Although a few Porsche models get rated higher in the DougScore, this is the one I'd have -- hands down. For me, the best modern Porsche. Porsche, please make it with three pedals!
@Paul S and still they sell like crazy , owners love them and the reviewers always give them praise …would be stupid by them to change a winning concept
Doug is fairly harsh, but realistic with his grading. I agree a 7 would be better, but in the end it's more or less subjective with just some objective metrics.
THISSS may just be Doug's best car review ever. The man played this Porsche like a musical instrument. When I close my eyes I can still hear flat six engine song, 9000 rpm strong. Truly THE virtuoso video of the channel.
@@blueazure9658 , they make my fav four cylinders...in 90'.....and these cars are so easy and cheap to ride as daily, even tday, and they bring the smile on everyone, who drove it. I take a lesson from history, where there was better place to live, from these ones.
This is the first time I've ever been interested in ANY version of the Cayman. This particular color, this spec... it just does it for me. Yup, I want one! This car is gorgeous and it sounds fantastic!
8:22 makes the car more aerodynamic by letting out air trapped in the wheel arches-> reduced air pressure - > reduced air pressure gradient ->reduced drag coefficient & less lift (more down force at the front)
Nahh its not really about the drag. As Andreas Preuniger Head of GT Department said in a podcast they have to do it, because of the amount of downforce at the back of the Car when it comes to RS models. It is necesarry because otherwise the Balance of the Car would suck.
Hey Doug, just FYI: the logo on the front hood is not only a decal for weight reasons, it's also because embedding it in the carbon fiber hood would increase cost and complicate manufacturing. It's not impossible, just cheaper that way. The put it on every carbon fiber front hood. The weight-saving-claim is probably just a marketing thing and negligible.
Porsche saw Singer and realized that the collectible nature of min-maxxed cars is off the charts. E.g. what would happen if you put the best of everything available to Porsche on any given model? GT3RS engine/Trans/suspension/brakes on the 718 model. It's fabulous. It's like the 914-6. Those values are insane right now.
I agree with just about everything you’ve said, I have a 2009 Cayman S that is a complete track car, stripped out interior coil over suspension yada yada yada. I was dying to get my hands on a GT four with a PDK, and was looking forward to this car as well. When I saw that they were basically going to be unobtainable for at least a couple of years, I went and bought a 2019 GT3RS. It’s quite a special car, I don’t regret my choice. And I still have my Cayman. The wife and I both track our cars, and we do about 50 to 60 track days a year.
@@michelleobamasthicccocc822 what the heck man you don’t know me. I’m not bragging I’m just trying to see what’s up. In my garage right now is a 2019 GT3RS, I’m taking it to the track next Sunday as well. My wife is a business owner and I work for a large company we do very well.
@Jimmy Two Times Compared to where cars are going and how most have indeed become boring, I think we should just appreciate some of the last hurrahs before everything becomes electric.
@Jimmy Two Times you said porsche is heavier and etc then recommends the emira? If you watched car wow, they even said lotus makes lightweight nimble cars and the emira is heavy as hell. You just contradicted yourself. Cars have to be heavier for more modern regulations, safety standards. All that. Of that wasn't the case, the damn chaparral 2j would still be around somehow. 🙄
Only problem is at 6’2 I couldn’t get in a lotus Elise. Let alone consider fitting in one. Nice looking car though. Your practically sitting on the ground in the Elise it’s so low. Like a go kart
Absolutely love this car! I've always been a GT3 RS fan but this is focus driven like Doug said. It's a better track version of a GT3 RS. Some will hate me for saying that but the Mid engine really makes a different with performance. Less chance of oversteer or the rear sliding out on you cause the weight is centralized between the axles. I've only just found this new version of the 718 GT4 RS recently and I love it every bit of it. Doug said it rides terribly when you're on street and it's true, but nobody buys a car like this for the "Comfort". They buy it for show pieces(which I'm not a fan of) or they buy it to fulfill its racing heart. Porsche always has my heart. ❤
I've driven a lot of Porsches, and own 2. The 2 in my garage have the engine in the middle for a reason. Regardless of transmission this car will go down in Porsche history as one of the greats. Especially considering the mid-engined platform is slated to go EV.
EV Porsche Cayman / Boxter is not a real car... I want a car that you can drive and feel how it is alive, not a robotized dead machine that drive itself and must charge 1-2 hours in middle of every trip I go that is a little longer...
Probably considering all of the other cars he has driven, I think a 6 is appropriate from him. For the general population, a 7.5 is probably more accurate.
wing struts are disgusting though. Also no way Cayman is 10/10. What would be Carrera, Spyder or 911 GT3 then? (not even talking about older 911 models which are a lot nicer)
It is not very often when you see Doug so focused on driving that he doesn't talk much. He thoroughly enjoyed this ride and so did I. His expression said everything. I loved the sound and feel just by looking this on YT. Lucky are the people who get to experience this.
My grandparents were behind you when you took it for a drive! they said they saw a guy moving his hands like crazy in a fast yellow sports car! If I could aford a car close to this I would! Edit. They now know who ya are and love your reviews!
You know u have a truly great car at hand when Doug remains quiet rather than chat away when driving the car....... Amazing video.... Thanks Doug for the wonderfully detailed video of this great Porsche
Did everyone notice Doug's eyes at the 28:30 min mark? It was right after the Charger pulls up behind him he quickly glances down to the speedometer. And then did the side eye as it passed him. Hahaha! If I had a dollar everytime I've done that.... Awesome video, Doug
One "quirk" of the PDK: if you're cruising around and want to accelerate quickly, floor it and then press a little harder. There is a notch after what you think would be the bottom of the pedal. It instantly drops you into the lowest gear you can be in. Seems like not a lot of people know this.
It would also be around four hundred thousand USD after dealer markup, and thats being conservative. Its the type of thing Porsche said they want to avoid.
@@atramentar1883 You guys have to remember that there are other markets than the US and UK market. That insane ADM thing is not really being used anywhere else. My GT4RS comes in July, and I paid MSRP.
I’m a little surprised that so car companies are walking away from manuals in performance vehicles. I really think that car companies are underestimating how many people actually enjoy driving manuals. Especially in sport cars that are very visceral and well connected to the road.
Should add a sentence on "for the money" or "affordably" and also easier to maintain or not known for maintenance nightmares. I guess that's still leave lots of other cars like the Gallardo is pretty cheap now and sounds worse than this but still extremely good for the money, but has some big potholes in terms of ownership especially the auto trans units
This looks insanely good and sounds insanely good, from what I've heard Porsche's GT lineup have incredible chassis and they are really great cars to drive.
Having had my 2022 PDK GT4 for 4 mths now... Regarding the suspension harshness, at least on the GT4 (probably the GT4 RS as well), the main issue I feel isn't harshness, it's the damping. I found my GT4 to be quite unstable at high speed on CA crappy/broken pavement roads. The car moves around waaay too much. The compression is dialed too high and the rebound is under damped. I also found the front-end didn't "talk" well with what the rear-end was doing when the suspension is handling some of the larger bumps. The factory PASM suspension on the GT4 and probably RS are designed for smooth roads and tracks, not US crappy/broken pavement roads. I added MCS 2-way remote dampers to mine and it helped A LOT to make it much more stable at speed when the roads were less than perfect and made the front-end and rear-end a lot more cohesive with each other.
The former Top gear host tested the 911 Dakar and said he regretted baying the 911 GT something because the Dakar was MUCH more fun to drive with it soft high ride height and low grip gravel tires on tarmac. Cars that make good lap times on track is rarely fun cars to drive on normal roads... Most fun car to drive I ever had was a Opel Ascona B 1,9SR from 1976 with 90hp and rear wheel drive :) I bought in 2001 for 550$. Now a car like that cost 20.000 to 40.000 $ so I am instead of getting a new one like that getting a used Porsche Cayman as those now cost the same...
Having lived with a Cayman S for many years, I think even this track focused one should get a bump in practicality. The front and rear trunks make this thing great for daily driving and can handle some real luggage if you need to. Question for Doug, what is the line between sports car and super car. what car in your opinion is the entry point to supercardom?
Tough one, but IMO this isn't a supercar -- ultimately it's based on a Cayman. I think a supercar probably has to be purpose-built at least (same reason the Z06 isn't one).
@@DougDeMuro do you consider the 911 Turbo S, NSX or R8 a supercar? I’ve heard many journalists/UA-camrs all deny them supercar status, interested in your opinion.
Doug!!! Please bring the old format for the Doug's score! It makes it interesting to hear your perspective on the criteria. And it keeps the anticipation to see where you'd list it and how many points it'll get rather than getting the list straight away! 😊
According to Doug on Twitter: "Adds 1 minute to each video that I can't spend on quirks/features, which is what people want to see. Plus tons of me saying "Like all cars in this class, it gets a 5 out of 10 for practicality." Doesn't add much, but current format lets me give a good, concise, overall summary."
@@bonzobonanza That sucks. I've only started losing interest and leave the video at the end after this format. He used to do it for "More Doug Demuro" and it's understandable cause he'd review some "side" cars. But it's annoying to see it here on some major vehicles.
Doug I loved your enthusiasm during this video! You can tell you're not just an automotive journalist but one who actually appreciates such an awesome vehicle. I have a base Cayman and could only imagine myself reacting the same way as you if I had the opportunity to drive this car. Keep up the great content!
I agree 100%! Six speed manual on RS models will make sales skyrocket! I love hearing about all the corks and features of the RS, but the fact that it does not come in an optional manual configuration, makes me lean towards the regular GT4
I went to my local Porsche dealer and drove a 911, always wanted one. Took in for a drive and left a deposit. I thought about it over the weekend and wasn’t all that impressed. Went back in Monday and asked about taking the Boxster S out, Wow, I was impressed. Made the deal and drove it off the lot. The best secret, don’t tell anyone else.
Since 2 years Doug's like "screw Dougcember, i'm going to drop the bombs all over the year". I mean Koenigsegg Regera, Bugatti EB110, Ferrari SF90, Ferrari Monza, that black cubic vehicle thing, McLaren Elva (coming up soon) and some others. Need i say more? It's only logical to do so if he wants to survive in this car review industry. He became like a kid that couldn't wait to tell you what cars it has seen 😀
PPF would have to be mandatory on those fenders and other areas rocks get slung from the front tires. Hanging my left arm out of the window of my RX-7 leaves my arm stinging from tiny rocks, I can't imagine how mangled someone's arm would look hanging out of the window of one of these 😅
@@TheGardenMG same for me with Miata. I don’t get the hype for these 4 cylinder cars that have less then 200hp. I do get the hype with muscle cars like Mustang because they have V8 engines for less then $40k new or like less then $20k on the used
The magnesium wheels are expensive for many reasons but the logistics when manufacturing them are pretty insane. The magnesium billets are cast in the UK, they are forged and finish machined in Japan, then they are coated in Germany. That's a lot of travel. The magnesium roofs, which is available on the 911 GT3 RS and other RS models, is cast and rolled in South Korea (was finish rolled in the US at one point), formed and coated in Canada and then shipped to Germany. Just some insight on these magnesium supply chains.
Vs the standard GT4, it Gained 2 points on acceleration and cool factor but lost a point on fun factor, qualify and comfort. Beating the GT4 by 1 point in total score but price tag doubled. Doug just destroyed the new GT4RS 😂
Not really. At those price and dougscore levels, every additional point costs a lot more. In general, for $100k you can get anything you want. Every dollar you spend above has diminishing return. Even worse above 400k, where limited supercars and hypercars are. With those, you are paying for the privilege to show off the fact that you paid more. You don’t get objective advantage for your additional dollars spent there.
If you think about it, the closer you get to a race car - think series like GT cars from Porsche, GT-R cars from Mercedes - you inevitably lose most of the car's everyday functionality. The comfort goes down, the quality of materials is lower to save weight, but what you gain is a car that drives significantly better, accelerates more agressively. It's a trade-off. As Doug said, this car is for the people who want track-focused car 95% of the time. Everyone else is much better off aiming for a lower-tier Cayman, which is slower, but has all the quality of life equipment and characteristics.
Good review as always. The GT4 RS is a very nice car, but I am not sure I am feeling the potential $250+k price tag for this car would be considered a good value. Particularly when you have several cars with similar or better performance characteristics (ie., GTR, ZO6) with less expensive price tags. I get the current market and its associated markups, but even still $250K for a Cayman, you'd lose money in that investment. Those who would buy this car over $200k, are lovers of Porsche more than lovers of performance.
The GT4 cayman is the best "value" performance porsche at ~110-120k after options. It can go between track and street with no worries, you could daily drive it I guess, if you don't have a family. You could option it out for a really comfy interior, or go bare bones and make it a track monster. If you're looking at a car as an investment you're removing joy from the equation. Get on some wait lists, take factory/dealer reps out to crazy parties and buy and sell Lambos and Ferraris, I guess. This car is a step above the GT4 for someone who wants a dedicated track car and for whom the increase in price has no meaning.
I own a manual 2014 981 Cayman S, and every time I drive it, it amazes me. I can only imagine what the GT4RS feels like. What Doug states is true. I used to own two different 911's before my Cayman, and the Cayman is a far superior driving experience. I don't miss my 911's.
As much as a manual would be fun and add a new driving dimension, I feel that the PDK sound character is more befitting of that high revving 4.0. The manual doesn't have that "punchiness" that is like a drum beat to a perfect song. You lose that with the manual. The PDK is a lot more similar to the gearbox found in the GT4 race car, and to have that in your garage to use when and where you feel like, is a privilege.
Most people also don't know how to shift gears properly, so I agree with you. On the other hand, the experience of driving a manual is unrivaled. The perfect way would be for Porsche to release both, but let's be honest, then the PDK wouldn't sell. Enthusiasts are obsessed with manuals, even if just for the bragging rights.
I patiently waited through all the exterior quirks and features just to find out my worst nightmare. Kinda stopped paying attention once I found out it was auto. I get the PDK is fast. I get it’s fastER than a human. But I honestly don’t care. Sports cars should have manual transmissions available.
I've extensively driven the 718 GT4 in manual, 718 Cayman GTS in manual, and the previous 981 Cayman GTS in PDK. Have to say I've missed the PDK a bit. Even if it isn't a true three pedal enthusiast transmission, it is very fun to drive. We have the GT4 RS on order and I'm sure the PDK will be just as fun as a manual.
This may have gotten answered already, but is it only in America that it’s PDK only? I’m surprised that they are doing that considering that it’s well-known how many people want a manual… Maybe it’s because PDK/auto people are louder and annoying? (speaking from experience from a previous comment lamenting lack of a manual)
Okay what? We need to dissect the Doug Score here. How in the world is styling of the GT4RS the same rating as the GT4? I know a quirk was the 6 logos for the RS, but remove the door decals, my dream build wouldn't have those on it. It's an RS, so I would assume that styling should be higher than, IF NOT AT LEAST ON PAR, was the GT3 (okay the GT3 touring is sexy and I get that, I would put styling for it at an 8, keep normal GT3 at 7, and match the touring with the GT4RS at a score of 8 (you know this makes sense). The cool factor for this car should be a 10. I live in north scottsdale right by all the dealerships. I see multiple aventadors, 488's, mclarens, rolls royce, and GTxxx Porsches, MINUS THE GT4 OR RS. This car is more rare, more unique, and more cool. I've seen multiple GT2RS' in scottsdale and while I know they've been out longer, i still have yet to see a GT4RS in the wild, but doesn't that prove my point? This car is rare, and going to be an IFKYK car. I've drooled walking past GT4's and my non-car friends have no clue why I love it so much. So since this is an RS car, and extremely rare, cool factor is an automatic 9. ITS A CAYMAN WITH A GT3 SOURCED ENGINE. THAT'S SO COOL... PORSCHE DID THIS FOR US! The only way this could be a 10 is if they did two things. Add ventilated seats without compromising weight or performance (I live in AZ, sue me), and maybe something like a carbon roof. For me that was my favorite part of the older M6's, plus it's laden with carbon already. Again, how does quality suffer here in comparison to the GT4? This is Porsche, the Hummer of race cars. Make it on par with the GT4 at a 9. And features the same as a GT4? You have air intakes in the rear windows to hear induction. You have a GT3 engine in the back. These two features alone should give it a +1 just due to the fact that no other car has this. 911 purists can't debate (at least the motor) anymore against the 718. I guess though these features are based on daily practicality, I just would very much rather drive an RS over a GT4 as a daily because, well, PDK. So adding this back up the Doug Score should be: Styling: 8 Cool Factor: 9 Wknd Total: 44 (right below the GT2RS, right where God intended it to be), Features: 7 Quality: 9 Daily: 28 Total: 72 Tied for first place. Call me crazy but I would rather drive this over a Ferrari. But that's due to my disdain for Ferrari ever since Nick Cage walked into a dealership and told the dealer that he needed one because he saw too many of them in the starbucks parking lot in Gone in 60 Seconds, which i feel is on brand for what I think Ferrari owners are. Maybe dock one point on features because the features I listed aren't for daily use, though i'd use them daily, so sure, adjust it for that, have it at 71. Sorry I just really love the GT4RS.
I never really got into Doug Demuro, but have dabbled. I'm officially a fan. This guy knows what he's talking about about. Only a true gearhead/enthusiast would come to the same conclusion.
Seeing Doug drive that car in the neighborhood where I grew up brings back some big time nostalgia. Definitely driven wayyyy too fast on that same exact road. Scripps Ranch represent!
Doug giving a review of the GT4 RS while also giving tips on how to maintain the value by selecting bucket seats is the best advice yet! (assuming everyone is planning on buying one) 😅
I got 3 laps in one of these on a track day (thanks baby!). Truly a bucket list car. I am a hard core manual fan, but this PDK is amazing and makes so much more sense for this trim level than a manual. Back to real world if I were to purchase a Cayman/Boxster, it would be much closer to the entry level car with a stick of course. If you get a chance to do a track day in one of these, pull out the credit card and do it!
I'm not a car engineer myself, but as I hear almost every trained car guy say: Reducing rotational mass is one of the most effective ways to make a car drive better/safer/quicker . That's why all these "weight-reduced" moving parts are so much more expensive in return for the net weight they save. It's kinde the same with weight reduced cam shafts (other materials). They are on the one hand more sturdy to withstand more power but they are sometimes even lighter to increase power-output themselfs. 12:52 Magnesium wheels
Deserves more than a 2 for Practicality, with the two cargo areas. PS: You've always hated on 914s. The 914 was the ancestor that led directly to this. You should really drive one.
This ain’t a cayenne bro. It doesn’t even have back seats. Yeah 2 car areas don’t matter because who’s gonna daily a race car for the street? Nobody it’s a weekend car
Part of being a Porsche fanboy like all journalists are is being a snob towards the "Volkswagen" cars like the 914 and the 924. Nevermind how the 914/6 was this, it just didn't resemble a smaller 911.
I love the fact that everyone in the automotive world knows the Cayman is a better drivers car than the Carrera, but Porsche is too stubborn to admit it
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Although a few Porsche models get rated higher in the DougScore, this is the one I'd have -- hands down. For me, the best modern Porsche.
Porsche, please make it with three pedals!
Hey Doug I’m a huge fan!❤
@Ben sup Ben
The happiest u been behind the wheel in a while ..AND IT SHOWS
Even more than Carrera GT? Or just new Porsches?
Many Porsche fans regarding the Boxster/Cayman as THE Porsche, Doug 😁
22:01 "So let's talk about this car"......(18 seconds of no talking but the engine screaming with Doug smiling... enough said!)
Gold!
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hahaha... was just about to write this also! 😅 He couldn't help it! 😁😅
Hahaha forgets he is recording 😁 "......must tell you things"
An EV can never make an enthusiast that much satisfied.
11 PM: I just put it on full throttle on my home theater audio, my apartment's neighbors ringing the door bell.
I love that Porsche don't stray too far from their iconic body style
By "iconic" you mean Volkswagen Beetle?
@@porvoonosho and VW Beetle design was mainly stolen from Tatra 97
@Paul S na it’s actually just so much better than most everything else by leagues it doesn’t need changing
So impressive that they can Continental to evolve it so every new model Feels Fresh and so miuch better then the old just like lambo
@Paul S and still they sell like crazy , owners love them and the reviewers always give them praise …would be stupid by them to change a winning concept
Only a 6 on styling? Damn I’d give this a 9. Absolutely gorgeous
For sure, hes tripping lol
it's a pretty boring look for the price but it's nice overall. I'd give it a 7.
Doug is fairly harsh, but realistic with his grading. I agree a 7 would be better, but in the end it's more or less subjective with just some objective metrics.
It looks like every other porsche
This is a 8 maybe 9 for me on styling looks gorgeous and aggressive at the same time
THISSS may just be Doug's best car review ever. The man played this Porsche like a musical instrument. When I close my eyes I can still hear flat six engine song, 9000 rpm strong. Truly THE virtuoso video of the channel.
Yes. This is the first review of him that I watch where he doesn't seem to be mostly clueless about the car.
Doug was so happy during the driving section never seen him like this only while driving the CGT.
Look what he owns now
@@nicke9910 What is he driving now?
@@BloodySoup74 Carrera GT
Crazy how they can get that much power out of a naturally aspirated 4.0 engine. Wow.
German engineering power, baby!
Must’ve called the engineers @ GM & made some inquiries, 670hp outta 5.5L 🔥🔥🔥🔥 best power output ever from a n/a ICE -
As Honda lover, its the good way how to do it. And peoples choose to love it tday...but, there is a history about it.
@@miroslavdockal9468 Same here. Hondas make my favorite 6cyls
@@blueazure9658 , they make my fav four cylinders...in 90'.....and these cars are so easy and cheap to ride as daily, even tday, and they bring the smile on everyone, who drove it. I take a lesson from history, where there was better place to live, from these ones.
One of the best of Doug's episodes! You can see how much he's enjoyed it
Doug has always loved the Cayman. Honestly the Cayman is cooler than the 911 because it's so good they have to nerf it.
I agree I love watching the Cayman videos because it’s my favorite too and it’s awesome to see hi so excited 😁
That engine note is unbelievably intoxicating, seriously one of the greatest engines of all time
I definitely agree!
omg i came
@@LuxuryNoCap ??????????
@@LuxuryNoCap WTF! This is UA-cam, not that site...
No kidding!
I love how Porsche listens to it's customers. This is one of the most special cars Porsche has ever released.
This is the first time I've ever been interested in ANY version of the Cayman. This particular color, this spec... it just does it for me. Yup, I want one! This car is gorgeous and it sounds fantastic!
The Bee landing on the wing at 10:10 and perfectly matching the cars color scheme made me happy
Yeah I saw that too. perfect timing
It thought the car was a queen bee 🐝...
8:22 makes the car more aerodynamic by letting out air trapped in the wheel arches-> reduced air pressure - > reduced air pressure gradient ->reduced drag coefficient & less lift (more down force at the front)
Nahh its not really about the drag. As Andreas Preuniger Head of GT Department said in a podcast they have to do it, because of the amount of downforce at the back of the Car when it comes to RS models. It is necesarry because otherwise the Balance of the Car would suck.
more downforce, grips corners better
Reminds me of the flying mercedes' at le mans
Less air pressure in the front wheel wells is going to help keep the front end planted.
“Not making cars for collectors, making cars for drivers” damn….. literally brought tears to my eyes.
Porsche is my favorite car brand. This one is very nice looking one.
Hey Doug, just FYI: the logo on the front hood is not only a decal for weight reasons, it's also because embedding it in the carbon fiber hood would increase cost and complicate manufacturing. It's not impossible, just cheaper that way. The put it on every carbon fiber front hood.
The weight-saving-claim is probably just a marketing thing and negligible.
he knows.
No it's cheap!
That's a really good point, hadn't thought about that.
Nice one
>saves weight with the badge
>adds weight with decals
I remember seeing this car being used to show off Porsche’s new synthetic fuels, it will forever remain iconic to me.
@Ben Ben.... how the great have fallen.
@Ben You made me click off a 24/7 puppy livestream for this shit, not cool Ben
Definitely a certified hood classic
@Ben Oh boy, another video to dislike and report!
I know this is buried, I just had to say that this is hands down Dougs best review of a car. The driving section is perfect
That exhaust sound pull as he drove by a Tesla is great
Agreed 💯 😅
the sounds are symphonic, everything you'd ever want to hear from a car, the induction sounds give it a videogame'y feel too
The one car that just HAS to pass him? Of course it’s a Dodge Charger.
Totally agree! Was going to write the same comment. Doug’s enthusiasm was just bubbling out during the drive!
Porsche saw Singer and realized that the collectible nature of min-maxxed cars is off the charts. E.g. what would happen if you put the best of everything available to Porsche on any given model? GT3RS engine/Trans/suspension/brakes on the 718 model. It's fabulous. It's like the 914-6. Those values are insane right now.
I don’t know why but this is maybe my favorite Doug video. Such a cool car, great video
I agree with just about everything you’ve said, I have a 2009 Cayman S that is a complete track car, stripped out interior coil over suspension yada yada yada. I was dying to get my hands on a GT four with a PDK, and was looking forward to this car as well. When I saw that they were basically going to be unobtainable for at least a couple of years, I went and bought a 2019 GT3RS. It’s quite a special car, I don’t regret my choice. And I still have my Cayman. The wife and I both track our cars, and we do about 50 to 60 track days a year.
What do you do for a living man?
my dude living the dream right here
You're lying
@@michelleobamasthicccocc822 He’s not lying look at his channel.
@@michelleobamasthicccocc822 what the heck man you don’t know me. I’m not bragging I’m just trying to see what’s up. In my garage right now is a 2019 GT3RS, I’m taking it to the track next Sunday as well. My wife is a business owner and I work for a large company we do very well.
I love the fact that Porsche continues to produce cars with soul and sportiness like this Cayman GT4 RS
Agree. I also love that they don't stray too far from their iconic body style
@Jimmy Two Times Compared to where cars are going and how most have indeed become boring, I think we should just appreciate some of the last hurrahs before everything becomes electric.
@Jimmy Two Times this car is miles better than the emira in every way possible
@Jimmy Two Times you said porsche is heavier and etc then recommends the emira? If you watched car wow, they even said lotus makes lightweight nimble cars and the emira is heavy as hell. You just contradicted yourself. Cars have to be heavier for more modern regulations, safety standards. All that. Of that wasn't the case, the damn chaparral 2j would still be around somehow. 🙄
Only problem is at 6’2 I couldn’t get in a lotus Elise. Let alone consider fitting in one. Nice looking car though. Your practically sitting on the ground in the Elise it’s so low. Like a go kart
You could really tell how much you love this car when you were driving it. One of my favorite driving reviews just because of how excited you were.
Doug! You had the perfect chance to mention something quirky about that bumble bee landing on this yellow and black car! 10:13
Absolutely love this car! I've always been a GT3 RS fan but this is focus driven like Doug said. It's a better track version of a GT3 RS. Some will hate me for saying that but the Mid engine really makes a different with performance. Less chance of oversteer or the rear sliding out on you cause the weight is centralized between the axles. I've only just found this new version of the 718 GT4 RS recently and I love it every bit of it. Doug said it rides terribly when you're on street and it's true, but nobody buys a car like this for the "Comfort". They buy it for show pieces(which I'm not a fan of) or they buy it to fulfill its racing heart. Porsche always has my heart. ❤
I've driven a lot of Porsches, and own 2. The 2 in my garage have the engine in the middle for a reason. Regardless of transmission this car will go down in Porsche history as one of the greats. Especially considering the mid-engined platform is slated to go EV.
Three reasons it won't. It's an ugly Autozone special. No manual. Engine overwhelms the chassis at pace, period. GT3 far superior.
@@Airbag1010674 The other rs cars are extremely sought after...this one will be the same
@@Airbag1010674 How the hack would you be so convinced ??
@@Airbag1010674this guy cant afford it so he has too put it down
EV Porsche Cayman / Boxter is not a real car... I want a car that you can drive and feel how it is alive, not a robotized dead machine that drive itself and must charge 1-2 hours in middle of every trip I go that is a little longer...
When it comes to styling, this is def a 10/10 for me. Beautiful outside and the sound is just glorious.
Even the black wing struts?
Rear not aggressive enough
Looks like a pimped-up car from Need For Speed.
Probably considering all of the other cars he has driven, I think a 6 is appropriate from him. For the general population, a 7.5 is probably more accurate.
wing struts are disgusting though. Also no way Cayman is 10/10. What would be Carrera, Spyder or 911 GT3 then? (not even talking about older 911 models which are a lot nicer)
Always wanted the cayman chassis with a gt3 engine , what a car
Doug double timing it at 02:14 left me with a huge smile
At 10:05 you can see a crack on the body panel to the left of the wheel well and at 10:10 you can see a Bee landing on the spoiler 😂
It is not very often when you see Doug so focused on driving that he doesn't talk much. He thoroughly enjoyed this ride and so did I. His expression said everything. I loved the sound and feel just by looking this on YT. Lucky are the people who get to experience this.
My grandparents were behind you when you took it for a drive! they said they saw a guy moving his hands like crazy in a fast yellow sports car! If I could aford a car close to this I would!
Edit. They now know who ya are and love your reviews!
This description of Doug is on fleek👌😂
I love the classic Porsche design sooooo much and this is definitely the most beautiful to date. I’d say this is peak Porsche
You know u have a truly great car at hand when Doug remains quiet rather than chat away when driving the car....... Amazing video.... Thanks Doug for the wonderfully detailed video of this great Porsche
Did everyone notice Doug's eyes at the 28:30 min mark? It was right after the Charger pulls up behind him he quickly glances down to the speedometer. And then did the side eye as it passed him.
Hahaha! If I had a dollar everytime I've done that....
Awesome video, Doug
One "quirk" of the PDK: if you're cruising around and want to accelerate quickly, floor it and then press a little harder. There is a notch after what you think would be the bottom of the pedal. It instantly drops you into the lowest gear you can be in. Seems like not a lot of people know this.
That's some amazing creative engineering. Hahaha that's so cool it's exciting
VW GTI had this as well as my S4's. Is this the true function of this?
Yeah, its called kick down, Mercedes had it on his automatic models since the first ML suv in1998 🤣🤣
A modern Cayman R would actually be an instant classic. Manual, 4.0, no/smaller wing, magnesium wheels, in some PTS colors👀
718 gts 4.0
It would also be around four hundred thousand USD after dealer markup, and thats being conservative. Its the type of thing Porsche said they want to avoid.
@@the911collection well said
@@the911collection I’ve had mine for a year in the UK and after 6k miles it does more than I need for daily driving.
@@atramentar1883 You guys have to remember that there are other markets than the US and UK market. That insane ADM thing is not really being used anywhere else. My GT4RS comes in July, and I paid MSRP.
Finally, a video where Doug actually goes through some gears haha
I just LOVE watching Doug have fun (And love even more that after driving EVERYTHING he has, he still just is elated to drive such a machine)
I’m a little surprised that so car companies are walking away from manuals in performance vehicles. I really think that car companies are underestimating how many people actually enjoy driving manuals. Especially in sport cars that are very visceral and well connected to the road.
I think this might be the best sounding car made, each 100 rpm’s comes with a new note
Lexus lfa. Ferrari 458.
@@grahamstefaan lamborghini aventador. pagani zonda
Lexus LFA : "Ummm...hold my beer!"
Should add a sentence on "for the money" or "affordably" and also easier to maintain or not known for maintenance nightmares.
I guess that's still leave lots of other cars like the Gallardo is pretty cheap now and sounds worse than this but still extremely good for the money, but has some big potholes in terms of ownership especially the auto trans units
Lexus LFA, Porsche Carrera GT....
This looks insanely good and sounds insanely good, from what I've heard Porsche's GT lineup have incredible chassis and they are really great cars to drive.
Honestly I think the door handle fabric loop looks cool, nice contrast to door and matching the seatbelt :)
Honestly, when you start a sentence with "Honestly", it makes it sounds like you are telling the truth for the first time.
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Absolutely perfect review. I love Caymans so much! They really are the pinnacle sports car to me.
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The weissach package is a must for the sound that the carbon airbox creates which sounds amazing inside.
That interior is so nice I would have to take my shoes off before getting in out of respect.
Cars are meant to be driven, not worshipped and groveled before.
@@NeoHCgbz doesn’t mean you can’t do things to keep them nice longer
@@NeoHCgbz you can drive them hard, but you want to keep them clean to persevere value
@@TK-Chicane I’d never buy a car with keeping resale value in mind...thats like keeping your GF tight for the next guy...dumb.
@@jaredchampagne2752 not dumb at all, cause then you are just losing money lmao. Im not saying dont drive the hell out of your car, but keep it nice
Doug in 2 years: "THIS is my new GT4 RS!"
Porsche has mastered the “timeless look”
Having had my 2022 PDK GT4 for 4 mths now... Regarding the suspension harshness, at least on the GT4 (probably the GT4 RS as well), the main issue I feel isn't harshness, it's the damping. I found my GT4 to be quite unstable at high speed on CA crappy/broken pavement roads.
The car moves around waaay too much. The compression is dialed too high and the rebound is under damped. I also found the front-end didn't "talk" well with what the rear-end was doing when the suspension is handling some of the larger bumps. The factory PASM suspension on the GT4 and probably RS are designed for smooth roads and tracks, not US crappy/broken pavement roads.
I added MCS 2-way remote dampers to mine and it helped A LOT to make it much more stable at speed when the roads were less than perfect and made the front-end and rear-end a lot more cohesive with each other.
The former Top gear host tested the 911 Dakar and said he regretted baying the 911 GT something because the Dakar was MUCH more fun to drive with it soft high ride height and low grip gravel tires on tarmac. Cars that make good lap times on track is rarely fun cars to drive on normal roads...
Most fun car to drive I ever had was a Opel Ascona B 1,9SR from 1976 with 90hp and rear wheel drive :) I bought in 2001 for 550$. Now a car like that cost 20.000 to 40.000 $ so I am instead of getting a new one like that getting a used Porsche Cayman as those now cost the same...
The bee landing on wing when detailing the GT4RS logo on the wing was a nice touch. The yellow and black game recognizes game.
Having lived with a Cayman S for many years, I think even this track focused one should get a bump in practicality. The front and rear trunks make this thing great for daily driving and can handle some real luggage if you need to.
Question for Doug, what is the line between sports car and super car. what car in your opinion is the entry point to supercardom?
I think he commented on it before, but a "cheep" version of the car kills it from making the list.
All it needs is a titanium tow hitch.
Tough one, but IMO this isn't a supercar -- ultimately it's based on a Cayman. I think a supercar probably has to be purpose-built at least (same reason the Z06 isn't one).
@@DougDeMuro here is a fun fact for you when I was 9 years old I love love loved Porsches Porsche was my favorite car of all time
@@DougDeMuro do you consider the 911 Turbo S, NSX or R8 a supercar? I’ve heard many journalists/UA-camrs all deny them supercar status, interested in your opinion.
Every time a performance car of this caliber is released, I love hearing how even the rear brakes are larger than my miata's wheels. Incredible
What year Miata you got?
I could watch Doug just drive this for 20 mins straight with those reactions and that sound, lol.
Looking at the hood, it is certainly the happiest looking car. Inhales happily!!!
Haven’t seen Doug rip it this hard in a while. Mans was SLAMMING through those gears 😂
Doug!!! Please bring the old format for the Doug's score! It makes it interesting to hear your perspective on the criteria. And it keeps the anticipation to see where you'd list it and how many points it'll get rather than getting the list straight away! 😊
I came here to post this exact thing.
According to Doug on Twitter:
"Adds 1 minute to each video that I can't spend on quirks/features, which is what people want to see. Plus tons of me saying "Like all cars in this class, it gets a 5 out of 10 for practicality." Doesn't add much, but current format lets me give a good, concise, overall summary."
@@bonzobonanza That sucks. I've only started losing interest and leave the video at the end after this format. He used to do it for "More Doug Demuro" and it's understandable cause he'd review some "side" cars. But it's annoying to see it here on some major vehicles.
This is seriously one of the only modern cars that I would consider to be a dream car. It's absolutely perfect!
If only it didn’t cost so much ! Lol
@@Tharvey9421 right! At 140k I could kind of start to justify it. But I know with mark-ups I could never afford it.
You had me on board until I heard automatic only. Waste of space at that point.
@@jaredchampagne2752 I hear that. A manual would definitely be better.
@@jaredchampagne2752 PDK is probably the best dual-clutch transmission in the world.
Doug I loved your enthusiasm during this video!
You can tell you're not just an automotive journalist but one who actually appreciates such an awesome vehicle.
I have a base Cayman and could only imagine myself reacting the same way as you if I had the opportunity to drive this car.
Keep up the great content!
I agree 100%! Six speed manual on RS models will make sales skyrocket! I love hearing about all the corks and features of the RS, but the fact that it does not come in an optional manual configuration, makes me lean towards the regular GT4
I went to my local Porsche dealer and drove a 911, always wanted one. Took in for a drive and left a deposit. I thought about it over the weekend and wasn’t all that impressed. Went back in Monday and asked about taking the Boxster S out, Wow, I was impressed. Made the deal and drove it off the lot. The best secret, don’t tell anyone else.
that suspension is hard, I could feel those bumps whilst sitting in my recliner while you were driving!
Yes, relieving wheel arch air pressure is extremely important to performance, Doug. That's why almost all modern race cars have fender vents like that
The joy in you face while driving and the sound of that engine is just what my day needed!
Me, turns on the subtitles at 21:39.
Subtitles: [Music]
28:25 Doung thought that dodge was a cop
Thanks for that experience, Doug. The tune of that engine roar had my heart beating out of my chest!
Gotta love Porsche, they actually understand people like us!
Yea automatic only...they totally understand. SMFH. Waste of space.
@@jaredchampagne2752 well for a car designed to break records it makes perfect sense. They still offer manuals in their enthusiast centered models.
@@jaredchampagne2752 Because it’s an RS model…
@@JDub33333 breaking records?? it's still slower than the 992 GT3
Since 2 years Doug's like "screw Dougcember, i'm going to drop the bombs all over the year".
I mean Koenigsegg Regera, Bugatti EB110, Ferrari SF90, Ferrari Monza, that black cubic vehicle thing, McLaren Elva (coming up soon) and some others. Need i say more? It's only logical to do so if he wants to survive in this car review industry.
He became like a kid that couldn't wait to tell you what cars it has seen 😀
i can't help but laugh about the driver's expression at 5:21 . it is like he's thinking WTF.
Doug, your car reviews are hands down the best 👍 Been watching for years, and as an absolute car enthusiast really like you showing real details
PPF would have to be mandatory on those fenders and other areas rocks get slung from the front tires. Hanging my left arm out of the window of my RX-7 leaves my arm stinging from tiny rocks, I can't imagine how mangled someone's arm would look hanging out of the window of one of these 😅
Doug always has soft spot for Porsche cars. And it shows. I love his emotions. Great review. Thanks a lot, Doug!!!
I don't get the hype about Porsche until I driven one... there's no comparison, and now I daily drive one.
@@TheGardenMG same for me with Miata. I don’t get the hype for these 4 cylinder cars that have less then 200hp. I do get the hype with muscle cars like Mustang because they have V8 engines for less then $40k new or like less then $20k on the used
Once you see that smile on the top of the front bumper, you can't unsee it! This is the happiest car I've ever seen!
The magnesium wheels are expensive for many reasons but the logistics when manufacturing them are pretty insane. The magnesium billets are cast in the UK, they are forged and finish machined in Japan, then they are coated in Germany. That's a lot of travel. The magnesium roofs, which is available on the 911 GT3 RS and other RS models, is cast and rolled in South Korea (was finish rolled in the US at one point), formed and coated in Canada and then shipped to Germany. Just some insight on these magnesium supply chains.
And exactly why is that?
@@comeberza to be cool I guess
I am guessing that when Doug says “he has friends that want to buy this car” he means “he wants to buy this car”.
Vs the standard GT4, it Gained 2 points on acceleration and cool factor but lost a point on fun factor, qualify and comfort. Beating the GT4 by 1 point in total score but price tag doubled. Doug just destroyed the new GT4RS 😂
Not really. At those price and dougscore levels, every additional point costs a lot more.
In general, for $100k you can get anything you want. Every dollar you spend above has diminishing return.
Even worse above 400k, where limited supercars and hypercars are. With those, you are paying for the privilege to show off the fact that you paid more. You don’t get objective advantage for your additional dollars spent there.
@@juzoli 1000-1500hp would like a word with you
If you think about it, the closer you get to a race car - think series like GT cars from Porsche, GT-R cars from Mercedes - you inevitably lose most of the car's everyday functionality. The comfort goes down, the quality of materials is lower to save weight, but what you gain is a car that drives significantly better, accelerates more agressively. It's a trade-off. As Doug said, this car is for the people who want track-focused car 95% of the time. Everyone else is much better off aiming for a lower-tier Cayman, which is slower, but has all the quality of life equipment and characteristics.
GT4 RS is for people who are embarrassed driving a Cayman and need it to be "cooler" than a 911
@@T4xEvader Explain how would you use that 1500HP.
Good review as always. The GT4 RS is a very nice car, but I am not sure I am feeling the potential $250+k price tag for this car would be considered a good value. Particularly when you have several cars with similar or better performance characteristics (ie., GTR, ZO6) with less expensive price tags. I get the current market and its associated markups, but even still $250K for a Cayman, you'd lose money in that investment. Those who would buy this car over $200k, are lovers of Porsche more than lovers of performance.
The GT4 cayman is the best "value" performance porsche at ~110-120k after options. It can go between track and street with no worries, you could daily drive it I guess, if you don't have a family. You could option it out for a really comfy interior, or go bare bones and make it a track monster. If you're looking at a car as an investment you're removing joy from the equation. Get on some wait lists, take factory/dealer reps out to crazy parties and buy and sell Lambos and Ferraris, I guess. This car is a step above the GT4 for someone who wants a dedicated track car and for whom the increase in price has no meaning.
Of all the recent reviews of this car, all in plain-jane silver, only Doug got a yellow one 💛, because he's Doug Demuro. 😁👌
I own a manual 2014 981 Cayman S, and every time I drive it, it amazes me. I can only imagine what the GT4RS feels like. What Doug states is true. I used to own two different 911's before my Cayman, and the Cayman is a far superior driving experience. I don't miss my 911's.
As much as a manual would be fun and add a new driving dimension, I feel that the PDK sound character is more befitting of that high revving 4.0. The manual doesn't have that "punchiness" that is like a drum beat to a perfect song. You lose that with the manual. The PDK is a lot more similar to the gearbox found in the GT4 race car, and to have that in your garage to use when and where you feel like, is a privilege.
Most people also don't know how to shift gears properly, so I agree with you. On the other hand, the experience of driving a manual is unrivaled. The perfect way would be for Porsche to release both, but let's be honest, then the PDK wouldn't sell. Enthusiasts are obsessed with manuals, even if just for the bragging rights.
Just say you can't shift fast
I patiently waited through all the exterior quirks and features just to find out my worst nightmare. Kinda stopped paying attention once I found out it was auto. I get the PDK is fast. I get it’s fastER than a human. But I honestly don’t care. Sports cars should have manual transmissions available.
@@davidseo677 I'd like to see who could shift faster then a PDK.
I've extensively driven the 718 GT4 in manual, 718 Cayman GTS in manual, and the previous 981 Cayman GTS in PDK. Have to say I've missed the PDK a bit. Even if it isn't a true three pedal enthusiast transmission, it is very fun to drive. We have the GT4 RS on order and I'm sure the PDK will be just as fun as a manual.
Cool car, even with the Mary Kay transmission!
Awesome car! It’s just becoming a chore to try keeping track of all the different models
This may have gotten answered already, but is it only in America that it’s PDK only? I’m surprised that they are doing that considering that it’s well-known how many people want a manual…
Maybe it’s because PDK/auto people are louder and annoying? (speaking from experience from a previous comment lamenting lack of a manual)
Okay what? We need to dissect the Doug Score here. How in the world is styling of the GT4RS the same rating as the GT4? I know a quirk was the 6 logos for the RS, but remove the door decals, my dream build wouldn't have those on it. It's an RS, so I would assume that styling should be higher than, IF NOT AT LEAST ON PAR, was the GT3 (okay the GT3 touring is sexy and I get that, I would put styling for it at an 8, keep normal GT3 at 7, and match the touring with the GT4RS at a score of 8 (you know this makes sense).
The cool factor for this car should be a 10. I live in north scottsdale right by all the dealerships. I see multiple aventadors, 488's, mclarens, rolls royce, and GTxxx Porsches, MINUS THE GT4 OR RS. This car is more rare, more unique, and more cool. I've seen multiple GT2RS' in scottsdale and while I know they've been out longer, i still have yet to see a GT4RS in the wild, but doesn't that prove my point? This car is rare, and going to be an IFKYK car. I've drooled walking past GT4's and my non-car friends have no clue why I love it so much.
So since this is an RS car, and extremely rare, cool factor is an automatic 9. ITS A CAYMAN WITH A GT3 SOURCED ENGINE. THAT'S SO COOL... PORSCHE DID THIS FOR US! The only way this could be a 10 is if they did two things. Add ventilated seats without compromising weight or performance (I live in AZ, sue me), and maybe something like a carbon roof. For me that was my favorite part of the older M6's, plus it's laden with carbon already.
Again, how does quality suffer here in comparison to the GT4? This is Porsche, the Hummer of race cars. Make it on par with the GT4 at a 9. And features the same as a GT4? You have air intakes in the rear windows to hear induction. You have a GT3 engine in the back. These two features alone should give it a +1 just due to the fact that no other car has this. 911 purists can't debate (at least the motor) anymore against the 718. I guess though these features are based on daily practicality, I just would very much rather drive an RS over a GT4 as a daily because, well, PDK.
So adding this back up the Doug Score should be:
Styling: 8
Cool Factor: 9
Wknd Total: 44 (right below the GT2RS, right where God intended it to be),
Features: 7
Quality: 9
Daily: 28
Total: 72
Tied for first place. Call me crazy but I would rather drive this over a Ferrari. But that's due to my disdain for Ferrari ever since Nick Cage walked into a dealership and told the dealer that he needed one because he saw too many of them in the starbucks parking lot in Gone in 60 Seconds, which i feel is on brand for what I think Ferrari owners are. Maybe dock one point on features because the features I listed aren't for daily use, though i'd use them daily, so sure, adjust it for that, have it at 71.
Sorry I just really love the GT4RS.
From the drivers perspective, that really might be one of the best sounding cars ever, the noise inside the cabin is incredible
I’ve been in a normal gt4 and the sound in the cabin was insane can’t imagine what this sounds like
28:46 that charger wanted the smoke hahaha
This Cayman is TO ME more beautiful than the 911.
Is it just me seeing a happy face on the hood of the car? 7:45. Lol
I never really got into Doug Demuro, but have dabbled. I'm officially a fan. This guy knows what he's talking about about. Only a true gearhead/enthusiast would come to the same conclusion.
Seeing Doug drive that car in the neighborhood where I grew up brings back some big time nostalgia. Definitely driven wayyyy too fast on that same exact road. Scripps Ranch represent!
Doug is living my dream! When he is speechless accelerating, you know it is an amazing car!
Doug giving a review of the GT4 RS while also giving tips on how to maintain the value by selecting bucket seats is the best advice yet! (assuming everyone is planning on buying one) 😅
I got 3 laps in one of these on a track day (thanks baby!). Truly a bucket list car.
I am a hard core manual fan, but this PDK is amazing and makes so much more sense for this trim level than a manual.
Back to real world if I were to purchase a Cayman/Boxster, it would be much closer to the entry level car with a stick of course.
If you get a chance to do a track day in one of these, pull out the credit card and do it!
I'm not a car engineer myself, but as I hear almost every trained car guy say: Reducing rotational mass is one of the most effective ways to make a car drive better/safer/quicker . That's why all these "weight-reduced" moving parts are so much more expensive in return for the net weight they save.
It's kinde the same with weight reduced cam shafts (other materials). They are on the one hand more sturdy to withstand more power but they are sometimes even lighter to increase power-output themselfs. 12:52 Magnesium wheels
"I can't look for cops"
I've never related more to Doug.
This guy rules in the States for Car Reviews. The other guy is Matt in London with CarWow and the Canadians
Deserves more than a 2 for Practicality, with the two cargo areas.
PS: You've always hated on 914s. The 914 was the ancestor that led directly to this. You should really drive one.
This ain’t a cayenne bro. It doesn’t even have back seats. Yeah 2 car areas don’t matter because who’s gonna daily a race car for the street? Nobody it’s a weekend car
Good point Philip
Part of being a Porsche fanboy like all journalists are is being a snob towards the "Volkswagen" cars like the 914 and the 924. Nevermind how the 914/6 was this, it just didn't resemble a smaller 911.
The Porsche flat-6 sounds like an air raid siren on four wheels, love it!
Never heard Doug appreciate a car this much ...💯💯
I love the fact that everyone in the automotive world knows the Cayman is a better drivers car than the Carrera, but Porsche is too stubborn to admit it