1930s Ideal Shirley Temple Doll Collection (Composition)
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2021
- This is an overview of my antique/vintage 1930s Ideal Shirley Temple doll collection. These dolls are all composition and date from 1934-1936. I have restored most of them and sewn most of their clothing (copied from original Shirley Temple doll ensembles, and in some cases, copied from dresses Shirley Temple herself wore). I apologize in advance for the super close shots -- when I tried to stabilize the wobbly filming, the software blew it up -- so it was either more wobbles or closer shots. The last part of the video contains still shots of all of the before and after photos of the doll before restoration and after restoration.
You made them beautiful again! Lots of work you did to them!!
It is a lot of work, but so worth it in the end! Thank you so much for joining us today! :)
This was really interesting and informative. I'd love to see your other doll collections and maybe even a step by step of how you restore the dolls. Look forward to more.
Thank you, Brittany. I do have other videos planned for my Effanbee vintage composition collection, my reproduction S.F.B.J. Bleuette collection, and my random other vintage doll collection. In addition to 3 dollhouse tours! Thank you for the great idea on the restoration videos. And, thank you for watching today :)
Your dolls are so beautiful and sweet! I love them 😍. Sweet honey and have a wonderful day.
Awww, thank you so much! Y'all have a great day too! Spring is close!
Tengo dos pero no se q hacer con ellas🤔
The first Shirley Temple dolls were marketed in fall of 1934, at that time, "Stand Up and Cheer" had just come out, and Shirley was just beginning to gain popularity. Because Ideal (the ONLY company licensed to sell the Shirley Temple doll) did not know how successful the dolls would be, the first dolls, the "prototype" doll, were not marked Shirley Temple, and were only marked on the inside of the head "(C) 1934 Ideal Novelty and Toy Co."(also might be marked just Ideal on the head), by my own observation, these dolls had chubbier cheeks than the Shirleys made later in production, probably because Shirley was so young, and chubby herself. These dolls are slightly more valuable that the later Shirley dolls.
Correct. Though those dolls are extremely rare. You often see sellers on Ebay, etc trying to sell unmarked Shirley clones as "prototypes" -- most of which are absolutely not prototypes. Unfortunately, "prototype" has become synonymous with "unmarked" in the selling world. I would never purchase an unmarked Shirley without being able to examine it in person. There are SO many clones out there -- and not just American made...there were so many clones produced in other countries as well. Some of them were high quality (Canadian, Reliable Toy Company), but most of them were rougher composition and the face sculpts were lacking. Unless someone knows the seller as a reputable doll seller, I'd avoid any unmarked Shirley Temple doll unless it was Mint or had some other 100% ironclad determining factors involved.
So neat my daughter collects some dolls. I did a video on them a long while back. Her friend got her into the dolls as well. Ha e an awesome night! I am finally getting to watch this. You have a nice collection and a lot of knowledge. Blessings! Wendy🐞🧚♂️🐝
Thank you, Wendy. I love sewing for them! Thanks for watching :)
@@CanterburyTrailsFarm I need to take some pictures of the dolls and messenger you them so you can see if you want them. If nothing else you could take the clothes or repair the dolls I am not sure? My husband wanted to throw them away, I said no someone will want them, I am still working on that man. He is really getting better. At least he compost and recycles. But some things he still needs to work on. I always enjoy your videos!
@@hardnackfarms1736 I'd love to see the photos! I only restore/collect composition dolls, but I would be able to tell what they were from photos :)
I have a Shirley Temple doll that wasn't made by Ideal. She was made in Canada by Reliable Toy Company. They were licensed by Ideal to make the doll in Canada. So those dolls are also legitimate Shirley Temple dolls. Mine was my mother's, who was the same age as Shirley and who also had blonde banana curls. My grandmother was Canadian. So when you say dolls aren't real Shirley Temple dolls, I think what you mean is that they weren't Ideal Shirley Temple dolls. But Shirley as made by Reliable Toy Company was a licensed Shirley Temple doll.
Yes, you are correct to not assume I was referring to licensed dolls. Ideal had licenses with several doll companies in Canada (Reliable), France, Germany, UK, and South America that I know of and I am sure many others. These dolls are very distinctive in their looks. IMO, the South American dolls are the closest to the molds used in the USA. There were compo, bisque, and even felt dolls licensed in other countries (there are many foreign clones as well). Interesting to note, many of the foreign licensed dolls have blue eyes. What I am referring to are unmarked, clone dolls being sold as authentic STs or the "early prototype". I would never buy a doll being sold as a "prototype" by a non-doll person/company without being able to inspect inside the head for the evidence. And everything you have mentioned is vital to always researching the doll you wish to purchase -- know what you're looking for so you can make sure you are buying an authentic doll. There are many ST collectors who specialize in foreign-licensed STs. Thank you for bringing up the Reliable and other foreign-licensed dolls -- ST was a global superstar and little girls worldwide loved her!
Thank you!@@CanterburyTrailsFarm
My dearest mom sadly passed away 26.05.22 I have slowly been going through all the goodies she left for me... dolls etc etc. Her pride and joy was her Shirley Temple doll. I am looking at parting with this beauty. It's super super old. The legs are not porcelain all the way up. The porcelain stops just above the knee and then is a material substance, as is the body. Any guidance would be great. I will do a short vid clip on my UA-cam channel with pics
I'm so sorry for your loss. It sounds like you might have a Shirley Temple baby. It's probably composition and cloth (composition is a wood pulp mixture). She will be marked Shirley Temple on the upper back and back of head. The original Shirley Temple dolls were composition, jointed at the shoulders, legs and head/neck. There were a lot of imposters -- which you can tell because the doll won't be marked Shirley Temple. Some of the imposters are worth as much as the authentic STs now as they are from the 1930s. Best of wishes dating your doll :)
@@CanterburyTrailsFarm Thanks a ton 🙏🏻👌🏼
What do you use to repair cracks/craizing?
I usually rub oil-based paint over the body, and then buff it off-- it fills in the cracks but is rubbed off of the surface. On extreme crazing, I have mixed elmer's glue with paint and buffed that in as well. Cathie Lee Doll Hospital also sells several crazing paint/filler mixtures that I use as well. Thank you for visiting with us today :)
I have just been given my Grandma s Shirley Temple collection. I am not sure I want to keep them , what is the best way to sell them? And best way to price them?
To price them go to Ebay and search under the Advanced settings -- search SOLD Shirley Temple dolls...the composition ones from the 30s are most valuable, followed by the hard plastic ones from the late 40s-50s. The 70s to present vinyl/rubber and porcelain dolls are not worth as much. Tagged dresses from the 30s can fetch as much if not more than actual dolls. I would sell through Ebay, Ruby Lane, or Etsy. I buy the majority of my dolls on Ebay. Best wishes with your sale! Thank you for viewing today.
Lol my daughter would love these lol
I love my Shirleys! lol. Thank you for watching :)
How do you know if the wig is original or not?
Years of study and comparison. Many times you'll find these dolls sold with no wig because little girls tended to cut the hair off of them. I'm not sure why that was so prevalent with these dolls. Maybe the curls became matted. Once you begin studying Shirley Temple composition dolls you'll be able to recognize replacement wigs, original wigs, and modern replacement wigs. I know that doesn't help much, but that's the only way to know for each doll unless she's mint. Once you know, you know, so the saying goes. Thank you for joining us today!
@@CanterburyTrailsFarm Thank you so much. This actually helped a lot and makes since. I actually started collecting and researching dolls in general this year! (Primarily Shirley Temple dolls) I'm going to try to learn all I can. It seems like a lost art and a exciting hobby to get into! I'm going to definitely keep watching thanks again!
@@americanpicker6493 There are a lot of great books out there that focus solely on Shirley Temple dolls from both the 30s and 50s-present. :)
Yes matted somewhat
Want value for 1930 Shirley temple doll 18 inch dimple I in cheek head ad arms legs move
Each doll is valued differently based on condition, original clothing or not, wig/wig condition, markings on head/upper back, etc. Thank you for watching today!