@@SuperiorNo1 I bought a charger on Amazon for £ 200. use it for my electric car. The manufacturers and dealers make more money on accessories!! Of course once you have a wall box charger at home with male lead. you don't need to faff around. during the petrol station fuel shortage I didn't waste any time in the ques. EV are a time saver once you get used to the charge at home idea. obviously for cars range would have to be 300 miles + for distances longer than 150 + miles return. there are more advantages than disadvantages especially if its second family driver!! for petrol two wheeler I would want comfort of 300-400 cc for occasional dual carriage runs. Ride Safe..
Great bike. Just purchased mine a week ago. Fully loaded. I wish this had a it more range. 100 mile range would be the sweet spot. They designed this as a commuter. Yes & no. Why do you need all these modes for around town. It clearly was designed for more than a commuter. I think because of the limited range they called it a commuter. The performance is really spectacular. The regenerative breaking makes this bike even safer and will cut down on break wear greatly.
Looks like the kind of crap I get at junk yards to weld a pipe on for a sprinkler. Them spares make it super easy to roll the sprinklers to another spot in the field but looks like shite on this
Very impressed,actually more than that I'm sold. Expensive but look at how well it is designed. So practical and user friendly. I'd like to see a video of one optioned up with the comfort seat, a top box - I don't need a pillion seat. Screen for rain and wind protection. Hand covers,protection bars around grips. Slot wheel mags to let sidewinds through motorways, rural roads.
Ordered one! Test rode it and it blew me away. I actually have an i3 too and it rides like the i3. Regen brakes are great. Tons of torque, takes off like a rocket. Light and nimble. perfect commuter, but also a fun weekend bike for the city. I wont be taking it on long trips though, not till infrastructure improves.
$15,000 in Canada and the 400 GT Gas version is $9,000 which gives you $6,000 for gas which is 65 MPG gets you around 1818 gallons of fuel for around 118,181 miles of range enough said !!!!
Ah cool, another person who thinks the environment they live in and air they breathe is worth 0 dollars. Hey outer space is a free environment to live in, for 30 seconds or so.
Now do trips for oil changes, the hassle of stopping at gas stations regularly, spark plug maintenance and all the other crap that comes with normal engines…. We don’t buy a scooter like this to save gas money, my man.
I'm usually into more traditional designs with bikes, like modern classics etc. But this is actually pretty cool! The only bit I'm not a fan of is the orange visor, kinda looks like something Id have made in D&T back in my school days!
Pretty smart machine. I'd like to see an option to colour up the wheels, and maybe add anchor points to add passenger backrest or luggage mounting. Very Akira, which I like a lot.
I like the look of this even if many think it's like an ironing board. Reverse! Superbly equipped. But far too many features for an 80 mile scooter - a Super Soco or Niu will do that job at a fraction of the price. Good on BMW for making this. And when that battery density goes up - nice it's sharing the iX/i4 pack so good chance of that - it'll be a lot more compelling.
I'll keep my C-evolution but you can't really compare that to a super soco or a Niu : 42hp / 120km/h top speed. Overkill (and if anything like the C-evo frankly too heavy) if you only cruise downtown but a must if you have a more mixed commute highway/road and then downtown. And also knowing BMW the chassis is certainly a must, my C-evo feels like it"s on a rail.
Recently had the chance to ride one from Blackfoot Motosports in Calgary AB, I find the ride very comfortable, there is definitely power to spare when you are on the highway, as you mentioned that TFT display is awesome...the best part about this is the Fun Factor...it is off the chart!
Motorbikes like this should have two dials to adjust the Throttle response and Regen on the go. It has been said that it is most economical not to regenerate every time you let go of the gas. You should coast and only regen when needed. What I got from this is you should always ride the Rain mode to limit acceleration and regen and then change to eco when you NEED to stop. I guess it works like that ok but you need to know what every mode does.
Looks great. 30 years ago when I had a 60 min commute on my Beemer each day this might have converted me to a scooter rider. Go electric, go Sci-Fi styling!
Yeah the headlight is the only thing I don’t love. It’s not quite as square and blocky as the rest of the bike. But I guess the front end needs to be at least a bit aerodynamic…
First thing I did was check charging in my area, Northeast Ct, honestly I could travel the state so that’s enough for me. Have to stop for coffee but that’s not an issue and they keep adding more charging stations so that’s ok
this is one of the most impressive things ive seen in recent times. im considering getting a bike license just so I can buy this bike. I already have a hybrid 330e so this would be a nice addition.
I like it - looks very cool and would be great for my work commute of around 5 miles a day. The price is way too salty though and puts it way out of reach for most of us. In comparison - I recently bought a Honda Forza 300 with less than 500 miles on it for £4800, which makes the BMW look very expensive. Also, how could it be chained up? I didn’t seem very security friendly. Andy 🏴
As much as I like this concept for scooters and for city commuting , I hope that motorcycles never go electric. There is just something so special about an engine, like the noises and the clutch and the gears the list goes on.
Nah. The noise is just moronic. I heard and saw a bunch of sport bikes yesterday at 21:30 passing a popular lake / park /castle area. All with sports exhaust, popping on overrun, they drove responsible and were attempting to pass by in reasonable anonymity. I think everyone hated it. Even I was on the fence. 😉
If the seat was design better you'll have more cargo space, and fit easily a helmet, next model of this scooter will be a nice thing to see in the future
I actually like the look of this but the thing I don't like about it is the storage compartment. That space could have been utilised for an extra optional battery pack to give it more range. Also it takes a long time to charge, set the scene, pouring down with rain or it just started snowing, you got 40 mile ride to get home, but the battery is way too low to get you there, you have to sit and wait 2 or more hours just to get home, and what if you don't have a charger at home, or can't charge at home, your bike will be flat the next day until you take it to the nearest charger and wait for it to charge yet another 2 to 4 or more hours. But with the extra space and with an optional battery you could leave that on charge in your house take it out when you need it, won't need to go looking for a street charger, and so on. So it has potential but it still does not address the issue of charge time and charge issues, and what's the point of having a bike that goes reasonably fast if it is only for the city, most cities now in the UK for example are 20 mph. And you won't need to wait in the rain or snow while it charges, unlike this.
I really like the design. I want to see a GT version with maybe midi sized wheels for two up longer distances. Or maybe the similar design language with a crossover looking bike...
Genuinely think this e-bike from BMW does look great but they need to upgrade what’s on offer eg: longer range (125-150 miles at least), higher speed (85 mph max), improved wind protection, heated grips, better storage, larger lights that won’t break if the bike is dropped, slightly bigger wheels and it needs to be cheaper!
Nice review, thanks. I would get one just for the design, it really is something special. I even like the rear wheel. But not at that price. Maybe when they come down to sensible used levels.
Design is unique and mostly decent but I think BMW designers were almost finished with only rear wheel and went out to celebrate and all hungover the next day just phoned in what looks like a Toyota Tercel steel wheel spare tire. Its conspicuous in its unfinished looking state.
Love the design but the problem is still the range. For the costs, you're still better off getting other internal combustion options such as the Honda ADV (depending on where you live). It's a valiant 1st effort but if the goal is to get more riders on 2 wheels and to look to a green future, the price needs to come down and range needs to go up.
The Niu range is the same but fraction of the price. Its home charging though hasn't got the outlet charger like this but i Live inner city and its hard to find chargers anyway.
I like this bike but it is a specific use model. That is longer range commuting. For short commuting you’d go for a more compact scooter and for recreation a Zero or Alrendo.
There is a visible gap between the seat and the storage compartment. I don't understand why did they waste that space? Storage could have been larger. A full size large helmet and 2 gloves would fit easily.
I like it I have been after an electric motor scooter and that will suit me perfectly thank you for the review I would also like to see some of the accessories that you spoke about as that would be very helpful in guiding my choices and well done good review
This is great if you happen to have a tiny garage…a lot of houses in LA have small garages so that’s pretty cool…80 miles to the charge with a 4 hour charge time….eh is disappointing…for most city dwellers that would be work commute and then come home…charge and you really have to build any curricular activities around it charging…this is greatest if you live & work in a 15-20 minute commute…
And the highest prices you ever seen.. only the rich will afford them.. I thought they would go down as time goes by.. but instead they just added more capability and raised the prices.. This bike cost over 12000$ and it is really just a replacement for cheap Chinese in city scooters you can buy for about 1500$... A real electric motorcycle like Harley has cost over 30 grand
@@zinta1 agreed. New tech takes time to ramp in production and sheer numbers which reduces price eventually. Sadly its the poor who are going to suffer the most with the ongoing world fuel crisis. Nickel and other prime battery elements are becoming scarce made worse due to the Russia V Ukraine conflict. Dont expect price reductions for a while
@@HabitualFixation 75% of all the electric bike companies that ever existed have failed and are gone.. some had great bikes with really good engineering...but they died.. because as you say... resources to make the batteries.. and PRICE..and some people just wont buy them.. you can expect more failures in the near future... I would expect the electric car and bike industry to take a dive
What´s smart about it? Only a person who never rode a motorbike could say that. The passenger seat is suicide, the helmet storage is just stupid and also small, the looks are shit, the yellow accent colors look like bug stains. It looks like an ugly fish and half-way to the rear the design just changes completely and it turns into a pill shaped clown ride.
As a very expensive bike for use in cities, are there enough security features to stop it getting nicked? Looks impossible to put any locks or chains on it
I love it, but it’s a niche market and BMW have gambled with that price tag, I think. Niche, because I think it is perhaps just for commuting. A luggage rack would have been way better, as well as the heated grips and bigger screen.
130 km of range this is very little. The actual travel distance will probably be even less. To make it clear, for Italy, where the overwhelming number of people travel by scooter, it is necessary to cover the distances from Milan to Bergamo, for example, twice a day. Buying a scooter to drive only around the city is very strange.
Great review scooter looks nice in fairness but to expensive like all electric vehicles and would get stolen in the UK in about 10 minutes from any large city.
I love that they basically took the underpowered but very sexy extended Honda Rukus design and electrified it to something respectable powerwise! Might be selling/swapping my Zero FX for one of these. Awesome commuter package! Thanks for the great video. 👍
I can bring about €60 of groceries on my humble Lifan E3 electric scooter - purchase cost €2,600. With its flat spacious floor - ideal for placing a big shopping bag between your feet, helmet box and a rucksack if needed (usually not). It also has some nice storage space under the seat for your bike lock and rain gear. That scooter may look cool but its not very practical for shopping. Id sonner buy a nice classic petrol bike if I had that money to spend.
I stopped half way to check out the price, it seems very expensive for what it is. There are loads of alternatives and I’m not talking about electric scooters, petrol alternatives are still really good options plus there are 100,s of ebikes that could meet a users need, I have a small car, a Brompton and now I’m considering a piaggio mp3 bike which is about 7k, I use all vehicles depending on the journey, the bmw is priced like a decent used car. I think they missed a trick here on pricing.
Still is strongly limited in range, not for city riding or commuting, but has no range for touring which is a point counter the choice of having this bike for multiple purposes. The price, for what is offered is still high. But amongst the electric motorcycles is a choice of excellency:- It’s futuristic design is a great plus, the power and agility on urban environment is something else. At the red lights it’s always the first to come out ahead every vehicle, and 3-4 hours to load up the battery full or 75% full seems more than capable. Very spacious seat for two and there is a reasonable luggage space with a cavity capable of storing one full helmet in there. And to my eyes it doesn’t look like a simple scooter as this segment of bikes they all look alike . This has a so different aesthetic and design that doesn’t look like any other scooter. One thing that I don’t like on scooters is the sound their engines produce, and this one has practically no sound as all electric engines are:- Silent. So in traffic it’s s a joy to ride, very fast and stealth , great maneuverability. It was a pleasure to test ride it. This is a motorcycle different from everything that is available in the Market.👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I like it. I could use it for my commuter, and I think I'd enjoy it, but it's missing some practicality points. I live in a flat, so I can't plug it in. How do I lock it up? Now if they made it so I could pull the battery out and take it inside to charge, that would mean I could use it, and probably make it not worth nicking. A single helmet space isn't enough storage for me.
Thanks for the great initial review Bob! Quick off the mark as usual. A couple of things I thought about on first seeing this. First and foremost, it looks like a good scooter for city travel. I like the quirky futuristic looks (personal taste obv) the seat looks terrible though and the pillion 'perch' is a serious afterthought. I LOVE the TFT dash! ALL bikes with a TFT take a look at how it should be done! Range is acceptable for what it is intended to do, commute city streets. If you live further than 40 miles then you're looking at charging at work. (No biggie) I would have liked to see a dedicated storage area for the charging cables separate from the 'boot' area. This bike is going to need charging with a small range and the ability to carry the cables without taking up storage would be key if I was designing it. The price....yeah...THAT is a sore one. best part of 12k UK is steep.
Great review! I am selling all of my BMW motorcycles and thinking of just buying this scooter for getting around town and over to the gym. Where can I see the total package of options for the bike?
I have the grey color scooter -- its good scooter it is classified as a motorcycle here in the US -- one problem the phone cradle does not fit my Samsung Galaxy Ultra 20 with the case off -- I had to break one tabs to get it out of the phone holder--bad design. Also -range - you will need to plan your commute to include a charging station stop.
Full motovlog here: ua-cam.com/video/RFG3aygpS4s/v-deo.html
This is why i Hate Electric vehicles £850 for a Fucking charger!! Scam!! I Bought a Brand New 125cc for that!! 😈
When will it be available in the states?
Second, how do you secure it? Does it have anti theft features?
@@SuperiorNo1 I bought a charger on Amazon for £ 200. use it for my electric car. The manufacturers and dealers make more money on accessories!! Of course once you have a wall box charger at home with male lead. you don't need to faff around. during the petrol station fuel shortage I didn't waste any time in the ques. EV are a time saver once you get used to the charge at home idea. obviously for cars range would have to be 300 miles + for distances longer than 150 + miles return. there are more advantages than disadvantages especially if its second family driver!! for petrol two wheeler I would want comfort of 300-400 cc for occasional dual carriage runs. Ride Safe..
@@SuperiorNo1 Mine came with the upgraded charger and comfort package. I just wish it had 100 mile range.
Great bike. Just purchased mine a week ago. Fully loaded. I wish this had a it more range. 100 mile range would be the sweet spot. They designed this as a commuter. Yes & no. Why do you need all these modes for around town. It clearly was designed for more than a commuter. I think because of the limited range they called it a commuter. The performance is really spectacular. The regenerative breaking makes this bike even safer and will cut down on break wear greatly.
It looks very cool, but it seems the engineers went out to lunch and forgot to design a rear wheel. It looks like the spare tire from my old 97 Civic.
Haha I won’t be able to unsee that now… it looks better with the decal pack 🤷♂️
Looks like the kind of crap I get at junk yards to weld a pipe on for a sprinkler. Them spares make it super easy to roll the sprinklers to another spot in the field but looks like shite on this
"Where's the rear wheel? "
Designer : "rear what?"
Agreed; very strange decision
Yes it looks well designed from the front u til you get as far as the pillion, thereafter the job must have been to a 7 year old, high on Haribo !
Very impressed,actually more than that I'm sold. Expensive but look at how well it is designed. So practical and user friendly. I'd like to see a video of one optioned up with the comfort seat, a top box - I don't need a pillion seat. Screen for rain and wind protection. Hand covers,protection bars around grips. Slot wheel mags to let sidewinds through motorways, rural roads.
"911 help! Someone stole my purse!"
"What did the thief look like?"
"TRON"
Ordered one! Test rode it and it blew me away. I actually have an i3 too and it rides like the i3. Regen brakes are great. Tons of torque, takes off like a rocket. Light and nimble. perfect commuter, but also a fun weekend bike for the city. I wont be taking it on long trips though, not till infrastructure improves.
It’s made for commuters - you charge it at home, so infrastructure isn’t an issue.
just got mine today! its amazing
1 year update please - would you buy again?
$15,000 in Canada and the 400 GT Gas version is $9,000 which gives you $6,000 for gas which is 65 MPG gets you around 1818 gallons of fuel for around 118,181 miles of range enough said !!!!
What's the maintenance on the gas version?
Gas prices are sky rocketing, absolutely crazy now. So that math will change.
Don't forget to check for Provincial rebates, in Quebec we get a 2,000$ rebate on all electric motorcycles
Ah cool, another person who thinks the environment they live in and air they breathe is worth 0 dollars. Hey outer space is a free environment to live in, for 30 seconds or so.
Now do trips for oil changes, the hassle of stopping at gas stations regularly, spark plug maintenance and all the other crap that comes with normal engines…. We don’t buy a scooter like this to save gas money, my man.
I just love the design - it looks just like it should
Every aspect of it screams future and I love BMW for choosing the future path with this one
Pffft hahaha. It looks shit.
@@THXn11 just like ur face
I like the core concept of the design but would like to see these elements in sport bikes and cruisers.
i like it. looks kinda honda big ruckus i missed out on buying in 2005.
I'm usually into more traditional designs with bikes, like modern classics etc. But this is actually pretty cool! The only bit I'm not a fan of is the orange visor, kinda looks like something Id have made in D&T back in my school days!
You can order a normal visor as well.
To protect the display....
Pretty smart machine. I'd like to see an option to colour up the wheels, and maybe add anchor points to add passenger backrest or luggage mounting. Very Akira, which I like a lot.
Probably the most interesting modern designed bike of any kind on the market today, bravo to BMW!
A styling exercise. BMW will be lucky to sell a dozen in the UK. One for wealthy posers only.
The overheating problem is real! I was navigating in Colombia and my phone went into a safe mode if I kept it in the sun for not long at all.
I like the look of this even if many think it's like an ironing board. Reverse! Superbly equipped. But far too many features for an 80 mile scooter - a Super Soco or Niu will do that job at a fraction of the price. Good on BMW for making this. And when that battery density goes up - nice it's sharing the iX/i4 pack so good chance of that - it'll be a lot more compelling.
More features!
Exactly. Half the price for that range, or double the range for that price ! That could be a fantastic road scooter.
I'll keep my C-evolution but you can't really compare that to a super soco or a Niu : 42hp / 120km/h top speed. Overkill (and if anything like the C-evo frankly too heavy) if you only cruise downtown but a must if you have a more mixed commute highway/road and then downtown.
And also knowing BMW the chassis is certainly a must, my C-evo feels like it"s on a rail.
Recently had the chance to ride one from Blackfoot Motosports in Calgary AB, I find the ride very comfortable, there is definitely power to spare when you are on the highway, as you mentioned that TFT display is awesome...the best part about this is the Fun Factor...it is off the chart!
Thanks Bob for a very good comprehensive look at the BMW, look forward to reviewing this in Aus conditions (heat). Cheers.
If i lived in a city I would definitly want one. And i love the futuristic look
Wow, I really like it. Good job BMW. I might pick one up in the future.
Feb 2022:Healthy 70 y/o Torontonian. Great show, thanks for all the effort and details. I'm off to buy a BMW CE 04!
Motorbikes like this should have two dials to adjust the Throttle response and Regen on the go. It has been said that it is most economical not to regenerate every time you let go of the gas. You should coast and only regen when needed. What I got from this is you should always ride the Rain mode to limit acceleration and regen and then change to eco when you NEED to stop. I guess it works like that ok but you need to know what every mode does.
Looks great. 30 years ago when I had a 60 min commute on my Beemer each day this might have converted me to a scooter rider. Go electric, go Sci-Fi styling!
They should have a large storage box above the rear fender, always a great review
There’s one as an accessory 👍
Been waiting for this review. Excellent design and features. If only the price was a bit better. But then again people pay as much for a T-max
Stereo sound of this video is amazing.
Looks pretty cool - tech pack is impressive.
Pretty fun little platform. I like the design except the headlight. Will be interesting to see what modders come up with. It's very expensive though.
Yeah the headlight is the only thing I don’t love. It’s not quite as square and blocky as the rest of the bike. But I guess the front end needs to be at least a bit aerodynamic…
“Suitable fot highways” … it won’t have the range to get to the next exit at 70 mph
I think it's reeeeally cool. The range is the only thing that would keep me away from it. Otherwise, love it.
First thing I did was check charging in my area, Northeast Ct, honestly I could travel the state so that’s enough for me. Have to stop for coffee but that’s not an issue and they keep adding more charging stations so that’s ok
this is one of the most impressive things ive seen in recent times. im considering getting a bike license just so I can buy this bike. I already have a hybrid 330e so this would be a nice addition.
I like it - looks very cool and would be great for my work commute of around 5 miles a day. The price is way too salty though and puts it way out of reach for most of us. In comparison - I recently bought a Honda Forza 300 with less than 500 miles on it for £4800, which makes the BMW look very expensive. Also, how could it be chained up? I didn’t seem very security friendly.
Andy 🏴
Why not an ebike?
@@mickleblade I was thinking the same thing? For a short commute like that a Ebike might even be faster because you can take shortcuts often.
5 miles a day asks for a bike
@@mickleblade A top of the line e-bike costs more!!
Found it on amazon for 83 quid and reviews genuinely shows that it's real from multiple buyers idk if it's a scam or not
I don’t even mind the price but it could do with a bit of a rack behind the seat. Could always bend one up and send it to the powder coater.
It comes with a great topbox... for a fair amount of cash. I fancy one of these.
As much as I like this concept for scooters and for city commuting , I hope that motorcycles never go electric. There is just something so special about an engine, like the noises and the clutch and the gears the list goes on.
Whilst I agree with you, you have to be aware of the lunatic legislation that is already in place.
@@maxflight777 I know :( unfortunately I dont think electrification of motorbikes can be stopped but one can only hope ;D
Where have you been, several companies are already jumping ship. Big leader … Harley.
Nah. The noise is just moronic. I heard and saw a bunch of sport bikes yesterday at 21:30 passing a popular lake / park /castle area. All with sports exhaust, popping on overrun, they drove responsible and were attempting to pass by in reasonable anonymity. I think everyone hated it. Even I was on the fence. 😉
If the seat was design better you'll have more cargo space, and fit easily a helmet, next model of this scooter will be a nice thing to see in the future
Exactly my thoughts. This was a catastrophe design-wise, but the next model will be better, maybe.
E-brake with side stand is brilliant
Seems like an obvious features that more bikes should have!
@@motobob They started it on the C600/C650s 10 years ago.
@@redwolfexr thanks for the info mate. Wonder why only on scooters and not on motos?
@@motobob Likely because they are all automatics. Don't really need a brake oin a manual tranny.
I think it looks ace! price is my only grumble
Looks sooo much better than in white.
Needs back rest & some sort of rear box - has the length for it !
Love that futuristic look this would work out fine for me. Very cool
Love it. BMW nailed it.
Makes me appreciate my 2006 Burgman even more. Great review though.
Alright, normally scooters look lame, but this looks proper techno and I love it.
Really love this bike, I can see a SUITable use for it for sure
That red Akira bike is becoming each year more and more possible
Crazy expensive for only 2 persons. It is not a car !!! Excelent review. Great work!
Love it...would buy one today...except...80 miles, that's still not enough range for me to be comfortable.
Love everything about it except the price.
I actually like the look of this but the thing I don't like about it is the storage compartment.
That space could have been utilised for an extra optional battery pack to give it more range.
Also it takes a long time to charge, set the scene, pouring down with rain or it just started snowing, you got 40 mile ride to get home, but the battery is way too low to get you there, you have to sit and wait 2 or more hours just to get home, and what if you don't have a charger at home, or can't charge at home, your bike will be flat the next day until you take it to the nearest charger and wait for it to charge yet another 2 to 4 or more hours.
But with the extra space and with an optional battery you could leave that on charge in your house take it out when you need it, won't need to go looking for a street charger, and so on.
So it has potential but it still does not address the issue of charge time and charge issues, and what's the point of having a bike that goes reasonably fast if it is only for the city, most cities now in the UK for example are 20 mph.
And you won't need to wait in the rain or snow while it charges, unlike this.
I really like the design. I want to see a GT version with maybe midi sized wheels for two up longer distances. Or maybe the similar design language with a crossover looking bike...
Genuinely think this e-bike from BMW does look great but they need to upgrade what’s on offer eg: longer range (125-150 miles at least), higher speed (85 mph max), improved wind protection, heated grips, better storage, larger lights that won’t break if the bike is dropped, slightly bigger wheels and it needs to be cheaper!
what a great review. so on point, so clear. very good
Thankyou Abrian - I appreciate the kind words
Great review 👍🏼. Really good design and nice and practical with bags of tec. Might have to have a go on one.🤔
Nice review, thanks. I would get one just for the design, it really is something special. I even like the rear wheel. But not at that price. Maybe when they come down to sensible used levels.
Huge scooter, real whell and seat designed in SSSR.
Design is unique and mostly decent but I think BMW designers were almost finished with only rear wheel and went out to celebrate and all hungover the next day just phoned in what looks like a Toyota Tercel steel wheel spare tire. Its conspicuous in its unfinished looking state.
Not seen this channel before. Great review pal. Nice one
Thanks mate - much appreciated 👍
The best feature is to be able to carry an extra passenger on the back wheel.
The future personified. Love it.
Love the design but the problem is still the range. For the costs, you're still better off getting other internal combustion options such as the Honda ADV (depending on where you live). It's a valiant 1st effort but if the goal is to get more riders on 2 wheels and to look to a green future, the price needs to come down and range needs to go up.
The Niu range is the same but fraction of the price. Its home charging though hasn't got the outlet charger like this but i Live inner city and its hard to find chargers anyway.
I'm getting one n
Disagree. It’s a commuter, so range is fine.
Looks cool and I like the concept but with a max of 80 miles it's a second bike and at that price it is about 2x as much as I'd spend.
Superb design, hats off
I like this bike but it is a specific use model. That is longer range commuting. For short commuting you’d go for a more compact scooter and for recreation a Zero or Alrendo.
There is a visible gap between the seat and the storage compartment. I don't understand why did they waste that space? Storage could have been larger. A full size large helmet and 2 gloves would fit easily.
I dont really like scooters but man i love this one for sure.
Love the “Judge Dred” design!
I like it I have been after an electric motor scooter and that will suit me perfectly thank you for the review I would also like to see some of the accessories that you spoke about as that would be very helpful in guiding my choices and well done good review
Wow. This is impressive. I wish I could get one
It looks like they designed the scooter, forgot the storage space for the helmet and then added it by pushing the real wheel back.
Quite a handsome Honda Ruckus.
This is great if you happen to have a tiny garage…a lot of houses in LA have small garages so that’s pretty cool…80 miles to the charge with a 4 hour charge time….eh is disappointing…for most city dwellers that would be work commute and then come home…charge and you really have to build any curricular activities around it charging…this is greatest if you live & work in a 15-20 minute commute…
with the quick charger option the usual charge would be between 30 and 45 minutes.
Great, informative video! Full disclosure, I crept on your video to prepare for my own review video of the CE 04!
Loves everything except for the 130km range that's a bit too short, around 200km per charge would be more appropriate.
Love that rear wheel
Looks awesome. Heavy though! I wonder how it compares to the Fonz NKD which has similar cyberpunk styling
You gotta love how electric vehicles are bringing smart design to the market with quirky yet functional ideas
And the highest prices you ever seen.. only the rich will afford them.. I thought they would go down as time goes by.. but instead they just added more capability and raised the prices.. This bike cost over 12000$ and it is really just a replacement for cheap Chinese in city scooters you can buy for about 1500$... A real electric motorcycle like Harley has cost over 30 grand
@@zinta1 agreed. New tech takes time to ramp in production and sheer numbers which reduces price eventually. Sadly its the poor who are going to suffer the most with the ongoing world fuel crisis. Nickel and other prime battery elements are becoming scarce made worse due to the Russia V Ukraine conflict. Dont expect price reductions for a while
@@HabitualFixation 75% of all the electric bike companies that ever existed have failed and are gone.. some had great bikes with really good engineering...but they died.. because as you say... resources to make the batteries.. and PRICE..and some people just wont buy them.. you can expect more failures in the near future... I would expect the electric car and bike industry to take a dive
What´s smart about it? Only a person who never rode a motorbike could say that. The passenger seat is suicide, the helmet storage is just stupid and also small, the looks are shit, the yellow accent colors look like bug stains. It looks like an ugly fish and half-way to the rear the design just changes completely and it turns into a pill shaped clown ride.
@@christianeriksson4733 so I’m guessing you don’t like it? Lmao
Looks great just waiting for an electric bobber style bike because I’m to short for the sport bike style
Great review Bob
Thanks John!
great overview , thank you from Canada ! Manny🙂
As a very expensive bike for use in cities, are there enough security features to stop it getting nicked? Looks impossible to put any locks or chains on it
That is a good point , even the brake discs are covered maybe you can put a U lock around the belt drive lol.
Keyless & pretty hefty..... Plus track able anyone using it at public charger or turns it on assuming its got sim connected
I love it, but it’s a niche market and BMW have gambled with that price tag, I think. Niche, because I think it is perhaps just for commuting. A luggage rack would have been way better, as well as the heated grips and bigger screen.
For city use this thing seems good. But if you want to be more environment friendly consider buying a used bike that's already been made.
I like it the styling is a little too sci-fi but I like the features
130 km of range this is very little. The actual travel distance will probably be even less. To make it clear, for Italy, where the overwhelming number of people travel by scooter, it is necessary to cover the distances from Milan to Bergamo, for example, twice a day. Buying a scooter to drive only around the city is very strange.
Great review.. 👏
I do like a scoot.. especially for buzzing around London … not so good for the 30 mile commute in
Great review scooter looks nice in fairness but to expensive like all electric vehicles and would get stolen in the UK in about 10 minutes from any large city.
I like it, but I need to know if there is support for a top box before I can even consider it.
I love that they basically took the underpowered but very sexy extended Honda Rukus design and electrified it to something respectable powerwise! Might be selling/swapping my Zero FX for one of these. Awesome commuter package! Thanks for the great video. 👍
Very interesting. Good skills Bob.
I can bring about €60 of groceries on my humble Lifan E3 electric scooter - purchase cost €2,600. With its flat spacious floor - ideal for placing a big shopping bag between your feet, helmet box and a rucksack if needed (usually not). It also has some nice storage space under the seat for your bike lock and rain gear. That scooter may look cool but its not very practical for shopping. Id sonner buy a nice classic petrol bike if I had that money to spend.
This design reminds me of Suzuki Gemma from more than 10 years ago, it sucks that Suzuki descontinued it 😞
I stopped half way to check out the price, it seems very expensive for what it is. There are loads of alternatives and I’m not talking about electric scooters, petrol alternatives are still really good options plus there are 100,s of ebikes that could meet a users need, I have a small car, a Brompton and now I’m considering a piaggio mp3 bike which is about 7k, I use all vehicles depending on the journey, the bmw is priced like a decent used car. I think they missed a trick here on pricing.
Still is strongly limited in range, not for city riding or commuting, but has no range for touring which is a point counter the choice of having this bike for multiple purposes. The price, for what is offered is still high. But amongst the electric motorcycles is a choice of excellency:- It’s futuristic design is a great plus, the power and agility on urban environment is something else. At the red lights it’s always the first to come out ahead every vehicle, and 3-4 hours to load up the battery full or 75% full seems more than capable. Very spacious seat for two and there is a reasonable luggage space with a cavity capable of storing one full helmet in there. And to my eyes it doesn’t look like a simple scooter as this segment of bikes they all look alike . This has a so different aesthetic and design that doesn’t look like any other scooter. One thing that I don’t like on scooters is the sound their engines produce, and this one has practically no sound as all electric engines are:- Silent.
So in traffic it’s s a joy to ride, very fast and stealth , great maneuverability. It was a pleasure to test ride it. This is a motorcycle different from everything that is available in the Market.👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I like it. I could use it for my commuter, and I think I'd enjoy it, but it's missing some practicality points. I live in a flat, so I can't plug it in. How do I lock it up? Now if they made it so I could pull the battery out and take it inside to charge, that would mean I could use it, and probably make it not worth nicking. A single helmet space isn't enough storage for me.
Hey nice observations , please suggest if we can modify the CE 04 with a Roof like structure to make it look like micro car ?
Thanks for the great initial review Bob! Quick off the mark as usual. A couple of things I thought about on first seeing this.
First and foremost, it looks like a good scooter for city travel. I like the quirky futuristic looks (personal taste obv) the seat looks terrible though and the pillion 'perch' is a serious afterthought.
I LOVE the TFT dash! ALL bikes with a TFT take a look at how it should be done!
Range is acceptable for what it is intended to do, commute city streets. If you live further than 40 miles then you're looking at charging at work. (No biggie)
I would have liked to see a dedicated storage area for the charging cables separate from the 'boot' area. This bike is going to need charging with a small range and the ability to carry the cables without taking up storage would be key if I was designing it.
The price....yeah...THAT is a sore one. best part of 12k UK is steep.
Well if you charge at work every day, you put the cable in the storage while you ride, and the helmet in there while you park and charge?
Great review! I am selling all of my BMW motorcycles and thinking of just buying this scooter for getting around town and over to the gym. Where can I see the total package of options for the bike?
Brilliant review - thank you
I don’t like scooters , but that’s a game changer for me 👍
First video watched and impressed, followed and looking forward to more 😀
Almost hate to say it but that minimalist spare tire rear wheel is growing on me
I have the grey color scooter -- its good scooter it is classified as a motorcycle here in the US -- one problem the phone cradle does not fit my Samsung Galaxy Ultra 20 with the case off -- I had to break one tabs to get it out of the phone holder--bad design. Also -range - you will need to plan your commute to include a charging station stop.