DeLonghi Dedica EC685 Normal Portafilter vs Bottomless Portafilter.

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • Same grind size.
    Normal Portafilter Coffee ratio : in 14g out 34g 34sec.
    Bottomless Portafilter Coffee ratio : in 18g out 34g 25sec.
    Equipment :
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  • @jimjamkillsnerds
    @jimjamkillsnerds 4 роки тому +323

    Everyone should know you can change the "volume" of the shot on this machine. Hold down the button for as long as you want the shot to be, and the machine will remember for next time. Remember to only start timing after the pre-infusion after the machine waits for a second.
    The shot should pull for about 25-30 seconds. If you can't pull a good tasting shot in this time, change your grind.
    Another tip for this machine is not to tamp too hard. Compress the coffee and then stop. No need to put all your strength into it.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому +16

      Thank you very much.

    • @giuseppemengoli
      @giuseppemengoli 3 роки тому +1

      Can I change the pre infusion time? With the instructions it is explained only how long the pouring will be

    • @jimjamkillsnerds
      @jimjamkillsnerds 3 роки тому +3

      @@giuseppemengoli No you can’t

    • @luigidambrosio3224
      @luigidambrosio3224 3 роки тому

      Hi your video is very useful but with a second coffee grinder SMEG CGF01 and 30 available position my results are not the best could you help me?

    • @jameshurley4959
      @jameshurley4959 3 роки тому +1

      @@ArtyHome the coffee is coming out my bottomless portafilter too fast. Do I need to make a finer grind and tamp harder?

  • @donaldlippert6374
    @donaldlippert6374 Рік тому +62

    Good video. Background noise is unbearable.

  • @georgeyoussry5234
    @georgeyoussry5234 3 роки тому +62

    I think you have tamped it too hard in the normal portafilter so it gave drops not a continous flow

  • @PeerensClement
    @PeerensClement Рік тому +4

    I don't want to alarm you, but it sounds like Darth Vader is breathing over your shoulder this whole time.

  • @highland-oldgit
    @highland-oldgit 3 роки тому +23

    I don't know how people are fitting 18g into these baskets on the bottomless PF. I am struggling to get 16g.

    • @saneksheva80
      @saneksheva80 3 роки тому +7

      Finer grind.. and some sorts of cofee are heavier..

    • @maxxsee
      @maxxsee 3 роки тому +1

      @@saneksheva80 nice info my man, god bless

    • @owenedgson7302
      @owenedgson7302 Рік тому +1

      Are you sure you don’t just have a smaller basket? IMS do a range of sizes, I have the 15-18g but there was a smaller and a bigger basket available as well

    • @highland-oldgit
      @highland-oldgit Рік тому +1

      @@owenedgson7302 I've just paused the video where he turns the PF on it's side and you may be right. There are no markings on the my basket but the depth is 24mm.

  • @TheresOnlyOneTank
    @TheresOnlyOneTank 3 роки тому +40

    Completely over extracted the second shot. Probably ground too fine or it's over tamped. I have this machine, and the shots from the stock portafilter are far better than displayed in this video.

    • @gordanbabic8028
      @gordanbabic8028 3 роки тому +10

      in my experience the shots from stock portafilter are very mediocre. the rubber seal is elevated at one point for easier removal and that makes it really hard to achieve proper tamp. when I purchased bottomless portafilter my coffee became much better

    • @MEKaradeniz
      @MEKaradeniz 3 роки тому +5

      @@gordanbabic8028 I agree with you. The rubber seal of single-shot cup is even seen when you tamp. It breaks the flatness of the coffee surface.
      That is why I always use double-shot cup of stock portafilter.

    • @WestDutchBoys
      @WestDutchBoys 2 роки тому +1

      @@MEKaradeniz then you should use more coffee

    • @MEKaradeniz
      @MEKaradeniz 2 роки тому

      @@WestDutchBoys yes but then the amount of coffee is more than half of double shot

    • @WestDutchBoys
      @WestDutchBoys 2 роки тому +1

      @@MEKaradeniz sorry I misread, you’re also using the double shot cup for this reason. I switched to the double cup immediately. I don’t even know better. Had the same problem indeed

  • @peterflex1
    @peterflex1 7 місяців тому +1

    why there is flushin sound every 3 seconds

  • @kjetil_
    @kjetil_ 3 роки тому +6

    Nice channel! Brand new coffee drinker here:) Got the EC685 yesterday, I am loving it.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      Enjoy!

    • @imahmud
      @imahmud 3 роки тому +1

      I have had mine for years, still going strong.

  • @nicee_guys
    @nicee_guys 4 роки тому +27

    these wooden standings for portafilers are cool!!! where did you get them?

    • @kondko
      @kondko 4 роки тому +3

      Amazon has em. So does ebay. Made in china only tho

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому +6

      www.ebay.com/itm/Wooden-Coffee-Tamper-Holder-Base-Espresso-Coffee-Barista-Latte-Art-Tamper-Holder/274490805443?var=574655441899&hash=item3fe8ed4cc3:g:cQAAAOSw6EVfWy-f

    • @danielsolstrand
      @danielsolstrand 2 роки тому

      Ebay

  • @icinemagr4621
    @icinemagr4621 Місяць тому

    Why all those ocmpanies doesnt make it from the factory bottomless?

  • @eduardosoria4214
    @eduardosoria4214 3 роки тому +5

    Why did you use 14g (ratio 1: 2.4) for the normal portafilter and 18g (ratio 1: 1.9) for the bottomless one and not the same coffee quantity with beans coarser/finer? Thank you for share the video.

    • @LB-qi2bn
      @LB-qi2bn 3 роки тому +5

      Normal portafilter can not hold much coffee. I have also found 14g is about the maximum. 15g or more and the puck may touch the spout on the group head.

    • @LB-qi2bn
      @LB-qi2bn 3 роки тому +2

      But I agree would be interested to see 14g from the bottomless filter.

  • @matimaddio2531
    @matimaddio2531 Рік тому +2

    soo..WHICH TASTES BETTER? IN WHAT ASPECT DOES IT TASTE DIFFERENT?

  • @ichigokurosaki318
    @ichigokurosaki318 4 роки тому +1

    We can clearly see a difference 👍

    • @MrOKCThunderfan
      @MrOKCThunderfan 3 роки тому

      He used the same grind for both filters. Pressurized filters are used for pre ground coffee which is typically less fine. The second shot was over extracted.

  • @Frontistiria-Ntolkou
    @Frontistiria-Ntolkou Рік тому

    About the timer: If we assume that you go for a ratio of 1:2+ and extraction time should be around 25-30 sec then you can say that both the portafilters done their job at 30sec. They doubled the amount you gave them. Eventho if u had Coarser coffe more suited for espresso you could take the same result in less time maybe on the ideal more most: 25''. Well done tho, you are so close!

    • @ivandiaz5566
      @ivandiaz5566 9 місяців тому

      Background music is to high.

  • @AhmadSmairat
    @AhmadSmairat Рік тому +2

    Do you change the grind size for the bottomless one?

  • @DewloN
    @DewloN 2 роки тому

    Is the video beautiful - right? Although why create it with constant squelching in the background?
    I don't understand why you need to boil 34g of espresso from 14g of coffee - this is also an over-extract - only bitterness. Plus, in 34 seconds - it's a wild over-extract. We do not yet take into account the fact that your timer starts when the first drops enter the cup. In fact, the first drops fall into the cup at ~ 5th second, and due to the pre-wetting mode of the Delonghi ec685 coffee maker, the first drops fall into the cup at all at 8-9 seconds.
    How do you drink this bitterness.
    And why are you knocking on the portafilter? This creates cracks in the condensed coffee. And why are you screwing the tempera? You just need to squeeze.

  • @beyzahantuncez3471
    @beyzahantuncez3471 4 роки тому +6

    I have blocking issue with the pressurized basket when the grind is finer, have you had the same issue?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому +3

      Yes, I have a similar problem, you have to gradually adjust the fineness of the grinder.

    • @imbecilvic
      @imbecilvic 3 роки тому +1

      Just happened this morning

    • @maxxsee
      @maxxsee 3 роки тому

      oh I see !!

    • @maxxsee
      @maxxsee 3 роки тому

      @@ArtyHome is the purchased grind size in bag from say lavazza too thick?

  • @joaopereira1935
    @joaopereira1935 2 роки тому +1

    18g for 1 coffe? Is not to much?

  • @michaelbattista1334
    @michaelbattista1334 7 місяців тому +1

    What the heck is that noise?

  • @agutsul
    @agutsul 9 місяців тому

    I don't see any difference. Somebody explain to me, please, what is the difference?

  • @midoahmed2725
    @midoahmed2725 Місяць тому

    I would like to ask you about the De'Longhi Dedica Espresso Machine EC885. I want to buy it with a professional bottomless, non-pressurized portafilter. Is it effective to use this portafilter with the machine? I've heard that this type of small coffee maker has a higher water pressure, around 15 bars or more, which may not be suitable with a professional bottomless, non-pressurized portafilter.
    Also, What degree of grind did you use for the coffee?

  • @Prime3Alpha
    @Prime3Alpha 3 роки тому

    I've watched no less than 30 videos and it didn't click until yours. 👍

  • @bsyoutube2649
    @bsyoutube2649 7 місяців тому

    What basket size are you using? My bottom of the basket doesn’t reach till the end of the portafilter.

  • @gioacchinoiandolo2806
    @gioacchinoiandolo2806 3 роки тому

    Buongiorno ho acquistato il filtro non pressurizzato. Malgrado abbia raddoppiato la dose di caffè e l'abbia pressata molto il risultato è un caffè per nulla cremoso?

  • @thiagosalesesantos2950
    @thiagosalesesantos2950 2 роки тому +1

    Nice vid, congrats! What is the purpose of the piece with black rubber in the original portafilter?

    • @mrshadowwolfgaming
      @mrshadowwolfgaming 2 роки тому +3

      its a filter. the original portafilter is a pressurised one, so it has a small hole that it uses to generate crema for the espresso, the black ring is a filter that's removable so that the small hole doesnt get blocked by the coffee grinds

  • @cpg8000
    @cpg8000 3 роки тому

    So, what is the underlying reason for the difference?

  • @kevinfrost6309
    @kevinfrost6309 3 роки тому +2

    Can you please tell me which filter your using on the bottomless portafilter and where did you purchased it from. I'm on my second filter and I can't and I still can't find the right filter to work. Thanks

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому +1

      Are you grinding the grains fine enough?

  • @BB-rh3np
    @BB-rh3np 3 роки тому +1

    You said 18g out 34g 25sec. This 25sec count from when u press the button? or when the espresso comes out?

    • @Roman.Visuals
      @Roman.Visuals 3 роки тому +1

      You can clearly see from the video that scale timer starts when coffee starts to drip

  • @elnywidjaja9885
    @elnywidjaja9885 2 роки тому

    So what is the verdict??

  • @nikostsirikos117
    @nikostsirikos117 Рік тому

    whats a good grind level for the bottomless portafilter? fine |? too fine?

  • @jasontan4086
    @jasontan4086 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Arty, very nice video! The link for the portafilter on Amazon is not working anymore. Do you have any portafilter to recommend for a Dedica?
    I bought one which is supposed to fit on a Dedica (according to the seller) but it turns out slightly loose and the portafilter came off mid brewing and created a big mess! So now I have to hold on to it whenever I start brewing.

    • @ArthurRodriguez
      @ArthurRodriguez 2 роки тому +1

      Same question. Did you find one that works for you? Thanks

  • @vasilisantoniou6603
    @vasilisantoniou6603 Рік тому

    Unfortunately it’s not available any more in Amazon

  • @uzairpetersen5969
    @uzairpetersen5969 3 роки тому +1

    Where did you find the bottomless portafilter? I can't seen to find 51mm ones anywhere

    • @gavinpereira6588
      @gavinpereira6588 3 роки тому +1

      SODIAL Coffee Bottomless Portafilter for EC680/EC685 Filter 51MM Replacement Filter Basket Coffee Accessories www.amazon.com/dp/B083K12RPK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_YKJ955H7RG64CAY8ZBR7

  • @Mmdiiiiiiii
    @Mmdiiiiiiii 5 місяців тому

    Whats the portafilrer name and size

  • @RenciOfficial
    @RenciOfficial Рік тому

    I have delonghi ec 820. Do you think I could use the same handle (portafilter) like for 685? It is has also 51mm, 3 ears. I am not sure about thickness of the ears. I have tried to search on the internet, even talked to some sellers on aliexpress, but noone helped me out...

  • @AhmedNaser20
    @AhmedNaser20 2 роки тому

    I use delonghi KG521 grinder. what is degree shall I use, please? Can you tell me?

  • @2salonika
    @2salonika 2 роки тому

    can you please tell me what type of tamper 51mm r you using for the non presurized basket because a buy one from ebay and its not fit very well, my non presurized basket is from ebay

  • @Klubnichkaua
    @Klubnichkaua 6 місяців тому

    thanks for the video. please advice how do you manage to get normal extraction time with open portafilter on Dedica AND THE SAME GRIND SIZE as on pressurezed?
    nomatter how I tried I always have one of the two situations with Dedica and open portafilter:
    - if the grind is the same as for the pressurized - the extraction is very quick and the result is bad
    around 3,8 on 1zpresso k-max
    - if the grind is small enough to get visually good and slow extraction - 2,4 - the taste is that much bitter that it gets absolutely undrinkable

  • @GadgetsGearCoffee
    @GadgetsGearCoffee 3 роки тому

    What the heck is the background sound? Is someone running the dishwasher?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      I'm sorry, it's the sound of a pump making waves in my aquarium.

  • @graciano83
    @graciano83 3 роки тому

    Hi, my portafilter is unscrewing when I try to have a shot. I was not a case when I used after I had got it, but now it is sliding even when water is passing by smoothly.

    • @dannydu_jardin1923
      @dannydu_jardin1923 6 місяців тому

      Change the joint, a new rubber or sillicone one is not expensive

  • @aizatismail1335
    @aizatismail1335 3 роки тому +1

    Is it possible to put only 10g of coffee on that botomless portafilter ?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      You can, but I'm not sure if I can do it well.

    • @ts3024
      @ts3024 3 роки тому

      @@ArtyHome 11g works pretty well

    • @JoseRodriguez-xk5le
      @JoseRodriguez-xk5le 3 роки тому +1

      @@ts3024 are 11g enough for a single espresso around 30grs? Our friend use 14 with original and 18 with bottomless

  • @michelangelocarrieri4784
    @michelangelocarrieri4784 2 роки тому

    Hi there,
    I have just bought a Dedica EC685 and I am trying to understand better how the coffee world works.
    I bought the dosing cup you advised but it cannot fit the standard portafilter so It's difficult for me put into it ground coffee.
    Do you have any advise?

    • @erizheizlan
      @erizheizlan 2 роки тому

      You need to make sure its suitable for your machine.. use 51mm

  • @redeye8386
    @redeye8386 2 роки тому

    I find my coffee not good yet. Hope if i buy new temper not original plastic one it will be better. I wanted buy bottomless filter too but it cost much and that filter + temper and i could buy for that money even automatic coffee maker. I find it cool my delonghi ec685 but didnt knew if i want good coffee i need buy those 2 parts for 60€ :( buy temper will be ok but not that filter . If temper will be enough to make coffee taste better it will be amazing. (Well i only have him 2md day now so maybe i am just not good enought with it yet )

  • @gordanbabic8028
    @gordanbabic8028 4 роки тому +2

    those tampers? the blue one is delonghi's I presume ... and the other one? is there a size difference between them? because I noticed my 51mm tamper from Ebay hardly fits those baskets.
    also, your wooden tamping station is beautiful. where did you get it?

    • @renadbakhet5871
      @renadbakhet5871 3 роки тому

      the tamping station is available at Aliexpress

  • @mauriciomorenorivera
    @mauriciomorenorivera 4 роки тому +1

    Switched to a bottomless filter and getting no cream at all, my grinder is the Dedica KG520...

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому +3

      Delonghi dedica kg520 can't grind coffee beans as finely enough to be used with bottomless.

    • @animalloverwashere
      @animalloverwashere 4 роки тому

      Arty Home what about the KG49? Is the finest setting fine enough?

    • @penetrulucian4438
      @penetrulucian4438 3 роки тому

      @@animalloverwashere kg 79 is the best, can grind almost like flour. too bad it does not deliver directly in the portafilter.

  • @gin-ichi5068
    @gin-ichi5068 4 роки тому

    good video for me, thanks:)

  • @rr88821
    @rr88821 3 роки тому

    Is your tamper 51mm used to your portafilter bottom less? Mine also 51mm but only fit the half button of my tamper. Can you share where you bought your bottomless portafilter ?

    • @carolbarles.23
      @carolbarles.23 2 роки тому +1

      I also encountered the same issue. I used 18g in my Neouza Bottomless portafilter but It felt like my tamping is not enough since it can only fit half. Any suggestions like increasing the dose? Or using othertools?

  • @An_dong_ni_
    @An_dong_ni_ 3 роки тому +2

    Hello! Beginner home espresso maker with the EC685 here! Thank you for the nice video!
    Have fellow users here found the distributor to be an essential tool for a good cup of espresso? I’ve actually just learnt from this video that such thing exists! ☕️

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому +1

      You should find a good grinder like the Eureka Minog.

  • @renjee7200
    @renjee7200 3 роки тому +1

    Hi what coffee beans are you using?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      Medium roast coffee beans.

  • @magelinekelley7536
    @magelinekelley7536 3 роки тому +1

    That flushing noise though

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      Sorry, it's caused by the sound of the pump making waves. my fish tank.

    • @3CKSTR
      @3CKSTR Рік тому

      it's disgusting and unprofessional

  • @joseburgos01ify
    @joseburgos01ify 3 роки тому

    I have a Delonghi stilosa and I can’t get a shot to go longer than 11 seconds with pre ground coffee and the pressurized filter.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому +2

      The ground coffee you are using is too coarse.

  • @Beyond_Camping
    @Beyond_Camping 3 роки тому +1

    Did you have any channeling when using a bottomless portafilter? If yes, how did you solve it?

    • @andrescyfy570
      @andrescyfy570 3 роки тому

      Are you using pre-ground coffee? Never had it since I am using freshly ground coffee.

    • @Beyond_Camping
      @Beyond_Camping 3 роки тому

      @@andrescyfy570 no I use fresh beans with my Eureka Mignon Facile grinder.

    • @Beyond_Camping
      @Beyond_Camping 3 роки тому

      @@andrescyfy570 do you mind sharing the recipe you are using?

    • @andrescyfy570
      @andrescyfy570 3 роки тому +1

      Well, after grinding it needs some distribution by tipping on the portafilters side. Then I gently knock the porta on a hard surface with the bottom to get it settled - 3 times. I think it doesn't need rough tamping. But give it a little twist in the end. If this procedure doesn't help, maybe it's your grinder setting or coffee itself. I'm using modded original portafilter with modded original sieve. Pulling out 33g coffee out of 13g powder.

    • @Beyond_Camping
      @Beyond_Camping 3 роки тому

      @@andrescyfy570 Thank you, I will surely try this one. Since I bought my grinder I only get a little channeling on the sides in about 15 secs then disappears. I will try to tip it because I have not tried it yet. Thank you

  • @Am-qv2oe
    @Am-qv2oe 3 роки тому

    hello there..that portafilter can get 18gram???

  • @ramiabramov828
    @ramiabramov828 3 роки тому +2

    do you think that graef cm702 good for this new portafilter?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      I have never used this grinder. I don't know if grinding is fine enough.

    • @yehonatanmeharetu8801
      @yehonatanmeharetu8801 3 роки тому

      יש לי את המטחנה הזאת. במידה ויש לך דילונגי דדיקה e685-תחליף את ידית החליטה באתר עלי אקספרס לידית חליטה במידה 51mm ללא תחתית כמו בוידאו. לגבי המטחנה תשתמש בשייבות שהביאו לך עם המכשיר. יש שייבות במידות 0.2 ו0.25,תשתמש בהן. ודרגה טחינה מומלצת מ5 עד 10. אני מוצא לנכון שמספר 7 עושה את העבודה. בהצלחה;-)

    • @JoseRodriguez-xk5le
      @JoseRodriguez-xk5le 3 роки тому

      I've Dedica and this same graef you are talking about and it works perfectly enough at 10 of 30 steps. Graef give you 3 spring washer to modify fineness if it isn't enough. I'm using it without modification.

  • @vasileiosg765
    @vasileiosg765 3 роки тому

    Any ideas for a good 3-4cup bottomless basket ( around 18gr )??? those from china have big holes and splatter everywhere .no crema at all . The original holds 14gr i need a bigger one , ty in advance

    • @nickthenightfly82
      @nickthenightfly82 8 місяців тому

      I bought the Neouza set from Amazon: 2 cups 16-19g, 1 cup (idk, 1 cup is too tricky), bottomless portafilter and the filter plate. Then from IMS, i bought the screen replacement (the one on the machine with the middle screw). I also got an Eureka Silenzio single dose mod grinder (single dose kit from Etsy), the lever steam knob (also from etsy) and the rancilio silvia v1/v2 steam wand replacement from Amazon. Never enough...

  • @cristim9779
    @cristim9779 4 роки тому +5

    For comparison you should use the 2 cup button for pressurized. It makes all the differnece in the world. When pressing 1 cup button the crema is always ligher in colour than with the 2 cup button.The difference in taste is remarkable.

    • @wongalex7123
      @wongalex7123 4 роки тому +6

      what do you mean? either 1 cup or 2 cup button can be adjusted in same output (34g) , or you know something difference beside the output volume?

    • @jimjamkillsnerds
      @jimjamkillsnerds 3 роки тому +1

      @@wongalex7123 you are correct. the buttons only change the volume. you could press and hold the single cup button to be as long as a double shot and it would be the same result

    • @StalkaDSR
      @StalkaDSR Рік тому

      No

  • @johnpaleos6387
    @johnpaleos6387 Рік тому

    6' 30" to make one expresso coffee??? This is not express this is very slow...

  • @maximus7947
    @maximus7947 2 роки тому

    It's not about the portafilter, it's about the basket

  • @PL-im4mg
    @PL-im4mg 3 роки тому

    Thank you. I never manage to get all that cream. not even with the bottomless portafilter

    • @NakedtruthEyes
      @NakedtruthEyes 2 роки тому

      Time to change bean . Try slightly shiny beans

  • @waitakcheung8172
    @waitakcheung8172 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your nicely prepared video. May I ask if the pressure you tamped the coffee ground were the same for both brews? I have heard that there is no need to tamp the ground for pressurized basket as hard as for bottomless portafilter. Is that true?

    • @stephenw1799
      @stephenw1799 2 роки тому

      I heard the same about tamping with the pressurised basket. They are designed for people who don't want to spend time dialling in etc.

  • @scherenschnitt6333
    @scherenschnitt6333 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Arty. Thanks for these videos. They help me very much to understand how to make some espresso. And... Ti understand that this original portafilter is not good.
    It is stuck every day. And we always loose fresh milled coffee if the hole is blocked.
    I think i. The one and a half week we had 6 to 7 times it stuck.
    So i wanted to buy a new portafikter bottomless. But unfortunately those you out into your desrciption arent available.
    The prices of alternatives are from 13 to 45 Euros. So maybe you could tell em the price of YOURS to dind a similar one?
    Would be really kind. Because not only me but also my wife gets angry about that.

    • @owenedgson7302
      @owenedgson7302 Рік тому

      Get an IMS portafilter basket. They're top quality, don't just buy any one from amazon. Also, make sure it's 51mm for the dedica

  • @linusalexanderpolley1644
    @linusalexanderpolley1644 3 роки тому

    Where is the Bottomlessfilter from

  • @LuisGabrielAguilarVirgen
    @LuisGabrielAguilarVirgen 2 роки тому

    Just can't get any crema out of it. Most of the time water doesn't even pass through the filter, don't matter if I use the original or the non presurized. Been practicing for weeks, still don't get satisfactory results.

    • @LuisGabrielAguilarVirgen
      @LuisGabrielAguilarVirgen 2 роки тому

      I think the machine doesn't have enough power to get the water through the coffee in the filter.

  • @markraahauge5255
    @markraahauge5255 3 роки тому +1

    Which espresso shot did you like the best?
    The bottomless or the normal portafilter from dedica? :)

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому +1

      I also use both. Like the light taste of nolmal portafilter.

    • @guan5849
      @guan5849 3 роки тому

      So is the 14g 34 seconds shot with portafilter fine as well?

  • @johnnie232
    @johnnie232 3 роки тому

    You should not knock against the portafilter to avoid channeling.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much. I won't do it again.

  • @elmagic209
    @elmagic209 4 роки тому

    Degree of perfect grinding ??

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому

      I can not identify. The fineness depends on the hardness of the ground coffee beans.

  • @saporob
    @saporob Рік тому

    This doesn't make sense at all, you are practically using 3 doses to make 1 coffee!!!!! I would like to see a video with this bottomless portafilter and a 1 CUP FILTER (7 grams )but no one made it... Is it normal to drink 3 Espresso coffees in one in thailand?

  • @leonidfisherman9159
    @leonidfisherman9159 10 місяців тому

    Давить темпером нужно один раз, если несколько, то возможен перекос и таблетка треснет.

  • @bortmekhanik_
    @bortmekhanik_ 3 роки тому

    Where buy bottomless portafilter?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      www.ebay.com/itm/51mm-Coffee-Bottomless-Portafilter-For-Delonghi-EC680-EC685-Filter-Replacemen/283906663348?var=585350119495&hash=item421a27e3b4:g:VrsAAOSwbR9e3ggZ

  • @georgiosgeorgotas773
    @georgiosgeorgotas773 4 роки тому

    From where did you buy the portafilter ?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому

      From eBay.

    • @georgiosgeorgotas773
      @georgiosgeorgotas773 4 роки тому

      And it came with a double or a single filter

    • @georgiosgeorgotas773
      @georgiosgeorgotas773 4 роки тому

      Also could you please send me the address from where you bought it if possible?

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому

      @@georgiosgeorgotas773 Double filter.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому

      @@georgiosgeorgotas773 www.ebay.com/itm/51mm-Coffee-Bottomless-Portafilter-For-Delonghi-EC680-EC685-Filter-Replacemen/303590352996?var=602820115835&hash=item46af652864:g:MgEAAOSwRkhe8CMZ

  • @loykoylos
    @loykoylos 4 роки тому +1

    Can you give a link on the bottomless portafilter as well as the basket;

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому +2

      www.ebay.com/itm/51mm-Coffee-Bottomless-Portafilter-For-Delonghi-EC680-EC685-Filter-Replacemen/303590352996?hash=item46af652864:g:MgEAAOSwRkhe8CMZ

    • @loykoylos
      @loykoylos 4 роки тому

      @@ArtyHome thank you very much!

    • @aleksandarstojceski3139
      @aleksandarstojceski3139 3 роки тому +2

      Friend you can use the factory portafilter just cut the bottom part. It works great!

    • @luks9687
      @luks9687 3 роки тому

      @@aleksandarstojceski3139 What tool exactly did you use to cut it? I was thinking to do the same.

    • @aleksandarstojceski3139
      @aleksandarstojceski3139 3 роки тому

      @@luks9687 On lathe.

  • @MT-ud7qc
    @MT-ud7qc 3 роки тому +1

    I tried the normal portafilter and the same machine. Also followed the same recipe, but my espresso tastes sour. Anyone know why?

    • @filipinoidiot
      @filipinoidiot 3 роки тому

      Could be you ground to coarse, or bad water temperature

    • @MT-ud7qc
      @MT-ud7qc 3 роки тому

      @@filipinoidiot I tried grinding fine and adjusted the temperature. Do you think it could be sour because my coffee is medium-roast?

    • @filipinoidiot
      @filipinoidiot 3 роки тому

      @@MT-ud7qc could be the type of beans, some light roast have more acidity, or you might need to check your distribution, if your distribution is poor it can lead to poor extraction

    • @MT-ud7qc
      @MT-ud7qc 3 роки тому

      @@filipinoidiot Thanks! I will try it again.

  • @elnywidjaja9885
    @elnywidjaja9885 2 роки тому

    Mesin grinder nya Merek apa

  • @leoooo11646
    @leoooo11646 4 роки тому

    Where can i get the cup that u hold the grind that can fit the 51mm basket 🤩 u know what i mean

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому

      2 oz stainless steel cup and dosing ring 51mm is sold on eBay.

  • @wiwatrung3374
    @wiwatrung3374 3 роки тому

    Why in the other clip u start timer when u press the button and in this clip u start timer when first drop hits the cup?
    ทำไมอีกคลิปถึงเริ่มจับเวลาตอนกดปุ่มแล้วคลิปนี้เริ่มจับเวลาตอนที่น้ำหยดลงแก้วอะครับ?

  • @protik007sbk
    @protik007sbk 3 роки тому

    I am using dedica grinder and not getting any creamer in naked Porta filters is the grinder not good

    • @dc8povi
      @dc8povi 3 роки тому

      A good grinder is double the price of the machine, a manual grinder is as the same price as the machine :)

    • @edshao2572
      @edshao2572 3 роки тому

      Crema depends more on your beans than the extraction

    • @protik007sbk
      @protik007sbk 3 роки тому

      @@edshao2572 I use Lavazza beans should I use something else

  • @INDOMINING_HEAVYDUTY
    @INDOMINING_HEAVYDUTY 3 роки тому

    Hy guys i want to make line group, for barista tk share their experiances to each and other..if you agree please coment

  • @imtomaustin
    @imtomaustin Рік тому

    Wanted to try and enjoy this video but the constant sound of a toilet flushing all through the video drove me mad, sorry lol

  • @photopete7903
    @photopete7903 4 роки тому +10

    Tell the person who is flushing the toilet throughout this video to stop. The noise is really distracting.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  4 роки тому +9

      I'm sorry, it's the sound of the pump making waves in my aquarium.

  • @MyDarlin1
    @MyDarlin1 9 місяців тому

    seriously wtf is going on in the background. i cant bear it

  • @fractalamb
    @fractalamb 3 роки тому

    the normal portafilter looks like a face crying out coffee

  • @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439
    @theyshouldhavenevergivenme5439 3 роки тому

    - ticking the side of the portafilter with the tamper after leveling the grind .... 😬
    - banging the portafilter on the table after putting the grind in (....???)
    - super annoying filter coffee machine 'gurgling sound' dubbed over in the background 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @andyblack1545
    @andyblack1545 3 роки тому

    It is strange to use same coffee for different portafilter.

    • @mikethespike2643
      @mikethespike2643 3 роки тому

      why?

    • @andyblack1545
      @andyblack1545 3 роки тому

      @@mikethespike2643 need different grinding for different types portafilters

    • @mikethespike2643
      @mikethespike2643 3 роки тому

      @@andyblack1545 u r right, but u wrote "strange 2 use the same coffee" :)

  • @denm3720
    @denm3720 3 роки тому +1

    Максимально бессполезное видео. Сравнивать улучшайзер и нормальную корзину, вот только не стоит забывать какая это кофеварка, какая у неё термостабильность, а так же что она на выходе даже спустя 10 проливов выдает температуру едва доходящую до 80 градусов. и ещё такой момент, время экстракции слишком огромное, а коэффициент в обеих случаях низкий. Простое увеличение помола избавит от неправильного, переэкстрагированного кофе, а так же от покупки обычной корзины для машины где она не желательна. ну не стоит двигатель от бмв на запорожец ставить, ну не стоит это того.

    • @whomegalul102
      @whomegalul102 2 роки тому

      на моменте про температуру едва доходящую до 80 ты потерял меня

  • @carlomariamosco
    @carlomariamosco 3 роки тому +16

    I like the way you organised your desk and how you shooted the scene.
    Bravo!

  • @Winner8501
    @Winner8501 3 роки тому +16

    I've got trouble with the stock pressurised portafilter: if I grind finer, it often gets totally stuck (blocked, with no flow). It happens more often on the smaller (8 gram) one. The problem is the coffee is definitely NOT too fine for espresso. I am so fed up with it that I ordered the bottomless non-pressurised portafilter to try doing things the right way.

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому +14

      I don't like using a single basket, I use a double and bottomless, it's easier and the coffee tastes better.

    • @davidj.lobina3712
      @davidj.lobina3712 2 роки тому +6

      The coffee tastes better with a double dose? Obviously not an Italian.

    • @cassyguy
      @cassyguy 2 роки тому +11

      I think that's just how pressurised baskets work. You need to grind coarser because the basket gives a lot of extra pressure.

    • @stephenw1799
      @stephenw1799 2 роки тому +2

      Are you tamping too hard or have you forgotten to insert the metal filter with the rubber surround into the basket? i heard that tamping is not needed with pressurised portafilters. Mine does block sometimes if the one hole in the basket gets blocked or if i forget to insert the metal filter.

    • @aryudifh
      @aryudifh Рік тому

      You sould grind the coffee with medium to fine size, if using pressurised portafilter..

  • @kasraghamari7896
    @kasraghamari7896 3 роки тому +7

    The grind size must be changed for the pressurised one and I couldn’t see any difference between them
    On the other hand you tamped it soooo hard and this will make the extraction time consuming and moreover it will taste like crap!not espresso

    • @wisecoconut5
      @wisecoconut5 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed. The grind was too fine for the pressurized filter and created too much resistance and channeling for good extraction.

  • @Frontistiria-Ntolkou
    @Frontistiria-Ntolkou Рік тому +16

    About the portafilter: A bottomless portafilter and a "normal" one should have no difference regarding the way they work. The difference is at the Delonghi default basket. Delonghi uses by default a pressurized basket that is very good to make a so-so coffe from any bean and grind so to make anyone feel a little like a barista at home. But it's definetely not good if u go for a higher quality taste with a budget machine. For this you need if you can't affort a more expensive machine then you go for the most basic upgrades: Normal basket and freshly grinded, thoroughly weighted coffe (the better quality the better the result). If u get the bottomless portafilter it will help you become better at espresso making by giving you access to watch the extraction. Nothing more. So: Non pressurized portafilter and a tamper that fits it. Scales. Quality coffe beans and grinder or freshly grinded coffe. A tip: Avoid re-freezing coffe beans. If you insist of keeping your beans in the freezer then devide them in portions and get out of the freezer what you need a night before.

    • @mateuszparus
      @mateuszparus Рік тому

      What better machine would you recommend instead of this one?

    • @Frontistiria-Ntolkou
      @Frontistiria-Ntolkou Рік тому +1

      @@mateuszparus I wouldn't dare suggesting a specific one. But it will be very easy for you to find the best canditates that your pocket can buy if you spend some time in youtube or other online searching. All i know is that you should basicaly aim for a "premium" type of machine as a top goal but you can always stop aiming higher if you find the one that suits your taste. Because while an espresso can be made easily, for a good or a very good extraction you will definetely need a good or a very good machine on which you will have to spend some worthy time to find the ratios to produce a result to your liking and the same time create some of your your own solid knowledge. Coz there is no sealing really. There are people with shareable knowledge about espresso making and latte art and the same time they test different machines. Worth to chcek if you decided to brew your own coffe.

    • @aligossas9431
      @aligossas9431 11 місяців тому

      How about a good grinder ??

    • @Frontistiria-Ntolkou
      @Frontistiria-Ntolkou 11 місяців тому

      @@aligossas9431 Yes! But a good grinder is also an expensive grinder. I use "Porlex Tall" a hand grinder that suits my budget for a quality ceramic blade grinder. That also dictates how mutch to count as a portion when i seperate the bag into smaller ones. I grind a batch for myself and keep it in a small glass container. It will last for 4,5 single shoots for sure. My wife does the same for her coffe. The cleaning is easy and we can experiment a bit with the grind size.

    • @ryankwan1934
      @ryankwan1934 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mateuszparus I think a Lelit Anna with the PID and a Eureka Mignon is a good start. If money is tight, then spend it on the grinder first and upgrade the machine several years down the line. They may seem like a lot, but think of it this way: 3 Euros (or however it is at your local coffee shop) for coffee every day adds up very fast when you start making your own coffee at home. We usually do three cappuccini and three doppio espressi per day. That's easily 30 € at a local coffee. Shop. The grinder and espresso machine pays for itself in under a year.

  • @KonstantinosLeimonis
    @KonstantinosLeimonis 4 роки тому +6

    Where did you get the bottomless portafiler from? Is there a link to share?

    • @adameichler
      @adameichler 4 роки тому +1

      Search for "dedica bottomless" on Aliexpress. They have a lot of different finishes shipping all over the world.

    • @LDWilliams
      @LDWilliams 4 роки тому +2

      also on Ebay and amazon, but all look to be coming from the same few suppliers from China

    • @kastierV
      @kastierV 3 роки тому

      @@adameichler i bought one from aliexpres, but it is splashing, coffee is flowing to the handle. i do not know what am I doing wrong.

    • @adameichler
      @adameichler 3 роки тому

      @@kastierV the basket must have a bit of a lip around the edge to seal properly. Some of the cheap ones don't. Maybe you might bend the edges slightly with pliers.

  • @nrieh4553
    @nrieh4553 Рік тому +2

    I use the stock 685 portafilter with an old stock calssic (double)basket from Delonghi bar14. It fits, locks and pour pours just fine. It had outlived the old machine, and I'm glad that I kept it "just in case". I'm going to remove the plastic thingy from the holder, it does not do any good for a non-pressure basket anyway, but I'd love to seal the screw hole somehow. Even "as is", I prefer it over the original pressurized basket. Might get a botomless portafilter, eventually.

    • @Scarecrow_Krieg
      @Scarecrow_Krieg 4 місяці тому

      I've been thinking about that screw as well. Some kind of a nut is needed, but I might be too lazy to go find the right one lol.

  • @rohanparti5062
    @rohanparti5062 Рік тому +1

    Any reason why you used the single shot button rather than the double shot one?

  • @Sotogoku
    @Sotogoku 3 місяці тому

    0:31 what's the GRIND SIZE?

  • @sabrinaazrad2688
    @sabrinaazrad2688 2 роки тому +1

    Hi. Very new to coffee here, and just purchased the bottomless portafilter. Would any of you know what’s a good grind size using the Breville grinder?

  • @sypermayor
    @sypermayor Рік тому

    А мы на алиэкспресс всякую хню покупаем

  • @heliu5
    @heliu5 4 роки тому +2

    have you done anything to the machine's water pressure? for me, in 18gr out 36gr takes 12 seconds.. for me it seems the dedica takes time rather the water volume when you configure the two brewing buttons.

    • @whoami724y
      @whoami724y 4 роки тому +2

      is your grind size fine enough? or is your tamping pressure heavy enough? you should try and check those two variables

    • @heliu5
      @heliu5 4 роки тому +1

      @@whoami724y i'm guessing the grind size is the issue. i use a cheap blade grinder at the moment. tamping pressure should be okay. i was very surprised to see that 18-36 could be achieved for more than 20 seconds as I thought it's impossible with the Dedica due to the water pressure. but, i'm getting a proper grinder soon and will check.

    • @whoami724y
      @whoami724y 4 роки тому +1

      @@heliu5 well there's your problem, blade grinder is a no no for espresso. you should get baratza sette, i hear its good for espresso

    • @lionelpeer4097
      @lionelpeer4097 4 роки тому

      @@heliu5 the grinder will definitely be the issue. i just bought the Sage Dose Control Pro and i'm very impressed by what it delivers at this price point

    • @andrescyfy570
      @andrescyfy570 3 роки тому

      @@lionelpeer4097 100% support that. Great value for the money.

  • @bensdemosongs
    @bensdemosongs Рік тому

    At 2:50 when the initial pour starts for me, it’s dark and clear and then a couple seconds later gets foamier. Why is this? Old beans?

  • @1ayginin
    @1ayginin 3 роки тому +1

    Hello, in the video do you use the single shot basket for the original portafilter or the double shot basket? Thanks

    • @ArtyHome
      @ArtyHome  3 роки тому

      double shot basket.

    • @1ayginin
      @1ayginin 3 роки тому

      @@ArtyHome Thanks

  • @pcrate20
    @pcrate20 2 роки тому

    hi, Unfortunately the bottomless portafilter is current unavailable in amazon, do you have another links for this product?..thank you

  • @redeye8386
    @redeye8386 2 роки тому

    What temperature is best ? Low , medium or high temperature? Thanks for reply

    • @Milan1Nikolic
      @Milan1Nikolic Рік тому +1

      High. It's also interesting that the device can't provide stable high temperature during the extraction process, there is a video about it on YT.

  • @bannarak3949
    @bannarak3949 3 роки тому

    So if i want to sell coffee, i just add 14g.still get the same weight result just taking bit longer