Excellent reviews and feedback! I traded comments with you a few months ago regarding recommendations for a 4+ hour marathoner and you recommended the Hoka Cielo X1. I took your advice and ran NYC Marathon in November (only my 2nd marathon) in that shoe and could not have been happier with the shoe choice (my only other marathon was NYC in 2023). Felt comfortable and confident the entire marathon. Your common sense reviews of shoes for both slower and faster runners is excellent, keep up the awesome work!!
I had a similar situation. My race shoe Puma arrived 2 days before race day and my big 10k pb attempt. It was post run so I went back out literally did 3 sets of strides in them then took them to race day. Came away with a 6 minute PB crossing the line at 46.12
Love the shoutout to Jared with the Puma Deviate Elite 3. I actually sold him that shoe on the supwell app and told him to go for it as well! :) It really is a great race shoe.
I ran my first 2 marathons in the Kinvarra 8’s 😂, bought in 2017 for $110! it’s so true that we don’t need these carbon plated racers. That said, my latest marathon was run in the Deviate Elite 3 and wow what a better experience I had, and a faster recovery! Not to mention a big ol’ PR!
I ran my first marathon this year in the Hoka Cielo X1! Zero running ever to full marathon in 5 months. Finished in 5:23. Shoe was legendarily fantastic. Have about 80 miles on it now and still feels like day 1 (and zero foam or tread wear). Absolutely the people’s shoe.
Zero running ever? So did you fly all your life?? Haha just kidding. Wish I could train 5 months and do a marathon.... Just started 3-4 months and I can barely do 10k 😂😂
I wore the Endorphin Elite for my PR at Chicago ‘23, but I’m going Demon Time AF3 for Houston in 3 weeks. Totally understand about the disappear-on-your-feet VS the thinking-about-the-shoe feeling. For me, the Endorphin Elite disappears and I just run fast. The AlphaFly 3 doesn’t, but what I’m thinking about is the pop forward I get, so I’m going to frame that as positive feedback instead of distraction. I’m eager to see you put in some work in the Endorphin Elite 2 next year (among others)!
14:10 small detail, but thought i'd point it out. It's the DN Elite 3. Not the DN3. But thanks for the review. I got the DN3 by mistake thinking it's the Velocity. But gonna try it out. I meant to get a regular daily trainer for relaxed miles, regular runs. Not a fast daily trainer. How does the Velocity compare. Is it worth keeping both. I don't mind keeping a do it all super trainer. Anyways, I'll try it out.
I haven't even finished running in my other shoes because of my Puma Velocity Nitro 3. It feels so good. And I got it when it was on sale too. Man, if y'all on Subwell app you already know how I feel about this shoe. I loooove that rocker too and I run on the balls of my feet, too. Shoot, I'm definitely getting another pair, too.
Literally every single one of these shoes is sold out in Australia in mainstream sizes 10.5, 11 and most others. I did see a heavier set guy running 6:30/km in Alphaflies this morning though.
Did you try to say the name of my Norwegian runner hero: Jakob Ingebrigtsen?!😂 You have a looooong way until you pass that test😂. But kudos for remembering that he's Very sponsored by Nike😁. Personally I will continue with Adidas & Asics. The VF3 caused me pain at 28K in this years Stockholm marathon. Ran a sub 3:30 4 weeks later in Novablast 4, and then Frankfurt & Malaga (sub 3:20) in Adidas Pro 3.
Great review. I currently own two pairs of Endorphin Pro 3’s (got them on sale for the lowwww), and I said to myself I wouldn’t purchase another race shoe until I complete my first marathon, but those Nitro Elite 3’s look too clean. With that being said, I’m aiming for a cool 4:30. I’ve tested the EP3 on a long run of 14 miles and I felt pretty comfortable the entire run. Would the EP3 suffice for a first marathon or is there better tech out now?
Endorphin pro 3 is still great for a first marathon and the tech definitely isn't outdated. Same race foam and carbon fiber plate setup as a lot of the newer shoes on this list - also I used the endorphin pro 3 for my first marathon!
Just make sure that if you ever use it, and you have Honey installed (which I would highly recommend you uninstall), absolutely do not click on anything related to Honey because they'll steal the commission from Yowana
Great video. Is the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 more bouncy than the Rocket X 2? As bouncy as the Mach X 2? Personally, I find the Mach X 2 more fun than the Rocket X 2.
Picked up the flaming alphafly 3 yesterday. Looks great, literally fire 🔥. Did first shake out 10k in it today. Very fast. May give it a full send next week at parkrun. Still maybe for me initially would still take adidas prime x strung 1 for marathon over this but that may change after a few runs.
Yes, get your miles, even if it's one. On my work days, I just run the 1/2 mile each way from the parking structure. At other times in my life, I just made sure to go home and shoot baskets for at least 1/2 hour after work.
27:48 I run somewhere between 3h45-4h for a marathon, but I find the Cielo X1 way too heavy, clunky and bulky for race day. To the contrary and although some people may say otherwise: the Saucony Pro 3 are a perfect fit for that pace. Now that the Pro 3 are out of production and on your recommendation, I will give the Deviate Nitro 3 a try. Thanks for the tip. Your videos are getting better and better. I just subscribed.
Puma for me, i did a 10 mile in it, my legs just fine and i just started running back from 77kg to now 64kg, and i can say if you heavy or not this shoe is just all rounder for everyone
I did a 19 miles this past Wednesday on the pro 4 . 9 :30 average pace and I weight 170 show and heavy the first 10 were easy . Also the pro is very light and comfortable shoe
Go for Adidas Pro 3/4! 85 kg is just as heavy as me, and I ran both Frankfurt & Malaga in Pro3, 3:17 & 3:19. So on a good to normal day sub 3:30 ought to be "no problem"!
Agree on the g wagon comp for the alphafly...haven't bought a pair for that exact reason. It is kind of dumb and I flip flop on it but yeah I just can't bring myself to buy it (yet).
Was the Nike really second place for your Chicago decision, not the On? I thought you were close to wearing On in the race, but it was low on this list. I also remember you saying the Puma was below those top 3, but it ranks above the On here.
Nothing stops the the Grand Master Hobby Jogger from bringing the daily podcast. PDNE 3 and Hoka Rocket X 2 favorite 2024 race shoes. Last 3 HM of 2024 On Cloudboom Strike also set my HM PB in the On
Not sure if it’s something anyone else would care about or you’d even care to do but I’d be interested in a best walking shoes of 2024 like you recommended ghost max last year and it changed my life lmao
@@dannydevito2587 for this year i swear New Balance Balos should be on the list, idk why but i wore them everytime i go out and the softness is just on another level 😍
@@MsPietpaaltjes real runners know what they’re comfortable to use, but maybe not others, every aspect of feet/weight/bones etc are not the same for everyone, but i respect you can use af n vf well, cuz i used it too and yeah its just so good but DNE3 was the best for me
He always says vegan but eats honey. No milk products though. Close to vegan, and I have to say a lot of people who identify as vegan are much further from it than him.
The mystery of the street filming is finally revealed! I absolutely get it!😁
Excellent reviews and feedback! I traded comments with you a few months ago regarding recommendations for a 4+ hour marathoner and you recommended the Hoka Cielo X1. I took your advice and ran NYC Marathon in November (only my 2nd marathon) in that shoe and could not have been happier with the shoe choice (my only other marathon was NYC in 2023). Felt comfortable and confident the entire marathon. Your common sense reviews of shoes for both slower and faster runners is excellent, keep up the awesome work!!
Ready for that episode focusing on puma. Love their race shoe for my fall marathon.
@@023shadowfax same here
Same
Yes! I can’t wait for the new MagMax colors to drop. I’m getting all three that were on display at TRE.
Another banger man. A list for beginner/novice runners trying out their first marathons would be great too!
I had a similar situation. My race shoe Puma arrived 2 days before race day and my big 10k pb attempt. It was post run so I went back out literally did 3 sets of strides in them then took them to race day. Came away with a 6 minute PB crossing the line at 46.12
Our local running specialty store loves the deviate nitro elite. Frontrunner colombo in Christchurch! They are avid competitors and runners. 👍👍
Great video! I love the DNE 3 and Cielo X1.
Love the shoutout to Jared with the Puma Deviate Elite 3. I actually sold him that shoe on the supwell app and told him to go for it as well! :) It really is a great race shoe.
Congrats to Dante for running a sub-4 in Chicago!
I ran my first 2 marathons in the Kinvarra 8’s 😂, bought in 2017 for $110! it’s so true that we don’t need these carbon plated racers. That said, my latest marathon was run in the Deviate Elite 3 and wow what a better experience I had, and a faster recovery! Not to mention a big ol’ PR!
Agreed... The carbon plate also surprisingly allowed a faster recovery.
Wonder if it makes us lazy trainers if wore everyday 😂
@@BradGuth2688 yeah bro, i did a PR without even noticing when i did a half marathon, a new 10/15/21km 😂
I ran my first marathon this year in the Hoka Cielo X1! Zero running ever to full marathon in 5 months. Finished in 5:23. Shoe was legendarily fantastic. Have about 80 miles on it now and still feels like day 1 (and zero foam or tread wear). Absolutely the people’s shoe.
Zero running ever? So did you fly all your life??
Haha just kidding. Wish I could train 5 months and do a marathon.... Just started 3-4 months and I can barely do 10k 😂😂
I wore the Endorphin Elite for my PR at Chicago ‘23, but I’m going Demon Time AF3 for Houston in 3 weeks. Totally understand about the disappear-on-your-feet VS the thinking-about-the-shoe feeling. For me, the Endorphin Elite disappears and I just run fast. The AlphaFly 3 doesn’t, but what I’m thinking about is the pop forward I get, so I’m going to frame that as positive feedback instead of distraction.
I’m eager to see you put in some work in the Endorphin Elite 2 next year (among others)!
I’m working for a 3:15 marathon in May! I have a 40% coupon comin my way in a month or so so I definitely have my eyes on the Alphaflys
14:10 small detail, but thought i'd point it out. It's the DN Elite 3. Not the DN3. But thanks for the review. I got the DN3 by mistake thinking it's the Velocity. But gonna try it out. I meant to get a regular daily trainer for relaxed miles, regular runs. Not a fast daily trainer. How does the Velocity compare. Is it worth keeping both. I don't mind keeping a do it all super trainer. Anyways, I'll try it out.
I haven't even finished running in my other shoes because of my Puma Velocity Nitro 3. It feels so good. And I got it when it was on sale too. Man, if y'all on Subwell app you already know how I feel about this shoe. I loooove that rocker too and I run on the balls of my feet, too. Shoot, I'm definitely getting another pair, too.
Woohoo DNE3 made the cut - Supercalifragilistic-TPU for the win! Thanks for the vid 😊
@@jardesto yeah man, this just made my purchase even more worth it 😂
Ran so much over break so much easier than when I am working to get out there. Used superblast 2 for me a valid do it all shoe
Literally every single one of these shoes is sold out in Australia in mainstream sizes 10.5, 11 and most others.
I did see a heavier set guy running 6:30/km in Alphaflies this morning though.
Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 is an incredible shoe! Unreal for fast paced long runs
Would you consider making a video about your favorite running gear (e.g., gloves, socks, base layers, etc.)?
Did you try to say the name of my Norwegian runner hero: Jakob Ingebrigtsen?!😂 You have a looooong way until you pass that test😂. But kudos for remembering that he's Very sponsored by Nike😁. Personally I will continue with Adidas & Asics. The VF3 caused me pain at 28K in this years Stockholm marathon. Ran a sub 3:30 4 weeks later in Novablast 4, and then Frankfurt & Malaga (sub 3:20) in Adidas Pro 3.
He's messing up the pronunciation on purpose. Did it before in quite an exaggerated way 🙂
Great review. I currently own two pairs of Endorphin Pro 3’s (got them on sale for the lowwww), and I said to myself I wouldn’t purchase another race shoe until I complete my first marathon, but those Nitro Elite 3’s look too clean.
With that being said, I’m aiming for a cool 4:30. I’ve tested the EP3 on a long run of 14 miles and I felt pretty comfortable the entire run. Would the EP3 suffice for a first marathon or is there better tech out now?
Endorphin pro 3 is still great for a first marathon and the tech definitely isn't outdated. Same race foam and carbon fiber plate setup as a lot of the newer shoes on this list - also I used the endorphin pro 3 for my first marathon!
@@supwell Nice. I think I’ll stick with the EP3 for my first marathon and graduate from there. Sn, also enjoying the Supwell community. Great work. 👌🏼
Been watching the videos didn’t know you had a running warehouse link… maybe something to mention alongside supwell every time
He does most of the time
Oh
Just make sure that if you ever use it, and you have Honey installed (which I would highly recommend you uninstall), absolutely do not click on anything related to Honey because they'll steal the commission from Yowana
How close to the best shoes of this year are the good ol' Adios Pro 3? It's crazy how heavily discounted they are!
Puma definitely changed my mind on its running shoes.
Great video. Is the Deviate Nitro Elite 3 more bouncy than the Rocket X 2? As bouncy as the Mach X 2? Personally, I find the Mach X 2 more fun than the Rocket X 2.
Picked up the flaming alphafly 3 yesterday. Looks great, literally fire 🔥.
Did first shake out 10k in it today. Very fast.
May give it a full send next week at parkrun.
Still maybe for me initially would still take adidas prime x strung 1 for marathon over this but that may change after a few runs.
Yes, get your miles, even if it's one. On my work days, I just run the 1/2 mile each way from the parking structure. At other times in my life, I just made sure to go home and shoot baskets for at least 1/2 hour after work.
Love that 💪🏽
27:48 I run somewhere between 3h45-4h for a marathon, but I find the Cielo X1 way too heavy, clunky and bulky for race day. To the contrary and although some people may say otherwise: the Saucony Pro 3 are a perfect fit for that pace.
Now that the Pro 3 are out of production and on your recommendation, I will give the Deviate Nitro 3 a try. Thanks for the tip.
Your videos are getting better and better. I just subscribed.
Hey man, wide foot hobby jogger here. Which of these would you say has a wider toe box?
AF3 Proto, what a shoe 🎉
Terrific video, for a heavy and slow runner Saucony Pro4 o Puma Elite 3? Please help me 🙏🏽
Pro 4 is alright haven’t tried the puma
Puma for me, i did a 10 mile in it, my legs just fine and i just started running back from 77kg to now 64kg, and i can say if you heavy or not this shoe is just all rounder for everyone
But so you know, it’s hard to find now tbh 😂
I did a 19 miles this past Wednesday on the pro 4 . 9 :30 average pace and I weight 170 show and heavy the first 10 were easy . Also the pro is very light and comfortable shoe
Love to hear your thoughts on Alphafly 3 Vs Alphafly 1.
I loved the DNE2 ran my first half marathon on it but i drifted to the adios pro series because Adidas just does it better.
Nice vidéo, thank you, how do you compare Cielo X vs prime x strung for a 85kg runner doing marathon in 3h30?
Go for Adidas Pro 3/4! 85 kg is just as heavy as me, and I ran both Frankfurt & Malaga in Pro3, 3:17 & 3:19. So on a good to normal day sub 3:30 ought to be "no problem"!
@@MusicChristo thank you , nice time !
I hope Puma moves into the moderate drop game. I don't get along well with 10mm stuff, especially as a former long-time barefoot mafia member.
Agree on the g wagon comp for the alphafly...haven't bought a pair for that exact reason. It is kind of dumb and I flip flop on it but yeah I just can't bring myself to buy it (yet).
The Swoosh 👑
Did you notice the new all black Alphafly 3 release? $320 is ridiculous.
Get your miles in!
Sweet list
Was the Nike really second place for your Chicago decision, not the On? I thought you were close to wearing On in the race, but it was low on this list.
I also remember you saying the Puma was below those top 3, but it ranks above the On here.
Can people from outside the US (UK) use the supwell app? Specifically be included in the giveaways?
Nothing stops the the Grand Master Hobby Jogger from bringing the daily podcast.
PDNE 3 and Hoka Rocket X 2 favorite 2024 race shoes. Last 3 HM of 2024 On Cloudboom Strike also set my HM PB in the On
Dang, Bro throwing out the Mint Hill address lol
Not sure if it’s something anyone else would care about or you’d even care to do but I’d be interested in a best walking shoes of 2024 like you recommended ghost max last year and it changed my life lmao
@@dannydevito2587 for this year i swear New Balance Balos should be on the list, idk why but i wore them everytime i go out and the softness is just on another level 😍
@@rabbanirahimi8028oh really? I hadn’t seen much talk outside of long runs in them I’ll have to have a look! Thank you!!!
Best racing shoe of 2024 ASICS Metaspeed Sky Paris ❤
Live postal deliveries
Found your channel this week and have been flying through your videos - Would love to see a review of the Saucony Ride 18!
thank you! will def be testing the ride 18 once available
Fellow plant based runner here my man.. if i didn’t respect you enough before, i do so much more now ✊🏽
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Only Alphafly or vaporfly for me none of that other crap matters
Real runners know the nike raceshoes are still the best
@@MsPietpaaltjes real runners know what they’re comfortable to use, but maybe not others, every aspect of feet/weight/bones etc are not the same for everyone, but i respect you can use af n vf well, cuz i used it too and yeah its just so good but DNE3 was the best for me
@@MsPietpaaltjes good job we have “real runners” like you out there to offer us all guidance 😂😂
@@tombola4046 you are welcome sir :D
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Are you vegan or vegetarian?
He always says vegan but eats honey. No milk products though. Close to vegan, and I have to say a lot of people who identify as vegan are much further from it than him.
@@brianway4240 I noticed that too. Did he do a video on it?
He is mostly plant based diet
He's a hobby jogger
are you the rock or dwayne johnson
see guys: film outside, prevent divorce paper. a very deep philosophical thinking there.
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King
Who else misses the Westside Gunn “BOOMBOOMBOOM” ad libs every time he says Cloudboom Strike?
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Let’s go yeeee
Yes puma too narrow fr
High mileage will bite You back later with injuries
False
Then you run too fast...
Runner hat restock when????