Gordon Ryan vs Josh Saunders | WNO 24: Gordon Ryan vs Josh Saunders
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Flo's recent policy of releasing these matches for free after they happen while there is still a lot of interest is an amazing decision.
After they see how much traffic CJI is going to make for free they will follow pretty quickly, as they should if they want to grow the sport
The first thing flow has done right
really... ya thats awsome ..
i mean they have no choice other than to release it now
if you think people are gonna be searching "gordon ryan vs josh saunders" in 2027 ur trippin
AND without a spoiler in the title! Good work Flo.
i really like how he doesnt rip submissions. he was looking at josh out the corner of his eye slowly putting more pressure on the heel hook. i love it
Yeah, people who rip submissions are either those who’re quite poor human beings and/or who’re so insecure with their Jiu Jitsu, Gordon Ryan so confident with his technical ability he’s fine for them to try and escape
When you're that good you have completed control. Great to see
I came to the comments to say exactly this. Pro move. Take care of your partners and opponents.
You’re supposed to roll that way. It’s not a fight to the death it’s a competition.
@@JamesBrown- his brother likes to rip sometimes lol
Notice how he GENTLY applied the lock instead of using a lot of force and trying to hurt the guy. A true martial artist (Like his teacher 27X Grand Master Renatch)
Oss Renatch
Henatch made an exception for gordon hyan and opened the book of forbidden techniques and showed him n danaher the leg lock game
You can hate or love him but you can't deny Gordon is undoubtedly the best and it's not even close.
Idk man Rod definitely snapped his ankle
@@Timewarpradio but couldnt finish pj barch at 170 pounds lol
@@Timewarpradio what's a snaped ankle if he's undefeated for 63 matches or so and won nearly 90% by sub!
@@Timewarpradio in OT when Gordon didn't have to care
Nope it's me I'm better.
love the controlled application of the heel hook respect to gordon.
Such a good human being. Most people wouldn't care about hurting their opponent.
Yeah Josh should have tapped earlier. His knee is going to be hurt for a while after that.
Such a good human being hes been calling for a Civil War in the Usa
Damn this shows the level of Gordon, dude looks like he’s going 40% against EVERYONE.
He probably is going around 40-50%, until it’s time to hammer it up to 100%
I try to remember that in my rolls, but that strategy is usually out the window in the first 45 seconds😂
I think you can only afford doing that if you're really technical in various positions. If you go with the flow at 40% and end up in a position you're unfamiliar/uncomfortable with, you perhaps will need to use just as much strength to get out of it as you would have used going at 80-100% beforehands
Lets not forgett Josh Saunders started BJJ-No-Gi only ~ 4 years ago . His biggest achievement so far was winning ADCC Trials in Sidney . Yeha he is good and yes he has potential but Gordon Ryan is on a whole other level being at the top of the sport for longer than Sauners has even been doing Jiu JItsu
@@TopFearless That's it. I can't afford to go 40% or I will end up in real bad positions if I'm against someone of my level or above. But, this is a good training strategy against someone a little less skillful. You will end up eventually in bad places, but in a way you can manage to scape.
@TopFearless You're right, but you also have to be very strong. Or have enough strength in reserve to negate the opponent's. You can be the most technical person out there, but if you fight someone with a significant strength advantage who knows just enough to not get immediately submitted, you're in trouble. Gordon is super technical but he definitely has the strength in reserve to match all his opponents so far.
"god dammit now i have to do a real match" is the most gordon ryan compliment ive ever head
the way gordon was looking for josh’s reaction while putting pressure on the submission it’s so impressive! he cared about not injuring him. he could have easily went 110% mode and brake him in a sec! what a guy! 👑
Josh looks relaxed and so does Gordon, I was really excited about this match. But these athletes perform at a high level so it’s nice to see what techniques they used here.
I think Josh looked relaxed because he was not in a position to be explosive for much of the match. Being on bottom, he was more or less framing for his life and Gordon was doing the wet-blanket waiting for openings. Even at the end, Josh's legs were expertly tied up to limit escapes.
@@jessehamilton180 he didn't even real hard to get on top except for bench pressing gordon off once or twice. Credit to GR tho
Say whatever you want about Gordon Ryan, but he WINS, and WINS consistently.
Good to see Gordon not celebrate much, and gracious with his opposition.
Isn't that the norm for him? He generally seems respectful and not overly celebratory post-match.
Gordon is the biggest c*ckwomble on the planet off the mat but even the biggest GR hater has so to say he’s nothing but a consummate professional on the mats.
He just beat what's essentially a blue belt
@@DianteHarris-iv5jr a blue belt that subbed everybody in the sydney trials, yeah right.
@JR-wj9bh I know I'm right. Being 40 lbs bigger than your opponents and winning in Sydney lolol that's funny. Name a high level guy he's ever beaten.... I'll come back in a few years for your answer lol
The fact Gordan doesnt rip leg locks, tells u about his character 💯
20 lbs weight advantage is significant and GR still dominated the entire match.
Dont forget that Josh started his BJJ journey only 4 years ago
@@wanghss2700 don't forget he subbed all his opps at Sydney Trials.
@@wanghss2700don' t forget that Gordon was having stomach problems as this match was happening
Gordon as technical as he's even been, but looked pretty tired at the end. Not sure if he is still sick and obviously the other guy is a mountain, but usually Gordon lookes fresher.
he said in an interview he was basically on the brink of throwing up the whole event.
he said he was dry heaving during the warm up. if you watch the youtube video he posted on his own channel, you can see that his stomach started killing him right before he walked out.
He is not juiced here. You can clearly see it.
@@konstantinrafailov1135 He is
@@konstantinrafailov1135 Yep he's cut his stack down, probably not to 0 but he's definitely less juiced than before
Great questions from the reporter
GR is just so technical and precise. Like watching the Micheal Jordon of our time in Jiu Jitsu!
Yeah, he's that good. The dominance is similar to Jordan too. Everyone knows he's the best by far.
@@billj4525No it is not buddy. He hasn't been truly tested yet!
Thank you for posting. Thank you to the competitors.
great to see flo releasing matches while they are still relevant! great strategy ! 🔥🔥🔥
Saunders guard retention was excellent. Very impressive how he was able to hold off attack for so long. Would love to see a match between him and Nicky Rod, look like Kaiju battle Godzilla Vs Mothma, lol
Saunders would smoke Nicky Rod.
I doubt it, I think Gordon knew he was going to smoke him 30 seconds in and he was trying to make the match more entertaining.
The explanation on Gordon’s instagram about his game plan after the match. Really just shows Saunders didn’t really have good guard retention
Lolol excellent? He had 40 lbs on Gordon and just muscled in a frame that Gordon didn't even challenge lol
He looked awful to me. Just big and powerful. His technique is like maybe blue belt. Not impressed. His size and strength was the only hurdle Gordon had to clear.
Gordon is on another level!
That fella in the red rash guard is pretty good, he’ll be a champ one day
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@@user-ol5nd7gk7y It was a joke lol
@@user-ol5nd7gk7yHe is being sarcastic. He knows who Gordon is.
@@skouria3135 мне похуй
Nah, he is just lucky. Bahahaha!
Incredible top pressure and leg entanglement. A true master of the art
Great versatility! Gordon could not use height nor strength nor weight in this match, so he used technique and movement. So impressive. Hope his stomach can be healed.
Josh has not been controlled like that in along time. Gordon’s meticulous control is a thing of beauty. That’s why he is the GOAT. Ready to see him shut up someone on the B-Team again. Craig Jones…. Nick Rod… whoever.
Josh has never rolled or beaten anyone of any note, except Pena, and Pena was clearly being lazy
Ty flo!!!❤
Love em or hate em you cannot deny!!!
Love that Gordon said it was tight but I didn’t want to hurt him. Respect brutha 🤙🤙
Man his analysis in the technical aspect is crazy.
Gordon's grappling is a thing of beauty.
When people blame it all on steroids and whatnot they clearly aren't watching. He's not exploding or anything, just perfect technique.
Massive opportunity for Deep half Guard entry missed from @1:46 by Saunders, scoop grip with his right arm to pop out the back and door then he could of possibly played the heavy game on top. Deep Half is often mocked by guys who lack experience but it can truly can get you out trouble.
Lmao, you do it then champ
True, coming from a novice I can attest it helped me against the higher belts
No name guy critiques world champion level athletes. My goodness the amount of balls you have. Not the good kind.
@@MG-rm4pz Just pointing out a missed opportunity in that moment. Josh is a great grappler for the limited time he has trained. But let's have a technical discussion on what i'm pointing out. Josh nearly has 4 seconds to scoop grip Gordons left leg to either enter DHG and come out the back or use the space to enter Ude Hishigi Ashi Gatame, you can even see Gordons posted left arm is carrying most of his weight making his hips/knees light before Gordon secures Osaekomi Waza. What are your thoughts on this moment of the Shiai? If you would like I can upload a quick video of me sparring with Luke Giffith where he Sumi Gaeshi me (with ease) but I counter sweep with DHG to stay on top.
@@jimmybangs Trying to sound sophisticated does not make anyone care about your backseat coaching of a high level grappling match, nor does it prove anything about your competence, if that's what you're trying to get across. Sometimes its best to just read the room and realize that when you're a no name UA-cam commenter, no one cares about your critique on someone competing against the worlds best No-Gi grappler.
He always has such control over any subs he applies, amazing.
Thank you!
Even sick Gordon is unstopable
He was a good opponent for Gordon, Josh is not just any athlete, he is a two-time ADCC trials champion in Oceania, and he didn't do too badly, now we want opponents for Gordon like Mason Fowler, Vitor Hugo and even Nick Rod again.
I want to see him against Rod so bad. Just to shut him up.
He defended for 9minutes straight I say he didn't do good.
I’d rather see him face Mica Galvao
To say he is 2 time adcc is hilarious. Did you actually see the tiny guys he goes against?? Then he slams them like he's amazing. He is a juice head and will get destroyed the moment he comes to any other place
Oceania trails is nothing compared to east and west coast trials
THANKS Flo 👊🏼
Can't wait for Limi to upload a video on this
Yeah, he is the best. I love watching Gordon every time.
Nicky's bro got pretty good leglock
Ty
First seeing jiu jitsu in 2019 and doing this well is kinda crazy to me.
You could tell Gordon was struggling physically there. Probably his stomach.
Also giving up 20 lbs
Danaher literally breaksdown this same technique in a previous video from a while back where you act like you want the secondary leg but you’ll lose it but you don’t care because you want the primary leg. Once you get the primary leg it’s game over.
Ppl complaining that gordon is only good cos hes on a cycle and is heavy but he just finessed a guy 20lbs heavier than him with zero effort🔥
His secret is quite obviously white privilege. 🤔
Tem jeito não o homem é o melhor. 🇧🇷
Valeu flo pela postagem.....
É ninguém para o homem não.
Acho que o único..(acho) mais mesma equipe mesmo mentor então não rola ....
Bjj is really chess . That’s why Gordon is the goat , he’s not the most athletic, but he has the better mind.
strength vs technique.
Technique requires strength applied to a precise position and time anyway, just a smart way to use strength.
So stupid comment... If that's the case weight classes would not exist... They are both strong and they have both good technique, gordon has just way more technique advantage that Josh has strength advantage... I mean try to trough any fighter against a gorilla... A gorilla has no technique yet he will win 10/10 times... Its always about how big the gap is... If the gap in strength is too big no amount of technique can save you
He loves us just as much.
Gordon is a gentleman on the mat
He is so amazing wish he didnt have any stomach issues
The commentary team is high level
Gordan Ryan 100 % healthy is a horror movie
True man I hope he gets his stomach sorted and we get to see the very best of him
I have rolled with world class grapplers while attending their seminars. Of course i got submitted during sparring by them.
But seeing Gordon Ryan absolutely smashing those grapplers is kind of scary…just unbelievable.
John in the background looking like a proud stoic father
Saunders honestly did pretty well, surprised me. Hope he competes on WNO again soon
Haha it’s crazy that when someone doesn’t hit a single offensive move against Gordon and spends the entire match defending is still considered “doing pretty well” haha not that I’m disagreeing with you.. it’s just crazy how on another level Gordon is.
Lol 40 lbs should be insurmountable, and all it did for Saunders is make Gordon lazily beat him lol
@@mitcHELLOworld Very true!!!
@@DianteHarris-iv5jryou def got slamed by saunders at some point lol
Is that Nicky Ryan's brother?
Yes.
Love this!!
Only by biology.
Same mother different brother
BTeam
Actually no that's Nicky Ryan's sickly brother
😂
Say what you wan't, but on the matt is gordon a real sportsman and gentleman. Like it.
Kings in control!
The love for the heaters is amazing 😂😂😂
Good for him after all he's been through.
Smooth AF
Great to watch Gordon solve the problms
For lack or a better description, for those of us who saw it, it's like watching Jordan in his prime.
Unfortunately, for Josh and many others, Gordon exists.
Dam love this Gordon, why is Instagram Gordon not like this ?
The Goat
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What’s the song Gordon entered to on this match?
Nicky Ryan’s brother is pretty good
Man he’s still have stomach issues huh. Crazy
Did you all see the 10 staph infections on Saunders thighs
Pretty much a standard in the sport
Saunders gave that leg for free, Gordon is on another level.
The kingggg
Kingcobrajfs really is a man of many talents, TWU
Damn I can’t get over Gordon not sounding how he looks.
Ryan is the best and not even close. He makes it look easy and with little effort.
the goat
I was hoping for a KingCibraJFS fight but here we are
Anyone know what the joe rogan rashguard is form?
Gordon is awesome
THE KING 👑
Josh is massive. But the King is the King.
what is this ? a mountain gordon ryan ?
damn king cobra jfs got pretty jacked
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Rash Guard to cover his incomplete cycle lol😂😂😂
When was this match?
last week on the 20th i think
@@Thebogdanpascal Ah, ok. So this was recent.
Awesome job done Gordon
Gordon on No gi is just other level !!
God damn it. Saunders should’ve never just accepted bottom position.. I thought he would do much more than this.. but hey he’s still young at the sport so is his age. He can comeback better 🔥
Made it look easy.
It was.
Gordon can roll out of bed and heel hook anyone on the planet. It will always be his ace in the hole when he can’t or doesn’t feel like dominating from top position.
Gordan always looks 1 step ahead
The GOAT
the Jon Jones of grappling
Anybody else catch Gordon watching Gordon at the 7:30 mark?
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King is Back
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