. I do intend to keep my baofeng and upgrade to an icom or yaesu HT and consider the two brands for a base radio, but I now have lower priced alternatives that I can consider.
For getting people interested in amateur radio, I think the baofeng radios are great!
I now have 3 BaoFeng radios (2 HT and a Mobile). They allowed me to get back into a hobby I haven't participated in since the early 1970's. I got my Tech license, studying for general and extra, and looking for higher end radios to build out my "radio shack". I got back into it because it cost me $25 not 500 to get my first radio.
As the excellent video points out, the Baofeng have their place!
John: of course there are more than a few "hams" on CB if you monitor MHz
Frank Stapanowich
I'm an old ham. Originally licenced as a novice in '73 when I had to learn code. I stopped at advanced class but have been rather inactive. I'm pleased the radios prices have dropped. I may get back in the game.
Yeasu. Rsdio
I got my ham license in '93 when I lived in the states and I had to learn code then.. It changed soon after. I forfeited my US ham license and got a Russian one when I left the states.. The rules here are easy and common sense based..
Your enthusiasm for the field is great! Very encouraging.
Love my Baofeng radios, but I also bought some cheap, cheap, cheap FRS/GMRS radios for emergency purposes ... and for the kids. I watched your CHIRP programing video and now have them all programed with the 14 FRS channels in order and the first two GMRS channels. I did spend my 70 bucks for the 10 year GMRS license. I have six Baofeng UV-5R+ radios and I just ordered the BF-F8HP because I'm power hungry. I used to have an FM Business band duplex radio setup with a phone patch and all kinds of other goodies. When we went to cell phones, my radio setup went by the wayside. I wish I had kept it, but I became disabled in 2003 and had to give up farming, so I sold my radio setup for cheap at my farm sale. I should have no saled everything and kept my system. My antenna was 97 feet to the top and and was a break-over pole I made from oilfield pipe. I could reliably talk anywhere in a 60 mile radius, sometimes more on my handheld units. It was great and I loved my setup. So now I'm 70 and I'm getting into HAM. I'm hoping I can get my son, who moved back to the farm, though he isn't farming, interested, so we can take our tests at the same time. I would be using an app on my phone, but my screen broke and died. So until I can get the screen replaced, I'm back on my laptop, though I can see the screen on my laptop much better than the screen on my smartphone. I've been enjoying your videos, keep up the good work, but your live stuff drags on and on and on and on, but I did learn how to use CHIRP to program my various radios, but it should have taken less than half as long as it did. Think about it sometime.
Best part of the Baofeng, is that when I'm out with the ARES group, and I drop the radio and it gets damaged, I just grab the backup and keep going. If I drop and break my Icom, I would first cuss badly, which is not good when in public, then I cry at the loss of $500.00. Which is also bad when in public. So I use my "disposable" Baofeng when using it in an environment that posses a great risk of damaging it. They clearly serve a purpose that the big manufacturers have failed to address.
P Toth you know that little strap that's attached to the side of the radio with a loop on the end? It's there for a reason. Perhaps you should look into its purpose.
I have dropped my Icom - many times - it didn't break. I dropped the Baofeng and it broke.
Agreed, somewhere in Red Rock outside Las Vegas is a Baofeng Bf-f8hp with a Nagoya antenna and extended battery... I didn't bother retracing my steps which could have caused greater risk to everyone.
Mary Joseph no IT NOT
Best civilian radio I've used. Even beats our military ones in some aspects
Better than military? Which one...the People's Army of China?
Raymond Frye your assumption that Military radios are superior amuses me lmao
@@icebox829 Well,it stands to reason that military spec. radios have to be rugged, for all types of terrain, under fire,etc...unless,of course, they're built for some specialized, intelligence agency.IMO
Ours are tough, water proof, and have high-tech encryption.....that is all. The range sucks for sure
@@GruntProof the range?
Thank you for your reply. I purchased the Baofeng UV-9R plus and I just ordered the Baofeng BF -F9 V2+ I really enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work. Thank you again for your reply.
I think that this is truly amazing. When I was a kid, my neighbor was a ham. He had tube radios and they filled a large room in his basement. I can’t believe that this nearly replaces that.
The larger tube radios were likely for working High Frequency (HF). Those radios can still be rather larger today, but we cram alot more features in them than in the past. This hand-held radio is more of a more power walkie-talkie.
Amen! I got my ham licence because I wanted this radio. Now I am studying for my General and building my own antenna (what fun)!!! Bottom line, I got hooked on this hobby because of these entry level radios and my friends are studying for the Technician test to use these radios!
Mark Wahl:
And so does some of the kids in my area.
When i heard them first, i thought they had toilett paper ducktaped on their mouthes and couldn't understand them at all. The reason was their dirt cheap and bad PMR-Radios that had pretty useless microphone capsules built in.
I recommended them to buy better radios (Baofengs) to go with them instead. I programmed them to PMR and Freenet channels for them and they were much better to understand then.
Two of these kids are licensed ham radio amateurs and one is currently working on it.
I know that using them on PMR and Freenet is illegal, but it is not hurting anyone and kids learn to apply to rules themselfes without getting limited by the technology of the device itself.
PMR is a european wide license free frequency range like GMRS/FRS in the United States it is on 446 Mhz and has by now 16 analog channels
Freenet is a german frequency range, also license free and has currently 6 analog channles on 149 Mhz.
I understand MURS is leagle to use with no licence under 2 watts (double check that). BaoFeng can be programmed with all 5 MURS channels.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Use_Radio_Service
I am a licensed General and this was my 1st 2-meter radio. I hated it Transmit performance with the stock antenna sucks, Menu system is difficult to use, Moving VFO to memory when offset's and PL tones are involved is hard. Why did you like this radio? I want to like it, but after spending $60 dollars or so for a new antenna and programming cable it still seems sub-par at best. I have an FT-60R that puts it to shame. I wish I had just spent money on that instead. Anyway best wishes and 73.
peter bernheim:
Sure, the Baofengs are not really good radios, but for the money they are a good buy. First of all, these radios make a good entry level TRX for people getting interested in HAM-Radio stuff.
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I've got the Baofang UV-5R with the extended battery-pack and long antenna; works great for short transmissions on our repeater. However, I tried to run the net one evening (net-control) and after about twenty minutes the transmitter suddenly failed. That particular radio is now a dedicated fox-hunt receiver. I'm careful to limit the duty-cycle now. By the way, I earned my Extra-Class ticket in 2012.
I have a feeling a baofeng might not make it through a full net control session. Cheap doesn’t mean reliable. But kudos for trying it.
I enjoyed your video.
I am one of those with little knowledge and bought it for when I go driving my 4x4.....trying to learn more.
Thank you for posting the video :)
You are right. I bought a BF 888S a month ago because it was a necessity and because it was cheap and easy to use. I like them so much and got me interested in your channel and other channels that support this hobby. Learned a ton of informative lessons. New sub here. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Subscribed. I'd wondered about these as I'd seen them on eBay, and couldn't believe the prices. I will be checking out your other videos on them.
I'd avoid buying Chinese radios off eBay. Go through Amazon. Easier to return if something goes wrong.
Loved your video! Just got into Ham radio this year (2019). Got my Technician the end of March and General the first of August. Had my BaoFeng UV-5R before I got my license and I love it! I use it as a scanner for local emergency services and keep in contact with other operators on our "local" repeater 9 miles away. I hope to get a 25 watt mobile unit so I can support charity events like the Dempsey Challenge (Patrick Dempsey) in Lewiston, Maine. I plan to watch more of your videos. Steve KC1LGL
I can see you made your general! Congrats!!!
Dude thanks for the video I've been wanting to get into HAM radio since I was a Scout and met with the local HAM group in Guatemala (25+ years ago) today I work with computers and just ordered my baofeng and RTL-SDR dongle. You just gained a new subscriber.
Baofeng got me into civilian radio, worked with 'radios' in the army and professional (Multiband Harris / Thales / BK / EFJohnson) radios at my workplace. Ended up getting a GMRS license for my family due to the Baofeng. I've put one of them through its paces, multiple drops on the concrete, extreme heat for days, and left out in the rain (powered off) - still works perfectly (recommend KMC-45D Kenwood mics though!). I've now ordered a Yaesu FT-65R from HRO and purchased a local Yaesu VX-6R. The Baofeng is the first radio I recommend, as it's inexpensive enough to get people into our hobby that normally wouldn't even consider HAM radio. Once they are into it, the investment is typically tenfold on radio purchases and gear from that point. It's like firearms, everyone starts out with the budget PSA then a few years later, they are purchasing a BCM with a Trijicon optic.
I happened to this channel through another channel (totally unrelated) and really found it interesting. I am one of those BaoFeng owners who purchased mine for airsoft *hangs head in disgrace* but never realized the potential I had with them for bigger and better. But after watching this, I'm wanting to start looking further into the details, in's&out's, proper configuration and optimization, and maybe get licensed for the use of my Ham radio (my grandfather would be proud). And who knows... maybe bring it back to airsoft to spread the word. Thanx for this.
Out of curiosity, how did you use it for Airsoft? Don't you have to be licensed to transmit?
@@TheALPHA1550 You're supposed to be, but the radio works just fine without a license. I'll admit to having talked a lot on a Baofeng unlicensed, but I was totally unaware of the ham licensing system.
@@Porty1119 Don't you only have to be licensed for a certain range of frequencies? How would you use it in middle of combat
@@TheALPHA1550
Headsets presumably, maybe even throat mics
@@TheALPHA1550 Back in the day when I was into airsoft I heard of some guys using "different, more powerful walkie talkies". Now I see they must have been some Baofengs probably, or something similar, programmed for PMR446 (EU FRS equivalent) (of that I'm sure because they would still talk with their mates using walkie talkies) which does not require a license and I don't think it's really scrutinized. I know that a UV5R would exceed the power rating of PMR446 and also has a detachable antenna which a PMR radio is not supposed to have. The boost in power would only be a benefit to us and at the end of the day it's a bunch of guys running around the woods for a couple of hours in a week. I'm not aware what evil can come of it.
On the other hand the people just buying a UV5R and using it as is out of the box with the pre programmed channels? Seems concerning. I read somewhere (could have been this very channel) to simply wipe the UV5R when it arrives and put in some local transmitters and channels I want to use and to make sure they are ham frequencies, because it ships with some random frequencies set up, some of which are outside of ham and that I could get in trouble by accident, broadcasting on some of them.
P.S. I was trained by the United States Marine Corps as an RTO. Very well trained thank you and I do know how to program my radio, with no permission slip
Agreed to your premise. I bought a few baofengs years ago, never practiced with them but just got my technician last month and looking into a more substantial radio.
Your videos have been super helpful in thinking through amateur radio.
Thanks for being my elmer from afar! (From Wyoming)
Thanks!
We have five and are very happy with them. Appreciate everything we have learned from YOU about this. Keep up the great work!!
I figured out how to fix the problem with cheap build quality on the Baofengs.. Just buy two of them..
HAH!
That's great. I bought a three pack myself, one for each go bag. Given the issues with my VX-6, it was money well spent.
Hangfire or hey better yet don't buy them at all and quit yer bitchin......
and one rd-5r!
Subscribed. Appreciate your help bud, thanks 👊
I'm an old guy (some say) and I appreciate what you are doing. I've watched several of your videos. You don't waste time, give awesome information and with great demeanor. Keep it up. Forget the FUD!
Just purchased a pair for offroading and of all the content out there, yours has been incredibly helpful and informative. As a result, I am intrigued and considering delving into Ham...terrific content and many thanks!
I have one of the early u 5r’s... battery life is great and it has never missed a beat.
Just bought 2 of these for emergency purposes. I do want to get my ham license at some point. I just subscribed and will watch more of your videos to learn how to use this radio. Thank you.
Well said, I agree totally with your last point and opinion!!! Waiting for mine in the mail. And, looking to get license for sure.
I like your videos they are very educational. Also on one of your videos about CERT you inspired me to join my local CERT. And like you i was picked for the IC in the final exam cause of my experience in the volunteer fire service. And I did what you said you should of done I handed out radios to the op chief and the other team and it went smoothly. And the examiner was very impressed and said this was one of the smooth exam I've done and you guys didnt look like the key stone cops out there lol. Thanks again love the videos.
I got interested in Ham after watching your videos and bought a Baofeng UV5R a couple of weeks ago. I just passed my technicians exam and now I’m just waiting on my call sign. Thank you for the great videos!
Baofengs are awesome. Irrigation contractor here. Gets wet gets mud covered. Keeps going. Dropped many times and cheaper than buying Motorola’s entry level radios. Btw I’m a licensed ham
I have a pair of baofeng BF8+III which I bought to use at work. On discovering what they really are, I programmed them to use the standard UK PMR 446 channels at low power to keep them 'legal' but the ability to listen in on HAM radio has encouraged me to take my armature license exam. I will be booking it early next month!
My dad was an operator back in the 70's and early 80's. He used a Yaesu ft101e with a rather large 3 element beam antenna. I'm going to finally get my tech license and restart this hobby. Thanks for the good info, I'll be visiting your channel often.
I have been a licenced ham in G and VK for 45 years and totally agree. I bought a UV5R when they first hit the market and it is still going strong. Such a pity there are so few youngsters taking up the hobby.
my baofeng feels a lot more chunky and durable than my icom id-51a.
* poor sensitivty in the baofeng - true. but this is published in the specs, and you'll see lots of kenwoods and yaesus which have similar poor sensitivity.
* UI is bad - true. but this is almost universal across all ham equipment. my very expensive yaesu is just as bad. i have no idea why radio manufacturers are obsessed with UIs from the early 80s.
* spurious transmissions - false. i put one on my R&S spectrum analyzer which can eat up to 50W directly without overloading. transmissions were clean and passed FCC specs.
So nice to find this out now since just buying one a week ago. Reviews on the 8 watt before this seemed good.
Great video. Well thought out and rational. I bought a BaoFeng about a year ago and have been messing around with it and it absolutely has been why I just received a study guide for the test in the mail today. It was an impulse buy that got me in the door and playing around... new antenna, program local emergency services, tried listening to the ISS(no luck). After a year dabbling it is time to take the plunge.
You're absolutely right. It got me into the hobby, working on my license now. I've always wanted ham since i was a kid, but learning morse code at that time was detrimental for me. But with these cheap radios, it got me in. and now looking for better radio. good job, many thanks.
The radio world is dying really fast, I don't think the "uneducated" amateurs are that bad, they still bring fresh air and interest to this hobby in the US. When I was a kid there was lots and lots of people on frequency, my uncle was addicted to it. All you can hear now is static pretty much in Southern Europe. And police and other emergency services are using encrypted DAB so you can't even entertain yourself listening to that.
The Yaesu FT-23R my dad modded to the core is sitting on a shelf collecting dust. It's sad.
It doesn't need to languish on the shelf. Use it. Other people may be listening who aren't in the habit of pressing the button first, but will answer.
I don't have a license unfortunately, and it costs quite a bit of money :(
@@hussssshie it's actually just 15 dollars for the license test (in us at least)
Here in Europe is about:
$300 in formation/training at a bare minimum
$30 to apply for the exam
Only if you pass the exam (which I think it was another $20...)
And nother $150 for the license.
Now.. all this is if you want to use a walkie or a fixed radio in your vehicle. If you want a nice bench radio with an antenna on your roof, you also have to pay for an additional yearly insurance. Not sure about the price of said insurance, but you get the point... It's an absolute wallet rape
@@hussssshie Holy crap! We sure have it lucky here.
I just ordered one and will be looking at your vid for programming. Thanks
Great series of videos... I was licensed in 92 as a KE4..Now W9KEN. Getting back into the hobby with the BaoFeng....Thanks, your vids are excellent!
Just as a casual observation, it seems that people who have spent a lot on their traditional radios resent the fact that others can obtain similar results with a radio that costs a small fraction of what they paid. They often go into great detail about what they consider technical flaws which are not an issue for general or emergency use. Some people can afford $700 or more on a radio just as some can afford Ferrari but most people can't.
+Ron Smith indeed!
A modern econobox is faster, more reliable, handles better, safer, gets better gas mileage, and less expensive than an old Ferrari.
Actually, at no point in my casual observation did I imply that the Baofengs had no problems. The thrust of my comment was simply that many people cant afford expensive radios and purchase the Baofengs. I have read some of the reports and would not deny the issues. I do however also notice that there is an element within the radio community that seems to resent them for being a poor man's radio and not fit for use of the more seasoned and elite demographic. They seem to be selling quite well.
Ron Smith: but are there not mid tier radios ...pricewise?
You make some interesting points jayw654. I'm not a HAM, but I do listen on my UnidenBCD396T scanner. I bought it used but almost new on Ebay when they first came out. Absurdly expensive at the time, even used. Now, Baofeng has a digital model HT that will scan most of what I listen to for less than 1/4 what I paid for my Uniden (also made in China). I can understand your frustration, although I doubt I could tell one radio from another just from a scanner. If my scanner died, I would probably buy the Baofeng digital just to use as a scanner for no other reason than cost. I guess I'm mostly puzzled by the FCC (non?) approval of Baofeng radios if they don't comply with the industry standards, but can still be imported. I wish you good luck dealing with this, but it appears that the horse is already out of the barn and they are here to stay. Cheers / Ron.
The ticking noise is driving me insane.
Its really weird, there is a small percentage or people who hear a click, most do not. I can't hear it for example when I edited or replayed the video. Can you try watching on another computer or phone? I'm curious if you hear it there.
I got it too. It sounds like a slow metronome. Listening on full sized budget Sony headphones via an iphone 6S.
Edouard Prest yeah I heard it also
yep, sounds like a metronome.
Isn't that just the background music?
What antenna upgrade do you recommend for the uv-3r+
I see yours has a longer antenna but they make short antennas that put out the same gain
There is like no gain on an ht. A Nagoya 701 would be good.
Amen. I like the fact that, since my Baofeng was inexpensive, I can put the money I saveed towards other preps like putting together a PV system to run my other radios if and when the grid goes down. I am a ham (general class) and a prepper.
“Downcline” is the new “decline”.
Bruh
Make the test (in Canada) less convoluted and I'd be happy to get a licence. It prevents folks from trying
I've experienced serious durability issues in a fleet of a few dozen assorted Baofeng radios used for SAR/LE support training. They just did not hold up to field or tactical use; I estimate that we saw a 25% failure rate within three months. After that experience, and using Kenwood handhelds under Part 90 business licenses in brutal industrial environments with no issues, I got my GMRS license and bought a pair of old Part 95-accepted Kenwood police handhelds. They've been great for general outdoor use, and are built like tanks - I'm already looking forward to buying a mobile for my truck, and a few more handhelds for family members covered under my license.
With all that said, Baofengs will ABSOLUTELY work for hobbyist use. Given the price, I'd say they're pretty great for it! Just don't go expecting them to hold up to abuse like a Kenwood or Vertex/Motorola. The more people who become interested in radio, the healthier the hobby will be. If a flood of cheap Chinese radios is what it takes to accomplish that, so be it.
Headframe Hunters:
As an HVAC / Electrical Contractor, I have found exactly the opposite to be true. We use Multiple Different brands of radios. The cheep Chinese 2nd & especially the 3rd Gen Baofeng radios have proven themselves over and over to be a great option. But I guess I shouldn't mention that for the cost of one $400 radio, I bought ALL TWELVE, YES... As In "Even Dozen", as in (12) of my guys their own Baofeng radio and they are studying to take their test in a couple of weeks.
So basically it's like this.. If a guy seriously damages or looses a Company Radio, it's not a major issue, as I have another eleven (11) new ones in the office supply room.....
@@billroberts9044 I can understand that philosophy. One of my clients uses Retevis radios in an underground mine; they don't last long but are cheap as chips.
All of my Kenwood gear is bought surplus for pennies on the dollar, which levels the playing field a bit.
do all of the baofengs transmit in gmrs and frs as welll?
I just got my UV-5R and I am watching a ton of videos about it. I am planning to get my licence, but in my country, I can only do the exam next year in May. (only 2 exams per year). The radio world is new to me, but it is interesting, but I am not willing to pay an enormous amount of money for equipment when I know nothing about it. The UV-5R is a great way to get into the game and I will try to be smart about using this radio and hopefully get my licence next year after which I will most likely get better equipment, but the thing is that for now, this is the only way for me to really get introduced to it.
Great video. I am about to get into HAM radio primarily for emergency preparedness but may get into it at the hobby level. Baofeng and like radios are like tricycles to bikers. They are a start that can lead to cross country biking adventures once you've built the skills, acquired the stamina and foresight.
I just ordered the 6 Pack of them, that come with Everything
on Amazon for $199. Free Shipping.
Got my first Baofeng yesterday, Model BF-FHHP 8W max handheld and I have already listened to our local repeater and set it up to act as a scanner for my local police and ems.
Heck of a deal two 8W radios and a programming cable for less than $100
Nice job on video. Bought the baufeng just 3 weeks ago to start listening to Ham. It worked out great. I just passed my first exam for technical Saturday.
I had a boufung uv-5r for a couple months and one night I had it in my pocket and the speaker went out but I still liked it and thinking of getting a nother one
These cheap radios and those "uneducated buyers" are not going anywhere anytime soon (and likely never will). So, we as hams can either "attack" and "discourage" those who buy them, who are not hams - or - you can encourage them to get their licence, help them out, educate them.
Then, they will likely want a better radio and will buy one. Or maybe they wont, because they are cheap and that's all they can afford for their hobby, and they do work.
I know that without finding an elmer to loan me a radio, I wouldn't have gotten very far in this hobby. I didn't have $200 for a radio, extra battery, better antenna and hand mic when I was 14.
Ethan Gollehon I just bought a baofeng f8, it is just that, a "starter radio" I'm currently studying for the tech/gen license and as I get more educated I'm sure any equipment will follow. Thanks for your comment.
Ethan Gollehon
Educate instead the "hams" on the 2 meters, 70 and also on sw. Lower level especially than those on 2 meters is difficult to find. That's another reason you only hear empty bands more and more.
I find it funny that so many get upset about "potential interference" and "spurious emissions" on VHF/UHF with these cheap radios. The VAST majority of time, in MOST places in the US, you can program your radio with every VHF/UHF repeater in the area and scan all day long with zero breaks in the squelch.
I was one of those a few years back. Now i have D licenses in two countries and going for a B license.
I always loved radios, but could only afford cheap 27MHz and PMR446 back then. I saw the Baofengs bought and tried them. But if i was going to use them properly, i would have to have a license. So i got one. Still broke and now studying i'm still using only the Baofengs :D
@Ethan Gollehon Hahaha :D You're right about that. I Live in copenhagen and the only thing I hear, on a 80W 70cm repeater, are a couple of delivery truckers which converse about the traffic in the morning. I have also searched the area with my RTL SDR and it is about as quiet as in a bunker except for a few security companies or something like that. And no my gain is not set low :D i have heard satellites.
The only place you'll hear anyone is MF and HF --> 10 - 160 meter bands.
Im an Airsofter from 10 years ago. I got Baofengs (UV-5R) and educated myself before i took them out on the feild and instructed others also who bought them. I understand how others just start TX on channels already preprogrammed in because they are uneducated. But..the majority of users either have a license or are responsible enough to program them not to TX on certain frequencies using CHIRP software. Very imformative video.
So would I be able to just get a baofeng and use it for transmitting a receiving on a railroad frequency or would I have to program anything.
I ordered it because I'm interested in learning HAM Radio, thank you so much for your videos.
I randomly looked at a review of a random rig posted by the ARRL (FT847). The transceiver is 100w HF but has 2m and 70cm capability too. The harmonic output was just -42dBc on 28Mhz! Not only is this worse than my Chinese radio but this is in relation to a 100w carrier. I have maybe 30 Yaesus and only one Chinese radio but I am not blinded by the price label. Knocking the Chinese radios has become a pastime for many people, but I wish they would open their eyes to the same parameters in some of the popular Japanese rigs.
GREAT crash course video re. Baofeng. Wish I had seen it 4 weeks ago (early May 2019) just BEFORE I bought my 1st radio - Baofeng DM-5R - from BaoTech. All your points are bang on, especially about uneducated newbies like me to the Ham hobby, and about Baofeng's lousy documentation and manuals. For example, as a beginner, I really wanted the radio's voice prompt feature, but despite what the manual says, the radio's menu system doesn't have a setting for turning the voice prompt on/off. I'm highly suspicious that this feature may have been removed from the radio. The worst part of all this is that I'm finding out all these "flaws" AFTER I've already purchased and taken delivery of the radio. I was not prepared for this!! Only saving grace, at least, is that I have been able to program my club's repeater into the radio manually via the keypad/menu system (I have my Basic Canadian Licence.) But man, what a "simple" time consuming process that turned out to be, just to add one set of data for one repeater. Oh well, at least I can Tx/Rx now with the repeater. But based on my personal experience, I think you missed one elephant in the room, at least wrt to my DM-5R. I still haven't been able to get programming s/w for the DM-5R. My fellow Ham club members, who also have Baofengs, told me to always use CHIRP to program the DM-5R - they said programming would be MUCH easier via s/w vs manual. It was no problem installing CHIRP on my Win7 laptop. But unfortunately, CHIRP doesn't appear to recognize my DM-5R in its list of supported Baofengs - hence I'm now concerned that I'll never be able to use CHIRP!! A couple websites suggested getting Baofeng's OEM programming s/w (cps-5r ? - from China, I think?), but they don't give any info on HOW to go about getting it!? It also appears that I might be able to program it via my MAC? I have an iMac High Sierra desktop. Also, a Ham club member gave me a Baofeng programming UBS cable for my Win7 PC, but the PC installed a generic a driver that subsequently didn't work. I then got a ZIP file from a vendor's website - can't remember which vendor - that supposedly had the required Baofeng driver, one each for a PC and a MAC, but after lots of sweat my Win7 refused to recognize this suposedly OEM driver too. So I feel I'm still 2-3 steps away from finally fully programming the DM-5R. Be that as it may, I will keep following your crash course website to get myself better educated. BTW, you've just about convinced me that I should think seriously about a Yaesu for my next vhf/uhf handheld Ham radio. Thank you.
You will not be able to use CHIRP with the DM-5R. Its made by Radiodity and is a DMR radio. You need to use their software. www.radioddity.com/products/baofeng-dm-5r-plus-dual-band-dmr-digital-two-way-radio
Starting to learn. Thanks for the information