3 reasons NOT to buy a Shelby Mustang GT350
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2021
- Going over 3 reasons NOT to buy a Mustang Shelby GT350
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All my friends and coworkers want to know the 1/4 mile times...lol. They don't understand that this car was built to turn a corner. I have no road courses within 5 hours of me, so I haven't made a track day, but I will get down to Miller in Utah eventually.
All of the points in this video are valid. I have been lucky on the oil consumption, my oil air separators are barely wet after 1k miles I've driven my car so far. First two parts I purchased when I bought it were for both sides.
Great video. These cars are amazing, but definitely not for most people. There is a lot to care for on these and much more expensive to maintain than a GT.
You get it! Not saying it’s a slow car but that’s not its intent. Handling is. And it’s a fine car. Still cheaper than maintaining certain German cars. It’s just as fun as a lot of cars out there.
I'm just gonna say, I've never lost to a GT, a Scat, an SS, and I waxed an R8 from a 30 roll, and my buddies all have Hellcats and I throw down with them, I don't win against the Hellcats, but boy are they a close race, 2017 Gt350 Track Pack, Tech pack stock with an OTS SCT tune
You still have it?
Nice vid bro. Anyone considering buying this car needs to know what they’re getting themselves into. Like you said Its not a 0-60 car. It’s for people who want a high revving engine, great handling, and great styling. Best 60k I ever spent.
Thank you.
Props to you.
As a Scat Pack Charger owner I can say that thing is an eargasm for sound. Love the fact that it's a manual only as well. I wish my car was available in a manual.
I would have a Charger now if they made them in manual.
I have a 19 Daytona 392 and I’m debating on swapping for a gt350, a wide body scat or just keeping mine and dropping a supercharger on it and building it after that over time! Any thoughts?!
@@bobsaget3044
If you're gonna FI yours, build the motor completely.
@@SLO_5oh thanks man I ended up selling and going with something turbo already but maybe a SC HC or GT350 in the future!
Thanks for your time and great video. The 2020’s had a timing chain tensioner recall on a few of the earlier build dates. That caused engines to grenade, 19’s were not effected. Also note; the Gen1’s oil consumption problems were a small percentage, and most of those problems were caused by improper break-n and not letting the engine come up to temp before reviewing past 2k.
The car dose hold its own from 30mp rolls and up. However, wouldn’t take much to beat this car from a dig.
Always do the catch cans, drivers side hasn’t had a drop, check passenger side every fill up.
👍 I hear ya about prices going up! Just like you, I was lucky to get one when I did! The TSB was for certain engines that look like they may be related to the same builder. I didn’t get a recall, however. I did do the recommended inspection of the Secondary Timing Chain Tensioners.
I installed the Ford Performance Oil Separators (both sides) I liked the OEM look better then the less expensive options. My opinion is they should have come from the factory with them, but it is what it is!
As always, thanks for sharing. And h3ll yeah! Do some Launch Control Videos! 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
I'll hop to it. Thanks a lot. Be safe
Great honest review. Check you oil often! Beautiful car and I hope you don’t have any issues!!
Thanks a lot. I appreciate it
thanks for the technical and informed info . this is stuff we never were aware of .
Thank you very much. Enjoy you day!
When you’re launching it you can’t have tc on. The second your tires spin your tc kills your power to keep grip.
I got a laugh from you and your honesty made me subscribe.
Keep them coming
I appreciate that. Thanks
Good video bro specially for those that don’t know what they are getting themselves into.
It’s a N/A engine can’t expect that extra supercharger power.
Keep checking your engine oil brother and also oil pressure.
Check how much oil you get back on each oil change and oil your filter for metal shavings.
Keep making more videos !
Much appreciated! That's exactly why I made the video. I'll keep an eye on the oil. Thanks!
@@QueTheChaotic there is many many owners with no issues and zero problems at this point with 50k plus miles.
Enjoy the car ! Every car has an issue somewhere some how .
@@QueTheChaotic use amsoil,trust me,stuff is legit as hell.the air force uses it exclusively.no worries about oil evaporation or nut-tin.
With launch control don't just drop the clutch. Hold the park brake on slowly release the clutch until you feel it touch the flywheel then drop the park brake at the same time as the clutch. If you drop the clutch from the top it'll bounce off the flywheel and cause more damage. Traction control needs to be off and adjust the launch revs until you get minimal wheel slip. 👌
Bro 🫡 much respect. 😎. Save some pussy for the rest of us. 🫡
'14 Gt 500 here....4.10 gears will fix your low end torque delivery.
The GT350 is not supposed to be a fast car. It’s mean to be enjoyable track car with plenty of revs to carry you in and out the corners. Think about it as big momentum car for the track.
@@AntilleanConfederation true, wasn't meant for the quarter-mile, but it still meant to go fast and handle corners, 4.10s will give you more bottom end because road coursing a car you don't see top end like you do in the quarter mile. Seems to me the gt350 was built for high reving road courses and the gt500 was built for top end thats why I had 331 gears...but I changed mine out for 373s. My past stangs I went all 410s for that down low fun. All a matter of what you want to do.
@@Gthere-cs3ow that is all sorts of wrong. In a road course you want to be doing the least amount of shifting and working that rev range to stay on power . Like I said think about using momentum and rpm as way to get thru each section of the track the fastest way. Downshift before the corner, steering and on power before you exit the corner. A car like the gt350 allows you to do that in most track in either second and third gear most of the time or 3 and fourth if it’s a high speed course. I understand it won’t be for everyone. I loved my GT350. But I didn’t love it enough to put up with the poor craftsmanship and inferior quality. In a ideal world I would like a GT350 with less weight, less panel gap and the reliability of Honda or Toyota, but that car isn’t made and probably won’t.
Love the vid bro I’m getting one soon and I’ll look into how to awaken it besides e85 for some drag runs
Great car and an honest video. Still very serious about getting a used one. Thank you.
cityofcars.com has one for sale :-)
My 2017 was taken care of in 10 days from oil consumption. Dealer i dealt with did a great job. 10 days start to finish. and the gen 2 has been excellent thus far. still my favorite new mustang made. best looking IMO as well.
I agree with you. Glad they took care of you quickly.
Amsoil bro,no worries after that.every ten thousand,that's real oil .
Respect your opinion but here is mine:
*I did not buy my ‘19 R to do straight line racing or to challenge others on the road. I bought it to have fun with it, especially in the canyons.
*The oil consumption? Yea it exists. It’s a high performance vehicle. Spirited driving will always consume more. For this reason, I change my oil every 3k miles. No exceptions.
*Lastly, the value of the car is the legacy of the Shelby name and history. This is fine American engineering and the value will always be there.
Much respect to your opinion as well. Most people who don't know what it is always wanna drag race. That's not what this car is about. I' take a page out of your book and change the oil more frequently. Do you do yours at the dealership?
Totally agree with logic on buying to
have fun and enjoy. Legacy and quality ride.
@@QueTheChaotic yes I do mine at the dealership because it’s still under warranty. I want to make sure everything gets documented. Besides, it’s not my daily driver, otherwise, it would get expensive quick.
Amsoil my dude,you should get that.
Thanks for the information!
I love your car. I wanted an R only because of the Carbon wheel package. Less rotational mass and the wing of course but I saw a 350 today. Dark blue DONT know the colors but that thing look sick. Keep it man. Just stay on top of maintenance and always let it warm up before driving. Stay cool bro
Thanks a lot.I love the wheels and wing on the R. Ford has like 50 shades of blue lol
I have to say you should be happy the price is going up! It’s now a collector’s item. I own a 2019 I bought brand new and now still only has 2150 miles on it. Hasn’t used a drop of oil or had a single issue with it. This car is certainly not for everyone but it is one of the best drivers cars ever made. Not saying anything is wrong with your opinion but a lot of times these cars exceed the actual experience of the drivers.
I love the launch control bro keep it up
The 2019+ models have the updated VooDoo motor; swapping the block for the GT500 block and such, to cool the engine. Haven't burned a drop of oil in 24k miles, even after tracking it several times 👍. Love this car
Unfortunately my 2019 fell victim to oil burning
You seem down to earth! Good video
Thanks a lot
yo i have a 2007 mustang v6 and im wondering can i exchange my grill with a gt grill because it has the fog lights so im confused on that
Check out americanmuscle.com They have a TON of mods for that generation
My understanding for launch control is you're supposed to leave traction control on, so the TC system can manage keeping traction.
Im gonna try it. Thanks!
I have a 2018 I bought in 2019 with 3k miles now it’s got almost 30k miles ….. zero problems, check your oil constantly bruh and keep buying extended warranties if yours runs out.
Thanks for the info brother I could have sworn before Covid I saw them at 45k ish I’m glad I stumbled across this I currently have a bmw and a Tesla I’m looking for my next car and I went back today to see these prices glad I found this video with all the comments on the prices I thought they would have went down by now but 60k now for a 30k 10 speed to gap it ahh nah man
Thanks for watching. The crazy thing is how cheap they were and how expensive they still are.
Nice vid and info, thanks!
You're welcome
Great video. You deserve more subscribers. 💪🏼
I appreciate that!
Great video bro! Im always looking for an opinion on these GT350's because I want one, but man the market..... Way to expensive for me now.
Thanks a lot. This market is insane.
Changed the motor oil on my '19 at 1000 miles after break in. Changed over to Amsoil 5W-50 Signature Series. I changed my oil one more time since then, as I change it yearly. After all the Ford motor crap oil was all out of the system, I do not have an oil consumption issue at all. Try swapping the oil if you are still using motorcraft. Great truthful video though.
Thank you. I keep hearing that's the way to go with these engines,
@@QueTheChaotic do it. I've become a believer since then and have switched all my autos and small engines over to Amsoil. I have a John Deere snow blower from 1986 that starts on one pull and runs like new since flushing it and putting Amsoil 10W-40 small engine oil in it. I recently ran my one Toyota 15k mile oil change interval with 5W-30 signature series and it didn't use a drop of oil and the oil was still transparent at 15k miles. It's definitely good stuff.
I’ve used amsoil since day 1 and I’ve never had issues on my 18 with nearly 30k miles
I know the manual feels slow but it’s fun to drive but I know what you mean the torque isn’t there I don’t like that but it shines top end the normal Gt
Funny enough I bought my 17 GT350 back in 2018 because I was so pissed with my 14 Challenger. I know she's not the fastest off the line but oooooweeeeeee when we get up there in RPMs she flies. Part of me wants to sell her, 12k miles on the clock easily worth what I paid for it back in 18. Still I love this car so much.
I say keep it
Or trade it in for 2020gt500
I wonder if 4.10 gears/rear would help it get out of the hole better.. I am assuming it has 373's at stock?? Let Me know if someone know's what rear it comes with???
I can’t recall. A more aggressive gear ration would help.
Looking at 2016-2017 lightly thrashed with 11k-22k miles on them for approximately $54k-$58k any thoughts or just keep my 19 392 Daytona and supercharge it?!
What do you like most in a car? I would prefer to get a GT350 thats still under warranty. They're not too far out of your budget
Do you think a supercharger or non-sequential twins (one for lowend and the other for mid) would help with the torque and launch?
Absolutely.
just got my 2022 2ss 10speed a few days ago in love with it
Agree the value is not what it was but the entire used car market has gone nuts. I am a Mustang guy but decided to get a C7 Corvette right when COVID hit and got a great deal compared to what they are going for now. Still would like to get a GT 350 as I miss having a car with a manual and rowing the gears.
I've been looking at the C7 as well. They really shot up in price.
GT350 is one of my favorite cars🔥
It's a high revving 8000+ flat plane crank engine. It's a track car and most drivers are afraid to hit 8000+ RPMs to get the full power from the car. It sounds like you should shift around 6500 RPMs leaving almost 2000 RPMs of horsepower on the table. Maybe add 4:10 gears for Low end power. I'm aware of oil consumption, but never heard of engine fires. I have been looking to pick up a used GT350, but the pricing is crazy high on low mileage well maintained cars. Don't complain. Prices going up means more value to you. It may not be a good deal for the buyer, but a great deal for an owner.
Agreed
no need for driver side catch can. I breather is before the throttle plate so not much vapor goes through that side. Mostly just to equalize internal pressures. Passenger side is under vacuum.
Great info!
How to do man. This is Ted from Texas. I did own a 2013 Boss Mustang. Needless to say I needed a new roof and windows so I had to sell it. But I did pick up a vintage Fox body Mustang. 1984 Ford GT350. It's on the road but it needs a lot of work. That's what you get when you buy a whole car. Be safe and be careful and enjoy the car.
Thanks! Will do. Enjoy your stable as well
Sounds like you need a whipple charger, gives you a bunch of more low end torque plus the extra hp
Then get lapped at the track when you heat soak.
@@Juan-zk3dlwtf is gapping a Whipple supercharged gt350 on the track that isn't 30-40k more?
Pretty good video, with valuable insight and experience. The GT350 is on my radar (the GT500 is NOT) and I also am considering a Mach I. I'm really not too concerned about engine reliability: Ford has been good to me over the years. I bought a Cobra "Terminator" in 2003, when people had barely heard of them, and I bought my 2012 GT500 from the factory in July 2011. Both of those cars were extremely reliable. I bought a 2002 BMW M Roadster (a car most people STILL haven't heard of: it was essentially the M3 engine in a roadster chassis) and it blew up on me. Fortunately, it was covered by an extended warrantee I had bought. The company only asked for my oil change records. They had to order the replacement engine from Munich! I'd rather do a sports car from Ford, thanks! Yeah, OK. You "hear stories." How many "stories" are true? Do you tell a story if it's good, reliable, nothing-to-see-here . . . or if it's a train wreck?
If reliability doesn't concern you then I would highly recommend it. It's a great car. You just have to check on the oil. I saw a handful of UA-cams that I subscribed to low their engines. It doesn get a lot of complaints on my videos from owners as well. It could be very well overblown. I just want my audience to be aware. I like the Mach 1 as well. If it is more of a daily you seek, I would go that route.
were you at utica road and moravian this morning? I rarely see GT350s and i saw one this morning same color as yours
Wasn't me. My car was stuck in the garage today lol
Would to see you take it to a track one day. Something about a Mustang that is special. I love my Mustang. Your GT350 is awesome.
Thanks a lot. That’ll actually be my next video if it doesn’t rain. I’m scheduled to go on Tuesday
Bro I have to strongly disagree. All I can say is I’m Stock on Factory settings. I roll race and 40-50 roll. FBO Mustangs, FBO Camaro SS, and Scatpack’s don’t even come close.
Only Hellcats and Boosted BMWs give me problems. Our car does like Top end💯
Roll racing is a different story. That’s where the HP comes into play. You gave me an idea. Imma hit up my friend with a FBO Camaro SS☺️
@@QueTheChaotic I can send you video of what I’ve done to the competition. I am a A-10 killer, have. It been beaten by any of these cars. Vettes are only problems
This car is perfect for e85
Honest review, thank you
Launch at 6000rpm it works better! Question do you know anyone That has set the gt350 up for drag racing? So far went 11.48at 123. On the stock tune from the factory with a1.85 60ft just recently installed a clutch tamer have not tested yet but soon. I'll be working on my 60 ft 1.5 60ft and I should be scratching the 10.99 zone on the stock tune . Great content.
I set it for 6000 today. I didn't test it though. Don't know anyone else with a GT350 personally. Thanks!
Nice video. I got a GT350 it's in my channel and I agree with the torque and 0-60. I also don't like the launch control haha
Awesome video, I think your car will eventually become a collectors item but you're right it's not for everyone, I would only buy a Shelby GT350 if I was already a millionaire and I had other cars that are faster in a drag race.
One day it’ll be my slow car ☺️
@@QueTheChaotic Lol facts!
Well, that didn't take long. I bet your experience would have been different if you didn't come from an SS 1LE beforehand. The LT1 low speed tq and Alpha chassis are hard to beat. Good luck with your next purchase. Maybe ZL1 or ZLE?
Those are on my radar
I changed my rear end gear ratio to 3,85 And it Made more torque than the original gears,On my 2016 GT 500..
Cj intake manifold, headers and e85 will get you right with if not beating stock hellcats. On motor..... the tire on this car wouldn't like torque down low. The driver mod will fix those auto gts. I have cat delete and e85 and I'm slightly pulling a fbo mild cam ss
Wow that's crazy..where I live if your racing it's from stop light to stop light..not Alot of roads to just wind it out.. so you need that 0 to 60 power
Fact is the used car market is totally upside down now due to the microchip shortage. Dealers are paying a premium for a good used car b/c they must keep flipping cars to stay in business. This will NOT change for a minimum of 2 years b/c even once they get chips going the backlog will keep things behind for a long while. If you have a used car you want to get rid of now is the time. But you also might pay for more than it is worth to get a different or newer car.
I work at a delaership, can confirm this is accurate
Yup. Sold my Ecoboost for more than what they were asking when I bought it. I had to eat some of the taxes but if I didn't live in a high tax state, I'd have probably broke 100% even. I ended up with quite a bit of equity in the end. Now I'm just gonna find a cheapish New Edge till the market rights itself. I agree if you're upside down in a loan or you been himmin and hawing, now's the time.
Thank you!!! 👍
I liked this video already but didn’t push that like button until I seen that like prop 👍🏻
My investment is paying off lol. Thanks a lot
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My guy!
Where did you buy your red R grill/deck lid badges?
They’re actually orange. A local wrap shop did it. A site called Bemaro has some
I'm not aware of "many" engine problems, but I have heard of the ones you mentioned. My 2019 seems to be fine, but you're right, I'll check the tensioner on the secondary timing chain just to be sure...can check with a small mirror thru the oil filler access. As far as a reason "not" to buy a GT350, the only reason I would say NOT to buy a GT350 is if you aren't prepared to manually shift gears for every single gear change to drive the car. Automatic drivers aren't used to manual transmission cars and the GT350 is a "driver's car," which means it's meant for people that LOVE to manually shift gears ALL the time with BOTH hands on the wheel (sticky Michelin Sport Cub 2 tires love to track the cracks/imperfections in the blacktop). If you're a 1-handed driver (likes to hold his hot cafe' latte in the other hand while driving), then the GT350 is NOT for you.
These cars love to tramlline. It makes driving in construction zones a scary experience. Still a blast to drive
Beautiful car. I have a 2021 Mustang GT Premium. I had mine tuned at Palm Beach Turning
Nice!
GT350 is a sweet track car - not for drag racing, it's for the track. Just get the passenger side oil catch system. These cars are sweet but you kinda gotta be into track driving or at minimum street driving for corners. This is NOT a muscle car.
It's still the coolest mustang IMO.
I agree with everything you said. I knew exactly what I was getting into. Non car enthusiasts don't get it
OK. So it's doesn't kick you in the back when you launch but, it'll be a lot of fun to drive imo. Just enjoy, and don't stress the little things.
Man as a owner of a 2011 GMC Sierra with a 4.8 and long tube headers, I would love to own any car wit a v8 even if it's a 3v or something not to powerful it would be a hell of a lot quick then my truck 😂😂
My 2017 Gt350 was an oil consumption problem for me! I traded it in after putting 40,000 miles and adding a quart every 500 to 700 miles between oil changes 😮. It really frustrates me because Ford knew this engine had quality issues! Ford checked it out a told me that was normal 😮 which was bull crap! After owning a total of 8 mustangs ( Mighty 04 Cobra, 2012 Boss 302) just to name a few I realized the Gt 350 is not meant to be a low torque mustang. I would have kept it if I didn’t have high oil consumption but I just didn’t trust it’s reliability. Great sounding and the best looking stang I have ever owned . Subscribed
Really helpful video
Thanks a lot!
Got my 03 cobra totaled by a 19 yesr old texting on the 17th so looking for a replacement. Guess a gt350 isn't it thank you sir
That's unfortunate. Hopefully you're good. Any other replacements in mind?
I’ve put 12k miles on my 2018 GT350 since I got it in February. Front tires inside edges wore out while rest of tire was fine. Tire shop said alignment was mostly in spec. Is this normal? Is the factory alignment spec pretty aggressive to cause this? I’ve been road-tripping mine so a lot of 6th gear cruising in a straight line and only 3 track days.
I can say for sure but I hear the camber is a bit aggressive since its a track car, causing the tires to wear out on the edges
I have a 17. Same thing aggressive camber on the front.
Good video. I am considering buying one.
Thanks a lot. I have no regrets
Love the honesty ,,most are homers on whatever they rockin .
Much respect !
Great vid !
Keep doin you !
I greatly appreciate that
Bro I almost forgot to gave a like but that big thump up tho
Lol good look!
I love these but if you’re not happy with it, it’s a great time to sell it. You’d actually walk away with money in your pocket. Can’t argue with that.
3:15 had me dying man lmfao
LOL!
3:40 I have never used launch control either.. I have a 17 GT Performance pack with very low miles still. I get it though the GT350 is Not a quarter mile car at all.. That car is set up way different from GT's and the GT500.. It's a track car and not meant for low end torque at all.. But with some boost and a Lund tune that car can be made to run Quarter Miles.. But when stock they take to 5000 RPM before they get to their max torque. The car is a bit of a catch 22...
When you launch don’t dump the clutch, gotta feather it
Gotcha. I haven't tried since that day. Great to know
I was ready to buy one until I heard about the problems so I decided to buy a mint low mileage Boss 302 2013 instead
Love that 302. What color? Does that one have the side exhaust too?
@@QueTheChaotic Performance white. They all come with the side exhausts. It's standard. I'm totally in love with this beast. It's the perfect blend of modern and old school.
I want to see that launch control video! I'll even help shoot it!
Nice! I'll let you know. You see how bad I am at it lol
@@QueTheChaotic what are you talking about?? Your growing subscriber base would suggest otherwise my dude
@@QueTheChaotic did you have advanced traction control off before you launched?
It’s a beast if you have a supercharger though
Its like a 911 Porsche, its not at home at lower rpm. Its canyon roads, thats were you see hell cats, 392 and others in the rear veiw mirror... awsome car, oil consumption worries me.....only hold back, not into carrying oil quarts for road trips
That car holds its value it’s worth the money see that car in a few years they will. Be worth slot of money
Here are few more reasons not to buy GT350: 1) You don't want to be the cool kid in the neighborhood. 2) You don't want to own the last of manual Shelby and the only Shelby with flat plane crank. 3) You don't want a car that actually appreciates in value over time.
Who'd want any of that ;-)
yes more videos
You missing the point of the GT350. The GT350 gives you a usable rev range in most tracks so you don’t have to continuously change gears. It can do 3rd and 4th on most tracks. Also the mustang GT 5.0 makes more low end torque. 425 compared to 400 on the 5.2 voodoo.
The Voodoo makes 429 lb ft. The torque is delivered sooner in the 5.0
It's an awesome car for sure but i dont track or street race and having to make it scream high up in the revs all the time to see the benefits of the engine, not so obvious in the streets. It's not a GT350 but for what i do, im very happy with my 23 Mach 1 manual with handling pack.
That’s a great choice. If I had to buy one today, the Mach 1 would be it.
It’s a track car . That’s were you keep the rev range up
It was a blast on the track. I was in second gear 95% of the track
It’s a road race car….it can hold with Ms without ease…..if you want a stop light drag car it’s not for you ….you only have engine issues if you don’t know how to maintain and fix your own car, I haven’t had a engine issue
I think I’ll get me a Hellcat Red eye. Thanks bro.
You’re welcome. That’s a helluva car.
This was my dream car, but afrer watching your vid i'm having second thoughts...
Is your roof painted or wrapped?
It’s painted from the factory
Damn they had this 17 gt350 i was thinking about getting
I waited way too long to get one, these prices are wayyyy too crazy.
Can we just talk about that sound tho...
I'd take a GT350 over any other pony car, full stop. If someone wants to see what it can do, just lead them out to a twisty road in their land barge and leave them for gone.
I own the SS Camaro and had a chance to drive one of these. Night and Day difference. The GT350 is a cool car I did like it but its definitely meant for the track. The camaro has that low end torque that makes it a lot of fun on the street, this car is not. It sounds awesome but to utilize its power band after 4,500 rpm is tough to do on the street. Your gonna get smoked at traffic lights so if your looking for a street fighter this ain't it. If your looking for a track car then look no further.
buen video colega
Beautiful car.
LMFAO at the launch controls. I think it’s just these Michigan roads.
We'll go with that lol
Shocked that it fell on its face at low R's.