Netgear Releases Nighthawk M5 5G MR5200 - Global Unlocked Mobile Hotspot For all Carriers
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Netgear, after launching the AT&T focused Nighthawk 5G Pro almost a year ago, finally released its unbranded and unlocked version called the Nighthawk M5 5G that is available without going through AT&T.
This new version, model number MR5200, has the additional support for cellular bands that make it flexible for use on all three major carriers. But, at $699.99, it's significantly more expensive than the AT&T version.
The Nighthawk M5 5G has been available for pre-order for several months, and is now shipping.
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Thanks Chris (and Cherie), great info.
I bought my Nighthawk MR1100 hotspot for $80 almost 3 years ago on an eBay auction and am still on an old AT&T Unilimited plan. It works beautifully
@MrPacMan36 Are these plans sold separately through ATT? Just call and ask for a hotspot plan?
Were you allowed to use hotspot when you use your sim in your phone?
Hello. I've been running this hotspot for a week now and I'm pleased with the performance. It runs pretty cool, I've heard complaints that previous models overheat but this isn't the case with mine. It's connecting on B66 with a TMobile SIM and picks up well. I have the Netgear 2x2 MIMO patch antenna in my bag and that helps in areas with poor coverage. I am in Central Valley area so the towers here are older equipment so can't speak to it's performance with latest stuff. I really wish at this price point it had 2 SIM slots so I could have both T-Mobile & AT&T SIM cards in it at the same time, so I wouldn't have to keep track of where a 2nd SIM went. I guess I will tape the 2nd SIM inside back cover for now. I like also that it has a "guest WiFi" feature and that I can turn off 2.4 GHz WiFi which none of my devices really need anyhow.
Is it still working reliably?
How do you connect to these different "bands" *sorry n00b and understanding all the terms. You mentioned connecting to B66..how do I access different options to try?
I wonder if this will get band locking feature. I found that many locations in Colorado and Wyoming near national parks really benefit if you can connect to high band, instead of whatever modems want to connect too.
HERE IN PH FARM AND BEACH AREA, M1 has lasted 4 yrs and dropped2- feet into field 6x lol. No antenna under $100 beats it by itself. We have no 5g proposed here. No telephone lines. the tower is over 50ft high hill down in valley 2 miles away. So just love it
Hello is PH Philippines? Thanks
My night hawk keeps giving me problems overheating had to remove battery. The previous 1 you showed at end.
Great review, I’ve debating getting one and you saved me, going to wait for future products!
I hope waiting for The Future doesn't take too long 😀
that thing don't cost 700 bucks to manufacture. rip off
but the research, parts and equipment required to build this AND netgear has to make profit, i am sure it's close to 700.
@@serran0669 maybe, a lot of places mark up their products for a lot of money so it's probably a 30-40% profit per sale
@@juicebx283 which is pretty normal within the tech industry. Most tech companies have around 50% profit, so it makes sense that they would mark it up. Of course there are exceptions, such as fairphone, but I wouldn't count them, mainly because they aren't very large
So is your iPhone but there you are buying one lol
@@deepsilencersmd7126 huh? I have never bought an apple product in my life
For me, might as well wait 6-12 months to see what ATT does on rolling out mid-band C band 5G, which they haven't even started yet as of 1/22 thanks to the FAA. I've had a Cricket (AT&T MVNO) 5G K92 and AT&T low band 5G (yes it says "5G" next to the signal bars) is SLOWER than their 4GLTE, so I turned OFF 5G to get better speed. Now, I live 7 miles from downtown, and TMO has 5G n41 mid-band 5G there, I get400-500 Mbps down when shopping downtown, but where I live only low-band TMo. 5G which is garbage just like ATT. Let's just say, there's working on it. It's definitely worthwhile future-proofing if you're out to buy a new phone, but don't expect fast 5G unless you live in a larger city. Out in the country, only expect 4GLTE until somewhere between 2022-2025. It's a race between VZ, TMO and ATT to see who delivers quickest, but I would bet dollars to doughnuts they'll all take about the same amount of time to deliver, so you may want to hold off on a 5G hotspot until you're sure which carrier delivers "REAL 5G" (they should just put a 5GR sign next to the signal bar). And the easiest way to tell around here....just call the local Walmart and ask the guys in the electronics dept., who sell them all, and here's another tip (I know the cell phone companies won't like me for saying this): They ALL give you at least 7 days to return your new 5G phone if it "doesn't quite work the way I expected 5G to be....." That right there is the #1 reason the salespeople at Walmart will at least try to be honest with their opinion.....
I’m actually really happy with the mr5200. I have it planned with an unlimited first net hot spot plan and usually it Is at 150-190 mpbs.
Where did you get your unlimited plan thru ?
@@joseerives3459 I got it thought AT&T. I am a police office officer and I qualify for their FirstNet program which means they give me an unlimited phone, tablet, and hot spot device. (Non throttled)
@@johnnyacosta4194 have you tried using it for gaming? .. like gaming in PC or PS4 ..
@Kyle G All the time. I use it with my Xbox series X and Ive never noticed lag or issues with gaming.
@@johnnyacosta4194 thanks for the info .. planning to get it once i move from a new apartment .. planning to drop my spectrum internet plan 🤣
Just purchased an unlocked M1...need to try that out first. For $700 I'd probably go with a Pepwave MK1, at least for now.
very limited on bands and is only LTE...
Any idea if you can get the AT&T version activated on a LTE only SIM for the old Granfathered Unlimited Plus folks? i know AT&T hasnt flipped 5G access on for us and rumors indicate AT&T is trying to move people off the old plans for the 5G. I can do without the 5G, I have the M1 but im interested in using the newer chipset in this model for the bigger upload speeds. i'm getting conflicting reviews if this one can be used in a "LTE only" mode or not.
It can be used in LTE only mode if you swap a SIM into it, just don't upgrade at AT&T itself if you purchase a device - as that can impact your plan.
Ok got a question; If I use a 4x4 MIMO antenna on my RV, and can only connect (2) to the Nighthawk M5, is there a way to, or does it makes sense to use the other (2) cables for a "local" antenna for the remaining 2 MIMOs on the M5? As in, connecting a blade antenna to each cable right next to the M5? Thanks again for your informative content.
There are only 2 antennas ports. The other two are internal and you can’t attach external antennas to them. If you want 4x4 external MIMO look to routers not hotspots.
What is a simple 2x2 MIMO antenna option for this? I bought an MR5200, and looked at the Netgear patch antenna but it doesn't seem to cover 5G frequencies. Does that matter? I'd like to be able to take road trips and window mount or magnetic roofmount something to get better signal. Don't want to permanent mount, want to be able to move among vehicles. Also the Netgear patch antenna I've seen y'all say is $30-ish on Amazon, it's more like $50. Perhaps a pair of the weBoost magnetic mount fins would work, but similarly not sure about the frequency bands.
The Netgear MIMO antenna I think you're referring to is covered here (indeed, has shot up in price): www.rvmobileinternet.com/netgear-mimo
For our full guide to selecting antennas: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellularantennas, plus our gear center has filters for finding what you seek.
If you're a MIA member, do follow up with any questions our team can assist with in the forums or private FB group.
Yeah the new device isn't really worth it, and I bought an open box MR5100 on eBay for $380 dollars which was a bit more than what I would have paid for but as an LTE modem, it is really good and also having 5G mmwave, I was able to get 800mbps down on WiFi 6 while at a theme park (Busch Gardens FL) which had 5G+ coverage. But as for a 5G device, it isn't worth $500 or $700 dollars. I'm holding off for upgrading when they have an x65 modem one.
Did you get the New M6 pro with X65 modem? what's the big difference between the m5 and m6 is it significant?
@@euphoricmonk Good Questions. Everyone on this channel probably has all the questions that the users want to know... 😀 Myself included.
@@1Patient Well I asked the YT poster what's the difference between M5 vs M6 and he said he'll only post it in the "member chat rooms" geez.
M1 does not support 802.11AX, the M5 does.
Purchased to use with a Cricketwireless 100 GB plan for $55 that supports 5G. Umm, it is not on their authorized device list. Kind of defeats the purpose of an unlocked device. Wondering if AT&T will support ??????
Thanks bro
Hey there, thanks for the video. I have a T-mobile hotspot already. Would I have to call T-mobile and have them activate this device once I swap my SIM into it? Or will it just work? Thanks!
Depends on your data plan with them. Some of them are not SIM-swappable, others are.
Will AT&T and netgear update the Mr51005G for c band n77?
It theoretically could be a firmware update, as to if AT&T / Netgear will is yet to be seen.
Wife and I are retired. We'd like to connect better in remote areas for safety plus some downloading of maps etc. Would the netgear 4g work for this plus save $$$? You'd still need a data plan right? Any suggestions on that as we only use it about 6 weeks and a few weekends out of the year.
I personally wouldn't go with one this expensive for a weekender type trip. 4G LTE is going to be more than sufficient for you.
Would recommend starting with our overview guide at www.rvmobileinternet.com/overview and then also our part-timers guide at www.rvmobileinternet.com/part-time
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Will do, thanks.
I have a at&t lte hotspot 4 g , and seems to lose connection alot lately had since 2017 when i got unlimited , will 4 g still work when 5 g comes along or will all our hotspots have to be replaced? Also any idea how to tell if 5 g is in your location?
LTE will still be viable for a long while. You can check their coverage maps.
Im running a mr1100 on a old att unlimited plan, if I was to swap my sim into a mr5100 will I have 5g access without effecting my plan? I'll do it myself and not have the store do it.
AT&T hasn't turned on 5G for most legacy plans.
The other downside is that it is a NetGear. I have the 4G version and the only way I can use it continously is to remove the back, turn it upside down and blow a fan on it while it is charging. If I don't do that, it stops charging and gives a battery heat warning. Even in 70 degree weather. I don't have that problem with my Verizon Mifi which is a year older, has a grandfathered unlimited plan for $70 a month and has basically replaced our cable carrier, allowing me to work remotely and stream a couple of hours of TV everyday if I wish. Thus, the Netgear is the backup. If I'd known about the heat problems with their battery setup, I would have made a different choice.
That's not an issue we've ever heard of with the Netgear Nighthawk.. so it's likely isolated to your unit, or related to a weak signal at your location that is causing your unit to have to extra hard. Or you may have a defective one.
Its definitely an issue. We never use the battery unless absolutely necessary. We just have it powered via USB cable all the time.
They are wanting over 1K for it now on Netgear!
I need help. I am trying to find a good mobile hotspot for when I'm in the car with the kids. I need something that can handle phones, tablets, and a Roku on the car tv. (Not all at the same time) I'm looking at the NetgearNighthawk LTE and Franklin T10 MobileHotspot. Which is the best one?
The Nighthawk is high end AT&T LTE device. The Franklin T10 is a low end T-Mobile device. Very different. Our guide to selecting hotspots: www.rvmobileinternet.com/hotspots
Will this be able to use a Cell Sim plan instead of hotspot plan? As in a Magenta plan ?
This devices required a plan designated for data devices.
is this great for going out of the country? my brother deployed and i would like to get him something that he can bring around and have great connections
It is global and unlocked.
help! I have a BYOD T-Mobile sim card 100GB, with the unlocked MR5200 M5 router and the network is only registering as AT&T when I have selected T-Mobile APN. I've worked with both Netgear and T-Mobile tech service and have gotten no assistance. It shows connected but no internet.
Most versions of 100GB T-Mobile plan will only work with the M2000.
is it possible to get an AT&T plan for this hotspot that is prepaid? I can't seem to find any information on it.
Yes.. AT&T offers a prepaid data plan, more can be found here: www.rvmobileinternet.com/att-prepaid
Does this work in places where there is no cell service? I’m getting ready to move or RV to a spot with no service and I need WiFi…
This requires signal on your cellular carrier to get service - it's a cellular device.
Would google fi service work? That is a service that uses t-mobile or US Cellular . Does US Cellular work .
You would want to compare their frequency bands with the specs.
I have a MR1100 that I purchased from AT&T. Can I use a Verizon service SIM card on this model? How would I know if its "locked" or "unlocked"?
AT&T devices are sold locked, so you'd have to unlock it. And the Nighthawk is missing key frequency bands for Verizon - so it's not recommended.
So, if I bought this do I just go to any carrier, buy a unlimited plan and I’m good to go?
Here's our top pick data plans: www.rvmobileinternet.com/planpicks - use the 'hotspot' filter to find plans available for this type of device.
Now they are selling for $800. Do you think going with the 4g M1 Hotspot is still a viable option? Will it be obsolete soon?
The M5 is now obsolete and has been replaced by the M6 Pro. The MR1100 is still a viable high end LTE device, it does not support 5G.
I can’t help but think the chip manufacturing issues are pushing up a lot of electronics.
Indeed - a lot of chips are getting hard for manufacturers to source, and that is pushing prices up.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I bought a $300 phone that gets speeds that often amounts to two or three times faster than the Nighthawk M5 and my phone works great as a hotspot with all of the devices that I use in my remote work, it seems to me there's not really a use case for a device like this when an Android phone supports way more bands and gives faster data speeds and cost a lot less. The only possible strength I see is that this thing supports external antennas but the external antennas produce slower download and upload speeds in areas that already have good coverage and only marginally improve the signal in areas where there is a weak signal. I bought the Nighthawk M5 and M6 but neither one is consistently as fast and stable as my $300 Android phone when used as a hotspot.
There are pros and cons to hotspots, routers and smartphones - covered in this guide/video: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-devices
It doesnt seem to have the important n## 5G bands for tMobile though.
What band are you thinking of? It supports all the 5G bands T-Mobile is currently using.
Can you get the AT&T and flash it with the standard Netgear version for sim free device?
Both versions use SIM cards.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter The term Sim free, means you are free to use the device with any Sim instead of being locked to one supplier.
Flashing, is to install new firmware.
Unlocked is the term used to refer to using a device with any carrier. The AT&T Nighthawk can be unlocked by AT&T or unlocking services. But it lacks key frequency bands for use with some other carriers.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter U.K. and US are separated by a common language.
Will this work with a T Mobile SIM?
Will it use the SIM's unlimited data usage or does it use the limited hotspot usage on the SIM plan?
T-Mobile Mobile Internet data plans should work fine in this device.
Will work depending on your location tried connecting with 100gb plan and kept getting disconnected because towers in my location didn’t support 5G from what I was told by support.
Any clue what is the best carrier for this device? Would it work with Verizon?
I seen a guy say you can put your SIM card from your phone in it and it will go off your phones unlimited data. I don’t know if this is true or not. But then you wouldn’t be able to use your phone while gaming or watching HULU. So I don’t really see that as a viable option either if it does work. And T-Mobile only offers up to 100gb of data per month. So that’s not realistic either. I’m very confused on how to just get unlimited data on a mobile hotspot. I’m a truck driver and I’m having a hard time figuring out my best option.
Ordered, don’t forget tax adds another $70, but Netgear runs 10% discount, looking forward testing it with Verizon 5G unlimited grandfathered plan
Looks like it has interesting network offloading feature, will test how it works with Starlink hand-over over ethernet. Internal antennas seems much stronger than 8800 or it might 5G-sub6 advantage
Did this work with Verizon?
@@volantdronesolutions2866 yes, 5G works nicely with Verizon unlimited data plan (grandfathered)
Thanks for your video, my opinion about this router is very bad option at this moment... I have this new M5 and the old version M1 that give me a lot better results for half the price. I have a lot more latency and less speed in wifi 6 then I have with my old model M1. I don´t know what Netgear did this time with this modem but I really hope Netgear fix this someday with a software firmware update because in this moment I am using the old version because better results and is only wifi 5 wen all my gear are already wifi 6, the new one M5 is a brick in my desk in this moment. I am very unhappy with this order.
I just got this and am a bit unhappy, too. My new iPhone 13 has significantly higher 5G download speeds (typically 2x) and somewhat higher upload speeds than this hotspot. Ping on this is also greater. I need a second hotspot and will try the older version. Thanks for your info.
@Dwen do you have any updates on your experiences between the M1 & M5?
@@onemileattatime2642 I bought one of the old ones on eBay a while back and then returned it - its speed was the same or a bit slower than the newer model. Even though 5G just went live on a local tower, my iPhone is still much faster (2-3x) than the router. I have no idea why. I’ve checked all the settings.
You should do a review of the Arris NVG558HX that Verizon offers with the LTE Business Internet.
That plan isn't generally available to consumers and micro businesses - so is outside the scope of what we cover.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter actually they DO NOT require 10 smartphone lines for that plan, that part is incorrect. I just got the plan about a month ago and I don’t even have 10 lines total on my account.
It's in their fine print on the plan - if you're MIA, please do follow up in member spaces about this.
Has anyone tried to STREAM / BROADCAST on it using UA-cam? I am a social media broadcaster -- would this work SMOOTHLY if I am on AT&T business plan w/this added as a second "line?" I want to know if I can LIVE MULTI-STREAM w/it as a social media video influencer?!
If you have an AT&T business account, you should look at the Nighthawk M6/M6 Pro instead, which are newer and more capable devices.
As for the ability to live-stream, these devices can support that as long as you are in a location with sufficient bandwidth and have a sufficient data plan.
But do you still have to pay a cell phone provider a monthly fee for data after spending $700 on this device, or is it now unlimited data?
Yes, you would also need a data plan for cellular access.
Is the M6 Pro a future proof choice?
Yes, we consider the X65 chipset in that device to be future proof for AT&T's network. Catch our recent industry modem update video - www.rvmobileinternet.com/5g
Do you have hotspot access unlocked from ATT carrier to use this device? Or it will work without that?
Not sure exactly what you are asking? You do need a data plan authorized for hotspot devices.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter for example i have ATT internet in my phone but i cannot turn on hotspot. If i put my save SIM card in that device. Will that work?
You need a data only plan for a hotspot device. Phone plans don't work in these.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter I have one more question. My main concern is latency and speed. Does Netgear provide better latency and consistent internet as compared to smartphone hotspot, in terms of playing multiplayer online games while driving across the country?
Many things impact cellular data performance: www.rvmobileinternet.com/performance
$600 bucks well spent - buy four - one each for the RV, the Yacht, the Truck and the Car.
Has anyone confirmed that it works well with a Verizon hotspot plan? Verizon is finally offering more data tiers for hotspots
It supports bands for Verizon.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter do you know if it just supports version 5g UW and LTE similar to their inseego device? 99% of the 5g data I use on my iPhone is sub 6 5g
We share the carrier's frequency bands in this guide: www.rvmobileinternet.com/four-carriers
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter would a hotspot plan use different frequencies than a cell plan?
Frequencies are dependent on the device usually. Some plans by the carriers exclude different flavors of 5G however.
Works with mint mobile?
Mint Mobile provides smartphone plans, not data plans compatible with hotspots.
What's the benefit of this over a pepwave. Seems like you're almost there at that price range. Might as well spend a couple hundred more
Our guide to hotspots vs routers; rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-devices
Can anyone explain the incredible high cost of this device that couldn't cost more than about $20 to make?
At the moment 5G modem modules are selling for $300 - $700. So if the internal guts of a hotspot like this costs that much, it certainly costs a lot more than $20 to build.
if it costs $20 why don't you just make it yourself?
How much do you pay for it monthly?
The device itself is a single upfront fee. The monthly data costs depends on the data plan you use with it. Here's our top picks: www.rvmobileinternet.com/planpicks
Anyone know if you can use a Mobley sim in it?
You can (www.rvmobileinternet.com/mobley) - but it would not get 5G.
I want Verizon to update There unlimited data plan even if they releasing a more expensive one
@Dave N In your Opinion when they are the most popular one in the USA and I’m only paying them because they have the best service
@Dave N Even if they don’t have the best service in every location of the United States well from where I live they do have the best service
Does this work with a Verizon hotspot plan?
just buy a second hand old phone that has 5g capabilities and use that as a hotspot, way cheaper and almost as good plus you always have a back up phone with you.
Most phone plans have capped hotspot data, and phones aren't always a reliable source of internet as a home internet replacement (our audience) - more: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-devices
700 bucks. Nope.
Freaking technology is too expensive :(
I'm with AT&T and can only get this MR5200 to connect to 4G+ when adding the following APN settings:
APN Name: ATT Broadband
APN: phone
PDP: IPV4V6
PDP Roaming: IPV4
Authentication: None
Username: (blank)
Password: (blank)
It will NOT connect to 5G. Do you know the proper APN settings to have this connect to AT&T's 5G network? I am in a 5G area here in Florida, and I got a new 5G sim card from AT&T just for this device (AT&T thinks its for a cell phone). I'm on the older AT&T Unlimited Plus Multi Line which says it has 5G. I also placed the MR5200 by the window.
Hopefully this device isn't band locked from AT&T's 5G network. Not sure why since Netgear advertises it as an unlocked 5G device that works best on AT&T and T-Mobile.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
AT&T Unlimited Plus hotspot lines haven't been provisioned for 5G (only smartphone Iines so far).. they are LTE only still. There's no evidence yet that they will either
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter My AT&T account thinks this is a cellular device, which is why I’m able to use over 80GB of data in the past week with zero throttling in my area. The lcd screen on the MR2200 doesn’t mention anything about my plan or hotspot data usage. Shouldn’t this “cellular” line be provisioned for 5G?
Smartphone lines got upgraded to 5G, hotspots lines did not.
wow- $700 rape!
It's a high price, for sure. But no one is forcing you to buy it... the term 'rape' might be a bit dramatic here?
Netgear Hotspots have a history of overheating, becoming too hot to touch, blooning out the metal battery case, and melting the battery compartment covers.
Why fire departments don't collectively ban them, nationwide, is beyond me.
NETGEAR HAS FALSE ADVERTISEMENTS. LTE CAT20 IS NOT WORKING. IT CAN'T EVEN HANDLE TWO LTE BANDS AT THE SAME TIME. I JUST WASTED MONEY ON THIS USELESS DEVICE.
How would you know? This hotspot (like most), only displays the primary band being used - not the ones being used in carrier aggregation. Carrier aggregation is generally 'behind the scenes'.
NOTE: regardless of this now being marketed at Netgear as an unlocked Verizon and ATT compatible / supported unit - ATT NO LONGER supports the Nighthawk M5 5G MR5200. The Nighthawk supported as of date 9.21.2022 is the 5g Pro (MR5100), the Nighthawk MR5000 and the Nighthawk LTE MR1100 and MR1100-100, per printout provided by ATT when they could not activate the 5200 purchased from Netgear. And the newer M6 which I purchased directly from ATT.
You probably got a rep that wasn't honest with you. The MR5200 version is certified for use on AT&T's network. Since this version is sold by Netgear and not AT&T, you're correct that AT&T will not provide support for the device, but they should be able to activate plans on it.