Lenny McLean on Paul Sykes, Steroids and the Fight that never was...

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  • Lenny McLean on Paul Sykes, Steroids and the Fight that never was...
    Lenny's own words, taken from his book The Guv'nor: amzn.to/3rcBkGr
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    Sykes Pencil Drawing by: natmossart
    McLean Pencil Drawing by: stevenstreetinoriginalart
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    Unearthed during research for the new and upcoming Paul Sykes book due in 2021: ‘An Expert in Violence: Paul Sykes’ - A chronological account of Sykes violent life throughout the 60's, 70', 80's and 90's, growing up, in the nick and in the ring...
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  • @user-nr8sd9vd8t
    @user-nr8sd9vd8t 3 роки тому +60

    Sykes in the ring with ease, we’re forgetting Sykes was a very talented fighter and would’ve gone much further if he dedicated himself more, look how much Lenny leaves himself open in his fights in the ring and he’s often caught square on. On the cobbles who knows, but at the end of the day Paul Sykes could do everything Lenny could but better.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +7

      Agreed

    • @seangallagher6075
      @seangallagher6075 3 роки тому +18

      @@monitor4728 yeah sure.. Lenny got beat many times in the ring & on the Streets.. Those old Londoners spin more yarn than truth to sell those shity films & books that they churn out every week..

    • @mikestobbs4105
      @mikestobbs4105 3 роки тому +3

      @@seangallagher6075 behave yourself Lenny never lost one on the cobbles. Hed have smashed sykes head in on cobbles. In the ring though Sykes would have done him in 2.

    • @forestpunk5739
      @forestpunk5739 3 роки тому +17

      Sykes would have obviously been even more dangerous on the streets to what he was in the ring without any rules just as Lenny would. High level pro boxer, Superior overall physical ability & conditioning, clearly more mentally unhinged..Would have made short work of McClean on the streets or in the ring, it's common sense when comparing the two.

    • @forestpunk5739
      @forestpunk5739 3 роки тому +12

      ​@@monitor4728 I can't believe you are seriously (and confidently) using such logic to judge potential fight match ups between two individual people lol That's not how it works mate, I couldn't care less if Lenny was from the South Bronx or The Cotswolds lol you judge on the individuals fighting prowess, skills and track record. Such an odd attempt at justifying your opinion lol
      Sykes made short work of Roy Shaw twice behind bars, to which Roy himself admitted when questioned about it - "he was too big for me" - Quite bizarre that happened considering Roy was also from London, surely it shouldn't have been possible 😂
      Saying that..I'm now also struggling to figure out how on earth Anthony Joshua was ever considered for a title fight considering he's from Watford, Hertfordshire. Madness!

  • @Freddieduda
    @Freddieduda 2 роки тому +8

    This fight was advertised on one of those big boxing posters with the undercard on it in my dad's pub in Glasgow. I was only a teenager at the time and there were a few from Glasgow including my dad heading down for the fight. I remember the disappointment when it was called off.

  • @MrCalibra32
    @MrCalibra32 3 роки тому +32

    Despite all the debate on here any of these mentioned(sykes,lenny etc) would smash any of us keyboard contributors .its mad how people say he was shit in the ring only knocked piss heads out , not 1 person on here would have the bollocks to face any of them.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +4

      Correct

    • @monitor4728
      @monitor4728 3 роки тому +3

      @@warcrypublishing upgrade from . Agreed 👀

    • @stevesaunders591
      @stevesaunders591 3 роки тому +2

      That is true but this is their game and how they make a living and they are all as hard as nails but we can still have our opinion

    • @buskingkarma2503
      @buskingkarma2503 3 роки тому

      @@stevesaunders591 took the words out my mouth lol 👍

    • @fredwade4100
      @fredwade4100 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe a Dr Rackpull would. That man is dangerous

  • @mickymac6571
    @mickymac6571 3 роки тому +60

    Having big muscles and being able to bench press heavy weights doesn't make you a good fighter or bodybuilders would be world champion boxers.

    • @josephmills619
      @josephmills619 3 роки тому +6

      Obviously .but have you seen Lenny fight.when it comes to butting ,biting eye gouging,all in Len would batter a lot of people.in Queensbury rules he has to stick to rules .

    • @mickymac6571
      @mickymac6571 3 роки тому +4

      @@josephmills619 he’s not the only one 😎

    • @josephmills619
      @josephmills619 3 роки тому +2

      Oh times have changed now .you seen all the massive eastern European (not racist) ,and other big strong guys around ,now they would defo fight anyone.
      When Paul was alive in 80s and 90s ,6'2(i think he was)was a big man, knowadays people are bigger.

    • @josephmills619
      @josephmills619 3 роки тому +1

      I agree what you mean though muscles don't make fighting ability.look at k.s.w MMA for example.

    • @paulbanks2832
      @paulbanks2832 3 роки тому

      Martyn Ford is the best fighter in the world

  • @20thcenturygamingc64
    @20thcenturygamingc64 3 роки тому +25

    My best mate was a humble lad, a disciplined boxer at a good level. He was sparring and training one day and a local hardman jumped in the ring to fight him to prove his reputation. My mate did not want to but had to defend himself. I watched him dismantle this streetfighter in seconds. The level Sykes boxing skills were would have been difficult to overcome for Lenny, legend that he is.

  • @billybigtime2808
    @billybigtime2808 3 роки тому +2

    Could listen to that all day nice one

  • @RSR423
    @RSR423 3 роки тому +27

    Sykes would of beaten McClean in the ring, and smashed the snot out of him on the street with no ref to save him. Lenny, after all, was a bouncer, and Paul's favorite pastime was beating the piss out of doormen. Paul was like a Hereford bull with the biggest hands I've ever seen. He blew right through Shaw like he wasn't even there, twice, about ten seconds first time, then maybe fifteen seconds the next time. Thing about Paul was he hit hard and like lightening, saw him drop six screws trying block him in Durham nick SSU, like an old fashioned cowboy film as they slid down the walls knocked out cold. Funny man, in fact one of the funniest men I ever knew, but one mean bastard.

    • @bingleybiker6643
      @bingleybiker6643 2 роки тому +1

      Paul fought roy shaw???

    • @paulevans3754
      @paulevans3754 2 роки тому

      He liked buggering yp’s too apparently.

    • @RSR423
      @RSR423 2 роки тому +3

      @@paulevans3754 You know how many times I've heard that bollocks? Now find one YP it happened to. I was there and it never happened mate.

    • @paulevans3754
      @paulevans3754 2 роки тому

      @@RSR423 ua-cam.com/video/gIxZDWbPmvI/v-deo.html

    • @bingleybiker6643
      @bingleybiker6643 2 роки тому

      @@RSR423 to be honest either way you look at it he was a nonce. His bird was 15 when he shagged her.

  • @IKB28513
    @IKB28513 2 роки тому +16

    Sykes would’ve dusted McLean, no bother. He held records in prison for weight lifting plus he was a superior fighter. The funniest part of this video is McLean saying he never took steroids after that Doctor gave him them, he was never off the stuff.

    • @paulietv2162
      @paulietv2162 2 роки тому +1

      I thought the funniest part was when Lenny said Sykes as a pushover and in the next sentence said he drove all the way to Blackpool to get the lowdown from Sykes ex-trainer

    • @paulietv2162
      @paulietv2162 2 роки тому +3

      @@whoisit1100 The difference between Lenny and Sykes is that Sykes was BORN to be a fighter but Lenny always ASPIRED to be a fighter. Sykes never took training seriously and was always on the piss, but McLean was juicing and around gyms all his life but was not half the fighter Sykes was.

    • @mickpearson6184
      @mickpearson6184 2 роки тому +1

      Mclean was 20 stone in the 80s and could bench press 500 pounds. I think he'd have nutted sykes senseless

    • @paulietv2162
      @paulietv2162 2 роки тому +1

      @@mickpearson6184 Well, Eddie Hall can bench more than that and he can't box to save his life. As for nutting Sykes senseless, the 14 stone King of the Gypsies barely flinched when the Guvnor nutted him, despite giving up 6 stone to him.

    • @roastedicons1234
      @roastedicons1234 Рік тому

      The fight never came because a week before he was supposed to be fighting lenny he was fighting at roof top gardens with the bouncers he got a cut eye apparently

  • @rodeheath1
    @rodeheath1 3 роки тому +32

    Sykes every day...

  • @damonbervoets1435
    @damonbervoets1435 2 роки тому +1

    I've read this book, was a very good read.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  Рік тому

      Biggest selling gangland book of all time I believe

    • @damonbervoets1435
      @damonbervoets1435 Рік тому

      @@warcrypublishing You may be right. It was a very interesting read for sure. Haven't read any of the other gangland books as of yet.
      May have to read it again soon, it's been a few years now. Usually, books are boring, but this one was good!

  • @paulbanks2832
    @paulbanks2832 3 роки тому +6

    Apparently ducked an all in against Lee Chapman of romford

    • @jimmcsweeney8939
      @jimmcsweeney8939 2 роки тому

      As would anyone. Chapman was twenty years ahead of his time and even at his age now would flatten 99.9% of men

  • @tonygarforth539
    @tonygarforth539 3 роки тому +11

    i would have backed sykes at 10 to one on lenny was a very lucky man that he got injured anyway hope you both rip

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +1

      Agreed

    • @bingleybiker6643
      @bingleybiker6643 2 роки тому +1

      Sykes didnt get injured. He didnt fight lenny coz he got locked up for breaking 2 coppers jaws on the day he was supposed to fight lenny

  • @jimooky7113
    @jimooky7113 Рік тому +1

    Lenny Sykes VS Paul McLean..... Now that would of been a fight!!!

  • @antonbless
    @antonbless 3 роки тому +3

    Met Sykes in Hull prison in the 80s he was always kicking of and down the block and met him in the Gaiety pub Leeds roundhay road where he kicked of and beat up a taxi man and got 5yrs for it.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому

      What year was the taxi incident? Can you remember or roughly?

    • @antonbless
      @antonbless 3 роки тому +2

      @@warcrypublishing is was about 1988 and was InTime taxi base it happened next to gaiety pub

  • @Helios601
    @Helios601 3 роки тому +13

    Speed kills. I don't see a so called street fight ending up much different between these two. Were not taking about skilled mma fighters here, it's gonna come down to hands and a pro HW boxer in Sykes could make light work of Lenny. There's just far to much skill difference. I think the image of Lenny bum rushing Paul using head butts etc and avoiding all shots coming at him, is a long shot. I think its safe to assume Paul could do all that also. Speed kills.

    • @SwissCheese112
      @SwissCheese112 3 роки тому

      lenny was very fast

    • @roybradley764
      @roybradley764 2 роки тому +1

      Sykes all day in the ring but , a street fight with Lenny not a chance

    • @arranhorron5173
      @arranhorron5173 Рік тому

      @@roybradley764 totally agree

  • @allmodcons
    @allmodcons 3 роки тому +49

    Sykes would've boxed his ears off.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +5

      Million percent, Levels!

    • @amshia0121
      @amshia0121 3 роки тому +2

      Yammy B reckons he saw a lifer Paul Flint put him on his are in jail .

    • @mickgates9564
      @mickgates9564 3 роки тому +2

      @@amshia0121 Not as impressive as it sounds mate. The fella that he speaks of doing that would have only been a child when Sykes was in his physical prime years. A few people were already getting the better of Sykes by the time he was into his 40's.

    • @luddyv4674
      @luddyv4674 3 роки тому

      @@MrDanybe Yeah I got that vibe from him as well. He seems like a sound bloke but he directly admitted on one of his recent videos about being personally biased to Bronson regarding the Sykes thing until some more sources told him differently. It seems to me like he probably sticks up the southern characters simply because he is from down that way himself and its some sort of pride thing. Fair enough really its just what people do

    • @dave8204
      @dave8204 3 роки тому +1

      @@mickgates9564 Yeah but Dave Courtney claims to have been hanging around with the Krays when he would have been 6 so who knows?

  • @mafftv3801
    @mafftv3801 Рік тому +2

    True story, cockerill version of the gardiner fight makes me laugh

  • @slava9734
    @slava9734 3 роки тому +11

    mclean is/was a fairy tale. he was a tough doorman......but tough doormen/streetfighters walk into boxing gyms all the time and get their asses handed to them by novice boxers. sykes wasnt a great fighter.......but he was a legit pro with solid amateur credentials. mclean would have gotten smashed, plain and simple.

  • @dalegribble7935
    @dalegribble7935 3 роки тому +1

    So who did Lenny fight instead of Sykes and what was the result? Answers on a postcard 🤪

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +5

      Got beat by Kevin Paddock

    • @dalegribble7935
      @dalegribble7935 3 роки тому +2

      @@warcrypublishing well done kid 👌🏼 and he was a blown up middleweight

  • @seanbongs
    @seanbongs 2 роки тому +1

    Who's the narrater, sounds like Tommy Walsh of DIY fame

  • @christopherconway8836
    @christopherconway8836 Рік тому +1

    What a pair of authors well donejamie boyal at war cry publishers

  • @tonkajjz109
    @tonkajjz109 3 роки тому +6

    Sykes all day in the ring and out the bloke was an animal the only one who could have given him a go was Duffy he had youth size and from the stories he was something else I work with a load of older geordie lads and they still go on about the time lee went to Newcastle and literally laid half the doormen in town out looking for viv Graham

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +3

      Agreed

    • @demimoffatt7900
      @demimoffatt7900 3 роки тому +1

      @@warcrypublishing wasn’t ashey going too do viv ? It was a set up and viv knew it when his car tyres were slashed , too say Duffy was alone is comical

    • @slickdon1
      @slickdon1 Рік тому +1

      Lee Duffey would of ate him for dinner, so would McLean.

    • @tyee8760
      @tyee8760 5 місяців тому

      Lenny pastes Sykes outside the ring. Throws him all around like a rag doll

  • @buskingkarma2503
    @buskingkarma2503 3 роки тому +8

    I'd have put my money on Sykes gloves on and mclean gloves off lol

  • @dilligaf2386
    @dilligaf2386 2 роки тому +1

    See even back then fighter got on the gear.

  • @luckylyrics89
    @luckylyrics89 2 роки тому +4

    Enjoyed that !!! Get me some of them steroids that make you run 15miles lol

  • @petemayes1940
    @petemayes1940 Рік тому +1

    When Sykes fought John l Gardner I understand he did not bother training much for it.

  • @barnetthejosh
    @barnetthejosh 2 роки тому +6

    Lenny never ran 15 miles in his life

  • @richardtuffnell9886
    @richardtuffnell9886 2 роки тому +1

    What about lew Yates?

  • @michaelbeveridge6208
    @michaelbeveridge6208 3 роки тому +11

    People like McLean trying to trump professional fighters and blag themselves as being better is a joke. Don’t get me wrong. They may well do okay in an undisciplined street fight but, in a ring, with rules. No chance.

  • @lamby1074
    @lamby1074 3 роки тому +1

    Any footage of Lenny being beaten anywhere?

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +1

      Never seen any

    • @jimmcsweeney8939
      @jimmcsweeney8939 2 роки тому

      Yes, someone has the tape of Roy Shaw beating him in the first fight but wants stupid money to release it

  • @suchasin
    @suchasin 2 роки тому +1

    ow about them fighting on the street, but with boxing gloves?

  • @lukepeacham9663
    @lukepeacham9663 3 роки тому +19

    Sykes could beat Maclean on the street and in the ring. Sykes was an alcoholic with no dedication but all the skill and dynamite in both hands. Same with the fight with terry Mitchell. He fought Sykes when he was sober and Sykes was full of whiskey

  • @jackquack6352
    @jackquack6352 2 роки тому +4

    Sykes wins all day long, a professional boxer beats a good street fighter every day and twice on a Tuesday morning when it's dour hour

  • @davidcorbett1713
    @davidcorbett1713 3 роки тому +13

    Non of these 2 would of been any match on the street or in the ring with Charles Hawtrey. Sykes found out the hard way when he upset Hawtrey one afternoon in a pub he ended up gettin sparked out for half hour. McClean bottled it when Hawtrey offered him a 1 on 1 round the back of a restaurant in the carpark, Lenny refused to go outside

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому

      Where’s he from? Where was the incident with Sykes?

    • @davidcorbett1713
      @davidcorbett1713 3 роки тому +2

      @@warcrypublishing he was from Hounslow London but spent time during filming in many different town & city's

    • @garylamb9809
      @garylamb9809 3 роки тому +5

      It would have been a right carry on.

    • @davidcorbett1713
      @davidcorbett1713 3 роки тому +5

      @@garylamb9809 my uncle said Charles was dressed in a bob hat short sleeved shirt and shorts just like he looked in Carry on Camping

    • @garylamb9809
      @garylamb9809 3 роки тому +5

      @@davidcorbett1713 good job he didn't have his mate Kenneth with him. Now he was hard.

  • @beakycole8679
    @beakycole8679 3 роки тому +2

    Sykes woulda punched McLean
    in the fuckin earole until he swum off

  • @melseymizouri4792
    @melseymizouri4792 3 роки тому +1

    Both hard men

  • @craigisaac806
    @craigisaac806 3 роки тому +8

    Sykes was a well schooled amateur boxer as a kid got banged up for years then turned pro at 30 when he came out fought for a British title against gardener ,Sykes would av done Kenny gloves or no gloves make no mistake about it different levels

  • @Dirdy1998
    @Dirdy1998 2 роки тому +2

    In the ring or the street , Sykes would have bashed them all

  • @RonWylie-gk5lc
    @RonWylie-gk5lc 3 роки тому +1

    Thats bollocks about Sykes turning away to tell his corner to shut up, absolute lies, Sykes put up a very good show but John Gardiner out boxed him, experience and proper training really showed. Sykes really had talent and would have took him apart in one round.
    They were completely different animals

  • @antonlestevo8273
    @antonlestevo8273 2 роки тому +1

    What's a choke? £500 ?

  • @chriswright6245
    @chriswright6245 2 роки тому +3

    If Paul used his skills then I think he would have best Lenny in 4. I feel he was rushed because of his age. Pity he didn't turn pro after the 73 abas. Could have had a good life.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  Рік тому

      100 percent

    • @chriswright6245
      @chriswright6245 Рік тому

      @@warcrypublishing what's your thoughts on the Gardner stoppage? Pity Gardner never got a world title shot. He was decent

  • @alanjax7685
    @alanjax7685 2 роки тому +1

    what about bill mckenzie? (william mckenzie from woking}

  • @joeowenstalkingsense4439
    @joeowenstalkingsense4439 Рік тому +1

    Sykes (sober) would have flattened them all.

  • @Rightturnclyde78
    @Rightturnclyde78 Рік тому +1

    I don't know either men, but read a lot about them and seen all the footage one thing about sykes lookin at his manorisms he could certainly have a go

  • @Alex21441
    @Alex21441 Рік тому +1

    Paul Sykes could do them all EXCEPT for Bill the Bomb! Billy Williams was on a whole different level, trained with Angelo Dundee, Ali's trainer, even Mclean backed down from him at Camden Palace. Bill the Bomb was a boxer but a criminal. Famous sparring session between him and Muhammad Ali and afterwards Ali said "who the hell is this guy!"
    Paul Sykes was a good boxer, but Bill was a different breed, skill and mentality folded into one.

  • @llewellynwilliams1956
    @llewellynwilliams1956 3 роки тому +2

    was away with paul in "risley remand center" many moons back he was funny not a bully at all got on with every one. he always went around with just shorts an t shirt screws said nothink ha ha "rip paul an lenny"

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому

      Hi, could you drop us an email warcry@roobix.co.uk interested in any info.

  • @dannykirton6445
    @dannykirton6445 3 роки тому +9

    Sykes would have done McLean in the ring very easily, Just like Cliff Fields did TWICE (both ko's) and Jonny Waldron (ko) and Kevin Paddock (pts)

  • @MrLiquidator67
    @MrLiquidator67 3 роки тому +2

    Did anyone ever witness Lenny fight another bare knuckle fighter on the cobbles?

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому

      I haven’t read many accounts

    • @MrLiquidator67
      @MrLiquidator67 3 роки тому +3

      @@warcrypublishing So all these people saying Lenny would have beaten Sykes on the cobbles are just going by what he wrote about himself with no evidence that he ever even fought another bare knuckle fighter in his life.

  • @johnmason9286
    @johnmason9286 2 роки тому +1

    It's true they are hard men in towns city's and villages the ones who are the dangerous ones are the quiet ones don't go shooting the mouths of its the farmers you got to watch out for and yes I met paddy Duffy frence Warren Black tyny caskin over the years but tiny caskin seen him fight aview times I lived with him and his family back 8os on his gypsy camp only the police was scared of him

  • @edof4827
    @edof4827 3 роки тому +29

    I have read about Roy Shaw and Lenny McLean and Charles Bronson. I no what happened in the two altercation's between Paul Sykes and Roy Shaw. I wouldn't call them fights Roy Shaw wasn't even competitive he got battered with ease Charlie B was so frightened he sat looking at the wall until he had to go behind the door. A man who could do that to too men who are renowned for their toughness makes me think there's no way he would be intimidated by Lenny McLean. I would even doubt Paul Sykes would only want to fight with gloves on as the thing is Paul thought having the gloves hindered him from being able to cause the damage he wanted to. In or out of the ring I believe a prime Paul Sykes would of beaten Lenny McLean because he was vicious to his core he didn't have to psych himself up to fight he was pure testosterone once he landed on Lenny he would of been all over him. People from the south can never accept there top men could beat by northern men but in his prime on the streets Paul was the man in or out of prison. Also Lenny McLean claims to of had thousands of fights. In my opinion giving a mouthy drunk a dig isn't a fight but shows you what the difference between Sykes and McLean is Lenny thought giving some poor drunk a dig a fight Paul wouldn't of thought of it as giving someone a back hander and nothing more. Paul Sykes never thought about reputation he was Paul Sykes Lenny wanted people to no him fear him and say Lenny McLean is here. He wanted to be something that Paul was naturally.

    • @paulbanks2832
      @paulbanks2832 3 роки тому

      Where were these Shaw and Sykes fights? I've seen an interview with Sykes where he says he respects Shaw

    • @mg6844
      @mg6844 3 роки тому

      @@paulbanks2832 whilst they were both in the same jail Paul

    • @thedude3866
      @thedude3866 3 роки тому +3

      I smell bullshit skip

    • @paulbanks2832
      @paulbanks2832 3 роки тому

      @@adamstockman5278 But Sykes mentions Shaw in the documentary. Has a lot of respect for him.

    • @jockkardashian.9407
      @jockkardashian.9407 3 роки тому +2

      @@adamstockman5278 I think it's also mentioned in the book Gaol Hawk: Forged in Sheffield.

  • @ryanmcgrath1102
    @ryanmcgrath1102 3 роки тому +1

    What’s the steroid he was given

  • @tonygarforth539
    @tonygarforth539 6 місяців тому +1

    wish i was getting a bet on sykes at evens in is prime like taking candy of a baby

  • @kevthegoat8774
    @kevthegoat8774 2 роки тому +8

    Street or ring Sykes would of beaten Lenny McLean and most of the other British hard men usually mentioned like Roy Shaw, Lee Duffy, Brian Cockerill etc due to the fact he was actually trained for professional competition and not a stranger to street fighting himself, he was more athletic than all of them guys. Sykes pales in comparison to other boxers though like Mike Tyson, Dillian Whyte, Danny Hodge, George Foreman, Hasim Rahman, Larry Holmes, Ike Ibeabuchi etc even in a street fight.

    • @jackthelad15
      @jackthelad15 Рік тому

      Duffy allegedly put it to him in the nick and he didn't want it

  • @Richard61200
    @Richard61200 3 роки тому +2

    This is not Lennys voice

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +1

      Its an actor reading his book

    • @Thcj1973
      @Thcj1973 3 роки тому

      @@warcrypublishing i owe you an apology sir i listend to a podcast last week and thought you were trying to pass it off as Charlie bronson. I said it was pure pish but honestly didnt realise it was actors

  • @wanabepetegreen1132
    @wanabepetegreen1132 2 роки тому +2

    Don't think for one minute that Paul could not street fight, he could be just as ruthless as anyone if provoked .....trust me.

    • @jimmcsweeney8939
      @jimmcsweeney8939 2 роки тому

      He walked away when Lee Duffy provoked him

    • @wanabepetegreen1132
      @wanabepetegreen1132 2 роки тому

      @@jimmcsweeney8939 yes there's a lot of hero's about since his death.....wonder why,🤔

    • @jimmcsweeney8939
      @jimmcsweeney8939 2 роки тому

      @@wanabepetegreen1132 Duffy died 16 years before Sykes

    • @wanabepetegreen1132
      @wanabepetegreen1132 2 роки тому

      @@jimmcsweeney8939 So you are. Now speaking about dead men that can't speak for themselves,...get a grip ffs.

    • @jimmcsweeney8939
      @jimmcsweeney8939 2 роки тому

      @@wanabepetegreen1132 defend? I'm bigging them up respek stylee

  • @samsum3738
    @samsum3738 3 роки тому +8

    All of what i have seen and read of Paul Sykes over the past few days makes me think Sykes was the better man . Although , as the saying goes , you have to be there to see it . Even video cannot truly tell the full story of a man s boxing skills .

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +1

      Agreed

    • @SwissCheese112
      @SwissCheese112 3 роки тому

      look how his kids turned out, if we're talking about better men, lenny wins

    • @DH1985-MB
      @DH1985-MB 2 роки тому

      @@SwissCheese112 completely agree - Sykes was a very talented boxer and could have probably done something if he'd have gone down a different path. he would definitely beat Lenny in a straight up boxing match. But to call Paul 'a better man' is probably a stretch too far. Ruined his own life and that of his kids who both ended up with life sentences for murder.

    • @mikehawk9156
      @mikehawk9156 Рік тому

      @@DH1985-MB I don't think he was referring to his character. Pretty sure he was on about ability.

    • @DH1985-MB
      @DH1985-MB Рік тому

      @@mikehawk9156 Maybe your right mate - if they were I agree. I'll have just been on one the day i wrote that mate - no harm intended.

  • @steft7903
    @steft7903 10 місяців тому +1

    The Guv'nor! Mate lent me the book. The first book i finished in one sitting.

  • @Bennyboy12
    @Bennyboy12 3 роки тому +1

    Fck me jackanorys changed since I was young. Usually you had judi dench reading a lovely story with a happy ending.

  • @mack2183
    @mack2183 2 роки тому +1

    Sykes any day lew yates

  • @bottlewaddle6677
    @bottlewaddle6677 Рік тому +1

    is that Bronson narrating?

  • @davidhutchinson6120
    @davidhutchinson6120 3 роки тому +8

    Ronnie Pickering would have beaten them both at the same time - "Come on, let's have a bare-knuckle then!"

  • @michaelmoran9399
    @michaelmoran9399 3 роки тому +6

    Lenny was very lucky sykes got injured paul would have done him easy Lenny was no John L Gardner.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +1

      Agreed, assuming Sykes kept fit

    • @tommy2guns220
      @tommy2guns220 3 роки тому

      In a ring 100% on the streets 50/50

    • @Hudson_bay_xlbully
      @Hudson_bay_xlbully 3 роки тому

      lenny would of poggered sykes

    • @tommy2guns220
      @tommy2guns220 3 роки тому

      @@Hudson_bay_xlbully I highly dought it in the ring might of been different on the streets

  • @KryptonitetoallBS
    @KryptonitetoallBS Рік тому +2

    I've watched all the available footage of both men and in the boxing ring there would have only been 1 winner, and it wouldn't have lasted long!

  • @mack2183
    @mack2183 2 роки тому +2

    Sykes in his prime would have destroyed him.

  • @bronson2k192
    @bronson2k192 3 роки тому +2

    As if big Lenny was on tren 🤣🤣🤣🤣 animal 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @staytrue5307
    @staytrue5307 3 роки тому +3

    Sykes in the ring McLean on the cobbles

    • @markadams3008
      @markadams3008 3 роки тому +2

      boxing is boxing. sykes was a pro. let that sink in. i’ve seen mclean’s fights. he was an amateur. his technique was of a pub brawler. you’ll be claiming he would beat up superman next. i’d give it a round with or without gloves to sykes.

    • @staytrue5307
      @staytrue5307 3 роки тому

      @@markadams3008 more to street fights than boxing, this coming from a ex boxer, don't be mad pal

    • @markadams3008
      @markadams3008 3 роки тому

      @@staytrue5307 you’re talking absolute bollocks, if all you gleaned from mclean and sykes’ lives respectively is that this would be a street fight.
      i ain’t your pal. with all due respect.

    • @staytrue5307
      @staytrue5307 3 роки тому

      @@markadams3008 grow up dude, your pathetic

    • @markadams3008
      @markadams3008 3 роки тому

      @@staytrue5307 it’s you’re. seriously, just keep it shut because clowns like you open it and just embarrass yourself. i’m still shaking my head in disbelief at your sheer bollocks about the cobbles and “street fighting”.
      ok boxer man

  • @wanabepetegreen1132
    @wanabepetegreen1132 2 роки тому +2

    No way is this Lenny's voice.

  • @e.smiles450
    @e.smiles450 3 роки тому +1

    15 miles at that weight ?

  • @zbox8838
    @zbox8838 Рік тому +4

    Maybe not in the ring, but on the streets, one winner, Lenny absolutely no question

  • @alien1972
    @alien1972 3 роки тому +1

    Would of been a great fight. But without a doubt Sykes would have won in a boxing match. In the streets im not so sure.

  • @swimdeep189
    @swimdeep189 2 роки тому

    Everyone's an expert.

  • @1984chrisyB
    @1984chrisyB 3 роки тому +2

    Just because he was a pro boxer doesn't mean he'd do Lenny on the streets look what happened to Paulie Malignaggi great pro and got his ass handed to him off Artom Lobov in a bare knuckle

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  Рік тому +1

      True, but it was arranged as a boxing match

    • @arranhorron5173
      @arranhorron5173 Рік тому

      mclean and sykes were in for an all in on the cobbles but sykes got a cut eye and phoned lenny said fight was off when lenny got up to 22stone i thought he was very dangerous

  • @markmitchell2282
    @markmitchell2282 2 роки тому +2

    Paul would’ve absolutely battered him

  • @suchasin
    @suchasin 3 роки тому +2

    Ronnie Pickering would iron them all out flat

  • @josephmills619
    @josephmills619 3 роки тому +1

    Is this from the govnor,or made up.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +1

      From his book

    • @josephmills619
      @josephmills619 3 роки тому +1

      @@warcrypublishing I saw on other vid, how Thiers so much footage of Paul in that guys safe you were saying about.hope he does something with it.another documentary would be brilliant.

  • @Beesa10
    @Beesa10 3 роки тому +6

    I've got to be honest, I would love to have seen a fight between these two. My money would be on Sykes, I think Mclean would've had more heart in the fight but he was a prize fighter and doorman for the most part. Sykes was a big strong bloke and experienced pro boxer, I think he would've probably won, but a fight is a fight, it can go either way.

    • @Bullseye50
      @Bullseye50 Рік тому

      Who cares ?
      Bully boys are the lowest form of human beings in my opinion .

    • @Beesa10
      @Beesa10 Рік тому

      @@Bullseye50 Mclean was a bully, Sykes was a rapist.

  • @benpickett3424
    @benpickett3424 3 роки тому +23

    Lenny McLean would of been beaten seenless fact Lenny saying he took steroids once haaaa give me a break go look at him when he fought Roy shaw to later on them for years still a hard bastard oh Paul Sykes would of been way to fast and technical for him

    • @manwithnoname6580
      @manwithnoname6580 3 роки тому +1

      He was taking roids for years.

    • @benpickett3424
      @benpickett3424 3 роки тому +4

      @@manwithnoname6580 off course he was I'm not judging him just know what I see I don't wanna talk I'll off dead or anyone but il be honest Paul Sykes would of beat him easy in a boxing ring

    • @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
      @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 3 роки тому +2

      @@benpickett3424 would not have even been a contest.....Sykes was a different league

    • @mikegallagher3700
      @mikegallagher3700 2 роки тому

      Sykes easy in one 👊💥

  • @ThePegasus101
    @ThePegasus101 3 роки тому +5

    sykes in the ring..lenny on the cobbles

  • @roathripper
    @roathripper Рік тому +1

    ah, so paul never turned his back after all - he was just telling off his corner! I always thought it unfair how the commentator (harry c?) writes him off immediately saying 'his big chance in life has come and gone'. In today's pro game paul would have made a nice career to see him tidy in retirement.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  Рік тому

      I guess it depends who you believe. He’d definitely had enough, I don’t think that makes him a coward

    • @roathripper
      @roathripper Рік тому

      @@warcrypublishing i agree, and as you have put the gloves on yourself I rate your opinion above mine in that respect.
      Some in the boxing industry called dubois a quitter because he took the knee against joyce while others in the game were more forgiving.
      it would be another sadness in the life of PS if that singular moment effectively wrote him off from getting further work in the ring.

  • @brettsykes1206
    @brettsykes1206 3 роки тому +2

    Roy shaw fought just as many pro fights as paul did av read a few books on both men only difference being shaw fought under an assumed name as he was on run from botstal at the time and he was a middle wight

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  Рік тому

      Pro? Are you sure?

    • @brimcilroy9002
      @brimcilroy9002 Рік тому +1

      @@warcrypublishing Roy Shaw fought 10 Pro bouts connected to joey piles stable winning all 10 with 6 by way of ko, Shaw fought under a different name as he was on the run at the time I believe.

  • @michealbreathnach2928
    @michealbreathnach2928 3 роки тому +28

    Sykes would have beaten McLean anywhere and fairly easily at that. Street, ring. Both very tough men but Sykes was just a better fighter.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +5

      Agreed

    • @dieselweaselywoowoo
      @dieselweaselywoowoo 3 роки тому +3

      I’m not so sure, Paul was the obvious Favorite but Lenny was an animal on the gear

    • @michealbreathnach2928
      @michealbreathnach2928 3 роки тому +3

      @@dieselweaselywoowoo No doubt Lenny was a monster and too much for just about any normal man but Paul was a big man too and he was a very hard old school bastard too, in and out of jail. Lenny wouldnt faze him with his roaring coz Sykes was just as nasty. He woulda been used to sparring and fighting some of the best big young prime heavyweights in England at the time and scrapping with the few fellas on the street mad, stupid or unlucky enough to face him.

    • @ianway2725
      @ianway2725 3 роки тому +6

      Gear does not help you against a skilled fighter end of

    • @thomasbrennan5194
      @thomasbrennan5194 3 роки тому +6

      As lenny says Sykes would have been a pushover

  • @lukedavison2254
    @lukedavison2254 2 роки тому +1

    Sykes too fit for him

  • @jongibirdi1394
    @jongibirdi1394 2 роки тому +1

    Mclean

  • @WareBare
    @WareBare Рік тому +1

    Sykes would of smashed Lenny in a ring
    Lenny would of smashed Sykes on the cobbles 🥊

  • @jacklemonhead1.945
    @jacklemonhead1.945 3 роки тому +3

    As a famous hardman once said you get the story of Lenny but don't expect the truth.We will never know.Like they say in parts of the world the hard crazy men put holes in you rather than argue.Some say that's the cowards

  • @mikemike5973
    @mikemike5973 3 роки тому +23

    Haha Paul sykes was a pro he would have knocked lenny out

  • @trustnoone9931
    @trustnoone9931 3 роки тому +5

    Listen if sykes could fight off sharks I think we all know who'd come out on top..

  • @jongibirdi1394
    @jongibirdi1394 2 роки тому +1

    Reckon lenny wud ave done him

  • @yamahajog04
    @yamahajog04 2 роки тому

    shame non of them fought Bartley Gorman

  • @jamesbell256
    @jamesbell256 3 роки тому +7

    Sykes beats len in ring , on street no

  • @deeder2000
    @deeder2000 2 роки тому +1

    On the cobbles as Lenny stated in his book; I believe he was never beaten.

  • @mikehawk9156
    @mikehawk9156 Рік тому +1

    Couple of bullies in reality.Although I wouldn't have actually told them....

  • @arthurtaylor9765
    @arthurtaylor9765 3 роки тому

    Liquid cosh and I knew Paul Sykes outside I'm from Wakefield as well and he died on streets at Tramp

  • @paulsmith3134
    @paulsmith3134 3 роки тому +12

    Brian Cockerill was also offered a fight with Paul Sykes, which he mentions in his book, The Resurrection of Brian Cockerill.
    Brian was a Street fighter who had bashed Lee Duffy and Viv Graham didn't want to know.
    He weighed 24 stone, benched 630 pounds, squatted 800 pounds and could really fight.
    He would have been a good test for Paul Sykes or Lennie McLean.
    I will get slaughtered for this but I think Brian in his prime might have been able to beat Paul or Lenny in a straightener.

    • @neilrogers6767
      @neilrogers6767 3 роки тому +24

      Those stats are a lie. 630lb my arse.

    • @warcrypublishing
      @warcrypublishing  3 роки тому +7

      He certainly had the strength, not sure if he could Box to any standard like Sykes etc.

    • @nickybower9981
      @nickybower9981 3 роки тому +17

      Was that before or after Brian had trials for the Miami dolphins because of his size

    • @monitor4728
      @monitor4728 3 роки тому +11

      Cockerill is a known BULLSHITER who’s brain is fried dm from being a speed head for years ....don’t believe half the shite he spews

    • @smithy4297
      @smithy4297 3 роки тому +14

      Cockerill was a monster of a man but if he didn’t land a monster punch within 30 seconds he would be blowing out of his arse. Sykes could go all day being a trained athlete he would have weathered the storm or boxed him at range then take him apart quite easily in Queensbury rules

  • @camouflage873
    @camouflage873 2 роки тому +1

    Luckily for Lenny it didn't happen

  • @johnbailey9314
    @johnbailey9314 2 роки тому +1

    Sykes easy

  • @dannyhancock6354
    @dannyhancock6354 3 роки тому +5

    Sykes would have done Lenny

  • @alberlusconi1
    @alberlusconi1 3 роки тому +4

    Sykes wins in the ring, but Lenny would win on the streets

    • @jimlock6152
      @jimlock6152 3 роки тому +1

      I’m afraid Sykes would utterly destroy him both on the street and in the ring..,

  • @r.p.mcmurphy22
    @r.p.mcmurphy22 Рік тому +1

    Paul Sykes was the only one out of all of them that wasn't a sted head he was naturally big and hard and was a trained fighter he was the real deal compared to the rest. you take steroids away from all these other names and they'd be fuck all none of them wud have lasted 2 second with Paul Sykes FACT!!

  • @stevens5541
    @stevens5541 2 роки тому +2

    Sykes would kill mcclean