BMW CE 04 - Worth the Money?
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
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Kase takes the BME CE 04 for a first ride and review.
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Not worth the money. After three months of ownership, mine is in the repair shop. I will be trading it in before the three year warranty runs out. I would not recommend the CE-04.
I owned one for about 4 months and in that time I drove about 2000km on my CE04 and about 2500km on loaner bikes because of problems. It even went back to BMW in Germany and stayed there for about 1 month. It came back with a new batterypack an after driving It for about 100km the same problems reappeared. I then traded the CE04 for a BMW R Nine T Urban GS…
@@johnnyvanderels8445 in the states, if the same problem exist three times, or if the vehicle is in the shop 30 days, it falls under the vehicle lemon law. It's been in the shop now for 14 days. To be honest, I hope they can't repair it. I will be going back to a Yamaha bike
@@Bobbgeanethe lemon law depends on your state. Found that out the hard way with a scooter I bought, Florida has no lemon law on two wheeled vehicles
@@samebert4344 Alabama does The Alabama lemon law covers self-propelled vehicles intended primarily for use and operation on the public highways. A two wheeled vehicle is considered a vehicle if it is designed to operate on the highway
What problem did you have?
I purchased a 2023 CE 04 from Riverside BMW in California for $8900 for a demo version with 240 mile and Every available option and I Love it. Comfortable, fast, conversation piece and the Fast Charger is extremely useful.
I have one and drove over 18000 km with it. It works as advertised. I like it a lot! Only thing: a little more battery capacity would be nice. From its predecessor we know it would be possible.
The rear brake/turn indicators are made out of rice paper with tons of owners on the forums complaining about how easy they break. I’m 5’7 and I wanted to sit where the hump was also when I test rode it. They make multiple seats with different seating positions. The realistic range will be 40-60 miles depending how fast you ride, weather, if you have the heated grips and seat on, etc.
That's what they get for buying BMW. I stopped considering it a high quality brand a LONG time ago...
I have one. It does about 60-65mls outercity. Innercity it's up to 110mls. Using heated grips doesn't lower the range, an the heated seat only about 1-2mls, but in reality it's less, because You use it only shortly, because it's very hot.
This is great for SEA, countries like Singapore would love this
In southern Norway the range is 60 miles..
From a visibility point of view twin headlights illuminated at all times and utilising the higher placement of the taillight would be better.
looks so utilitarian. love it. Can't wait for Ami
I had a BMW K bike, my best friend had three BMW convertibles and a BMW motorcycle. my daughter was dating a BMW automobile dealer mechanic..
let me put it this way
BMW earned a reputation for building, probably the best motorcycle shop until the early 80s for reliability, solid engineering, ease of maintenance, resale value . something happened to BMW in the 1980s when they tried to compete with the Japanese motorcycles. I will only say that, they sure are not what they used to be.
as for their cars, my friend that had three BMW convertible cars that were leased and returned, and then he would buy them, he loved them, and they were nice looking cars, he was the type of guy that would get out with a can of spray detailer, and spot the bugs and bird poop off of his car constantly.. he would take those cars only to a BMW dealer to do even the most simple jobs like, changing the oil or changing the air filter. He would take those cars into the dealer for their prescribed service at prescribed mileages in the owners manual, and they would shake him by the ankles every time. It was never less than $1200.
his last BMW a few years ago, he needed a battery. Battery prices have gone up, but he needed the “very special “battery for a BMW that fits under the back passenger seat. So it wasn’t $150, it was $375…
my daughters boyfriend that was a BMW service department mechanic told me that he loves BMWs, because he makes buckets of money working on them because you must take your car to the BMW dealer for a lot of simple jobs because you need to have a very special one of a kind BMW tools to do the job. It’s job security for the dealership service department.
my friend has had three BMW convertibles in 10 years also gets talked into buying those extended car warranty’s. They advertise on television all the time. He was paying $155 a month for over 10 years for that insurance for repairs on all three of his BMWs one after the other..
but when he had to turn in a claim to the insurance company, here’s how it went
his convertible top would not go up and down, not covered
his driver seat frame broke, not covered
his transmission was an automatic, but it had a shifter that you could put into manual mode and pretend you were driving a stick shift. By following an H pattern, they were breaking in all the BMWs, because not even salvage yards had any to sell. They were on backorder, not covered.
is control module to operate the power windows and door locks in the drivers door failed- notcovered..
over the years I told my friend he is wasting his money with that extended car warranty because they don’t cover anything when you really need it. So we sat down and figured out how much money he spent on those three BMW cars for maintenance and repairs, not counting what he paid for the cars.
$155 a month for 10 years is 120× $155.. that’s more than $18,600. Then there was the cost out of his own pocket to do those four major repairs that were not covered. They added up to over $11,000 including some other smaller items that were not covered
that was almost $30,000 spent on repairs and insurance that was supposed to cover the repairs
I finally convinced my friend to buy a brand new car and never never never buy an extended warranty on anything ever again ..
he took my advice, invited, Brand New, Toyota. He’s had it for about five years now, and he has had zero problems with it.
The moral of this true story is, when you buy a BMW, you have to marry the dealer ..
before I would buy a BMW scooter, I would read a lot of feedback from the Internet, I would watch a lot of videos about them on UA-cam, comparing them to other brands, then I would buy a Suzuki Burgman, or a Honda scooter.. BMW is living off of a name they made for themselves back in the 50s 60s and 70s. I have had 108 motorcycles so far, one BMW…
that BMW was the most flawed motorcycle I have ever owned. It didn’t break down or get me stranded anywhere, but it had a weird front end that no other company has even tried to copy. that front and made that motorcycle, feel extremely top-heavy, unstable, and actually terrifying at times because that motorcycle weighed 900 pounds. It was the top-of-the-line BMW K 1200 LT. I was on a gravel road one day going downhill. I went to use the brakes, the ABS system detected wheel slippage, and I had zero brakes, front and rear no brakes. I had to run into a fence around a salvage yard at the bottom of the hill to stop. I sold that bike two weeks later. When I would use the side stand to get gas or to go into a restaurant, when I would come out and start the bike, it poured white smoke out the exhaust. The dealer said that’s normal. Don’t worry about it. The final drives were blowing up around the world. The dealer said that only happens on overloaded bikes, or bikes that pulled heavy trailers. They turned out to not be true. they were just not as good as the Japanese final drives.. actor EWAN McGregor, and his buddy Charlie Boorman did the television series, long way around on BMW GS motorcycles around 2012 or so. They started in Europe after they went to BMW to learn how to work on the bikes and become familiar with the bikes… those two guys were very mechanically experienced at working on all types of motorcycles. So they left England went across Europe. When they got to Mongolia, they had a brake issue with one of the bikes. While talking on a satellite phone to the mechanic and engineering department. They could not get the brakes to work at all, nothing because of that very individual different ABS system that only BMW has. they ended up getting an aux card or some thing and transporting that broken motorcycle to a train station and shipping it back to England on a train. And they bought a local motorcycle somewhere in Mongolia, a Jawa I think it was a 350 cc and they gave that to the cameraman, and they took the cameraman’s BMW to finish the trip. that was a perfect lesson when that happened in that show. They could not fix it, it was programmed and design so that it had to go back to the dealer so he could plug it into his analyzer computer to do a reset..
talk to BMW owners that are honest and they will tell you what they’re really like..
Watch UA-cam videos of a video maker, his website on UA-cam name is c90adventures- this guy traveled alone across Australia, took a ship to Indonesia, rode across Asia, into Europe, and back to England, where he was from on a Honda 90 motorcycle that was a retired postal worker bike that they used in Australia to deliver mail. in one of his or many of his videos on, UA-cam, when he would have mechanical issues, he would usually have them fixed within a day, and many times he would say “try that on your BMW, GS” highlighting the fact that you can get parts for those Hondas, anywhere in the world quickly. But not so quickly on a BMW…
i’m not telling you to not buy a bmw.. I am suggesting that you do some homework before making your final decision. And if the vehicle you were considering it is a electric powered vehicle, my opinion on that is, you would be better off to go to the nearest casino and bet on the crap game for the shooter to make his point if it is 6 or 8.. It’s a safer bet
3:43 In Europe high- and low-beam is divided in both upper and lower lenses, so You have 2 light spots running symmetrically.
My vehicle has been in the repair shop for 48 days and still not repaired. In contact with the manufacturer to buy it back, or replace it with another vehicle model.
40 hp is all you need, it's more than enough.
I want one of these, but I want a huge rack behind the rider to mount a big storage box on top of, as if it were a pick up truck.
These are the types of electronic vehicles i can stand behind. I don't have the faith in cars or trucks at this time, but im willing to support bikes and quads as electric vehicles.
I have one and I don't want any other bike.
(But of course I have my own charging point and I don't touring...)
I would like to have one but the price has to come down. Range up, price down and I’d get one.
THANKS KASE😊
Love the yellow gloves, where did you get them?
me too what are they ?
Are there any electric vehicles tax credits available for this thing? If so, I could see getting one.
There is not
There are tons of new or used motorcycles I'd rather have for that price.
Given the very large size, it could (and should) hold a lot more batteries.
The range is meh. I can't believe it won't go over 100 miles on a single charge. For what BMW asks, it's overpriced. It's like Rolex, half the money is just for the damn logo on the front.
Rolex is $ for a "logo" 😆 🤣 😂
Oh that's rich.. I guess the 55years of beating on my after my sister found it on a beach must be because of "the logo". I like cheap watches to, but your ignorance is priceless 😄
@largol33t12 you don't have to buy it if you don't want to
@@georgehofgren6123he didn’t actually say the money is for the logo. Read his comment properly
Its the ultimate motorcycle. Yes i said it. Let the haters hate. Im serious, you pay the higher price for the beauty of electric benefits. No gas, 1,000 problems deleted that gas engines give you. The ONE and only legit problem if one had to pick one, is the milage. If it had like 50 to 100 more mile range added to it, it be perfection. Now all that being said, the dilemma for most riders is you can get a Kawai 900 retro for same price if not a little cheaper. So thats why the mentality of the MAJORITY, is they rather have all the problems gas engines give, because at least you get way more power and speed and longer trips. So for me if was going to buy a motorcycle over this, it would have to be the Kawasaki Z900RS. But really the BMW wins just because the overall benefits of electric. Now, the other dilemma is wait to see if BMW makes a more longer range model , so patience is an issue for me. Cuz i feel they will make a lomger range model for the next model. But can i wait. ✌️
I agree - I have owned gasoline powered motorcycles for decades. We had an electric scooter for a couple years (A Kumpan) but they went bankrupt and I had an electronics issue and couldn't get it fixed. So I vowed only to buy bigger brands. But electric is SO nice for my use case (short in-town trips). It's way faster and longer range than the vespa model (which does have more classic and beautiful design). I'm just gun-shy about dropping another large amount of money on any electric product. But when they work they are very very enjoyable to ride.
I would not say it is worth it to me at that price. MAYBE 1/2 that price. But back in the day, equivalent style mopeds were all most people needed for some local putting around. This machine is neat. It has some interesting tech. And if you delivered pizza for a living in say, NYC, it would be fun until it got nicked. lol.
there are pedal ebikes that have more range
That's true. Might have trouble hitting highway speeds though.
Pedal bikes typically won't go that speed for 1. 2, the range extender is your own stamina. lol. Factor the comfort or lack there of a pedal bike in, and no thanks.
@@WW-wf8tu Maybe but at least you can still get home on a dead battery. I'd rather an EV moped than an all electric scooter that has a steeeeep price and lousy range. But EV mopeds ARE taking off slowly. Two of the last three bike shops I visited had at least a dozen for sale.
No shit they go 30 mph😅
Not even possibility to swap the battery. And a price tag 15k. No thanks
Looks like the Honda CN 250.
I’ll take my $3000 used Burgman 650 all day long over this ce04. 26k miles with zero problems and I’ve even done 4 iron butts with it👍
Am I wrong that the vast majority of scooters in Europe (big cities) are small, grimy, fit-to-purpose . . . and cheap?
Give them some credit this is all new tech and there first to do it in this design I'm sure things will get cheaper
will wait until they convert to the Tesla plug. but seems like a nice scooter.
It would be better if the camera was angled higher
I don't think so. I want to see the scoot. Not the road.
Ever see an oil drill and refinery. Lol
Everything is bad for the environment
150 mile range for the cost maybe. 40-60 miles? You must be MAD.
At 80 miles range I wouldn’t pay even half that !
80 miles is bad. I can't believe it doesn't go at least 105-110 miles per charge. Ridiculous. BMW has a loooooooong way to go before any of its EV scooters are practical. I don't understand why Tesla doesn't make EV scooters. They'd easily grab 15-20% of the market.
CE-02 は、より安く、より短く、より軽くなってくれることに期待。CE-04 も、見た目は良いのだが、それを通勤や、ちょっとした買い物に使うには、ごつすぎる。
This BMW costs TWICE as much as it should 🤷🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No one gives a pigs @ss about electric motorcycles.
The gas tank gets smaller when you: use it, its cold, its hot, you go fast, you fill it to fast, run it to low, and not using it.
Just a foolish idea.
My commute is 39 miles one way… this just simply wouldn’t work. We have no charging stations at work. So IF I got the full 80 miles of range id get home with 2 miles to spare. I’m pretty sure I won’t get the full 80 miles of range.
You can charge it on a 3 pin too, i think it takes about 3 hours but commuting 40 miles is an almost ideal use for this bike. Save a lot of money on petrol, obviously its too much money to start with, Ive been looking at them second hand.
When I first saw one in a dealer, I thought cool. Then the sales guys said $13000 and I said dumb. I have owned several scooters and they are a hard sell in the US even at $5k or $6k for a Bergman or Tmax. I chalk it up to just culture. The CE04 is only going to sell to a 70 year old in The Villages (Florida).
Too costly 😢😢😢
NIce for $6000
Should sell well with the California eco-nuts & nowhere else
I live in Bay Area, Ca while there are tons of EVs, I hardly see E motorcycles on the road.
Said like someone who has never been to California
So you get AR glasses but the lamest and bulkiest passenger foot pegs? I guess ppl will just take them off anyways I guess
E CYCLE
NOT MOTOR CYCLE
Far too expensive. Not very practical. Peculiar appearance. Doesn’t go far enough. Difficult to find a company that will insure it.
Not for me thanks.
Way too expensive for what's it's capable of. And that is something you can only use as a local commuter/run-about. Basically this scooter has the same problem as an electric car. And BEV's are horrible for the environment. Ever see a lithium mine or have to dispose of a lithium battery pack?
Both my EVs can go some distance. My Bentley Continental S(converted by Lunaz)has a range of 300 & will/has beaten Schmeslas😂. & my new Lucid Sapphire has a range of 427 miles & will assuredly beat any Schmesla plaid ❤🖕😂. I ❤❤❤EV, but vehemently hate tesla. The cars themselves are Fugly AF & passionately HATE Musk.
When my Continental S was petrol? It only received 9mpg on a 24 gallon tank! Before it was converted, bought in London. I drove it 4 tanks full 216 miles ish & in the 🇬🇧they don't go to illegal wars to steal oil like muriKKKa does. To refuel ? It ran $210 each time! Btw most countries do not bomb tf out of other sovereign nations for their gas hogging consumption "needs"/WANTS
It's perfect for the "I support the current thing" crowd.
@@elliottlee1050all those cars and still have time to type all that, damn...
Ever seen LA or Shanghai smog? Yeah, gas is so much better, totally a long term solution to our transportation needs!
The range is terrible. And it's unreliable. Owners mentioned that it has been recalled TWICE for motor issues!
Awful! Well done BMW!
For $12,000, I'll just buy a car. For $5,000, I'll buy a toy like a scooter.
Grille pain 🍞 🍞 🤮🤮🤮👎👎👎