Buddy Rich Interview on Larry King recorded 11/25/1985
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The piano player that Buddy raved about (Barry Kiener) died approx. one year after this interview. He was only 30 years old. He was very talented! What a loss!
Buddy was a genius. Period. And he was very kind to me as a kid. RIP Bud.
he was an asshole and he'll forever be known as a rotten individual
This guy is very fascinating. He was a professional to his core , and extremely talented. He knew his profession and was the best at it.
Whether good, bad, or ugly, Buddy said it exactly as he thought it.
Incredible to think his career spanned all the ages of jazz.
This might be Larry's best interview. He was totally in sync with Buddy. And Buddy was respecting and in sync with Larry. Very cool.
Two Brooklyn jews, talking :)
I'm a rock man through and through, but as a former drummer, I've always looked to Buddy as the greatest ever drummer.
A former drummer?
@@m42037 Exactly! lol
Mel Torme wrote a book called “Traps, the drum wonder“, a remarkable book about Buddy Rich because Buddy was one of Torme’s best friends. Buddy rich is famous for his hot temper and I guess that makes the headlines because it’s dramatic but in that book Mel Torme describes how warm, sweet, loyal and kind Buddy Rich was. I can get a sense of that warm spirit and twinkle in his eyes in this interview. Gratitude for posting this. Pure gold. ❤️
absolutely right
@kentbyron. Mel Torme’s voice was called “the velvet fog” I believe. One of the greatest singers who ever drew breath. However, many people do not know that Mel Torme was a FANTASTIC jazz drummer. Yes he was, you can see him play drums in a big jazz band on UA-cam. If you know anything about drumming or not, Mel will blow your socks off.
Check him out you will not be disappointed. I sure you know that Kent, but many others will not.
@kentbyron. I forgot to add that even though many people have heard the shocking recording that a musician recorded on a bus of Buddy Rich tearing strips off them, Buddy was indeed a very generous and loyal man.
I know this because my son played with a trumpet player who played in Buddy’s band.
The guy was not able to play for a couple of weeks in Buddy’s band due to an injury if I remember correctly. When he returned to the band Buddy paid him for the time he had off, even though Buddy had to pay someone else to stand in for him.
That would have been unheard of in those days, or even now.
I love how much you can tell Larry enjoyed this interview and how much admiration he had for Buddy.
I was lucky enough to see Buddy perform in Sweden in 1984 and I´ll never forget that show! He was in a terrific mode and played his ass off and even asked the audience what tunes to play. After the show we fans waited, until he had a shower and a change of clothes, for him to meet us one by one for autographs and a handshake. A memory I will treasure forever!
Beautiful & kind !! Thank you for sharing. 👍🙂
What an amazing experience. I am glad you got to have it my friend!
Buddy was iconic. Saw him once in Toledo,Ohio. He didn’t suffer fools I’m impressed by his respect for the questions Larry King was asking. He respected Jazz Music , nothing else. Fascinating !
There is no such thing as “The Best Drummer”, But there is such a thing as “The Greatest Drummer”, And his name is Buddy Rich………..
Interestingly enough, my Dad had a different view. He was of Buddy’s era when all the great Big Band Jazz musicians were around. We used to talk about Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa. I didn’t really know anything about Gene Krupa but I certainly knew the name as a legendary drummer. But it was really Buddy who I feel made the transition into and connection with my generation of drummers in terms of being an active recording and touring musician and bandleader. We knew Buddy Rich and his virtuosity because we saw him perform and appear in interviews on TV all the time. And he outlived all of his peers…they were gone by the time we came around. Well, Gene Krupa died in 1973. I never saw Gene Krupa. My generation of drummers became obsessed with chops…technical accomplishment on the drum set. Buddy Rich was the King of that movement. And I said to my Dad once that “Buddy Rich was great…a great drummer…” He agreed and said, “Yeah, Buddy Rich is great; but Gene Krupa was The Best.” I think he felt that way possibly because he was a showman…a real entertainer. I think that was more important to my Dad’s generation.
Never tolerated mediocrity. Not for one second. the GOAT.
I saw him in Nottingham 2 weeks after he opened in Ronnie Scott's.
He played his @ss off for 2 hours.
Afterwards my friend and I went backstage and queued to get our programs autographed. As we were near the front of the queue someone came up and said, "Mr Rich, the doctor says you have to go now." Buddy looked at him and said, "I'll come when I've seen all these people." He was a hero!
A real professional is someone who can do a great job while despising colleagues! RIP Buddy.
I am a full time Drum Instructor for over 25 years. I will NEVER forget the first time my Dad took me to see Buddy perform in the old Rockefellers Club. We sat in the balcony above Buddy's Drums. I have never seen any other Drummer come close to what I saw that night. We have lot of great Drummers today, no offense to anyone I can honestly say I have never seen anything like what I saw that night. Buddy Rich was unbelievable to watch perform in person. He definitely was the most inspiring Drummer of his time
I saw Buddy in 1980 in London, he had artistry and musicality together w speed not matched by anyone
@@jazzpianoman01 while i can agree with you, and buddy was always a life goal of my drumming (not like i'd actually make it there, but it's fun to dream right?) it's not the case so much anymore. there are drummers out there in the technical metal scene reaching 320bpm and higher. just check out archspire
@@hughneutron5303 it’s more than just the speed which is what it seems to be about these days, save a few good players eg Chris Coleman/Tony Royston Jnr to name a few. Buddy and others from that era had an artistry and musicality you don’t see much of today; they were part of the time they were in and it was a different time. FF onto today drumming greats like Virgil/Lang/ and others have took it to another level.
@@hughneutron5303 yeah I was working towards becoming the next Buddy or Krupa in my early years as kid so hyped up on learning the drums so yes fun to dream
Yeah, I get it. I saw him back in the 80s. It was a pleasure to shake his hand afterwards. I remember how large his hands were. When he soloed during west side story, I could not fathom what he did on that drum set. Like you said, there's some wonderful players out there, and I saw Bellson as well, no one has been, or is, a close second.
i have been playing drums for 40 years. buddy rich is still the best
RIP Larry and Buddy
Those who have been in bands know that he is right - the band lives/dies with the drummer.
He said he preferred a small audience. I saw him every year at Disneyland and he Never failed to excite and leave the audience exhausted. He had this incredible energy that could be felt from my view 12 feet away. He blew so hard on the drumset and then turn around and do a ballad or a trio number on brushes that would make you cry. THAT'S control folks! An emotional drummer not a book drummer. Roy Burns was in the audience one night and B asked him to stand up and take a bow, he loved fellow professional musicians. My friend said he thought Bellson was better and Burns said no, you're looking at the best! Thanks to all who are preserving these videos of the greatest America has to offer.
Right on, George! You said it all perfectly! And yes, I loved watching Buddy Rich at Disneyland.
Roy Burns, Bellson and Buddy. My heroes. I Love my Radio Kings. I was always planted at D-Land too!
What a great example of a man on many levels....respect.
Larger than life Mr. Rich was. You have to live life like it's your last day ever. I've had three heart attacks and this last one was rough but I'm back to doing what I was doing prior and won't slow down.
The key to Buddy Rich is that he plays what he feels in the moment as he serves the music he's playing. He's an artist and a musician. Never ever sounds the same twice.
Never sounded the same twice? He literally played the same drum solo for 40 years dude
@@DanLetts97 Go change your shirt Dan.
@@DanLetts97 nonsense. Total BS.
“When in the band stand you do your job” ….. in those days there weren’t UA-cam videos and iPads to learn from, these guys were the REAL DEAL
Definitely one of the better Larry King interviews.
Love him, or hate him, he was a superb drummer. His technique always bought out the best in his soloists, acting like a whip to horses when he needed more force from the musicians. He probably played behind/with/in front of all the jazz greats since 1940. It is sad that there are no longer such experienced band leaders able to bring talented youngsters up through the ranks like he did.
Perhaps not exactly in that genre.... But I think what Michael League has established with Snarky Puppy is no slouch either
well technically B started Jazz in 1938 but played Vaudeville houses since 2 1/2 years old…Vaudeville was a great era to learn the ropes on just playing behind people with all kinds of music. Buddy had a specific show built around his particular talent, but he had to absorb all this music in his mind and would often pull out the stops so to speak to bring beauty and flashy moves to his playing. Others would certainly employ the same kind of beauty to the drums like Jo Jones, Gene Krupa, Cozy Cole, Sam Woodyard, Sonny Payne, and Louie Bellson, among them.I think it was Philly Joe who said, “you got to make it pretty”!
Great analogy.
The one and only! He's dearly missed!!!
Love these interviews, saw Buddy many times in the 70's, the greatest ever, still amazing. Love his view point on life, he lived to the fullest.
"What does Buddy Rich have that other drummers don't have?" Above all, his left hand.
Good line ! He's so much the Showman. I saw him play in Birmingham, (Britain) in 1980/ 81 when I was a student there. All these years later I can still vividly remember his bedazzling ability ! Actually I prefer listening to Art Blakey though ,wish I had seen him !
That, and a black-belt.
He's a 🥁magic🎵man🥁
Taste, Feel, Time, Groove, Swing and LOVE for the MUSIC! As he said about drummers, to make the band play above their heads. Buddy was absolute perfection and he wanted other players to be as well. I saw him before a show once (age16) and I asked him where I could find the intros and fills to Preach and Teach and Mercy Mercy since our band had sheet music and I didn't. He shook my hand and told a younger man to write it out for me...that turned out to be Don Osborne Jr. ! I still have that treasured memento.
AbsoF****LUTLY
Can you imagine CNN anchor having intelligent conversation with Jazz musician today? We're living in a different times, my friends........
vova47 looks like you beat your own drum idiot
You got old. Stop bitching about it.
It really wasn't that intelligent.
Not many jazz musicians like Buddy around these days...
MSM is totally leftist agenda driven now.
I followed Buddy from 1972. Buddy Rich is the greatest natural drummer in the history of the world.
Drumming and Jazz will never be the same without the Amazing Buddy Rich,RIP Buddy Rich
I still think about it to this day the size of bass drum was huge and a small cymbal on top he was so in sync with his band he was such a great drummer right up to the end and his band forget it I was so lucky to see him on of last shows..
I was almost a month old when this was aired. Its comforting to know that he was alive and slaying for 2 years after this. I still have a piece of curtain that was in my room as a baby and its a clown playing a snare drum.
I was lucky enough to work for Mr. Rich for a show he did in Portland Maine. He was touring with Woody Herman. Amazing!
“They laugh when I play ...” With kid-like amazement every time I watch him. Love it!
I went to see buddy rich at one of is last shows in the uk 🇬🇧 at davenport theatre in Stockport it was so amazing he put a hell of a lot into is drumming sweat was pouring off him
I was at that show too. My mum told me I had to go and see this famous American Jazz drummer. I was into The Police and U2 at the time and I thought, how good could this old guy possibly be?
I walked out of there with my 13 year old ego torn to shreds and finally went to get some drum lessons. Haha.
That theatre was beautiful.
Great interview. Rich is smart, open and interesting. Against his image.
Which goes to show it depends when and in what situation you talk to a person. You can't expect to be paid by a drummer of his calibre and not get your backside kicked for mistakes. That's just the way it is. Otherwise go stand in a factory all day- the choice is yours!
Buddy was a musical master. I loved watching him with Johnny Carson, who was passionate about jazz and drumming.
He is spot on with the role of a drummer in a band
A Great Man he was. R.I.P Buddy Rich
Man i love this guy
My favorite Buddy Rich story
In the late 60’s, Bill Graham ran the Fillmore West in San Francisco and always dreaded when bands did drum solos. So he decided to show these kids what a REAL drummer was. He went to Las Vegas where Buddy was playing and invited him to play the Fillmore on a bill with Ten Years After. Buddy tore into Bill about rock drummers saying (among other things) they weren’t fit to hold his stick or his dick. But Bill calmly convinced him it would be great and eventually he agreed. Night of the gig the audience is screaming for Ten Years After and when they see Buddy’s band setting up behind little music stands wearing cardigan sweaters this only made them yell louder. Bill looks over Buddy’s set list and sees they do a cover of the Beatles Norwegian Wood. So he asks Buddy if he could open the show with it. Buddy thinks it’s insulting to tell him what to play but Bill thinks it would be a good idea to open with something “the kids” recognized. Buddy grumbled but agreed. Bill introduces Buddy as “the best there is” and the band does Norwegian Wood and when Buddy did a quick solo, as Bill put it, the room “shifted” and the audience was knocked out, screaming for more from Buddy. Meanwhile, Ten Years After’s drummer has been watching and when Bill met him backstage he said “Can’t wait to hear YOUR solo, baby”. The guy didn’t DARE do a drum solo all night or any other night when Buddy was on the bill with them
Charles Bukowski said “Find what you love and let it kill you”. He was a giant in the world of drums and music and the inspiration for millions of drummers.
I prefer to think this is a more honest reflection of the true Buddy Rich than some other more dramatic interviews out there. It's difficult to uphold standards and be beyond criticism. Buddy was an example to so many of us in the way he played every time he took to the stage.
I had the good fortune to see Buddy, live, twice. I was sitting in the audience at Massey Hall in Toronto waiting for Buddy to appear. We had been told that he would be late and was stuck in traffic. He arrived about forty minutes later, and being a trooper apologized for the delay. He explained that he had been taping a tv show along with Gene Krupa who was also playing in Toronto, and ran late. He also mentioned that he had asked Gene to come to the concert and sit in. I was so excited I thought I would pee my pants, but unfortunately he never showed up, but the band was terrific. It was the lineup that had recorded Big Swing Face and The New One, my all time favourites. I think he played a bit longer to make up for being late. This was an experience I’ll cherish forever.
alpha confidence at the highest level on display here...his body posture, tone, eye contact...extremely rare personality here...when you know you are the best in the world just being yourself is what every nootropic supplement strives for!
Big fan of Jeff too. Good name
Easily the greatest drummer ever. Perhaps the greatest musician ever. A pure blessing, privilege, and joy to watch and listen to recordings of this man play the drums. If only I could have heard him play live.
Buddy was absolutely awesome!
I guess, for a pompous ass hole
@@martyharless5097 yep , isn't his daughter right behind him on that score?
Dude's wit is as quick as his drumming. Could've easily been a comedian.
Buddy Rich was a total , 100% POS. Glad he's gone
@@patduffynousdefions1909 you'll have to elaborate
@@MelancoliaI
There is a video of The Mike Douglas Show from 1971 with BR. BR totally insults country music, country musicians, AND ALL THE PPL THAT LISTEN TO COUNTRY MUSIC. George "Goober" Lindsey from the Andy Griffith Show was also a guest on that show and BR INSULTED HIM. Don't believe me, go watch it for yourself. There are other similar examples of his arrogant, insulting, snobby personality. I'll stand by what I said . He is/was a POS and I'm glad he's gone
Very focused and direct!
"I play how I feel." I had the pleasure, honor, and always AWE INSPIRING experience of seeing Buddy perform countless times over decades, and never once him make a mistake or resort to a predictable vocabulary. His brilliance always bordered on the incomprehensible, and I once saw him do something utterly flabbergasting at a concert he performed before a sizable audience in Long Beach, California: he had an extra snare drum behind him that he incorporated during a solo, and at one point he reached his arms around behind himself while simultaneous releasing and 'throwing' his sticks from one hand to another; crossing in mid air, the stick in his left hand flew over to his right hand and vice versa. I saw Buddy many times before and after this jaw-dropping feat, and he NEVER did this trick on any other occasion. He just pulled this incredible rabbit out of his hat from NOWHERE!
A true showman.
What can I possibly say? The Man, The Musician . . . . . The Drummer has swept away my heart!
wow. thank you. I saw buddy three times, once in a high school in new hampshire. two years before this and yeah. the kids loved it. after the show buddy was standing maybe ten feet in front of me. what a memory
Such an enlightened artist. Happy birthday Buddy
Great interview with L.K. I love everything that Buddy says here! He has certainly earned his place in Jazz history! I was lucky to have seen him and his band play at a local high school back in the late 70's.
BR a phenomenon. I can't imagine a more honest open evaluation of music and musicians.
Loved the comment on Dorsey, 16 bars of music with a single breath on a trombone.
Larry King always rubbed me the wrong way but.. this was an excellent interview, top flite.
Another wonderful post Drumuitar. Buddy in a good mood and respectful of the interviewer as being one of the best as well.
I wish I could find an interview where Buddy is being interviewed by a drummer.
What a great interview!
Loved Buddy....miss him terribly ❤
The best ever
Thank you so much for sharing!!!
🙏❤🌹 Buddy & Larry 🌹❤🙏
When I worked for his agent William B Williams I used to help set up his itinerary. He was fantastic to work for. I loved the idea he used to go to schools to teach the kids. And he had a great sense of humor! He was a great showman and a great drummer! Sinatra’s mother and my grandmother were best friends in Sicily. My grandparents went to my grandparents wedding anniversary and I have a picture of them dancing that night. My boss also was Frank’s agent. But I never spoke with him and was about 18 and to shy to tell my boss about the Sinatra family connection.
I saw Buddy play live three times in my life. Eat your heart out! LOL
Absolute perfect person with the greatest abilities to perform and bring out the best in everyone in his band for night after night genuine
Jazz perfection.
I will see him on the other side one day.
Thankyou to his family , Kathy and wife for always challenging him and supporting him as the many stories he told about them was love and devotion.
My father was a jazz drummer and never got to meet him personally but had every record. He sent me to the east Detroit conservatory of music. I thank Mr. Roger's for instruction using the buddy rich books. Rudiments is the thing that makes buddy's sound and all the perfection and speed cane from developing muscle memory of the feel for and respect for rudiments in a very personal nerve center that he displayed. I was instructed by him early on and he had told me to use only my left hand to brush my teeth and comb my hair eat and shake hands cuz it builds neuropathways to the brain and helps to develop quicker and more fully and will help me build speed.
I used to could crush a ny roll with my left hand this way. A truely remarkable superhuman of mankind to ever grace us all. Rest in peace one of a kind! Mr. Buddy buddy rich. Teacher.
Amazing interview and valid points by the master drummer
So true what BR says about being at home. It's great and all but working and having an agenda to pursue is where it's at. For some reason when there is no agenda we end up sloth like to a degree. Maybe not for some but this rings true for me.
“I make a habit of hiring people who can do the job” ….. WHAT A CONCEPT we’ve lost across the years especially in the political climate today!! These guys were the real deal!! You won’t see musicians and artists like this ever again.
Loved this Larry King With The Greatest Drummer that ever Lived
That was wonderful
Great Interview Larry was the King
Great Post.
Looked up Barry Keiner and damn …heroin overdose age 30 while riding on the Buddy Rich tour bus.
For those who wonder about the influence. “Why not just have an actual violinist play the piece”? Clockwork Angels. They toured with a stringed instrument entourage. That had to be a bucket list for Neil. That was the best concert I have ever been to. Took my 12 yr old niece. She still listens to Rush✌️.
I still listen to Rush in fact several tracks earlier today. Mainly for the guitar but also those great drums and Neil peart . The saying goes a great band always has great drummer behind the kit.
He mentions pianist Barry Kiener, who worked with BR on and off for about eight years. He died of a heroin overdose not long after this was taped. Tragic.
Absolutely. He was a level of most pianists.
Dying of a heroin overdose is not tragic, it's stupid
dead year and a half later. never rushed or dragged.
Fascinating interview!
Sinatra brings YOU spaghetti = Boss Level Achieved !!! 😂😂
A drummer can make or break a band
rest in peace legend
BEST DRUMMER EVER
Great guy and the best drummer ever. Period.
Not anymore, I don't think.
@@TheMICMusicInspirationChannel OK I'll play. Who, IYO, is better?
@@johnnymongrel Virgil Donati, Marco Minnemann, Thomas Lang... Guys who are doing stuff that Buddy never even imagined. The instrument has evolved, along with what can be done on it. Their stick technique is on par with his, and what they're doing with multiple pedals, polyrhythms, etcetera hadn't even been conceived when Buddy was still on the scene.
At the 23 min mark, Buddy discusses his own vintage Slingerlands from the 40s, as his favourite drums ..
He used them until his death in 1987.
Buddy’s favorite drums were which ever company would pay him the most money. I saw him play Ludwig drums in the 1970’s and 1980’s.
I've a Porsche lol being humble and cool...Buddy not flying off the handle this night.
I always thought it was nifty that Buddy Rich considered Gene Krupa to be a genius.
This interview took place at the time I was producing Buddy Rich.
Such a shame that high level fantastic musicians (drummers, guitar players etc) don't get this kind of attention these days... So it might just seem like music is dead, while that is far from the truth
Pure genius!!
I have a white marine pearl Slingerland kit that I purchased in NYC at the music store called Mannys Music back in the 90's. I received a document saying "even though Mr Rich did not own these drums he played these drums several times". Drums are in great shape kit comes with the small splash cymbal and bass drum cymbal stand and also include includes the ride cymbal stand that was mounted to the bass drum. Ride cymbal stand is stationary zero adjustable. Anyone have any idea what this kit is worth I have no idea. Buddies signature is on the document. Any interest let me know.
I have an identical set to Buddy's last. Mine has a 24" bass drum instead of B's 26 inch. Music stores would loan drums to Buddy when needed. Tonight show is a pefect example. Some weird kits showed up there. The Professional drum shop in LA has a set of B's loaners on display. Be careful of the Buddy link. Any BR model #80-N is worth good money!
Buddy was often criticized for his views but I heard nothing that would be offensive or irrelevant.
1940 Slingerland Radio Kings...” better than anything around today. “
This was 1985....I wonder if that opinion would be the same with today’s drums..?
Drums have come a long way since 1985, which was in the middle of a period of them being real shit for a while.
"It really isn't that difficult"....
An great champ!
Great personality
“You’re all up there, fuckin’ high-school, bullshit jive artists. You jived me for the last fuckin’ time.” ~ Buddy Rich
The Goat !
Buddy Rich on drumming - "... it really isn't that difficult." - 5:04
But looking back he did push himself so hard on the kit it’s a shame he died because he was such a great drummer he was playing like a 20 year old on his kit that night but I think old age unfortunately creep up on him with his health problems and so on but he was the best America has ever had and a true technician 👍🏻🇬🇧
I had a close friend who's a Buddy clone we went to see Buddy play at the New Haven Coliseum in Connecticut. After the show Buddy and his band were all on his tour bus with the door open so my buddy Kenny jumps up in the bus see's Buddy and walks up to him and says Buddy I want to play in the band, Buddy looks at him and says "get off my bus".