I Was BANNED From Buying The $50,000 Guitar | 2022 Gibson Kirk Hammett Greeny Announced + Reactions
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📚 Description: Gibson finally announced the Kirk Hammett Greeny Les Paul as a Gibson Garage Exclusive that comes with an invitation for first-class airfare to the Greeny Launch Event and some semi-private tours of the Gibson garage and Custom shop. Gibson is actively not letting people with a history of reselling purchases purchase these "bundles." Oh well... I'll borrow one from someone to document one anyway.
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0:26 - Greeny History
1:47 - The Greeny Reissue, Info + Price
4:24 - The Experience of a Lifetime
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7:54 - The "Contract"
10:40 - It's a Reissue Reissue
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$50k is crazy money for a new guitar - but does the trip make it worthwhile? Let me know your thoughts!
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I think the trip and experience would have been fantastic! But at $20,000 for this I don’t think it would be worth it. I could fly around the world and go see Metallica in concert a few times for this price!
No.
I have to wonder if they just don’t want you making a video taking it all apart, finding all the flaws and at the end you declaring Gibson and Hammet are robbing people at 50k.
$50k is silly money for that, whether you're talking about the guitar or the optional package. The price makes no sense from any logical standpoint. It's also pretty lame that they straight up won't let you buy one. No one does more free Gibson marketing than you...
Small correction on the greeny neck pickup it's more than just the magnet being flipped. It was wound with formvar wire which I believe was fender strat stuff
I'd say that Gibson refusing to sell you a $3,500 guitar for $50,000 is a sign of respect.
They're probably scared of getting a "This isn't worth the money at all" review from Trogly.
@@odralebazerimar9084 that was my guess as well.
@@odralebazerimar9084 Exactly!
😂😂😂
3500 is an incredible stretch for any Gibson product
This isn't for you, Trogly. This is for regular, hard working Joes that can afford to spend 50k on a guitar!
Aka blooz lawyers
@@Lomni I did enjoy Trogly's slight dig at Bonamassa
@@mohamedtlass3842 I know if a lot of people that want Bonamassa's collection, but I don't know of anyone that wants to be him
Agreed
@@dboone7670 I do
It's shit like this that turns many Gibson lovers away from the brand, myself included.
What then can be said about famous painters and their paintings that reach millions, and the best example is Banksy and the price of his paintings, graffiti and other artists, it's just the way it is, whether we're angry or not, all the guitars will be sold, in the end it's Gibson's business
not selling to opportunists is a great move
@@rooster4906 painters don't get the big money for copies.
You can just buy the normal priced ones. The entire vintage market is for suckers. They're all buying replicas for stupid money.
Huge respect to Kirk for taking Greeny on the road. I remember a clip with him saying he actually meets fans of the guitar that have no desire to talk to him other than about the guitar.
Don’t understand how you can be fan of a guitar… I get it we love our guitars, but brin a fan of a guitar it’s something I don’t understand.
@@clos87okay
I was fortunate enough to meet Mr. Green when the original Mac was touring America, we were sharing a dressing room at a teen club north of Detroit. They were booked for two nights and the basement of the ski lodge, 'Silverbell' was a combination of staging area, dressing rooms and a flop house for musicians from Rochester Michigan courtesy of the promoter. Mr. Green was a real gentleman, asked if he could play my Stratocaster, and offered his Les Paul to me. He had the upper bout strap end screwed on, with a leather horse cinch belly strap. The strap a series had two holes in series for the horse buckle, you can see the strap on several 'Mac' vids from those days. The guitar was not nearly as beat up as it is now, played like silk but I didn't plug it in, we didn't have an amp in the dressing room. He played the show through a Fender Twin , we all sat down in front, all we little guitar dweebs. He blew our minds. Within a week I found an old horse cinch strap, and mounted it, still on my Strat. So casual, such a nice man, he was plugged in to the 'big juice,' a seer of things others cannot, could hear what others could not. Still a big hero, who never wanted to be,,,,,,,,,,,,,
What year/color is your Strat?
Cool story. 💚
What a story! That’s awesome man!
That sounds like such an amazing experience. A rare "good to meet your hero" moment.
Rob: WOW, I went to the old Silverbell Hideaway in the late 60's many times. Bob Seager on new years eve on a small riser 5" away, Steve Winwood Spencer Davis Group set up on the dance floor also everyone about 5-10' away. I missed Green I think
Gibson is extremely good at making really bad brand choices.
They make bad guitars in general.
All while Fender seems to be making the right ones.
Bad brand choices? The guy says in the video quite literally said that all of them were sold already. The stupidity of the 'Gibson sucks' circlejerk crowd on social media never ceases to amaze me.
not selling to this opportunist was good decision
I think they have knocked it out of the park... Models like Segio Vallin's and Dave Mustaine's gsignatures are a cash grab, because they hardly played Gibsons live, but I have seen this guitar in concert! It is a treat to see the most famous Les Paul touring the world.
I'd rather have a good luthier make me a greeny copy using old growth woods, find some authentic original pafs and still save about $30,000.
And it would be a far better quality instrument than anything Gibson can achieve these days.
*35,000. Isn't gibson stupid?
For $6k all day long too. They’d play 1000xs better too.
I have made a handful of good replicas. Using old wood but modern paf style pickups. A reputable builder would never charge $20 let alone $50k. But that's just me. I do have a nice tight flame maple top like a Greeny that I have saved for myself. 🤪
Heritage Guitars (I mean they are the original builders technically)? Another guy who never gets the kind of credit he deserves but is a phenomenal luthier is Terry McInturff. His shop is like 25 minutes away from me and he builds awesome guitars!! 😉
They don’t want Trogly to break down the guitar and show people that it’s just a $4000 custom shop model.
LMAO. Absolutely brother!
Don’t need a breakdown to already know that
Bingo. It's about selling the illusion to people with too much money and not enough taste.
@@anniedarkhorse6791I’d say not enough between the ears too
I think that's the real truth!
Wow. Kinda unreal for Gibson to treat Trogly that way. He’s one of their biggest cheerleaders. Did they have Mark Agnesi deliver the bad news in a video? That isn’t a good look.
I guess he's just not playing authentically enough!
I'm sure they'll sell him one once the 10 people who actually want to pay full price get one and the other 40 are collecting dust...
LOL, funny
All EQs at Noon with just a touch of reverb........................
That kind of backstabbing would make me never want to buy a new Gibson product again. I wouldn't give them another dime of my money.
Yeah, I’ve defended Gibson for many of their unpopular decisions (like the dean lawsuit) but this is just downright ungrateful. Trogly is not just one of the biggest advocates for Gibson , he is one of the only advocates in the guitartuber sphere. Even if trogly intended to sell it, they should have made an exception for him.
It would 🐝 enough for me to not buy another Gibson honestly
For me, the Greeny is all about Peter Green and Gary Moore. The price of this is just excessive.
amen , metalica did a cover of whiskey in the jar that was just plain offensive
It's the Peter Green/Gary Moore Les Paul. Kirk may have bought it, but (at least in my eyes) it's never going to be the Green/Moore/Hammett Les Paul. I could win the lottery and buy one of Jimi Hendrix's guitars, but that wouldn't suddenly make it the Hendrix/Lee Strat.
100% of the people who will buy this guitar are just doing it to try and resell it for more later, plus one or two goofballs with too much spening money. Everything about this is absolutely ridiculous. "I spent 50 grand to eat spaghetti with a hundred other dudes, and one of them is in Metallica! Rock N' Roll!!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽"
You know they already released this as collectors choice #1
For me it's about Peter Green . I'm not surprised by the price tbh. It's aimed at rich collectors that hang them on the wall rather than players, so is priced accordingly. Gibson make plenty of other more affordable Les Pauls for regular people to actually play .
We all know that it is not worth that money, today is not like before, there are top guitar makers and they are more than capable of making such and even better guitars that look 100% like the original Gibson and much better and certainly the price would not be 50,000 $, if this is true, the witness is the Gibson replica '59, which was built by a top craftsman, unfortunately today the late luthier Kris Derrig, the guitar was brought by Slash's manager when they were recording the legendary masterpiece Appetite For Destruction, we also know that Gibson took that guitar and made an original Gibson based on it, this story says it all, I'll repeat it, the guitar is certainly not worth that much money, but that's not the point, unfortunately it's not even intended for mortals, but for rich people and collectors, and of course I'm sure it will sell out quickly because they is only 50 pieces, for comparison, some paintings by famous painters are also not worth insane amounts of money, but we are witnesses that they are still worth it and that rich people buy them, rich people like to have such things and that is normal but Gibson runs his business the way he wants and it must be admitted that they are doing great, ok, all this makes some people angry, because guitars should be played, I agree, but who are we to judge how and on what someone will spend money and what will he do with the guitar, in the end I'm personally glad that Gibson made this, madness, three top guitarists, three legends, Peter Green & Gary Moore & Kirk Hammett, Gibson Greeny Les Paul 1959 !!! 👍👍👍
It’s pretty simple, Gibson doesn’t want this guitar re-sold, he mentions it several times in the video.
Sure there’s no binding contract, but that’s why they just refused to sell one to Trogly in the first place.
Gibson doesn’t like the 2nd-hand market selling their guitars for more than they do.
They also don’t want trogly pulling it apart and showing under a microscope all the reasons it’s not worth 50k.
I was lucky enough to walk into a store here in Ireland and see hanging on the wall a Tokai Love Rock identical to the Green/Moore Les Paul. I bought it immediately, brought it home, changed the tuners, flipped the neck pickup up magnet and hey presto, I had my dream guitar. I love it. I’ve had guys offer to swap me genuine Les Pauls for it but I will never part with it and I will never mess with the headstock logo.
Banned you? Insane.
I wish I didn't have to dislike Gibson so much, they have such great history, it's a real shame how poorly they treat it. Jeez.
They are a shadow of the company they once were.
They're a disgraceful company to be completely honest. I know every time I say that, I find like 3 Gibsons I lust after, but if I had to gig with them or something, I'd cover the names up on the headstocks out of pure spite.
I'm still bitter over the whole Dean/Armadillo affair. How are you gonna neglect two of your most important and historic models (Flying V and Explorer) and then personally seek out to hurt one company who has done a damn good job of creating V and Explorer-inspired guitars for 40+ years while you've just created lame production models and unattainable custom models the whole time? Fuck that.
Ultimately at the end of the day though I'm more drawn to Fender and Fender-esque designs. Leo had the formula right for a working man's guitar.
@@jetcheneau5811 Which is why if you look at a lot of gear notes, a lot of people known for playing Les Pauls recorded the song with a Telecaster
Fenders are much more practical instruments, there no denying that. Many of the artists who popularized Gibson have since switched over.
Aside from the practical design, I just feel better about supporting Fender. You can see them try new things and reach out to new artists, and it seems to be working for them. Very few young acts pick up expensive Gibsons over the variety of modern Fenders.
Epiphone is becoming a worthy competitor to Squier, but the big brands view and treat their customer base quite differently.
Ridiculous. A desperate ploy by a company that hasn’t had an original idea in 50 years.
I have been fortunate enough to see both Peter Green and Gary Moore play live, for me I only associate this guitar with Gary, he had it way longer than anybody else and really put it to work! He was the best! I would love to see it find it's way back to Jack where I think it should be!
True....back to Jack Moore...thats richt
Love this guitar! I own the Vintage V100 "Lemon drop" Peter green/Gary moore version. Vintage makes a pretty good les paul for the money imo. I do like the outta phase position. This guitar came with a factory relic finish but i added some of my own touches to it and the hardware. Looks pretty cool now, but its the way it plays and sounds. Very authentic "greeny" sound i think. The nickel silver pickup covers help with the tone too a little imo. But for only $649 its the closest i will ever get to a "greeny"! Lol... Rock on!!
I’d love to see one of Kirk’s custom shop ESP’s make it onto the channel. My first guitar was a LTD KH-202.
I'm not even a big Metallica fan, but I always thought his Ouija Board ESP was really cool back when I'd see it in guitar shops.
ESP guitars are brilliant! And the LTD’s aren’t far behind!
@@terrypussypower In my opinion the Japanese ESP M-II was one of the worst guitars I've played. I was gutted because I had my heart set on one but when I played it I was really disappointed. Bought an Ibanez instead. That felt like it was worth the price.
Y'all need to look at the Japanese market ESPs to see where it really gets crazy! I imported my Snapper-7 Ohmura Custom from Japan, it's the best guitar I've ever owned! It's my first custom shop guitar and I gotta say, ESP has a customer for life now. I've always been an ESP fanboy because my favorite guitarists play them but now I know why, brilliant guitar. Shame you rarely see ESPs though on guitar channels, especially the Japanese ones. Even E-IIs aren't common.
@@JohnDoeWasntTaken Importing an Edwards is also a great way to go if you’re on a budget, Japanese guitars are just great.
There is not a guitar on this planet that is worth 50,000 dollars to me.. I don’t care who owned it or made it..
That's exactly what my son will say when he sees this.
I 100% agree. And yet people are apparently now paying $200,000 for 1960 bursts and $300,000 for 1959 bursts. Utter madness.
@@darwinsaye Surely “59s” go from 1958-1961, because that was when they started using kiln seasoned timber.
@@SvenTviking I’m just referencing what they said on Emerald City Guitars yesterday. The player-grade ‘60 he was demoing was $200,000, but he said it would be almost twice that for a clean ‘59.
Yes and especially solid body electric guitars....i would say even anyone paying over 1000 bucks for one is seriously overpaying.....ad men convinced the public that solid body electrics are like acoustic guitars or violins.....utterly ridiculous.
To be honest, I love the work of the guys involved and everything, but I am not paying 50k to see them. I am not a sucker for celebrities or important people, I think all of them are people like me.
BTW I'm pretty sure the footage of Moore in this is from the final Montreaux show long after sold the original but after Gibson had done the collectors edition replica which is what he's playing in that footage.
One more step from gibson tryin to become a fancy lifestyle brand for rich people. Do you want to show of your Rolex, your porsche or your gibson to your rich buddys...
And yet Epiphone provides a better looking and just as capable guitar for less...
And then to top it off the guy doesn't even play........
Gibson is about the same ilk as Rolex. They have people lined up around the block waiting to drop 50 grand on a watch worth maybe 5. Same thing, here. At least the Rolex will look like its new.
My Grandfather had the luck of seeing Peter Green play in london back in 1967 in a small outdoor pub when he was still with the bluesbreakers. My grandfather said he cranked the hell out of his marshall amp he was using at that gig. Peter was so loud yet so delicate and precise it was an incredible thing to experience and his vocal talents were also incredible. I'm sure many of you who watch Trogly have never heard Peter Green play or heard his songs, check out the the bluesbreakers hard road album and the first 3 fleetwood mac albums, i think you will appreciate how much of a great musician he was and how impossibly great his tone was. He without a doubt is one of the hardest guitarists to emulate as his use of dynamics was otherworldly. It's tragic that his immense talent was puffed out early in his career due to schizophrenia. He still stands as one of the greatest blues guitarists of all time which in such a short career says a lot.
You’re a snob stuck in the past. “Many of you have never…” maybe don’t assume things about people, alright?? I’ve heard these albums, good for your grandfather.
A 1967 ☆ that's my year. BORN in the U S A.
long time fan of Fleetwood Mac
Good for Gibson! It’s resellers that rip off the little guy! You guys would have bought all these guitars and resell them for 60 grand! Cheers to Gibson!
meh...for 50 grand I could get an Alex Lifeson Axxess, a decent Strat, Tele AND a good Marshall amp.
Besides, I would've rather met Peter & Gary instead of Kirk anyway.
To be fair, Kirk is a cool dude even if you don't like his band or playing.
Ok, want a cookie or something? Who cares lol
And still have 40k left over. It’s ridiculous
Rip peter
@@zackarysmith2222 you got cookies? I'll take one.
Hasn't taken long for Gibson to become a little or a lot arrogant again. Be careful Gibson, covid years were not normal, sales were incredible, but the newer guitar players generally aren't picking up a gibson. Don't burn us again with arrogance!
When was Gibson ever "not" arrogant?
Newer guitar players can’t afford a Gibson 🤣
“Newer” guitar players will start casting their eye around at more traditional models as they get older - it’s inevitable.
Nothing more stupid than seeing a 30+ year old playing a pointy neon green monstrosity - even professionally it looks stupid.
@@Wargasm54 New guitar players are far more interested in Schecter and Ibanez because their hero's play them, there must be relatively few 14yr olds into Slash
Gibson garage is a awesome place. Was their a few months ago. Had kids and their parents walking up to me asking for autographs. Had to break their bubble I’m not a famous guitarist. Just cause I’m all tatted up and was jamming on guitars. One family wouldn’t take no that I wasn’t a famous guitarist so I had to take a pic with their 12 year old son lmao. I could live in the Gibson garage.
I’m a gibson fan. That ban is still outrageous. I’ll be buying a strat for my next axe, and I’m putting that on record.
I love both, BUT I think Fender is missing the boat versus Gibson on not having their own version of the Mod Collection or the Demo Shop. If Fender did that, I would be hooked!!
@@schnellergeist why would they do that when fenders are designed to be modular as is? They’ve given you everything you need to do it yourself so them doing a mod shop offers no value to anyone.
@@oneeyedlittleman I'm talking more about custom finishes and art guitar paint jobs. And plus its a way they can sell their factory seconds, demos, and allow their builders a chance to have fun with the instruments. PLUS it is an attention grabber. Go to the Mod Collection release on Gibson's site every Wednesday. They get so much traffic the site basically shuts down. Fender is missing out
@@schnellergeist fender does have a mod shop?
Or maybe a prs instead?
Greetings all
@Hivoltage1999 Hey there Highvoltage1999.
Well darn, no Greenie for me.......................
Greetings HK. A great day for a Trogly Show.
WTF...I'm kinda hurt Gibson did Trogly dirty...
Common Gibson, this man is a True Gibson Appreciator.
I suspect there's no binding contract term because that would be unenforceable. I don't think it's legal to impose restrictions on the first sale doctrine - once an item is sold, the manufacturer has no further rights to that item.
-Selling reissue for a price of a true vintage
-Have to pay upfront
-Skipping retailers
-Banning resellers
-"we don't sell the experience" in other words avoiding taxes
-and once you got one you're not allowed to sell the guitar
This is just insane even by Gibson standard.
It's Ferrari dealership practices tbh
if youre not " allowed" to sell it...its not yours is it..lol
Yeah the price is ridiculous but it is legitimately stupid that they won't let Trogly buy one. Fuck Gibson.
Yeah, fuck Gibson.
FIFTY THOUSAND!!?? WTFF!!?? What's the point of making a Greeny model and then putting the price so high!?? Only the rich will own one!!
It was fun to hear about the release of this instrument, even though I have zero
Interest in owning such a beast.
I recently found out that Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac feature as the backing band on my great uncle Gordon Smith’s blues LP from way back in the 1960s - pretty cool stuff
I am certainly no lawyer, but I worked with very expensive/potentially collectable cars for a long time. Several manufacturers who will go unnamed (except for Ford.....I'll name them....but they were not alone.) tried to legally prevent buyers from reselling their cars. Although there are apparently some cases still being litigated in various states, so far it's not going well for the manufacturers. The problem is, they did not sell these cars to regular folks, but to pretty well-known celebrities, who have the financial wherewithal to battle these jokers in court....
Stay tuned, but Gibson these days seems to spend a ton of money on lawyers, and likely discovered that even a couple of lingering lawsuits could suck all the profit out this lunatic-friendly $50,000 a unit endeavor.
Plus, they treated you rudely....you have probably done more than anybody to educate the market and grow their brand! Boo!
I could be wrong, but it’s my understanding that those collectible car buyers signed documents agreeing not to sell them within a specified time frame. How could the manufacturers’ legal teams be so inept as to create a document that wouldn’t hold up in court?
I'm not that stupid. I love Les Pauls,but I live on my sailboat in Tampa Bay, so guitar strings last a week,but even so... $50,000 ? Nah... Oh,and what's the deal guitar blocking Trogley 🚫 ? Kinda d**k move. Capt.Bob ,SV (Sailing Vessel) 27th Chance, Tampa Fl, USA 🇺🇸
Hey Trogly, great show as always. As I watch your video and make my own researches, I keep discovering burst colors I didn't know (such as the tiger burst which seems to appear on only one limited run). Do you think you could make an episode dedicated to all the different burst shades, or even all LP colors ? I bet that would make a great show 😉
I honestly don’t get why Gibson would just flat-out ban you from buying the guitar, you do a lot of great promotion for their stuff so this just seems ridiculous
He's a flipper, that's why lol
@@andrewrigney5888 Why would they care? As long as Gibson gets their $$. Not like they're going to hit poverty level anytime soon
@@heathenwarrior2522 Because no company likes it when unrelated third parties make money off of their product.
Yeah but he gives them basically free advertising too
@@Tigermaster1986 isn't that what the business is about?
Gibson has just made a whopping 2,500,000…people will buy anything 😳
Probably 1.500.000 in expenses, so they will be lucky if they make 1m on this project. Which is not much for a big company like this. More of a promotional value, I think.
@@bloxa no way, these cost fuck all to build lol
@@cameronmason4452 1st class airfare for over 100 people, 4-star hotel accommodations for over 100 people, food budget for over 100 people, etc. etc... all inclusiveness adds up FAST. It's not just the price of the wood and labor.
It is an insult to put his name in the same sentence as Peter Green and Gary Moore.
IT's also that the Neck was rewired with Strat gauge wire... which i wonder if they did for the run.
TBH, Resellers should always be banned from buying limited products. They just keep pushing prices that are already high enough.
I completely agree, and it’s also big problem with concert tickets, too.
I went to a concert last week. I bought my tickets as soon as they went on sale back in late June or early July. There were three price levels: $56, $76, and $96 at a venue that seats about 2,400 people. It sold out of face value tickets in less than 30 minutes. The website was so jacked up when tickets first went on sale that it didn’t even have a seating chart so you would know where the seats were that they were offering you. I picked the $96 tickets and hoped for the best.
After I got through with the insanely long checkout process I logged back into the site to see if they had put up a seating chart yet, and to see if any tickets were left. The only tickets still available were reseller tickets that now ranged in price from $140-400. On a good note, my seats were in the center of the second row less than 10ft from the stage.
For anyone who doesn’t understand why the price is so high, ever notice how every time Gibson releases an awesome limited edition guitar they always sell immediately for more money on reverb. That means Gibson didn’t charge a high enough price and could’ve got more money. That’s why they’ve been getting more and more expensive. In an attempt to reach the equilibrium price to match supply and demand. They want multimillionaires buying these things. Not us
...and yet it's the mass market that makes them the bucks ...shitty behaviour
@@nlumby they sell guitars already for the mass market. quit whining
Gibson manipulates reissues when they can devalue previous reissues. Perfect example is the Scott Moore release from a year ago. Price was increasing rapidly so this reissue knocks that down in value. The game with the mod shop is like a place for the problem child and someone will pay more than it's worth. Sorry but Gibson has no sense of history or heritage. That sign being sold should be reissued.
@@sixslinger9951 - Though flawed FAR too often. No wonder Slash’s #1 was a Kris Derrig… AND he bought it for around $2500 - which is now, $6500. Can a $6500 LP straight from the factory be flawed. As much as I love LPs, the answer is -- yes.
Derrig’s were flawless.
@@sixslinger9951 They really don't though. No bit of history justifies the over inflated prices. Plus the competition on the market speaks for itself, hardly any rational musician is still considering a Gibson these days. It used to be all I wanted as a beginner guitarist was Adam Jones silverburst LP, and now that they're available and I have way more knowledge on the gear available on the market its simply unjustifiable. Even with the money to do so I just can't find it in me to order one when there's so many better alternatives. You can see this trend in many musicians from my generation onward. Gibson is eventually gonna become a pickup manufacturer sooner than later and maybe make super limited runs in a custom shop. Then you have the QC in recent years and it's like why would you even want to run the risk with Gibson when you could get multiple amazing guitars or something custom for nearly the same price.
Fender, Ibanez, Schecter, etc. sell guitars for the masses. Gibson makes mid tier hit or miss guitars for millionaires, established musicians, and bozos fixated on their favorite band using les pauls enough to get one overpriced guitar. I say this as someone that as a teenager would go to guitar center nearly every day just to try out les pauls. I have NEVER played on one that comes close to justifying its price, not one out of hundreds.
And the funny part is I bet I can find a lot of other guitars out there for 2000 that played just as good as that $50,000 guitar I've been very underwhelmed with every Gibson I've played over the years and I'm one of their biggest fans
Great Job! Looking forward to seeing you get your hands on one of these...
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I got to work on the photoshoot for this guitar and got to hold and play it. I haven’t seen the original obviously, but it is an unbelievable reissue guitar.
forcing them to not sell something as a condition of purchase was determined to be an unenforceable clause in many states, possibly even in a federal court. A pro wrestler bought a 600Kdollar sportscar that the manufacturer said they could sell for x-years, but he flipped it. The manufacturer sued and lost.
Not sure if that was a federal precedent established or just a state law issue...
Yes!!!! I’ve been wanting for this one, but not at that price.
That’s way too much money for a brand new guitar. You could buy a guitar and customize it exactly for a fraction of that price.
Yup you can buy a Vintage V100PGM (the JHS copy) for £400-£500 and just upgrade it like crazy without selling the house
Get an amp too head/cab and pedal-board. All that money could go towards DAW upgrades too..
Could buy a big CNC machine and make a run of them
Resale prices get that high on the used market. Gibson got a little extra greedy and decided they didn’t want outsiders “taking” potential profits from them. So they set the price so high that you would never be able to to make a profit reselling. To me, this seems like a sign of the beginning of the end for the current Gibson regime.
You could probably get the highest end custom guitar builders on the planet to build you 10 exact replicas for that money.
Gibson is the new Tulip Mania.
Anybody out there know where Gatemouth Brown's leather tooled Gibson is?
I get that you want it, it's what you do and it's why all of us here love your videos. I'm just curious about the kind of review that you're gonna do. Obviously, it's gonna be a great guitar, on par or over top "regular" Gibson custom guitars, but what will there be to say? I'd fancy a "KH limited edition" vs "Greenie Customer's Choice Reissue", to understand what difference we are seeing here (especially on the bench, no doubt both will sound fantastic).
About pricing, well they sold out in a day, cashed in 2.5MM, so i guess the price was right :)
I think Kirk is the PERFECT guy to own this guitar. He is a true music fan and plays the thing. It's not sitting in a showcase at the Hard Rock.
Strange that Gibson singled you out like that. I bought 2 guitars after watching your videos. They must know that you help their sales right? I'll never understand that company.
It amazes me a guitar can be sold at a ridiculous price if it contains certain words. Vintage, signature, limited,custom shop. My friend worked at fender Fullerton and we used to stop by at lunch or after work. Actually spoke to Leo a few times. We used to grab necks from the trash and sword fight. They used to toss a lot of things in the trash back then. I was fortunate I had friends who worked at fender and charvel. I also visited Karl Sandoval house a few times. During one visit I checked out Randy's polka-dot v in the build stage. It's a shame gary had to sell the guitar to pay for missed tour dates
This is unrelated but I wanted to ask the Troglydytes, Has anyone ever coil split P100s and do they sound like P90s after? I have a nice Gibson ES135 with two P100s which are alright, but I was wondering. Pete
Maybe they are afraid Trogly would give it a honest review and demo and really tell the truth about the quality of the guitar 🤣
So they make $2.5M selling this guitar.
They pay out $1M for the 100 trips + hotel stays + hammett's fee + R&D..
Then they pocket $1.5Mish - If they can do that 5-10x a year with different artist models that's a solid formula.
I had to return my brand new limited edition Johnny Marr jaguar In yellow fever .. for Finish issues in the nitro .. they can’t replace or refin it apparently
I do not understand why a tiny fb of brw adds such a insane amount to the pricetags. I have seen several different custom boutique builders and other stuff like prs,lsl ect.. with brw tops and or solid brw necks and fb with less than a tenth of the price
Crossing my fingers you can get your hands on one because the original is such a legend
This just in!!! Gibson moves all production facilities to Martha's Vineyard!
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Tom used to come into my guitar shop once in a while back in the day. He's from here in southern IL, but I don't know if he's still around here or actually lives in Nashville now. At one time, he was doing his work for Gibson from his place here in IL. Nice guy, was always fun when he'd come in.
Rumour has it Green had problems with the Rhythm pickup, so he took it to a Tottenham Court Road electrical repair shop (not a guitar shop), who re-wired it with the sort of wire you wire plugs with and put it in back to front. Green liked the sound so he kept it like it.
All I play is Gibson but how they conduct themselves sometimes makes me want a prs ha
I don’t even know what’s going on over there sometimes, they get a lot of hate nowadays, I just wanna see them do right. With massive price increases at fender and lay off there, it seems like a good time for Gibson so do something really cool. I saw buckethead recently and the Gibson logo is blacked out on his Les Paul.
Why would he cover their Logo? I own a few Gibsons, I would never cover the Logo...???
@@davem62290 My guess, I don't think he wants anything to do with the business or the culture around them. People do put WAYYY too much focus on the headstock, but It's a shame, his signature is one of the best things Gibson did in the 21st Century.
So what’s up with the pickups and wiring?
If someone in the future sells theirs for a profit Gibson would sue for a percentage.
Gibson lost a customer for life. That’s the final straw. That’s bullshit banning you from purchasing. I’m going to assume they don’t want you telling people it’s not worth the asking price!
It’s Dean and ESP custom shops from here on out!
I’m sure Gibson is going to miss you. Everyone knows for a guitar it’s not worth 50,000. It’s a guitar. But it’s just like a Picasso that sells for over 100 million. In the end it’s just paint on paper. But it’s art and inspiring, and there aren’t that many out there. Nothing wrong if you think it’s too expensive. There are other people that think it’s worth it.
wow 50,000 dollar and no sculpted neck joint and modern electronics? no deal
Gary Moore was playing a P90 Gold Top when I saw him with Thin Lizzy in 77. I'm sure it was a vintage Paul. I'm not sure what year he got it.
So next year will be Jimmy Page, year after is Billy Gibbons, so on and so on. i love the idea the price tag on the other hand is INSANE.
Gibson is clearly using the luxury car market as a road map here, ferrari has been offering stuff like this for years, the FXX program where you dont even take the car home u have to fly to italy to drive it. This will filter down to the other brands fender will be offering a trip to meet (insert strat player here) in the next couple of years.
i do think the coolest thing gibson could do to some of signature guitars is make USA versions. it would be cool to get a PG,Jimmy Page, beano, duane allman or what have u at a reasonable price and maybe only focus on the BIG reasons its a signature, pages wiring, the Duane in frets on the body, pearly gates overwound bridge PAF, beanos plain top slim neck. could be a cool concept
Trying to make a quick 2.5 mil and acting like resellers are a problem?
wtf gibson?
When you do get your hands on it, do a shoot out with the Gary Moore LP if you can, would be interesting to see em side by side
This is how the marketing conversation played out in the boardroom.
"Ok we sold them the Slash "Brazilian Dream" for $13K and he's only on artist. We now have the opportunity to sell "three" signature artists in one guitar.
3 artist signature (3x$13k)+ Murphy lab work + profit = $50k"
Trogly I can't believe Gibson won't let you purchase one of these! For all the advertising you do for them and promoting you think they would do the right thing and let you have dibs on one if you wanted. I think it's neat that they're offering this model but come on $50,000 is way too much money in my opinion. I guess if you're rich and money is no object and you want the closest thing to a replica or something like that but there's no way the average person would be able to afford one of these.
12 would be more in range to be honest like a true historic
Guitars are worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for them and sadly, some people will spend the money. They could get $100k for them if they wanted. Just unvarnished greed.
Right, high end things like this are not for your average person. That's correct.
He's definitely thing to resale it
Well clearly these guitars are not for the “average people”, they’re for collectors that actually have money and there’s a lot more of those people than the majority of the people who complain about the price think
I mean Trogly’s pretty much a flipper so I don’t blame them at all for banning him lol
It won't totally keep people from flipping them, but it'll help. And that's the point people are missing.
I came here to say the same thing. Flipping artificially increases prices in the market. You see it with house flippers, guitar flippers. I have seen too many guitars from Gibson’s Reverb page purchased, and listed within days by flippers for considerably more money than it was on Gibson’s page.
Gibson can draw up whatever “contract” they want to. And they can tell you not to sell the guitar even. But that doesn’t mean anything really. Even if it’s something you signed.
Take that “contract” to any lawyer and they’d laugh at it. It means as much as the contracts businesses are making employees sign saying they can’t discuss what they’re paid with other employees. That’s not enforceable. That’s just lawyers making up a contract for a company and making it sound like it’s official and serious. But in the end, legally speaking, a company can’t tell you what you can talk about. Just like they can’t tell someone who already owns something they sold them, what they can do with that. No matter how many contracts they make you sign, it’s not enforceable. It’s barely something that could even be argued in court. And a real lawyer would have a field day with some pieces of paper a company makes you sign telling you what you can do with your own guitar.
No doubt you would be dead to Gibson though after something like that! LOL. That is something they most definitely can do if they wanted. Just freeze you out. But that’s all they could do. They couldn’t get you into legal trouble though.
I cannot imagine paying 5k for a new guitar, yet alone 50 grand
This epitomises the expression “selling out”
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The whole thing sucks from the perspective of a normal working person that plays guitar. But hey if you allow Gibson to do it, and purchase this package it’s your own fault. Thanks for educating us Troglodytes
If you want a working mans guitar buy a Fender!
Peter Green … great player! Gary Moore … great player . Kirk Hammett … great wah wah user
Kirk may have inspired more kids to pick up the guitar than Peter and Gary combined, he can't be dismissed
There's exclusivity, and then there's the sort of snobbishness that upsets potential customers and hurts reputations. Guess which one I think this is. Go ahead.
You mean the same type of policies that Ferrari has with their customers? Seems to be working ok for them...
The customers themselves are snobs. They don't want some random middleman touching their precious 50k guitar when they could buy it direct from Gibson.
Shame on Gibson 😔
Why don't they put Greedy on the headstock?
That Gary Moore custom shop you mentioned is going for $47k on Reverb lol. Really looking forward to your review of these when you do finally get one.
I really like the way that guitar looks and I usually dont like aged guitars. But if I was going to spend 50 grand on Guitars I'd get like 7 or 8 not one
If i was you i would tell gibson to go to hell i would be done with them
Great video once again Mr T I have to say this whole Gibson reissue has got way out of hand. I was lucky enough to have Terry Morgan build me a 59 replica a few years ago and honestly I wouldn’t bother with any Gibson stuff these days
tbh I'm glad they're not sending them to resellers. Like think about it, all these people do is snatch up the guitars immediately then once they're all gone, the turn around and sell it for an even more jacked up price. They treat guitars like world series tickets. And Gibson keeps their business thriving by making these absolutely ridiculous guitars that are super limited, they know they will all sell out immediately and be flipped.
Kirk Hammet? What a shame.
LOL, my thoughts also
Praises the brand, makes a lot of videos, keeps the hype up.
Awarded with a ban.
that will always be gary moore’s les paul to me. love seeing him with that guitar and he made it sing best in my opinion
I wonder if Kirk hammet will retire the og into a vault , then use one of the new custom shop models on tour , Adam Jones did this and now with the standard