1982 Commonwealth Games Mens 1500m Semis and Final
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- 1982 Commonwealth Games Mens 1500m Semis and Final
Gold Steve Cram (ENG) 3:42.37
SIlver John Walker (NZL) 3:43:11
Bronze Mike Boit (KEN) 3:43.33
4th John Williamson Scotland 3:43.84 mins
5th Michael Hillardt Australia 3:44.03 mins
6th Colin Reitz England 3:44.35 mins
7 Michael Gilchrist New Zealand 3:44.50 mins
8 Anthony Rogers New Zealand 3:45.11 mins
9 Wilson Waigwa Kenya 3:46.18 mins
10 Patrick Scammell Australia 3:46.62 mins
Cram was an absolute machine.!!
I love this era of athletics.
Cram, Walker and Boit are legends.
Pity there is no Coe and Ovett in the field.
Pat Scammell was an accomplished runner, but his long legs too often got tangled with others, not always his fault.
A 51 second last lap by Cram, and what an amazing sprint at the end. It reminds me of Alberto Juantorena.
Even faster than 51. It was 50.75, as he was about 3 tenths of a second behind the leader at the bell. Fucking awesome wasn't he!! I believe he could have won the 1984 1500m if he would have been in his prime form. But that's life isn't it, often times injury/illness strikes just before you want to be in the best shape of your life. Cram had his year in the limelight where he was top dog globally, just a shame it was in 1983 a year before the olympics unfortunately. He was ultimately better than Coe and Ovett in the 1500m , the mile and 2000m, even 3000m, its just bad luck that things weren't aligned appropriately for him being able to win the championship that really mattered.
@@outsiders4951 Absolutely correct.
Sub 51 while almost being dragged down by serial pest scammell with 370 to go
@@outsiders4951 Cram was destroyed by Coe in the 1984 Olympic 1500 metre final. Both had had injuries prior to that year, with Coe's illness the more serious, but they were both neck and neck with 100 to go and Coe hit the burners and the race was over in seconds. Cram was also in the 1980 Olympic final and finished nowhere while Coe won gold again! Sometimes it's better to just face facts rather than seem bitter. 👍
Let's make that 50.8
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Kudos to Mike Boit. By this time he had been competing for over a decade and was 33. Also by this time he had earned two masters degrees from Stanford University. 4 years later he would earn a PhD from Oregon University
Very humble professor, was privileged to interact with him at Kenyatta university in 2009. I understand he's the most educated Olympic medalist in the world.
Top bloke
Walker let himself get boxed in twice in one race...what a dunderhead! CRAM ...most under rated runner of this blood doping era.
Do you have any proof that Cram or any other European runners were blood doping in this race? To the best of acknowledged views "of that time" it was National Doping programmes, especially from the Eastern Bloc and they used testosterone and anabolic steroids. Although there were exceptions the majority of EPO offences occurred within Cycling and Athletics was believed to be relatively clear of EPO until the 1990's when it was widespread and could be used without detection until around 2,000, but even then if you were clever you could take it before an event, and it would be undetectable on the day of the race! As an example there have been accusations made about EiG from different athletes regarding his massive sudden improvements!
I was a one miler and 1500 m runner when I was young. It was the rule that do not let anybody pass by you on your left side. I do not know what this great runner was thinking when he tried it.
Boit showed him the gap then when Walker tried to use it he closed it off. As it happens Cram was always going to win and Walker beat Boit but it was a tactic which could've upgraded Boit to silver.
walker was trapped/boxed from about 500m,there was just no way out so he took the chance inside.cost him the gold here
no, probably a closer Silver but Cram was better by this stage of their careers.Cram would win the sprint against Walker even if level at the straight
@@stevecrocker6904Cram never ran as many sub- miles as John Walker...who had a terrible check in home strait.
I think the people who slammed Ovett in the 800m in Moscow don't know much about the sport. Having watched the semi's and final here there was lot's of pushing and jostling and no one moaned, as far as I know, after the races. This is what happen's in races. Watch how Billy Mills was literally shoved and more by Clarke and Gamoudi in the last lap in the 10,000m in Tokyo 1964 and he still won.
All flying down the back straight on the last lap. What a great race.
I agree , walker was really up for it but made the wrong move, he was in his 1976 Olympics form
looks like walker ran the 1550 metres in that race
some top names in this (steve cram / john walker / mike boit), plus a few blasts from the past (graham williamson / john robson / pat scammell). and i wasn't sure of the final result either, so it was great to watch. best moment is when cram gets trodden on at the start of the last lap of the final... and almost stops to turn around and complain! an excellent commentary from the lead guy as well. but whoever the analyst is (herb elliott at a guess), please stop interrupting!
Also had Colin Reitz (steeplechase 1984 LA Oly)...... ran against him quite a few times..
walker was on his game in this race, closed in 51 getting tripped up.
W Lee he should have moved out with 250m left. I don’t think he would have beaten Cram anyways but still..
I think Walker would have beaten Cram if he had planned his finish better. Absolutely blew it.
Brett Wilkinson we will have to agree to disagree on that one haha
@@alirunsfast I think I am confident enough to say I would have bet 50 pounds ,had Walker taken the outside earlier , as his final sprint kick during a slow time was slightly faster than Cram's.It was silly of Walker to have taken the option of cutting through on inside lane. But I guess my friend we will never really know.Would have made for a blinder finish had they both been clear for that final sprint to the finish line.
@@brettwilkinson9529 YES,,, DEFINITELY!!!!!! WALKER WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH CLOSER TO CRAM AND PROBABLY MIGHT HAVE WON,,, ESPECIALLY AS HE HE RUN HIS FASTEST EVER MILE IN OSLO THAT YEAR 3:49,1!!!!!!!! AND A FANTASTIC TIME FOR 3000 METRES BEHIND DAVID MOOR CROFTS 7:32:7!!!!!!! AMAZING!!!!!!!! WALKER WAS FASTER THAN CRAM OVER THE MILE AT THIS STAGE!!!!!!!!!! LOOK HOW FAST HE WAS MOVING BEFORE HE STUPIDLY RAN INTO BOIT TRYING TO SQUEEZE ON THE INSIDE LANE,, WHAT A SHAME,,, WE WOULD HAVE WITNESSED A MIRACLE RUN HAD WALKER GOT THE INSIDE RUN PAST BOIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like they were trying to take Steve Cram out.Nasty tactics.
Where were Ovett n Coe ?
Se riusciva a passare all'interno vinceva Walker
Lots of heel clips on the last lap
Poor final lap tactics from Walker… I think Cram would have won anyway but he would have been much closer…
Walker trapped behind Boit would of got so close 2 Cram almost stopped 2 get out Scammell almost tripped Cram but did trip the great John Walker in the 1500m final 8 years later in Auckland 1990 Commonwealth Games his last big race could of got a medal but wouldn’t of beaten Elliot who was world class this day so underrated Mr Peter Elliot because of following the big 3 Ovett Coe & Cram
Sad tactics by John allowing himself to be blocked in, then assuming he could just barge his way up on the inside of Boit (who said, "no way buddy I'm hugging the inside"). He could of won this I think if ran differently.
Agreed
I don't think this is what you hope for in a race. Why not get rid of the first 1100 meters? Very bad. All those runners capable of 10 seconds faster but not wanting to push it. Walker might have had a chance to take it if he had gotten out at least 200 earlier. Not a great race.
Peak Cram
Don't worry about Pat Scammell, what about Mike Hillardt
Scammel was never in the hunt in a finish fight out whenever I watched him in a big race. Just not enough speed. Mike Hillard's stride looked like his nemesis to me -always ready to overstride when the pressure was on. He never "floated"
A 50.75 second last lap from Crammy there. Jesus christ, no wonder he was the one mile world record holder/british record holder and olympic 1500m silver medalist, its not a surprise with that kind of speed, even Mo farah couldn't match that speed, he did a 50.89 at the end of a very slow 5000m, but it was REALLY slow, like over 14 minutes, which for Farah is child's play. Both of them anyhow display the kind of speed necessary to mount the podium at the olympics.
Mo is over hyped. No conventional world records
Steve Cram and Muppet Salah had much different "diets". One of the greatest disgraces in athletics is that Steve Cram's record, first sub 3.30 1500 metres, was replaced by a 'junkie'. Even worse than 'Pilford' Christie winning in Barcelona. A lot of the reason I stopped following athletics. It was bad enough when you were left wondering about an athletes diet but those two were of the most prominent liars and cheats ever seen.
Cram should have run 3.27 that race
Cram
@@stanmonzon5788 yep.. 3.17 for Cram
@@mathematics5573 no I’m sorry but I don’t understand. 3:17? Come on now!!!
@@stanmonzon5788 Steve Cram should have run 3.17 for 1500m. just required harder trraining.
how? running away from the pack by himself? He got just under 3.30 later in his career .... but only just
John Walker would probably have come close to winning are actually won this race if he didn't get caught behind Boit and lost his stride. It would have been his last triumph because he really went down hill in many ways after this race.
John walker made a tactical mistake messed ihs race and mike boit by not going around cram instead of inside cost him gold
Walker always had dumb finishes in the 2nd half of his career. He should've got out of the crowd with 250m to go and avoided the traffic jam. He had the ability to run Cramm down.
no, by this stage of their careers Cram was in the ascendency. He had faster times than 30 year old Walker in 1982 in both 800 and 1500m
Mike Boit blocking Walker the entire race, John would've eaten Cram with a clear run
In the early 80s, Walker had no chance against any of the great Brits (Ovett, Coe, Cram). Those guys could outkick an aging Walker or beat him in a fast-pace race.
Walker would not have beaten Cram, and how was about blocking Walker? He had the lead and was running his race. It’s Walkers fault he got himself blocked.
no 30 year old Walker wouldn't have beaten the not-yet 22 year old Cram by 1982 - Cram had faster times in both the 800 and 1500m that season and thereafter
Dream on!
Not by then .........Walker was fantastic in 1976 though.
Walker blew this race. Should have won . Rediculous trying to squeeze through the inside
Kept pushing and blocking that black man in the finals. He gave up
@BETSY SINDANI
Wow, that’s racist of you to say... that “black man” is none other than Boit - maybe you should learn his name. The whole race was full of trips and bumps. Very racist to imply it was only against Boit!
@@TheSecondWitness: give the racism call a break ...please. "Woke" means judging everyone's motives ... "woke" is simply modern day puritanism
@Steve Crocker
HAHA you obviously missed that I was making fun of the original comment.