Wata Games SUED in Federal Court

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  • Опубліковано 17 тра 2022
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    Wata Games - the game grading company - is facing a federal class-action lawsuit. We discuss the details and what we think will happen.
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  • @PatTheNESpunk
    @PatTheNESpunk  2 роки тому +16

    What do you think about the lawsuit? Do you think it will go anywhere or will business continue as usual for Wata? What about the graded game market? Go to store.munkpack.com/discount/cupodcast and use code CUPODCAST to get 20% off your first purchase! Thanks to Munk Pack for partnering with us!

    • @deltaruin
      @deltaruin 2 роки тому

      Even if Wata tanks it probably won't be long till another tries the same thing. Or the crypto bros try their hand at another pump and dump scam.

    • @Hollywoodsbest00
      @Hollywoodsbest00 2 роки тому +1

      Hey Pat and Ian, been a fan for a long time. I just wanted to make one clarification on civil jury trials and how many jurors must agree on a verdict. In Federal Civil Suits the 12 person jury verdict must be unanimous. What you were talking about is the evidentiary standard for a burden of proof.
      As you said in criminal trials the burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt.
      However, in civil trials the burden of proof is by a preponderance of the evidence. Essentially the jury must determine that with the evidence presented it is more likely than not that the plaintiff's claim is true. basically any percentage greater than 50%. But all 12 jurors must agree.
      It is different if this was a California State Civil Suit. That only requires 75% of the jurors agree, so 9 of the 12 jurors must agree.

    • @apocalypticminister1369
      @apocalypticminister1369 2 роки тому

      We don't comment on much but, we know what's going on...

    • @lifestyle936
      @lifestyle936 2 роки тому

      I don't know much about grading stuff, I'm just a collector I'm not looking for value. But this whole wata thing is annoying I'd almost say scam. I mean it's one thing if wata themselves said they couldn't keep up,but they're dumping it on everyone else and as a collector I'd say that is the equivalent of dog poop.

    • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
      @godchi1dvonsteuben770 2 роки тому +2

      It's the vintage video game Market equivalent of insider trading, plain and simple.

  • @JGreen-le8xx
    @JGreen-le8xx 2 роки тому +37

    They need to go to prison for fraud.

  • @JestaShezarrTeamA
    @JestaShezarrTeamA 2 роки тому +60

    This is what happens when hobbies becomes investments. Sorry but these people flip hobbies into profits and there's snakes like these in every single hobby. It ruins the fun that actual collectors enjoy.

    • @Dire_Hit
      @Dire_Hit 2 роки тому

      Makes it expensive not less fun.

    • @GeneSimmonsBoots
      @GeneSimmonsBoots 2 роки тому

      @@Dire_Hit depends on your budget for hobbies.

    • @Mamimigaming
      @Mamimigaming 2 роки тому

      @@Dire_Hit not everyone is upper middle class

    • @Boogerdick69
      @Boogerdick69 Рік тому

      @@Dire_Hit it’s less fun cause it’s harder to find. You go to a thrift store that would normally have 1 guy in the video game section, now there’s 18. All just scanning with their phones to resell

    • @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677
      @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 Рік тому

      It makes niche kinda boring hobbies into fun entertainment tho

  • @turbomario
    @turbomario 2 роки тому +46

    lmao wata deserves to get sued if anything, ruining the collecting community

  • @annareismith6843
    @annareismith6843 2 роки тому +44

    I do not like the employees selling things. They could switch your higher grade game for a lower grade one. So they make more money on your higher grade game that is sealed in a box you can not open to make sure it was the one you sent to them.

  • @Sejju
    @Sejju 2 роки тому +31

    Haha Awesome, I was literally just fired from Heritage Auctions because I told them no when they asked me to start doing shady stuff. The Head of our department had already been led out of the company for money laundering 2 months ago.

    • @DefWun
      @DefWun 2 роки тому +1

      👀

    • @JTSuter
      @JTSuter 2 роки тому +8

      What did they ask you to do? Now’s your chance to expose your story

    • @Sejju
      @Sejju 2 роки тому +9

      @@JTSuter It became a power vacuum, and they were using the lower employees (me and a few others) to sabotage the other group so they couldn't gain the newly opened Movie Posters division that Grey Smith (yeah pretty vague name) left after being led out of the company.
      This ultimately hurt Hertiage the company themselves, because the sabotage was stuff like dumping paperwork, misplacing Lots that people had won in auction, and other things that would through wrenches into the mix and slow down operations. I was fired on a day that a huge shipment was coming in that had rare silent movie posters for Lost media (movies that no longer exist in any form). This project was a big deal, and we were told to help out. The OPs lead then told us after the meeting that we would not be helping and instead waste time looking for a single lot that had been missing for around 3 years at that point.
      I responded that we were helping to unload the truck, I was told I was disobeying a direct order, was fired on the spot, led out of the building, and all my account info/email/records was then cleaned and deleted within the time it took me to drive home.
      Fun Stuff.

    • @bluedistortions
      @bluedistortions Рік тому +1

      So that's why "Mad Dog" stopped talking about video games and started hocking movie posters. Ha.

    • @bluedistortions
      @bluedistortions Рік тому +1

      ​@@Sejju I've always said, you're not really a good guy unless you're willing to do the right thing and be punished for it. You're a good guy, and I hope you found a company that likes that. They're rare.

  • @JTSuter
    @JTSuter 2 роки тому +15

    I really hope there is no settlement out of court. We all want to see their dirty dealings out in broad daylight. That is more valuable than a settlement payout.

  • @paulrr5711
    @paulrr5711 2 роки тому +64

    Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of all this pointless grading and the hobby becomes back to what was meant to be, having fun collecting and playing old and new video games.

    • @JohnSmith-zl8rz
      @JohnSmith-zl8rz 2 роки тому +9

      After WATA I stop to collecting, the hobby is dead, I hate WATA.

    • @waynekline6798
      @waynekline6798 2 роки тому +3

      @@JohnSmith-zl8rz agree and i hope this makes the bubble of over price games pop

    • @UsernameBlank123
      @UsernameBlank123 2 роки тому

      @@waynekline6798 Which games do you consider overpriced?

    • @waynekline6798
      @waynekline6798 2 роки тому +2

      @@UsernameBlank123 games that say use to be $20 but the rocketed back to its it old retail price like the older cheap ps2 games

    • @GeneSimmonsBoots
      @GeneSimmonsBoots 2 роки тому +2

      @@UsernameBlank123
      Pretty much all of them right now.

  • @GamingHistorySource
    @GamingHistorySource 2 роки тому +21

    I hope that everyone who dove into this & hoarded all these games lose their asses over it.

    • @UsernameBlank123
      @UsernameBlank123 2 роки тому

      As long as you keep collection it won't happen

    • @Ozhull
      @Ozhull 2 роки тому +1

      @@UsernameBlank123 that's not how the world works buddy. This isn't a stock. The losses are realized whether they sell or not.

    • @UsernameBlank123
      @UsernameBlank123 2 роки тому

      @@Ozhull At the end of the day I'm going to sell my games for a profit whether you agree or not.

    • @alex12104
      @alex12104 2 роки тому +1

      I’ve got a big collection

    • @GamingHistorySource
      @GamingHistorySource 2 роки тому

      @@UsernameBlank123 I'm only talking about people who hoarded large collections with the intent of making a huge profit. Not for the love of collecting but for the love of greed. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate capitalism but abusers always screw the system up Just like the ass hats at WATA Games.

  • @clintoncronin2504
    @clintoncronin2504 2 роки тому +14

    The point isn’t some big conviction . The class action could be for anything , it doesn’t matter. It’s what is unearthed during discovery that will ultimately be a disaster for anyone who broke the law or had a hand in some sort of market manipulation. There’s little to be gained for class members in a potential settlement at face value . All this case does is allow all kinds of records , statements, etc to be subpoenaed by the attorneys going after wata during the discovery phase of this case.

    • @caseystrange
      @caseystrange 2 роки тому +2

      I disagree. The FINAL Judgement and interpretations of statutory and federal law will be the most important part of this case. It will determine the legal aspects of the used market that will last for years to come in how we interpret the law as well as future cases involving this community.

  • @davebladegun3009
    @davebladegun3009 2 роки тому +40

    I agree with Pat 100%. Halperin is so clearly guilty of shenanigans and I bet that can be made to stick in court on some level.

  • @azure1259
    @azure1259 2 роки тому +8

    Pat, Ian and Karl Jobst, all stick to their guns and are not afraid to call out liars. All three took a ton of crap for it too in the form of lawsuits and personal attacks, but still justifiably came out on top.

  • @chaosdimension6433
    @chaosdimension6433 2 роки тому +28

    I despise graded games...

  • @jackflackatari
    @jackflackatari 2 роки тому +13

    Everyone who was in on this at Wata,
    Needs to do prison time!

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому

      No. No. Are prisons are for real criminals who murder and rape etc etc. I know Biden flipped that script and thinks the opposite. But we shouldn’t waste a inch of prison space on this. Simple 20 year probation. 10 year house arrest. No access to internet. Not able to hold a business license. Things like that work well enough.

  • @shorterrecording
    @shorterrecording 2 роки тому +9

    In a perfect world, Ian would be going to law school and Pat would be an investigative journalist.

  • @pepealexandre
    @pepealexandre 2 роки тому +6

    Rich tomorrow: the birds are getting sued! Let's get into it.
    Oh, wait...

  • @JQM78
    @JQM78 2 роки тому +16

    In response to the people with “Sealed game holdings”, umm those people were fools to begin with. Dont feel bad at all for those fools 🤣

  • @jim1174
    @jim1174 2 роки тому +5

    The sad thing is that no matter what bad thing wata does people are still sending in their games to be graded.

  • @PaulRockey
    @PaulRockey 2 роки тому +5

    Grading sealed games is stupid to me. I collect complete in box, and that’s it. Doesn’t have to be mint, but it has to look reasonably nice. I don’t care about grading at all. What matters is my opinion on how nice it looks in my collection.

    • @JTSuter
      @JTSuter 2 роки тому +3

      @@anniemaywholesale3288 if it’s graded and slabbed then I guess it doesn’t really matter what happens to the game inside since it will never be used.

  • @GardenerEarthGuy
    @GardenerEarthGuy 2 роки тому +5

    IGC and fines from the 1980s are part of Heritage...

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому +1

      Yep! That’s a BINGO! We lived through it with our coin store. They did more damage than a fat kid in a candy store

  • @thecunninlynguist
    @thecunninlynguist 2 роки тому +10

    Wata failure. Let's bankrupt'em

  • @joeyawesomeness6142
    @joeyawesomeness6142 2 роки тому +3

    Did you see that guy who went on pawn stars with the NWC carts? Crazy

  • @super256colors2
    @super256colors2 2 роки тому +3

    I remember at one point during the craze around one of the Mario games going for a million that there was some investment app allowing people to "buy shares" of expensive retro games and having , supposedly, some input on the sale of the item or something. I think it was a smaller topic Pat and Ian didn't revisit, but I'm wondering if that company or app is even still in business, or how this lawsuit will affect them. It already sounds scummy to own "shares" of say a famous art piece, but for a graded video game? Yeah, BS. I think it happened right before N*F*Ts blew up so maybe it didn't bother them as much at the time.

    • @callak_9974
      @callak_9974 2 роки тому

      Nah, they talked about it, shares anyway in some games. Hopefully that of course they can sell said game for a profit anyway.... They already have a profit from selling the shares in said game, then more profit possibly for the sale of the game.

  • @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
    @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct 2 роки тому +4

    Okay Pat & Ian, I ordered three boxes of keto-friendly Munk Packs using your #CUPodcast discount. Probably the first and only time your sponsorship influenced me to buy something

  • @Handleneeds3ormorecharacters9
    @Handleneeds3ormorecharacters9 2 роки тому +3

    As soon as a sealed copy of Mario 64 destroyed the record for the sealed copy of OG SMB, I knew it was off.

  • @shoked99
    @shoked99 2 роки тому +7

    Correction for Kotaku. Population reports are not “estimated guesses about how many sealed items, games in this case, of a certain quality still exist in the wild based on research and past work". They are an inventory of the games WATA has graded.

  • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
    @godchi1dvonsteuben770 2 роки тому +2

    It's the vintage video game Market equivalent of insider trading, plain and simple.

  • @trevorboyd7372
    @trevorboyd7372 2 роки тому +2

    I've reached out to a number of authors to news articles about these games being sold at high prices and the incorrect reasoning as to why they are sold so high. I have had 0 response. I'm wondering how many news branches are being manipulated by Jim Halperin.

  • @rbourgoine1
    @rbourgoine1 2 роки тому +4

    i hope everything with a WATA grade becomes worth nothing.

  • @kevinc8633
    @kevinc8633 Рік тому +1

    Where can I find a copy of the complaint?

  • @johnriff85
    @johnriff85 2 роки тому +6

    What an absolute cluster. It's a real shame that there's always a group willing to shit on someone's community and hobby by monetizing it to an absurd degree.

    • @UsernameBlank123
      @UsernameBlank123 2 роки тому

      You're likely the same person complaining about gas prices or housing cost, everyone is just trying to make a living.

    • @GrindWeCrust
      @GrindWeCrust 2 роки тому

      @@UsernameBlank123 lol, wow want to lick some more corporate shoes? You must work for Wata.

    • @tron.44
      @tron.44 11 місяців тому +1

      Making a living, just getting by and being filthy rich are the same?

    • @johnriff85
      @johnriff85 11 місяців тому

      @@tron.44 making a living and just getting by are an absurd degree?

  • @CAPCOM784
    @CAPCOM784 2 роки тому +4

    Sad it took this long to get the ball even rolling. I've said this for or a while that Wata was destroying our hobby. Really blows my mind that "gamers" knowingly what's been going on these last few years still taking it upon themselves encouraging what is happening still letting Wata grade their collections? Don't even get me started on these big time UA-camrs doing this same bs with their collections on social media. All of them should be ashamed and need to be called out. Wata is a cancer to gaming....

  • @MrDrokkul
    @MrDrokkul 2 роки тому +2

    It's BS to even charge more to grade an item depending on the value. You get the same examination, same plastic slab, same everything. It's a rip-off. The only reason it should cost ANY more is for insurance purposes of it being sent back and forth by whatever parcel carrier is used.

  • @MikeRox83
    @MikeRox83 2 роки тому

    There is definitely a market for grading simply for a method in which people can know the condition of what they are buying. Are Wata or even any other existing grading companies appropriate for that? I really doubt it.
    But I would love to be able to pay a fee if I wanted to sell a really good condition copy of a game for both seller and buyer peace of mind. But not to artificially inflate game prices, just a much cheaper and cruder thing of we rate this X/10 on condition.

  • @Jono1874
    @Jono1874 2 роки тому +9

    I want to see them all go to prison. Take everything they own and give it to needy people. They've earned nothing but the disdain of the people.

  • @emolovetree
    @emolovetree 2 роки тому +4

    I feel like the market manipulation is gonna be more of a government case in another couple years after the investors lose their shirts and want their money back because they feel misled

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому

      Probably is they would have to try and get them on a RICCO

  • @mrfivegold
    @mrfivegold 2 роки тому +1

    This price hikes wouldn't happen if these games were available for purchase. Nintendo needs to release physical editions of classic games for modern consoles.

  • @gerardhill6163
    @gerardhill6163 11 місяців тому

    This was the first time I have actively chosen to watch your channel and, with no introduction, am marketed to without any context. I’d like to think this was simply an oversight during your clipping this from a larger streamed event.

  • @mrj9881
    @mrj9881 2 роки тому +5

    This brings me joy

  • @adamhoffoss5768
    @adamhoffoss5768 2 роки тому +1

    Unfortunately, this case will end the way most of this nature do. A settlement will be made and everyone will go about their business. It's unfortunate, but money talks and when you offer someone enough of it to go away, that's inevitably what will happen. Wata made FAR more by inflating the cost to grade for higher prices than they will be "forced" to pay in settlement, so there's no reason to even let this go anywhere. It's unfortunate, cause people like this should get what they deserve. Granted, people that don't know anything about the gaming market shouldn't get suckered into "investing" in this either, but that's another story.

  • @labnine3362
    @labnine3362 2 роки тому +1

    "How do I get out now?" is the question every sensible person asks at the end of a bubble. The snake is now eating it's tail.

  • @dopestar1975
    @dopestar1975 2 роки тому +5

    I refuse to pay high prices for games local store has 2 ps1 games on my list both used 100 bucks no way

  • @panikk2
    @panikk2 Рік тому

    Something I'm not sure is being considered is that although it may be harder to prove monetary damages for consumers, the bigger factor for market manipulation is punitive damages. The latter often outweighs the former by a large factor in cases like this.

  • @Kornheadfan
    @Kornheadfan 2 роки тому +2

    Now who's going to grade my sealed copy of Chicken Shoot on the Wii?!? 🤣🤣

  • @philipquaglino
    @philipquaglino Рік тому +1

    it will stop the absurd prices but will forever affect the landscape and introduced more to collecting. So you will see common carts sell for $1-$10 again and then still have the highly hard to find games and still see the $1000 rare carts. The $1,000,000 game is dead.

  • @treyprice04
    @treyprice04 2 роки тому

    The restitution will be a $5 refund if you bought a service that wasn’t fulfilled. I worked at Circuit City in early 2000s. There was an extended warranty class action lawsuit filed. The remedy for that was $10 off the purchase of your next extended warranty.

  • @Videogamelover58
    @Videogamelover58 2 роки тому +4

    Wonderful news!

  • @no_alternative9071
    @no_alternative9071 Рік тому

    How does someone actually join the class action lawsuit? I only see news of it.

  • @jamesross9469
    @jamesross9469 2 роки тому +1

    Pats doing his best positive vibe and the other dude sounds like his dealer ran out of snoochie poochies

  • @brandname6
    @brandname6 2 роки тому +1

    The art market is full of this kinda slimy behavior too.

  • @jeffreyjeffrey007
    @jeffreyjeffrey007 2 роки тому +3

    You could say that the extended turn around times contributed to losses incurred to the grading submissors; Wata said it would be graded and returned in x time, but it took y time, therefore the plaintiff lost z amount of potential profit.

  • @keard558
    @keard558 2 роки тому +1

    I haven't listened in a couple years, man Ian gained a bunch. COVID did me dirty too. Hope youll turn things around in the future.

  • @pizzamon795
    @pizzamon795 2 роки тому +4

    Oh crap this is big news

  • @jwill7998
    @jwill7998 2 роки тому +1

    "I can't count the figures."
    Seven.

  • @justvisiting4229
    @justvisiting4229 2 роки тому +1

    I hope Heritage Auctions goes down too. They are so shady and unethical.

  • @ssam1337
    @ssam1337 2 роки тому

    Intresting to follow. Will gamers defend there market from becoming a bubble and overall dirty business.

  • @alexcren7127
    @alexcren7127 2 роки тому +2

    It should go somewhere, but will it?

    • @RetroHabit82
      @RetroHabit82 2 роки тому +1

      Most likely not. Ian is right, without hard factual evidence, nothing will stick.

  • @bergfruehling
    @bergfruehling 2 роки тому +4

    How much longer til we get that compilation of "Tommy's" calls?

  • @shane_MK
    @shane_MK 2 роки тому +1

    I think the trial is going to end with Jim Halperin on the stand. And the lawyer is going to say did you order the code red? And Jim is going to say you're damn right I did.

  • @ChristopherTradeshow
    @ChristopherTradeshow 2 роки тому

    I miss when I could find Gameboys for 20 bucks... now they're so expensive

  • @Sperminski
    @Sperminski 2 роки тому +1

    Didn’t you appear on Pawn Stars Pat?

  • @RetroHabit82
    @RetroHabit82 2 роки тому +1

    When y'all gonna sue CGC?? I'm still waiting almost a year for a comic!

  • @seanlove3906
    @seanlove3906 2 роки тому +1

    Oh wow what happened to jd harmeyer from Howard Stern? He aged horribly

  • @jonas6627
    @jonas6627 2 роки тому +2

    Grading is a joke for games and cards, right there is when you know someone is only into it for the money 💰

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому

      Well cards I can kinda get. Let me explain. Cards are two sided so the can be enjoyed even when they are slabbed. The slabbing also adds some very good protection from air, water, folds, etc damages. So can understand protecting them. As the over the counter plastics don’t offer quite the same.

  • @raymxslappedyall1891
    @raymxslappedyall1891 2 роки тому +1

    they got too greedy, there's no reason mario64 should ever go for that price .

  • @justsayin4632
    @justsayin4632 2 роки тому +1

    Just waiting for the Demented Dentist (aka Pats #1 fan) to chime in and try and defend this😂

  • @thestuff10
    @thestuff10 2 роки тому +1

    SEEEEAALLED!!

  • @agentskazzers3482
    @agentskazzers3482 2 роки тому

    This is great!!

  • @chaospoet
    @chaospoet 2 роки тому +3

    I hope they get the book thrown at them. They are part (not direct, but definitely a noticeable part) about WHY retro game prices are as high as they've been. When people think a Mario game is worth say $50 cib similar games are priced accordingly. When people think a Mario game is worth a MILLION DOLLARS it (to be perfectly blunt) royally fucks up what the prices of similar games should be sold for. I think if this all crashes and burns you'll see the price of retro games drop. Not to cheap, but it wouldn't surprise me if across the board with this nonsense out of the picture if prices dropped by 30 percent to more understandable, reasonable, we of the retro community can all agree upon value. It's assholes like this manipulating the market that makes it so confusing. We all agree a game should be worth a bit of money but when it's a LOT of money and we're all looking at each other like "Did you raise the price? I didn't raise the price? Who raised the price?" that's a problem that should have Prison time attached to it to stamp it out for good.

  • @robbymulvany2109
    @robbymulvany2109 2 роки тому

    Damn you Jim Halpert.

  • @dendostar5436
    @dendostar5436 2 роки тому +4

    I like everything Pat is saying here.

  • @BITPLAKIS
    @BITPLAKIS 2 роки тому

    Pumping prices.

  • @Mr.Persia958
    @Mr.Persia958 2 роки тому

    CGC is next if this lawsuit wins. Allot of disgruntled customers there too.

  • @HiroesX81
    @HiroesX81 2 роки тому +1

    Before: 'Get in early!" Now: "Get out get out get out!"

    • @RetroHabit82
      @RetroHabit82 2 роки тому

      I got in early. Only have less than $100 total invested into WATA at the moment. Still have a Pop 1 title.

    • @RetroReminiscence
      @RetroReminiscence 2 роки тому

      @@RetroHabit82 which title

  • @oriondx72
    @oriondx72 2 роки тому +1

    Wata and HA need to be sued!

  • @GOLDWULF
    @GOLDWULF 2 роки тому

    Hey Pat, we’re you on Pawn Stars? 😂

  • @joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451
    @joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451 2 роки тому

    My WATA graded Amico controller is gonna go for big bucks!

  • @MrERLoner
    @MrERLoner 2 роки тому

    Save games arent the only thing that can be corrupted

  • @Feelthefelt
    @Feelthefelt 2 роки тому +3

    I just realized I was confusing WATA with WETA. I was like "Boy Pat is being real mean to the Hobbit CGI folks"

    • @jimmyt7233
      @jimmyt7233 2 роки тому +2

      And here all I did was confuse WATA with NAMBLA

    • @Feelthefelt
      @Feelthefelt 2 роки тому

      @@jimmyt7233 Maybe they'll mention how WATA sounds like WETA in that article about why people don't like WATA.

  • @deenaxic9134
    @deenaxic9134 2 роки тому

    1/15th of this video is advertisment. Start video at 2:00

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 2 роки тому +4

    Every single retro collector knows there’s something very hinky going on with the graded games market. Doesn’t mean illegal behavior can be proved in court.

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому

      Oh it can. With computer searches and forensic accountants etc. I don’t think these boys are that smart. See he got his pee pee slapped back before you were born for some shady auction stuff. So he isn’t very bright

    • @tron.44
      @tron.44 11 місяців тому +1

      I hope WATA and heritage burn to the ground. Greasey, greedy, gullible and getting got.

  • @crimsonshadow7459
    @crimsonshadow7459 2 роки тому +2

    Wata mess this is

  • @Gumba213
    @Gumba213 2 роки тому +2

    Trash company, ruined the market. Time to kick him to the curb

  • @Whurlpuul
    @Whurlpuul 2 роки тому

    Good

  • @brianwessel678
    @brianwessel678 2 роки тому

    Oh no they getting sued wata Tragedy

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 2 роки тому

    glad this happened let justice be served

    • @TimmiiGamingChannel
      @TimmiiGamingChannel 2 роки тому

      I heard they gonna move the court to Colorado because there's no lawsuit for defamation.

  • @jamesaltman7432
    @jamesaltman7432 2 роки тому

    He needs to look after himself!!

  • @harrisonwhaley7872
    @harrisonwhaley7872 2 роки тому

    Every time I hear Munk Pack I think of weed lmao

  • @KentRoads
    @KentRoads 2 роки тому

    Free the games!

  • @heisensaul5538
    @heisensaul5538 2 роки тому +1

    They should go to prison, but I think Ian is right and Wata will probably settle.

  • @chrissawyer1484
    @chrissawyer1484 2 роки тому

    If WATA is smart, they should settle.
    I know, IF.

  • @michael_stout79
    @michael_stout79 2 роки тому

    I can't eat nuts

  • @surferbrg
    @surferbrg 2 роки тому +1

    I'd be laughing if one of these lawsuits ends up making it to People's Court or any of those TV court shows. Have seen my share of video game lawsuits on The Peoples Court in the past and at times.

  • @MrMasteroftrades
    @MrMasteroftrades 2 роки тому

    I think they should be shut down too there making retro video games go up in prices they make me mad I hope they go out of business

  • @SMAAAASHTV
    @SMAAAASHTV 2 роки тому

    Deniz Khan and Jim Halperin should be fined millions and be put behind bars for insider trading.

  • @sunnohh
    @sunnohh 2 роки тому +1

    Ian is pretty well versed in the law, ianal though

  • @apocalypticminister1369
    @apocalypticminister1369 2 роки тому +1

    I never talk about these things but, our games are worthwhile to collect for... But, don't destroy our love by using schemes and manipulation.... Period, time won't give me time...

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому

      Been happening since the first guy dug up that shinny rock 10 thousand years ago.

  • @Psiros
    @Psiros 2 роки тому +1

    Ironically, if Wata is shut down, someone will claim the rarity of sealed games contained in Wata graded cases.

    • @salvagemonster3612
      @salvagemonster3612 Рік тому +1

      Ehhh seen in the 90’s when a certain company coin grading was exposed. I can remember sitting at buddies coin store cracking open them slabbed company coins. He had guys flooding in wanting refunds and others trying to get something out of them. We had so many come in , in a week. He started paying just scrap on them. People were happy to sell. Difference is, a silver coin is still 90% silver. A Nintendo game or vhs is just a lump of plastic that will take 1000 years in a landfill to break down

  • @toddhouchin3252
    @toddhouchin3252 Рік тому

    Absolute Punk. I'd pay more if you rip that WATA junk off of the game.

  • @Somaiscariot
    @Somaiscariot 2 роки тому +1

    Unethical doesn’t necessarily mean illegal. A lot of the things they did are predatory, and they got a lot of money from a lot of people, but that doesn’t make it illegal. People making stupid investments aren’t necessarily protected.
    Also, it’s seven figures, Pat.