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When younger CBs were a rage (in the 80s). It was common to organize friday night festivities over it, you knew where people were going to hang out, who picks up who and so on. Our channel space is very limited, we only had 20 channels. But of course, mods existed, couple of chips changed and you could go to 20, 40, even 80 channels "over".. and some of those were official channels.. Trolling was a big problem, some idiots just spammed on top of your conversation and you had to channel hop fast to get rid of them. Once you had a mod thou, you could just go to the illegal channels until they could not find you.. Most people had mods so it became a competition who gets most channels.. We had +20 channels, one was emergency channel that you knew you can't hit anywhere close to it. Some of them were used by the military for non important communication, they really didn't like people being in their space.. Once we were talking in our garage, quite crude speak.. the kind that young men can say on friday afternoon before starting to beer up.. My mom had a radio in the kitchen and the damn CB leaked straight into that and she heard everything we said (she didn't hear the other end thou..). Was the last time we used it for that purpose at home.. The church where i started my journey to adio engineering received truckers CB on the PA system.. That was hilarious as they were not the cleanest of words ;) The cause was later found, the whole system was not grounded properly and acted like a huge antenna.
The International Space Station is also available to amateur radio operators with just a technician license. It's kind of a badge of honor to talk to people in outer space.
my dad is an amateur radio technician, we used to do demos for our boyscout troop at camping events, he had a car setup with a giant antenna and license plate with his call sign, and his hand radio saved our lives when we got stuck in the middle of the green river after our canoe washed out overnight. we were able to radio someone like 500 miles away who called the canoe rental company who were able to come out and rescue us. Ham radio has played a much larger role in my life than most people would assume for the average human. EDIT* that time we got stuck was before cell phones where a normal thing everyone had. this was like late 90s
HAM radio amateurs & technicians are the sole reason radio technology kept evolving and getting better and better. Because of the sheer love & dedication to this amazing medium.
You'll find repeater coverage in some places a cell phone doesn't stand a chance. Big Bend National Park and Big Bend Ranch State Park come to mind since I was there last month and when the phone had nothing in the middle of the desert at 106 degrees and nobody else in sight, getting through to the Terlingua repeater was really comforting.
Non-eagle but look what video I’m on(quit cause I wanted to skateboard and focus on music only I since have been involved with adult orgs and am forming my papers for my own org, noticed the green river call, troop 233 and 221 here, camp crooked creek?
My uncle had a CB radio in the truck. When I was 12, I was inside his truck alone and started playing with the radio. I heard some guys talking and decided to chime in. I ended using a lot of profanity and those guys said they were looking for me and were going to kick my ass. To this day, I'm not sure they could do that but it scared the shit out of me.
You can totally track a cb. Once you get close enough to the signal, if you know how to use RF gain, squelch, and read the meter on the radio, you’ll be on top of that transmitting radio in no time!
If you like the idea of amateur satellites, you're gonna lose your minds when you find out you can bounce radio off the moon and hear yourself (about 2.5 seconds light lag) and communicate with people. All with that lowest tier Technician license (and a good station). Get. Yo. License.
@@cmnieman1 I haven't found a super step-by-step guide, but this is a good start, if you Google unfamiliar terms: www.g1ogy.com/www.n1bug.net/operate/emebasic.html One thing it doesn't talk about is using digital modes, e.g., attaching your computer to your radio and communicating that way. Much weaker signals are usable this way, which means less power and less antenna is needed. Joe Taylor has written extensively on that topic, and invented many of the modes used.
@Peter quite right, that's where the good station I mentioned comes in. 100 watts on 2m with substantial antennas using a weak signal digital mode *might* be enough.
I found this video today, which still isn't step by step, but gives a great visual guide to a small EME station: ua-cam.com/video/TUbNDNBPFEM/v-deo.html The one thing I'd add is that if you can get free of ground clutter, you can shoot the moon just as it's coming up. This means you don't have to adjust for elevation and can use the Earth as a reflector, improving your signal. I plan to build a similar station and point out over a large body of water.
I worked for an AM radio station in the early 80's for a VERY short time. Having done that, I have a piece of paper that I signed saying I have permission to transmit radio frequencies. There is no expiration date on the piece of paper.
I have a valid General Radio Operator's License ( a professional license issued by FCC) and still I cannot transmit on Ham bands even though 99% of the questions of the exam elements are the same.
@@rypdx As long as you're not being a complete idiot, the FCC isn't going to bother with you. You will, however, drive the local ham operators crazy.. :-)
I remember as a kid my father was into ham radio and morse code and he use to talk to people from China, Vietnam, etc through Morse code and I always found it fascinating. My father would've loved the internet age and the fact he could talk to anyone anywhere. We tend to take this stuff for granted but he would be in awe of the technology available today.
I was so into CB I had all the linear mics antennas and we would rig ur cobra 128 XL to put out 25 watts, then push 1200 watts. my mom would hate me you could here me through the landline telephone calls
Joe jeans ... and that is called "Harmful Interference" which could have cost you up to $10,000 for each time you pushed the 'magic button' to talk. While you were "just having fun" you were causing problems for your Mom, your Neighbors and many others who were trying to use the channels you were "splattering" all over.
@w4csc My father talked to a Russian guy during the 60s and mention his father's car in the discussion. The Russian said he had to be lying as an ordinary worker could not possibly have a car of their own. He simply would not believe my father.
18 year old ham here, been a general for awhile, it's a dying but fun hobby that I think is an important skill to have. Thanks for helping make it more known with this vid!
Joking aside, anyone can use a ham radio in an emergency situation. Hopefully this video inspires some of you to get your ticket (license)! - KC3NDY 73
When the apocalypse comes... you won't really know how to use your radio if you haven't practiced with it. Get licensed. It's easy, fun, and occasionally even useful.
Having a HAM license myself, I’ve ALWAYS preferred Citizens Band. It’s much more relaxed & interesting to me personally, especially if you know how to navigate the band and beyond. Alpha 76A out of a Sigma 5/8 wave, and talk just about anywhere on earth depending on propagation conditions of the firmament. I just think it’s nice to have a hobby that’s so interesting. Respect to all of those who key down no matter the frequency, power, modulation, transistor, or tubes. Remember, once you announce your call sign (and you must on all HAM bands), anyone can then know your name, address, and more via the database available to the public & Google. Oh and don’t mess about on a HAM band without a license, they will eventually find you, more so if your local and piss them off enough. (I) think the reason radio is so interesting & motivating is because we live in an electric realm of frequency and vibration. Tapping into this is like dancing in the unseen ether, connecting to something that is already in and around all of us. The sound of skip gives me goosebumps.
When I was a kid back in '93 or so, I found a kinda portable radio that belonged to my grandpa who was a navy officer way back in the day. I remember turning it on and scanning across the frequencies one day and coming across what seemed to be a police dispatch channel currently being used during some small incident. I of course, being a 9-year-old I thought this was insanely cool and started saying things like "this is tango-six give me your 48-niner" or some crap. They immediately recognized a kid had gotten onto the channel, and were actually amazingly patient telling me how important it is not to talk into the radio.
One time during winter I was able to receive British Columbia, and receive and talk with Tahoe.... I was in the BayArea. On top of a mountain. I had a cheap CB radio I bought for $5 @ garage sale, hooked it up to a toy train- track power converter, and a 5ft. Portable antenna.
It's a useful analogy, because while an actual zombie apocalypse is just short of impossible, how you prepare for it is super similar to other disaster preparedness scenarios that it's actually useful for teaching general survival tactics.
well yeah, most of this isn't practical day to day when you can open up a website and order a knife that'll arrive faster than you can probably find material, shape, and sharpen into one, and probably be a lot better (and cheaper if you had to buy any thing). Similarly there are a number of communication platforms that use the internet or cellular service at this point which is fairly good in most places and transmit more clearly than radio without any unnecessary tests or rules, not to mention your phone/computer/device likely has the ability to use software to clean up the transmission automatically. Plus there are multiple companies/corporations? now planning on launching thousands of micro-satellites in the near future that should given even better coverage and speed. Downside is that they do require the infrastructure built up over decades to work and very few people understand enough that they could recreate them on any scale if those failed. Though I suppose 2.6 million is probably still fairly small and who knows how many of them really know their stuff, it's a lot simpler to make a radio out of scrap laying around than a computer (assuming you don't have actual computers laying around) or pick up a piece of metal and shape it into a tool than try to communicate with a chain of people to some factory that used to make them in order to have one delivered. Of course something like a hurricane knocking out power and roads is a mini-apocalypse and can just as effectively end that infrastructure for a period of time, it's just less fun to refer to :)
How “mini” did you have in mind, because a reasonably intelligent English speaking human can read through the book once and pass the test. It was different when you had to learn Morse code. That was too high a barrier to entry for many people, but they dropped the code requirement years ago. It’s a lot easier now, thus the time and effort to be prepared is much lower.
@@hometownmedic7355 maybe 2 or 3 more episodes, nothing major, it would mostly be an excuse to chill with Josh and nerd out about some stuff. Although watching Brian and Jason walk through the process would also be entertaining, it'd be funny to watch Brian take a standardized test with dramatic editing going on.
You can also just memorize the answers to the test pool questions which are publlically available. But there are free Technician courses on UA-cam so you can actually know what you are doing.
@@hometownmedic7355 I remember those days. I was elated when I passed my 5-wpm and could talk on 10 meters. I haven't been on air for years now, my house burned down and I never replaced my equipment, although I do have one of those $30 HTs just in case I ever need it.
When I was little, I remember helping my dad set up an antenna for a lady's CB radio. She was up in years, and I think that was her main form of socializing. If I remember right, she was a trucker when she was younger and got involved in the culture through that. My dad said a lot of his side of the family had them, too. Again, truckers and farmers. It's isolated out here, and I can take the isolation because the internet gives me a feeling of connection. It's interesting to see how earlier generations filled that same need. I read an article that talked about old farmers setting up makeshift phone networks with barbed wire fence to keep in touch with the community.
Farmers in rural places used the wire that spanned dozens of miles to contact their neighbors and would regularly have a group chat with the people connected on the line
I found some old US Army field telephones under the kitchen basement of my prep school and set them up between some juniors' and senior' rooms. The Headmaster didn't take kindly to that and had me pull up a mile of twin conductor cable I and my partners-in-crime had buried or suspended between buildings at night! It was fun while it lasted. I didn't graduate cum laude either! Was lucky to have made it out with my diploma! Never-the-less, the education was priceless compared to the swill the public schools have been puting out for the past 20 to 30 years. That's why we're in this mess, today. God help us! Looks like the "grand experiment" is over.
I was a fairly avid CBer from the late-1970s until the mid-1990s. My most memorable CB-related experience occurred in the early-1990s. It was early-summer and I was in Victor Steinbrueck Park immediately adjacent to downtown Seattle. Around 2:00pm PDT I keyed up my little 2- or 3-watt handheld with a rubber ducky antenna and requested a 10-32 (radio check). The reply that I almost immediately received originated from a trucker in Illinois! I'm aware of "atmospheric skip" but that normally occurs at night -- not in the middle of a sunny afternoon. We spent several minutes just shooting the shit, and then we both went our separate ways.
This is GOD SPEAKING, YOU MUST AGREE THAT HAM RADIO IS A GREAT IDEA... FIRST I WANTED TO MAKE IT OUT OF PIGS BUT THESE HUMANS ARE REALLY CLEVER AND MADE IT OUT OF PLASTIC AND METAL, SURE THERE MIGHT BE PROBLEMS WITH PIGS, SIZE BEING JUST ONE.. HOWEVER SEEING AS MY IDEAS ARE CLEARLY LESS THAN THAT OF MAN, I'M GONNA GO HAVE A PICNIC WITH SATAN'S MOTHER MAUREEN.
Ham Radio Crash Course there’s nothing I’d love more than seeing these guys play dnd. If you have any ability to push these guys to do it, that’d be amazing.
Awesome seeing how excited the guys are about the hobby. Got my license at 13, many years back, but haven't been on in quite a while. I keep it active though, just in case (I'm old enough I got my Novice when still had to pass 5wpm) - KA3ZXO
I was licensed in the early 70. Still have a extra license almost 50 years ago. A mature radio is dead. 2 meter suck, Hf down the tube. You can have the best radio equipment in town, but it’s a boat anchor with nobody to talk to. Bands are dead.
There is always someone on air, especially if you use CW. Have you tried digital FT8? I'm in the UK and yesterday on FT8 had reports from Brazil and China plus Europe and north america. On CW I worked all over too.
America is dead. Our signals don't even go as far as other places because of all the RF junk in the air they are pumping us full of to keep us sick. 2m,6m it's all a joke.
Some years ago an ARES group wanted to do a countywide exercise that included hams at various EOCs thoughout the county. It was summer time, hot, but the exercise simulated a snowstorm so people listening will not get confused if a wildland fire was the event. Even though everyone said drill trafffic at end of messages, well you know the usual not everyone listens to the full transmission.
Glad you guys finally touched on ham radio. I've been licensed since 2012. It's a great hobby! My furthest contact was from my home base in NY (near the Canadian border) all the way over to Ukraine! A radio I fixed up myself, an antenna I built myself, and 100 watts of power! I'm also glad you covered not transmitting without a license. There was a disgruntled volunteer EMS provider locally that got a Baofeng (the radios shown in this video) he decided to mess with a local EMS company I worked for. We tracked him down and reported him to the FCC. Don't be a fool!
TheBullfrog89 that’s different from casually using these radios in to coordinate between your friends in a forest on an unused frequency or even FRS/GMRS band that the blister pack radios use.
@@samuelseidel6148 I understand what your saying, I think. My point was if you mess with these radios, you need to know what your doing. Even accidentally transmitting on the wrong frequency you will be found and fined. Only use them on the frequencies you can legally use.
@@maxinvasionleet Special antennas built for direction finding. get a bunch of people with them, and they can track pretty quickly. We even do what we call "fox hunting" to practice. Someone (licensed) has a transmitter, sending a signal and everyone else tracks them down.
@@maxinvasionleet There are orienteering events based around radio. Orienteering in it's traditional form is going to a place you haven't been before and using a map and compass to find a series of small flags, and punching a card to prove you were there. All this against the clock. The location of the flag is marked on the map for compass based games. Radio based has only a few 'foxes' that transmit pings, the map is blank except for the game boundaries, and you use directional radio receivers to triangulate and find these tiny radios. If it's possible to find 3 tiny boxes scattered randomly through the woods with lightweight handheld receivers, it's definitely possible to find someone doing rogue transmissions using proper equipment. And everybody licensed for radio has to know the physics of radio propagation, plenty of nerds to get directional radio antennas, tight knit enough to share data, and hate bad actors that could result in having the amateur bands taken away. Three Letter Agencies can and do show up on people's doorsteps over this.
You'd be surprised how many remote ham operators feel the need to police spectrum even when nobody's bothering anybody. I get it in an urban environment, or when someone is causing interference, but a LOT of the old timers (a large percent of the community) feel like they are the FCC's hall monitors.
@@notsure7874 I meant in a post-apocalyptic situation. In the event of a total government collapse, you think they'd be able to stop all the random people who raided Wal Mart for radios like in this video and just started talking? Especially when they can't even threaten to report them to the FCC?
@@IncredibleMD I somehow think that even if there was an apocalyptic event, and government was down - there'd still be Ham Karens trying to police the airwaves :D But ya - SHTF, the FCC is irrelevant.
They are acting like the FCC has someone sitting around every couple of square miles listening in for unlicensed radio activity. You can use these day to day for normal use as long as you aren't constantly broadcasting, and you will likely never hear a peep from any government agency.
Just do not use it at your house, walk around the neighbor hood, or do like people do with computers if they do not want to get caught doing thing, They go to a free wife area, so just go to a park or something and use it. no way they can track you all the time think someone said in Florida there are just 5 agents in the whole state
It depends on what you are doing, you are stepping on somebody's foot, a licensed user, specifically government or commercial, they find you, bc they depend on their service working.
Amazing graphics. And the constant miles to km converting is just perfect. :D Gotta love the editors!! This production quality is what separates good channels from great ones. !! Also, Brian and Jason are cool too.
I watched this video when you guys first released it and thought "Cool, I'll buy a $20 radio to listen to cop frequencies" 4 years and a few hundred dollars on nicer radios later and I've paid for my GMRS license, am working on taking my HAM test, and shopping for parts to build an antenna at home
I've been a licenced amateur for a little over a year. I took my tech, and then immediately started studying and got my general like 3 months later (it can be done WAY quicker but I'm in college, give me a break). It was actually your video on Number Stations forever ago that got me super interested in it again. I had read about it as a kid but quickly forgot about it until that video showed up in my feed. I can't express to you how fun it is. Also, Josh, Huge fan of the HRCC channel as well! I'm super excited that you guys are FINALLY going down this rabbit hole. I love your videos.
@@ddegn arrlexamreview.appspot.com/ is a really good place to start. ARRL memberships are subscription-based BUT exam accounts like this one are FREE. You can take as many practice tests on there as you want. You can also download and study the entire question pool here: www.arrl.org/question-pools. A lot of the Technician (lowest level license) stuff is just common sense. If you tried hard enough you could probably be ready in a week or two. I recommend buying a cheap radio before you take the test so that you are motivated to actually study for the test. Actually having the necessary equipment in front of you makes it a lot easier and more exciting to study so that you can actually press that transmit button, but that's just my opinion. UA-cam has hundreds of videos on studying for tests, and even though the exam question pools change every once and a while, the questions are pretty much the same every time, just worded differently. Good luck! 73 73 73 de KE0RAG!
There's a really good guide online that goes over all the possible questions. I took the tech and it was pretty easy. They offered that I could take the general while I was there too so I did and only failed by a couple of questions (given that I had not studied for it, that's fair enough, I think). Nobody should be scared to study and take the test, they are not designed to make it hard to get a license, only to make sure you have the knowledge to use the equipment in a safe and courteous manner.
I was behind a motorcycle CHP once when a piece of firewood fell off a truck. The cop hit it and went down hard. I stopped to help, took his radio and keyed, "CHP dispatch, you have an officer down..." and I gave the location and nature of the accident. Then I went to help the cop. I thought I'd get into trouble, but no one said anything.
you did the correct thing by doing that most volunteers like myself have mobile radios in our personal vehicles to call in route to the station or call in a emergency that has not reached 911 operations yet
@@TheWaterman1000 "Only if no other means of communicative is available" That my friend, is too stupid even to consider. So if some other person is there who can hand carry a message (which *IS* a form of communication) then I can't legally use the radio?
That 'if no other means of communication are available' is quite often uttered with much more gravitas than i think the writers intended. If you have a emergency situation occur as described by the op and even if you have a cell phone with reception on your person or even in your hand and you use the cops radio to seek aid, NO ONE is gonna even care AT ALL. Not one tiny ass little bit. Wont even be thought about or considered. Why, because the radio is very likely a better and faster means of getting help than your phone. That radio is pretty surely linked directly to the people who are gonna be real interested in helping him AND its gonna have a much faster response time than dialing 911 or any other emergency number and not all mobile to 911 calls are automatically embued with gps data, keep in mind that cell towers as of this moment have a range of up to six miles and if you are in a low signal area, they might not have enough towers pinging you to get a location based on triangulation, and therefore not be able to locate you. Digital radios can tx their identity to a recipient like caller ID which can tell the recipient which radio it is and they can tell who its assigned to and therefore with much better possibility determine where the officer may be even if you yourself dont know right where you are. Because if the officer had just checked in saying he was about to proceed x direction on x road, say 5 minutes before you report Hes down, they know that they can start at his last known location and proceed in x direction on x road and likely find him or be in the general area. What the other means of communication is really meant to deal with is for situations of protracted or prolonged emergency situations in which things like cell, land line, internet etc are mostly or totally unavailable in an area or generally. So things like prolonged power outages or extreme weather or other technical issues. In situations like this, most communication needs will be considered emergency communication if they generally deal with needing help rather than simply being conversational or whatnot. In this case things like ham or frs or gmrs and shortwave and such will relax the requirement to be licensed and to adhere genrally to tx protocol though there will still be people 'policing' the frequencies to keep things efficient and communications flowing. Even then the prescence of a single or even a small number of 'altenrative means of communications' wont necessarily mean that all non licensed use of the ham radio freqs has to stop. It all depends on the ratio of those other means to the demand for communication. You couldnt have a katrina like event happen where nearly an entire state is in upheaval with the majority of its coms either down or clogged, and have some baccy chewing technician licensed dude telling all those people they have to go line up in front of one fema guy who has a sat phone and beg a minute to call their mom to let them know they are still alive. Thats simply not how it works. Altenrative coms would have to be restored to some logistically reasonable degree to meet the general needs before they could even begin to worry about df-ing someone doing unlicensed tx-ing. Except as such tx-ing takes place on certain reserved freqs such as dedicated emergency freqs or those used by official agencies such as fema or police SAR and fire etc. Thats why its all channellized and segregated such as it is. But even a company showing up handing out phones or allowing use of phones will not necessarily immediately invoke the alternate means of communication rule since just because there is availability of such in some case, doesnt mean that any specific person txing is able to access that means. I know that some people who get that license read those rules and all the protocol and possible consequences of violating them and they get both leery of breaking them and also derive some sense of vicarious authority from being associated with it and having some type of secret or special knowledge that they can impart to other people with some air of importance or authority. Just slow down and get your head out of the rarefied air and duck it back down here with the rest of us. Its just a radio, its nice that its there and its really great that with as little govt oversight as there is, that it has a robust set of rules and guidelines as it does such that it keeps it ready to serve, but thats what its there for, to serve us, not to shackle us to its rule set. So if you have a radio and an emergency, a real emergency, and lets say you also have a cell phone but for some reason that radio is the better answer despite the 'other means of communication rule' fuck it, tx and get your help. If you have an emergency and the guy down the street with the foil all over his windows and six hungry looking pit bulls has a cell or land line or a heliograph or a telegraph or full blown internet access or even signal flares. Fuck it, tx and get your help. The radio is there to serve you. Learn how to use it. Learn how to access aviation emergency channels. Dont ever do it for txing unless you need help NOW. But know how to do it. Those guys can get you help NOW pretty much anywhere you are and can likely help you find yourself if you dont happen to know where you are. But if you have a stationary rig, have your exact coordinate location posted in a permenant format at the station where if you are calling for help, you can simply give someone your exact physical location rather than im two miles northeast of cranberryville, via sh 3 three quarters of a mile up a dirt path off of old saw mill road. The people comming for you might not know cranberryville from cranberrystan and might think new sawmill road is old saw mill road. You might be dead by the time they find you. You want them to be able to plug your coodinates into g maps or whatever and be able to see in real time what your situation looks like so they dont send three potheads in an ambulance to extract you who get half way there and find out that they cant get to you because the bridge is out or the road is washed away and they should have sent a helicopter instead or a boat.
This video is what inspired me to get my license. I had heard about ham radio but never really knew what it was about or what it could do. Now I'm getting started with EchoLink and getting my first DMR radio here in a bit. 73, KO4HJF
I remember the first time i watched this video i could not push the ptt button. I passed my test last year. Its so cool to see this video pop back up in my recommended.
I wouldn't advocate preppers to get their license, if the SHTF the FCC isn't going to be running around checking licenses. But the FCC can inspect your station WITHOUT a warrant. The last thing you're probably going to want as a prepper is a Fed Agency coming through your home, unannounced and without the necessity of a warrant.
My grandfather was W2ROT, he said it was 'with two rotten old tomatoes'. He helped design and install the early color television transmitters in Syracuse NY. I also had a totally blind roommate who passed the ham test with flying colors and enjoyed talking to people all over. The local club drove him to the white cross building and administered the test. Back in the 80s cb radio was still very popular. Ham radio privileges opened a vast new world of possibilities for who you could talk to and the distance you could communicate. Cheers, great video.
The Loma Priata Earthquake was in 1989, before cell phones were really a thing everyone had. After the quake power and phones were out for some time, Ham radio operators put out signs offering to send messages. They'd contact other hams outside the effected area and those hams would call people on the phone to pass on messages. And they did it for free. They were heroes.
Legally speaking, we are required by law to do such work free of charge and are not permitted to profit monetarily from the use of our licenses. That is the basic deal in exchange for otherwise free use of often very valuable radio frequency real estate.
@@ethanpoole3443 Sorry, but I find that hard to believe. I can maybe understand doing it at cost, but to force someone to do something for free, especially if providing that service has costs associated with it (such as long distance phone call charges) seems a bit out of line. Can you provide a reference to these laws?
Eric Taylor I’d be happy to do so. While it is very briefly, if a little opaquely, touched upon in the opening section of FCC Part 97.1a (under Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations) with the words “voluntary *noncommercial* communications service” (note: in this instance the use of “noncommercial” is used in the broadest sense of “commerce” to reference any sort of work in exchange for compensation, whether paid, barter, or in-kind exchange). However, the restriction is most clearly spelled out under Part 97.113 under the heading of “Prohibited Transmissions”. Under Part 97.113a(2) it is prohibited to engage in “communications for hire or material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided for in these rules.” Also, under Part 97.113a(3) we are forbidden to engage in “communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer, with the following exceptions. The exceptions touched upon under Part 97.113a(3)i-iv cover (paraphrased for brevity): i) operating on behalf of an employer in an emergency or readiness drill (this is to permit agencies like the Red Cross as well as licensed federal, state, county, or city emergency management officials to legally communicate with amateurs where their transmissions are merely an incidental aspect of their job and not the primary reason for their job during emergency and simulated disasters/drills); ii) an amateur operator may make occasional advertisements regarding the availability of goods or equipment for sale or trade that are specifically related to Amateur Radio Service (the on air “swap meet” exception); iii) compensation as an incident of a teaching position during the time of use (the school Radio Club exemption); and iv) the control operator of a club station may accept compensation for the periods of time when a station is transmitting telegraphy practice and bulletins for at least 40 hours each week, provided the service is offered on six, or more, MF or HF bands (1.8-30MHz) and where regular schedules are published at least 30 days in advance and the operator is in no way otherwise compensated for that time (in essence, a full time on air Morse code teacher may be compensated for their time if they are not otherwise compensated elsewhere). Anyone may read the entirety of the Part 97 rules under which the Amateur Radio Service (as well as Part 95 if also interested in CB, FRS, or GMRS) is established online at the FCC.gov website or as part of the full Code of Federal Regulations under Title 47, Part 97. You can also access the Part 97 rules in their entirety at the American Radio Relay League’s website (our national club and lobbying entity) at ARRL.org (just search for “part 97” in the search box in the upper right-hand corner of the page),
@@ethanpoole3443 Thanks, but I think I see the problem here. See the word "voluntary"? No one is forced to provide these services. They are just not allowed to charge for them. And though I'm no lawyer, I think the "non-commercial" has to do with no compensation for profit. I could be wrong, but there is a law in aviation sort of like this. There is sort of the same thing in aviation. There are several different classes of pilot's license. The two that apply here are "private pilot's license" and "commercial pilot's license" A commercial pilot has nothing to do with airliners. These two license types apply to general aviation. mostly "Cessna" type planes. It has to do with what the pilot can and cannot charge for his services. A commercial pilot is allowed to charge passengers for profit. A private pilot can also charge his passengers but he can only charge the cost of operating. He can't charge for his labor. Lets say you want me to give you a ride in my plane. it costs costs me say $100 per hour in fuel and maintenance. As a commercial pilot I could charge you $200 for a 1 hour ride, but as a private pilot I can still make you pay for the ride, but I can only charge you $100 for a one hour ride. It simply wouldn't be reasonable to make the pilot fly you around for free, if it costs him to do so.
If you want to claim his call as a memorial call, you can do so. Family members are permitted to do that, you just need to match his license level (e.g. if he was General, you'd need to be General) and submit proof of death to the FCC and a request to claim his call as a vanity (after getting your sequentially-issued one.) Otherwise two years after the FCC learns of his death, his call will be released and can be claimed by anyone.
:) lol Technically yes, but it's better to get the license. Not only would you learn the skills to build seriously powerful radios from scrap electronics, being registered also helps preserve the amateur hobby bands for future generations
47 CFR § 97.403 Safety of life and protection of property. (law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.403) [my bad.. some older docs show this an ammedum to 47-97.7] "No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available. " "Amateur station " being typically defined as any hardware that can transmit on Ham/Reserved bands. It's this caveat that allows ordinary people to use Personal Locator and Maritime Distress Beacons in the event of an Emergency without being punished.
Bishop Howells This incorrect “amateur station” in the rules means licensed amateur station. Without a license you are not an amateur station, you’re just a dude with a radio breaking federal regulations.
My father had a Ham radio that I got when he died. It is old and is a receiver only Tube type that still works. I don't really listen to it but it was my Dad's so I like having it. He used to sit and listen to it for hours, fiddling with the knobs and frequencies just to see what he could find.....Just remembering : /
He has a special set of skills, that makes him a nightmare to trolls like you. He will look for you, he will RF direction find you and he WILL take away your ham radio privileges.
The licensing thing is a joke, Its not enforced, HAM operators everywhere will tell you that reporting someone is a damn joke..Nobody ever gets fined or charged.
If you operate on restricted frequencies that interfere with airplanes and other entities that are taught to you when you study for the technician class ham radio license, the FCC and the FBI will both find you and lock you up and fine you!
One of the nice thing about HAM culture is that when you make a new friend over the air, you can exchange post cards of your home town (or whatever). Many operators have collections of post cards from years of meeting people.... also, aside from bouncing off the moon, you can sometimes use the atmosphere to skip the signal (like skipping rocks on water) and increase distance with the same power.
A few years ago I was on a large worksite with hundreds of people from dozens of companies and everyone had UHF CBs (Australia). After switching channels for awhile my crew found a clean one with no one else on it, score. Fast forward 3 days and we are called up on that channel by search and rescue, we had been bouncing off a repeater and they had spent the last 3 days flying around trying to get within our receive range to tell us to get of channel. Hot tip, stay off 5 and 35 in Australia.
@@mattymerr701 They were nice enough to let us off with a warning, honestly I would like to see the emergency frequencies noted on the handset so people don't make the same mistake we did.
Here in Australia, UHF radios are quite popular to have in your vehicle. No license or call sign is required when using one of the 80 channels for the general public.
@@yogidemis8513 pretty much Legally the ACMA (Australian FCC) kneecaps UHF CB to the point it's effectively a toy but in reality it's the wild west and everyone out bush is breaking the law with illegal 25w car radios and base stations in community centres. In a literal emergency there's no legal way of communicating using radio, the FCC at least has stipulations for the rules to not apply in an emergency situation.
I have a story that I am sure was illegal on many levels after watching this video. For the record, no agency ever came knocking on our door, not because we were smart but because we lucky I guess. I was born and raised in a place that is now called Silicon Valley. My older brother bought a base unit CB radio but one of his friends knew a "guy" who mods CB radios. I do not know exactly what was done but I think it opened up other frequencies, again not sure. Anyway, the CB antennae was on top of our giant redwood tree in our back yard. I do not remember how far he could transmit and receive. I remember being able to eavesdrop into phone conversation from the new tech of cordless/wireless home phones. We could even talk over them and repeat what they just said. yes creepy and illegal. I assumed it was just from our immediate neighborhood. He never had a HAM Radio license. I'm surprised it was never hit with a lightning strike. If someone asked him about his setup , my brother would say 85' mast growing about 8" per year. lol. peace
Ppl with a license and no life…😂 aka the “sad ham” you can find a lot of them in the comment sections of YT 😉 And in all of FCC history not even a citation was given to any unlicensed user of a UV-5R. As long as you use it as a simplex com, stay on safe frequencies and limit your Tx to 4W or less even the worst case of spurious emission won’t affect any air traffic beacons or shipping navigation.
I still remember the 1 time that somebody was pounding on my door and let me know there's a fire. I went out to my car, and was about ready to leave, then I remembered that I have a radio in my car. I put it up, (magnetic mounts with a cigarette plug), and turned on my linear amp so I could reach my grandfather. I identified and started transmitting, EMERGENCY. Grandpa! I'm about ready to have my house burn down. I'm about ready to leave but fire!!!" I didn't know what else to do, but I remembered: "if there is ever an emergency, use this." I did, and when I was leaving 8 plows were making circles around the house, I was leaving after I got my dog and cats in the car and just went to "anywhere but here!" Radio is a very useful tool in the right circumstances. I got radioed back 3 hours later, (I went and hid in the canyon), that my house is now safe to return to. Radio is very very useful, but I was trained to never pick up the mic unless lives might be in danger, but I can listen all I want.
I had loads of fun back in the late 70s, and early 80s with CB radio. We used to play "fox and hound" DF (Direction finding) games. My car had co-phased 8ft antennas towards the last 1/3 of the the car body. We could often find the fella(s) who were playing the "fox" by carefully circling the car and watching the change in the built in "S" (Signal strength) meter in the radio. Once someone found the "fox", we'd all go for coffee and snacks. Generally most CBers were kindly folks. It was also nice to listen to folks all over the world chatting when "skip" (the signals bounced off the upper atmosphere) was in. This post brought back fond memories of friends, so long since passed.
When I got a CB radio in 1970's, my dad had to get a CB licence for me . We got a letter with our call sign from the FCC.. a few months later they no longer required you to have one.
.....what was your 20 back then ? I still have many C B units , base and mobile . One of my base units have side bands . With a good mic & ground plane antenna ! Get back into it , and practice radio procedures . Maranatha !
Accurate info? So you agree that if someone transmits without using a call sign that you’d find them and show up at their house? That’s what he said in the video. You think that’s accurate? I think it’s not worth it. You could get shot by someone.
So my dad has multiple myeloma blood cancer, and because of that for months he wasn’t allowed to leave his apartment. His rent and other expenses is covered by the VA but he has a little money to play around with at the end of each month. My dad had always been interested in police scanners, Ham radios, various different radio gizmos and gadgets. When my father was stuck in his apartment he decided to buy the same professional equipment that they refer to in this. He doesn’t have a license, he just does it. He seriously just doesn’t care. He messes with the cab company in his city, he nesses with the valet company at the local hospital he goes to almost every day. He once played red dead redemption 2 audio clips on the “Red cab” company frequency in Worcester MA. In his mind he’s just like “ what are they gonna do, I have cancer. And I’m a disabled vet” My dad is a chaotic neutral
I'm sorry your dad's so ill. He's in my prayers. 🙂 Perhaps he should consider getting a license. He could consider it as a "special achievement," something really cool that he did in his final years. I know I'd be pretty proud of the fact that I got that special license. Perhaps you could even share in that "success" by helping him study for the exam?
These reviews you see on Amazon, from people who bought a bunch of Chinese handheld radios for their families to use on an ocean cruise, are risking repeating your experience. In Mexico, drug cartels are putting up illegal repeaters for these radios on legitimate cell and broadcast towers. Ignorantly winding up on their channels could really ruin your vacation!
Used to work at the parts department at Yaseu. Lemme tell you HAMs are a different breed entirely. Some great stories and some painful customer service interactions.
@B P Thanks, you beat me to one of my pet peeves. "Ham" is a very old nickname with a mysterious etymology. It doesn't stand for anything. The actual name is the Amateur service.
Like one of the guy said, repeater is not limited to terrestrial. So distance of your HT is not limited to dozens of miles, but thousands of miles. As to Baofeng UV5R, the siren does not get transmitted.
So I had my tech licence for just a few weeks and I was with somebody that knew a lot more about radios than I did but he had no ham licence... He was seriously considering getting one... He asked if he could talk on my radio using my call sign and I was right there... He had a short conversation and he thought it was great... I was immediately reprimanded by our local ham club and was warned several times over later that this was not acceptable... Even though I was faily sure that it was... It soured me from enjoying my ham licence and I know my friend never pursued the licence either... Even though he knew how to work on them...
Hope you ignored the sad hams. It is well within the regs for you to do that. I don't know the specific part that states it, but you are allowed to as shown here. I also have a friend who knows way, way more about radio than I do, and he hasn't gotten his license. He experiments all the time with all sorts of radio and remote communication projects, which really is at the heart of amateur radio. Experimenting and enjoying radio. Personally, because I'm so young compared to the others locally, it feels like the communication aspects are less interesting than the experimentation aspects anyway. I'm looking more into digital modes and the like more because they seem so interesting
Transmitting without knowing what other communications you're disrupting is no joke. Whether you're interfering with your local fire department or a drug lord, you're inviting unwanted consequences. Speed limits are sometimes overly restrictive, and some seem designed as revenue schemes. The regulations governing radio are minimal, designed to be only as restrictive as needed to keep a common public resource available to serve everyone.
Paul Plack, Breaking the law is breaking the law. There is no gray area. You can think that speeding laws are overly restrictive but if you go past the posted speed limit you are breaking the law. Speed limits are no joke and set to keep the public safe. Life is full of choices and there may be consequences to those choices.
@@Biogasifier the government overreach is astounding. It's the same thing the FCC telling everyone they need a license to talk and farther than across a room. I gladly break any unconstitutional "law" that limits my free speech.
Though Citizens Band has fallen to Skip Worlders, it is still a good radio practice to have it on hand for EmComm operations. Matter of fact my EmComm set up has the following types of radios. UHF AMATEUR, UHF BUSINESS, UHF PUBLIC SAFETY, VHF AMATEUR, VHF BUSINESS, VHF PUBLIC SAFETY, FRS, GMRS, CB, HF AMATEUR, HF CAP, HF MARS ALL TRANSCEIVERS ARE CAPABLE OF ALL MODE OPERATIONS TO INCLUDE DMR, PROVOICE AND NXDN EXCEPT THE FRS / GMRS TRANSCEIVERS. I ALSO RUN SEVERAL RECEIVERS SO THE PROBABILITY OF MISSING AN EMERGENCY CALL IS REDUCED.
Yep, RF burn. It gets more serious if you have a tower up and someone is touching it when you transmit. Like Hoshnasi said, you can have up to 1,500 watts on certain bands. It's also interesting that certain wavelengths have more of an affect on the human body than others. The 6 meter band (50MHz), can cook you with high enough power just by standing near it which is why it has the lowest duty cycle, or amount of time you can transmit of all the bands.
I mean to some point it is kinda like a microwave. Just energy being transmitted in waves of you get enough of it/ the right frequency it can do some damage
10:07 - Being an amateur radio operator (KI5AOK), I just want to point this time stamp out in the video. Notice that when the display shows the frequency, it says "GMRS2 462.587". For those of you who are starting out in Amateur radio, the Beofang units will transmit on frequencies that are not part of the amateur band. This includes the 30 channels that are for General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS), which occupies the 462 and 467 MHz band (which is outside Amateur radio license area of 420-450 MHz). Transmitting in the GMRS assigned channels require two things: - A different set of call signs (seven characters, consisting of four alpha and three numeric [i.e. WRAW744, which is my GMRS call sign] - A part 95 certified radio. The problem with the mobile radios shown is that they are part 90 certified, which means that the Baofeng used cannot legally transmit on GMRS, even if you have a GMRS license. They work for the topic that is being discussed (amateur radio channels) but not for GMRS.
Also, if you are too buy a baofeng; many distributors have begun locking the tx(transmit), as well as the raddiodity gt5r has it locked as well for sure. In order to stop from being used on frs/gmrs
I studied like crazy to ace my Amateur Extra exam, then found that the local radio club was not very welcoming (perhaps because the president had failed to earn his Extra license) and so I pursued other interests. Now there are some new, inexpensive radios which makes playing around in HAM radio much easier.
The entire scanner Community has gone into remission due to public safety agencies scrambling and withholding information necessary to monitor that space. I think we need to get back to the principal that anything transmitted over the air should be Audible maybe recordable. What about effective cell phone to a conversation programs? Also shouldn't you be able to monitor your local police department like before. Do you think that police violence might lessen if their radio waves were public domain again?
Lot of personal information gets put out on calls is why they would encrypt, I get why they do it or why an EMS company or hospital will do it for patient privacy reasons. Also if you are trying to bust a drug operation you don't want the druggies listening in. It makes sense and gets complicated because we want police transparency but also do want criminals having the upper hand. Police violence is a fallacy for the most part and here is why: There is a REASON the cops stop you and that reason is YOU did something to get their attention. How you act determines how they act. It's literally that simple. Now there are rotten cops and rookies with huge egos, usually those do not last long on the force.
Pardon my sarcasm, but----So let's pretend we live in your fantasy world: An innocent family is being held hostage at gunpoint by a drug crazed individual for some reason or another. And...he has his handy dandy police scanner on listening to the cops, which is now easily done because they are required to transmit everything in the clear so as to prevent "police violence". The doper hears the sergeant on the radio give a sniper the order to take him out if there is a clear shot. So...what do you think is going to happen next? The mental state of the criminal just went off the scale because he now knows he has nothing to loose... How about another scenario: A drug seller with previous convictions knows if he gets caught again he's going to prison for a very long time and he hears an undercover officer being dispatched to investigate reported drug activity by him. What do you think is going to happen? How many cops need to die in ambushes to make sure they don't abuse their authority in your fantasy? I have a better idea: Your cell phone is highly encrypted and pretty secure. What do you say that cell phone encryption be done away with in ALL phones so anyone can monitor and record anyone they choose...like you want to do to the police. I mean wouldn't people be more cautious if they knew they were being recorded! Violence would have to go down, right??? Wouldn't that lessen criminal activity just like it would the "police violence" that you think exists? The reason the scanner community has went by the wayside is because of radio Trunking systems (look it up), in vehicle computers and encryption. You should really look at easily obtainable statistics about actual "police violence" before forming opinions based on media "reports" from proven liars. Don't forget, the "news" media is like UA-cam, Google, Facebook and the rest; nothing matters but clicks and the more clicks they generate with good "content", the more money they make, except the news channels also make money off of views. More views=higher advertising prices=more revenue.
@@idahosagebrush5662 We just switched our counties radio system off the analog un-encrypted 800 MHz Type2 trunking and onto P25-2 with AES encryption that gets renewed weekly and the official statement from the comms coordinator was "We DO NOT want criminals and their lookouts listening in especially in certain police matters, or Fire, Rescue, EMS calls where HIPPA laws can be violated." I work on this system and I do not get to have a radio nor am I allowed to use my own laptops to program the radios, only their computers and I am under supervision when I am doing it. No flash drives no cell phones, no cameras and no paper notes are to be removed from the programming area. They DO NOT want the systems specifics and encryption information getting out and onto places like radioreference dot com. The fantasy world is where the police and other services do transmit with transparency openly for all to hear like in the old days when police were on the HF band and your house radio could tune them in. That idea in 2020 is pure unchecked fantasy that will NEVER happen.. The era of listening to the police scanner on the cheap is over. In due time there will be ways to tune in, most likely starting with SDR radios and some computer magic then stolen radios will start showing up on ebay for under $1000 with bootleg programming software and god knows what. I made the decision a while back to just give up on listening in because I have my own business and life to lead, I do not care what the cop or fire depts are doing as long as they are catching dangerous criminals, saving lives, and putting out fires, the shit my tax money pays for each year.
@@vlc-cosplayer It's the best way I could explain it, English isn't my first language. They worked exactly like public transportation, but weren't organized by the government and used vans instead of buses.
I was a kid in the 70s, and dad always had a CB radio in both his truck and mom's station wagon. I still use CB radios today, albeit a Cobra 29ltd bluetooth, and a Cobra 2000 gtl base station at home. I also have several handheld HAM radios, and have my HAM licence. If something were to happen to terrestrial communications, CBs are a valuable means of communications. All of my children, including neices and nephews have as well.
I have to say, HRCC is a wonderful alternative to the doldrums that HAM Nation has become. Modern Rogue just takes it to the next level. If you guys did a strictly ham podcast produced to this quality or even half as good, I'd watch every single time.
I had picked up a used CB radio many years back and after I got it home, I decided to check things out. With the help of a frequency counter, I discovered it was transmitting on every band out there including police, emergency vehicle, aircraft, etc. I check it because when I had tried transmitting, it would trip the local banks security system and had police crawling around the area trying to find who was transmitting on their private frequencies. I got rid of that radio very quickly by destroying it.
Somebody messed with the filters - this should not happen normally. This reminds me of the old moped days, where some folks thought replacing the exhaust on a 2-stroke with a garden hose would make it faster. This is just stupid and demonstrates little understanding of physics.
I love the energy between the three of you. It's so positive and infectious. I was watched the first video I came across from this channel 2 days ago, about the short scan signals for numbers station. In that video, when the guy with the glasses was getting excited about finding something on the rainbow of signals, I was getting excited too.
Many a years ago, I had a HAM operator about a half a mile away, that's let's just say he was a bit overpowered, he kept interfering with my FM radio. He was easy to find due to the large antenna in his yard. I told him about listening to his covo's at night. He apologized and went and bought me a filter to put on my radio antenna. So for just radio it worked great, when bored I would unhook it and listen to him. I did get a bunch of good info from his talking, lol.
@Steve Terry right, but what about those without a Filter? Again, this would be interference regardless. Unless he gonna hand out a filter to every single person within that radius.. 😂
@Steve Terryright, so you are telling me that this is fault of the receiver and not at fault of the Source of the interference? Lol. Sounds like that's fancy talk for not taking responsibility.
@@stan464 the problem lies in the filtering system of the radio that was being interfered with it had a poor Front End on the radio the amateur went out of his way to buy a filter for someone he did not know for something he did not have to fix but wanted to help so he went out and spent his money to help this person not have a problem with his cheap radio.
@@stan464 Yeah, it's called poor selectivity and the FCC recognizes it as a problem with the receiver, not the person transmitting as long as they are operating within the confines of Part 97.
Demont both of them doing it in quick succession in the background of each other with their individual cameras eagerly proving to themselves they are the best at what they do
Great stuff!!! Brings back memories. Kid up the street on a hill used to have a Drake 2B pulled in stuff from all over the world, and could sometimes skip back. Wall covered in cq cards. He had it bad. I just used to listen to all sorts of long range broadcastsfrom around the world (RFE, BBC, German & Mexican stations.). Fun! Late nite listening. Thankyou for the Wayback Machine, Sherman.
I remember my sister actually got her FCC call sign when she was heavy into CB. Had a big base station, power mic. I could be wrong, it has been, 40 years or so. . . KAGH-3588 that sounds right. . .maybe. Oh, I was the Boston Strangler. CB was nuts back then. Meets, parties, the custom vsn club every truck had a rig, and 100 pounds of vibrant shag carpet.
@Robert Slackware your grandmother did what now? The only times I've been shot at were doing cop tows on abandoned vehicles. Nobodies granny ever popped a shot at me and I don't like the implications behind accusing me of picking a house. I'm no burglar.
Did you see how fast he grabbed the radio when the dude hit the emergency button? 🤣 The licensed guy is like "give me that thing. Friggin' talking about drug money, you're gonna get my license yanked."
Nobodys license is getting yanked he didn't even transmit it it only went over the phone, and the licensed guy already had just said someone else could operate under his call sign with him around allowing someone to do so. People need to pay attention more I know it's hard because these guys are all at overacting about the cops coming I'm sorry but in real life it isnt like that unless you're truly interrupting a specific channel or just over being an asshole and a menace.
You PAY for a license and some volunteers from a radio club would “come find you” and “show up at your house”? That’s dangerous. Ya best not. I know I’m not the only one who could be provoked to violence by that. Years ago, someone threatened me over the CB and I traced the signal and showed up in the driveway and described their home to them over the air. If you ain’t law enforcement, don’t be threatening folks or acting like the radio sheriff. The FCC is the law, not some civilians in a radio club. Don’t be a ham hero.
When i was in the service i operated fm, hf, shf, uhf, and vhf. Between handheld prc-148 mbitrs to shf radios that took 2 or more guys just to move the transmitter. Even some ku band satcom work too.
I am a swedish ham since 1982. I enjoyed this conversation. Especially the comment about that there is a special frequency that you tap into, after you studied to be a ham, and say -"I´m ready"
It cant be very easy to catch people abusing the airwaves illegally. Unless they stay on long enough for a FCC team to assemble and triangulate... and that could be hours depending where you live.... I mean.. do they really have FCC 'swat' teams sitting around the country waiting/scanning/listening for it? Cant see it tbh..
Yes and no. People get caught from time to time. But in general, you really have to piss someone off to get the feds on you. But yes, you have to do it long enough to be located, which isn't really as much as you think. (accurate, synchronized clocks at a few listening stations, and you're nailed.)
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When younger CBs were a rage (in the 80s). It was common to organize friday night festivities over it, you knew where people were going to hang out, who picks up who and so on. Our channel space is very limited, we only had 20 channels. But of course, mods existed, couple of chips changed and you could go to 20, 40, even 80 channels "over".. and some of those were official channels.. Trolling was a big problem, some idiots just spammed on top of your conversation and you had to channel hop fast to get rid of them. Once you had a mod thou, you could just go to the illegal channels until they could not find you.. Most people had mods so it became a competition who gets most channels.. We had +20 channels, one was emergency channel that you knew you can't hit anywhere close to it. Some of them were used by the military for non important communication, they really didn't like people being in their space..
Once we were talking in our garage, quite crude speak.. the kind that young men can say on friday afternoon before starting to beer up.. My mom had a radio in the kitchen and the damn CB leaked straight into that and she heard everything we said (she didn't hear the other end thou..). Was the last time we used it for that purpose at home.. The church where i started my journey to adio engineering received truckers CB on the PA system.. That was hilarious as they were not the cleanest of words ;) The cause was later found, the whole system was not grounded properly and acted like a huge antenna.
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1:26 UHF? Like Weird Al’s UHF?
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The International Space Station is also available to amateur radio operators with just a technician license. It's kind of a badge of honor to talk to people in outer space.
@Anung Un Rama I am licensed.
@Anung Un Rama what is the frequency?
📡 I am gonna do that. I set my radios up & am monitoring ISS Passover 🛰
@@jimhamilton8285 There are 2 frequencies required…1 download & 1 upload. 1 is on 2-Meters & the other is on 70cm.
I spoke to Mir on a handheld.
my dad is an amateur radio technician, we used to do demos for our boyscout troop at camping events, he had a car setup with a giant antenna and license plate with his call sign, and his hand radio saved our lives when we got stuck in the middle of the green river after our canoe washed out overnight. we were able to radio someone like 500 miles away who called the canoe rental company who were able to come out and rescue us. Ham radio has played a much larger role in my life than most people would assume for the average human.
EDIT* that time we got stuck was before cell phones where a normal thing everyone had. this was like late 90s
HAM radio amateurs & technicians are the sole reason radio technology kept evolving and getting better and better. Because of the sheer love & dedication to this amazing medium.
You'll find repeater coverage in some places a cell phone doesn't stand a chance. Big Bend National Park and Big Bend Ranch State Park come to mind since I was there last month and when the phone had nothing in the middle of the desert at 106 degrees and nobody else in sight, getting through to the Terlingua repeater was really comforting.
Non-eagle but look what video I’m on(quit cause I wanted to skateboard and focus on music only I since have been involved with adult orgs and am forming my papers for my own org, noticed the green river call, troop 233 and 221 here, camp crooked creek?
500 miles lmao no
Well call phones also would probably not have had a signal back then too LoL
My uncle had a CB radio in the truck. When I was 12, I was inside his truck alone and started playing with the radio. I heard some guys talking and decided to chime in. I ended using a lot of profanity and those guys said they were looking for me and were going to kick my ass. To this day, I'm not sure they could do that but it scared the shit out of me.
Probably still looking for you. Be careful at truckstops. ;)
Found you!
😂😂😂
You can totally track a cb. Once you get close enough to the signal, if you know how to use RF gain, squelch, and read the meter on the radio, you’ll be on top of that transmitting radio in no time!
@@razbo1963 I don't know much about radios. How do they find you?
"I have found... The drug money."
*His eyes bulge out in fear.*
"just kidding" and the fbi agent listening calmed down
“just kidding”
Murphy should NOT have been the one trusted to transmit, I knew he'd push it, and he certainly delivered.
ua-cam.com/video/cUx_AaLlQmY/v-deo.html
(Jason screams in fear)
loooool
If you like the idea of amateur satellites, you're gonna lose your minds when you find out you can bounce radio off the moon and hear yourself (about 2.5 seconds light lag) and communicate with people. All with that lowest tier Technician license (and a good station).
Get. Yo. License.
Can you send me a link on best way to start on that path please?
Or just don't and talk anyways
@@cmnieman1 I haven't found a super step-by-step guide, but this is a good start, if you Google unfamiliar terms: www.g1ogy.com/www.n1bug.net/operate/emebasic.html
One thing it doesn't talk about is using digital modes, e.g., attaching your computer to your radio and communicating that way. Much weaker signals are usable this way, which means less power and less antenna is needed. Joe Taylor has written extensively on that topic, and invented many of the modes used.
@Peter quite right, that's where the good station I mentioned comes in. 100 watts on 2m with substantial antennas using a weak signal digital mode *might* be enough.
I found this video today, which still isn't step by step, but gives a great visual guide to a small EME station: ua-cam.com/video/TUbNDNBPFEM/v-deo.html
The one thing I'd add is that if you can get free of ground clutter, you can shoot the moon just as it's coming up. This means you don't have to adjust for elevation and can use the Earth as a reflector, improving your signal. I plan to build a similar station and point out over a large body of water.
I worked for an AM radio station in the early 80's for a VERY short time. Having done that, I have a piece of paper that I signed saying I have permission to transmit radio frequencies. There is no expiration date on the piece of paper.
Different license. Not applicable to amateur radio.
I have a valid General Radio Operator's License ( a professional license issued by FCC) and still I cannot transmit on Ham bands even though 99% of the questions of the exam elements are the same.
@@jasonbishop3273 in my town I don’t use one. No one says anything 😂 been doing it for 11 years. Just extortion from the gov
Update: I got my General Radio Amateur Class now and the call sign is W5DMA :)
@@rypdx As long as you're not being a complete idiot, the FCC isn't going to bother with you. You will, however, drive the local ham operators crazy.. :-)
The only repeaters I know are redstone, and even then I’m kinda shaky on my knowledge...
lol
After watching this video I’ve concluded the most intricate repeater there is is the red stone repeater
Jason Murphy you need to get your channel going there’s an army of modern rogues waiting to montoise you lol
Repeater is a repeater, whether it is repeating the radio signal out further, or getting an additional 15 blocks of redstone signal...
when combined with a comparator its deadly, but only the redstone gods, who reside in the land of scicraft, can truly master this.
I remember as a kid my father was into ham radio and morse code and he use to talk to people from China, Vietnam, etc through Morse code and I always found it fascinating. My father would've loved the internet age and the fact he could talk to anyone anywhere. We tend to take this stuff for granted but he would be in awe of the technology available today.
I was so into CB I had all the linear mics antennas and we would rig ur cobra 128 XL to put out 25 watts, then push 1200 watts. my mom would hate me you could here me through the landline telephone calls
Joe jeans ... and that is called "Harmful Interference" which could have cost you up to $10,000 for each time you pushed the 'magic button' to talk. While you were "just having fun" you were causing problems for your Mom, your Neighbors and many others who were trying to use the channels you were "splattering" all over.
@@SCarter76 yeah but nobody asked.
@w4csc My father talked to a Russian guy during the 60s and mention his father's car in the discussion. The Russian said he had to be lying as an ordinary worker could not possibly have a car of their own. He simply would not believe my father.
@@SCarter76 calm down
18 year old ham here, been a general for awhile, it's a dying but fun hobby that I think is an important skill to have. Thanks for helping make it more known with this vid!
In the apocalypse,
there's no license required.
When all communication is down then anyone can use a HAM radio.
I mean if you want to spend up to 15 years in a federal facility.
Joking aside, anyone can use a ham radio in an emergency situation. Hopefully this video inspires some of you to get your ticket (license)! - KC3NDY 73
@@rickyshepherd4326 you're gonna follow the laws during apocalypse? xD
When the apocalypse comes... you won't really know how to use your radio if you haven't practiced with it. Get licensed. It's easy, fun, and occasionally even useful.
...they totally need to upload a full session of them playing dungeons and dragons now, lol
DM Matt Mercer of course.
@@nicholasfotou2980 oh fuck, I didn't even consider that, I n e e d this lol
Would be a long episode..
@@AG.Floats I sat through the whole rapier ep, o would totally watch a DnD ep!
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Everybody around 76”-77” had CB’s, for my birthday I got one for my bike. The CB on the handlebars And the antenna was behind the banana seat. 😂
This is the video that got me into radio a few months ago. Just took the test and got my tech license yesterday! 73 from KJ7PZH
Belated congrats
Amateur radio has literally changed my life, motavated me to study engineering, and has led to many jobs and I haven't even finished school yet.
Using a radio got you many jobs prior to even finishing high school? Huh
D Johnson college
I'm an engineer and dropped out of high school
My license led me into a boring unfufilling job.... if nothing breaks I have nothing to do.. nothing ever breaks
Having a HAM license myself, I’ve ALWAYS preferred Citizens Band. It’s much more relaxed & interesting to me personally, especially if you know how to navigate the band and beyond. Alpha 76A out of a Sigma 5/8 wave, and talk just about anywhere on earth depending on propagation conditions of the firmament. I just think it’s nice to have a hobby that’s so interesting. Respect to all of those who key down no matter the frequency, power, modulation, transistor, or tubes.
Remember, once you announce your call sign (and you must on all HAM bands), anyone can then know your name, address, and more via the database available to the public & Google. Oh and don’t mess about on a HAM band without a license, they will eventually find you, more so if your local and piss them off enough.
(I) think the reason radio is so interesting & motivating is because we live in an electric realm of frequency and vibration. Tapping into this is like dancing in the unseen ether, connecting to something that is already in and around all of us. The sound of skip gives me goosebumps.
Personally I love all the bands. HAM bands, CB, GMRS, FRS, and MURS
I love the use of firmament. 😉
When I was a kid back in '93 or so, I found a kinda portable radio that belonged to my grandpa who was a navy officer way back in the day. I remember turning it on and scanning across the frequencies one day and coming across what seemed to be a police dispatch channel currently being used during some small incident. I of course, being a 9-year-old I thought this was insanely cool and started saying things like "this is tango-six give me your 48-niner" or some crap. They immediately recognized a kid had gotten onto the channel, and were actually amazingly patient telling me how important it is not to talk into the radio.
Thats awesome
Yea I used to have scanners just so I could listen to them.
Kinder, gentler days.... Oh, how I wish for them!
Imagine: "KI6NAZ, KI6NAZ, be advised, we are commencing a vibe check on your location."
yes
over
I'm picking up good vibrations
"KI6NAZ W7KZE CQ CQ" Rolls 16 sided die for chances of successful communication.
checking VSWR on your new dipole is literally just a vibe check
One time during winter I was able to receive British Columbia, and receive and talk with Tahoe.... I was in the BayArea. On top of a mountain. I had a cheap CB radio I bought for $5 @ garage sale, hooked it up to a toy train- track power converter, and a 5ft. Portable antenna.
that's awesome.
I love how in alot of these episodes Brian always has an Analogy that has to do with a Zombie/Nuclear Apocalypse
Quilt wait.... thats marco diaz
It's a useful analogy, because while an actual zombie apocalypse is just short of impossible, how you prepare for it is super similar to other disaster preparedness scenarios that it's actually useful for teaching general survival tactics.
well yeah, most of this isn't practical day to day when you can open up a website and order a knife that'll arrive faster than you can probably find material, shape, and sharpen into one, and probably be a lot better (and cheaper if you had to buy any thing).
Similarly there are a number of communication platforms that use the internet or cellular service at this point which is fairly good in most places and transmit more clearly than radio without any unnecessary tests or rules, not to mention your phone/computer/device likely has the ability to use software to clean up the transmission automatically. Plus there are multiple companies/corporations? now planning on launching thousands of micro-satellites in the near future that should given even better coverage and speed.
Downside is that they do require the infrastructure built up over decades to work and very few people understand enough that they could recreate them on any scale if those failed. Though I suppose 2.6 million is probably still fairly small and who knows how many of them really know their stuff, it's a lot simpler to make a radio out of scrap laying around than a computer (assuming you don't have actual computers laying around) or pick up a piece of metal and shape it into a tool than try to communicate with a chain of people to some factory that used to make them in order to have one delivered.
Of course something like a hurricane knocking out power and roads is a mini-apocalypse and can just as effectively end that infrastructure for a period of time, it's just less fun to refer to :)
reminds him of home
The zombie apocalypse is coming and they will be ready with there ham radios and sword fighting skills
When a human sees a button.
Human:" Must press"
Human does a curious
i do lol
Actually, it's light switches with me. I've gotten in trouble a few times because of it.
Does that include Benjamin button people?
I understand why humans have these impulses. I have them as well
I would love a mini-series about Brian and Jason getting licensed for HAM radio.
How “mini” did you have in mind, because a reasonably intelligent English speaking human can read through the book once and pass the test. It was different when you had to learn Morse code. That was too high a barrier to entry for many people, but they dropped the code requirement years ago. It’s a lot easier now, thus the time and effort to be prepared is much lower.
@@hometownmedic7355 maybe 2 or 3 more episodes, nothing major, it would mostly be an excuse to chill with Josh and nerd out about some stuff. Although watching Brian and Jason walk through the process would also be entertaining, it'd be funny to watch Brian take a standardized test with dramatic editing going on.
You can also just memorize the answers to the test pool questions which are publlically available. But there are free Technician courses on UA-cam so you can actually know what you are doing.
@@hometownmedic7355 I remember those days. I was elated when I passed my 5-wpm and could talk on 10 meters. I haven't been on air for years now, my house burned down and I never replaced my equipment, although I do have one of those $30 HTs just in case I ever need it.
Super easy process
When I was little, I remember helping my dad set up an antenna for a lady's CB radio. She was up in years, and I think that was her main form of socializing. If I remember right, she was a trucker when she was younger and got involved in the culture through that. My dad said a lot of his side of the family had them, too. Again, truckers and farmers. It's isolated out here, and I can take the isolation because the internet gives me a feeling of connection. It's interesting to see how earlier generations filled that same need. I read an article that talked about old farmers setting up makeshift phone networks with barbed wire fence to keep in touch with the community.
Farmers in rural places used the wire that spanned dozens of miles to contact their neighbors and would regularly have a group chat with the people connected on the line
I found some old US Army field telephones under the kitchen basement of my prep school and set them up between some juniors' and senior' rooms. The Headmaster didn't take kindly to that and had me pull up a mile of twin conductor cable I and my partners-in-crime had buried or suspended between buildings at night! It was fun while it lasted. I didn't graduate cum laude either! Was lucky to have made it out with my diploma! Never-the-less, the education was priceless compared to the swill the public schools have been puting out for the past 20 to 30 years. That's why we're in this mess, today. God help us! Looks like the "grand experiment" is over.
@@spamcan2551 the grand experiment died the moment Progressive Socialists got the 16th and 17 Amendments to the Constitution ratified.
@@hudsondonnell444 Really the 19th doomed us to be replaced eventually................ Molon labe
I was a fairly avid CBer from the late-1970s until the mid-1990s.
My most memorable CB-related experience occurred in the early-1990s. It was early-summer and I was in Victor Steinbrueck Park immediately adjacent to downtown Seattle. Around 2:00pm PDT I keyed up my little 2- or 3-watt handheld with a rubber ducky antenna and requested a 10-32 (radio check). The reply that I almost immediately received originated from a trucker in Illinois! I'm aware of "atmospheric skip" but that normally occurs at night -- not in the middle of a sunny afternoon. We spent several minutes just shooting the shit, and then we both went our separate ways.
"Hey Folks, Bruce Banner here, AKA DJ Hulk, brodcasting on the gamma wavelength all through the night"
Copy that DJ Hulk this is BIG MNSTR over
This is GOD SPEAKING, YOU MUST AGREE THAT HAM RADIO IS A GREAT IDEA... FIRST I WANTED TO MAKE IT OUT OF PIGS BUT THESE HUMANS ARE REALLY CLEVER AND MADE IT OUT OF PLASTIC AND METAL, SURE THERE MIGHT BE PROBLEMS WITH PIGS, SIZE BEING JUST ONE.. HOWEVER SEEING AS MY IDEAS ARE CLEARLY LESS THAN THAT OF MAN, I'M GONNA GO HAVE A PICNIC WITH SATAN'S MOTHER MAUREEN.
@@livedandletdie Wait a minute! I thought Satan's mother was named "Karen"!
you do know that gamma is on the other side of the EM spectrum?
I'm going to go ahead and claim the Wizard if we're setting up a D&D group over the radio :D
Great video again guys. Thanks for lettng me play!
Ham Radio Crash Course there’s nothing I’d love more than seeing these guys play dnd. If you have any ability to push these guys to do it, that’d be amazing.
Thanks for spreading the love of the hobby. KV5JMK
Thanks for spreading the word. ZL4WW
Great video (and I’m in for D&D - maybe over some FT8 variant?) 73 -KC9YFH
Awesome seeing how excited the guys are about the hobby. Got my license at 13, many years back, but haven't been on in quite a while. I keep it active though, just in case (I'm old enough I got my Novice when still had to pass 5wpm) - KA3ZXO
I was licensed in the early 70. Still have a extra license almost 50 years ago. A mature radio is dead. 2 meter suck, Hf down the tube. You can have the best radio equipment in town, but it’s a boat anchor with nobody to talk to. Bands are dead.
There is always someone on air, especially if you use CW. Have you tried digital FT8? I'm in the UK and yesterday on FT8 had reports from Brazil and China plus Europe and north america. On CW I worked all over too.
America is dead. Our signals don't even go as far as other places because of all the RF junk in the air they are pumping us full of to keep us sick. 2m,6m it's all a joke.
**I have found the drug money**
*The cop listening*: Hold up, wait a minute, something ain't right.
"Just kidding*
*the cop listening* oh okay. Forget it
I'm assuming they picked a frequency that they knew wasn't widely used.
That would be commercial business, right, so that would be a no no
AND Broadcasting is something you want to look into
Some years ago an ARES group wanted to do a countywide exercise that included hams at various EOCs thoughout the county. It was summer time, hot, but the exercise simulated a snowstorm so people listening will not get confused if a wildland fire was the event. Even though everyone said drill trafffic at end of messages, well you know the usual not everyone listens to the full transmission.
Glad you guys finally touched on ham radio. I've been licensed since 2012. It's a great hobby! My furthest contact was from my home base in NY (near the Canadian border) all the way over to Ukraine! A radio I fixed up myself, an antenna I built myself, and 100 watts of power!
I'm also glad you covered not transmitting without a license. There was a disgruntled volunteer EMS provider locally that got a Baofeng (the radios shown in this video) he decided to mess with a local EMS company I worked for. We tracked him down and reported him to the FCC. Don't be a fool!
TheBullfrog89 that’s different from casually using these radios in to coordinate between your friends in a forest on an unused frequency or even FRS/GMRS band that the blister pack radios use.
@@samuelseidel6148 I understand what your saying, I think. My point was if you mess with these radios, you need to know what your doing. Even accidentally transmitting on the wrong frequency you will be found and fined. Only use them on the frequencies you can legally use.
@@chopperboi89 how do they find you from a 10sec transmission?
@@maxinvasionleet Special antennas built for direction finding. get a bunch of people with them, and they can track pretty quickly. We even do what we call "fox hunting" to practice. Someone (licensed) has a transmitter, sending a signal and everyone else tracks them down.
@@maxinvasionleet There are orienteering events based around radio. Orienteering in it's traditional form is going to a place you haven't been before and using a map and compass to find a series of small flags, and punching a card to prove you were there. All this against the clock. The location of the flag is marked on the map for compass based games.
Radio based has only a few 'foxes' that transmit pings, the map is blank except for the game boundaries, and you use directional radio receivers to triangulate and find these tiny radios. If it's possible to find 3 tiny boxes scattered randomly through the woods with lightweight handheld receivers, it's definitely possible to find someone doing rogue transmissions using proper equipment.
And everybody licensed for radio has to know the physics of radio propagation, plenty of nerds to get directional radio antennas, tight knit enough to share data, and hate bad actors that could result in having the amateur bands taken away. Three Letter Agencies can and do show up on people's doorsteps over this.
No cell towers? No Wi-Fi?
Then it's a fair bet there's no FCC.
You'd be surprised how many remote ham operators feel the need to police spectrum even when nobody's bothering anybody. I get it in an urban environment, or when someone is causing interference, but a LOT of the old timers (a large percent of the community) feel like they are the FCC's hall monitors.
@@notsure7874 I meant in a post-apocalyptic situation. In the event of a total government collapse, you think they'd be able to stop all the random people who raided Wal Mart for radios like in this video and just started talking? Especially when they can't even threaten to report them to the FCC?
@@IncredibleMD I somehow think that even if there was an apocalyptic event, and government was down - there'd still be Ham Karens trying to police the airwaves :D
But ya - SHTF, the FCC is irrelevant.
@@notsure7874 Key word there is TRYING.
All it takes to take down WiFi and cell towers is someone with a Ditch Witch digging in the wrong spot and cutting a fiber optic cable.
They are acting like the FCC has someone sitting around every couple of square miles listening in for unlicensed radio activity. You can use these day to day for normal use as long as you aren't constantly broadcasting, and you will likely never hear a peep from any government agency.
Just do not use it at your house, walk around the neighbor hood, or do like people do with computers if they do not want to get caught doing thing, They go to a free wife area, so just go to a park or something and use it. no way they can track you all the time think someone said in Florida there are just 5 agents in the whole state
Yip. Do your illegal broadcasting at random locations and don't use the same location often.
Sounds like entrapment
It depends on what you are doing, you are stepping on somebody's foot, a licensed user, specifically government or commercial, they find you, bc they depend on their service working.
Amazing graphics. And the constant miles to km converting is just perfect. :D Gotta love the editors!! This production quality is what separates good channels from great ones. !!
Also, Brian and Jason are cool too.
I watched this video when you guys first released it and thought "Cool, I'll buy a $20 radio to listen to cop frequencies" 4 years and a few hundred dollars on nicer radios later and I've paid for my GMRS license, am working on taking my HAM test, and shopping for parts to build an antenna at home
This is how the “perilous slide”begins! 😜
I've been a licenced amateur for a little over a year. I took my tech, and then immediately started studying and got my general like 3 months later (it can be done WAY quicker but I'm in college, give me a break). It was actually your video on Number Stations forever ago that got me super interested in it again. I had read about it as a kid but quickly forgot about it until that video showed up in my feed. I can't express to you how fun it is. Also, Josh, Huge fan of the HRCC channel as well! I'm super excited that you guys are FINALLY going down this rabbit hole. I love your videos.
I'll go look for the videos you mentioned. Do you have any other suggestions for someone who wants to get their amateur license?
@@ddegn arrlexamreview.appspot.com/ is a really good place to start. ARRL memberships are subscription-based BUT exam accounts like this one are FREE. You can take as many practice tests on there as you want. You can also download and study the entire question pool here: www.arrl.org/question-pools. A lot of the Technician (lowest level license) stuff is just common sense. If you tried hard enough you could probably be ready in a week or two. I recommend buying a cheap radio before you take the test so that you are motivated to actually study for the test. Actually having the necessary equipment in front of you makes it a lot easier and more exciting to study so that you can actually press that transmit button, but that's just my opinion. UA-cam has hundreds of videos on studying for tests, and even though the exam question pools change every once and a while, the questions are pretty much the same every time, just worded differently. Good luck! 73 73 73 de KE0RAG!
There's a really good guide online that goes over all the possible questions. I took the tech and it was pretty easy. They offered that I could take the general while I was there too so I did and only failed by a couple of questions (given that I had not studied for it, that's fair enough, I think). Nobody should be scared to study and take the test, they are not designed to make it hard to get a license, only to make sure you have the knowledge to use the equipment in a safe and courteous manner.
I was behind a motorcycle CHP once when a piece of firewood fell off a truck. The cop hit it and went down hard. I stopped to help, took his radio and keyed, "CHP dispatch, you have an officer down..." and I gave the location and nature of the accident. Then I went to help the cop.
I thought I'd get into trouble, but no one said anything.
you did the correct thing by doing that most volunteers like myself have mobile radios in our personal vehicles to call in route to the station or call in a emergency that has not reached 911 operations yet
@@Mega747400 For one thing, I was 19 at the time. It was 1989 so hardly anyone had cell phones yet
You can tran on government frequency in an emergency only if no other means of communications are available.
@@TheWaterman1000 "Only if no other means of communicative is available"
That my friend, is too stupid even to consider.
So if some other person is there who can hand carry a message (which *IS* a form of communication) then I can't legally use the radio?
That 'if no other means of communication are available' is quite often uttered with much more gravitas than i think the writers intended.
If you have a emergency situation occur as described by the op and even if you have a cell phone with reception on your person or even in your hand and you use the cops radio to seek aid, NO ONE is gonna even care AT ALL. Not one tiny ass little bit. Wont even be thought about or considered.
Why, because the radio is very likely a better and faster means of getting help than your phone. That radio is pretty surely linked directly to the people who are gonna be real interested in helping him AND its gonna have a much faster response time than dialing 911 or any other emergency number and not all mobile to 911 calls are automatically embued with gps data, keep in mind that cell towers as of this moment have a range of up to six miles and if you are in a low signal area, they might not have enough towers pinging you to get a location based on triangulation, and therefore not be able to locate you. Digital radios can tx their identity to a recipient like caller ID which can tell the recipient which radio it is and they can tell who its assigned to and therefore with much better possibility determine where the officer may be even if you yourself dont know right where you are. Because if the officer had just checked in saying he was about to proceed x direction on x road, say 5 minutes before you report Hes down, they know that they can start at his last known location and proceed in x direction on x road and likely find him or be in the general area.
What the other means of communication is really meant to deal with is for situations of protracted or prolonged emergency situations in which things like cell, land line, internet etc are mostly or totally unavailable in an area or generally. So things like prolonged power outages or extreme weather or other technical issues. In situations like this, most communication needs will be considered emergency communication if they generally deal with needing help rather than simply being conversational or whatnot.
In this case things like ham or frs or gmrs and shortwave and such will relax the requirement to be licensed and to adhere genrally to tx protocol though there will still be people 'policing' the frequencies to keep things efficient and communications flowing.
Even then the prescence of a single or even a small number of 'altenrative means of communications' wont necessarily mean that all non licensed use of the ham radio freqs has to stop. It all depends on the ratio of those other means to the demand for communication. You couldnt have a katrina like event happen where nearly an entire state is in upheaval with the majority of its coms either down or clogged, and have some baccy chewing technician licensed dude telling all those people they have to go line up in front of one fema guy who has a sat phone and beg a minute to call their mom to let them know they are still alive.
Thats simply not how it works.
Altenrative coms would have to be restored to some logistically reasonable degree to meet the general needs before they could even begin to worry about df-ing someone doing unlicensed tx-ing.
Except as such tx-ing takes place on certain reserved freqs such as dedicated emergency freqs or those used by official agencies such as fema or police SAR and fire etc. Thats why its all channellized and segregated such as it is.
But even a company showing up handing out phones or allowing use of phones will not necessarily immediately invoke the alternate means of communication rule since just because there is availability of such in some case, doesnt mean that any specific person txing is able to access that means.
I know that some people who get that license read those rules and all the protocol and possible consequences of violating them and they get both leery of breaking them and also derive some sense of vicarious authority from being associated with it and having some type of secret or special knowledge that they can impart to other people with some air of importance or authority.
Just slow down and get your head out of the rarefied air and duck it back down here with the rest of us.
Its just a radio, its nice that its there and its really great that with as little govt oversight as there is, that it has a robust set of rules and guidelines as it does such that it keeps it ready to serve, but thats what its there for, to serve us, not to shackle us to its rule set.
So if you have a radio and an emergency, a real emergency, and lets say you also have a cell phone but for some reason that radio is the better answer despite the 'other means of communication rule' fuck it, tx and get your help.
If you have an emergency and the guy down the street with the foil all over his windows and six hungry looking pit bulls has a cell or land line or a heliograph or a telegraph or full blown internet access or even signal flares. Fuck it, tx and get your help.
The radio is there to serve you. Learn how to use it. Learn how to access aviation emergency channels. Dont ever do it for txing unless you need help NOW. But know how to do it. Those guys can get you help NOW pretty much anywhere you are and can likely help you find yourself if you dont happen to know where you are. But if you have a stationary rig, have your exact coordinate location posted in a permenant format at the station where if you are calling for help, you can simply give someone your exact physical location rather than im two miles northeast of cranberryville, via sh 3 three quarters of a mile up a dirt path off of old saw mill road. The people comming for you might not know cranberryville from cranberrystan and might think new sawmill road is old saw mill road. You might be dead by the time they find you. You want them to be able to plug your coodinates into g maps or whatever and be able to see in real time what your situation looks like so they dont send three potheads in an ambulance to extract you who get half way there and find out that they cant get to you because the bridge is out or the road is washed away and they should have sent a helicopter instead or a boat.
my dad got caught speeding by a cop with a cb who assured him that there were no speed traps ahead xD
“Like reddit moderators....”
Radio locked, y’all can’t behave!!
y'all'd've behaved before the radio was locked
@@Napert y'all'd've'nt
reddit moderators are the worst :/
redditors are the worst
Unlock the radio :)
the subtle clickbait. i like it. no all caps, just mellow and chill
Chillbait
This video is what inspired me to get my license. I had heard about ham radio but never really knew what it was about or what it could do. Now I'm getting started with EchoLink and getting my first DMR radio here in a bit.
73, KO4HJF
When i first saw this on my phone, the word button cut off at butt, and i read it as "Why 2.6 million people can push this up their butt."
I am okay with this.
Thats question 12 on the test. 'Refrain from putting radio antenna up butt'
@@pluto8404 can someone Jason please confirm this?
@@pluto8404 Some weirdo is going to try this now. Stay tuned for the video of doctors laughing at FR burns 18" inside someone colon.
@@herbalmelon8928 It's on the internet isn't it?
Three types of people:
1.) "like a FRS, GM- something"
2.) "GMRS"
3.) "LETTERS"
I remember the first time i watched this video i could not push the ptt button. I passed my test last year. Its so cool to see this video pop back up in my recommended.
I wouldn't advocate preppers to get their license, if the SHTF the FCC isn't going to be running around checking licenses. But the FCC can inspect your station WITHOUT a warrant. The last thing you're probably going to want as a prepper is a Fed Agency coming through your home, unannounced and without the necessity of a warrant.
My grandfather was W2ROT, he said it was 'with two rotten old tomatoes'. He helped design and install the early color television transmitters in Syracuse NY. I also had a totally blind roommate who passed the ham test with flying colors and enjoyed talking to people all over. The local club drove him to the white cross building and administered the test. Back in the 80s cb radio was still very popular. Ham radio privileges opened a vast new world of possibilities for who you could talk to and the distance you could communicate. Cheers, great video.
The Loma Priata Earthquake was in 1989, before cell phones were really a thing everyone had.
After the quake power and phones were out for some time, Ham radio operators put out signs offering to send messages. They'd contact other hams outside the effected area and those hams would call people on the phone to pass on messages.
And they did it for free. They were heroes.
Legally speaking, we are required by law to do such work free of charge and are not permitted to profit monetarily from the use of our licenses. That is the basic deal in exchange for otherwise free use of often very valuable radio frequency real estate.
@@ethanpoole3443 Sorry, but I find that hard to believe. I can maybe understand doing it at cost, but to force someone to do something for free, especially if providing that service has costs associated with it (such as long distance phone call charges) seems a bit out of line.
Can you provide a reference to these laws?
Eric Taylor I’d be happy to do so. While it is very briefly, if a little opaquely, touched upon in the opening section of FCC Part 97.1a (under Title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations) with the words “voluntary *noncommercial* communications service” (note: in this instance the use of “noncommercial” is used in the broadest sense of “commerce” to reference any sort of work in exchange for compensation, whether paid, barter, or in-kind exchange). However, the restriction is most clearly spelled out under Part 97.113 under the heading of “Prohibited Transmissions”. Under Part 97.113a(2) it is prohibited to engage in “communications for hire or material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided for in these rules.” Also, under Part 97.113a(3) we are forbidden to engage in “communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer, with the following exceptions. The exceptions touched upon under Part 97.113a(3)i-iv cover (paraphrased for brevity): i) operating on behalf of an employer in an emergency or readiness drill (this is to permit agencies like the Red Cross as well as licensed federal, state, county, or city emergency management officials to legally communicate with amateurs where their transmissions are merely an incidental aspect of their job and not the primary reason for their job during emergency and simulated disasters/drills); ii) an amateur operator may make occasional advertisements regarding the availability of goods or equipment for sale or trade that are specifically related to Amateur Radio Service (the on air “swap meet” exception); iii) compensation as an incident of a teaching position during the time of use (the school Radio Club exemption); and iv) the control operator of a club station may accept compensation for the periods of time when a station is transmitting telegraphy practice and bulletins for at least 40 hours each week, provided the service is offered on six, or more, MF or HF bands (1.8-30MHz) and where regular schedules are published at least 30 days in advance and the operator is in no way otherwise compensated for that time (in essence, a full time on air Morse code teacher may be compensated for their time if they are not otherwise compensated elsewhere).
Anyone may read the entirety of the Part 97 rules under which the Amateur Radio Service (as well as Part 95 if also interested in CB, FRS, or GMRS) is established online at the FCC.gov website or as part of the full Code of Federal Regulations under Title 47, Part 97. You can also access the Part 97 rules in their entirety at the American Radio Relay League’s website (our national club and lobbying entity) at ARRL.org (just search for “part 97” in the search box in the upper right-hand corner of the page),
@@ethanpoole3443 Thanks, but I think I see the problem here. See the word "voluntary"? No one is forced to provide these services. They are just not allowed to charge for them.
And though I'm no lawyer, I think the "non-commercial" has to do with no compensation for profit. I could be wrong, but there is a law in aviation sort of like this.
There is sort of the same thing in aviation. There are several different classes of pilot's license. The two that apply here are "private pilot's license" and "commercial pilot's license"
A commercial pilot has nothing to do with airliners. These two license types apply to general aviation. mostly "Cessna" type planes. It has to do with what the pilot can and cannot charge for his services.
A commercial pilot is allowed to charge passengers for profit. A private pilot can also charge his passengers but he can only charge the cost of operating. He can't charge for his labor.
Lets say you want me to give you a ride in my plane. it costs costs me say $100 per hour in fuel and maintenance. As a commercial pilot I could charge you $200 for a 1 hour ride, but as a private pilot I can still make you pay for the ride, but I can only charge you $100 for a one hour ride.
It simply wouldn't be reasonable to make the pilot fly you around for free, if it costs him to do so.
I still have a cb radio in my pickup. still use it on the logging roads.
My grandfather passed a few months ago, he loved his radio, antenna set up in the backyard. His call sign was KA0ROA
If you want to claim his call as a memorial call, you can do so. Family members are permitted to do that, you just need to match his license level (e.g. if he was General, you'd need to be General) and submit proof of death to the FCC and a request to claim his call as a vanity (after getting your sequentially-issued one.) Otherwise two years after the FCC learns of his death, his call will be released and can be claimed by anyone.
Persons without a license ARE allowed to transmit during an emergency ~ FCC rules section 97.7
:) lol Technically yes, but it's better to get the license. Not only would you learn the skills to build seriously powerful radios from scrap electronics, being registered also helps preserve the amateur hobby bands for future generations
All I can find is a "Control Operator' is needed. You provided the section but not the digits before. 47? 586? etc
47 CFR § 97.403 Safety of life and protection of property. (law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/97.403)
[my bad.. some older docs show this an ammedum to 47-97.7]
"No provision of these rules prevents the use by an amateur station of any means of radiocommunication at its disposal to provide essential communication needs in connection with the immediate safety of human life and immediate protection of property when normal communication systems are not available. "
"Amateur station " being typically defined as any hardware that can transmit on Ham/Reserved bands. It's this caveat that allows ordinary people to use Personal Locator and Maritime Distress Beacons in the event of an Emergency without being punished.
@@Jon6429 TY :)
Bishop Howells This incorrect “amateur station” in the rules means licensed amateur station. Without a license you are not an amateur station, you’re just a dude with a radio breaking federal regulations.
My father had a Ham radio that I got when he died. It is old and is a receiver only Tube type that still works. I don't really listen to it but it was my Dad's so I like having it. He used to sit and listen to it for hours, fiddling with the knobs and frequencies just to see what he could find.....Just remembering : /
Great to see the Ham radio videos on your channel. Nice work Josh too! Thanks Modern Rogue, keep the radio videos up.
My CB call sign was KAJB 0961, yes, I was licenced. My "handle" was "Red Sled", I had a FIAT X/1/9. de AD5TD
Thanks to your show for renergizing my interest in ham radio. I rewatched this episode a few months ago andjust finished getting my ham license.
This is a pretty fun episode! Josh's dry humor is great.
He has a special set of skills, that makes him a nightmare to trolls like you. He will look for you, he will RF direction find you and he WILL take away your ham radio privileges.
The licensing thing is a joke, Its not enforced, HAM operators everywhere will tell you that reporting someone is a damn joke..Nobody ever gets fined or charged.
True.lol
Only in certain cases. Like extreme or target investigations. Even the blanket audits
Well said
If you operate on restricted frequencies that interfere with airplanes and other entities that are taught to you when you study for the technician class ham radio license, the FCC and the FBI will both find you and lock you up and fine you!
@@marvinwebb1465 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣 I’ve been illegaly running those radios since I was in high school you’re an idiot
One of the nice thing about HAM culture is that when you make a new friend over the air, you can exchange post cards of your home town (or whatever). Many operators have collections of post cards from years of meeting people.... also, aside from bouncing off the moon, you can sometimes use the atmosphere to skip the signal (like skipping rocks on water) and increase distance with the same power.
4G: I have the largest cell coverage!
5G: I have the strongest signal ever!
2m: Amateurs!
A few years ago I was on a large worksite with hundreds of people from dozens of companies and everyone had UHF CBs (Australia). After switching channels for awhile my crew found a clean one with no one else on it, score. Fast forward 3 days and we are called up on that channel by search and rescue, we had been bouncing off a repeater and they had spent the last 3 days flying around trying to get within our receive range to tell us to get of channel.
Hot tip, stay off 5 and 35 in Australia.
Oh shit, you actually went onto the emergency repeater simplex and duplex.
Yeah, hope you guys didn't get fined!
@@mattymerr701 They were nice enough to let us off with a warning, honestly I would like to see the emergency frequencies noted on the handset so people don't make the same mistake we did.
"don't press the Button "
" i want to "
' WHY WOULD U "
"chill its a radio"
Who actually liked this tho
🙃
You ever try to keep a 5 year old away from pushable buttons.....????
Here in Australia, UHF radios are quite popular to have in your vehicle. No license or call sign is required when using one of the 80 channels for the general public.
So basically UHF radios is used like a CB but on steroids in Australia.
@@yogidemis8513 pretty much
Legally the ACMA (Australian FCC) kneecaps UHF CB to the point it's effectively a toy but in reality it's the wild west and everyone out bush is breaking the law with illegal 25w car radios and base stations in community centres.
In a literal emergency there's no legal way of communicating using radio, the FCC at least has stipulations for the rules to not apply in an emergency situation.
That's super cool!!
I have a story that I am sure was illegal on many levels after watching this video. For the record, no agency ever came knocking on our door, not because we were smart but because we lucky I guess. I was born and raised in a place that is now called Silicon Valley. My older brother bought a base unit CB radio but one of his friends knew a "guy" who mods CB radios. I do not know exactly what was done but I think it opened up other frequencies, again not sure. Anyway, the CB antennae was on top of our giant redwood tree in our back yard. I do not remember how far he could transmit and receive. I remember being able to eavesdrop into phone conversation from the new tech of cordless/wireless home phones. We could even talk over them and repeat what they just said. yes creepy and illegal. I assumed it was just from our immediate neighborhood. He never had a HAM Radio license. I'm surprised it was never hit with a lightning strike. If someone asked him about his setup , my brother would say 85' mast growing about 8" per year. lol. peace
Nowadays everything is encrypted.
Born and raised in San Jose. the good old days. Now that everything is encrypted. I'm just getting into Ham.
Ppl with a license and no life…😂 aka the “sad ham” you can find a lot of them in the comment sections of YT 😉
And in all of FCC history not even a citation was given to any unlicensed user of a UV-5R. As long as you use it as a simplex com, stay on safe frequencies and limit your Tx to 4W or less even the worst case of spurious emission won’t affect any air traffic beacons or shipping navigation.
@Sundas The Savage spitting facts
thats actually sick i wish i was alive when that was possible
I still remember the 1 time that somebody was pounding on my door and let me know there's a fire. I went out to my car, and was about ready to leave, then I remembered that I have a radio in my car. I put it up, (magnetic mounts with a cigarette plug), and turned on my linear amp so I could reach my grandfather. I identified and started transmitting, EMERGENCY. Grandpa! I'm about ready to have my house burn down. I'm about ready to leave but fire!!!" I didn't know what else to do, but I remembered: "if there is ever an emergency, use this." I did, and when I was leaving 8 plows were making circles around the house, I was leaving after I got my dog and cats in the car and just went to "anywhere but here!"
Radio is a very useful tool in the right circumstances. I got radioed back 3 hours later, (I went and hid in the canyon), that my house is now safe to return to. Radio is very very useful, but I was trained to never pick up the mic unless lives might be in danger, but I can listen all I want.
Fascinating story do you mind telling us the damage that the fire caused?
I've been avoiding this recommendation for a year and now I'm so mad at myself
I had loads of fun back in the late 70s, and early 80s with CB radio. We used to play "fox and hound" DF (Direction finding) games. My car had co-phased 8ft antennas towards the last 1/3 of the the car body. We could often find the fella(s) who were playing the "fox" by carefully circling the car and watching the change in the built in "S" (Signal strength) meter in the radio. Once someone found the "fox", we'd all go for coffee and snacks. Generally most CBers were kindly folks. It was also nice to listen to folks all over the world chatting when "skip" (the signals bounced off the upper atmosphere) was in. This post brought back fond memories of friends, so long since passed.
I have had my license for 4 years now. Best thing I've done!!! 73 to all
4 years, and yet you still say "73" incorrectly... hmm...
@@AureliusR He didn't say it incorrectly what are you talking about?
@@Bluegillbronco2 He edited his comment after I posted mine ;) Notice how it now says (edited)
When I got a CB radio in 1970's, my dad had to get a CB licence for me . We got a letter with our call sign from the FCC.. a few months later they no longer required you to have one.
.....what was your 20 back then ? I still have many C B units , base and mobile . One of my base units have side bands . With a good mic & ground plane antenna ! Get back into it , and practice radio procedures . Maranatha !
I’m a HAM (W4ADH) and this was very fun to watch. Very accurate and excellent info for anyone wanting to become licensed. Great work!
Accurate info? So you agree that if someone transmits without using a call sign that you’d find them and show up at their house?
That’s what he said in the video. You think that’s accurate? I think it’s not worth it. You could get shot by someone.
So my dad has multiple myeloma blood cancer, and because of that for months he wasn’t allowed to leave his apartment. His rent and other expenses is covered by the VA but he has a little money to play around with at the end of each month. My dad had always been interested in police scanners, Ham radios, various different radio gizmos and gadgets.
When my father was stuck in his apartment he decided to buy the same professional equipment that they refer to in this.
He doesn’t have a license, he just does it. He seriously just doesn’t care.
He messes with the cab company in his city, he nesses with the valet company at the local hospital he goes to almost every day.
He once played red dead redemption 2 audio clips on the “Red cab” company frequency in Worcester MA.
In his mind he’s just like “ what are they gonna do, I have cancer. And I’m a disabled vet”
My dad is a chaotic neutral
I like his thinking I bet he could get away with murder with that thinking
@Alex Mason the old internet is dead
Messing with cabs and valets sounds fun lol
I'm sorry your dad's so ill. He's in my prayers. 🙂
Perhaps he should consider getting a license. He could consider it as a "special achievement," something really cool that he did in his final years. I know I'd be pretty proud of the fact that I got that special license.
Perhaps you could even share in that "success" by helping him study for the exam?
I'm expecting a five hour upload of that dungeons and dragons one shot.
Also chrystal based radios! What radio wizards used before we had transistors.
Phill still have a crystal realistic radio in my rig! Love that thing!!
eh... transistor radios used crystals to determine the channel freq. also.
@The Modern Rogue
I saw this and it opened my eyes. I am now licensed as a general. Thanks for this!
I got arrested and landed in an Egyptian prison for a couple of hours for playing with my Boafangs with my friend near the pyramids
Godly they let me go but I lost my plane back .. since it was on the day of departure .. scariest hours of my entire life
Damn, a good lesson don't fuck with what you don't understand.
@@sunriseshell that's usually the best way to learn.
These reviews you see on Amazon, from people who bought a bunch of Chinese handheld radios for their families to use on an ocean cruise, are risking repeating your experience. In Mexico, drug cartels are putting up illegal repeaters for these radios on legitimate cell and broadcast towers. Ignorantly winding up on their channels could really ruin your vacation!
@@paulplack490 Are the Drug cartels going to raid you cruise ship? LOL Let me guess your a HAM Nerd with call sign and everything.
Used to work at the parts department at Yaseu. Lemme tell you HAMs are a different breed entirely. Some great stories and some painful customer service interactions.
@B P Thanks, you beat me to one of my pet peeves. "Ham" is a very old nickname with a mysterious etymology. It doesn't stand for anything. The actual name is the Amateur service.
Like one of the guy said, repeater is not limited to terrestrial. So distance of your HT is not limited to dozens of miles, but thousands of miles. As to Baofeng UV5R, the siren does not get transmitted.
Man, im into swords, you make video about swords, im into radios, i get this. You have become one of my favorite channels.
now just to make a radio, with a sword as the antenna or a sword.. with the hilt as a radio
mind blowing shit man
that is the stupidest thing I've commented in a while and its amazing how fast it got a like
@@NathanK97 ;-)
There is a difference between being able to do something and not being allowed to ;)
Why we aren't allowed to push this button
Get out of here with your technicalities
"Why 2.6 Million People May Push This Button But We Mayn't" doesn't have quite the same ring to it and sounds rather archaic.
Because your dong will fall off. If you were licensed, you'd know that you have to wear safety equipment that protects your dong. Happy transmitting!
15743 Hertz rubber band job like?
@@kavalogue Ssh! I'm really not supposed to tell, but I'll give a clue: search google for "chainmail condom".
"You're like Reddit moderators!" - Everybody laughs.
Yeah...that's not a good thing.
So I had my tech licence for just a few weeks and I was with somebody that knew a lot more about radios than I did but he had no ham licence... He was seriously considering getting one... He asked if he could talk on my radio using my call sign and I was right there... He had a short conversation and he thought it was great... I was immediately reprimanded by our local ham club and was warned several times over later that this was not acceptable... Even though I was faily sure that it was... It soured me from enjoying my ham licence and I know my friend never pursued the licence either... Even though he knew how to work on them...
Hope you ignored the sad hams. It is well within the regs for you to do that. I don't know the specific part that states it, but you are allowed to as shown here.
I also have a friend who knows way, way more about radio than I do, and he hasn't gotten his license. He experiments all the time with all sorts of radio and remote communication projects, which really is at the heart of amateur radio. Experimenting and enjoying radio.
Personally, because I'm so young compared to the others locally, it feels like the communication aspects are less interesting than the experimentation aspects anyway.
I'm looking more into digital modes and the like more because they seem so interesting
@@mattymerr701 technically,... it was their (clubs) repeater.. so.... 🤔
When I go over the speed limit I break a law. When I push the button I break a law. The man keeping me down.
Only when you get caught
Transmitting without knowing what other communications you're disrupting is no joke. Whether you're interfering with your local fire department or a drug lord, you're inviting unwanted consequences. Speed limits are sometimes overly restrictive, and some seem designed as revenue schemes. The regulations governing radio are minimal, designed to be only as restrictive as needed to keep a common public resource available to serve everyone.
Paul Plack, Breaking the law is breaking the law. There is no gray area. You can think that speeding laws are overly restrictive but if you go past the posted speed limit you are breaking the law. Speed limits are no joke and set to keep the public safe. Life is full of choices and there may be consequences to those choices.
@@Biogasifier the government overreach is astounding. It's the same thing the FCC telling everyone they need a license to talk and farther than across a room. I gladly break any unconstitutional "law" that limits my free speech.
@@Biogasifier the FCC needs to go!
Though Citizens Band has fallen to Skip Worlders, it is still a good radio practice to have it on hand for EmComm operations. Matter of fact my EmComm set up has the following types of radios. UHF AMATEUR, UHF BUSINESS, UHF PUBLIC SAFETY, VHF AMATEUR, VHF BUSINESS, VHF PUBLIC SAFETY, FRS, GMRS, CB, HF AMATEUR, HF CAP, HF MARS ALL TRANSCEIVERS ARE CAPABLE OF ALL MODE OPERATIONS TO INCLUDE DMR, PROVOICE AND NXDN EXCEPT THE FRS / GMRS TRANSCEIVERS. I ALSO RUN SEVERAL RECEIVERS SO THE PROBABILITY OF MISSING AN EMERGENCY CALL IS REDUCED.
is anyone else just now learning that apparently you can actually BURN yourself with a walkie-talkie that has no antenna‽
What?
Even with the antenna attached, you can reach a power limit where you can suffer RF burns.
I do it all the time at work but with one that has an antenna. It smarts.
Yep, RF burn. It gets more serious if you have a tower up and someone is touching it when you transmit. Like Hoshnasi said, you can have up to 1,500 watts on certain bands. It's also interesting that certain wavelengths have more of an affect on the human body than others. The 6 meter band (50MHz), can cook you with high enough power just by standing near it which is why it has the lowest duty cycle, or amount of time you can transmit of all the bands.
I mean to some point it is kinda like a microwave. Just energy being transmitted in waves of you get enough of it/ the right frequency it can do some damage
10:07 - Being an amateur radio operator (KI5AOK), I just want to point this time stamp out in the video. Notice that when the display shows the frequency, it says "GMRS2 462.587". For those of you who are starting out in Amateur radio, the Beofang units will transmit on frequencies that are not part of the amateur band. This includes the 30 channels that are for General Mobile Radio Service (GMRS), which occupies the 462 and 467 MHz band (which is outside Amateur radio license area of 420-450 MHz). Transmitting in the GMRS assigned channels require two things:
- A different set of call signs (seven characters, consisting of four alpha and three numeric [i.e. WRAW744, which is my GMRS call sign]
- A part 95 certified radio.
The problem with the mobile radios shown is that they are part 90 certified, which means that the Baofeng used cannot legally transmit on GMRS, even if you have a GMRS license. They work for the topic that is being discussed (amateur radio channels) but not for GMRS.
Also, if you are too buy a baofeng; many distributors have begun locking the tx(transmit), as well as the raddiodity gt5r has it locked as well for sure. In order to stop from being used on frs/gmrs
Yeah but who cares
I studied like crazy to ace my Amateur Extra exam, then found that the local radio club was not very welcoming (perhaps because the president had failed to earn his Extra license) and so I pursued other interests. Now there are some new, inexpensive radios which makes playing around in HAM radio much easier.
The entire scanner Community has gone into remission due to public safety agencies scrambling and withholding information necessary to monitor that space. I think we need to get back to the principal that anything transmitted over the air should be Audible maybe recordable. What about effective cell phone to a conversation programs? Also shouldn't you be able to monitor your local police department like before. Do you think that police violence might lessen if their radio waves were public domain again?
Lot of personal information gets put out on calls is why they would encrypt, I get why they do it or why an EMS company or hospital will do it for patient privacy reasons. Also if you are trying to bust a drug operation you don't want the druggies listening in. It makes sense and gets complicated because we want police transparency but also do want criminals having the upper hand.
Police violence is a fallacy for the most part and here is why: There is a REASON the cops stop you and that reason is YOU did something to get their attention. How you act determines how they act. It's literally that simple.
Now there are rotten cops and rookies with huge egos, usually those do not last long on the force.
Pardon my sarcasm, but----So let's pretend we live in your fantasy world: An innocent family is being held hostage at gunpoint by a drug crazed individual for some reason or another. And...he has his handy dandy police scanner on listening to the cops, which is now easily done because they are required to transmit everything in the clear so as to prevent "police violence". The doper hears the sergeant on the radio give a sniper the order to take him out if there is a clear shot. So...what do you think is going to happen next? The mental state of the criminal just went off the scale because he now knows he has nothing to loose...
How about another scenario: A drug seller with previous convictions knows if he gets caught again he's going to prison for a very long time and he hears an undercover officer being dispatched to investigate reported drug activity by him. What do you think is going to happen? How many cops need to die in ambushes to make sure they don't abuse their authority in your fantasy?
I have a better idea: Your cell phone is highly encrypted and pretty secure. What do you say that cell phone encryption be done away with in ALL phones so anyone can monitor and record anyone they choose...like you want to do to the police. I mean wouldn't people be more cautious if they knew they were being recorded! Violence would have to go down, right??? Wouldn't that lessen criminal activity just like it would the "police violence" that you think exists?
The reason the scanner community has went by the wayside is because of radio Trunking systems (look it up), in vehicle computers and encryption.
You should really look at easily obtainable statistics about actual "police violence" before forming opinions based on media "reports" from proven liars. Don't forget, the "news" media is like UA-cam, Google, Facebook and the rest; nothing matters but clicks and the more clicks they generate with good "content", the more money they make, except the news channels also make money off of views. More views=higher advertising prices=more revenue.
Please the Russians in the Chinese already got technology in North Korea that can break any encryption
@@idahosagebrush5662 We just switched our counties radio system off the analog un-encrypted 800 MHz Type2 trunking and onto P25-2 with AES encryption that gets renewed weekly and the official statement from the comms coordinator was "We DO NOT want criminals and their lookouts listening in especially in certain police matters, or Fire, Rescue, EMS calls where HIPPA laws can be violated."
I work on this system and I do not get to have a radio nor am I allowed to use my own laptops to program the radios, only their computers and I am under supervision when I am doing it. No flash drives no cell phones, no cameras and no paper notes are to be removed from the programming area. They DO NOT want the systems specifics and encryption information getting out and onto places like radioreference dot com.
The fantasy world is where the police and other services do transmit with transparency openly for all to hear like in the old days when police were on the HF band and your house radio could tune them in. That idea in 2020 is pure unchecked fantasy that will NEVER happen.. The era of listening to the police scanner on the cheap is over. In due time there will be ways to tune in, most likely starting with SDR radios and some computer magic then stolen radios will start showing up on ebay for under $1000 with bootleg programming software and god knows what. I made the decision a while back to just give up on listening in because I have my own business and life to lead, I do not care what the cop or fire depts are doing as long as they are catching dangerous criminals, saving lives, and putting out fires, the shit my tax money pays for each year.
@@Elfnetdesigns found the corrupt cop that hide behind a corrupt police union
Where I live we had illegal public transportation services still using radio to avoid cops up until like one or two years ago.
@@vlc-cosplayer It's the best way I could explain it, English isn't my first language. They worked exactly like public transportation, but weren't organized by the government and used vans instead of buses.
I was a kid in the 70s, and dad always had a CB radio in both his truck and mom's station wagon. I still use CB radios today, albeit a Cobra 29ltd bluetooth, and a Cobra 2000 gtl base station at home. I also have several handheld HAM radios, and have my HAM licence. If something were to happen to terrestrial communications, CBs are a valuable means of communications. All of my children, including neices and nephews have as well.
I have to say, HRCC is a wonderful alternative to the doldrums that HAM Nation has become. Modern Rogue just takes it to the next level. If you guys did a strictly ham podcast produced to this quality or even half as good, I'd watch every single time.
I appreciate the kind words!
HRCC live streams on Friday nights are awesome... 🍻📻
Yeah, HRCC and AmateurLogic have always been way better than HAM Nation.
What is HRCC ?
I had picked up a used CB radio many years back and after I got it home, I decided to check things out. With the help of a frequency counter, I discovered it was transmitting on every band out there including police, emergency vehicle, aircraft, etc. I check it because when I had tried transmitting, it would trip the local banks security system and had police crawling around the area trying to find who was transmitting on their private frequencies. I got rid of that radio very quickly by destroying it.
Somebody messed with the filters - this should not happen normally. This reminds me of the old moped days, where some folks thought replacing the exhaust on a 2-stroke with a garden hose would make it faster. This is just stupid and demonstrates little understanding of physics.
I love the energy between the three of you. It's so positive and infectious. I was watched the first video I came across from this channel 2 days ago, about the short scan signals for numbers station. In that video, when the guy with the glasses was getting excited about finding something on the rainbow of signals, I was getting excited too.
Many a years ago, I had a HAM operator about a half a mile away, that's let's just say he was a bit overpowered, he kept interfering with my FM radio. He was easy to find due to the large antenna in his yard. I told him about listening to his covo's at night. He apologized and went and bought me a filter to put on my radio antenna.
So for just radio it worked great, when bored I would unhook it and listen to him. I did get a bunch of good info from his talking, lol.
FCC would ruin him. Causing interference in the FM Band on Commercial Radio-stations. BUT if you dont mind / good friends. No harm done :)
@Steve Terry right, but what about those without a Filter? Again, this would be interference regardless.
Unless he gonna hand out a filter to every single person within that radius.. 😂
@Steve Terryright, so you are telling me that this is fault of the receiver and not at fault of the Source of the interference? Lol.
Sounds like that's fancy talk for not taking responsibility.
@@stan464 the problem lies in the filtering system of the radio that was being interfered with it had a poor Front End on the radio the amateur went out of his way to buy a filter for someone he did not know for something he did not have to fix but wanted to help so he went out and spent his money to help this person not have a problem with his cheap radio.
@@stan464 Yeah, it's called poor selectivity and the FCC recognizes it as a problem with the receiver, not the person transmitting as long as they are operating within the confines of Part 97.
can we just let Jason do a D&D ep we already let Brian show off his fire eating
Demont both of them doing it in quick succession in the background of each other with their individual cameras eagerly proving to themselves they are the best at what they do
Great stuff!!! Brings back memories. Kid up the street on a hill used to have a Drake 2B pulled in stuff from all over the world, and could sometimes skip back. Wall covered in cq cards. He had it bad. I just used to listen to all sorts of long range broadcastsfrom around the world (RFE, BBC, German & Mexican stations.). Fun! Late nite listening. Thankyou for the Wayback Machine, Sherman.
I remember my sister actually got her FCC call sign when she was heavy into CB. Had a big base station, power mic. I could be wrong, it has been, 40 years or so. . . KAGH-3588 that sounds right. . .maybe. Oh, I was the Boston Strangler. CB was nuts back then. Meets, parties, the custom vsn club every truck had a rig, and 100 pounds of vibrant shag carpet.
@Robert Slackware your grandmother did what now? The only times I've been shot at were doing cop tows on abandoned vehicles. Nobodies granny ever popped a shot at me and I don't like the implications behind accusing me of picking a house. I'm no burglar.
@Robert Slackware so, you're referring to the actual Boston Strangler from the early 60s and having nothing to do with the subject at hand?
Did you see how fast he grabbed the radio when the dude hit the emergency button? 🤣 The licensed guy is like "give me that thing. Friggin' talking about drug money, you're gonna get my license yanked."
Nobodys license is getting yanked he didn't even transmit it it only went over the phone, and the licensed guy already had just said someone else could operate under his call sign with him around allowing someone to do so. People need to pay attention more I know it's hard because these guys are all at overacting about the cops coming I'm sorry but in real life it isnt like that unless you're truly interrupting a specific channel or just over being an asshole and a menace.
You PAY for a license and some volunteers from a radio club would “come find you” and “show up at your house”?
That’s dangerous. Ya best not. I know I’m not the only one who could be provoked to violence by that.
Years ago, someone threatened me over the CB and I traced the signal and showed up in the driveway and described their home to them over the air. If you ain’t law enforcement, don’t be threatening folks or acting like the radio sheriff. The FCC is the law, not some civilians in a radio club. Don’t be a ham hero.
you guys have officially made it into my bookmark bar
When i was in the service i operated fm, hf, shf, uhf, and vhf. Between handheld prc-148 mbitrs to shf radios that took 2 or more guys just to move the transmitter. Even some ku band satcom work too.
I am a swedish ham since 1982. I enjoyed this conversation. Especially the comment about that there is a special frequency that you tap into, after you studied to be a ham, and say -"I´m ready"
A radio you say?
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Where do you come from?
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Conversation starter: is Justin Y an Alien?
When the guy that used to comment on every vid and you haven't seen in years finally comes and comment
I though you only existed on viral videos.
@@drained1177 He is on hundreds of smaller channels, he pops up every once in a while on niche gamimg vids that I watch
It cant be very easy to catch people abusing the airwaves illegally.
Unless they stay on long enough for a FCC team to assemble and triangulate... and that could be hours depending where you live....
I mean.. do they really have FCC 'swat' teams sitting around the country waiting/scanning/listening for it? Cant see it tbh..
Your own neighbors going Gestapo on you is the only way you get caught.
Usually it's the people you are interfering with who locate you... All it takes is a good directional antenna lol
Yes and no. People get caught from time to time. But in general, you really have to piss someone off to get the feds on you. But yes, you have to do it long enough to be located, which isn't really as much as you think. (accurate, synchronized clocks at a few listening stations, and you're nailed.)
@@jfbeam I see, that makes sense.
@@jfbeam five seconds is all i need to horse around
Example of emergency situations. During the recovery of the space shuttle Columbia. The only way to communicate in the area was by Ham radio.