Hammock Suspensions Part 6...UCRs & Whoopie Slings
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Don’t mind a little repetition, you’re a great teacher and I always learn something new. Thanks a bunch Shug ✌🏼
Repitition is a bit necessary.
I'm fairly new to hammock camping, maybe two or three years. Most of the things I've learned was from you. Thanks Shug for sharing your ideas and experiences. I hope you and your family is well. God Bless!
Whoooooo Buddy)))))
I blindly got a hammock with whoopie slings & carabiners, I just liked the word whoopie. They are really good though, easy to centre.
Thanks for all the videos, now I spend my weekends like a bardi grub.
I am whoopie all the way. Whoooo Buddy)))))
I love that you repeat concepts in your videos. It also helps that you put like videos into playlists. Like you said, it's rare that someone is going to binge watch all of the videos that you have ever put out over the years or be able to successfully search for a specific subject. Great job!
Thankee thankee....
You are correct there are those of us that are new. We sincerely appreciate every minute of effort you put into these. I have learned so much about hammock camping, and as an old beat up former footballer, and soon to be retired cop who has a few scars here and there from both adventures, a hammock has allowed me to actually enjoy sleeping in the woods again, where I just could not do it on the ground. THANK YOU. I will be sad when I finally get through watching all of your videos, and I will have to wait until that bell goes off for a new one. ~Shane~
Enjoy your retirement and get some good hammock-time in. I often sleep 10 hours in my hammocks. A true gift. Only 5 hours in my bed at home. The woods are a peaceful place.
Thankfully we have guys like you making videos for us new guys to learn from. Keep up the great work. Always appreciated.
I aim to help if I can.
You may be repeating, but your getting much better at it. Thanks Shug.
That bears repeating......
I've decided my favorite go to now is the Cinch Buckle, 15' of strap EVO loops on the tree end in favor of the Dutch Clip.
The detail oriented stuff you do is great, I love it.
Thankee.
Thanks Shug, reviewing some of your older videos to dial in my suspension. The plethora of knowledge shared has my confidence up, and I cannot thank you enough!
Glad to hear that...Whoooooo Buddy))))
Appreciate the work you put in Shug, tips that save time and hassle with the added bonus of comfort👍
My aim is to help.
Came back for a review as want to switch from cinch buckles as extra long straps bit bulky and as well stretch but can keep in trunk as backup. Excellent video as usual, your the best. Thanks.
Whoooooo Buddy))))
ahhhhh..that nostalgia feels good!
was one of my first video on hammocks :)
I am a fan of nostalgia and sorta live in the past these days.
such a vast knowledge built up in only 10 years with all the other things you do, wow
Easy to learn fun stuff that gets you in the woods.
Great series Shug! Thanks for the time and effort.... I feel a bit smarter and you gave me a smile or two.
Wracked my brain on that one.
Details, Details, Details, I LOVE it. Thanks for the video. JT. from Oregon
Y'elcome!
TY, Shug. As a first time hanger this helps tremendously. It’s very hard to find clear, concise demonstrations of these hammock “basics”. This series has been invaluable.
Glad that it had some value.
Just hooked up my first Whoopie ! So much more adjustable! Just what I needed. Happy hanging!!
Good to hear that.
Your knowledge is very appreciated! Thank you for taking the time to teach this amateur. Hoping to have a more comfortable hammock because of these tutorials. Whoooobuddy.....
I will be napping in my Warbonnet today after doing shows all weekend.
Great series Shug! Started hammocking last year and going to explore it more this year and especially the last month! very nice to get your input on all these stuff!
Whooooooo Buddy)))))0
I appreciate you for sharing your experience with us I just got a hammock this year still learning wish you all the very best until next time my friend happy holidays
Enjoy it.
I am only about a yr into hammocks now, and I have found that setting up and tearing down my tarp and hammock is half the fun of it all. I love trying all the new suspensions and hardware available also. So much good stuff and good companies also. Thanks for all the good information Shug.
Yes. It is fun to me too.
I just got my first spool of 180 feet of Zing-It and made a whole bunch of stuff already. I made a pair of UCRs for my tarp just putting together a few different ideas. I made a short little end to larks-head onto my tarp and figured I'd make it a dogbone-style to have some extra grip if I had to fiddle with it in the rain while under the tarp. I didn't know until now that my second loop is going to be for a prusik backup! I appreciate that tip! I was a little worried about how a flapping tarp would hold, but now I'll have a backup prusik. Good to know my second loop will have a purpose, I just put it there because it seemed like it would be fun to try. My UCR guylines are adjustable from just over one foot up to six feet for porch mode. I also made some extra dogbones about two feet long that I can larks-head on for additional length if needed. I'll test my first pair of UCRs out and if they work as planned I'll make another pair.
Hope they serve you well.
So glad to see new vids out for these topics :D
This may actually be the perfect rig for my hammock, I have 2 hang spots in my yard (one by the road is good for day hanging but at night people are jerks and lay on the horn) and it takes forever to get the hang perfect so I bought some ratchet straps and diy'd some spare tree straps with pennies (as washers) and rivets, but with it getting to be winter I really do need to take my straps down unless I camp.. freezing rain won't be too good for them Im sure
Whoooooo Buddy)))))
Thanks for referring me to this video from HF. Really helped.
Y'elcome feller.
Shug, I just started laying the groundwork for my first hammock trip. My brother and I are going out to test our first night as non-ground dwellers, largely inspired by your resources. Thanks for all the information!
Whoooooo Buddy)))) Be patient and make sure to use a pad or something for insulation underneath. Gets chilly on the back about 2am.
Love the DIY stuff. Haven't gotten my grubby paws onto any Amsteel just yet. I shall, someday.
I kinda love it.
That's a pretty video, mm, hm...I can't tell you the nights when I've set up the hammock using a headlamp, dog tired and unsure I was doing it right. Fortunately, I could recall your past video and hear you words, "Hang on the knot and not the toggle." I could then hang with confidence :) Thank you Shug! "Woo Buddy!"
Yessir.
I did some intensive research and i learned that the UCR was made by a great Enginneer named Maple King in the late 1800. Cheers to you and your awesome video. ATB -Yves
Not sure he is really smart enough...a C+ student at best....haaaaa
shugemery Tell him he is welcome in our C+ club!
Outstanding video Shug.
I myself have spent countless nights hanging with ma whoopies but am eager to try them beatles once they arrive through customs. I am therefore looking forward to your next video.
Sector 7 is secure and richer with this series of videos.
I prefer all black straps and may switch my Beetles to that. The black and white dyneema just kept drawing my eye to it too much. Took away from the woods for me.
who said Hi-Tec can´t be beautiful :)
Bravo, great series
Thanks. Hope it sheds some light.
ive been in freezing rain at well below zero and never had my whoppies freeze up. guess im lucky :) i like those UCR's and never heard of them till this video. gonna get a pair soon now :) thanks...
Whoooooo Buddy)))))
i like how you talk about strings : )
A subject worthy of expansion!
Ahh....shug, You got this 0l' Man to smile'n again today. I learn so much from you. My only thing is my memory is NOT to LONG anymore and I Forget what you learn't me earlier, Darn-it.
👍
Love your pants.
Happy pants.
Jonny thanks you Shuge, of the third person in the third person, for your help regarding "whoopie slings" Jonny has just ordered some to use with his lightweight tree straps.
Shug is glad for Jonny with no H.....! Whooooo Buddy))))
Hey Shug, love the video, I use a UCR for my hang. But for my constrictor rope I have a dog-bone. It has a loop on each end. Off on side I have a prusik to keep from slipping, but when I have a very short distance, I just use the dog bone. This way I can get even closer.
Good stuff.
Use this as a ridge line now I world is long as suspension as well. Thanks friend
Yessir.
ON searching videos: Oh, I see 'em all. Despite the mixed up mess that YT wants us to look at, when I find a great teacher on a subject I look to their channel (ignoring the YT "diversionary guidance") and see all of their videos that fit my interests. Hyper-focus and binging on a topic-is an ADD thingie.
I've seen all your stuff Shug. Damn near every vid you've published. Thanks for all your work in making them. I share some of them too. You're solidly in my top 10 of all YT video makers. You Sir are the ONLY hammock/hike/camp/juggler with a mandolin that I watch! Ever I promise!!! WHOOBUDDY! the coffee is good this morning in Tennessee. despite damn loud aircrafts...
Good to know! Whooooo Buddy)))))
Really helpful information
Y'elcome feller.
I have the same problem. With over 700 videos up I can have a hard time finding one in particular. I do have a catalog for my trailer vids though. That helps a lot.
It does get tough.
I appreciate the education
Y'elcome!
Whooo buddy!
Yessir!
Great info. I was wondering if there is a way to hang your suspension with amsteel without a whoopy sling and still be adjustable. Love my webbing and cinch buckles setup but heavy. Any ideas
Maybe a dutch buckle.....dutchwaregear.com/product/dutch-buckle-complete-suspension/#dutch-buckle
I can offer up my suspension series for insight.....ua-cam.com/play/PLahaAdtfX9ZJ8QsJqWwRN4_MaZ8UAyzWm.html
Could you tell me the breaking strength of the webbing on your tree straps. I love your videos. Please keep it up.
About 2000 pounds.....www.warbonnetoutdoors.com/product/custom-strap-builder/
"Sir ShugMeister" the last bit, what a sense of Humour, 😂 on the same wave length.
uh huh....uh huh.....
Hey shug,love your channel! Found you when i was looking for light weight camping gear to carry on my motorcycle. I never considered hammock camping but you make it sound easy and comfy,i want to give it a try. I was wonderin if you could make a video of your stage work in full dress?I love your light hearted humor! It always brings a smile to my face! Keep on juggling,Cheers!
MovingForward
Oh....I got that.... ua-cam.com/play/PL80181D450579ED04.html
Thank You Sir
I do not mind hearing the same info repeated. Practice is doing something over and over again until you get better at it.
Also.. since I do not hammock camp myself.. yet. A reminder is a good thing.
Thank you for the video brother
Repetition works! Repetition works! Repetition works!
Ive been switching back and forth between whoopie sling and marline spike hitch right on to the tree strap. Maybe I should upgrade and try out a cinch buckle.
Not sure it is an upgrade....just different.
This is a good one. dutchwaregear.com/product/ti-cinch-buckle-complete-suspension/#ti-cinch-buckle-amsteel-loop-pair
@@shugemery yes, upgrade was the wrong word. I'm just looking to try everything hammock camping has to offer I guess.
Thank you so much! On the UCR lock down, I got the Prussic and the soft toggle, but what knot do you use for the loop put through the end of the UCR? just an overhand?
I did not make the UCR but suppose it is just a spliced fixed loop.
i have this exact whoopie set up. my strap, after the marlin hitch, makes a tight knot i can barely undo.
My toggle just slides right out. I'm using a polyester tree strap.
This info is priceless. I’m playing major catchup on vids. Wow there are a lot. Can I ask...for weight saving vs simplicity of setup- in your opinion are the Dutch clip, strap, buckle setup your recd intermediate hammocker go to?
Straps are very good for the beginner or intermediate.
Hey again mate. Looking to upgrade from sil to cuben. Recommendations?
Hammockgear.com......ua-cam.com/video/2sL0FIHQD84/v-deo.html
Shugmister... Did you repair Green Bean? I was looking for a patch of some sort and don't see one.
Made a new one over a year ago. The New 2.0
When using a 1/8” constrictor on 7/64” AmSteel, do you need a longer constrictor length due to the increased diameter?
I did not make it so can't say for certain.
Here are some videos on it that may answer your question....ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=making+UCRs
Hey, Shug. Any detailed info on that prussic setup? Who made that?
My buddy Grizz made that UCR and prussic knot to hold it. All the detail is in the video.
www.animatedknots.com/prusik/index.php
Man, for a second there I thought you were sitting in a giant slice of watermelon in the beginning. Never know what to expect from you. Maybe I just need to get an eye test done soon.
That is funny!
recently picked up The Ultimate Hang 2, great book! Shug, love the videos! I have 7ft whoopies including a 4ft strip of webbing, I'm looking to get extensions because I've found out here in the PNW a 13ft diameter trees aren't uncommon... I'm concerned that I have enough webbing to place on the 'back end' of the tree, and if I got a dog bone it and some of the other dyneema would be on the sides of the tree... guess just looking for some ideas not covered in the book and maybe your experience might offer guidance ;-)
-would the 4ft strip of webbing be enough and get a dog bone, or should I get a double looped strip of (8ft) webbing to extend my straps (dog bones would weigh less then half of one strap weight savings are tremendous, but that means nothing if not being responsible for the health of the trees I'm hangin from)
Get 6 foot webbing and carry dog bones too. That is what I would do.
shugemery thanks shug!
I'm checking your Vermont long trail videos, that one's on the list! Have the wonderland trail coming up this summer.
You've been an inspiration. Your videos and knowledge are invaluable. Thank you.
Wonderland trail will be amazing. On my list to do someday.
Thanks for the vid! What kinda suspension you hanging on mostly these days on trail?
I am a whoopie sling, toggle, tree strap user.
shugemery Fast response!! Truly a man of the people!! Thanks man!
Shug, How adjustable are the UCR's and whoopie slings when things are frozen...Including your fingers?
I've never really had a problem with it. Once some ice was on after a frozen rain but I just ran a closed fist over the whoopie sling bury a few times and that friction loosened it. As far as my fingers I try to be vigilant about keeping my hands maintained in Winter. So far so good.
Did you ever see Grizz's program to calculate thd optimum number of hanging sites in an acre? Yes it is il therotical, but fun. Thanks.
When it gets math-y....I fade,
Nice chicken.
Yes. It is very quiet and still.
Hi Shug
What's your ridgeline length. My XLC ridgeline is a little slack on a 15' hang at ~30°. Only at about 16.5' or more and the ridgeline tends to tighten up.
On the green hammock about 103 inches if I recall.
10 1/2 foot hammock.
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whooo whooo wwhhhooopie Slings
I sure like mine.
I’ve run into an interesting problem; I’ve made both UCR’s and Whoopie Slings for hammock suspension. Both with a 10” bury. The Whoopie Slings hold rock solid, the UCR’s slip. I’m not sure why since they work on the same premise.
UCR usually need something to hold one end like I show at 5:58 in the video. Won't hold without something like that.
A whoopie differs as it does not need the knot to hold it.
What cord are you using to make the small prusik on the ucr shug?
I did not make them but looks like spectra. Any cord will do.
shugemery cheers shug :)
Can you use a larks head knot to attach the whoopie sling to the continuous loop of the hammock? rather than use any biners or hooks?
Yes you can. It can be hard to take off but does work.
@@shugemery Thanks a bunch!
I have now made several UCR’s and Whoopie Slings. I have found the UCR’s much more prone to slippage. I’m having a hard time understanding why, since the constrictor portion is the same. I’ve never had to back up a Whoopie with a prusik knot, but I do on the UCR’s.
Any hypothesis?
Not sure. Maybe because it is two separate lines.
shugemery I was thinking that. The line looping back on itself in the Whoopie night add stability. I’ll see if I can find someone who might explain that better. (Typing this in a hammock in my garage suspended by whoopie slings, ironically enough.)
Carry forth....
I believe the woopie sling has less tendency to slip because it is looped back to itself pulling very tightly on the bury whereas the UCR flies on you to milk it tight and even then the outer sheath is not being pulled on by the load like a woopie sling.
Hi Shug, I have a question about the UCR. I have a 3 mm dyneema/amsteel rope. To make the constrictor section, do I need to have a larger diameter piece of rope, or can I just use 3mm for both the constrictor and the main rope? I hope you're doing well in spite of the coronavirus.
I would recommend searching on You Tube how to make them for the best results....ua-cam.com/video/W-_qsRXXLsU/v-deo.html
Ok, thanks for your reply.
Great link. Looks like same diameter is fine. Thanks!
So I bought a very light weight hammock at Walmart, and this hammock didn’t come with biners, it came with a rope system with a toggle you put through to complete a loop. Does anyone know what this is called or where I could get more?
Called a daisy chain suspension......dutchwaregear.com/product/spider-daisy-chain-webbing/
Sat in a huge watermelon.🍉🍉
Laid in it too.
Shug, I watched your video on Dutch’s beetle buckle. The next morning, I went to share it with a friend but couldn’t find it. I feel like I’m going crazy. Did you remove the vid or am I just not finding it? Thanks
I bought the Dutch Buckle system to try out (my buddy Hickery swears by it) and wanted to show others an alternative to using toggles and marlinspike as some or not comfortable with toggle/marlinspike knot.
But I erred and did not thread the dutch buckle the safest way so will re-do the video.
O. Ok. You’re the best shug for responding to all us fans.
Hey Shug, what is that green hammock? Shug-Made or some Cottage Brand?
DIY hammock I made. www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeHammock.php
@@shugemery Thanks Shug
@@shugemery You're the man Shug, I don't care what those ground dwelling tent campers say about you!
Do you sell these already made?
I don't make or sell them but there are links to buy some in description box below this video.
Well just in case it's not known ... I SEE THEM ALL ... sometimes several times! But then I ain't quite right don't cha know! HA! Anutter gud'n Shugrow!
And I thankee for it!
What is the advantage of using the two widths of amsteel in the UCR? Why not do both the same width?
Since I did not make it i can't really address that. I could have been wrong....
best to check some ucr making tutorials.
No worries. I tried some ages ago, and they worked fine, but felt fiddlier to adjust than the whoopie sling, and didn't save me significant weight, so I went back. Was wondering if the different widths made them more easily adjustable or something. I still use them (in lash-it) for adjustable CRL's though. One variation I like is to make the 'short' end a dogbone and use the one end of the dogbone to apply the prusik before doing the bury. I started this when making a set for my daughter, who isn't into knots, and I wanted something that couldn't come untied on her, and decided I like the tidy look it gives.
👍
Do you include climbing rings
I did....ua-cam.com/video/tr3tQMlHf5A/v-deo.html
@@shugemery Thank You
Why not eliminate the constrictor portion of the ucr and just use the prusik? Would be able to shorten system overall length dramatically. Doc Plantz
I would not hang off of just a prusik personally.
Isn't the Dutch clip supposed to be on the side of the tree?
I do cover that several times but it will naturally move a bit toward center.
Can I like this more than once?
No but you can love it.
Thank you Shug. I do love it. I feed the fixed end of my whoopie slings twice through the sewn end hems of my Dutchware 11 footer. I have not had the short tree span problem yet, but I now see the use of the continual loop on the hammock end. 13.26 on this video. Thanks again. I'll try it. If you want to try a set of my homemade Mule Tape tree straps, let me know and I'll send you a pair.
I am all set on mule tape. Have a lot. Never use it as I prefer straps. That white stands out too much for me! But thankee all the same. I appreciate the offer.
Thank you again my friend.
Do you have a video about making hammocks from scratch
Sorry I don't. Search diy camping hammock on You Tube and you'll find a lot.
@@shugemery
Thanks. Do you have a video out on this subject. I'll look
Nope. I made a couple but did not film it. Did not really know what I was doing.
I used these instructions....www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeHammock.php
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@@shugemery
Thank you Soooooo much.
I would love top see a video if you going to make one.
70D ripstop on Ebay is like 5$ a yard.
Thank you for all your help
You get all the credit for me trying this.
when ar you going on your next trip shug?
Nothing planned. Most are last minute when I have time open.
Ok
Campers have their own nomenclature when it comes to knots. Your terminology is different than my rigging slang. I get the gist, but the wording throws me off. Thanks for the wideow says the sweede.
'Tis the hammock speak.
I'm always surprised how many bits of hardware are invented to replace a simple knot. For instance why the whoopie hook? Why not larkshead the whoopie sling to the continuous loop? One less fidgety thing to lose.
You sure could. I do find it hard to undo two amseels larksheaded after a night of a hammock filled with me in it tighning those larkheads. Doable though.
Garland Best The adjustable end of a whoopie needs to glide freely whether you point it to the hammock or the tree. So a larks head with the adjustable end would disable it's adjustability. The adjustable end is also a larger loop than the locked loop on the opposite end in all but the tightest hangs. So it is less than ideal to put a loop so large around a toggle that it can easily slip off of. The cool thing about the whoopie hook is that it replaces the bead that is typically used to prevent the whoopie's adjustable end from sucking the loop in too far. So net component count is not impacted. It also maintains the ability disconnect the potentially wet whoopie slings from the hammock, so that your hammock stays drier.
What is a UCR ?
I found the answer ...
Glad you found it....hard to explain.
Hey Shug! Had an interesting experience on our mom and son campout last night. Head over to my channel, I gave you a little shout-out on my latest video. Finally got our family channel up. We were previously known as Kathy Osthoff lol. Hope you enjoy it. Loving this series so much!
Hogs......we don't have them up here. Bears and wolf though.
shugemery some bears are rumored to be around here but never heard a reliable source. No wolves either, but a ridiculous abundance of coyotes. One of those came pretty close last night, too. We always say, "Falling asleep to the lullabies hogs 'n' 'yotes" 😊
Shug using a pad? What is the world coming to?
My guess is that he didn't have to go looking for it.
An REI Flash. Bought to use on the VT Long Trail as we thought we might use shelters never used it . Comfortable pad. I have a short updated pad video soon.
Knot with the latest news and sport headlines you want to be a good idea to advertise the UK.
This is the android suggested comment.
Hereby proving Shug is more sane than my android tablet.
Those crazy Androids!
This is becoming similar to fly fishing...too complicated. Hammockers have gone too far! I like simple.
Well grab your cane pole and bobber and go fishing ,simply.
It does not have to be complicated.
Most things are these days though.
Will do Suspension Master
Next video needs to be so ridiculously and silly that we all puke from extensive doubled over gut laughing. Make it your silliest yet. Take it to a whole new level of silly. You can blame it on me.
Well.......
I’m enjoying these series. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
Thanks and y'elcome.
Good no matter what the subject matter