Hello, I bought a t3/t4 rebuild kit. But the shaft bearing that was in the kit was smaller than my original. Wouldn't fit entirely over the shaft. U have an idea on how to get the proper size bearing? Thanks
Piston rings is the correct term! The oil as well as providing lubrication also applies a pushing force on the shaft so there is no end play. So the shaft is also acting as a piston. (If you look at a cross section, the turbine end of the shaft resembles a hydraulic ram) There is a thrust bearing (the 270 degree bronze plate) on the opposite end to take up this force. Without the oil pressure pushing on the shaft, the thrust bearing wouldn't work. This is why they're called piston rings and not just an oil seal.
I think you did an excellant job of explaining each step and what to be caeful of and why. I think that anyone with some mechanical assembly exprience certainly having rebuilt a eng would be able to do this. I honestly feel that I could do this successfully. Lastly thanks for taking the time and sharing your expertis This is what I come UA-cam for not cat videos or to see one more fool do the harlem shake Honestly mad props dud.
Hey man what if I install the oil guide without no pins does that matter ? Cause I’m trying to take off the pins from the old turbo housing but they stuck
pretty sick. gonna rebuild mine tomorrrow and send my intake manifold to get port matched to my new 70mm throttle body. im hoping i get at least 8 to 12 hp across the whole powerband
The thing about the bigger journal bearing turbos is that each part..shaft,compressor and turbine are all "individually balanced" unlike the smaller turbos which are balanced after there assembled buy just grinding the turbine nut or fin. So you can put the turbine & compressor together anyway you'd like and it wouldn't matter.
Hey I have a T3/T4 Turbonetics turbo,how is the quality of that eBay rebuild kit? The original kit is $150. $37 for that kit u used is a steal,but again quality, durability? ??
i see your running a restrictor i thought you only use those on ball bearing turbos need to know lol whats the deal with that im installing 2 on my lsx info appreciated thanks.
@@tofuracer1299 mark the compressor and turbine wheels when disassembling to make sure they go back together exactly how it came apart. They are balanced from the factory. Funny how the most important thing to mark, he didn’t mark, but did all that other stuff
Thanks a lot for the vid. I have an 87 T03. It's a bit different but not much. I have a question. I followed along great, didn't have assembly lube though, just used oil in spots and it seems great. As soon as I put any tension on the compressor nut, the turbine doesn't spin. Well, does but it's pretty firm. Why is this? If I loosen that nut any more the compressor wheel can spin freely on the shaft with the exhaust not spinning.
It looks like the compressor housing can be easily rotated, I'm I right? Or does it need to stay the same place you marked it? Or is this just to make it line up correctly with your engine bay? Thanks!
Might sound funny. But did you lube the shaft before re-inserting it into the center "housing"? I did not really notice if you did or did not. At 8:55.
balanced from the factory correct.... Great video but I does require balancing. I was watching for that in the second part of this video......I would have @ least marked the internal wheels if possible to try to get it close to the original balanced assy. But again cool video!!
if your part number is 17201-30080, then i can order you a rebuild kit. would you rather buy a cartridge if i can get one of those. i just worry if your turbo is not rebuildable
thanks for the videos man, there are some guys out there who rape them trully, you rock!is there adifference if i use a 360 thust bearing as concerns the fixing?
On mine the shaft was scored enough that it would wipe the bearings out in a month so I bought the whole cartridge new for like 200 bucks it's cheaper than buying the individual parts.
I don't think you have your exhaust turbine ring in properly, make sure it's all the way in and can spin free even before you put the compressor side on.
hi, i would like to purchase this turbo repair kit since my t3/t4 turbo is leaking oil, i bought the car 2 weeks ago but i dont know which turbo i have on my car since is a ebay turbo and it doesnt have any brand at all, it only says: Brand: JDM Sport PartNO: T3/T4 SerialNo: TBO0903776 my question is: is this the turbo kit i need to repair this turbo ? i don't want to get the wrong one :/ all help would be appreciated and thanks in advance
Those things are not shields, they are thurst washers and the thing you called core is the thurst collar. You also need to mention that the turbo needs to be component balanced after a rebuild.
only thing is you didn't mark the position of your blades so when you put it together you don't know if you have it straight like you did for the housings, will be out of balance
I stated why I reused the bad turbine shaft in the video.."Cause I didn't care" If it was someone elses, obviously I would not of re-used it..I have another turbo that had perfect internals that I built the same way. This is the correct way to rebuild a T3/T4 turbo.
To the previous guy, yes some of the naming is wrong but he is correct with his dis assembly and re assembly, this is not dangerous and if you think you can post a better video please go right ahead
decent video, if the parts you got were balanced then good for you, just ignore the rest of these idiots who know nothing about turbos. Did this turbo end up lasting you?
You should use the upgraded 360 degree thrust bearing kit. It's much stronger than the 270 thrust bearing you used. pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111453427561
Rusty Shackleford. The oil as well as providing lubrication also applies a pushing force on the shaft so there is no end play. So the shaft is also acting as a piston. (If you look at a cross section, the turbine end of the shaft resembles a hydraulic ram) There is a thrust bearing (the 270 degree bronze plate) on the opposite end to take up this force. Without the oil pressure pushing on the shaft, the thrust bearing wouldn't work. This is why they're called piston rings and not just an oil seal.
Sigh. This video will cause loads of confusion. Naming is completely out, the way you describe how the oil is fed is ENTIRLY out. this video is dangerous.
No, it's not. That video is all kinds of wrong, too. No re-machining specs, the guy uses vice grips. You can't make up things and pretend that this is the right way to do things-you are leading people in the wrong direction. I rebuild and balance turbos for a living, and most of what you said on your videos was dead wrong. Take your video down because it is just you making up and disseminating nonsense.
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Hello, I bought a t3/t4 rebuild kit. But the shaft bearing that was in the kit was smaller than my original. Wouldn't fit entirely over the shaft. U have an idea on how to get the proper size bearing? Thanks
update? how did this turbo do after the rebuild?
Dude, thank you soo much for this video. After watching this i am confident i can do this rebuild myself. Keep up the great work with these DIY
"Remember to put that shield on BEFORE you put the shaft in there." Couldn't have said it better. ;)
Piston rings is the correct term!
The oil as well as providing lubrication also applies a pushing force on the shaft so there is no end play. So the shaft is also acting as a piston. (If you look at a cross section, the turbine end of the shaft resembles a hydraulic ram)
There is a thrust bearing (the 270 degree bronze plate) on the opposite end to take up this force.
Without the oil pressure pushing on the shaft, the thrust bearing wouldn't work.
This is why they're called piston rings and not just an oil seal.
Thanks for making these, really informative and interesting.
Really thank you so much. Unhided and clear explanation!!!
Great insight to how it all goes together. Thanks for sharing
I think you did an excellant job of explaining each step and what to be caeful of and why. I think that anyone with some mechanical assembly exprience certainly having rebuilt a eng would be able to do this. I honestly feel that I could do this successfully. Lastly thanks for taking the time and sharing your expertis This is what I come UA-cam for not cat videos or to see one more fool do the harlem shake
Honestly mad props dud.
Hey man what if I install the oil guide without no pins does that matter ? Cause I’m trying to take off the pins from the old turbo housing but they stuck
pretty sick. gonna rebuild mine tomorrrow and send my intake manifold to get port matched to my new 70mm throttle body. im hoping i get at least 8 to 12 hp across the whole powerband
I actually used this two part video for my rebuild. Yes it helped even though most of it was pretty self explanitory.
The thing about the bigger journal bearing turbos is that each part..shaft,compressor and turbine are all "individually balanced" unlike the smaller turbos which are balanced after there assembled buy just grinding the turbine nut or fin. So you can put the turbine & compressor together anyway you'd like and it wouldn't matter.
Cool video! Thanks a lot, was wondering what's inside the turbo and how to rebuild it. Now I know :)
Thanks a bunch for the video i really wanted to learn how to rebuild a turbo
Hey I have a T3/T4 Turbonetics turbo,how is the quality of that eBay rebuild kit? The original kit is $150. $37 for that kit u used is a steal,but again quality, durability? ??
i see your running a restrictor i thought you only use those on ball bearing turbos need to know lol whats the deal with that im installing 2 on my lsx info appreciated thanks.
Does it still run? Or how long did it last? Want to do this on a Toyota ct26 from a Toyota Land Cruiser 1hdt
Thanks for the video man. Do you think you could do one on a GT3071R im not sure if its journal bearing or ball bearing.
many thanks young man .. well done
That turbo is going to live a very short life being out of ballance
How do you balance it??
@@tofuracer1299 mark the compressor and turbine wheels when disassembling to make sure they go back together exactly how it came apart. They are balanced from the factory. Funny how the most important thing to mark, he didn’t mark, but did all that other stuff
nice write-up
thanks
Been looking for this thanks bro
Thanks a lot for the vid. I have an 87 T03. It's a bit different but not much. I have a question. I followed along great, didn't have assembly lube though, just used oil in spots and it seems great. As soon as I put any tension on the compressor nut, the turbine doesn't spin. Well, does but it's pretty firm. Why is this? If I loosen that nut any more the compressor wheel can spin freely on the shaft with the exhaust not spinning.
Nice work. Just what i was lookin for!
It looks like the compressor housing can be easily rotated, I'm I right? Or does it need to stay the same place you marked it? Or is this just to make it line up correctly with your engine bay?
Thanks!
nice vid,,, santa needs to bring you some circlip plyers nexy year cheers
@carblingautomotive I actually have a pair with about 3 different size adapters and there stil to big.The holes are needle small.
Buen tutorial, me a servido de gran ayuda. Saludos desde España
Nice write up. Invest in a couple snap on flank drive + open end wrenches and it will save you the work of grinding down the box wrench.
really useful video, thank :)
Well done. Nice and methodical.
dispensates is a new one to me. even underlined by squiggly red line on my screen when I type it...
How much do you charge to do the same for my turbo? I have the same issue and turbo.
good show nicework have u ever tried turnin a turbo into a supercharger?
What kind of assembly lube works best
Also yeah man this is actually helpful thanks
very informative thanks!
Might sound funny. But did you lube the shaft before re-inserting it into the center "housing"? I did not really notice if you did or did not. At 8:55.
He sounds like toby McGuire off the original spiderman movies.
so what rebuild kit I get my turbo is a precision just got ti yesterday and its a 60-1 60 trim is my turbo a t3/t4 turbo?
Thanks for posting!!! very enlighting
Very detailed video, just wish the lighting was a little better
Great instructional video!!!
should rtv be put on that shield?
Great video thanks
where could I find the turbine shaft for sale?
balanced from the factory correct.... Great video but I does require balancing. I was watching for that in the second part of this video......I would have @ least marked the internal wheels if possible to try to get it close to the original balanced assy. But again cool video!!
Awesome video
good job where can I find rebuild kit for Toyota 2kd 2.5 engine turbo
replay plz
ct12 or ct26? The ct26 has a 5.7mm shaft bore and a 5.1mm shaft bore version. Then the ct26 is a 6.5mm shaft bore
I don't know ct12 or ct26?
Can you explain
I need turbo rebuild kit for toyota 2kd _ftv engine 2500cc
if your part number is 17201-30080, then i can order you a rebuild kit. would you rather buy a cartridge if i can get one of those. i just worry if your turbo is not rebuildable
Thanks for replay
First I need to check part number
Nice job!
thanks for the videos man, there are some guys out there who rape them trully, you rock!is there adifference if i use a 360 thust bearing as concerns the fixing?
On mine the shaft was scored enough that it would wipe the bearings out in a month so I bought the whole cartridge new for like 200 bucks it's cheaper than buying the individual parts.
Think u got it wrong m8 that was oil return u said it goes up
The open part of the thrust washer is the return
Anyway very helpfull vid bud
Much obliged
I don't think you have your exhaust turbine ring in properly, make sure it's all the way in and can spin free even before you put the compressor side on.
hi, i would like to purchase this turbo repair kit since my t3/t4 turbo is leaking oil, i bought the car 2 weeks ago but i dont know which turbo i have on my car since is a ebay turbo and it doesnt have any brand at all, it only says:
Brand: JDM Sport
PartNO: T3/T4
SerialNo: TBO0903776
my question is: is this the turbo kit i need to repair this turbo ? i don't want to get the wrong one :/
all help would be appreciated and thanks in advance
The new piston ring on the shaft for my turbo doesnt move freely..
why is this?
ive tried everything to make it move freely
installing the shaft in with no oil .. that’s genius
What you call shield is a thrust bearing.
Perfect .!
Those things are not shields, they are thurst washers and the thing you called core is the thurst collar.
You also need to mention that the turbo needs to be component balanced after a rebuild.
Doesn't need to be balanced when just replacing bearings and seals. However he forgot to mark the turbine and compressor wheels relative to eachother.
only thing is you didn't mark the position of your blades so when you put it together you don't know if you have it straight like you did for the housings, will be out of balance
I stated why I reused the bad turbine shaft in the video.."Cause I didn't care" If it was someone elses, obviously I would not of re-used it..I have another turbo that had perfect internals that I built the same way. This is the correct way to rebuild a T3/T4 turbo.
your turbo is now not in balance
eiky k you are right, hi didin`t mark the position of turbine axle and kompressor wheel right?.. sorry my eng
To the previous guy, yes some of the naming is wrong but he is correct with his dis assembly and re assembly, this is not dangerous and if you think you can post a better video please go right ahead
It’s about posting Correct videos not Better. Asshole
its balanced from the factory
cool :)
decent video, if the parts you got were balanced then good for you, just ignore the rest of these idiots who know nothing about turbos. Did this turbo end up lasting you?
I heard that on the first run it exploded!!
Anyone no how to balance the turbo by hand
damn that thing is way bigger than mine
Balance balance balance.
You should use the upgraded 360 degree thrust bearing kit. It's much stronger than the 270 thrust bearing you used.
pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111453427561
how does the thrust collar fit into the thrust bearing with the 360 degree bearing?
marc gregory the thrust collar is too separate pieces on a 360. the flat end of the collar sits under the thrust bearing.
awesome, thanks!
piston ring...... there's no goddamn pistons there. shaft ring is acceptable
They actually are called piston rings for the turbochargers
Rusty Shackleford. The oil as well as providing lubrication also applies a pushing force on the shaft so there is no end play. So the shaft is also acting as a piston. (If you look at a cross section, the turbine end of the shaft resembles a hydraulic ram)
There is a thrust bearing (the 270 degree bronze plate) on the opposite end to take up this force.
Without the oil pressure pushing on the shaft, the thrust bearing wouldn't work.
This is why they're called piston rings and not just an oil seal.
Looks like you forgot the bearing on the turbine side?
all t3/t4 kits will be the same...
basically
dirty hands + dirty table = worn bearings
I think you mean piston ring, not piston
You'll be needing a new turbo pretty soon cuz this video says nothing about balancing.
+ no lube on shaft OR seal rings = poor assembly procedure
eddy you need more than torque specs-you need a guide. go to amazon and search for my name Brian Smothers
Sigh. This video will cause loads of confusion. Naming is completely out, the way you describe how the oil is fed is ENTIRLY out. this video is dangerous.
No, it's not. That video is all kinds of wrong, too. No re-machining specs, the guy uses vice grips. You can't make up things and pretend that this is the right way to do things-you are leading people in the wrong direction. I rebuild and balance turbos for a living, and most of what you said on your videos was dead wrong. Take your video down because it is just you making up and disseminating nonsense.
wrong. go to turborepair "dotnet and click 'balancing' WRONG.