Los Angeles to Las Vegas high-speed rail
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- Construction has begun for a high-speed rail that would connect Los Angeles to Las Vegas by 2028. Pasi Lautala, the director of Michigan Tech University's Rail Transportation Program, joins CBS News with more.
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People keep saying that having a car means freedom. But imagine being able to go anywhere, at any time, with no traffic, and you could sip wine or work on your laptop or whatever while doing it. That's what trains can provide.
I never understand the logic that car is freedom. Was a propaganda stunt from the 1950s which actually worked. So many American cities are now designed specifically for the car. Basically can’t go anywhere without a car. How is that freedom?
Door to door, it's quicker by plane from LA to Vegas than it would be having to take this stupid train that is 40 minutes EAST of Downtown LA, and doesn't even have a station in downtown Vegas but 9 MILES south of it!!!! LMAO
@@ScrewyDriverTheMantaking the plane would be slower
@@procrastinatingpuma From where I am, it's WAY quicker. Burbank to Vegas is 40 minutes, getting out of McCarron is 10 minutes and it's much closer than the train station to the Strip and it's cheaper
@@ScrewyDriverTheMan Well this is a small start. You can begin to understand the experience around the NYC metro where you can go to a lot of cute local places by commuter rail. But that's still just scratching the surface of what it should be.
Now let's keep building more trains 👏
and lets keep the conservatives and the far right at bay🤣🤣🤣
no thanks
@@eldebtor6973 america needs passenger trains
Wait a minute you look familiar. I think I've seen you on X or something but I cant remember tho.
We need better public transportation in each city before connecting rails. Then American car loving selfish train lovers hate that idea.
This is so overdue! Now pressure needs to be applied to Las Vegas to build a practical, affordable light rail system to go with it. Even if train fees are expensive, so are car parking fees at most Strip resorts.
its because of the FAR RIGHT, THEY HATE TRAINS🤣🤣🤣
The 9,000 taxi drivers will make sure this never happens. Put a train from the Airport, down the STrip to DT, and you lose 5,000 taxi drivers. Ever wonder why the Monorail dead ends at the MGM and doesn't continue on to the Airport?
@@michaelellringer5600 Oh, I’m well aware of the stranglehold the Taxicab Authority has on public transportation. The ride share companies had a vicious battle to get permits to gain airport access. The monorail is a joke, running empty most of the time. This is why outside pressure needs to be applied.
@@ERAforALL How about a worldwide boycott of Las Vegas? That would put pressure on the city! We're boycotting Las Vegas because there's no train to meet us at the Airport and to take us to the Strip and to downtown.
@@michaelellringer5600 Don’t mock me. 85% of Nevada’s revenue comes from that less than five mile stretch known as the Las Vegas Strip. Hundreds of thousands of resort workers would be harmed, not to mention the providers of goods and services THEY utilize. A boycott would be too extreme. I’m suggesting that input from outside the city be directed toward the city authorities, nothing more.
This actually seems to make a lot of sense. LA traffic is just the worst. The more GOOD trains the better. (Good Trains = no crazy & violent junkies riding the train like they do on BART).
This isn’t metro, junkies probably can’t afford hundreds of dollars of Bright-line tickets
We need to enforce the law to kick gangster out public transportation.
OH, many train lovers just don't want to ride with poor people. Poor people are also the victims.
LA trains make traffic even worst because you need cars.
Many people work near train stations don't even recommend because you need cars.
Many train lovers insist building parking lots at train stations.
They got a lot weird arguments but they just forgot driving to train stations do not reduce traffic.
Brightline West has stated a nonstop travel time of 2 hours 10 minutes for Las Vegas to Rancho Cucamonga. Metrolink, LA’s regional rail service, currently takes 74 minutes between Rancho Cucamonga and LA Union Station. Including say 10 minutes to transfer at RC, that’s a travel time of about 3 1/2 hours, and really closer to four hours for downtown LA to the Las Vegas Strip and vice versa, which is about what the drive time with minimal traffic would be. Given one of Brightline West’s primary goals is to reduce traffic, that drive time should be more consistent.
It’s worth noting though that the train will provide a nicer ride experience than driving, or flying, and Brightline West anticipates making fares close to the cost of driving (fuel plus parking) and competitive with airfare.
I would just drive to rancho and park.
The goal is to eventually have high speed rail go all the way to LA Union Station.
If there's 5 people in a car vs paying for 5 tickets, thats another equation. Also driving has its benefits, once you'r in the new city, you have a mode of transportation, instead of taking public transportation or renting a car. It would have been nice had it went all the way from dt la to the the strip.
@@wl6020all valid points but it will be twice as fast as driving and you can nap, watch a movie, finish some work on your laptop and not worry about traffic. You can still drive or fly it’s just nice to have options
@@mattkennedy6115 taking the commercial bus from la to las vegas might be 4 - 5.5 hours, probably much cheaper. You can still nap and read a book.
All that money and it won’t take you directly to L.A.?
The project would've been much more expensive if it goes directly to LA. But they do have plans for it later on.
theyre avoiding the homeless and the drug addicts... itll turn into kensington of LA
We need a high speed la to New York no stops
😂😂.
hell no high speed rail is for trips less than 300 miles not for thousands 😭
I died on this one 😂😂
@@jimmyjohn6479You’re actually wrong. I’ve gone from Munich HBF to Rome, and have gone from Rome to the Paris North station. Great train rides too and very fast, although our trains won’t be as fast as the European hi speed trains (just like our cars aren’t as fast as the European car models are).
@@jimmyjohn6479 High speed rail can definitely be used for much longer trips, and it does in the world. This new line is not exactly full HSR as the train will only as it follows a less than adequate rout that only allows full speeds on a few sections and it does not reach an actual large city (it's an extra hour to get to LA city center with Metrolink) and will have just a single track most of the way.
The "recommended" distance is up to 500-600 mi and the current longest line is ~1430 mi (takes 8h with stops).
There are other popular lines that exceed 600 mi and take around 4h30-5h30.
A real HSR line can do the Brightline route in about in about 1h20 and with and extra 20 to get to LA city center.
A non stop line Between LA to NYC is too long for a day trip but as a night train it can be great as you can leave in the evening, get a good night sleep and wake up in LA in the morning. There is also the possibility to create such a line, once a network is in place, that can take you all the way but most will use between cities along the route, not necessarily for the whole route (as happens today with Amtrak).
When the alternative is a much slower car/bus or a far more stressful and not very reliable flights, that require you to get to the airport, that is far from the center and the ride is not cheap, long before scheduled departure, go through security and after long waits and delays you sit in a cramped seat until you arrive to your destination and, again, it takes quite a while before you can disembark, than you walk to get a long expensive ride to the city center.
its more like 3h because you have to take metrolink to dtla. hope we can also get link to OC - rancho
Its not 'Los Angeles ' to Las Vegas. The train would start in Rancho Cucamonga, more than an hour from downtown LA, not even LA County
This is another politician boondoggle. Wait until the cost over runs b
Most excellent! Keep it up!
Liars - it's not connecting Los Angeles to Las Vegas, it's connecting Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas. Rancho is about 50 miles away from Los Angeles, a full hour travel time if not more depending on traffic.
Yeah but then from La to cucumonga there will be an additional track connecting. You think they will get any business from what you’re saying? No they are smarter than that and know LA is where the money is at.
@@jdos5643 Maybe, maybe not. It's not in the current plans. Plus land between Rancho and downtown L.A. is really expensive. They could use the existing track but have to work with Metrolink and probably wouldn't be any faster.
@@mattbosley3531 they are still going to connect with La since that’s where the population and money and business is at.
@@jdos5643 is that via their own tracks though, sharing Metrolink SB Line (does it have the capacity capability to handle half-hourly Metrolink service and BLW trains, and does LAUS for that matter?), or heading to Palmdale and waiting on CAHSR to complete its line to LAUS (which still wouldn’t address the potential capacity issue at LAUS)? I could see a few BLW trains sharing CAHSR tracks for direct LA-Vegas service, while most others would continue to terminate at RC and Palmdale. When CAHSR reaches Palmdale and LA remains to be seen, though I would say it is a matter of when, not if.
Thanks, Biden. His plan is working.
The train takes you straight to Trump Hotel
@@allanc5743
Trump should thank Biden for bailing him out! Lol
@@harutosunaa3881Biden doesn't know that he is the president
lol no
American is good at talking
I have been supporting high speed rail for my city Rancho Cucamonga from the start. I am proud of myself, my city, my government, and Brightline 🎉
Gonna be great
How long they been working on high speed rail from sf to la
The West Coast is the best coast!
Will communities have to get DEW’d to make way for the track?
Good! Finally we’re getting the trains 🎉
The cost of a round trip ticket will be $400 according to Brightline the operator. Roundtrip by airplane anywhere from $88 to $364. So it will cost a couple $800 by train. Flight time 1:20; train 2 hours.
Train time of 2 hours is from Ranco Cucamonga to Las Vegas, another 75 minutes from LA to Rancho Cucamonga, most flights are from LA or Orange County to Las Vegas. Most people going to Las Vegas are from LA or Orange.
Texas is still waiting on Dallas to Houston rail line 😢
They almost had it in the early 90s had it not been for Southwest Airlines lobbying heavily against it, leading a misinformation campaign to get it shut down. Amtrak is now getting involved with the Texas Central project.
Dallas to Houston could arguably be the best US city pair for high speed rail, with the right distance, travel numbers, and a largely straight route with little to no geographical obstacles (i.e. mountains).
For one way, it takes 2 hours 40 minutes with good traffic to travel from Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas around $40 to 80 depending on your vehicle, with your vehicle to get around afterwards. The train will cost $200 and 2 hours with no vehicle to use. The choice is obvious. The train will fail.
Will probably take many years to complete like the Big Dig of Boston 😂😂😂
Kind of slow speeds but this will make flights cheaper.
What about California High-Speed Rail traveling from Los Angeles to San Francisco?
I’ve said it elsewhere, but the line terminating in RC instead of Union Station is a massive mistake. It’s too far away from the rest of LA to be viable.
It's a great start with the potential to alleviate a lot of traffic and pollution in the High Desert, not to mention the IE by itself is the nation's 12th largest metro area with a population approaching 5 million.
And what will be ticket price,after arriving need to use taxi or public transport and cost for the trips ? My opinion, I Don live the idea is not reducing traffic on motorway and public roads
Sorry, the dudes wrong. The total cost on construction is $12bn. Only $5bn of that is private funding. The remaining $7bn is government funding.
...in 100 years time.
They still haven’t finished the rail way between SF and LA. Do you really think this will happen on schedule.😂
This is a private company, not a public entity.
@@StefanWithTrains3222 Also, it's being built mainly in no man land, so there are no nimbys, which can prolong the process and increase the price of the land on which it will be built.
Yes i think soo because Florida got theirs fast
the actual group behing California HSR is so comically mismanaged its not even funny. Never look to them to see an example of what things would look like if they were done well
@@WillTheBassPlayer Brightline will be looking at helping that project in the future.
Yeah, I can see that because this is awesome and to be honest always in California and so yes, this is awesome and I can bring it to international
Where do you board the train?
Rancho Cucamonga Metrolink station. You’ll be able to ride Metrolink between there and LA to connect with Brightline West. Metrolink plans to increase frequency to half-hourly, and BLW plans on departures every 45 minutes. I’d guess transfer times between Metrolink and BLW will be between 10 and 15 minutes.
I ❤las vegas neon
I'm in phoenix. This would be great from here to Vegas.
I haven't had the chance to go to Phoenix in 6 years; I ought to go again sometime. Just because I go there doesn't mean it's for everybody else, though.
And train run with oil or electrification? ?
It would be a gigantic white elephant if cost escalate and project delay. Tickets likely to be prohibitive for travelers vs flights.
One roundtrip RR ticket will be a minimum of $400 according to the operator. Spirit charges $88 Frontier $138 Jet Blue $182 roundtrip
Please, build one from oklahoma city to Denver and dallas.
Heck, why there's no HSR connecting the Texas triangle still boggles my mind. I absolutely hate it.
@@spartan0x75 they are building one from Dallas to Houston, not sure when that will start.
@@nikhilkay1 yeah, but if I understand it correctly, they haven't acquired all the land yet, right? It is good news that Amtrak is now more heavily involved. And with additional support from the federal government, this might actually happen. But I'm not keeping my hopes up and who knows if Southwest is gonna lobby their way into blocking it again 😬
Very overdue but better than never.
dang can they make one from michigan lol
"I'm from Europe originally" - Noooo! Really?? We had no idea! 😂
i thought he's from Tennessee.
I thought he's from Michigan
Must of cost alot of money to build
Same with interstates and highways, but we don't complain about those because we muricans love our freedom
@@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq that just proves how much China focuses on building their own infrastructure for their own people. Rather than throwing money towards the expensive military fighting foreign wars.
@@CatpoopTacosAmericans have planes
Planes exist in USA
@@AbimaelLopez-hz3qq maybe there’s people who don’t want to deal with TSA, like convenience, or are scared of flying. Don’t be so one sided
They should make it very expensive to keep poor people off it.
They will.
That’s impossible! How can you can from L.A. to Vegas by train?
literally says in the video, get off of those drugs
In 1995, people rode the train from Los Angeles to Las Vegas.
Great. A high-speed train made for gamblers.
Only 25% of visitors to Las Vegas now gamble!
Stop Calling it LA to Vegas. It is Rancho Cucamonga to Vegas, big difference!!!
1) This is a great start, especially if you're willing to be a multi-modal transit user (i.e. Metrolink and Amtrak in SoCal and RTC in Vegas -- the Deuce or the upcoming Maryland Parkway BRT).
2) Sure RC is 40 miles from Union Station, but aren't most airports far from city centers? JFK, LAX, O'Hare, DFW, ATL, Dulles, Denver, Houston, to name a few.
@@turbojon8117 between Metrolink, Brightline West, OmniTrans, local bus service, and a planned people mover to Ontario Airport using autonomous on-demand zero-emission vehicles (www.gosbcta.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/ONT-tunnel-fact-sheet_012424-1.pdf), the Rancho Cucamonga station is going to become quite the transit hub.
@@turbojon8117 I am a big fan of public transportation but it just doesn’t make sense in LA. When I live in SF/Bay Area, I love taking the BART/Muni….and it worked.
In LA, for me to get to Santa Monica from DTLA, I have to walk, bus, train, bus, and walk (that’s one way) to get to my destination (and it was almost 2 hours each way). Why would I do that when it also say I can drive for 30 minutes?
Similarly here, if I am anywhere west of Rancho C, why would I get in my car drive an 30-45 minutes, park, wait for train and do something similar at Vegas side? Also, I heard tickets can be as much as $400?
@@charlestan7903 LA transit undoubtedly has tons of room for improvement, but the R10 covers that 15 mile trip in 38 minutes and the Metro E line does it in 45 minutes.
It's fine if it doesn't make any sense or appeal to you, but a lot of people will be drawn in by the 130-minute train ride that doesn't require you to gamble and *HOPE* it will be a 4 hour drive rather than 5 or 6 hours. Getting from the Vegas station to the Strip is already super easy and quick and will only get faster and easier in the next four years.
That’s just one segment. I still have to get to and from the station (and all the waiting in between).
Why is the train station in RC? No one in OC will want to take it.
Either drive I-15 to RC and leave your car, have someone drop you off, or take Amtrak/Metrolink to LAUS then Metrolink SB Line to RC.
Tired of every news outlet using the “to LA” tagline when it is clearly stopping nowhere close and not going to benefit anyone in LA county. Even if I can get to Union Station in 3.5hrs, I still got to fight traffic to get to wherever after arriving. Better off trying for a high speed train from LA or San Diego to Phoenix and then spend the next 30years trying to expand, roughly following the 10 freeway until they reach Florida. This Vegas train will never be cheaper or faster than flying nonstop if you’re planning ahead and offers the same convenience of not having to drive yourself plus no transfers. If this company is so great at streamlining to get things done, tell them to takeover that mess of a LA to San Francisco high speed rail project…
Could a person go to los Angeles from vegas or just go to veags from los Angeles
How will they get back? Of course is back and forth.
No longer need to drive
NFL football games gonna be packed !!
That Chargers-Raiders rivalry gonna be huge. All the LA-area Raiders fans making the trek to Vegas, and Vegas fans heading to LA. Brightline West will absolutely need to have a “Raiders Express” train for that match-up, whether the game be in LA or Vegas.
High speed passenger rails or Military Transport System for civil war ??? The lines exist just passenger cars on them 🤷♀️
Oh private company so how are you getting the land to build your private company owned super tunnel
Europe and America sucks at public transportation specially High Speed Trains. Learn from the first pioneers of HST Japan. They made it possible 60 years ago from this year. It’s fast, clean and technologically advanced and efficient. I hope the whole America would have HIGH SPEED TRAINS
You people must visit China to see how expansive the HST in China is. From 2008 till now they built 45,000km of high speed rail. I have travelled many times.
I wonder when will the LA rail be completed. Maybe engage China if they are interested.
Big gimmick because it takes the average drive about 3 1/2 hours to approx 4 hrs already between la and Vegas. So taking it to rancho will already take about an hr plus that 2 hrs will equal about 3 hrs so you're only cutting off thirty min to an hr more or less when cars are more fun already
At $400 to ride it????
No
THANKS
It will never be finished by 2028
It will never be finished.
There I fixed it for you.
Yes it does or go to Dubai or New Cairo City.
Well I think it will be, given Brightline's track record.
@@nwsportstilidiepeople seem to not understand how these types of projects work
@@StefanWithTrains3222 So how does it work? European and Asian countries don't seem to have a problem building high speed rail fast.
I knew about this awhile ago from another youtube channel
Wii make japan maker
You can thank Biden!
Buy Den thinks he can buy everything.
I dont think we will complete the high speed rail from L.A. to Las Vegas in 2028. China will complete in 3 yrs. 2027, we will complete in 2030 or later.
I'm ready to blow all my paycheck in Vegas every weekend now! Who's with me?
2028 mor like 2150 what a joke
Dumbest HSR project in the world.
Even if rail were connected to LA to Vegas in 2028, the tourists will not take it because unlike Japan, Taiwan, China, France, German, Great Britain, etc, you need cars to Union Station n you need cars to get out Vegas.
The ridership will be low whether from Cucamonga or LA.
A train across desert stop just to pick some people along small towns.
Most HSR don't make money. Shanghai to Beijing make money because of 80 million plus annual ridership . Samething to Tokyo to Osaka, 80 million annual ridership. Taiwan HSR loses money because of low ridership, 55 million annually.
Even the ones that lose money will have more ridership than the expected annual ridership.
OH, those HSR connects population dense towns n people dont drive in n nou of stations. No one is fool enough to justify you must own cars to use HSR.
Don't worry Brightline will sell this stupid line to CA n NV government. Private industry is not going to lose money, but this line is going to lose money.
High speed rail for those that wish to lose money, but not for those that make money? WTF?
The New Étihad Raíl is cost $100 Billion Dollars (if I recall correctly), so you must see this project connecting Dubai to Riyadh.
So many passenger trains weren't put into service to make money, Brother; their purpose was to provide transportation for people who are afraid to fly.
@@MrJuvefrank Vegas is a 5 hour drive... 4 if you're the average LA driver. "For the people whom are afraid to fly," seems like a lame justification for "B"illions of dollars to be invested.
Could you make one in Guatemala? We would appreciate.
Not any fast and more expensive?? Wow.
Well, I was hoping for clarification. I've heard it cuts the travel time in half... but today, I thought i heard it could be driven in less time..
@@JimboInTheHouse1 Yeah, if you speed and drive like a maniac it'll be driven in less time. But if you've ever driven to and from LA and VG, you know it takes up to 8 hrs with traffic.
@@CatpoopTacos that makes sense. Thanks
China is building 10x longer train tracks every year, and these TVs making big fuzz about this project. Why not many extention of train tracks have not been build in the past 40 years ? Who would be interested in that ?
not the right.
a private company didn’t build the train that’s why its taking a long time except brightline
There's no 2025, 2026, 2027, or 2028. According to people saying that the world will end
They don't know anything about the end of the world. People like them said it would be in 1980. Said 1988. Said year 2000. You don't have to believe their bull.
When I drive to Vegas from LA (not Cucamonga) I always go when there's no traffic (6am departure). Takes me 3.5 hours, faster than this soon-to-fail 'High Speed' train (4 hours from Cucamonga to Vegas)
It's 2 hour 15 min.
With restrooms and probably VR luxuries.
It’s supposed to be about two hours from point A to point B. Much faster than 3.5 hours 😅
@@RudieObias most people don't live in Cucamonga, and I'm talking 3.5 hours door-to-door. Driving is much faster.
@@papagen00 Do you expect most people to start traveling at 6am?
Atlast HST in US...great..
give the contract to the Chinese,they will build it in 2 years..
(afterall Chinese labourers toiled for building US railroads in the past...
Hi, there, the Chinese government is manipulating; I doubt they like it when the Chinese come here. A lot of communists are like that.
450km per hour high speed train in china😂😂and 140 000kms😂😂and first High speed train in usa.😂😂
Using low grade Asian train parts 💰🤑
Nope. Brightline West has shortlisted two candidates for trains, Siemens and Alstom, both European manufacturers, and Siemens is the favorite to be chosen. Federal “Buy America” requirements state trains must be built in the US with US-made parts and US labor. Nevada DOT is seeking an exemption from the FRA for Brightline West to allow the first two trains to be made abroad in Europe, where US staff will examine the manufacturing process so they know how to replicate it here, as well as certain components that currently aren’t able to be made here yet that would also be made in Europe. Siemens has proposed a new plant in Nevada, while Alstom would use its existing plant in New York State. Brightline West will officially select a train manufacturer later this year.
This is criminal. Who is in charge of supporting the Vice of gambling! This affects society so negatively.
Las Vegas isn't just about gambling, people go for shows and other entertainment, stop pushing your own religious bias.
@@johnhaxby306 Yep! I go there for the great gay bars! 😂😂 (Oh wait - he won't like that either. Or WILL he??? 🤔🤔)
I don’t gamble, but this has nothing to do with gambling, it’s about transportation, the environment, economics.
@@johnhaxby306 Nothing religious. Just facts, gambling, drugs, and prostitution run that town.
I don’t gamble, but I like visiting Las Vegas 😅
United States has the worst public transportation in the world.
Absolutely. Hopefully this will change now
You haven't rode the light rail/subway system in L.A.? It's marvelous! Don't need a car in L.A. anymore!
It’s taking a long time because a private company didn’t build the train before 2016
India too will have bullet train known as shinkansen by 2026 for 500+ km from gujrat to Mumbai
is garbage only 30 miles can reach 180mph
the rest of the way goes between 70 to 90 mph
plus majority of the tracks are 1 lane only to share,
what a garbage
hope they make it electric and is not another diesel crap like miami to orlando
that is techology from the 1960s
I don't think we'll get anything better on the ground. Planes are faster and cheaper if you consider them likable.
conservatives and the far right on the cringe😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ToyLavigna aweeee why the cringe?🤣🤣🤣🤣
You people are being fooled 2028 ain't going to happen it took him 5 years just to get from Miami to West Palm I'm here I watched it and a lot of people died along the way from the accidents I think they're up to 102 deaths so far since their conception holding the world record and because of so many accidents people don't want to take the train because when the train gets in an accident and the vehicle is stuck underneath the train with a fatality in it they don't tell you that you're going to be stuck on it from 4 to 6 hours before the train gets moving again and now it's made its way to Orlando not 5 years later either so don't believe a word they say and the train station with all the amenities well here in Miami ours is always empty people show up at the last minute to get on the train they're not sitting in the bar that's now closed and it's way overpriced and once again get caught in an accident you're not going anywhere
Considering like 96% of the route is just the center median, no right of way disputes, private land owners, or nimbys in the way 2028 is very very possible..... also for accidents again its in the center median of a highway and all grade separated as well..... so I guess that will reduce all the potential accidents because of American cavemen who don't know how to drive and can't comprehend what a train is😂😂😂
Brightline West will be 100% grade separated.
Go to Dubai or New Cairo City then.
Was this one sentence? 😅
MIA-WPB took 4 years from the creation of the company to service. It took them 5 years from WPB-ORD (no progress in 2020- halfway thru 2021) with extra stations on the existing section. You need to realise they went from a company without ANY experience to a company that build a 125mph RR. They now have the experience in hand from Florida to build projects faster and cheaper.