DCS: AH-64D Datalink Use
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2023
- NOTE 1. As with the real-world AH-64D, the DCS version cannot exchange data with other aircraft like the F-16C, FA-18C, and A-10C.
NOTE 2. From the RPT sub-page of the TSD, you can elect to set the REPLY to automatically (AUTO) send data that is requested of you from other network members, or you can set to OFF and manually reply with the requested data.
NOTE 3. As always, these videos provide a preview of an upcoming feature to assist you in understanding a new feature. Later, it is quite possible that the feature will change, and the feature functionality has changed. As much as I’d like to, I lack the time re-record these videos.
The first type of data to discuss is sending and receiving messages through the COM page. Select COM and then SEND from the Message (MSG) options along the bottom. We now have three options, send a text message, send current mission data, or send either Mission 1 or Mission 2 data.
To send a text message, select TEXT from the top row and then you can choose to send a Mission Planning System, or MPS, preconfigured message, or a FREE text message. To send an MPS message, select the push tile next to the message you wish to send, and then select SEND. It will then send this message to all Team members within the Gunslinger, Preset 1, network over the selected radio on the EUFD, in this case the VHF. To send a free text message, select FREE and you’ll then be able to compose a message of four lines using the keyboard unit. As you might imagine, the TEXT 1 to 4 allows you to compose each line, with a maximum of 44 characters in each line. Once satisfied with your witty message, select SEND to push over the selected radio and team member network as set on the EUFD, box.
If you wish to send over a different radio, use the rocker on the far left to move the box symbol to the radio that you wish to transmit over. Note that you will be listening on all the radios based on the selected frequencies.
If though you send a message and a recipient aircraft’s modem does not acknowledge its reception, you’ll see an XMIT NAK and the transmitting radio message on the EUFD. This means that the transmission was not acknowledged, which may be caused by terrain blocking the line-of-sight to the recipient, or if that recipient isn’t monitoring that frequency for datalink messages.
In addition to sending messages, you can also receive them. When you receive an MPS or FREE message, you’ll see a notification on the EUFD and an REC, or Receive, option will appear next to SEND within the MSG bracket on the COM page. Upon selecting REC on the COM page, the list of received messages is displayed, and you can select them to review them.
Pressing COM, we will select SEND again, but this time select Current Mission. From here, we can select our entire Waypoint and Hazard file, our entire Targets and Threats file, or our entire Control Measures file, Laser Codes, Routes, or All to our Team members on the Gunslinger network over the selected radio, in this case VHF to L1, Preset 1 Gunslinger. For example, if I have numerous Targets created, I can select TGT-THRT from our SEND Current Mission page and press SEND to provide all Target points at once to each Team member within the Gunslinger network.
The first report we’ll discuss is Present Position, or PP. This is the current location of our helicopter and those of our Primary members. As mentioned earlier, this is a static position that is not continually updated. For it to update, you’d need to send a new one that would replace the prior one. To send our PP, we select RPT, or Reports, select PP, and then select SEND to L1 over the VHF.
If wish to request a PP from our Primary members, we select Report, select PP, and at the bottom where is says MSG for Message, toggle that from SEND to Request, or RQST. As before, then press SEND and all Primary members will send you their current PP.
Before leaving Reports, one last item to note is that we can select our aircraft to automatically reply to the receipt of data by setting REPLY to AUTO, or if we want to reply to it only manually, we can set it to OFF.
Last, we can also send individual Waypoints, Hazards, Control Measures, or Target-Threat points on our TSD to Primary members. To do so, enter the TSD POINT page, select XMIT, cursor select the point you wish to send, in this case a Control Measure, select which Primary members you wish to send it to, and then press SEND. You can also manually enter the index of the point using the keyboard using the POINT option at L1 instead of selecting it with the cursor.
If we receive a point, we’ll see a white REC on the left side of the TSD. If we select to receive that point from within the REC list, upon which pressing displays point on our TSD. - Ігри
Ill definitely use the free text option for mission related information only and not bombarding my friends with harassing text
- this!
*NEW MSG*
"UR MOM GAY LOL =P"
Ignore function ? :)
When we first got the BF tracker I learned a valuable lesson about sending texts to your wingman. EVERYONE sees it. Division was not impressed about my questioning chalk 1s sexual orientation. Nor by their reply.
@@Rex-ii2yzwell? What was Chalk 1s sexuality?? Don’t leave us hanging!
NOTE 1. As with the real-world AH-64D, the DCS version cannot exchange data with other aircraft like the F-16C, FA-18C, and A-10C.
NOTE 2. From the RPT sub-page of the TSD, you can elect to set the REPLY to automatically (AUTO) send data that is requested of you from other network members, or you can set to OFF and manually reply with the requested data.
NOTE 3. As always, these videos provide a preview of an upcoming feature to assist you in understanding a new feature. Later, it is quite possible that the feature will change, and the feature functionality has changed. As much as I’d like to, I lack the time re-record these videos.
NOTE 4. Sending and receiving Priority Fire Zones (PFZ) and No Fire Zones (NFZ), FARM reports, and SHOT reports over the datalink are next tasks.
What are SHOT reports? :)
It will indicate targets that have been engaged by Primary members.
But sure AH-64D can laser illuminate targets for aircraft too?
@@MattWagnerie. Those "crosses"? Does display separate own and whoever engaged targets somehow?
in germany we arent allowed to use the phone while driving a car but a AH64D Pilot is allowed to send text messages while flying 260km/h. not fair!
As a licensed German pilot and driver I'll assure you that looking away while driving is way more dangerous than looking away while flying. While drving you are only a few seconds away from hitting the barrier, while flying if you manage to hit something within ten seconds, I'd be surprised.
To be fair, I'm sure it would usually be the CPG who is doing many of the heads down tasks in the apache.
@@Juhujalp ... depends if there are shilkas in front of you.
@@danybackstone I can assure you that this is a rare event in private flying... in DCS however...
*This message was sent from my AH-64D*
Perhaps only weapons dude can send them? Actual pilots are limited to send only selfies to Insta? :P
I was half expecting Chaos 1-2 to text a response from to "123" of "That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!"
I'm glad you including that little ring sound after receiving data. Immersion = 100%
Note that the tone is only for certain received messages, like targets and threats.
@@MattWagner Yes I'm aware. Thanks for all the hard work that's being put into the Apache!
Looking good. Keep up the great work!
Looks like a great feature, the possibility to share new targets for example alone is amazing but I also see a great use for sharing "everything" in multiplayer if there are no waypoints set up from the beginning. One person can create the route and then share it with several others.
Wags, I note you mentioned the oft requested DTC function. With the parallel development and roll out of datalink style features across the Hornet, Viper, Warthog II, and Apache, will we see DTC releases similarly for these platforms? Or are they too different in format across the platforms to release that way?
We plan a general, similar format between DTC per aircraft type, but they must vary to a degree based on specific functionality per platform. Once we complete the core systems (like DL), we can then roll out the DTC interface that ties to systems like DL, fuzing, radios, countermeasures, etc.
@@MattWagner That makes sense. Thanks for the reply and another informative video as always.
Excitement intensifying!!!!
gooooood work
Cant wait to send a S2 for other Apache
my 3d printed mfd buttons will get a workout! DCS updates looking great!
Record with OBS instead of NVidia, Matt, and you'll get your yellow cursor back and maybe there'll be some hope of people being able to follow along.
Ooo this'll be noice >:3
Do you have plans to implement the similar systems for the Hornet and Harrier? Both have and used VMF via the DCS -210s
Hi Wags! Will AI members be capable to use the DL functionality as well? I.e. where it makes sense - so probably not sending free text messages, but for example reacting properly to "request" messages?
You can certainly send requests, like PPs to Primary members.
omg yes more apache stuff!!! 😊👏
More still coming.
Also useful to play tic tac toe when you're bored... 😂
Awesome. I know we won't get it but I still pray for air to air.
Correct, it will not happen as it would be completely inaccurate for a US AH-64D Blk II.
@@MattWagner I do get that. If the US had to fight a war in DCS though. It wouldn't be a second thought. Only reason I even bring it up is because it's my favorite atm and so darn helpless in a pvp server.
@@orleansjunky4074the Hind is calling you 😊
@@ColonelAkirNakesh yeah i have it just find time to get to it. plus i play blue alot
@@orleansjunky4074 the Hind is so rad. Air to air, troop transport and ATGMs. It's like the Hornet of helos where it can do anything even if it's not the best. For blue there are Georgian and Ukrainian liveries :)
Does recieving ALL Mission data, automatically copy to your mission profile? Or does this all have to be entered manually?
Does that thumbnail mean our pilots will be able to climb into the cockpit at the start? Or was that already shown and I've missed it?
From what I recall, that's from pilot ejection animation (ctrl+e 3x)
This is the exit aircraft animation that has been available for a while.
🆒️.. so I expect this marvelous V/UHF_DL work too with incoming 58D right❗️.. and about the TACFIRE HF_DL for artillery that need a lower Data-Rate, do you think is now the right time to update the M109 Paladin CA module with Copperhead shell M712 with 3 digits laser code❔️
This datalink type is not compatible with 58s or artillery. It's AH-64D only.
@@Raptor_9 IIRC, the 58D using an ATHS, can call for a digital remote strike with laser-coded (4 digits) 114K Hellfire that is compatible with the 64D's IDM, & call for a digital IDF with laser-coded (3 digits) M712 Copperhead that is compatible with the M109's TACFIRE.. just they need to dial the right IP address & the right Data Rate (Baud Rate).
@@tmting4942 You're confusing a different datalink type then what is shown in the video, you are talking about TACFIRE. But this is a separate datalink type that is not compatible with ATHS/TACFIRE.
@@Raptor_9 it seems that the DATALINK/TACFIRE shown on the COM > Originator ID page in the Data Link SETUP Video [5:10] confused me, thanks for the clarification.. appreciated.
@@tmting4942 That's just an option to display the settings for different datalink types on the ORIG ID page. There are so few options for those two types specifically they are grouped on the same page format and displayed simultaneously, instead of having a separate page format for each type when only a couple data fields need editing in either one.
Wags, are we able to easily add these map points in the F10 map or Mission Editor? I may have missed it in a previous video.
You can already elect to have units placed in the ME appear as control measures on the TSD.
@@MattWagnerJust saying, being able to put markers on F10 map and loading them into the plane is an absolute godsend on the JF-17, AJS-37 and the AV-8B. Probably more related to when you get the DTC up and running, but still, you _need_ to have that kind of ability.
All of the missions I play on a regular basis feature dynamic elements, and setting something in ME just isn't a real substitute. =)
When your flight member sent you his target point, I noticed the one you had previously disappeared, does that option of sending data overwrite your target points of the same name similar to sending the library through the COM page? Does it overwrite all points or just ones with the same number?
How do you have such nice head movement/ eye views? Smooth. is it part of the after-edit? What are your tricks?
TrackIR and then video smoothing in Resolve.
Apache about to become a cod 4 lobby!
Will the upcoming Kiowa have this datalink system?
You will need to ask the developer.
I'm totally not gonna send dark humor jokes via the text feature mid-mission...nope not me. lol
Nice thumbnail, patiently awaiting when we can dismount and mount out favorite toys.
You can already 'dismount' from the -64D.
How long until we get the radar?
As seen in the previous video, it is far along, but not for 2.9.
How important is the Frequency of the Radio for sending Stuff over the Network?
As per the Setup video, all participants must be on the same Preset that are tuned to the same radio/freq.
Okay understand, thanks a lot.
Last question, is the DL blocking the freq. for this short time or is radio communication and DL use at the same time possible?
@@Schmircopyou only hear a short buzz ("tsssss" sound) sound when the data is transmitted. It doesn't interrupt communications.
@@robgeenen79 thx buddy!
Looks great. Are you guys working on a fix for the hellfire limas? They don't hit anything 98% the time.
No such issues here. Please use our forums and include a track to help see where you may be going wrong.
@@MattWagner I'm getting very sporadic behaviour with the Limas even in low clutter environments. Sometimes theyre awesome, sometimes not - same variables just different sorties. SP work flawlessly, MP they're... odd. I saw a forum post stating something about the INU donate from ownship on MP maybe being an issue?
Please use our forums and include a track to help see where you may be going wrong.
Currently there is a bug what the Limas confused, that has to do with the INU and is also reported since the introduction of the Lima
reset your INUs in util page of tsd if limas are missing works for me
Will the Apache get features similar to link 16 w/ live positions and target sharing etc?
No, please watch the video, this is specifically discussed.
I wonder why this "discrete" datalink philosophy maybe to reduce radiation emissions?
Think of it as an outgrowth of the US Army ground forces datalink system of updating ground unit locations and reports. Only with the introduction of the AH-64E was a more cross-platform/forces datalink added.
“Joint” wasn’t really a thing we did back in the early to mid-2000s…at least not well.
@@MattWagner makes sense thx Matt 👍
"uwu *notices your hellfire missiles*"
Yes, mixed loadout on the same launcher.
Incredibly cursed comment
Texting while waging war...damn millennials...