Yes to RTV discussion and what you have heard/learned in the TA community. If you do decide to document the process of dropping the pan, it will be great if you could also include your build date. Thanks.
@@walterhall3704 This is good to know. For all the YT videos that I have seen, people have removed the exhaust manifold. Maybe that just gives you more room to work.
Hey man. Been looking at picking up a gr86 and found your content a couple days ago. I must say, your content quality is amazing!! You deserve alot more subscribers, I understand it's hard when your in a niche kind of videos, but man you absolutely kill it in these videos. Great job and keep up the great content. 👍
Fumoto drain is great I don't understand why people doubt it considering that it features some sort of two-factor authentication~ Cars and Tech right there
When pouring from bottles with an offset spout, the spout should be at the top. Yes, this means the spout is further away from where you want the fluid to go. Intuitively, that would seem to make the stream harder to control or aim. It seems wrong, but try it just once and you'll see - 1. The bottle will rotate much further before pouring begins, this makes aiming easier. 2. The air will now enter the bottle without glugging, making it MUCH easier to control. 3. Fluid pours faster, almost like a laminar flow.
@@callumsimonsen1762 its one of those things that you appreciate when the time comes, and youre glad its there. Also as someone who enjoys doing their own oil changes, this is a game changer to me, but may not be as significant to someone else. It all depends on how you view/value things
Definitely an RTV video. You have great insight. I’m still deciding on whether I take the risk. The new Z is just a bit out of what I want to spend for A second “for fun” car. The Supra too. So I’m hoping we get some good info from Subaru and Toyota on a fix. Great video as always.
Regarding your track FRS…Highly recommend checking the oil cooler filter adapter bolt torque at each oil change. The large bolt/stud that the filter spins on can come loose over time and cause a huge mess/potential fire/track incident. Simply retorque with socket at each filter change to be safe.
On a separate note, I'd love to see a walkthrough of how to change wheels only using jacks, no lift and how to deal with TPMS since a lot of people on the forums seem to be having trouble programming a second set of wheels (a winter set for example).
1. Break the lugs 2. Put the car on 4 jack stands, one each corner 3. Swap wheels around 4. Snug tight with wrench all lugs 5. Lower all four corners 6. Torque to spec 7. Drive 25 miles 8. Retorque to spec
I would like to know what Toyota's response to the RTV claims has been and if they have honored any warranties due to engine failures. If your able to find any of that it would be very helpful information.
I don't have a 2nd gen, but I would be curious just to see the process of dropping the oil pan. And it would give you peace of mind in knowing your oil pick up is free and clear!
Where do you put the vehicle lift pads on the gr86? I have used a lift a decent amount but want to know the best place for mine when I get it. Can kind of see in this video but looks like it is on the seam pinch welds
@@nick_ct_9235 Except for winter driving, I always put in 5w30. If you do any track driving, I'd keep 5w30 in it. Winter is really the only reason to go with 2w20.
Yes 5W30 is recommended even with the oil cooler and vents. As others have stated, if you drive the car in the winter months I would switch back to a 0W20 during those months.
I know I'm a lil late but I'm new to the channel and have been taking a lot of inspiration from you guy but I honestly thought the magnet drain plug was Way cooler and smarter for someone who cares about their car I wish that was what you where recommending
im nearing my 1k mark on my gr86, checked the oil from dipstick, its like a little below the middle mark. Should I wait until 3.75k miles or get it at the 1k
@@KevinVo i know that i have the free 2 year maintenance, will toyota do it for free at the 1k mark? or does it have to be on the suggested 3.75k for the free maintenance?
I have seen a guy with the same color scheme you are thinking of, and it looks good! But don't let us tell you what to do. Do what you want man. It is your car, and you are free to make whatever customizations you want to it.
@@THEjak13H agreed and appreciate the support my idea was to do high quality with light sparkle in both the black and white while maintaining the Toyota 2nd color scheme that came with my white and some black bits just better quality and flipped for the opposite side I thought it might look cool
Hey Kevin, Love you videos! Can you please send me a link to the Fumoto valve for the ZD8. If you ever make it to Sydney Australia... let me know and you can come to the track with the NSW 86/BRZ Car Club :) Cheers, Justin
If you make a rtv video can you also discuss and show the oil pickup as far as sides. Like people keep saying that it has five sides to pick up oil from but hard to see in the current videos. I tried looking for the part number and I was just going to order one and make a video of it for all of us to see. I don’t have a twin so don’t really go to the dealer for parts yet.
i watched one of devin niemela's vids where that valve opened out of nowhere while doing a pull... so it either can accidentally open, or it was operator error which i highly doubt...
Why do you highly doubt it could've been user error? These are on thousands of cars worldwide so to make a consensus from one video you've seen where it's impossible to see why or how it failed wouldn't be wise.
@@KevinVo he was driving the car around normally prior to the pull & it wasn't leaking. i still included operator error as an option. it wasnt until the pull that it opened & drained all the oil, to where he thought he had blown the engine cuz it was smoking & oil pressure dropped. other than that i was thinking of getting one.
@@holeshot26 after looking into Devin's video, his valve actually came off the car. So it either backed itself out or it somehow got hit by something that broke it off. If I had to guess it must have backed itself off because if something broke it off he'd be able to see that damage from that on his oil pan. Not sure I'd chalk that up to the fumoto valve failing.
The drain valves save a little time, but they do leave a fair amount of oil behind in the pan. the threads stick up above the bottom of the pan inside so it cant all come out. For the same price as that drain valve you can buy a cheap extractor pump online. Then you suck the oil out of the dipstick tube and change the filter all from the top. No need to even look at the bottom of the car.
You'll never get all of the oil out. The oil left in the engine is negligible. As for the pump method, that's personal preference but I like the convenience of just opening and closing a valve.
@@KevinVo Easy when you have a lift. For most DIYers that have to deal with a jack and jack stands or stacking wood blocks to clear going up ramps, I can be done with the entire oil change before most people would have it up in the air. Added bonus to not even having to change clothes before\after crawling on the gound. To me the drain valve makes sense on cars with bottom mounted filters because you would need to get under there anyways. With a top mounted filter extractor pumps are a god send.
@@boost331 it's all relative. Unless your car is slammed it's not much of a hassle driving onto 2x4s and jacking the front end up. I've done my fair share of driveway oil changes without a lift haha
@@KevinVo Thx. I get the convenience factor but I think it is good to know the balance between convenience and cost on stuff like this. Convenience mods add up. I wouldn't do this mainly because it adds two points of failure and complexity over the standard plug. You could let yourself say it is impossible for this to fail. I think that says a lot. Given you track these cars, are you really that confident that the plastic clip wont fall out with all that vibration and heat (the latter not being a good thing for plastic parts). How about that spring failing in time? I'd rather have some inconvenience and peace of mind that a properly torqued plug is more reliable. That's me though. Sharing another view point. Of all the products you've reviewed this one has my thinking "not a fan". Good quality review though.
@@pstoppani All fair points! I wouldn't say it's impossible. I think I said it's nearly impossible to accidentally open. I actually don't run this on my track car because I'd rather have the magnetic oil drain plug to pick up any metals deposited in the oil plus that cars up in the air often so it's easy to undo the plug, but for a daily driver I love the convenience this adds. That being said, I'm confident that the clip and spring are adequate in making sure the valve doesn't accidentally open. Even if those were to fail, there would have to be something to hit the lever in a very particular way for the valve to open. All in all, this is something that's completely personal preference!
As cars go around the track, the tires wear and deposit rubber "marbles" all around. Tires on the cars in front of you can pick these marbles up and kick them back at you causing the marks you see.
That valve is going to get hit by a rock, fall off, fly around your engine compartment, ruin your "Johnson Rod", and turn your Fly Wheel into a 50 pound frisbee of DEATH! Naw just kidding! Should be fine! 😏
What is the obsession with people these days trying to stand in their engine bays or on top of their cars these cars aren't meant to be stud apon. Kids these days
It's a thumbnail. I carefully placed my feet on areas I knew would not be damaged. Do you also get upset when race car drivers stand on their cars after winning a race? 😂 It's true, I'm a kid at heart.
You clicked on the video and interacted with it so I'll chalk that up as a success! Haha at least I wasn't in the hood or roof or damaging anything 🤷♂️
Yes to RTV discussion and what you have heard/learned in the TA community. If you do decide to document the process of dropping the pan, it will be great if you could also include your build date. Thanks.
I'll see what I can do!!
@@KevinVo Thank you very much for your contribution to the 86 community. Keep up the good work.
Remove bolts, drop pan. It's literally that simple, you don't have to remove the header or anything.
@@walterhall3704 This is good to know. For all the YT videos that I have seen, people have removed the exhaust manifold. Maybe that just gives you more room to work.
If you have a stock header it will need to be removed. You can't access all of the bolts holding the oil pan on without doing so.
Hey man. Been looking at picking up a gr86 and found your content a couple days ago. I must say, your content quality is amazing!! You deserve alot more subscribers, I understand it's hard when your in a niche kind of videos, but man you absolutely kill it in these videos. Great job and keep up the great content. 👍
Yes we want to see RTV content or thoughts !
Going to subscribe bc I just got my gr86!
Keep up the great work KEV!
RTV video coming right up! Thanks for the support!
definitely deserves more followers, highly underrated
Fumoto drain is great I don't understand why people doubt it considering that it features some sort of two-factor authentication~ Cars and Tech right there
Some people like it old school!
When pouring from bottles with an offset spout, the spout should be at the top. Yes, this means the spout is further away from where you want the fluid to go. Intuitively, that would seem to make the stream harder to control or aim. It seems wrong, but try it just once and you'll see - 1. The bottle will rotate much further before pouring begins, this makes aiming easier. 2. The air will now enter the bottle without glugging, making it MUCH easier to control. 3. Fluid pours faster, almost like a laminar flow.
Hoping you make a video about all the bodykit options, prices and the best retailers to order them from. Varis, Tom's, Greddy etc
I'll put it on the list, but this one may need to wait until I get some sort of kit first haha
can you show us how to drop the oil pan on the 2022 and maybe a premium gasket or silicon replacement?
You've got it!
Saw a vid abt it on BTR Justin’s Channel, the redesign actually helps
nice man! Installed the Fumoto drain valve on my GR86 as well. Definitely a must have for the diy'r!!!
Thanks for watching!!!
how is something so niche and an item you barely use a must have lol
@@callumsimonsen1762 its one of those things that you appreciate when the time comes, and youre glad its there. Also as someone who enjoys doing their own oil changes, this is a game changer to me, but may not be as significant to someone else. It all depends on how you view/value things
@@callumsimonsen1762 every 3500 miles is "barely use"?
Definitely an RTV video. You have great insight. I’m still deciding on whether I take the risk. The new Z is just a bit out of what I want to spend for A second “for fun” car. The Supra too. So I’m hoping we get some good info from Subaru and Toyota on a fix. Great video as always.
I've got a video coming up next week!
Regarding your track FRS…Highly recommend checking the oil cooler filter adapter bolt torque at each oil change. The large bolt/stud that the filter spins on can come loose over time and cause a huge mess/potential fire/track incident. Simply retorque with socket at each filter change to be safe.
Thanks for the reminder!
Going from a 07 Corolla to this at the end of the month....am happy to see I can still buy a Fumoto valve for it just like I had with my corolla!
Give us more info regarding the RTV please. Lowkey worried 😅
RTV video coming right up.
@@KevinVo YAAAY! Thanks Kevin! :D
On a separate note, I'd love to see a walkthrough of how to change wheels only using jacks, no lift and how to deal with TPMS since a lot of people on the forums seem to be having trouble programming a second set of wheels (a winter set for example).
1. Break the lugs
2. Put the car on 4 jack stands, one each corner
3. Swap wheels around
4. Snug tight with wrench all lugs
5. Lower all four corners
6. Torque to spec
7. Drive 25 miles
8. Retorque to spec
Don't forget to tighten in a star pattern.
Yes please drop the pan, I have a gr86 with 2,700 miles and I want to know if I should get my oil tested?
Oil testing isn't going to be a good indicator as to whether or not you have RTV stuck in your oil pickup.
So did you get a new GR86 in Blue and Red? Saw some earlier vids where you were working on a blue one.
No, just this red one. The blue one is the FTspeed shop car.
been using Fumoto valves for 10+ years. They are great protection ... against dumb oil changers who strip your oil drain plug...
Hopefully they're not dumb enough to forget to close the valve 😅
Change your own oil..
I'm about to install my fumoto plug in a few weeks when I get around to changing my oil.
Good choice!
I would like to know what Toyota's response to the RTV claims has been and if they have honored any warranties due to engine failures. If your able to find any of that it would be very helpful information.
I'll be posting a video next week on this!
I don't have a 2nd gen, but I would be curious just to see the process of dropping the oil pan. And it would give you peace of mind in knowing your oil pick up is free and clear!
Looks like dropping the oil pan is the consensus!
Why don't someone make a gasket for oil pan to make it easier to check for rtv?
Where do you put the vehicle lift pads on the gr86? I have used a lift a decent amount but want to know the best place for mine when I get it. Can kind of see in this video but looks like it is on the seam pinch welds
It is on the pinch welds. It's indicated by a little section that's sort of notched.
5w30 necessary even with the Verus vents and Perrin oil cooler?
Yes for track duty
@@pstoppani Thanks, what about a car that does like 25/75 track street driving?
@@nick_ct_9235 Except for winter driving, I always put in 5w30. If you do any track driving, I'd keep 5w30 in it. Winter is really the only reason to go with 2w20.
Yes 5W30 is recommended even with the oil cooler and vents. As others have stated, if you drive the car in the winter months I would switch back to a 0W20 during those months.
Yeah rtv video would be great, sending thanks from the uk 🇬🇧
I'll look into it!!
I know I'm a lil late but I'm new to the channel and have been taking a lot of inspiration from you guy but I honestly thought the magnet drain plug was Way cooler and smarter for someone who cares about their car I wish that was what you where recommending
Magnetic drain plugs are great, but if they're catching anything significant you have bigger problems on your hands.
I use a magnet against the oil filter. Im a longtime fan of Fumoto.
Just bought me a gr86 today fucking hyped but real question is will I make more money if I get my cloth seats redone with leather
im nearing my 1k mark on my gr86, checked the oil from dipstick, its like a little below the middle mark. Should I wait until 3.75k miles or get it at the 1k
I'd say just get it done now. Might as well.
@@KevinVo i know that i have the free 2 year maintenance, will toyota do it for free at the 1k mark? or does it have to be on the suggested 3.75k for the free maintenance?
@@daff5507 I'd doubt they'd do it at the 1k mark for you, but I can't speak for them so you could ask.
@@daff5507 did mine at 1.5k. You gotta have it for atleast 3 months tho
@@nolifealex damn, i got mine at 1k right now, but only had it for 20 days. I might have to buy some jack stands i guess.
RTV sealant issue!
Will do!!!
Kevin, why not use the Ultra Platinum?
Any opinions on a two face style white on driver side black on passenger side paint job on my gr86?
I'd suggest a wrap instead of a paint job just in case you want to revert back to stock later on down the road.
I have seen a guy with the same color scheme you are thinking of, and it looks good! But don't let us tell you what to do. Do what you want man. It is your car, and you are free to make whatever customizations you want to it.
@@THEjak13H agreed and appreciate the support my idea was to do high quality with light sparkle in both the black and white while maintaining the Toyota 2nd color scheme that came with my white and some black bits just better quality and flipped for the opposite side I thought it might look cool
Dude I have an Elantra n but that GR86 is absolutely beautiful..
Thanks! The Elantra N is impressive!
Hey Kevin, Love you videos! Can you please send me a link to the Fumoto valve for the ZD8. If you ever make it to Sydney Australia... let me know and you can come to the track with the NSW 86/BRZ Car Club :) Cheers, Justin
If the lever works. Have had two of them and both didnt worked.
Interesting! Haven't seen that happen before!
They need an easy clean out port to remove the RTV plugging up the pick up and they need a pressure gauge.
If you make a rtv video can you also discuss and show the oil pickup as far as sides. Like people keep saying that it has five sides to pick up oil from but hard to see in the current videos. I tried looking for the part number and I was just going to order one and make a video of it for all of us to see. I don’t have a twin so don’t really go to the dealer for parts yet.
A pressure gauge show would be grand.
I love your plate Troi Oi. Very vietnamese 😂
Curious why not use the Toyota filters (I know Subaru engine) but is it cheaper? better quality?
You answered it yourself, its a Subaru engine. You can buy the filters from Toyota parts dept, and it’ll say Subaru on it still
@@kelvinflores1013 I was just wondered if there was any benefit or price difference.
I don't believe Toyota makes a filter for this, they just whitelabel the Subaru filter anyway.
@@MR3DDev there may be a price difference, but it'd be minimal. I would just get whatever is cheaper.
Yes to the RTV issue.
Gotta give the people what they want!
please do an RTV video!!
You've got it!
Does the oil drain valve have magnetic properties to help collect metal particles floating in the oil?
No, that would cause the valve to eventually clog.
i watched one of devin niemela's vids where that valve opened out of nowhere while doing a pull... so it either can accidentally open, or it was operator error which i highly doubt...
Why do you highly doubt it could've been user error? These are on thousands of cars worldwide so to make a consensus from one video you've seen where it's impossible to see why or how it failed wouldn't be wise.
@@KevinVo he was driving the car around normally prior to the pull & it wasn't leaking. i still included operator error as an option. it wasnt until the pull that it opened & drained all the oil, to where he thought he had blown the engine cuz it was smoking & oil pressure dropped. other than that i was thinking of getting one.
@@holeshot26 after looking into Devin's video, his valve actually came off the car. So it either backed itself out or it somehow got hit by something that broke it off. If I had to guess it must have backed itself off because if something broke it off he'd be able to see that damage from that on his oil pan. Not sure I'd chalk that up to the fumoto valve failing.
I like that license plate :D TROI OI
Haha glad you caught that!!
The drain valves save a little time, but they do leave a fair amount of oil behind in the pan. the threads stick up above the bottom of the pan inside so it cant all come out. For the same price as that drain valve you can buy a cheap extractor pump online. Then you suck the oil out of the dipstick tube and change the filter all from the top. No need to even look at the bottom of the car.
You'll never get all of the oil out. The oil left in the engine is negligible. As for the pump method, that's personal preference but I like the convenience of just opening and closing a valve.
@@KevinVo Easy when you have a lift. For most DIYers that have to deal with a jack and jack stands or stacking wood blocks to clear going up ramps, I can be done with the entire oil change before most people would have it up in the air. Added bonus to not even having to change clothes before\after crawling on the gound. To me the drain valve makes sense on cars with bottom mounted filters because you would need to get under there anyways. With a top mounted filter extractor pumps are a god send.
@@boost331 it's all relative. Unless your car is slammed it's not much of a hassle driving onto 2x4s and jacking the front end up. I've done my fair share of driveway oil changes without a lift haha
How many crush gaskets to make up the cost of that drain valve?
I want to say about 20 or so, but it's not just the crush washers it's the convenience factor as well.
@@KevinVo Thx. I get the convenience factor but I think it is good to know the balance between convenience and cost on stuff like this. Convenience mods add up. I wouldn't do this mainly because it adds two points of failure and complexity over the standard plug. You could let yourself say it is impossible for this to fail. I think that says a lot. Given you track these cars, are you really that confident that the plastic clip wont fall out with all that vibration and heat (the latter not being a good thing for plastic parts). How about that spring failing in time? I'd rather have some inconvenience and peace of mind that a properly torqued plug is more reliable. That's me though. Sharing another view point. Of all the products you've reviewed this one has my thinking "not a fan". Good quality review though.
@@pstoppani All fair points! I wouldn't say it's impossible. I think I said it's nearly impossible to accidentally open. I actually don't run this on my track car because I'd rather have the magnetic oil drain plug to pick up any metals deposited in the oil plus that cars up in the air often so it's easy to undo the plug, but for a daily driver I love the convenience this adds. That being said, I'm confident that the clip and spring are adequate in making sure the valve doesn't accidentally open. Even if those were to fail, there would have to be something to hit the lever in a very particular way for the valve to open. All in all, this is something that's completely personal preference!
@@KevinVo glad to hear it’s not on your track car 👍
I've never been to a track day, so how do tire marks get on the hood?
It's rubber from tires being kicked up off the track
As cars go around the track, the tires wear and deposit rubber "marbles" all around. Tires on the cars in front of you can pick these marbles up and kick them back at you causing the marks you see.
@@KevinVo thank you for the description boss
great stuff keep it up
Thanks, will do!!
@@KevinVo I just got my own gr86 about a week ago, your videos have already helped so much thank you!
I vote yes for a RTV video please.
RTV video it is!
When is the give away? Low key need a car my old scion tc needs to go. Lol jk take your time it looks better by every video!!
Haha if only I was baller enough to give it away! Thanks for watching!
That valve is going to get hit by a rock, fall off, fly around your engine compartment, ruin your "Johnson Rod", and turn your Fly Wheel into a 50 pound frisbee of DEATH! Naw just kidding! Should be fine! 😏
I've turned me car into a ticking time bomb!!!! 😭
@@KevinVo I know! Heheh!
if you know you are going to get oil on your hand why not put on a latex glove for that bit?
I'm out of gloves currently 🙃
@@KevinVo what's your address? ill send you a box 😂
Drop those pants! Uh….I mean pans
yes, rtv video
Please engine swap this thing. It needs power
rtv
Coming right up!
What is the obsession with people these days trying to stand in their engine bays or on top of their cars these cars aren't meant to be stud apon. Kids these days
It's a thumbnail. I carefully placed my feet on areas I knew would not be damaged. Do you also get upset when race car drivers stand on their cars after winning a race? 😂 It's true, I'm a kid at heart.
My opinion:
Standing on cars is the ultimate cringe.
You clicked on the video and interacted with it so I'll chalk that up as a success! Haha at least I wasn't in the hood or roof or damaging anything 🤷♂️
@@KevinVo I like the channel but I am not a fan of this practice
Do you have a link?