I played Fortnite back in like 2018 and i personally didn't enjoy it (maybe its gotten better since then, idk) so I am entirely unbiased, but I have said for years that I fully believe that FN has some of the best character artists in the industry. I'm astonished how they make SO MANY incredible designs constantly, it blows my mind. They're iconic, they're interesting to look at, instantly recognizable, and just fun. Its no wonder the games profit is almost, if not entirely, because of the skins. I hope the artists are paid well
@@ArnezDavid honestly I just thought ramming a plane into people and their structures was funny as hell. When they removed it I immediately became less interested
@@Llamaproductionss The second I started playing Doom and Overwatch my interest in Fortnite became unsalvageable. Ik Doom content is coming to Fortnite soon because it was leaked or something but idk I doubt I'd get back into it unless they did some absolutely off the wall shit
@@themagicalaxolotl2258 i recommend at least trying the no build mode, you might enjoy it, also the game has some lore that may be interesting to someone, but it is kinda long so maybe you should see a video to see the lore better than in-game rn lol
In my opinion, the mcu chose captain america’s color desaturation as a reflection of how his character got darker, especially during civil war and infinity war, I still totally agree with your opinion on the design from fortnite tho.
@@amazingpsm you forgot about iron man and Thor's costumes they're like the Marvel ultimate universe comics. Even the captain America stuff. And also once in a while they'll show the comic accurate costume for the characters like Dr strange in Ragnarok, Thor in the new trailer, classic Loki by Richard grant, captain America, Wanda, vision etc. And comic accuracy and ridiculousness is overrated in my opinion, the MCU changed Thanos from some weird egomaniac alien who wanted to woo Lady Death to a psycho driven to carry out his warped worldview even if it means sacrificing his adopted daughter(Gamora). I would say it's fun to see the whimsy of comics but it depends on whether what is replaced is better or worse.
@@amazingpsm the only superhero movie outfits that embraces the vibrant colours is probably the Shazam and Aquaman movies and even then it makes more sense for them to have that whimsy look due to their in movie storylines unlike the MCU heroes.
@@epicmusic9029 True but i do feel Spideys new suits symbol takes up too much of the front and back, again it’s ok if it’s bigger like the PS4 Suit but even then it doesn’t take up too much space.
I think no way home's green goblin design was pretty good with the armor and tattered clothing. Also how they just let Willem Dafoe's visible the entire time cause he has a mechanized goblin face
the venom design isn’t actually scales, it actually echoes and foreshadowed the lines in spider-man’s costume referencing how the symbiote modeled itself from that outfit
I think its hard to assure actors that they’re not Gonna be made fun of when wearing some of those original costumes, with Captain America you can just imagine him running around on a battle field with people dying left and right while wearing one of least intimidating costumes out there, but in Fortnite, sure, go for it, Fortnite has always been a goofy game, that can add ANYTHING without it being weird or unappealing.
I think the Final Swing suit in NWH is fantastic. It even has the shiny blue to replicate the comic shading, as the Fortnite skin does. It's just straight up a classic suit.
This is why I fell in love with the style of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. The person who created the manga just didn’t care how wacky, crazy and slightly fruity everything was. It was just a fun rollercoaster that got me excited to ride
Hirohiko Araki (the creator of JoJo) was inspired by the style and culture of the Americas in the 80s. Artists like Michael Jackson, Prince, AC/DC, Metallica. All the big things of the 80s have him inspiration
@@dio7213 that's why a large portion of the stands are named after bands or songs from the 80's even though they don't make sense for the time period or location.
@@CitrusRev so I guess spiderman is bad? Teen gets bit by a radioactive spider and fights crime over and over again but yet it manages to be fresh. Same thing with jojo
Gonna be honest, I'm quite surprised at how good I think the Marvel characters' costumes look in Fortnite. The more alien/xenomorph details on Venom look great, and that Green Goblin armor is honestly the best design I think I've seen for the Green Goblin in general.
I always used to say “say what you want about the actual game, fortnite does a really good job with the skins. Like a vast majority of them look really good”
The Green Goblin one is SO amazing, it’s literally comic goblin except it takes the 2002 Spider-Man mask but with the ears and hat like the comics and real yellow eyes but the hat is designed INTO the 2002 mask it’s so well done. To me it’s perfect.
@@velocidellix the only thing I would change/add is add the little side hanging parts to the purple hat idk I feel like it looks slightly better personally
I actually like the MCUs iron spider costume, I think it's a cool design, I've always liked busy designs, simplicity is good, yes, but I don't think it's the only good way to design a costume
@@ChefLASaint there's a difference between different and ass. The iron spider suit in the mcu and the integrated suit are actually ass. They serve no story purpose, and you can tell they're designed that way to sell merchandise.
I feel like Fortnite has a bit more leeway when it comes to sillier designs, because it’s a video game with a cartoony art style, whereas the MCU is made of live action movies, where things have to be slightly more realistic looking to take seriously. All this to say, I don’t think that this is the most fair comparison. Not saying that the MCU can’t improve their designs, however I think it’s not too fair to compare a video game to live action movies. Plus, I don’t think it’s a problem for the films to make their own version of the classic suits from the comics, as long as you can tell it’s the characters from the comics. For example, I’m fine with the Spider-Man suit from the end Spider-Man Far From Home, in fact that’s one of my favorite of his suits from these films. The reason I like it is because it looks cool, and it looks like Spider-Man. Do I prefer the suits that are more like the comics, sure, however I like that suit fine, and I’d be satisfied if he kept it at the end of No Way Home. However, if Spider-Man ended up looking like Black Noir from The Boys…Marvel and I would have a problem lol.
Mcu designs are boring and overdesigned. The simpler or pre-upgrase suits in the mcu to me have always looked better than the upgraded ones. Spiderman's iron spider suit is hideous, Thor's latest design has wayy too much going on, etc.
@@Bopmyglizz if that's how you feel, that's all good. My point was that comparing the designs in the MCU to the fortnite ones seems a bit unfair to me, cause one is more cartoony and silly than the other.
thanks for being the only person here with common sense and logic. people don’t understand that it would look really off if every costume was ripped straight from the comics. for example in wandavision they showed classic costumes for wanda and vision and they looked really stupid. it’s because it wouldn’t look good in real life. i’m also glad they changed captain americas costume from the avengers because it looked too bright and silly
I think you should also acknowledge DC movies costumes and how recently they've become more colorful like the recent Suicide Squad, Shazam, and Aquaman. I particularly loves all the suits in Aquaman.
I've never read an Aquaman comic but seeing the green and gold outfit in the movie made me so happy. It's such a good contrast after the suits they started out the DCEU with (even Wonder Woman who had a pretty good one)
There's also the costumes from Zack Snyder's films, namely for characters like Superman and Batman. I love the alien uniform look they for Superman and the cloth-based aesthetic for Batman (it's also the first live action Batman to have the black and grey color scheme, which I genuinely love). And I don't think I have to explain Wonder Woman's design, that one is just iconic
I quite like the MCU suits though I do see where your coming from. It's mostly Spider-Man's costume in the MCU (up until recently) that I always felt like they skimped out on, but hey I like cramming unnecessary lines and panels on suits to make them "modern" so that's probably why I'm not as bothered as others are.
you forgot about iron man and Thor's costumes they're like the Marvel ultimate universe comics. Even the captain America stuff. And also once in a while they'll show the comic accurate costume for the characters like Dr strange in Ragnarok, Thor in the new trailer, classic Loki by Richard grant, captain America, Wanda, vision etc. And comic accuracy and ridiculousness is overrated in my opinion, the MCU changed Thanos from some weird egomaniac alien who wanted to woo Lady Death to a psycho driven to carry out his warped worldview even if it means sacrificing his adopted daughter(Gamora). I would say it's fun to see the whimsy of comics but it depends on whether what is replaced is better or worse.
MCU is not realistic, specially the later suits, like I can get behind stuff like the first couple Iron Man suits or the Captain America first avenger suit, those are actually realistic depictions and that's why they're considered good, but then you go with all the characters having nanotech and all these extra complex suits that look like a hell to even maintain, also these Fortnite designs can be well replicated in live action
Honestly the Far From Home suit is my absolute favourite because I feel like it perfectly balances simplicity and intricacy. The red and black combo is just perfection imo.
The way I see it is... the MCU can't get away with some of these comic accurate designs. Captain America's suit in the Avengers was the most comic accurate suit he's gotten(aside from the one he used to sell war bonds in TFA). However it looked goofy and awkward because Chris Evans (as buff as he may be) can't possibly have the super unrealistic proportions you see in CBs and other media. FN already has a set art style that can easily get away with over-the-top proportions because it already has that "cartoony" look. So I feel like all these lines and straps and and "details", are meant to distract you from the fact that without them, the suits would looks super simplistic and unappealing. I will say, they have been getting a bit more colorful and accurate lately, but that's mostly because CB artists have started using certain design elements from the movies as their blueprint, mostly to make the characters more identifiable to newcomers.
@@jerryflinn4183 I think it's tough to look at things through lenses of realism, like Grant Morrison says - "only adults wonder who puts air in the tyres of the batmobile", ya know? Like, these people all have magic powers, so there's plenty of imagination goin around, it's limitless! Am rambling but hopefully there's something like a thought in there
@@jerryflinn4183 it doesn't have to be exact, it's just a case of unambitious design more often than not - people say "Superman's red trunks don't work" as if they're the unrealistic thing hah
I actually like how there using the comic suits in MCU with Spiderman and a few chars I can't spoil I honestly love it but I agree with your statements
@@bluehero-96 the other suits were just techy. they weren't the absolute worst. if you looked at him, you would be able to tell that he's spider-man. his homecoming suit was bright, people just didn't like it because of the lines and i guess the black straps that he had? i personally loved the homecoming suit. the people that dislike the lines and all that other shit are nitpicking at the smallest details. if anything, they add to the suit. these are live action movies that are meant to take place in our world. they're going to be a tad bit realistic.
@@mxghty0 It's not just nitpicky. The details added to the homecoming suit do not benefit the design, but make it too busy and uncharacteristic. It's also not bright, actually. There's also a difference between being "realistic" and being visibly tech-ed out the rear, neither of which is characteristic of Spider-man. Even his Spider-armors was made to be subtle with their tech.
0:57 I personally really like the Iron Spider suit, I think that he has a nice upgraded, badass look for going off to space. If they had the classic Iron Spider suit, it would look pretty weird in the biggest crossover ever.
Not to mention, he talks about the iron spider suit and the nanotech suit as if theyre the same. imo i dont really like the jron spider suit; however, when doc ock gives spidey his nanotech back he gets a new suit that i think just looks really clean. but hey thats just me ig
For Cap’s MCU suits, I honestly think the Smithsonian suit (in Winter Soldier) is his best design. It’s got the balance of comic book and realism, the colours are bright, the design flows together nicely, the grey sections blend smoothly into the blue. In essence, it’s a more streamlined upgrade to his WW2 suit, and it looks beautiful
There's just this careful balance that has to be made. You don't want it to look really silly and stupid with bright colors, that doesn't mesh well in real life settings. But you want to stay faithful to the material. I think they did well in the new Doctor Strange movie for example.
Also I would say that Fortnite has it a lot easier with these designs. They have a cartoony art design and they could probably make anything and it'll look normal in the game.
All superhero costumes look silly. The medium is silly, that's the whole appeal of it. Know what looks sillier than just taking the page and making it a costume? Trying to make it 'gritty', like the leather X-Men biker gear, tacticool desaturated 'military' suits and recently, the sci-fi lines everywhere, covered in panels, nanotech aesthetic suits. They all look embarrassing because that's when they stem from, embarrassment over the source material. If you're going to a movie about a comic book character, why wouldn't you expect them to look like the comic book character? And if the costumes are being made 'realistic' to appeal to an audience which doesn't like these characters or movies, why? They're not going to see the movie anyway. Spider-Man is bright red and blue, the X-Men are bright yellow and navy blue, the Hulk is ooze green. They're not black, or brown, or grey, or desaturated. None of that ever looks good or will ever look good.
If there's something that Hollywood needs to understand is that superheroes are supposed to be COLORFUL, not color drained and boring and I think fortnite doing superhero skins is perfect due to fortnite already having a colorful artstyle.
I’m not really a big fan of MCU but I think that you completly miss the point with your claims about changing the suits and overdesigning them. You can’t accurately transition a lot of comic book costumes to live action because they weren’t designed for live action. They lack any texture, therefore cool-looking but simple suits like symbiote Spidey or black and gold Wasp end up looking like pijamas. Fortnite skins look good and they embrace the original silliness of the source material but they exist in styleised cartoony enviorment. You can’t really compare mediums like that
I’ve been playing Fortnite since 2018 and honestly don’t understand the hate. The game itself is really fun, it’s the community that’s kinda very dumb. Also I like the MCU outfits and nobody can change my mind.
Fortnite is bad because u repeat the same thing and like every uear theres an event no one can be bothered especially when people are having more responsibilities in life
@@therobloxpro885 How are story events a negative? Even a ton of people who never play Fortnite agree that they're awesome. Also the other two arguments apply to every other game in existence
Marvel is actually starting to bring out the comic accurate costumes. Look at the Thor trailer, it shows when he was a teen in a 100% comic accurate suit. The new Spider-Man suit is very faithful to the comics. Sam Wilson’s captain America is almost ripped from the pages. Marvel is slowly dipping into the comic suits here.
The problem with that is now people are claiming those suits to be too colorful and vibrant. It's literally what they wanted, yet they complain a whole lot. People fr can't be happy with anything.
Yeah and also Dr. Strange, White Vision, and, although her costume was kind of color drained, Scarlet Witch has a more comic accurate costume than before
I think the new suit at the end of No way Home was pure classic Spiderman, I hope we get to see more of it in the future Spiderman MCU projects, it had no overdesign at all.
Fortnite puts an insane amount of effort into their collabs I just wish they wouldn’t use all their resources on collabs and maybe do some original fortnite skins
I think the suit we see at the end of NWH is the best suit the MCU has ever made, it actually has some colour and it's simple and classic. Hope they keep that pattern up
@@thatblueghost2296 yes, because even if we 'saw it very unclearly' we could see how much closer to comic accuracy they were than the other suits. also, there's concept art and designs posted around the internet that show the suit clearer than the ending scene. also, if you stop the ending scene at a certain part then you can see the suit very clearly because it has light over it. it looks great.
Personally disagree, realistically if you wear any thing long enough it will get darker; it is realistic even if the story doesn’t make sense. like a man being frozen in ice and surviving it makes no sense but if things don’t look right visually if it’s to bright you can’t get behind it. your not watching a comic book it should be as if these characters exist in our world and work by our rules even if they don’t.
Respect for saying you love Fortnite, Its like my shameful enjoyment I don't tell my friends about, mostly because I don't have any but you get the point
It’s simple, comic book suits look really bad in live action. You can’t do the exact comic book suit cause it will look silly and out of place in this more realistic marvel world. I know it’s not realistic but it still tries to feel like the environment is. And that’s what is great about the MCU
I agree with you Only one thing The green goblin costume is meant to be goofy When you look at it in bright daylight with him fighting spiderman over bananas or something it looks really dumb But then you get to the story arcs and see how much that silly costume changes when the darkness come in and the pain he causes
Recently got into fortnite with the no build thing and I managed to let spider-man and the marvel season slip past me but I’m not gonna miss out on Doctor Strange. Hoping Gobby and Venom come back into the store soon so I can get them.
I REALLY HATE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT ARROW'S DEATHSTROKE LOOKS CHEAP & BAD & THE DEATHSTROKE'S CLASSIC SUIT LOOKS RIDICULOUS, & THEN THEY SAY THE OVERDESIGN ABERRATION OF ARKHAM GAMES LOOKS BETTER 1. COMPARING A LIVE ACTION SUIT WITH AN ANIMATED SUIT IS KINDA UNFAIR 2. THE ARROW DEATHSTROKE SUIT NEEDS TO BE PRACTICAL TO LET THE ACTOR MOVE COMFORTABLE, HAS THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF DETAILS, THE COLORS ARE BRIGHTER & ALL HIS WEAPONS ARE WELL POSITIONED WHILE _THE ARKHAM SUIT IS EXTREMILY BULKY, LOOKS SO IMPRACTICAL(& THE PROVE IS THE TOYS CAN'T MOVE & THE SLADE'S EXTREMES TRASSPASS HIM EVERY TIME HE MOVESS) & IS SO FULL OF DETAIL THAT MOST OF THEM LOOSE, NOT MENTIONIN THE HELMET, THE LEFT SIDE IS FULL OF LIKES & BATTLE DAMAGED WHULE SOMEHOW THE RIGHT SIDE IS CLEAN & UNDAMAGE & HAS 0 DETAILSM DON'T EVEN HAD THE RIGHT EYE SHADOW_
I really love the MCU suits I don't see how you could be hating on them. Also the MCU has definitely been making their suits more comic-accurate so I don't understand why you say the suits don't look comic-accurate.
This Green Goblin design is so awesome. Legitimately the best Goblin design I’ve seen. The Sam Raimi Goblin design always pissed me off because he just looked like a weird green man. The mask was cool, but other than that it looked so weird, and there wasn’t any purple to contrast the green (yes I know he has a purple sheen on him but that doesn’t count, it’s barely noticeable). The Fortnite Design captures the idea of Green Goblin’s classic design perfectly and makes it still feel real. I could imagine a crazed billionaire infused with a super serum wearing that outfit. If the MCU ever does a Norman of their own I really hope they take a look at the Fortnite design. Same thing with Venom, his Fortnite design would work perfectly on the big screen.
The purple just doesn't work imo. It's good for cartoons, but not for Live action. I always thought the GG Suit in the comics looked a bit strange. The only ones i liked was how he was drawn between 2000-2004 or so. I really do like the Raimi GG design. It felt realistic without looking too goofy. I really do like the mask a lot too. And yeah, I'm a fan of the Purple sheen. I think they could have integrated some blacks on it, but welp.
i think the reason for them doing such a great job is their cartoon'ish artstyle, so they are not afraid of re-inventing and picking references from the source material unlike Marvel Studios
I never really thought about it that way for how you explained it. Awesome job. One thing I really like about the fortnite skins is that they just do the most random heroes sometimes that you would not expect
I think the answer is way simpler than this essay, costumes for comics don’t work irl cuz they look ridiculous but with Fortnite’s already cartoony look it’s way easier to adapt it to their game. I personally also enjoy Fortnite but still fucking hate it for all the branddeals and just ridiculous shit they did that makes the game so different from the fun simple game it used to be.
Excellent video, couldn't agree more! Superhero suits should be simplistic, bright, colorful, and easily recognizable. Fortnite know's this and continues to pump out banger ass designs, It's just unfortunate the MCU doesn't know any better :/
You’re comparing a children’s game that’s literally just giving a standard Spider-Man suit, it’s not a banger, to a live action cinematic universe’s suit designed to fit in with the rest of the costumes in the mcu, because the mcu chose to have a certain aesthetic with their designs, it’s not cause they don’t know any better? Apparently you want Spider-Man and cap to start showing up in cheap looking Halloween costumes lol, there’s a reason they haven’t gone that route yet, don’t be ridiculous
@@why-oh-wai I would love to see Cap and Spidey show up in something unapologetically comic booky, instead of something overly designed and basic for the sake of "realisim". I think all the point's my buddy Kai made are entirely valid and if you actually watched the video you would know :)
@@jussymcgussy I kinda like how you call the mcu suits basic yet you’re asking for the mcu to do something uninspired and arguably more basic with their costumes, a little silly don’t ya think? and yes you can wipe the smile off, cause I have seen the video, and the comparison is completely absurd
I think captain america works, because although he's a superhero, hes a soldier, and so darker, more drab colours fit better within the universe. However, I'm not a fan of alot of the mcu suits by comparison (not saging I dislike the mcu, just some of tje costumes)
@@spider-man500 if that's the case he should also be constantly shooting guns like that one guy from thor ragnarok, drinking beer and talking about american football whilst always reciting his amendments in an argument.
@@spider-man500 But he's not. His relationship with America is stressed throughout the later movies, it's reflected in his stripes. During winter soldier, the stripes are cut because he's working for shield, and uncovered shady shit among his own country. The next time the stripes are cut, he's considered a terrorist and outlaw by his own country, so they become cut again. When he turns into nomad, his entire star dissapears because he's a "soldier without a country", no captain america. It makes sense
Nah MCU suits are awesome, I can understand preferring something else but never would I think someone would find the iron spider to look bad. That, and so many other things.
Captain America losing the red and the flagness is exactly the point of the later costumes, as he loses his faith in the government he once trusted blindly is a military soldier, but great video still, I lost my shit at "I LOVE FORTNITE" lmao
I really don't like Fortnite, but I can't deny that they have some really badass suit designs that add stuff while being extremely faithful to the original design. I really don't understand why the higher ups at the movie studios don't get this.
Someone might've already posted about this, but part of the reason for the Reds-thing; on Cap, is that brighter/organgier reds don't film super well. Unless they're filmed straight-on in well lit spaces they have a tendency to skew themselves within the refractive interpolations of modern digital cameras. It's the actual reason Bay put flames on the front of Optimums; to break up the stagnant red.
Now when it comes to fortnite for me I've had an interesting history with it. I think I started playing the season after the reaper/wick prototype skin was in the battle pass, I've actually had really fond memories about the events, the times I won when I thought I was dead meat, and overall how hard I laugh when I see some die stupid or I die myself. Granted it is a millennial game so the emotes that are based off of trends always irritate me and sometimes the weapons are unbalanced, but overall I've enjoyed the time I've put into fortnite. As for how they've handled the designs of Marvel and DC heroes, they always nail it. From Deadpool to Venom they've always hit the mark, the only skin I sadly don't love enough to play is the Thor skin, aside from that I completely agree their designs are better. At this point all focus in the MCU is going to more comic accurate designs even though they should've done that from the start, I get in a realistic setting the original costumes as they are could seem a bit cheap and goofy but I mean if go online and look up fan designs for characters they always find a way to balance the practical and the comic book accuracy. The problem with the MCU these days is they now have an agenda to push instead of a direction to go for the next 10 years and between Moon Knight being a God awful representation of the character and them making She-Hulk an Amy Schumer type character, I don't think the MCU is gonna have many loyal fans given how inaccurate they're portraying their characters. Quality over Quantity.
Star-Lord’s Fortnite design is mostly intended to be inaccurate because it’s contextualised as a Fortnite character cosplaying as Quill, not Quill himself. The character cosplaying as him is the “Drift” character from Chapter 1 Season 5’s Battle Pass. Other skins at the time did the same thing like the Black Widow skin using Headhunter or Batman using Jonesy.
@@PeiceofNick 4 month old comment but the Star-Lord skin was among the first marvel items ever added before Fortnite really did collabs like this and is called "Star-Lord Outfit" instead of just "Star-Lord". It uses Drift's model as a base most visibly his hair instead of being a completely unique model.
@@PeiceofNickThe game itself. You can literally compare the face models or the hair and see it’s the exact same, not to mention the way the skins are named. “Star-Lord *Outfit*” is different to “Spider-Man” or “The Hulk” where those are contextualised as the actual characters. “Black Widow *Outfit*” is different to “Wolverine” or “Iron Man” where those are contextualised as the actual characters. I do retract my statement regarding Batman’s skin since the game does actually contextualise that version as literally being Batman, even if it uses a similar naming convention to the Star-Lord and original Black Widow outfit, as well as the similar reuse of assets.
People say Fortnite is cringe and sometimes it is, but what they forget is that sometimes cringe is fun and cool. for example, "MEMES, the DNA of the soul"
THIS VIDEO IS A 150000/10!!!! I really appreciate how acknowledge the issue with the MCU suits just like Browntable‘s MCU Overdesign video keep up the awesome work!!!
I feel like overall in lots of shows and tv they are starting to shift from the dark and techno aesthetics to the originals , you have Spidey and flash and iron man and Captain America and Ms Marvel all getting pretty comic accurate suits .
My take is: if a child can draw the essential design of the costume then it’s done right. I like mcu Spider-Man suits since despite their over design at times, it’s never too much I feel, it always feels like it’s just added detail. I can always imagine a kid drawing the essential elements of the suits. Cannot say the same about some Thor and cap suits
Its pretty nice that they are giving comics more love than the MCU. The Daredevil suit looks like it is ripped straight from the Chip Zdarsky run that has been going on. Love it
im pretty sure because it is lol i was recently reading the comic and opened up fn a few days ago and the skin is almost 1:1 aside from maybe lighting but thats honestly just fortnite
You know I really agree on this but I don’t think we would agree on this for a long time because MC was going to release a fourth movie for Spider-Man Tom Holland and he’s gonna have the most comic accurate suit ever
I'm disappointed you didn't speak of the chin strap for cap. It is one thing that I think cap needs because the chin hanging out always looks ridiculous.
1:11 costume looks fine here, because it’s military looking and makes sense for the character currently. I do agree that it lacks red and white though. In terms in saturation, I’d be easier to shoot a guy in saturated clothing, plus battle damage, rolling around in dirt, and maybe even rewashing the suit, causing faded colors? I also do love the scales on venom. It’s not my headcanon, because venom is a goopy symbiote. In agent venom, he has edges and armor sure, but even that bothers me. The green goblin suit in fortnite is boring to me there’s also not as much green as I’d like there to be.
I like venom with the red eyes… I thought it was inventive and at least exploring other potential ways to look cool. For Eddie Brock? Nah let’s not. For scorpion? Hell yeah dude
I totally agree with you, the mcu films would look much better with bright colors, I do enjoy the weird lines they make instead of just plain suits, I think it makes them look sort of more protective, but the colors are just a little off, and that's why I am excited to see the next movie of tom holland's spider man, cause in the post credits scene we see him with yet another outfit, but this one seems to be a lot more similar to the classic suit, and with bright colors too
Don't get me wrong, I really love the fortnite designs as much as anyone, but it's important to understand why they work. Fortnite is an extremely colorful game, so these outfits look perfectly natural, just like how they did in the old comics, which also had an extremely colorful style. These same colors simply wouldn't work on a live-action setting, where they'd pop out like if it was a clown show, and not an actual action movie that tries to take itself seriously. People need to understand that adaptation isn't just carrying over stuff from the comic into a movie. It's in the name. They need to adapt things so that they work better in the new medium. Sometimes, it feels like people advocating for stuff like this are more fueled by nostalgia than their actual tastes. I'm mostly an outside spectator when it comes to all the marvel stuff, as I'm not really into it, so I'd like to believe that what I'm saying is without any bias towards either the comics or the movies. The truth is that the comic costumes would look absolutely awful in live-action, and so would the newer designs if they were in the comics.
Sir, with all do respect I believe the idea that fortnite has made unrealistic suits more realistic is absurd. Fortnite is very cartoony and exaggerated especially compared to live action adaptations.
I tend to disagree with the criticism of the MCU costumes being overdesigned, I actually think a lot of the MCU costumes are outstandingly great, but one thing is for sure. Fortnite's designs are absolutely top tier. One thing I'd like to point out about the MCU designs is the people who say they don't like all the vertical lines etc. That's a valid opinion, but I actually think that some people don't realize that the purpose of the vertical lines is to give the costume a slimming effect, which is a huge goal of superhero costume designers. That's why I think a lot of them are so masterfully designed.
And dc. Supermans design in fortnite is like second best in all superman designs, injustice superman is just godly. The fortnite batman skin is really cool too.
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I played Fortnite back in like 2018 and i personally didn't enjoy it (maybe its gotten better since then, idk) so I am entirely unbiased, but I have said for years that I fully believe that FN has some of the best character artists in the industry. I'm astonished how they make SO MANY incredible designs constantly, it blows my mind. They're iconic, they're interesting to look at, instantly recognizable, and just fun. Its no wonder the games profit is almost, if not entirely, because of the skins.
I hope the artists are paid well
I honestly thought Fortnite was better in 2018 so if u didn't like it then.... You're definitely not gonna like it now lmao
@@ArnezDavid honestly I just thought ramming a plane into people and their structures was funny as hell. When they removed it I immediately became less interested
@@themagicalaxolotl2258 Helicopters are in the game right now
@@Llamaproductionss The second I started playing Doom and Overwatch my interest in Fortnite became unsalvageable. Ik Doom content is coming to Fortnite soon because it was leaked or something but idk I doubt I'd get back into it unless they did some absolutely off the wall shit
@@themagicalaxolotl2258 i recommend at least trying the no build mode, you might enjoy it, also the game has some lore that may be interesting to someone, but it is kinda long so maybe you should see a video to see the lore better than in-game rn lol
In my opinion, the mcu chose captain america’s color desaturation as a reflection of how his character got darker, especially during civil war and infinity war, I still totally agree with your opinion on the design from fortnite tho.
i didnt think about it that way, that helps me tolerate it more...
@@amazingpsm oh btw i noticed this recently but caps helmet is actually a solder helmet! Like this 🪖
@@amazingpsm you forgot about iron man and Thor's costumes they're like the Marvel ultimate universe comics. Even the captain America stuff. And also once in a while they'll show the comic accurate costume for the characters like Dr strange in Ragnarok, Thor in the new trailer, classic Loki by Richard grant, captain America, Wanda, vision etc.
And comic accuracy and ridiculousness is overrated in my opinion, the MCU changed Thanos from some weird egomaniac alien who wanted to woo Lady Death to a psycho driven to carry out his warped worldview even if it means sacrificing his adopted daughter(Gamora). I would say it's fun to see the whimsy of comics but it depends on whether what is replaced is better or worse.
@@amazingpsm the only superhero movie outfits that embraces the vibrant colours is probably the Shazam and Aquaman movies and even then it makes more sense for them to have that whimsy look due to their in movie storylines unlike the MCU heroes.
@@epicmusic9029 True but i do feel Spideys new suits symbol takes up too much of the front and back, again it’s ok if it’s bigger like the PS4 Suit but even then it doesn’t take up too much space.
I think no way home's green goblin design was pretty good with the armor and tattered clothing. Also how they just let Willem Dafoe's visible the entire time cause he has a mechanized goblin face
What they could have done, is for the final battle have a battle damaged mask where you can see his mouth
@@hbcreates8355 I love the iconic mask, but, no. To cover Willem Dafoe's face is a crime.
But guess what? He still ain't a MCU characterm
@@kriticalitylives that’s why I’m saying cover up only a bit of his face.
@@hbcreates8355 Nah Man, you get Willem Dafoe, you show him in all of him willem dafoe-eyness
the venom design isn’t actually scales, it actually echoes and foreshadowed the lines in spider-man’s costume referencing how the symbiote modeled itself from that outfit
Cool detail in fortnite
I think its hard to assure actors that they’re not Gonna be made fun of when wearing some of those original costumes, with Captain America you can just imagine him running around on a battle field with people dying left and right while wearing one of least intimidating costumes out there, but in Fortnite, sure, go for it, Fortnite has always been a goofy game, that can add ANYTHING without it being weird or unappealing.
Oh nooo the millionaire actors are gonna get made fun of on Reddit 😢
I think the Final Swing suit in NWH is fantastic. It even has the shiny blue to replicate the comic shading, as the Fortnite skin does. It's just straight up a classic suit.
It really isn't the classic suit
The shiny blue looks kinda like a plastic bag material and again they kinda just could've used cloth tbh
@@mzov_1724 it’s different but not too different, it’s the best cinematic Spider-Man suit period
@@everything-comics1102 tasm2 better lol
@@everything-comics1102 hell nah! tasm2 slaps any of toms
@@mzov_1724 yeah it's more similar to spider armor mark 4
Spidey’s eye lenses also change in size to mimic the comic expressions for spidey. I just love it so much.
This is why I fell in love with the style of Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure. The person who created the manga just didn’t care how wacky, crazy and slightly fruity everything was. It was just a fun rollercoaster that got me excited to ride
Hirohiko Araki (the creator of JoJo) was inspired by the style and culture of the Americas in the 80s. Artists like Michael Jackson, Prince, AC/DC, Metallica. All the big things of the 80s have him inspiration
@@dio7213 that's why a large portion of the stands are named after bands or songs from the 80's even though they don't make sense for the time period or location.
@Zau that's... the point...
@@kurtx5333 then it's a bad show
@@CitrusRev so I guess spiderman is bad?
Teen gets bit by a radioactive spider and fights crime over and over again but yet it manages to be fresh.
Same thing with jojo
I love every single design fortnite makes for the marvel characters. It’s great how they don’t take it too seriously, and give it bright colors
They also made a good Batman.
@@thesnaggler which Batman
@@Ghosty5938 think he's talking about the season x Batman skins
@@Ghosty5938 The Batman you can buy outside of the item shop (Not Zero point batman.)
@@thesnaggler bruh what
Gonna be honest, I'm quite surprised at how good I think the Marvel characters' costumes look in Fortnite.
The more alien/xenomorph details on Venom look great, and that Green Goblin armor is honestly the best design I think I've seen for the Green Goblin in general.
The Comic + Metal look is amazing
I always used to say “say what you want about the actual game, fortnite does a really good job with the skins. Like a vast majority of them look really good”
Yeah they pretty much take most takes of the characters and mix em together a little bit here a little there and then just pinch of themselves
The Green Goblin one is SO amazing, it’s literally comic goblin except it takes the 2002 Spider-Man mask but with the ears and hat like the comics and real yellow eyes but the hat is designed INTO the 2002 mask it’s so well done. To me it’s perfect.
@@velocidellix the only thing I would change/add is add the little side hanging parts to the purple hat idk I feel like it looks slightly better personally
I actually like the MCUs iron spider costume, I think it's a cool design, I've always liked busy designs, simplicity is good, yes, but I don't think it's the only good way to design a costume
Same honestly
Facts this guy is just a full on comic kid and can’t enjoy anything different
@@ChefLASaint its funny how they complain over small changes and shit instead of taking them as they atr
Me too
@@ChefLASaint there's a difference between different and ass. The iron spider suit in the mcu and the integrated suit are actually ass. They serve no story purpose, and you can tell they're designed that way to sell merchandise.
I feel like Fortnite has a bit more leeway when it comes to sillier designs, because it’s a video game with a cartoony art style, whereas the MCU is made of live action movies, where things have to be slightly more realistic looking to take seriously. All this to say, I don’t think that this is the most fair comparison. Not saying that the MCU can’t improve their designs, however I think it’s not too fair to compare a video game to live action movies. Plus, I don’t think it’s a problem for the films to make their own version of the classic suits from the comics, as long as you can tell it’s the characters from the comics. For example, I’m fine with the Spider-Man suit from the end Spider-Man Far From Home, in fact that’s one of my favorite of his suits from these films. The reason I like it is because it looks cool, and it looks like Spider-Man. Do I prefer the suits that are more like the comics, sure, however I like that suit fine, and I’d be satisfied if he kept it at the end of No Way Home. However, if Spider-Man ended up looking like Black Noir from The Boys…Marvel and I would have a problem lol.
Mcu designs are boring and overdesigned. The simpler or pre-upgrase suits in the mcu to me have always looked better than the upgraded ones. Spiderman's iron spider suit is hideous, Thor's latest design has wayy too much going on, etc.
@@Bopmyglizz if that's how you feel, that's all good. My point was that comparing the designs in the MCU to the fortnite ones seems a bit unfair to me, cause one is more cartoony and silly than the other.
thanks for being the only person here with common sense and logic. people don’t understand that it would look really off if every costume was ripped straight from the comics. for example in wandavision they showed classic costumes for wanda and vision and they looked really stupid. it’s because it wouldn’t look good in real life. i’m also glad they changed captain americas costume from the avengers because it looked too bright and silly
I think you should also acknowledge DC movies costumes and how recently they've become more colorful like the recent Suicide Squad, Shazam, and Aquaman. I particularly loves all the suits in Aquaman.
The CW shows also have some really colorful costumes
@@Metatronio eeeeh somewhat,
@@meep9231 Some are extremely good and others are utter dogshit which makes the good ones even better
I've never read an Aquaman comic but seeing the green and gold outfit in the movie made me so happy. It's such a good contrast after the suits they started out the DCEU with (even Wonder Woman who had a pretty good one)
There's also the costumes from Zack Snyder's films, namely for characters like Superman and Batman. I love the alien uniform look they for Superman and the cloth-based aesthetic for Batman (it's also the first live action Batman to have the black and grey color scheme, which I genuinely love). And I don't think I have to explain Wonder Woman's design, that one is just iconic
I quite like the MCU suits though I do see where your coming from. It's mostly Spider-Man's costume in the MCU (up until recently) that I always felt like they skimped out on, but hey I like cramming unnecessary lines and panels on suits to make them "modern" so that's probably why I'm not as bothered as others are.
So many lines
Over designs
The Homecoming suit is honestly prwttt good imo, I actually like the black lines
@@ItzOddwin same. Don't know why but it adds some uniqueness to the design
you forgot about iron man and Thor's costumes they're like the Marvel ultimate universe comics. Even the captain America stuff. And also once in a while they'll show the comic accurate costume for the characters like Dr strange in Ragnarok, Thor in the new trailer, classic Loki by Richard grant, captain America, Wanda, vision etc.
And comic accuracy and ridiculousness is overrated in my opinion, the MCU changed Thanos from some weird egomaniac alien who wanted to woo Lady Death to a psycho driven to carry out his warped worldview even if it means sacrificing his adopted daughter(Gamora). I would say it's fun to see the whimsy of comics but it depends on whether what is replaced is better or worse.
I actually prefer the realism in suits
MCU is not realistic, specially the later suits, like I can get behind stuff like the first couple Iron Man suits or the Captain America first avenger suit, those are actually realistic depictions and that's why they're considered good, but then you go with all the characters having nanotech and all these extra complex suits that look like a hell to even maintain, also these Fortnite designs can be well replicated in live action
Honestly the Far From Home suit is my absolute favourite because I feel like it perfectly balances simplicity and intricacy. The red and black combo is just perfection imo.
The way I see it is... the MCU can't get away with some of these comic accurate designs. Captain America's suit in the Avengers was the most comic accurate suit he's gotten(aside from the one he used to sell war bonds in TFA). However it looked goofy and awkward because Chris Evans (as buff as he may be) can't possibly have the super unrealistic proportions you see in CBs and other media. FN already has a set art style that can easily get away with over-the-top proportions because it already has that "cartoony" look. So I feel like all these lines and straps and and "details", are meant to distract you from the fact that without them, the suits would looks super simplistic and unappealing.
I will say, they have been getting a bit more colorful and accurate lately, but that's mostly because CB artists have started using certain design elements from the movies as their blueprint, mostly to make the characters more identifiable to newcomers.
I'd personally say that's a failure of the costume designers, not that the comic design is somehow unadaptable
@@itsgeegra it is. How is it realistic to wear spandex to war.
@@jerryflinn4183 I think it's tough to look at things through lenses of realism, like Grant Morrison says - "only adults wonder who puts air in the tyres of the batmobile", ya know? Like, these people all have magic powers, so there's plenty of imagination goin around, it's limitless!
Am rambling but hopefully there's something like a thought in there
@@itsgeegra that’s fine in comics, it doesn’t translate as well to live action movies
@@jerryflinn4183 it doesn't have to be exact, it's just a case of unambitious design more often than not - people say "Superman's red trunks don't work" as if they're the unrealistic thing hah
I actually like how there using the comic suits in MCU with Spiderman and a few chars I can't spoil I honestly love it but I agree with your statements
Except until the very end they DIDN'T make comic suits for Spider-man. They invented suits that looked militaristic and alien.
@@bluehero-96 ok?
@@bluehero-96 How? It is spandex
@@bluehero-96 the other suits were just techy. they weren't the absolute worst. if you looked at him, you would be able to tell that he's spider-man. his homecoming suit was bright, people just didn't like it because of the lines and i guess the black straps that he had? i personally loved the homecoming suit. the people that dislike the lines and all that other shit are nitpicking at the smallest details. if anything, they add to the suit. these are live action movies that are meant to take place in our world. they're going to be a tad bit realistic.
@@mxghty0
It's not just nitpicky. The details added to the homecoming suit do not benefit the design, but make it too busy and uncharacteristic. It's also not bright, actually. There's also a difference between being "realistic" and being visibly tech-ed out the rear, neither of which is characteristic of Spider-man. Even his Spider-armors was made to be subtle with their tech.
0:57 I personally really like the Iron Spider suit, I think that he has a nice upgraded, badass look for going off to space. If they had the classic Iron Spider suit, it would look pretty weird in the biggest crossover ever.
No, it wouldn't because it's PERFECT.
@@seronimome9294 incorrect
@@aarong19 no u
Not to mention, he talks about the iron spider suit and the nanotech suit as if theyre the same. imo i dont really like the jron spider suit; however, when doc ock gives spidey his nanotech back he gets a new suit that i think just looks really clean. but hey thats just me ig
For Cap’s MCU suits, I honestly think the Smithsonian suit (in Winter Soldier) is his best design. It’s got the balance of comic book and realism, the colours are bright, the design flows together nicely, the grey sections blend smoothly into the blue. In essence, it’s a more streamlined upgrade to his WW2 suit, and it looks beautiful
There's just this careful balance that has to be made. You don't want it to look really silly and stupid with bright colors, that doesn't mesh well in real life settings. But you want to stay faithful to the material. I think they did well in the new Doctor Strange movie for example.
Also I would say that Fortnite has it a lot easier with these designs. They have a cartoony art design and they could probably make anything and it'll look normal in the game.
All superhero costumes look silly. The medium is silly, that's the whole appeal of it. Know what looks sillier than just taking the page and making it a costume? Trying to make it 'gritty', like the leather X-Men biker gear, tacticool desaturated 'military' suits and recently, the sci-fi lines everywhere, covered in panels, nanotech aesthetic suits. They all look embarrassing because that's when they stem from, embarrassment over the source material.
If you're going to a movie about a comic book character, why wouldn't you expect them to look like the comic book character? And if the costumes are being made 'realistic' to appeal to an audience which doesn't like these characters or movies, why? They're not going to see the movie anyway.
Spider-Man is bright red and blue, the X-Men are bright yellow and navy blue, the Hulk is ooze green. They're not black, or brown, or grey, or desaturated. None of that ever looks good or will ever look good.
If there's something that Hollywood needs to understand is that superheroes are supposed to be COLORFUL, not color drained and boring and I think fortnite doing superhero skins is perfect due to fortnite already having a colorful artstyle.
Not necessarily.
ye, imagine mcu captain america in fortnite, it would look so off lol
James Gunn understood this when he created the Suicide Squad.
yeah and many kids see superhero movies after all 🤷🏻♂️
Tbf, as bad as the movies are getting, the newer suits and costumes are getting more colerful by the day.
When they put the medieval armor look to the green goblin that shit is dope
I’m not really a big fan of MCU but I think that you completly miss the point with your claims about changing the suits and overdesigning them. You can’t accurately transition a lot of comic book costumes to live action because they weren’t designed for live action. They lack any texture, therefore cool-looking but simple suits like symbiote Spidey or black and gold Wasp end up looking like pijamas. Fortnite skins look good and they embrace the original silliness of the source material but they exist in styleised cartoony enviorment. You can’t really compare mediums like that
This is bull.
They CAN adapt the classic suits if they WANTED too. But they just choose not to.
I’ve been playing Fortnite since 2018 and honestly don’t understand the hate. The game itself is really fun, it’s the community that’s kinda very dumb.
Also I like the MCU outfits and nobody can change my mind.
I agree with you
Fortnite is bad because u repeat the same thing and like every uear theres an event no one can be bothered especially when people are having more responsibilities in life
@@D4C_Gaming I agree
@@therobloxpro885 So what, repetitiveness is in every game and learn how to spell event and everybody gets excited about event.
@@therobloxpro885 How are story events a negative? Even a ton of people who never play Fortnite agree that they're awesome. Also the other two arguments apply to every other game in existence
Marvel is actually starting to bring out the comic accurate costumes. Look at the Thor trailer, it shows when he was a teen in a 100% comic accurate suit. The new Spider-Man suit is very faithful to the comics. Sam Wilson’s captain America is almost ripped from the pages. Marvel is slowly dipping into the comic suits here.
The problem with that is now people are claiming those suits to be too colorful and vibrant. It's literally what they wanted, yet they complain a whole lot. People fr can't be happy with anything.
@@batavenger1022 MCU fans can never be pleased when it comes to costumes
Yeah and also Dr. Strange, White Vision, and, although her costume was kind of color drained, Scarlet Witch has a more comic accurate costume than before
@@RetardedGoat16 I think it’s because it’s mainly a minority of people who prefer the vibrant, colourful, comic book accurate suits.
About time. I hope they keep it that way.
I think the new suit at the end of No way Home was pure classic Spiderman, I hope we get to see more of it in the future Spiderman MCU projects, it had no overdesign at all.
3:00 Chun Li costume got me acting unwise
Fortnite puts an insane amount of effort into their collabs I just wish they wouldn’t use all their resources on collabs and maybe do some original fortnite skins
I think the suit we see at the end of NWH is the best suit the MCU has ever made, it actually has some colour and it's simple and classic. Hope they keep that pattern up
The suit we saw very unclearly for 30 seconds is the best one? I think the best ones are Sam Wilson captain America and the Ironman armours
@@thatblueghost2296 nah they trash lol
@@spider-man6932 how so?
@@thatblueghost2296 sam Wilson cap is amazing and the others but not my favorite
@@thatblueghost2296 yes, because even if we 'saw it very unclearly' we could see how much closer to comic accuracy they were than the other suits. also, there's concept art and designs posted around the internet that show the suit clearer than the ending scene.
also, if you stop the ending scene at a certain part then you can see the suit very clearly because it has light over it. it looks great.
Personally disagree, realistically if you wear any thing long enough it will get darker;
it is realistic even if the story doesn’t make sense. like a man being frozen in ice and surviving it makes no sense but if things don’t look right visually if it’s to bright you can’t get behind it. your not watching a comic book it should be as if these characters exist in our world and work by our rules even if they don’t.
They fixed the fit of spiderman in the mcu. At the end they made Peter wear the original comic spiderman suit.
Damn I thought that goblin design of fortnite looked goofy but close up he looks freaking terrifying
Respect for saying you love Fortnite, Its like my shameful enjoyment I don't tell my friends about, mostly because I don't have any but you get the point
POV: you’re coming out to your parents 1:26
It’s simple, comic book suits look really bad in live action. You can’t do the exact comic book suit cause it will look silly and out of place in this more realistic marvel world. I know it’s not realistic but it still tries to feel like the environment is. And that’s what is great about the MCU
Sometimes it depends on the costume from the comic, animation and real life are very different
I agree with you
Only one thing
The green goblin costume is meant to be goofy
When you look at it in bright daylight with him fighting spiderman over bananas or something it looks really dumb
But then you get to the story arcs and see how much that silly costume changes when the darkness come in and the pain he causes
I swear to God I was watching this 4 am in my cellphone, and I got a jumpacare when he say "FORTNITE!" lmao
The more simplistic designs fit better when the game is simplistic
Recently got into fortnite with the no build thing and I managed to let spider-man and the marvel season slip past me but I’m not gonna miss out on Doctor Strange. Hoping Gobby and Venom come back into the store soon so I can get them.
I fucking loved the marvel season
We need another one
BADLY
@@Mr.Blandito366 agreed 10000% I’d take a dc season too
@@Vanluxen or another marvel season
Video hasn’t even started premiered but facts
the music in this video is so dramatic for no reason lol
I REALLY HATE WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT ARROW'S DEATHSTROKE LOOKS CHEAP & BAD & THE DEATHSTROKE'S CLASSIC SUIT LOOKS RIDICULOUS, & THEN THEY SAY THE OVERDESIGN ABERRATION OF ARKHAM GAMES LOOKS BETTER
1. COMPARING A LIVE ACTION SUIT WITH AN ANIMATED SUIT IS KINDA UNFAIR
2. THE ARROW DEATHSTROKE SUIT NEEDS TO BE PRACTICAL TO LET THE ACTOR MOVE COMFORTABLE, HAS THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF DETAILS, THE COLORS ARE BRIGHTER & ALL HIS WEAPONS ARE WELL POSITIONED
WHILE
_THE ARKHAM SUIT IS EXTREMILY BULKY, LOOKS SO IMPRACTICAL(& THE PROVE IS THE TOYS CAN'T MOVE & THE SLADE'S EXTREMES TRASSPASS HIM EVERY TIME HE MOVESS) & IS SO FULL OF DETAIL THAT MOST OF THEM LOOSE, NOT MENTIONIN THE HELMET, THE LEFT SIDE IS FULL OF LIKES & BATTLE DAMAGED WHULE SOMEHOW THE RIGHT SIDE IS CLEAN & UNDAMAGE & HAS 0 DETAILSM DON'T EVEN HAD THE RIGHT EYE SHADOW_
I really love the MCU suits I don't see how you could be hating on them. Also the MCU has definitely been making their suits more comic-accurate so I don't understand why you say the suits don't look comic-accurate.
Because some don’t look accurate. And that’s fair, from a normie standpoint, I guess-
Seems like you just didn't listen to him, he clearly explained all his criticisms
Am not a fan of them. I find them to be quite ugly.
Spectacular Spider-Man probably has my favorite designs still for green goblin
Fortnite even has better swinging Mechanics than the AVENGERS game
“Marvel got showed up by Fortnite of all things”
-Godzillamendoza
This Green Goblin design is so awesome. Legitimately the best Goblin design I’ve seen. The Sam Raimi Goblin design always pissed me off because he just looked like a weird green man. The mask was cool, but other than that it looked so weird, and there wasn’t any purple to contrast the green (yes I know he has a purple sheen on him but that doesn’t count, it’s barely noticeable). The Fortnite Design captures the idea of Green Goblin’s classic design perfectly and makes it still feel real. I could imagine a crazed billionaire infused with a super serum wearing that outfit. If the MCU ever does a Norman of their own I really hope they take a look at the Fortnite design. Same thing with Venom, his Fortnite design would work perfectly on the big screen.
I actually prefer the Sam raimi goblin over comic goblin.
Though I do like comic goblin.
@@N0RTAGEM-thh- same Rami design always felt more realistic
The purple just doesn't work imo. It's good for cartoons, but not for Live action.
I always thought the GG Suit in the comics looked a bit strange. The only ones i liked was how he was drawn between 2000-2004 or so.
I really do like the Raimi GG design. It felt realistic without looking too goofy. I really do like the mask a lot too. And yeah, I'm a fan of the Purple sheen. I think they could have integrated some blacks on it, but welp.
Sam Raimi goblin mask is cool but the suit is just power ranger type shi
A video of you going through each of the marvel skins and giving your opinon on them would be really fun
The spider man suit with the gold logo is cool, that’s all that matters
i think the reason for them doing such a great job is their cartoon'ish artstyle, so they are not afraid of re-inventing and picking references from the source material unlike Marvel Studios
I never really thought about it that way for how you explained it. Awesome job. One thing I really like about the fortnite skins is that they just do the most random heroes sometimes that you would not expect
I’ve never had a problem with the over design stuff, the only problem I had with the suits were the colour options
"I LOVE FORTNITE!!!" LMAO a peasant coming out of the closet
I think the answer is way simpler than this essay, costumes for comics don’t work irl cuz they look ridiculous but with Fortnite’s already cartoony look it’s way easier to adapt it to their game. I personally also enjoy Fortnite but still fucking hate it for all the branddeals and just ridiculous shit they did that makes the game so different from the fun simple game it used to be.
Excellent video, couldn't agree more! Superhero suits should be simplistic, bright, colorful, and easily recognizable. Fortnite know's this and continues to pump out banger ass designs, It's just unfortunate the MCU doesn't know any better :/
tell that to tony stark...not saying i dont agree just sayin....ok bye
You’re comparing a children’s game that’s literally just giving a standard Spider-Man suit, it’s not a banger, to a live action cinematic universe’s suit designed to fit in with the rest of the costumes in the mcu, because the mcu chose to have a certain aesthetic with their designs, it’s not cause they don’t know any better? Apparently you want Spider-Man and cap to start showing up in cheap looking Halloween costumes lol, there’s a reason they haven’t gone that route yet, don’t be ridiculous
@@spidermanonvirtualreality4029 I like the infinity war iron man suit
@@why-oh-wai I would love to see Cap and Spidey show up in something unapologetically comic booky, instead of something overly designed and basic for the sake of "realisim". I think all the point's my buddy Kai made are entirely valid and if you actually watched the video you would know :)
@@jussymcgussy I kinda like how you call the mcu suits basic yet you’re asking for the mcu to do something uninspired and arguably more basic with their costumes, a little silly don’t ya think? and yes you can wipe the smile off, cause I have seen the video, and the comparison is completely absurd
I think captain america works, because although he's a superhero, hes a soldier, and so darker, more drab colours fit better within the universe.
However, I'm not a fan of alot of the mcu suits by comparison (not saging I dislike the mcu, just some of tje costumes)
But he ISN'T. He is the symbol of america.
She SHOULD be bright.
@@spider-man500 if that's the case he should also be constantly shooting guns like that one guy from thor ragnarok, drinking beer and talking about american football whilst always reciting his amendments in an argument.
@@spider-man500 But he's not. His relationship with America is stressed throughout the later movies, it's reflected in his stripes. During winter soldier, the stripes are cut because he's working for shield, and uncovered shady shit among his own country. The next time the stripes are cut, he's considered a terrorist and outlaw by his own country, so they become cut again. When he turns into nomad, his entire star dissapears because he's a "soldier without a country", no captain america. It makes sense
They tackle the Spiderman grappling mechanic better than the games
Nah MCU suits are awesome, I can understand preferring something else but never would I think someone would find the iron spider to look bad. That, and so many other things.
I wish they would use the fortnite suits in the mcu like not even changed just the same suits
Will that would be unoriginal
@@joshtheidiot2577 it’s better than what they did themselves
I think what the MCU does is original and unique and recently they have become modern but also comic accurate
No cause ur gonna have dumbass kids screaming “Fortnite” in every single theatre.
@@joshtheidiot2577 But still way too Hollywood.
Captain America losing the red and the flagness is exactly the point of the later costumes, as he loses his faith in the government he once trusted blindly is a military soldier, but great video still, I lost my shit at "I LOVE FORTNITE" lmao
I really don't like Fortnite, but I can't deny that they have some really badass suit designs that add stuff while being extremely faithful to the original design. I really don't understand why the higher ups at the movie studios don't get this.
Someone might've already posted about this, but part of the reason for the Reds-thing; on Cap, is that brighter/organgier reds don't film super well. Unless they're filmed straight-on in well lit spaces they have a tendency to skew themselves within the refractive interpolations of modern digital cameras.
It's the actual reason Bay put flames on the front of Optimums; to break up the stagnant red.
Spider-Man's new homemade suit at the end of No Way Home is god tier.
emphasis on home made all his over suits apart from his first one were made and designed by tony stark
Now when it comes to fortnite for me I've had an interesting history with it. I think I started playing the season after the reaper/wick prototype skin was in the battle pass, I've actually had really fond memories about the events, the times I won when I thought I was dead meat, and overall how hard I laugh when I see some die stupid or I die myself. Granted it is a millennial game so the emotes that are based off of trends always irritate me and sometimes the weapons are unbalanced, but overall I've enjoyed the time I've put into fortnite. As for how they've handled the designs of Marvel and DC heroes, they always nail it. From Deadpool to Venom they've always hit the mark, the only skin I sadly don't love enough to play is the Thor skin, aside from that I completely agree their designs are better. At this point all focus in the MCU is going to more comic accurate designs even though they should've done that from the start, I get in a realistic setting the original costumes as they are could seem a bit cheap and goofy but I mean if go online and look up fan designs for characters they always find a way to balance the practical and the comic book accuracy. The problem with the MCU these days is they now have an agenda to push instead of a direction to go for the next 10 years and between Moon Knight being a God awful representation of the character and them making She-Hulk an Amy Schumer type character, I don't think the MCU is gonna have many loyal fans given how inaccurate they're portraying their characters. Quality over Quantity.
LMFAOOOO the star lord at the end omg that was nice I bet very few made it to the very end
Star-Lord’s Fortnite design is mostly intended to be inaccurate because it’s contextualised as a Fortnite character cosplaying as Quill, not Quill himself.
The character cosplaying as him is the “Drift” character from Chapter 1 Season 5’s Battle Pass. Other skins at the time did the same thing like the Black Widow skin using Headhunter or Batman using Jonesy.
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@@PeiceofNick 4 month old comment but the Star-Lord skin was among the first marvel items ever added before Fortnite really did collabs like this and is called "Star-Lord Outfit" instead of just "Star-Lord". It uses Drift's model as a base most visibly his hair instead of being a completely unique model.
@@PeiceofNickThe game itself.
You can literally compare the face models or the hair and see it’s the exact same, not to mention the way the skins are named.
“Star-Lord *Outfit*” is different to “Spider-Man” or “The Hulk” where those are contextualised as the actual characters.
“Black Widow *Outfit*” is different to “Wolverine” or “Iron Man” where those are contextualised as the actual characters.
I do retract my statement regarding Batman’s skin since the game does actually contextualise that version as literally being Batman, even if it uses a similar naming convention to the Star-Lord and original Black Widow outfit, as well as the similar reuse of assets.
People say Fortnite is cringe and sometimes it is, but what they forget is that sometimes cringe is fun and cool. for example, "MEMES, the DNA of the soul"
No. The community is just goofy ass dumb ppl or 5 yo's the games good
THIS VIDEO IS A 150000/10!!!! I really appreciate how acknowledge the issue with the MCU suits just like Browntable‘s MCU Overdesign video keep up the awesome work!!!
I feel like overall in lots of shows and tv they are starting to shift from the dark and techno aesthetics to the originals , you have Spidey and flash and iron man and Captain America and Ms Marvel all getting pretty comic accurate suits .
My take is: if a child can draw the essential design of the costume then it’s done right. I like mcu Spider-Man suits since despite their over design at times, it’s never too much I feel, it always feels like it’s just added detail. I can always imagine a kid drawing the essential elements of the suits. Cannot say the same about some Thor and cap suits
I honestly love both the MCU & Fortnite designs for Characters.
We can agree Spider-Man looks spectacular in fortnite but would you say it is the ultimate video game appearance?
I’ve actually never noticed Green Goblin’s skin’s eyes were actually different colors! This skin is even cooler now
This is why I love Fortnite, and have still been playing since chapter 1 season 3, their skin designs are beautiful and especially the marvel designs
Its pretty nice that they are giving comics more love than the MCU. The Daredevil suit looks like it is ripped straight from the Chip Zdarsky run that has been going on. Love it
im pretty sure because it is lol i was recently reading the comic and opened up fn a few days ago and the skin is almost 1:1 aside from maybe lighting but thats honestly just fortnite
Bro you can't do the same thing you do for an animation or comic as live action it just doesn't work
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You know I really agree on this but I don’t think we would agree on this for a long time because MC was going to release a fourth movie for Spider-Man Tom Holland and he’s gonna have the most comic accurate suit ever
The perfect Goblin suit would be The Raimi Goblin Suit with a Purple Hoodie it's sorta been done just without the mask
I'm disappointed you didn't speak of the chin strap for cap. It is one thing that I think cap needs because the chin hanging out always looks ridiculous.
1:11 costume looks fine here, because it’s military looking and makes sense for the character currently. I do agree that it lacks red and white though.
In terms in saturation, I’d be easier to shoot a guy in saturated clothing, plus battle damage, rolling around in dirt, and maybe even rewashing the suit, causing faded colors?
I also do love the scales on venom. It’s not my headcanon, because venom is a goopy symbiote. In agent venom, he has edges and armor sure, but even that bothers me.
The green goblin suit in fortnite is boring to me there’s also not as much green as I’d like there to be.
Still looks weird
I agree and the video hasn't even premiered yet
Literally spideys new suit is comic accurate and people still complained likebro yall are never happy
"Redesigns are bad except the ones I like"
Nah, more like redesigns are bad if they're desaturated and/or overdesigned
Unrelated but I wish the MCU's homemade suit actually looked like the Amazing Fantasy #15 suit
The one at the end of NWH does
I like venom with the red eyes… I thought it was inventive and at least exploring other potential ways to look cool. For Eddie Brock? Nah let’s not. For scorpion? Hell yeah dude
I fuc*ing love fortnite,not because of gameplay but because of how pretty the game looks and the emote musics and neat little events. it's just nice.
I totally agree with you, the mcu films would look much better with bright colors, I do enjoy the weird lines they make instead of just plain suits, I think it makes them look sort of more protective, but the colors are just a little off, and that's why I am excited to see the next movie of tom holland's spider man, cause in the post credits scene we see him with yet another outfit, but this one seems to be a lot more similar to the classic suit, and with bright colors too
Don't get me wrong, I really love the fortnite designs as much as anyone, but it's important to understand why they work. Fortnite is an extremely colorful game, so these outfits look perfectly natural, just like how they did in the old comics, which also had an extremely colorful style.
These same colors simply wouldn't work on a live-action setting, where they'd pop out like if it was a clown show, and not an actual action movie that tries to take itself seriously.
People need to understand that adaptation isn't just carrying over stuff from the comic into a movie. It's in the name. They need to adapt things so that they work better in the new medium. Sometimes, it feels like people advocating for stuff like this are more fueled by nostalgia than their actual tastes.
I'm mostly an outside spectator when it comes to all the marvel stuff, as I'm not really into it, so I'd like to believe that what I'm saying is without any bias towards either the comics or the movies. The truth is that the comic costumes would look absolutely awful in live-action, and so would the newer designs if they were in the comics.
I still like the MCU's Spidey (Civil War) suit, and the MCU's Spidey (Steve Ditko) suit.
Also, MCU's Dr. Strange's Suit is amazing! (Not MoM).
I think it's the mohawk that makes star lord look kinda goofy
i appreciate you used the updated mvc cap theme
Sir, with all do respect I believe the idea that fortnite has made unrealistic suits more realistic is absurd. Fortnite is very cartoony and exaggerated especially compared to live action adaptations.
Personally I love the MCU and Fortnites designs they are all cool
The MVC cap theme was a quality choice
I’ma be honest, at the end of No Way Home when we see Pete wearing his new classic suit I got so happy
I tend to disagree with the criticism of the MCU costumes being overdesigned, I actually think a lot of the MCU costumes are outstandingly great, but one thing is for sure. Fortnite's designs are absolutely top tier. One thing I'd like to point out about the MCU designs is the people who say they don't like all the vertical lines etc. That's a valid opinion, but I actually think that some people don't realize that the purpose of the vertical lines is to give the costume a slimming effect, which is a huge goal of superhero costume designers. That's why I think a lot of them are so masterfully designed.
I completely agree
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I think the classic Green Goblin is amazing! He looks like a goblin, and I love how it looks like a rubber Halloween costume
And dc. Supermans design in fortnite is like second best in all superman designs, injustice superman is just godly. The fortnite batman skin is really cool too.