@@SuperiorNo1 I bought a charger on Amazon for £ 200. use it for my electric car. The manufacturers and dealers make more money on accessories!! Of course once you have a wall box charger at home with male lead. you don't need to faff around. during the petrol station fuel shortage I didn't waste any time in the ques. EV are a time saver once you get used to the charge at home idea. obviously for cars range would have to be 300 miles + for distances longer than 150 + miles return. there are more advantages than disadvantages especially if its second family driver!! for petrol two wheeler I would want comfort of 300-400 cc for occasional dual carriage runs. Ride Safe..
Great bike. Just purchased mine a week ago. Fully loaded. I wish this had a it more range. 100 mile range would be the sweet spot. They designed this as a commuter. Yes & no. Why do you need all these modes for around town. It clearly was designed for more than a commuter. I think because of the limited range they called it a commuter. The performance is really spectacular. The regenerative breaking makes this bike even safer and will cut down on break wear greatly.
Looks like the kind of crap I get at junk yards to weld a pipe on for a sprinkler. Them spares make it super easy to roll the sprinklers to another spot in the field but looks like shite on this
Easily the most in depth review I have seen for this scooter. Saw one in the gym carpark and never even knew it was a thing being a biker we are quite limited by electric selection
$15,000 in Canada and the 400 GT Gas version is $9,000 which gives you $6,000 for gas which is 65 MPG gets you around 1818 gallons of fuel for around 118,181 miles of range enough said !!!!
Ah cool, another person who thinks the environment they live in and air they breathe is worth 0 dollars. Hey outer space is a free environment to live in, for 30 seconds or so.
Now do trips for oil changes, the hassle of stopping at gas stations regularly, spark plug maintenance and all the other crap that comes with normal engines…. We don’t buy a scooter like this to save gas money, my man.
Ordered one! Test rode it and it blew me away. I actually have an i3 too and it rides like the i3. Regen brakes are great. Tons of torque, takes off like a rocket. Light and nimble. perfect commuter, but also a fun weekend bike for the city. I wont be taking it on long trips though, not till infrastructure improves.
Whoever designed the storage space so that it can be opened to grab a hobnob at the lights is a genius! Appreciate this intro was posted 9 months ago but I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised by the price - I was expecting +/- 20grand.
Very impressed,actually more than that I'm sold. Expensive but look at how well it is designed. So practical and user friendly. I'd like to see a video of one optioned up with the comfort seat, a top box - I don't need a pillion seat. Screen for rain and wind protection. Hand covers,protection bars around grips. Slot wheel mags to let sidewinds through motorways, rural roads.
I'm usually into more traditional designs with bikes, like modern classics etc. But this is actually pretty cool! The only bit I'm not a fan of is the orange visor, kinda looks like something Id have made in D&T back in my school days!
Pretty nice. While I'm a guy who thinks a Bonneville 1200 Speed Twin or Thruxton is close to perfection, I still admire where this bike is taking us as e-bikes gain in popularity.
Recently had the chance to ride one from Blackfoot Motosports in Calgary AB, I find the ride very comfortable, there is definitely power to spare when you are on the highway, as you mentioned that TFT display is awesome...the best part about this is the Fun Factor...it is off the chart!
Pretty smart machine. I'd like to see an option to colour up the wheels, and maybe add anchor points to add passenger backrest or luggage mounting. Very Akira, which I like a lot.
The NIU is about the best there is today, competing with Yadea, but I was unimpressed by both on suspension and perceived quality of plastics, fittings and general build and the range was borderline. The feeling was that you bought a battery and the scooter was an afterthought. Spent the money on a petrol alternative. Not to mention that both had electrical/digital gremlins. You are correct, but it’s like comparing the Renault Zoe perhaps to the Tesla 3. They get you from A to B… but this CE04 is intriguing. Good review! Thanks!
I like the look of this even if many think it's like an ironing board. Reverse! Superbly equipped. But far too many features for an 80 mile scooter - a Super Soco or Niu will do that job at a fraction of the price. Good on BMW for making this. And when that battery density goes up - nice it's sharing the iX/i4 pack so good chance of that - it'll be a lot more compelling.
I'll keep my C-evolution but you can't really compare that to a super soco or a Niu : 42hp / 120km/h top speed. Overkill (and if anything like the C-evo frankly too heavy) if you only cruise downtown but a must if you have a more mixed commute highway/road and then downtown. And also knowing BMW the chassis is certainly a must, my C-evo feels like it"s on a rail.
Motorbikes like this should have two dials to adjust the Throttle response and Regen on the go. It has been said that it is most economical not to regenerate every time you let go of the gas. You should coast and only regen when needed. What I got from this is you should always ride the Rain mode to limit acceleration and regen and then change to eco when you NEED to stop. I guess it works like that ok but you need to know what every mode does.
Serious question - how on earth do you secure this thing? No way of getting a chain through those solid wheels, the shrouds around the brakes mean no disc locks, and no way of getting a lock through the rear sprocket. You could get a longer chain through the rear shock, but that looks like it can be unbolted in no time. A £10k+ scooter with just the stock immobiliser would be gone in seconds in a city like London. It's like they've made a futuristic city scooter for a futuristic city that doesn't exist.
@@kalel33 You'd think technology would be able to render it immobile, unusable and worthless to thieves. But I read a story about LA car gang who converted a truck into a faraday cage. No signals out. No signals in. For stealing high end cars with trackers.
I like it - looks very cool and would be great for my work commute of around 5 miles a day. The price is way too salty though and puts it way out of reach for most of us. In comparison - I recently bought a Honda Forza 300 with less than 500 miles on it for £4800, which makes the BMW look very expensive. Also, how could it be chained up? I didn’t seem very security friendly. Andy 🏴
Looks great. 30 years ago when I had a 60 min commute on my Beemer each day this might have converted me to a scooter rider. Go electric, go Sci-Fi styling!
Very good design and lot of good functions. I like the reverse on it, my current electric bike can be very cumbersome, when trying to maneuver out of tight spots.
Yeah the headlight is the only thing I don’t love. It’s not quite as square and blocky as the rest of the bike. But I guess the front end needs to be at least a bit aerodynamic…
Definitely interesting. I think that if it had larger wheels would make it more practical. I don't understand why, with that price, all the safety options are not included in the price.
I really like the design. I want to see a GT version with maybe midi sized wheels for two up longer distances. Or maybe the similar design language with a crossover looking bike...
I like this bike but it is a specific use model. That is longer range commuting. For short commuting you’d go for a more compact scooter and for recreation a Zero or Alrendo.
As much as I like this concept for scooters and for city commuting , I hope that motorcycles never go electric. There is just something so special about an engine, like the noises and the clutch and the gears the list goes on.
Nah. The noise is just moronic. I heard and saw a bunch of sport bikes yesterday at 21:30 passing a popular lake / park /castle area. All with sports exhaust, popping on overrun, they drove responsible and were attempting to pass by in reasonable anonymity. I think everyone hated it. Even I was on the fence. 😉
I actually like the look of this but the thing I don't like about it is the storage compartment. That space could have been utilised for an extra optional battery pack to give it more range. Also it takes a long time to charge, set the scene, pouring down with rain or it just started snowing, you got 40 mile ride to get home, but the battery is way too low to get you there, you have to sit and wait 2 or more hours just to get home, and what if you don't have a charger at home, or can't charge at home, your bike will be flat the next day until you take it to the nearest charger and wait for it to charge yet another 2 to 4 or more hours. But with the extra space and with an optional battery you could leave that on charge in your house take it out when you need it, won't need to go looking for a street charger, and so on. So it has potential but it still does not address the issue of charge time and charge issues, and what's the point of having a bike that goes reasonably fast if it is only for the city, most cities now in the UK for example are 20 mph. And you won't need to wait in the rain or snow while it charges, unlike this.
If the seat was design better you'll have more cargo space, and fit easily a helmet, next model of this scooter will be a nice thing to see in the future
You'd think that would have an in-wheel motor at this point already. Looks really nice and futuristic with some retro flare with the seat though. Range is perfectly fine too with fast-charging. I'd love to see Xiaomi make a similar one at half the price :D
As a very expensive bike for use in cities, are there enough security features to stop it getting nicked? Looks impossible to put any locks or chains on it
There is a visible gap between the seat and the storage compartment. I don't understand why did they waste that space? Storage could have been larger. A full size large helmet and 2 gloves would fit easily.
First thing I did was check charging in my area, Northeast Ct, honestly I could travel the state so that’s enough for me. Have to stop for coffee but that’s not an issue and they keep adding more charging stations so that’s ok
One thing I found out I didn’t like is that crazy pill bottle colored screen is not available on us models. Great, thanks, I’m sure it’s some kind of stupid price for that just because I actually like the weirdness of it. Maybe I can use a spray on stained glass window color on tue back if the clear one.
Think the design team lost interest from the passenger seat backwards. No passenger grab handle either....that will be fun with a sharp application of the brakes. Should be £6000 tops.
Love the design but the problem is still the range. For the costs, you're still better off getting other internal combustion options such as the Honda ADV (depending on where you live). It's a valiant 1st effort but if the goal is to get more riders on 2 wheels and to look to a green future, the price needs to come down and range needs to go up.
The Niu range is the same but fraction of the price. Its home charging though hasn't got the outlet charger like this but i Live inner city and its hard to find chargers anyway.
they designed that bike completely wrong, electric motors can sit adjacent to the wheels and that will save additional 12in on wheel base (but giving the torque Characteristics = wheelie) but software can reduce that. and did they forget how scooters preferred hav storage within the seat and above rear taillights that acts like rear seat rest. and then top speed should be 120mph. the scariest part of a scooter is everyone trying to run you off the road.
This is great if you happen to have a tiny garage…a lot of houses in LA have small garages so that’s pretty cool…80 miles to the charge with a 4 hour charge time….eh is disappointing…for most city dwellers that would be work commute and then come home…charge and you really have to build any curricular activities around it charging…this is greatest if you live & work in a 15-20 minute commute…
Great Review, thank you. But, can you comment on side stand vs center stand and also what if you want to cable/chain it to a post or just chain it? Thank you.
Not one place for me to charge this thing up. Not in my apartment or at work. And I have never seen one charging station in my area of metro Detroit. But looks nice and I'm sure if someone has a garage that would be a fun option.
It's not bad, but again it's the RRP that's the problem. Because of that, it's not eligible for the UK government low-emission plug-in grant, it has to be below 10k, including delivery. The under seat storage could've been bigger, there's a large gap between the seat and the storage area, so why not use it; a styling exercise maybe? It's a city bike, so I hope you can attach a rear rack. And, I'd definitely put a larger screen on it - in a different colour!
I quite like the looks but it seems very long - possibly longer than the width of a parking bay? Wouldn’t that be a problem in a busy city such as London which has a premium on motorcycle bays? Parking at an angle wouldn’t make you too popular
Great review! I am selling all of my BMW motorcycles and thinking of just buying this scooter for getting around town and over to the gym. Where can I see the total package of options for the bike?
Would buy one, if BMW did put a roof on it, like the BMW C1-200 executive I had. That low point of gravity is a plus. The C1-200 has a way to high point of gravity.
Design is unique and mostly decent but I think BMW designers were almost finished with only rear wheel and went out to celebrate and all hungover the next day just phoned in what looks like a Toyota Tercel steel wheel spare tire. Its conspicuous in its unfinished looking state.
I love it, but it’s a niche market and BMW have gambled with that price tag, I think. Niche, because I think it is perhaps just for commuting. A luggage rack would have been way better, as well as the heated grips and bigger screen.
Nice review, thanks. I would get one just for the design, it really is something special. I even like the rear wheel. But not at that price. Maybe when they come down to sensible used levels.
And the highest prices you ever seen.. only the rich will afford them.. I thought they would go down as time goes by.. but instead they just added more capability and raised the prices.. This bike cost over 12000$ and it is really just a replacement for cheap Chinese in city scooters you can buy for about 1500$... A real electric motorcycle like Harley has cost over 30 grand
@@zinta1 agreed. New tech takes time to ramp in production and sheer numbers which reduces price eventually. Sadly its the poor who are going to suffer the most with the ongoing world fuel crisis. Nickel and other prime battery elements are becoming scarce made worse due to the Russia V Ukraine conflict. Dont expect price reductions for a while
@@HabitualFixation 75% of all the electric bike companies that ever existed have failed and are gone.. some had great bikes with really good engineering...but they died.. because as you say... resources to make the batteries.. and PRICE..and some people just wont buy them.. you can expect more failures in the near future... I would expect the electric car and bike industry to take a dive
What´s smart about it? Only a person who never rode a motorbike could say that. The passenger seat is suicide, the helmet storage is just stupid and also small, the looks are shit, the yellow accent colors look like bug stains. It looks like an ugly fish and half-way to the rear the design just changes completely and it turns into a pill shaped clown ride.
Full motovlog here: ua-cam.com/video/RFG3aygpS4s/v-deo.html
This is why i Hate Electric vehicles £850 for a Fucking charger!! Scam!! I Bought a Brand New 125cc for that!! 😈
When will it be available in the states?
Second, how do you secure it? Does it have anti theft features?
@@SuperiorNo1 I bought a charger on Amazon for £ 200. use it for my electric car. The manufacturers and dealers make more money on accessories!! Of course once you have a wall box charger at home with male lead. you don't need to faff around. during the petrol station fuel shortage I didn't waste any time in the ques. EV are a time saver once you get used to the charge at home idea. obviously for cars range would have to be 300 miles + for distances longer than 150 + miles return. there are more advantages than disadvantages especially if its second family driver!! for petrol two wheeler I would want comfort of 300-400 cc for occasional dual carriage runs. Ride Safe..
@@SuperiorNo1 Mine came with the upgraded charger and comfort package. I just wish it had 100 mile range.
Great bike. Just purchased mine a week ago. Fully loaded. I wish this had a it more range. 100 mile range would be the sweet spot. They designed this as a commuter. Yes & no. Why do you need all these modes for around town. It clearly was designed for more than a commuter. I think because of the limited range they called it a commuter. The performance is really spectacular. The regenerative breaking makes this bike even safer and will cut down on break wear greatly.
It looks very cool, but it seems the engineers went out to lunch and forgot to design a rear wheel. It looks like the spare tire from my old 97 Civic.
Haha I won’t be able to unsee that now… it looks better with the decal pack 🤷♂️
Looks like the kind of crap I get at junk yards to weld a pipe on for a sprinkler. Them spares make it super easy to roll the sprinklers to another spot in the field but looks like shite on this
"Where's the rear wheel? "
Designer : "rear what?"
Agreed; very strange decision
Yes it looks well designed from the front u til you get as far as the pillion, thereafter the job must have been to a 7 year old, high on Haribo !
Easily the most in depth review I have seen for this scooter. Saw one in the gym carpark and never even knew it was a thing being a biker we are quite limited by electric selection
"911 help! Someone stole my purse!"
"What did the thief look like?"
"TRON"
$15,000 in Canada and the 400 GT Gas version is $9,000 which gives you $6,000 for gas which is 65 MPG gets you around 1818 gallons of fuel for around 118,181 miles of range enough said !!!!
What's the maintenance on the gas version?
Gas prices are sky rocketing, absolutely crazy now. So that math will change.
Don't forget to check for Provincial rebates, in Quebec we get a 2,000$ rebate on all electric motorcycles
Ah cool, another person who thinks the environment they live in and air they breathe is worth 0 dollars. Hey outer space is a free environment to live in, for 30 seconds or so.
Now do trips for oil changes, the hassle of stopping at gas stations regularly, spark plug maintenance and all the other crap that comes with normal engines…. We don’t buy a scooter like this to save gas money, my man.
Ordered one! Test rode it and it blew me away. I actually have an i3 too and it rides like the i3. Regen brakes are great. Tons of torque, takes off like a rocket. Light and nimble. perfect commuter, but also a fun weekend bike for the city. I wont be taking it on long trips though, not till infrastructure improves.
It’s made for commuters - you charge it at home, so infrastructure isn’t an issue.
Whoever designed the storage space so that it can be opened to grab a hobnob at the lights is a genius! Appreciate this intro was posted 9 months ago but I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised by the price - I was expecting +/- 20grand.
Very impressed,actually more than that I'm sold. Expensive but look at how well it is designed. So practical and user friendly. I'd like to see a video of one optioned up with the comfort seat, a top box - I don't need a pillion seat. Screen for rain and wind protection. Hand covers,protection bars around grips. Slot wheel mags to let sidewinds through motorways, rural roads.
I just love the design - it looks just like it should
Every aspect of it screams future and I love BMW for choosing the future path with this one
Pffft hahaha. It looks shit.
@@THXn11 just like ur face
I like the core concept of the design but would like to see these elements in sport bikes and cruisers.
i like it. looks kinda honda big ruckus i missed out on buying in 2005.
I'm usually into more traditional designs with bikes, like modern classics etc. But this is actually pretty cool! The only bit I'm not a fan of is the orange visor, kinda looks like something Id have made in D&T back in my school days!
You can order a normal visor as well.
To protect the display....
Lo ritirerò questo Lunedì , sei stato il migliore nel recensire questo Stupendo Scooter !!! Grazie !!
Pretty nice. While I'm a guy who thinks a Bonneville 1200 Speed Twin or Thruxton is close to perfection, I still admire where this bike is taking us as e-bikes gain in popularity.
Recently had the chance to ride one from Blackfoot Motosports in Calgary AB, I find the ride very comfortable, there is definitely power to spare when you are on the highway, as you mentioned that TFT display is awesome...the best part about this is the Fun Factor...it is off the chart!
Pretty smart machine. I'd like to see an option to colour up the wheels, and maybe add anchor points to add passenger backrest or luggage mounting. Very Akira, which I like a lot.
I got a Niu Uqi Pro
45km/h E-moped. 1kwh, but about 30-35km range. Weighs 58kg
Honestly enough for short city travels
The NIU is about the best there is today, competing with Yadea, but I was unimpressed by both on suspension and perceived quality of plastics, fittings and general build and the range was borderline. The feeling was that you bought a battery and the scooter was an afterthought. Spent the money on a petrol alternative. Not to mention that both had electrical/digital gremlins. You are correct, but it’s like comparing the Renault Zoe perhaps to the Tesla 3. They get you from A to B… but this CE04 is intriguing. Good review! Thanks!
just got mine today! its amazing
1 year update please - would you buy again?
I like the look of this even if many think it's like an ironing board. Reverse! Superbly equipped. But far too many features for an 80 mile scooter - a Super Soco or Niu will do that job at a fraction of the price. Good on BMW for making this. And when that battery density goes up - nice it's sharing the iX/i4 pack so good chance of that - it'll be a lot more compelling.
More features!
I'll keep my C-evolution but you can't really compare that to a super soco or a Niu : 42hp / 120km/h top speed. Overkill (and if anything like the C-evo frankly too heavy) if you only cruise downtown but a must if you have a more mixed commute highway/road and then downtown.
And also knowing BMW the chassis is certainly a must, my C-evo feels like it"s on a rail.
Motorbikes like this should have two dials to adjust the Throttle response and Regen on the go. It has been said that it is most economical not to regenerate every time you let go of the gas. You should coast and only regen when needed. What I got from this is you should always ride the Rain mode to limit acceleration and regen and then change to eco when you NEED to stop. I guess it works like that ok but you need to know what every mode does.
Serious question - how on earth do you secure this thing? No way of getting a chain through those solid wheels, the shrouds around the brakes mean no disc locks, and no way of getting a lock through the rear sprocket. You could get a longer chain through the rear shock, but that looks like it can be unbolted in no time. A £10k+ scooter with just the stock immobiliser would be gone in seconds in a city like London. It's like they've made a futuristic city scooter for a futuristic city that doesn't exist.
It’s not marketed to people who will buy it practically, keep that in mind.
That's a very good point. Ever since the invention of the battery powered angle grinder nothing has been safe.
I'm thinking the wheels are locked when parked and it's 500lbs so it should be easy to drag.
@@kalel33 You'd think technology would be able to render it immobile, unusable and worthless to thieves. But I read a story about LA car gang who converted a truck into a faraday cage. No signals out. No signals in. For stealing high end cars with trackers.
Purchased the exact same scooter and color back in July of 2022. It’s absolutely amazing to ride. No regrets whatsoever 👍 15:39
Feb 2022:Healthy 70 y/o Torontonian. Great show, thanks for all the effort and details. I'm off to buy a BMW CE 04!
I like it - looks very cool and would be great for my work commute of around 5 miles a day. The price is way too salty though and puts it way out of reach for most of us. In comparison - I recently bought a Honda Forza 300 with less than 500 miles on it for £4800, which makes the BMW look very expensive. Also, how could it be chained up? I didn’t seem very security friendly.
Andy 🏴
Why not an ebike?
@@mickleblade I was thinking the same thing? For a short commute like that a Ebike might even be faster because you can take shortcuts often.
5 miles a day asks for a bike
@@mickleblade A top of the line e-bike costs more!!
I like it but wonder how it will do in winter... prob suffer range wise for sure but what abt starting in cold climates (like Chicago cold winters)
Probably the most interesting modern designed bike of any kind on the market today, bravo to BMW!
A styling exercise. BMW will be lucky to sell a dozen in the UK. One for wealthy posers only.
Thanks for this review. Looks like a great bike. I saw an article that said they would be around $12,000 in the U.S.
The overheating problem is real! I was navigating in Colombia and my phone went into a safe mode if I kept it in the sun for not long at all.
Very excited for this bike. Thanks for the great review! I am hoping to get mine end of March. Will let you know.
Looks great. 30 years ago when I had a 60 min commute on my Beemer each day this might have converted me to a scooter rider. Go electric, go Sci-Fi styling!
Knowing BMW replacement prices for car parts this thing will be eye-watering let alone deflating for Mr Av 2Wheeler!!!
Very good design and lot of good functions. I like the reverse on it, my current electric bike can be very cumbersome, when trying to maneuver out of tight spots.
Thanks Bob for a very good comprehensive look at the BMW, look forward to reviewing this in Aus conditions (heat). Cheers.
If i lived in a city I would definitly want one. And i love the futuristic look
I don’t even mind the price but it could do with a bit of a rack behind the seat. Could always bend one up and send it to the powder coater.
right, its got a proper futuristic design styling! Props!
Pretty fun little platform. I like the design except the headlight. Will be interesting to see what modders come up with. It's very expensive though.
Yeah the headlight is the only thing I don’t love. It’s not quite as square and blocky as the rest of the bike. But I guess the front end needs to be at least a bit aerodynamic…
They should have a large storage box above the rear fender, always a great review
There’s one as an accessory 👍
Definitely interesting. I think that if it had larger wheels would make it more practical. I don't understand why, with that price, all the safety options are not included in the price.
It’s a scooter? Small wheels are a thing.
@@martyn_g have you heard of the Aprilia Scarabeo? Guzzi Galletto?
Stereo sound of this video is amazing.
I really like the design. I want to see a GT version with maybe midi sized wheels for two up longer distances. Or maybe the similar design language with a crossover looking bike...
Wow, I really like it. Good job BMW. I might pick one up in the future.
Looks pretty cool - tech pack is impressive.
Not seen this channel before. Great review pal. Nice one
Thanks mate - much appreciated 👍
Looks a bit like a film prop. Total recall comes to mind. I’m not sure this is the best way to design the future. Will it be great or will it be camp?
I like this bike but it is a specific use model. That is longer range commuting. For short commuting you’d go for a more compact scooter and for recreation a Zero or Alrendo.
Looks sooo much better than in white.
Needs back rest & some sort of rear box - has the length for it !
As much as I like this concept for scooters and for city commuting , I hope that motorcycles never go electric. There is just something so special about an engine, like the noises and the clutch and the gears the list goes on.
Whilst I agree with you, you have to be aware of the lunatic legislation that is already in place.
@@maxflight777 I know :( unfortunately I dont think electrification of motorbikes can be stopped but one can only hope ;D
Where have you been, several companies are already jumping ship. Big leader … Harley.
Nah. The noise is just moronic. I heard and saw a bunch of sport bikes yesterday at 21:30 passing a popular lake / park /castle area. All with sports exhaust, popping on overrun, they drove responsible and were attempting to pass by in reasonable anonymity. I think everyone hated it. Even I was on the fence. 😉
I actually like the look of this but the thing I don't like about it is the storage compartment.
That space could have been utilised for an extra optional battery pack to give it more range.
Also it takes a long time to charge, set the scene, pouring down with rain or it just started snowing, you got 40 mile ride to get home, but the battery is way too low to get you there, you have to sit and wait 2 or more hours just to get home, and what if you don't have a charger at home, or can't charge at home, your bike will be flat the next day until you take it to the nearest charger and wait for it to charge yet another 2 to 4 or more hours.
But with the extra space and with an optional battery you could leave that on charge in your house take it out when you need it, won't need to go looking for a street charger, and so on.
So it has potential but it still does not address the issue of charge time and charge issues, and what's the point of having a bike that goes reasonably fast if it is only for the city, most cities now in the UK for example are 20 mph.
And you won't need to wait in the rain or snow while it charges, unlike this.
If the seat was design better you'll have more cargo space, and fit easily a helmet, next model of this scooter will be a nice thing to see in the future
Exactly my thoughts. This was a catastrophe design-wise, but the next model will be better, maybe.
Is there a box to put on the back? It really needs more storage for San Francisco. We have to carry jackets and sweaters, rain gear...donuts.
You'd think that would have an in-wheel motor at this point already. Looks really nice and futuristic with some retro flare with the seat though. Range is perfectly fine too with fast-charging. I'd love to see Xiaomi make a similar one at half the price :D
ola electric scooter from india has already have these features at 1/4 th price.
Alright, normally scooters look lame, but this looks proper techno and I love it.
As a very expensive bike for use in cities, are there enough security features to stop it getting nicked? Looks impossible to put any locks or chains on it
That is a good point , even the brake discs are covered maybe you can put a U lock around the belt drive lol.
Keyless & pretty hefty..... Plus track able anyone using it at public charger or turns it on assuming its got sim connected
It comes with a great topbox... for a fair amount of cash. I fancy one of these.
There is a visible gap between the seat and the storage compartment. I don't understand why did they waste that space? Storage could have been larger. A full size large helmet and 2 gloves would fit easily.
That red Akira bike is becoming each year more and more possible
Crazy expensive for only 2 persons. It is not a car !!! Excelent review. Great work!
I think it's reeeeally cool. The range is the only thing that would keep me away from it. Otherwise, love it.
First thing I did was check charging in my area, Northeast Ct, honestly I could travel the state so that’s enough for me. Have to stop for coffee but that’s not an issue and they keep adding more charging stations so that’s ok
One thing I found out I didn’t like is that crazy pill bottle colored screen is not available on us models. Great, thanks, I’m sure it’s some kind of stupid price for that just because I actually like the weirdness of it. Maybe I can use a spray on stained glass window color on tue back if the clear one.
Been waiting for this review. Excellent design and features. If only the price was a bit better. But then again people pay as much for a T-max
the only best looking ev in the world.. dont why more company's make more bikes like this.... futuristic. feels like we did time travel.. :)
Found it on amazon for 83 quid and reviews genuinely shows that it's real from multiple buyers idk if it's a scam or not
Think the design team lost interest from the passenger seat backwards. No passenger grab handle either....that will be fun with a sharp application of the brakes. Should be £6000 tops.
I love everything about this bike I would love to own one I love the design and I love the technologies
Love that futuristic look this would work out fine for me. Very cool
The future personified. Love it.
I like it, but I need to know if there is support for a top box before I can even consider it.
Love the design but the problem is still the range. For the costs, you're still better off getting other internal combustion options such as the Honda ADV (depending on where you live). It's a valiant 1st effort but if the goal is to get more riders on 2 wheels and to look to a green future, the price needs to come down and range needs to go up.
The Niu range is the same but fraction of the price. Its home charging though hasn't got the outlet charger like this but i Live inner city and its hard to find chargers anyway.
I'm getting one n
Disagree. It’s a commuter, so range is fine.
Looks awesome. Heavy though! I wonder how it compares to the Fonz NKD which has similar cyberpunk styling
Very cool - I love it! Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.
My pleasure! Cheers mate 🍻
E-brake with side stand is brilliant
Seems like an obvious features that more bikes should have!
@@motobob They started it on the C600/C650s 10 years ago.
@@redwolfexr thanks for the info mate. Wonder why only on scooters and not on motos?
@@motobob Likely because they are all automatics. Don't really need a brake oin a manual tranny.
Love it...would buy one today...except...80 miles, that's still not enough range for me to be comfortable.
they designed that bike completely wrong, electric motors can sit adjacent to the wheels and that will save additional 12in on wheel base (but giving the torque Characteristics = wheelie) but software can reduce that. and did they forget how scooters preferred hav storage within the seat and above rear taillights that acts like rear seat rest. and then top speed should be 120mph. the scariest part of a scooter is everyone trying to run you off the road.
I hate the look of the rear wheel. Are there options to replace the stock rear wheel?
Hey nice observations , please suggest if we can modify the CE 04 with a Roof like structure to make it look like micro car ?
Are you sure that’s not a Dyson? I did notice how clean the roads are too 🤔
Very cool! I wonder if it gains traction in north america or not!
Hi! Nice review! What brabd/model are those boys at @0:35s ?
what a great review. so on point, so clear. very good
Thankyou Abrian - I appreciate the kind words
This is great if you happen to have a tiny garage…a lot of houses in LA have small garages so that’s pretty cool…80 miles to the charge with a 4 hour charge time….eh is disappointing…for most city dwellers that would be work commute and then come home…charge and you really have to build any curricular activities around it charging…this is greatest if you live & work in a 15-20 minute commute…
with the quick charger option the usual charge would be between 30 and 45 minutes.
Looks great just waiting for an electric bobber style bike because I’m to short for the sport bike style
Really love this bike, I can see a SUITable use for it for sure
Great Review, thank you. But, can you comment on side stand vs center stand and also what if you want to cable/chain it to a post or just chain it? Thank you.
Makes me appreciate my 2006 Burgman even more. Great review though.
Not one place for me to charge this thing up. Not in my apartment or at work. And I have never seen one charging station in my area of metro Detroit. But looks nice and I'm sure if someone has a garage that would be a fun option.
Hi Bob, what about security? Which locks ? Or does it not need one/
What is the battery warranty as originally it was 25,000 miles BUT seems to have changed to 5 years
looking online 'build" where's the straight seat option? the bucket seat deal cramped legs a no go for me.
Great, informative video! Full disclosure, I crept on your video to prepare for my own review video of the CE 04!
It's not bad, but again it's the RRP that's the problem. Because of that, it's not eligible for the UK government low-emission plug-in grant, it has to be below 10k, including delivery. The under seat storage could've been bigger, there's a large gap between the seat and the storage area, so why not use it; a styling exercise maybe? It's a city bike, so I hope you can attach a rear rack. And, I'd definitely put a larger screen on it - in a different colour!
I quite like the looks but it seems very long - possibly longer than the width of a parking bay? Wouldn’t that be a problem in a busy city such as London which has a premium on motorcycle bays? Parking at an angle wouldn’t make you too popular
Great review! I am selling all of my BMW motorcycles and thinking of just buying this scooter for getting around town and over to the gym. Where can I see the total package of options for the bike?
Loves everything except for the 130km range that's a bit too short, around 200km per charge would be more appropriate.
03:08 where did you get your backpack from?
That's a Thule Covert camera bag
Would buy one, if BMW did put a roof on it, like the BMW C1-200 executive I had. That low point of gravity is a plus. The C1-200 has a way to high point of gravity.
Looks cool and I like the concept but with a max of 80 miles it's a second bike and at that price it is about 2x as much as I'd spend.
Design is unique and mostly decent but I think BMW designers were almost finished with only rear wheel and went out to celebrate and all hungover the next day just phoned in what looks like a Toyota Tercel steel wheel spare tire. Its conspicuous in its unfinished looking state.
I love it, but it’s a niche market and BMW have gambled with that price tag, I think. Niche, because I think it is perhaps just for commuting. A luggage rack would have been way better, as well as the heated grips and bigger screen.
Nice review, thanks. I would get one just for the design, it really is something special. I even like the rear wheel. But not at that price. Maybe when they come down to sensible used levels.
Great review Bob
Thanks John!
You gotta love how electric vehicles are bringing smart design to the market with quirky yet functional ideas
And the highest prices you ever seen.. only the rich will afford them.. I thought they would go down as time goes by.. but instead they just added more capability and raised the prices.. This bike cost over 12000$ and it is really just a replacement for cheap Chinese in city scooters you can buy for about 1500$... A real electric motorcycle like Harley has cost over 30 grand
@@zinta1 agreed. New tech takes time to ramp in production and sheer numbers which reduces price eventually. Sadly its the poor who are going to suffer the most with the ongoing world fuel crisis. Nickel and other prime battery elements are becoming scarce made worse due to the Russia V Ukraine conflict. Dont expect price reductions for a while
@@HabitualFixation 75% of all the electric bike companies that ever existed have failed and are gone.. some had great bikes with really good engineering...but they died.. because as you say... resources to make the batteries.. and PRICE..and some people just wont buy them.. you can expect more failures in the near future... I would expect the electric car and bike industry to take a dive
What´s smart about it? Only a person who never rode a motorbike could say that. The passenger seat is suicide, the helmet storage is just stupid and also small, the looks are shit, the yellow accent colors look like bug stains. It looks like an ugly fish and half-way to the rear the design just changes completely and it turns into a pill shaped clown ride.
@@christianeriksson4733 so I’m guessing you don’t like it? Lmao