Battlestar Galactica | Saul Tigh Has a Hunch
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- When Saul Tigh has a hunch you best go with it.
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That weird temporary moment when BSG became a farcical sitcom for an episode.
Make no mistake, I love it, but it's bizarre.
sublime
I believe Olmos has a director credit for this episode. Could explain the sudden change. I absolutely loved this episode for the comedic timing of scenes. I also think they were getting pushback from the TV execs asking for more levity in BSG
@@Erroangelos Yup, and the first thing they did when the execs asked for something happy was to write the accident on the flight deck where all the pilots get blown up.
Writers took some liberties here, and it was fun.
They were giving us a break . . .
When Gaius Baltar is the most calm and sensible man in the room, things have gotten supremely fracked up.
Yep
Too bad he didnt have the chance to complete the blood test for Ellen....that would have been an interesting reveal.
lol
Don't forget about the thermonuclear bomb for fraks sake!!!!
I was thinking the same thing.
"You've been vising my wife?"
"No! Yes...it's complicated!"
"There's a thermonuclear bomb sitting in the corner!"
Yeah - like i'm out of here - job already done
"I told you. He's been after me for YEARS!"
"WHAT!"
me : [dead] 🤣
There's cookies and punch by the door.
you mean helen?
"That's a Thermonuclear bomb for frak's sake..."
Ah, Baltar. Always the realist.
The comedic timing in this scene is perfect, they don’t often have light moments like this on BSG but when they do they really nail it.
It wasnt just the timing, it was the music that added to it all. It was almost like some comedy sketch, and the way Tigh and Adama both look at the President is just so chuckle worthy
Gaius Baltar's Laboratory Rules
#28 No arguing near the thermonuclear bomb.
You'd think that would be higher up the list.
@@roystonlodge Luckily, thermonuclear bombs are pretty hard to set off accidentally.
You can not say the same about most of the chemicals. 😉
rule nuber 5 bang every broad in the fleet..possibly some dudes
@@christopherg2347 Or people.
The irony is that there are 2 Cylons in the room! 😀
Those Cylons being Tigh and his wife.
Not so unusual.
The bigger irony is,... even the writers didn't know this until seasons later. Just making things up as they went along.
@@k1productions87 Baltar tested them both and knew that they are Cylons, but decided to keep it for himself
Right!
"YES! SHE thought YOU might be a cylon!"
"I Know..."
*Both stare at Rosilin*
Logan Mainord
Play meme clip of surprised hamster/gerbil
Holy shit, that was great!
I was looking for this particular scene from the reimagined series. Thank you.
One of those rare moments of levity... the music is so odd for the series.
It's like the show is parodying itself. Then shit got serious again.
Dave Marx that music was not there on first run
this episode was absolute gold.
As TVTropes said "the only silly episode in the whole series".
This is truly hilarious considering we later find out Saul and Ellen are Cylons
And Gaius knew Ellen was a Cylon the whole time!
@@13Xerro as well as boomer
"She was different then. I was different then."
Talk about foreshadowing.
Yes. Ellen wasn't a cow originally. She was so much better when her memories came back
There are layers upon layers upon layers to the narrative, dialogue and acting of this series. A sly mix of intelligence, good story telling, symbolism and yes: humor. God, do I miss BSG.
sci fi w/good dialogue. kind of the next stage from Firefly in a way.
Yes. If anything, this was all to show how loyal Adama was to Tigh, to excuse decisions he'd already made & bad future ones regarding him.
As a study on human failings, this series was incredible. I have trouble seeing it all first time around, but looking back, more than LOST, it seems that this was all that the series *was* ever supposed to be. Many episodes & arcs featured no one truly winning.
I know there are alot of fans that hate this episode precisely because of the sit-com slant it took, but honestly, I loved it. Much needed respite from the doom and gloom that we'd been living with up to that point. A moment to sit back and laugh at the ironic hilarity of the situation before they went back to being serious. It was great and it's actually one of my favorite episodes.
Adama thought she might be a cylon, well he wasn't wrong
Adama was right about Ellen. She is trouble.
the biggest problem of the show was Rosilin, all her fault
Cavil couldn't agree more.
Rachel Levin yup
also a cylon
She's not a Cylon, she's just bipolar . . . .
Now THAT is some space opera!
So who's a Montegue?
😉
Imagine how the series would have gone if they found out Saul and Ellen were Cylons then and there lol
someone would have had to tell the writers ;)
The fact that over half of the main characters turned out to be Cylons was one of the things that just ruined this series. It always felt to me that the writers just ran out of ideas, and failing to have new ideas, kept returning to the old 'twists' until they weren't even twists any more.
Worse, the evolution of the show ended up undermining the good first season, in an example of how bad writing can end up retroactively destroying good writing.
@@celebrim1 Ruined the series? Its literally one of if not THE best sci fi shows ever.
@@roryedward2631 It could have been. It fell apart in season 2 and never recaptured the brilliance of the first season.
saul would have killed them both, helen would want it that way, they will meet again
Saul is a Cylon and still the most loyal officer in the fleet.
in that fleet, thats not saying all that much... like swiss cheese.
as long as you dont have kids born into working spachip refineries
ITS ALMOST LIKE IT DOESNT MAKE PIE HAHA
That because Saul Tigh values Bill Adama friendship. Think about it, the Admiralty never like or trusted Tigh, but Adama gave him a chance to be his XO, cause he was his good friend.
Plus Saul never knew to be a Cylon until the nebula.
That’s the real love story. Those two. Closer than brothers, two halves of a whole - they know more about each other than their spouses, family, etc.
Of course, they were best friends the moment they met when they served aboard another Jupiter class when they were young
That’s what happens between best friends
Well said. I loved rewatching this scene for this great moment in their relationship. I kinda cheered lol.
It's hard to believe some of these guys aren't leading big sci fi feature films right now.
They got type-casted. It's why Janeway, Kirk, and Sisko's actors had only limited success after Star Trek, and why half the doctors had no real gigs asides Doctor who.
Star Trek allowed most of them to retire, start their own projects, or move behind the camera.
Not completely. Look at what happened to Axanar.
They’re not leading men, not at all. No one on this series is - women too. Just wonderful character actors and better in an ensemble.
The only three I can think of who went on to do other roles (which I consider them to be fantastic in) are Mary McDonnell, Grace Park, and Katee Sackhoff. Funnily enough, all ended up on crime shows.
My goodness look at how young they all are.
Did they really age that much over 4 years or was it part of their makeup/the show?
Jason I think it was part of the show/makeup. Seems like they’ve talked about that at events I’ve seen on UA-cam.
Tigh especially. He looks like a different person after Exodus.
I love how such a deep drama such as BSG could find a moment to interject a brief sitcom (background music and all) into itself... one of the most comical moments of the series well done all around!
What’s funny here is that Saul’s getting in adama’s face, I’m thinking “ehh well you’re a cylon bro” 🤣
This is the only seem that I ever remember being intentionally comedic in the show
A shame there weren't more, actually.
There was the "paper shortage" scene in s3e10. That was pretty funny too, although the way that played out I have a feeling it was "blooper" that they just decided to keep in the show.
Funniest moment in the entire series
Made better by the fact that Adama was right.
The "twice?" and "what?" almost kill me.
I dunno, Tigh's paper shortage comment followed by Tigh and Adama cracking up laughing might be better.
@@halwakka504 The way Tigh said that line had me in stitches before they burst out themselves.... :))
"That a thermonuclear bomb for frak sake"
- Dr. Gaius Baltar
Could that final exchange between Adama and Tigh be the origin of the expression, “Bros before...,” well, you know.
1:21 EJO was totally trying not to laugh there
Lol
"thats a thermonuclear bomb for fraks sake"
Ah. The fledgling early days of season one, when Galactica was experimenting with sitcom comedy in the plot..... Thank god they 86'ed that by the end of season one!
I wish I could get my mind erased and rewatch this series from the beginning!
Timeless!!!
I'm not a Cylon! You're a fraking Cylon!
I was in tears watching the lab scene, HILARIOUS.
Nothing ever did come between Saul Tight and Adama. Wonder if Ellen knew when she and Saul died on first Earth that her husband would one day become the loyal dog of a guy who was 2,000 years younger than him? lol
At the end of the day it's all Roslin's fault.
Roslin’s body language and facial expressions when she says to Ellen “oh yes I do! Yes I do” is just perfect. I fraking love Roslin, and Mary McDonnell did a brilliant job portraying her
I love when they put humor in a serious show. This cast does it so well.
The general mood of Galactica is so bleak I forgot there was some good comedy on it. Fun fact, Ellen was indeed a cylon
Hire the people that wrote this episode and make a BSG comedy series.
"... I know."
That whole exchange in the lab is gold.
3:19 For a second I thought the second Viper was a CIWS turret that shot down the Raider.
A couple of bow mounted CWIS turrets certainly wouldn't have gone astray
@James Harding it's not a party if you don't invite Arty
I can't what I'm realising here. Gaius Balter is the most sane and least cringey person in the room. My Gods!
Kate Vernon was still so frackin' hot here.
"...after me for YEARS."
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SPOILER ALERT
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But she's a toaster
I wonder how many takes that one scene took? 😂
This serious grows on you... Watch it years later when I saw the pilot then bought the entire serious and binged watched it...very well done series well written well acted... Just superb
I had a hunch she was a cylon right from when she first appeared, I wasn't expecting to be right.
Her intro was designed to make viewers think she was one in order to make you feel the sense of uncertainty and confusion everyone on that fleet must have been feeling knowing any one of them, even friends they know and trust, could actually be a machine working in secret to kill them.
That was during the period when the characters (and audience) thought Cylons could look like anybody, or replace people with Cylon copies. That wasn't actually true.
This was the best show ever on TV. I'm not kidding. It was the justification for television. It just took a long time to come.
And to think about it. Saul and Ellen were key members of the Final Five!!!
The first two minutes can be summed up in one word: Women.
You can't blame women for what men do. Or are you saying men are too weak to control their own behavior?
@@Josh_Fredman But bother their actions were being pushed by women... Both women had both men reacting... Doesn't mean they're weak. But both ideas and actions became things BECAUSE THE WOMEN BROUGHT IT UP...
One eyed Saul > Two eyed Saul
Shut yer FRAKKIN' MOUTH!
**evil one eyed stare**
If I didn't know better, that initial conversation could easily have been lifted from a private game of Among Us...
I love that scene like a sitcom.
I hate to be that guy; but gods the writing was so much better in the earlier seasons
This is the most human thing any of them could do... 🤣 just went Days of Our Lives...
Ahh classical family meeting at christmas.
Wouldn't launching the vipers (or some of them) be standard procedure in this situation? Why Adama or Lee didn't think of that?
They already had Vipers out, shadowing the Raider. When the Raider broke for the fleet, it surprised the Viper pilots that had been shadowing it and was going to outrun them- they wouldn't have been able to catch up in time to stop it from ramming Galactica. It was Tigh's call to launch the reserve Vipers that saved the ship because since they were coming from Galactica they were in a position to get between it and the Raider, and shoot it down.
You don't launch every fighter you have unless you think you're going to need them; besides being bad tactics it's a waste of resources which the fleet can ill afford. This whole encounter was just one Raider pretending to be damaged, drawing them out and making them hesitate and doubt until it saw an opening to strike. Now you can certainly question whether they should have just blown it up at the start and called it a day, but they didn't, and the situation being what it was at that moment Tigh sensed that the enemy was going to make a move, and made the decision to act first.
@@zorak950 Uhmmm, I always wonder if That Specific Raider was Scar himself on his first death Run.....
Hessley Laurent I thought the episode where we 1st learn of scar is before Ellen comes back.
@@juliankirby9880 You could be right and I'm wrong, but I'm not going to back check :-), Can you.
@@TwiceStruck its hinted that Scar might been the Raider Starbuck kills and then hijacks early in season 1 as it seemed to hold quite a grudge against Starbuck in particular
This (the DNA scene) was the most comical scene of the entire series! 🤣
1:53 the jig is up.
God I have scrutinized this scene as best as I could a hundred times, trying to find some kind of fail, I am pleased to report that there is none.
These actors are god like material, Colonel Tigh and Commander/Admiral Adama will for ever and always remain an example of people that were acted to perfection, my god you'd never believe it if you saw them in real life that they actually are just normal people.
Class A acts boys, best show in the galaxy.
Here we see a very rare creature, so scarce in its habitat that it can almost be mistaken for being out of place. The battlestar galactica “funny” music.
HUMANITY
“We’re not very good at this”
Armando Bailey !
Adama is like the dad I wish I would not have had but the one that I most would need to set me on the straight path. Thank you Edward James Olmos for such a power portrayal of what a leader is and goes through
Hear hear. He's such a formidable actor, i don't know if he really gets the acclaim he deserves. Olmos is utterly outstanding in this show, imo.
A modern sci-fi media screen legend, honestly.
The look they give roslin at 1:55 lmao
Really sloppy how one fighter got all the way to Galactica and only a lucky shot stopped it. Where were the point defenses? Do these huge windows have no closing shutters?
1:55 I love how both of them are looking at the president.
Question: what was that part of the ship the raider was going for? It looked like either an auxiliary hangar or an observation room with windows.
Yeah it's the observation deck. It's one of the few rooms with windows onboard the Galactica. It was there for recreational purposes for the crew.
I am not sure how much damage it could have done hitting an observation deck. It almost certainly would have had armor behind it and been far from critical systems, fuel or ammo given that it would be an obvious weak point to target.
@@Elthenar One questionable thing is that even though the alert fighters shot down the Raider, its debris would have still smacked into the observation deck...
1) The President WAS right about Ellen.
2) On THIS show, this little slapstick/Vaudevillian episode was great to see.
Saul and Adama scenes are some of the most powerful in this series. Perfect showcase of the relationship between a CO and an XO. Mutual respect, understanding, and a genuine friendship behind it all.
so say we all
Ugh, im a scientist myself and i hate it when drama breaks down in my lab. Personally ive gotten fired twice telling ppl to get the F@#$ out of my lab.
For such a serious and oftentimes depressing series, with lots of heavy overtones, it's nice that they could do the odd bit of comedy from time to time! Particularly with Baltar 😊
1:55 Comedy fucking gold
Both turn to grill Roslin like "This diabolical bi-"
The whole music and scene is so utterly at odds with the atmosphere of the later series its hilarious.
Best bromance ever.
When I was a kid I wanted to be like Captain Picard.
When I became a man, I dared to one day aspire to be like Admiral Adama
This scene feels one of a kind within BSG. The sheer level of comedic interaction, misunderstandings, etc.
I forgot about that scene. Absolutely hilarious. Top notch farce.
A hunch? Isn't launching fighters standard procedure?
We know Laura hates cylons but why would she believe one when he told her that Adama was a cylon
Baltar must of knew that Ellen was a cylon the whole time
that is why the Glatica was the only survivor because of its leaders .
Galactica can take a direct hit from a nuke. I don't think getting rammed by a single Cylon would do much damage.
I don't like this kind of music. And scene. It's different then the rest of the show
The man, the myth , the legend. Saul Tigh.
For what is a serious plot point, it sure seemed a lot like comedy.
The closest to a comedic episode that a series this dark could have.
so its all the presidents fault!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, BTW, Ellen was a Cylon. So was Tigh.
This whole scene is awkward but I love it 😂
The entire time Lee is looking back & forth at everyone like a surprised meerkat. Perfection. That, and Baltar's "Oh, lovely" when Ellen shows up.
I love the comedy in this moment the music is just all good
I laughed when Adama said Saul saved the ship. From one Raider? How many times had the Galactica been struck by missiles from basestars before that? We're supposed to believe that a suicide run by one raider into a flight pod would destroy or even cripple Galactica?
Someone once said that drama was ordinary people, in extraordinary circumstances, and comedy was extraordinary people, in ordinary circumstances. This is both.
Let's not argue anymore.
I am alone
Cannot be two.
I nor care about human positions, power, or money.
I live in my time
And
I will return to my location.
At that time, there was no Asian.
Asian is made on Earth.
Asians have no memory of space and memory.
Delete this article.
But remember If you go in the wrong direction.
All disappear. Origin.
Do not forget that responsibility.
Humans must be rebuilt and prospered.
Humans are the last hope.
The last seed of life.
Galactica is a friggin carrier, so they should've plenty of anti-fighter armory. This cylon raider was shadowed by vipers and still they nearly weren't able to shoot him down before impact? How incompetent are they?
I'm not sure what they were so worried about one Cylon fighter crashing into them. The Galactica tanked nukes with most of her armour removed! One little Cylon fighter would not have fared well against Galactica's hull
This is the most Buffy moment of BSG
"lovely", Baltar is the best
wait can someone remind me how he got his eye back?
The irony of two Cylons getting angry about suspecting that Adama is a Cylon. LOL!
How men settle arguments