I studied with a gentleman who knew Buddy very well--they were good friends. This guy was also a pro and great in his own right. One time he told me, "it's not Buddy's solos...it's what he does with the band...." And I think this performance is a prime example of that. He drives the band, and hits everything as it goes by in a split second. Wow, this is hot.
That unbelievable left hand! Buddy was not about bouncing it along, he controlled every stroke of those doubles and triplets in his left hand. I'm working on 50 years playing and still cannot get his speed or endurance. The greatest natural talent on the drum set in the history of the world.
Crap...I did not know that was Belson on the kit behind him....man what talent...and this was on network television....crazy...how many people watching that night had any idea what they were witnessing....crazy to think about in today's terms...
Look at how enthusiastically Jack Webb is clapping as buddy comes back to his chair. Webb was a huge Jazz fan, and he had to be having a blast sitting next to Buddy and watching him play with the band. What a great performance, too!
Two of the absolute best drummers who ever lived: Buddy Rich (playing), while Louie Belson looks on. Belson was one of the first drummers to use a two-bass drum set.
Yes, and Louie also did some experimenting with Roto-toms, I believe. He had a pretty massive setup, but even that setup pales to what Neil Pert had. Jeez. Amazing what Buddy could do with a minimal setup.
I love the way Louie Belson was watching from behind his kit. he looked like he was really getting into it these guys really admired each other and it always shows whenever they work together a beautiful thing to see. Another great post thank you! Bob M.
This is the performance I watched with my father that started it all for me, although at the time I was 9 years old, however, this same year on my birthday I had my very own set of drums in the exact configuration and they were a burgandy/maroon or wine red, not slingerland mine were Rogers. Fast forward 30yrs and the legacy continued, except the kit was bigger, same color and even monogrammed with my initals, TJG Paradiddle diddle flamacue ruff ruff Many many thanks for posting this video. May God bless you and be safe ✌😇💜
Side note, Jack Webb was a true jazz lover. When he died, he had what was considered the largest personal collection of jazz recordings. I would love to see the interview with him before Buddy came on. I wonder if he and Johnny discussed Buddy and if so, what Jack had to say about him.
There are thousands of jazz record collectors with big amount of records inside... But most of the time those collections are based on quantity and not quality... I'm proud that this is not my code
I believe this one is already posted on UA-cam. Thank you for taking the time to upload it though. Priceless music. Looking forward to seeing more. These old Carson shows were fascinating.
Roger Hn it may be. I was going through one of my BR Carson dvds and this was the only clip that I wasn’t positive is on UA-cam. I have several more disks to go through and should have more to post.
Buddy once said these old guys would come in off the golf course and read the charts like the Sunday paper. That's why he liked the young Berkely kids.
I have a photo of my lifelong friends dad who happened to be Scotland's greatest jazz drummer his name was George McGowan, he's standing between Belson and Rich, all posing for the picture Buddy knew of George through other musicians and referred to him as "The Whizz Kid from Glasgow" They finally met at a concert in Newcastle in 1982.
Whoa, not only Buddy, but notice Louis Bellson is sitting in with the band? I saw both drummers with their bands many times, and one time saw them both with their bands. The drum battle was epic!
The drums are miked better on this clip. A lot of the Carson BR stuff sounds like coffee cans. The band played well on a more challenging one time read. The Slingerlands sound good and BR seems inspired by LB.
@Katie Bernier It’s an old song called My Buddy. You can hear it on UA-cam performed by various artists. I just found a version sung by Bing Crosby from 1941 here on UA-cam.😊
9:04 sounds like the horn section fell asleep. Obviously Buddy noticed right away. If that were his own band they would have caught holy hell about it for sure on break.
Buddy leaned on it all the way after the perfect killer intro. However, no need of it with Doc's band, but he did it anyway. I prefer the studio version of "Machine" from the album, "The New One" recorded in 1966 and released in 1967.
Good help is hard to find. I am sure those guys could not have cared less--yes, it happens with professionals all of the time. You can tell Buddy was pissed. Now you know why he was psychotic with his young guys, and why he used young guys.
I’m a female trumpet player in a big band and as uncomfortable as it is to hear Buddy’s assessment of girl players - I think it’s from the heart. If there was a player who played with the same intensity, the same musicianship and was a female, I think he may have done it. It’s hard and there aren’t many. Lots of reasons but it’s hard work. We are getting there- look at the military bands, they hire and promote on the basis of talent.
Yeah, Buddy's standards were REALLY high. Most musicians, regardless of gender, couldn't come close to hacking it in his band. If you could make it in Buddy's band you were among the best of the best. Back then there were very few women musicians good enough to play in Buddy's band, but that's not a slight on women musicians - there just weren't as many playing back then. The numbers were against them. But I do think if a woman came in and kicked ass and showed that she was a world class talent Buddy would have given her a spot in his band (when there was a seat open).
When it comes to blind auditions, I'd agree with you. But promotions? Don't kid yourself. Back when this Tonight Show was taped, even then, promotions were based on factors including making sure that "diversity" was a force to be reckoned worth. And it's gotten orders of magnitude worse today. Signed, a retired military musician.
A little off-topic, perhaps, but here goes. One thing about the audio and mixing of Doc's band here on YT is the predominance of the bass trombone. Seems a bit much -- NOT THAT I'M COMPLAINING! LOL. I'm a bass trombonist as well, and well, the instrument can be overwhelming. Especially with charts like Buddy programs. These guys may have run the chart down once that afternoon, and they kill it during taping. Monster readers. Except for Buddy, of course. He just knows the chart.
"she's gotta be beautiful" kinda disappointing to hear him say that. talent alone should be enough. as someone who had a daughter who also pursued music, what kind of message is that to send? it wasn't even a joke, or maybe I'm missing something.
Buddy said it himself -- as probably the sole female on the band, she FRONTS the band. Just the way it was, especially back then. Don't kid yourself -- music is as much VISUAL as it is AURAL, as disgusting as that sounds. That's why we have so many talentless musician wannabes cashing in big when regular guys scamper from gig to gig. In the classical world, there are plenty of beautiful musicians who kick ass on their instruments. Not so much in the jazz world, especially then.
I studied with a gentleman who knew Buddy very well--they were good friends. This guy was also a pro and great in his own right. One time he told me, "it's not Buddy's solos...it's what he does with the band...." And I think this performance is a prime example of that. He drives the band, and hits everything as it goes by in a split second. Wow, this is hot.
That unbelievable left hand! Buddy was not about bouncing it along, he controlled every stroke of those doubles and triplets in his left hand. I'm working on 50 years playing and still cannot get his speed or endurance. The greatest natural talent on the drum set in the history of the world.
Crap...I did not know that was Belson on the kit behind him....man what talent...and this was on network television....crazy...how many people watching that night had any idea what they were witnessing....crazy to think about in today's terms...
Look at how enthusiastically Jack Webb is clapping as buddy comes back to his chair. Webb was a huge Jazz fan, and he had to be having a blast sitting next to Buddy and watching him play with the band. What a great performance, too!
Two of the absolute best drummers who ever lived: Buddy Rich (playing), while Louie Belson looks on. Belson was one of the first drummers to use a two-bass drum set.
good story bro
Yes, and Louie also did some experimenting with Roto-toms, I believe. He had a pretty massive setup, but even that setup pales to what Neil Pert had. Jeez. Amazing what Buddy could do with a minimal setup.
Incredible play and unsurpassed. Nobody can play like Buddy
The first time I got to see Buddy play.. I audio taped it on my little cassette recorder, and listened to it about 3000 times. Thank you yet again!
Belson said Buddy could walk into an empty room and start an argument. 😄
Loved their playing. Outstanding.
Thank you so much for sharing these priceless snippets....what a performance....those singles at the end!!
My two favorite drummers of all time, would have loved to see their joint concert, thanks for posting all these Tonight show clips.
One of my favorite Buddy Rich tunes.
I love the way Louie Belson was watching from behind his kit. he looked like he was really getting into it these guys really admired each other and it always shows whenever they work together a beautiful thing to see. Another great post thank you! Bob M.
This is the performance I watched with my father that started it all for me, although at the time I was 9 years old, however, this same year on my birthday I had my very own set of drums in the exact configuration and they were a burgandy/maroon or wine red, not slingerland mine were Rogers.
Fast forward 30yrs and the legacy continued, except the kit was bigger, same color and even monogrammed with my initals, TJG
Paradiddle diddle flamacue ruff ruff
Many many thanks for posting this video. May God bless you and be safe ✌😇💜
Great find!!! That Tonight Show band was always so on fire....of course as well as Buddy, with Louis Bellson watching from behind! LOL
Wow! That was something else!
Wow. Buddy played with such confidence and bravado. He was the the best drummer ever.
Side note, Jack Webb was a true jazz lover.
When he died, he had what was considered the largest personal collection of jazz recordings.
I would love to see the interview with him before Buddy came on.
I wonder if he and Johnny discussed Buddy and if so, what Jack had to say about him.
There are thousands of jazz record collectors with big amount of records inside... But most of the time those collections are based on quantity and not quality... I'm proud that this is not my code
@@blankowvsingt You're a special kind of ass, aren't ya.
Conte Candoli on trumpet, Lew Tabackin on tenor sax (solo), Ross Tompkins on piano -- no "weak sisters". ;)
Pretty sure that was Snooky Young on Conte's right. Conte's brother Pete may have also been in that lineup that night -- not sure.
I believe this one is already posted on UA-cam. Thank you for taking the time to upload it though. Priceless music. Looking forward to seeing more. These old Carson shows were fascinating.
Roger Hn it may be. I was going through one of my BR Carson dvds and this was the only clip that I wasn’t positive is on UA-cam. I have several more disks to go through and should have more to post.
Sounds great. Thank you. Looking forward to them.
It’s fine! I’m pretty sure the quality is much better on this one.
yeah it is on here, but this upload is much cleaner.
Excellent, thanks for posting this
Great footage! Awesome!
Buddy Rich is by far, my most favorite drummer.
Buddy once said these old guys would come in off the golf course and read the charts like the Sunday paper. That's why he liked the young Berkely kids.
And they were cheap
The last year of Buddy’s 10 years Slingerland endorsement .
He went back to using Ludwig until 1982.
1983-87 used Slingerland Radio Kings.
As millions stated before....."that left hand."
Was Louie Bellson the guest drummer for the tonight show band?
I have a photo of my lifelong friends dad who happened to be Scotland's greatest jazz drummer his name was George McGowan, he's standing between Belson and Rich, all posing for the picture Buddy knew of George through other musicians and referred to him as "The Whizz Kid from Glasgow" They finally met at a concert in Newcastle in 1982.
Buddy telling it like it is! Not in my band haha, the truth
Buddy switched back to Ludwig later this year, through to the end of 1982.
He had used them also from 1946-59.
Whoa, not only Buddy, but notice Louis Bellson is sitting in with the band? I saw both drummers with their bands many times, and one time saw them both with their bands. The drum battle was epic!
17 Feb 1978...on 2 Feb, the BR Band was in Trenton, Michigan.
Geoff Nelson thanks. I checked my disk and I misread it.
The drums are miked better on this clip. A lot of the Carson BR stuff sounds like coffee cans. The band played well on a more challenging one time read. The Slingerlands sound good and BR seems inspired by LB.
Every single music number on The Tonight Show was rehearsed .
Oh I miss talking to him and setting up his gigs in the 60’s at the William B William’s agency
Kick ass.....
Snare always sounded like a ten pence mix on Carson…and that suit of buddy’s?! What did he ask for ‘have you got any the colour of boiled up shit?!’
Buddy certainly has his ride cymbal low.
The day i was born....
A couple of guys in this band played in Buddy’s band
Cool
There are many great drummers but only one buddy rich
REAL TALK about women musicians
Buddy on a 4-piece kit. Where on earth does he keep his towel?!
Lol, not on the 2nd Floor Tom.
Professional Drum Shop Loaner kit.
6:37
Lordy the king
Louie Bellson looks like Keith Moon.
What does the band play when he comes in
Do you mean the intro or the song they play with him?
The intro and thank you!!
The song that the band plays an exert from as buddy walks on stage
@Katie Bernier
It’s an old song called My Buddy. You can hear it on UA-cam performed by various artists. I just found a version sung by Bing Crosby from 1941 here on UA-cam.😊
@Katie Bernier
Here’s the link to Bing Crosby singing My Buddy 😊
m.ua-cam.com/video/4fUvjvjhoKA/v-deo.html
9:04 sounds like the horn section fell asleep. Obviously Buddy noticed right away. If that were his own band they would have caught holy hell about it for sure on break.
Buddy leaned on it all the way after the perfect killer intro.
However, no need of it with Doc's band, but he did it anyway.
I prefer the studio version of "Machine" from the album,
"The New One" recorded in 1966 and released in 1967.
Good help is hard to find. I am sure those guys could not have cared less--yes, it happens with professionals all of the time. You can tell Buddy was pissed. Now you know why he was psychotic with his young guys, and why he used young guys.
I’m a female trumpet player in a big band and as uncomfortable as it is to hear Buddy’s assessment of girl players - I think it’s from the heart.
If there was a player who played with the same intensity, the same musicianship and was a female, I think he may have done it. It’s hard and there aren’t many.
Lots of reasons but it’s hard work. We are getting there- look at the military bands, they hire and promote on the basis of talent.
Yeah, Buddy's standards were REALLY high. Most musicians, regardless of gender, couldn't come close to hacking it in his band. If you could make it in Buddy's band you were among the best of the best. Back then there were very few women musicians good enough to play in Buddy's band, but that's not a slight on women musicians - there just weren't as many playing back then. The numbers were against them. But I do think if a woman came in and kicked ass and showed that she was a world class talent Buddy would have given her a spot in his band (when there was a seat open).
When it comes to blind auditions, I'd agree with you. But promotions? Don't kid yourself. Back when this Tonight Show was taped, even then, promotions were based on factors including making sure that "diversity" was a force to be reckoned worth. And it's gotten orders of magnitude worse today. Signed, a retired military musician.
A little off-topic, perhaps, but here goes. One thing about the audio and mixing of Doc's band here on YT is the predominance of the bass trombone. Seems a bit much -- NOT THAT I'M COMPLAINING! LOL. I'm a bass trombonist as well, and well, the instrument can be overwhelming. Especially with charts like Buddy programs. These guys may have run the chart down once that afternoon, and they kill it during taping. Monster readers. Except for Buddy, of course. He just knows the chart.
"she's gotta be beautiful"
kinda disappointing to hear him say that. talent alone should be enough. as someone who had a daughter who also pursued music, what kind of message is that to send? it wasn't even a joke, or maybe I'm missing something.
Buddy said it himself -- as probably the sole female on the band, she FRONTS the band. Just the way it was, especially back then. Don't kid yourself -- music is as much VISUAL as it is AURAL, as disgusting as that sounds. That's why we have so many talentless musician wannabes cashing in big when regular guys scamper from gig to gig.
In the classical world, there are plenty of beautiful musicians who kick ass on their instruments. Not so much in the jazz world, especially then.
Orthodox Jewish values he had... :(
I NEVER LIKED HIS PERSONALITY
No one cares what you think, "all caps".
Buddy mite play the drums but Jonny could have slept with any woman in America so I'd rather be Jonny