I'm an engineer and formerly cellular industry. I know all about the cellular infrastructure and technology yet you all informed me more on the end user technology needs than all the years I was inside the cell industry and all the other UA-cam videos. Plan simple understandable and practice straight truth. Plus straight forward to gimmicks demonstrations. Great advice at the end too.
I help folks with this stuff all the time. This is the first time I've seen your videos and they're a perfect mix of technical and non-technical information. Liked and subscribed. Keep up the good work!
🙋♀️ hello! What would you recommend for rural areas? Is there anything out there under 60 dollars that's decent? If you do this for a living I apologize for asking, it's just I really don't know anything about tech nowadays. Thank you very much. If this is your work I understand if you can't answer.
@@dixiecyrus8136 if you are just looking for internet and can’t get traditional service, I’d recommend looking into cellular home options. You may find a local WIFI provider if you’re lucky, but that can be hit and miss. Just go to all your local cell stores and see who has the best option. Because we’re on their UA-cam page, I would also consider becoming an aficionado if you want more directed content. Their guides are great and I suspect they would provide you with one on one advice if necessary. Have a good one!
Gosh you guys are so helpful. We are just weekenders and not full timers but being without cell service and wifi drives us nuts. We are reliant on it for emergency work situations. This is so helpful as we try to figure out how we are going to improve this. THANK YOU
just brilliant.. because it was packed full of really clear understandable information.. and also becasue your swapping back and forth was so light and fluid and lovely.. not an easy thing to do ina mostly live not overly eddited video.. really well done guys.. thank you..
Wow! Great video. We are trying to figure out how best to connect from our off-grid property in the white mountains of Arizona. This video was incredibly helpful. I subscribed.
I dont mean to be so offtopic but does anybody know a way to get back into an instagram account? I somehow lost the password. I love any assistance you can give me.
@Manuel Vivaan thanks for your reply. I got to the site through google and im waiting for the hacking stuff now. I see it takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
I'm so glad I found this video. I've been pulling my hair out all weekend trying to figure out why every time I turn our booster on, our download speed drops to nearly 1 Mbps even though our signal strength was going from weak to very good! I did notice it made our upload speeds somewhat better, but the whole point in buying the booster was to improve our crappy download speeds. I bet I've been on the roof 10 times moving this stupid yagi around. Hopefully I can still return it.
Y'all are an invaluable source for people like me in rural areas that can't get internet for nothing I spent 500 bucks on the surecall fusion 4home yagi/whip antenna and it barely gets me 1-3 MBPS and I get nothing when it storms
This video is awesome and is why we always send people to yall for information. We have a 8800L and the Surecall helps about 20% of the time which makes it worth it for us as we run our business over the internet and boondock a ton. Especially uploading videos! We just picked up the MIMO and I'm excited to start testing it as well. Thanks for the great video! Safe travels! -Thomas
Can you guys do a remote only video? It’s sounds like you’re saying the booster is best for this. I’m west of the Rockies and i think East Coast peeps have almost no idea when it comes to this application. Im very close to never camping anywhere where there’s more than 0-1 bar. Often I have to drive in towards a city to run work tasks and am hoping to do some remote working
Here's our post on boondocking that covers options: www.rvmoblieintenret.com/boondocking - so much comes down to your needs. And in truly remote locations away from cell towers, Starlink is likely your best option.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Lol I didn’t know what boone docking referred to. Ironically one of your posts talked about “coopers landing”… which is not too far from my hometown Columbia Missouri. Its funny you hear this location discussed as being somewhat remote. 😬
Good Explanation of the Differences, and the Pros and Cons. Current cellular (sim card) router doesn't accept external antenna's. All of its own antennas are internal too. I only have one tower that I can really reach, and its a little over 6 miles away. Can barely get a cell signal outside, often can't text. With a booster inside the house (with outdoor pole antenna), get decent signal inside the house. Currently have panel style outdoor antenna (as that is what the booster came with) which doesn't make sense for my situation, due to there only being one tower I can reach. I only get about 8mb download, 10-12 up (which I do need upload speeds for uploading videos and other at times). No reason to spread the signal out like a panel antenna does just for one tower. So I ordered a directional antenna which I can point to that one tower. Have yet to install it, but hope it brings in better signal/high down speeds.
First, fantastic information. But sincerest apologies for this second point, OMG you are the luckiest man I know. Holy Smokes. OK, just had to say that. And thanks again for the great content.
Hello, thanks for your answer.. In the minute 12:10 you test the jackpot connect directly to the MIMO omni directional antenna... The question is: do You test connecting this MIMO antenna to the outside antenna port on booster to see results inside?? thanks sorry for my english..
I am adding a Jetpack 7730L and a NetGear MIMO antenna. My question is - how can I elevate the antenna on a remote pole? I have noticed that even 15-20 feet can be the difference between having a signal and not having one. When I ask how I can do this, I mean with what cables. I assume I may have to convert to something low-loss to get any decent height. I am often in remote areas that are on the edge of having a signal. I have thrown a rope over a tree branch and got a data signal by hoisting my cell phone up the tree. Perhaps I just hoist the Jetpack and MIMO antenna up the pole and just rely on the range of the Jetpack for my wifi connection. I can insulate both to prevent overheating.
Great video. I watched it a couple of times to catch all the details. But can you clarify whether the advantage of multiple atennas for Rx is for hearing from multiple towers, multiple frequencies/spreading from the same tower, or just multipath of the same signal. In the ear analogy, you typically are not listening to two different sources, but the same source (signal) with different angles and characteristics. Early in the video, you speak of getting signals from "all around", but then at ~2:20 you mention picking up "the same signal but 4 slightly different versions of it". I still think I understand that booster only gives you "one version" of the signal.
Thanks for the helpful info. If I get a MIMO antenna, then hook it to a hotspot router, wouldn't I have the additional expense of cell service for the router? Maybe I'm missing something.
You guys seem so sweet. Plus I've been looking everyone for info on this stuff (I'm an IT guy an pretty good at internet research) but only paid articles seem to show up on Google. Crazy thing is, you guys just showed up way down on my recommended list, I didn't find this on a search. (You should put all the names of cellular providers in your descriptions/titles. That might help with search.)
Glad you found us. If you were searching for the topic of this video, I'm sure it would have shown up. This one has little to do specifically with the carriers themselves - and we believe in authenticity, not playing SEO games. Besides, much better when folks find us organically.
Thanks for your great videos, they are easy to understand! I have just started to research getting a WiFi signal when camping in the boonies and your videos are so very helpful.
Another great video guys! FYI - I believe you are missing the "rv" in the domain name from your example links for the weBoost and Netgear links. Existing links route to a different company.
So, the Verizon Jetpack is a booster? One that can accept hookup to a MIMO antenna (like the Netgear Mimo Antenna)? A booster amplifies the signal; however, if you get one you probably want a MIMO antenna configuration attached to it? [Per your video and the results @10:18 mins] A Verizon Jetpack only works with the Verizon network carrier? In other words, it won't work with a T-Mobile network? Are all boosters specific to networks; or frequencies? If so, how do I know what I need here on this Caribbean Island, (I have Digicel-Staysafe which operates UMTS 2100 MHz)? You mentioned that MIMO antennas are a good place to start. However, what do you hook a MIMO antenna too, (it seems you need a booster device to accept the antenna hookup)? I think you need either a booster, a cellular router, or a mobile cellular hot spot to accept an antenna hookup - Is that correct; or are their other ways to connect such an antenna to the phone? BTW: What are the differences between booster and cellular routers, (performance, etc.)? I want to express my heartfelt appreciation for your assistance. Let me know how I can return favor.
You have a lot of basic confusion on the components of a mobile internet setup. Boosters, Routers, Antennas and Hotspots are all very different things (Jetpacks are NOT boosters, they are mobile hotspot devices). Recommend starting with our getting started content - www.rvmobileinternet.com/getting-started
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter - OK. Jetpack is a mobile hotspot I believe boosters can amplify signal (increase signal quality to some degree or another); but cellular routers cannot. From your video, a MIMO antenna is superior to others (like a single antenna). I couldn't determine from your video the reason why MIMO was better - Something to do with multiple signal pickup. I understand SU-MIMO vs MU-MIMO on wifi routers, (as well as variations of MU-MIMO - multiple spatial streams of wirelessly transmitting). MU-MIMO can increase downloading (only) streams. OFDMA, on the other hand, allows multiple users with varying bandwidth needs to be served simultaneously. If I opt for a booster, I believe the type of carrier is specific for the device. In other words, will the booster handle GSM, or UMTS, or LTE.... It seems that matching a device with my country is an important issue. As far as I can tell, my country offers GSM 900/1900 MHz and UMTS (apparently a type of wide-CDMA) 2100 MHz. I am grateful for your link, and heading over there now. Thank you so very much for your time. If you had a text that took me through all of these issues I would purchase it.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter - Going through your material now. Lots of great stuff. So, if I understand things, a mobile hotspot might support MIMO - or multiple simultaneous communication with the cellular tower. Or, the phone itself may support MIMO (maybe even 4X4 MIMO). Therefore, with a MIMO hotspot or phone, you have multiple simultaneous communication packets routing its way to and back from the cellular tower. However, I think I hear you saying that boosters only communicate with one antenna or link at a time. So, in many cases, it is slower than MIMO communication. Because of this, sometimes a booster will not be much faster than nothing at all! My next question is: Doesn't anyone manufacture MIMO styled boosters?
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter - thank you! I really enjoyed your web page and terrific material! I read most of what I could there; and, get some feed back from people out on the road trying different solutions. I'm down on the Island of Dominica (not the Dominican Republic). There are many here that need an internet solution. One idea I had was to try out one of these 4X4 MIMO cat 18 routers with a 4X4 MIMO antenna... I'm still going through material and learning. Thanks again for everything. Drop me a line anytime if I can help out regarding anything medical.
ok, great video. I have an RV and really try to avoid putting more holes through the roof. Question, do the MIMO frequency penetrate fiberglass and aluminum? If so I could just put a MIMO antenna in one of the upper cabinets? Second question, I do have a Winegard roof antenna, is that MIMO? Sorry if these questions seem trivial to you but I really do not know anything about this subject... Thanks.
MIMO is not a special frequency, it's just a method to combine frequencies. And yes, there are MIMO antennas that can be used inside and work great, especially when placed in a window. One of our Top Picks: www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/netgear-mimo/
I have to say, this is very informative! This stopped me from buy a single antennae band 28 booster for my CAT 4 4g lte Huawei E5573 band 28 MiFi (jetpack). I'm using a provider who has only listed band 28 as their transceiver band so I donno about carrier aggregation with them. All their provider locked devices don't go past CAT 4 which makes me think their masts don't support carrier aggregation, is there a way of finding it out without first buying a CAT 9 - 18 device? Does using a SMA Female to Y type Dual TS9 Male Splitter combiner coming from the booster to the jetpack solve the problem of failing to use the full capacity of the jetpack or will I need a 2nd booster for the 2nd TS9 connector port on the jetpack with its own antenna?
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter thanks for that. I wanted to get some clarification on one thing about the CAT 4 jetpacks with two antenna ports, if you can connect each antenna port to an independent booster, will that solve the issue of getting low download data speeds and high upload data speeds?
It's difficult to predict what will work best for a specific location. We focus on mobile - trying to find solutions that work 'most of the time' as we travel.
Thank you for your explicit gestures it helps a lot when English is not your native language, I don’t think it is stupid I think it is very helpful Thanks
Hey there! So what would you suggest for a home? We live in Scottsdale Arizona in a good sized city. We have full bars in most all rooms except one main room where we have a single bar and choppy download speeds. Would you suggest any particular setup to increase and optimize data speeds and strength? Also, Our WiFi is via Ethernet however, the fastest plan in this neighborhood is pretty slow (no fiber yet) and so we don’t use Wi-Fi calling on our phones. Just FYI. Thanks much ! You guys do an awesome very informative job with your videos! 😊
Do these MIMO antennas only work with a hotspot from the cell company? I'm on a boat travelling between Panama, Colombia and the ABC islands and there are many different cell phone companies, most of which don't even have a hot spot device. Is there something that will boost the MIMO capability for any provider or am I stuck using a booster only? If anyone knows, please tell me, thanks!
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Hey thanks for the reply. Is there a device out there which I should buy which can work on multiple different carriers by simply plugging in a SIM card? Or something that boosts my cellphone to get a better connection and use that as a hot spot?
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter For example: Can I buy this Netgear M1 (or the new Netgear M2) and plug a Mimo directional antenna into it so I can get internet as long as I have a local carrier's SIM card plugged in?
You'll want to select an unlocked device that supports the frequency bands of the carriers in the countries you're traveling too. We have no further advice here, as we're focused on US-based travels.
I live in a valley in a rainforest in Eastern Australia, 20 km (about 12 miles) to the nearest tower (and the jungle canopy behind our house is in the way at my end.) We get barely a bar of signal in a few places outside, nothing inside. I put an 18Dbi yagi antenna outdoors on a 3 meter tall mast, I attached the mast to the eves, connected the antenna to a booster with the right bandwidth, pointed it at the tower and used a small 4db paddle antenna indoors. The booster sees 3 bars of signal coming in, the phones and other devices see 5 bars of signal from the booster. The 5 bar reading on the phone is "meaningless" in the sense that it is only showing the signal it's picking up from the booster's indoor antenna, but the three bar signal input on the booster's LCD shows the input signal the booster receives. So I'm really getting about three bars of signal indoors now. With the monsoons coming, this is going to be a much better system than the old one of leaving the phone on the roof of the car in the yard to send or receive a text and waiting until I'm going out for something to make voice calls. Reason the booster makes sense in my situation comes down to two things. One, distance, two, we're a house, we don't move around like a boat so a directional gain boost is perfect. On a boat you want good signal in all directions, so yes, a MIMO panel antennae is a good move, one with two offset dipoles is even better. You want it as high as possible. You could even hook that up to the cell booster as the outdoor antenna if you wanted, if you were cruising somewhere more than a few miles to the nearest tower. Stationary setups like cabins or rural homes that are a long way from the nearest tower would be better served with a setup like mine. *IF YOU'RE THINKING OF GETTING A SIGNAL BOOSTER, FIRST OF ALL FIND OT WHAT BAND YOUR PHONE OR MODEM IS USING BEFORE YOU BUY ANYTHING!* On iphone you dial *3001#12345#* and press the call button, then click Serving Cell Info. On android there's an app called LTE Discovery that tells you what band you're on among other things.
Excellent video and explanations. Can you use mimo with the boosters? Such as, running two yagi antennas, pointing the same direction 90 degrees rotated, feeding two separate boosters, feeding two separate indoor antennas?
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter That makes sense. I might think the antennas would have been oriented in opposite polarities of each other. I wonder if anyone with extreme RF engineering skills has been able to successfully pull this off.
Great video I use to work for cable company and people at the end of line would always so just put a booster on it. It wasn't a fix all.thing with boosters they get better signal but picture would go much worse. Back to MiMO I have good signal outside not great. I bought antenna small one. It really helped so much. I was focused on the bars from 3 to 4 back and forth. When I look at the DB I was only loosing like 2 db that would make it go down. Sometimes if it's back and forth may not be as bad as u think. Great video
I fixed data boost with a Starlink antenna, the problem is requiring Cellular voice boost in Mexico as our Cell signal is bad to our house. Would a antenna hooked to a hotspot allow our Cell to ring and achieve voice ? We have TelCel and AT&T Mexico, neither of which appear to support using our Starlink data connection for voice though work perfect for WiFI.
I work at an automaker plant, I've moved to an area in the plant that I've bad connection. What advice can you give me to help get better service?Something small that I can carrie in and out everyday, thank you
We are focused on RV and boat applications. Likely nothing you can do inside a building on your own. Building would need to install an industrial strength booster.
Just finished watching this vid and while very informative, has raised further questions for me... My husband is a truck driver (we're in Canada) and he often is in the bush...far from towers. We have invested in several cell boosters previously that have helped sometimes, while other times not...with a range in prices... I was currently looking at the webeoost drive otr (with the large cylinder antenna on a post) for his truck. However, as mentioned in the vid, comes at a whopping $650+ price tag. Now, given the info in this vid, at the times when my husband is out in the bush, a booster seems to be the best choice. But will a cheaper booster work just as good as an expensive one if it has the higher and larger antenna? Now, he also gets extremely frustrated when he is in the city or just outside the city where he should have no problem with signal and it still drops calls or he isn't able to view emails, social media, get messages, etc. Now, in these instances, would it be better to get him a mifi? Or a mifi and antenna? And if so, should he "turn off" the cell phone booster to achieve the best results? Also, is it better to have a dual band mifi instead of single? Or will it not make much difference? If the coverage service from our specific cellular provider is not as good as other providers, would using the SIM from our provider cause the same issues seen on the phone as an unlocked mifi device? Sorry I know that's a lot of questions...hopefully u can help with them all!! Thanks!! :)
You can find our full guide to cellular data performance and signal enhancing here: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellsignal. If you're a member, please do post questions you have in our member forums and we can address them there (and you also have access to our indepth reviews and field testing data from multiple solutions).
Where I am going tent camping the T-Mobile cell service is barely available because the tower is too far away. I don't any on-going monthly billing just need a device with a antenna I can point and place in a tree at my campsite so I will have better cell service. Any suggestion. I only go camping 3 or 4 times a year.
T-Mobile's long range coverage is on Band 71, which isn't covered with a booster. Your best bet is an antenna only solution, which requires antenna ports.. or trying another carrier.
Yes.. cable length definitely makes a difference. Hey, look.. we have a guide to that too :) www.rvmobileinternet.com/guides/cables-connectors-and-adapters/
Okay so I don't have a hotspot or router all I have cell phones for our Off the Grid cabin up north we get signals in certain spots if we go up the hill we get great signal my question is looks like Mimo's the way to go but is mimo only good for if you're using a hotspot router? what if you just have 5 cell phones for a family of five and you want to get good signals for phone calls and data is mimo still a better way or booster because your video was very informative talks about how mimo benefits a Wi-Fi router or SIM card router what about mimo benefiting just a cellphone with expensive antenna directional hooked up to an mimo if so what mimo works for a just a cellphone
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter OK I understood that part(u mentioned that in ur video clearly..)... how can I ampily the cel tower signal using a mimo and boost it for my cel w/out using a hotpot router... I get the concept of getting a better antenna out for a router so you can amplifier signal I do that with my Wi-Fi at my house to get a better signal and give a better signal throughout the house I have I'm trying to do the same thing but grabbing a cell phone tower and amplifying it how do I compass that with a Mimo not using a SIM card hotspot router or a data plan Hotspot, is the only option a we boost?
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter so for a off grid cabin (12v) ur sugestión would be the we bood reach cause it runs on 12v? Or the rv one but does that run on 12v... I'd prefer not to have to run inverter
What's best at a fixed location is highly dependent on that location. But for signal enhancing cell phones, a booster is your only option, but is not guaranteed to work at your location. Service at fixed-locations is not what we focus on, we focus on mobile internet options.
Great information, but I am still confused...I am in need to utilize my (Currently) Sprint Iphone7 Plus to send photos of my fish that I catch to a APP that we use for competitions in kayak fishing tournaments that rely of a system of catch-photograph- and release for the scoring system... Keeping in mind that we are sitting in the middle of large lakes while fishing, what do you recommend for a devise that I could hookup to a portable power devise (USB being the best if possible) to send my pictures to the app then?
I live in a brick house in a valley. I'm lucky to get 1 bar, especially in the summer when leaves are on all the surrounding trees, I miss calls often. What is the right booster for me? I have an AT&T (gsm) phone hooked to T-Mobile through Simple Mobile
Pepwave as a Cell repeater with no data plan. I need some direction. My wife and I are planning on full timing this summer in out ATC i.e. faraday cage RV this summer and are looking for solutions for network access. Here is what I’m looking at for a setup: Pepwave MAX BR1 Cat-20 modem using an external Parsec Husky pro 7 in 1 antenna. Along with a Weboost Drive x. So here is my question and issue. Q, Can I use the Pepwave with external antenna to pick up cell communications and have them rebroadcasted to the inside with out using a data plan on the Router i.e., using it like a repeater no data plan on router. Just having the device repeat the external signal on the inside and then use my tablet to surf the web, Not using the table to rebroadcast as a hot spot. I know that I can use the Weboost for this use but want to maximize the Mimo Tech in the Husky external antenna to maximize throughput. I would prefer not to have to have a 3rd antenna for just a repeater on the roof although that might be m only option. We would like to be able to use or cell phones inside the RV just like we would outside but as the RV blocks almost all signal we must keep the door open and be within close proximity to the opening to use are cell data. Are there any external to internal repeaters that use mimo tech inside and outside that will also pick up a large majority of the cell broadcasted bands? This is all because we want to only use the router cell plan for our PC whiles working but would also like to surf on our phones in the evening using their individual cell plans with out having to keep the door open. Thanks for the support.
Pepwave is a cellular embedded router, not a cellular repeater. The modem inside is what takes the cell signal and turned it into an internet connection - and it needs a data plan for that. You can however connect your smartphone to the router's Wi-Fi signal to benefit from it's enhanced cellular connection. For more on using cellular as an internet connection: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-resources If you're a member and have further questions, please do utilize the MIA forums so our team can further assist.
If you for example using 4x4 mimo router and quad mobile antenna, connect 2 antenna cables directly to router, and on other 2 add signal boosters befor connecting them on other 2 ports, would you have download and upload speed increased simultaneously?
From a fellow cruiser looking for a straight forward simple solution, you made my day with the hands on comparison. Great job on cutting through the hype.
I'm confused about what I should look for for my situation. I live in an area where we have one tower - ATT. Found out the other day that the service for my carrier Puretalk is downgraded on that tower. Still, everything works great except for calling/receiving calls inside my home. I have to walk outside for calling services. (data works fine even in home). Should I be looking for a MIMO, or booster ? Also, Puretalk says that if I purchase a booster it should be 900/1950 gsm. I don't know what that means exactly.
I have a netgear m5. After using a directional antenna the internal antennas do not seem to be working correctly there after, have you seen this issue?
Would you recommend either of these options for isolated locations in the mountains. I have grandparents that live remotely and experience terrible cell phone service due to a lack of towers in the area. I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the matter, very informative content! thanks
It's hard to say for a specific location what will work best without testing gear at the location. We are a mobile internet channel for RVers and boaters.
New to full time RVing. Purchased a Pepwave Max BR1 MK2 cellular router. Using an AT&T sim with just the blade antennas that comes with the router I'm getting impressive download and upload speeds. I installed a Poynting 5 way MIMO antenna on the roof of our RV and was super disappointed with it, as the download and upload speeds dramatically decreased. I've checked and double checked my cable connections to the router, used the little adapters for the wi-fi cable connections, and everything looks good. The antenna is not mounted near any other antenna or A/C unit, or anything that might cause interference. Is there a way to test or check the Poynting antenna to make sure it's functioning properly? I'm thinking there must be something wrong with the antenna.
If your RV isn't made of metal, sometimes the included antennas perform better due to the lack of signal loss over wiring. Also check your Pepwave settings for the bands that each setup is connecting to, that can make a difference as well. If you're a member, feel free to post in our forums so our team can further assist.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter The RV is a Grand Design, all fiberglass, rubber roof, typical 5th wheel construction. I will do a comparison with each of the antennas to see what bands they are connecting to, I will check upload and download speeds inside and outside the RV on each antenna system. I just want to be able to put my finger on what's causing the poor performance of the Poynting antenna. I'm getting a good education in LTE cellular internet. If I find out what's causing the issue I'll let you know in case somebody down the road has the same problem and needs some help. Thanks for your tip.
GREAT VIDEO! We moved to rural GA with no internet options so for the past 2 years I have been running our businesses off of 6 different Verizon devices. I ordered my second Mifi last week and have been looking for an antenna option. It's funny, everyone I have spoken to at Verizon all said there aren't antenna ports on the 8800L. You're video blew my mind because I thought I was loosing it when everyone told me there aren't ports. Thank you for the great videos!
Great video guys, such an easy explanation! I have a quick question for you, I am moving to an area with no hardwire hookup and very bad 3g/4g reception.. I can get 1 or 2 bars of 4g on the roof, I'm thinking if I were to set up a mimo antenna, put my modem in the roof space and run a data from the modem to a switch where I plan on a full Ubiquiti router/WAP setup. This would take care of my data, then for voice calls I could get a cheap booster online and use this for extending my signal into the house, as I wouldn't be using this for data it could work fine. Does this sound like the best option? Thanks guys
I only have a smartphone, so no way to connect mimo antenna. Could I not run 2 complete and separate boosters so the smartphone could "listen" with the internal Mimi antennas? I know that could get pricey, but would it work?
I have the Netgear MIMO antenna you are testing, and I see the same results. Close to double the download speed of my boosted single antenna. My question is....could I add a booster on each antenna cable out of the MIMO before connecting to the Jetpack to get even faster speeds?
There is so much information I'm not sure which one to pick. LOL. I am trying to work on the road because we are full-time rvers and I'm having a terrible time with service and speeds. What do you suggest for working on the road?
Here's our resources for working remotely over mobile internet all in one place: www.rvmobileinternet.com/working-remotely If you're a member and would like additional guidance, please do post in our forums so our team can assist.
In areas where you have almost no signal or none at all, can you use both a booster and a MIMO at the same time? The jetpack by itself is not getting any signal and I was hoping one or both of these solutions in tandem would allow my 8800L to get signal
The 8800 is the top Jetpack right now. Every location is different, so we can't know what specifically will work for you. However, about 80% of the time an external MIMO antenna will work better than a booster. See the guide in the description for more details.
How do I use one of those MIMO antennas if I don't have a hot spot hockey puck thingy for it to plug into and I'm using my phone cell as a hot spot and I want to be remote?
There are M2M boosters out there, but they are very low power (wireless boosters directly hooked up are too powerful). They can work in some situations.
Good info, thank you. In the mimo vs booster cost discussions it seems to always be "$30 vs $500". The jetpack purchase and service costs are ignored. Or am I missing something?
Yes, the vid was 99% technical but there was a somewhat narrowly covered "cost" element too as I recall which was typically misrepresented. 13:30 for ~twenty seconds.
All of the prices mentioned in that segment are general price ranges for antennas and boosters - topic of this video. Check out our gear center (www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear) for specific options, including modems, plans and more.
Right we have a cell booster and all it does is basically makes our home have cell service that we didn't have before. Zero service to enough service to stream on our phone. No monthly subscription and only caps are those set by the cell service provider. With MIMO I am pretty sure you have to have a cellular plan, PLUS an additional subscription for the router itself to work. So, it costs monthly to have it. And from what I understand, these only really work if towers are decently close, and boosters work for places where you're getting absolutely nothing. I still think a booster is better for our needs.
We mainly focus on cell plans with high data limits, but these guides might help you: Top Pick Data Plans (www.rvmobileinternet.com/planpicks) or Which Carrier Is Best (www.rvmobileinternet.com/cell-carriers).
I have the 7730L and it’s performance has been only adequate. I also purchased the mimo antennae you used, but have trouble “finding the direction” to point for the cell towers. Is there a decent iPhone app that will help me find the correct location of the cell towers?
There are apps out there, but we don't find them overly reliable as they're crowdsourced. There's no publicly accessible official database of towers. We find it best to test and aim.
Great video guys. I already pay for a mobile data plan and want to use my phone as my mobile hotspot, rather than use something like the jetpack since I'd need a second plan and a sim card to go with it. At the moment I use a booster amplifier but in light of what you said I'm looking for a mimo antenna and simple amplifier as well but not one that has a hotspot built in, I just want the amplifier. Does such a thing exist? Many thanks
MIMO and amplifiers (boosters) are not things that exist together except in some very high end enterprise building gear... and smartphones don't have antenna ports.
Thansk for the informative video! I need better cell service while traveling and use a Verizon MiFi M2100 5G UW hotspot which isn't any better than using my Google Pixel 5 as a hotspot. Is there a mimo antenna that would work for this device? It only has a USB C port.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks for the quick reply! What hotspot would you recommend from Verizon and what antenna? I'll put the MiFi M2100 up on ebay!
Just stumbled upon your channel, and this video provided excellent information on mobile phone access, that I had been looking for. Thank you very much.
I'm an engineer and formerly cellular industry. I know all about the cellular infrastructure and technology yet you all informed me more on the end user technology needs than all the years I was inside the cell industry and all the other UA-cam videos. Plan simple understandable and practice straight truth. Plus straight forward to gimmicks demonstrations. Great advice at the end too.
Thank you.. that warms our team's hearts.
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three weeks, countless internet forums and youtube videos later.... you answered all my questions in one video... You guys are heroes 👌
Finally a video on the internet without the commercial magic words but real content. Thank you guys.
Best explanation ever for a non-techie to follow. Thank you.
And i agree with you Best explanation ever 👍👍
The lady knows her stuff! Simple, straight forward explanations makes this a must see video.
I help folks with this stuff all the time. This is the first time I've seen your videos and they're a perfect mix of technical and non-technical information. Liked and subscribed. Keep up the good work!
🙋♀️ hello! What would you recommend for rural areas? Is there anything out there under 60 dollars that's decent? If you do this for a living I apologize for asking, it's just I really don't know anything about tech nowadays. Thank you very much. If this is your work I understand if you can't answer.
@@dixiecyrus8136 if you are just looking for internet and can’t get traditional service, I’d recommend looking into cellular home options. You may find a local WIFI provider if you’re lucky, but that can be hit and miss. Just go to all your local cell stores and see who has the best option. Because we’re on their UA-cam page, I would also consider becoming an aficionado if you want more directed content. Their guides are great and I suspect they would provide you with one on one advice if necessary. Have a good one!
@@marcuhrich3784 thank you😁
Great videos! I send some of our customers and prospects to your channel from time to time to get easy-to-understand information! Thanks!
The mouth and ears analogy made the content easy to understand, thank you.
Gosh you guys are so helpful. We are just weekenders and not full timers but being without cell service and wifi drives us nuts. We are reliant on it for emergency work situations. This is so helpful as we try to figure out how we are going to improve this. THANK YOU
Thank you for all the help. You made a pretty intimidating topic very approachable.
MIMO is the factor that was eluding me. It all makes sense now. Great video!
just brilliant.. because it was packed full of really clear understandable information..
and also becasue your swapping back and forth was so light and fluid and lovely..
not an easy thing to do ina mostly live not overly eddited video.. really well done guys.. thank you..
Wow! Great explanation! I could have saved hours of research if I would have watched this video first! Thanks Guys!
Wow! Great video. We are trying to figure out how best to connect from our off-grid property in the white mountains of Arizona. This video was incredibly helpful. I subscribed.
What did you end up using or doing? I'll be working in the white mountains this spring.
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I'm so glad I found this video. I've been pulling my hair out all weekend trying to figure out why every time I turn our booster on, our download speed drops to nearly 1 Mbps even though our signal strength was going from weak to very good! I did notice it made our upload speeds somewhat better, but the whole point in buying the booster was to improve our crappy download speeds. I bet I've been on the roof 10 times moving this stupid yagi around. Hopefully I can still return it.
Y'all are an invaluable source for people like me in rural areas that can't get internet for nothing I spent 500 bucks on the surecall fusion 4home yagi/whip antenna and it barely gets me 1-3 MBPS and I get nothing when it storms
As usual, great video, I recommend you to Everyone!! You make it simple to understand. Can't thank you enough.
This video is awesome and is why we always send people to yall for information. We have a 8800L and the Surecall helps about 20% of the time which makes it worth it for us as we run our business over the internet and boondock a ton. Especially uploading videos! We just picked up the MIMO and I'm excited to start testing it as well. Thanks for the great video! Safe travels!
-Thomas
Thank you for making videos like these theyre so educational and informative your work is truly valuable to this community.
Can you guys do a remote only video? It’s sounds like you’re saying the booster is best for this. I’m west of the Rockies and i think East Coast peeps have almost no idea when it comes to this application.
Im very close to never camping anywhere where there’s more than 0-1 bar. Often I have to drive in towards a city to run work tasks and am hoping to do some remote working
Here's our post on boondocking that covers options: www.rvmoblieintenret.com/boondocking - so much comes down to your needs. And in truly remote locations away from cell towers, Starlink is likely your best option.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Lol I didn’t know what boone docking referred to. Ironically one of your posts talked about “coopers landing”… which is not too far from my hometown Columbia Missouri. Its funny you hear this location discussed as being somewhat remote. 😬
Good Explanation of the Differences, and the Pros and Cons. Current cellular (sim card) router doesn't accept external antenna's. All of its own antennas are internal too. I only have one tower that I can really reach, and its a little over 6 miles away. Can barely get a cell signal outside, often can't text. With a booster inside the house (with outdoor pole antenna), get decent signal inside the house. Currently have panel style outdoor antenna (as that is what the booster came with) which doesn't make sense for my situation, due to there only being one tower I can reach. I only get about 8mb download, 10-12 up (which I do need upload speeds for uploading videos and other at times). No reason to spread the signal out like a panel antenna does just for one tower. So I ordered a directional antenna which I can point to that one tower. Have yet to install it, but hope it brings in better signal/high down speeds.
My T-Mobile's has a hotspot that work for me most of time. I have certainly learned a lot from you two. 👍Thank you so very much.
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First, fantastic information. But sincerest apologies for this second point, OMG you are the luckiest man I know. Holy Smokes. OK, just had to say that. And thanks again for the great content.
Wow. Been following u for a few years now is my time to hit the road. You are clear and concise for a novice.
Hello, thanks for your answer.. In the minute 12:10 you test the jackpot connect directly to the MIMO omni directional antenna... The question is: do You test connecting this MIMO antenna to the outside antenna port on booster to see results inside?? thanks sorry for my english..
MIMO antennas would connect to the antenna ports on your router or hotspot.
I am adding a Jetpack 7730L and a NetGear MIMO antenna. My question is - how can I elevate the antenna on a remote pole? I have noticed that even 15-20 feet can be the difference between having a signal and not having one. When I ask how I can do this, I mean with what cables. I assume I may have to convert to something low-loss to get any decent height. I am often in remote areas that are on the edge of having a signal. I have thrown a rope over a tree branch and got a data signal by hoisting my cell phone up the tree. Perhaps I just hoist the Jetpack and MIMO antenna up the pole and just rely on the range of the Jetpack for my wifi connection. I can insulate both to prevent overheating.
Here's our collection of resources for installations, cables, connectors, etc: www.rvmobileinternet.com/installation-resources/
Dang! I actually learned something today! Actually more than I've learned studying this stuff for the last couple years! Thanks!
"bars are meaningless" ... unless you're looking for a drink! :-). Seriously, great video!!
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They aren't. They will indicate the best position.
Holy moly what is this resource I stumbled on! Thank you guys so much for thsi content!
Great video. I watched it a couple of times to catch all the details. But can you clarify whether the advantage of multiple atennas for Rx is for hearing from multiple towers, multiple frequencies/spreading from the same tower, or just multipath of the same signal. In the ear analogy, you typically are not listening to two different sources, but the same source (signal) with different angles and characteristics. Early in the video, you speak of getting signals from "all around", but then at ~2:20 you mention picking up "the same signal but 4 slightly different versions of it". I still think I understand that booster only gives you "one version" of the signal.
All depends on the local signal conditions.
Your voice is perfect for radio or podcasting.
Just the video I needed and when I needed it. I got the jetpack as you recommended and it has been incredible. Thank you and safe travels!
Thanks for the helpful info. If I get a MIMO antenna, then hook it to a hotspot router, wouldn't I have the additional expense of cell service for the router? Maybe I'm missing something.
Hotspot devices require their own plan - here are our top pick options: www.rvmobileinternet.com/planpicks
Well done! I loved how you explained the multi antenna advantage of MIMO. Way easier to understand than my old explanation when talking to people!
Eggsellent! Video quality was great and content was perfect! Love that part of Georgia!
Thank you David... we're loving cruising this area!
You guys seem so sweet. Plus I've been looking everyone for info on this stuff (I'm an IT guy an pretty good at internet research) but only paid articles seem to show up on Google.
Crazy thing is, you guys just showed up way down on my recommended list, I didn't find this on a search.
(You should put all the names of cellular providers in your descriptions/titles. That might help with search.)
Glad you found us. If you were searching for the topic of this video, I'm sure it would have shown up. This one has little to do specifically with the carriers themselves - and we believe in authenticity, not playing SEO games. Besides, much better when folks find us organically.
So I might be able to run cables from my Winegard antenna on my RV roof to my T-Mobile Inseego Mifi?
Thanks for your great videos, they are easy to understand! I have just started to research getting a WiFi signal when camping in the boonies and your videos are so very helpful.
Great video, you guys are the RF kings! Great analogies to put things into laymen's terms.
Good information. I'm so grateful that you took the time and explained this so well.
Another great video guys!
FYI - I believe you are missing the "rv" in the domain name from your example links for the weBoost and Netgear links. Existing links route to a different company.
Thanks.. I've corrected the links.
Great video. Thanks. What were the speeds with your phone alone?
So, the Verizon Jetpack is a booster? One that can accept hookup to a MIMO antenna (like the Netgear Mimo Antenna)?
A booster amplifies the signal; however, if you get one you probably want a MIMO antenna configuration attached to it? [Per your video and the results @10:18 mins]
A Verizon Jetpack only works with the Verizon network carrier? In other words, it won't work with a T-Mobile network? Are all boosters specific to networks; or frequencies? If so, how do I know what I need here on this Caribbean Island, (I have Digicel-Staysafe which operates UMTS 2100 MHz)?
You mentioned that MIMO antennas are a good place to start. However, what do you hook a MIMO antenna too, (it seems you need a booster device to accept the antenna hookup)? I think you need either a booster, a cellular router, or a mobile cellular hot spot to accept an antenna hookup - Is that correct; or are their other ways to connect such an antenna to the phone?
BTW: What are the differences between booster and cellular routers, (performance, etc.)?
I want to express my heartfelt appreciation for your assistance. Let me know how I can return favor.
You have a lot of basic confusion on the components of a mobile internet setup. Boosters, Routers, Antennas and Hotspots are all very different things (Jetpacks are NOT boosters, they are mobile hotspot devices). Recommend starting with our getting started content - www.rvmobileinternet.com/getting-started
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter - OK. Jetpack is a mobile hotspot
I believe boosters can amplify signal (increase signal quality to some degree or another); but cellular routers cannot.
From your video, a MIMO antenna is superior to others (like a single antenna). I couldn't determine from your video the reason why MIMO was better - Something to do with multiple signal pickup. I understand SU-MIMO vs MU-MIMO on wifi routers, (as well as variations of MU-MIMO - multiple spatial streams of wirelessly transmitting). MU-MIMO can increase downloading (only) streams. OFDMA, on the other hand, allows multiple users with varying bandwidth needs to be served simultaneously.
If I opt for a booster, I believe the type of carrier is specific for the device. In other words, will the booster handle GSM, or UMTS, or LTE.... It seems that matching a device with my country is an important issue. As far as I can tell, my country offers GSM 900/1900 MHz and UMTS (apparently a type of wide-CDMA) 2100 MHz.
I am grateful for your link, and heading over there now. Thank you so very much for your time. If you had a text that took me through all of these issues I would purchase it.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter - Going through your material now. Lots of great stuff.
So, if I understand things, a mobile hotspot might support MIMO - or multiple simultaneous communication with the cellular tower. Or, the phone itself may support MIMO (maybe even 4X4 MIMO). Therefore, with a MIMO hotspot or phone, you have multiple simultaneous communication packets routing its way to and back from the cellular tower.
However, I think I hear you saying that boosters only communicate with one antenna or link at a time. So, in many cases, it is slower than MIMO communication. Because of this, sometimes a booster will not be much faster than nothing at all!
My next question is: Doesn't anyone manufacture MIMO styled boosters?
No such thing a a MIMO booster.. they are different technologies.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter - thank you! I really enjoyed your web page and terrific material!
I read most of what I could there; and, get some feed back from people out on the road trying different solutions.
I'm down on the Island of Dominica (not the Dominican Republic). There are many here that need an internet solution.
One idea I had was to try out one of these 4X4 MIMO cat 18 routers with a 4X4 MIMO antenna... I'm still going through material and learning. Thanks again for everything. Drop me a line anytime if I can help out regarding anything medical.
ok, great video. I have an RV and really try to avoid putting more holes through the roof. Question, do the MIMO frequency penetrate fiberglass and aluminum? If so I could just put a MIMO antenna in one of the upper cabinets? Second question, I do have a Winegard roof antenna, is that MIMO? Sorry if these questions seem trivial to you but I really do not know anything about this subject... Thanks.
MIMO is not a special frequency, it's just a method to combine frequencies. And yes, there are MIMO antennas that can be used inside and work great, especially when placed in a window. One of our Top Picks:
www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/netgear-mimo/
I agree with other posters...You videos offer "spot on" one stop shopping when it comes to the Mobile Universe...Thank You![
I have to say, this is very informative! This stopped me from buy a single antennae band 28 booster for my CAT 4 4g lte Huawei E5573 band 28 MiFi (jetpack). I'm using a provider who has only listed band 28 as their transceiver band so I donno about carrier aggregation with them. All their provider locked devices don't go past CAT 4 which makes me think their masts don't support carrier aggregation, is there a way of finding it out without first buying a CAT 9 - 18 device? Does using a SMA Female to Y type Dual TS9 Male Splitter combiner coming from the booster to the jetpack solve the problem of failing to use the full capacity of the jetpack or will I need a 2nd booster for the 2nd TS9 connector port on the jetpack with its own antenna?
Cat 6 is the first category of modem that supports carrier aggregation. Check out our LTE-Modems video/guide - www.rvmobileinternet.com/lte-modems
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter thanks for that. I wanted to get some clarification on one thing about the CAT 4 jetpacks with two antenna ports, if you can connect each antenna port to an independent booster, will that solve the issue of getting low download data speeds and high upload data speeds?
It's difficult to predict what will work best for a specific location. We focus on mobile - trying to find solutions that work 'most of the time' as we travel.
Thank you for your explicit gestures it helps a lot when English is not your native language, I don’t think it is stupid I think it is very helpful
Thanks
Hey there!
So what would you suggest for a home?
We live in Scottsdale Arizona in a good sized city. We have full bars in most all rooms except one main room where we have a single bar and choppy download speeds.
Would you suggest any particular setup to increase and optimize data speeds and strength?
Also, Our WiFi is via Ethernet however, the fastest plan in this neighborhood is pretty slow (no fiber yet) and so we don’t use
Wi-Fi calling on our phones. Just FYI.
Thanks much ! You guys do an awesome very informative job with your videos! 😊
We are strictly focused on mobile applications... stationary internet is a different approach.
You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for the info!
Thank you I have watched this several times I really like your explanation and how you make it very easy to understand
Do these MIMO antennas only work with a hotspot from the cell company? I'm on a boat travelling between Panama, Colombia and the ABC islands and there are many different cell phone companies, most of which don't even have a hot spot device. Is there something that will boost the MIMO capability for any provider or am I stuck using a booster only? If anyone knows, please tell me, thanks!
Directly connected antennas require a cellular device with antenna ports - which are more typical in hotspots and cellular routers.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Hey thanks for the reply. Is there a device out there which I should buy which can work on multiple different carriers by simply plugging in a SIM card? Or something that boosts my cellphone to get a better connection and use that as a hot spot?
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter For example: Can I buy this Netgear M1 (or the new Netgear M2) and plug a Mimo directional antenna into it so I can get internet as long as I have a local carrier's SIM card plugged in?
You'll want to select an unlocked device that supports the frequency bands of the carriers in the countries you're traveling too. We have no further advice here, as we're focused on US-based travels.
11 am Sept 4. Do you have info on connecting two or more cell antennas together for greater signal? Which video? MIMO?
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Here is our guide to cellular data performance as a starting point on this topic: www.rvmobileinternet.com/performance
I live in a valley in a rainforest in Eastern Australia, 20 km (about 12 miles) to the nearest tower (and the jungle canopy behind our house is in the way at my end.) We get barely a bar of signal in a few places outside, nothing inside. I put an 18Dbi yagi antenna outdoors on a 3 meter tall mast, I attached the mast to the eves, connected the antenna to a booster with the right bandwidth, pointed it at the tower and used a small 4db paddle antenna indoors. The booster sees 3 bars of signal coming in, the phones and other devices see 5 bars of signal from the booster.
The 5 bar reading on the phone is "meaningless" in the sense that it is only showing the signal it's picking up from the booster's indoor antenna, but the three bar signal input on the booster's LCD shows the input signal the booster receives. So I'm really getting about three bars of signal indoors now. With the monsoons coming, this is going to be a much better system than the old one of leaving the phone on the roof of the car in the yard to send or receive a text and waiting until I'm going out for something to make voice calls.
Reason the booster makes sense in my situation comes down to two things. One, distance, two, we're a house, we don't move around like a boat so a directional gain boost is perfect. On a boat you want good signal in all directions, so yes, a MIMO panel antennae is a good move, one with two offset dipoles is even better. You want it as high as possible. You could even hook that up to the cell booster as the outdoor antenna if you wanted, if you were cruising somewhere more than a few miles to the nearest tower. Stationary setups like cabins or rural homes that are a long way from the nearest tower would be better served with a setup like mine.
*IF YOU'RE THINKING OF GETTING A SIGNAL BOOSTER, FIRST OF ALL FIND OT WHAT BAND YOUR PHONE OR MODEM IS USING BEFORE YOU BUY ANYTHING!*
On iphone you dial *3001#12345#* and press the call button, then click Serving Cell Info.
On android there's an app called LTE Discovery that tells you what band you're on among other things.
Excellent video and explanations.
Can you use mimo with the boosters?
Such as, running two yagi antennas, pointing the same direction 90 degrees rotated, feeding two separate boosters, feeding two separate indoor antennas?
The wireless signals transmitted by the interior antennas would overpower each other and confuse your cellular device.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter That makes sense. I might think the antennas would have been oriented in opposite polarities of each other. I wonder if anyone with extreme RF engineering skills has been able to successfully pull this off.
I wonder if you can take advantage of the internal MIMO if you use two boosters with directional antennas pointed to 2 different towers?
No, the boosters end up interfering with each other.
Thanks for helping us to figure out our options! So we’ll explained
Great video I use to work for cable company and people at the end of line would always so just put a booster on it. It wasn't a fix all.thing with boosters they get better signal but picture would go much worse. Back to MiMO I have good signal outside not great. I bought antenna small one. It really helped so much. I was focused on the bars from 3 to 4 back and forth. When I look at the DB I was only loosing like 2 db that would make it go down. Sometimes if it's back and forth may not be as bad as u think. Great video
Thank you so much for doing this video!!! I was going to do the same video as so many people ask us this question! Saved us so much time! Will share!!
Great minds think alike!!
I fixed data boost with a Starlink antenna, the problem is requiring Cellular voice boost in Mexico as our Cell signal is bad to our house. Would a antenna hooked to a hotspot allow our Cell to ring and achieve voice ? We have TelCel and AT&T Mexico, neither of which appear to support using our Starlink data connection for voice though work perfect for WiFI.
Your phone / plan would need to support Wi-fi Calling to connect to a Wi-Fi source for making calls.
I work at an automaker plant, I've moved to an area in the plant that I've bad connection. What advice can you give me to help get better service?Something small that I can carrie in and out everyday, thank you
We are focused on RV and boat applications. Likely nothing you can do inside a building on your own. Building would need to install an industrial strength booster.
Just finished watching this vid and while very informative, has raised further questions for me...
My husband is a truck driver (we're in Canada) and he often is in the bush...far from towers. We have invested in several cell boosters previously that have helped sometimes, while other times not...with a range in prices...
I was currently looking at the webeoost drive otr (with the large cylinder antenna on a post) for his truck. However, as mentioned in the vid, comes at a whopping $650+ price tag. Now, given the info in this vid, at the times when my husband is out in the bush, a booster seems to be the best choice. But will a cheaper booster work just as good as an expensive one if it has the higher and larger antenna?
Now, he also gets extremely frustrated when he is in the city or just outside the city where he should have no problem with signal and it still drops calls or he isn't able to view emails, social media, get messages, etc. Now, in these instances, would it be better to get him a mifi? Or a mifi and antenna? And if so, should he "turn off" the cell phone booster to achieve the best results? Also, is it better to have a dual band mifi instead of single? Or will it not make much difference?
If the coverage service from our specific cellular provider is not as good as other providers, would using the SIM from our provider cause the same issues seen on the phone as an unlocked mifi device?
Sorry I know that's a lot of questions...hopefully u can help with them all!! Thanks!! :)
You can find our full guide to cellular data performance and signal enhancing here: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellsignal. If you're a member, please do post questions you have in our member forums and we can address them there (and you also have access to our indepth reviews and field testing data from multiple solutions).
EXCELLENT VIDEO! Thanks for making this simple
Where I am going tent camping the T-Mobile cell service is barely available because the tower is too far away. I don't any on-going monthly billing just need a device with a antenna I can point and place in a tree at my campsite so I will have better cell service. Any suggestion. I only go camping 3 or 4 times a year.
T-Mobile's long range coverage is on Band 71, which isn't covered with a booster. Your best bet is an antenna only solution, which requires antenna ports.. or trying another carrier.
What about an in-line booster on each of the 2 MOMO leads?
That is an option.. we've shared our experimentation with it in our member areas.
Mobile Internet Resource Center it is that most in line boosters don’t cover allot of the signals
Can you use both? For example, MiMo where signals exists and weBoost if you’ve isolated without a signal?
Yes, many travel with both solutions.
Mobile Internet Resource Center thank you 🙏
Great stuff! Do you think cable lengths factor in?
I loved that part of Georgia when I worked boats.
Yes.. cable length definitely makes a difference. Hey, look.. we have a guide to that too :) www.rvmobileinternet.com/guides/cables-connectors-and-adapters/
Okay so I don't have a hotspot or router all I have cell phones for our Off the Grid cabin up north we get signals in certain spots if we go up the hill we get great signal my question is looks like Mimo's the way to go but is mimo only good for if you're using a hotspot router? what if you just have 5 cell phones for a family of five and you want to get good signals for phone calls and data is mimo still a better way or booster because your video was very informative talks about how mimo benefits a Wi-Fi router or SIM card router what about mimo benefiting just a cellphone with expensive antenna directional hooked up to an mimo if so what mimo works for a just a cellphone
External antennas can only be used with devices with antenna ports, which smartphones do not have. Smartphones do have internal MiMO antennas however.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter OK I understood that part(u mentioned that in ur video clearly..)... how can I ampily the cel tower signal using a mimo and boost it for my cel w/out using a hotpot router... I get the concept of getting a better antenna out for a router so you can amplifier signal I do that with my Wi-Fi at my house to get a better signal and give a better signal throughout the house I have I'm trying to do the same thing but grabbing a cell phone tower and amplifying it how do I compass that with a Mimo not using a SIM card hotspot router or a data plan Hotspot, is the only option a we boost?
The only option with smartphones is a booster.. which is not MIMO.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter so for a off grid cabin (12v) ur sugestión would be the we bood reach cause it runs on 12v? Or the rv one but does that run on 12v... I'd prefer not to have to run inverter
What's best at a fixed location is highly dependent on that location. But for signal enhancing cell phones, a booster is your only option, but is not guaranteed to work at your location. Service at fixed-locations is not what we focus on, we focus on mobile internet options.
Great information, but I am still confused...I am in need to utilize my (Currently) Sprint Iphone7 Plus to send photos of my fish that I catch to a APP that we use for competitions in kayak fishing tournaments that rely of a system of catch-photograph- and release for the scoring system... Keeping in mind that we are sitting in the middle of large lakes while fishing, what do you recommend for a devise that I could hookup to a portable power devise (USB being the best if possible) to send my pictures to the app then?
Sprint is difficult to boost, unfortunately. More: www.rvmobileinternet.com/boosters
I live in a brick house in a valley. I'm lucky to get 1 bar, especially in the summer when leaves are on all the surrounding trees, I miss calls often. What is the right booster for me? I have an AT&T (gsm) phone hooked to T-Mobile through Simple Mobile
We are the MOBILE internet resource center.. focusing on options for RVers and boaters. Residential isn't our speciality.
Pepwave as a Cell repeater with no data plan.
I need some direction. My wife and I are planning on full timing this summer in out ATC i.e. faraday cage RV this summer and are looking for solutions for network access. Here is what I’m looking at for a setup: Pepwave MAX BR1 Cat-20 modem using an external Parsec Husky pro 7 in 1 antenna. Along with a Weboost Drive x. So here is my question and issue. Q, Can I use the Pepwave with external antenna to pick up cell communications and have them rebroadcasted to the inside with out using a data plan on the Router i.e., using it like a repeater no data plan on router. Just having the device repeat the external signal on the inside and then use my tablet to surf the web, Not using the table to rebroadcast as a hot spot. I know that I can use the Weboost for this use but want to maximize the Mimo Tech in the Husky external antenna to maximize throughput. I would prefer not to have to have a 3rd antenna for just a repeater on the roof although that might be m only option. We would like to be able to use or cell phones inside the RV just like we would outside but as the RV blocks almost all signal we must keep the door open and be within close proximity to the opening to use are cell data. Are there any external to internal repeaters that use mimo tech inside and outside that will also pick up a large majority of the cell broadcasted bands? This is all because we want to only use the router cell plan for our PC whiles working but would also like to surf on our phones in the evening using their individual cell plans with out having to keep the door open. Thanks for the support.
Pepwave is a cellular embedded router, not a cellular repeater. The modem inside is what takes the cell signal and turned it into an internet connection - and it needs a data plan for that.
You can however connect your smartphone to the router's Wi-Fi signal to benefit from it's enhanced cellular connection.
For more on using cellular as an internet connection: www.rvmobileinternet.com/cellular-resources
If you're a member and have further questions, please do utilize the MIA forums so our team can further assist.
If you for example using 4x4 mimo router and quad mobile antenna, connect 2 antenna cables directly to router, and on other 2 add signal boosters befor connecting them on other 2 ports, would you have download and upload speed increased simultaneously?
Potentially. Each location has its unique challenges, and boosters have some downsides too.
From a fellow cruiser looking for a straight forward simple solution, you made my day with the hands on comparison. Great job on cutting through the hype.
I'm confused about what I should look for for my situation. I live in an area where we have one tower - ATT. Found out the other day that the service for my carrier Puretalk is downgraded on that tower. Still, everything works great except for calling/receiving calls inside my home. I have to walk outside for calling services. (data works fine even in home). Should I be looking for a MIMO, or booster ? Also, Puretalk says that if I purchase a booster it should be 900/1950 gsm. I don't know what that means exactly.
Hard to say for a specific location - we are focused on mobile for RVers and boaters.
Good morning sir/madam I like to know tell me where going to found booster showing us via youtube cause am here at South Africa
We only cover information for USA based nomads.
You guys are incredible. Thanks.
I have a netgear m5. After using a directional antenna the internal antennas do not seem to be working correctly there after, have you seen this issue?
Would you recommend either of these options for isolated locations in the mountains. I have grandparents that live remotely and experience terrible cell phone service due to a lack of towers in the area. I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the matter, very informative content! thanks
It's hard to say for a specific location what will work best without testing gear at the location. We are a mobile internet channel for RVers and boaters.
New to full time RVing. Purchased a Pepwave Max BR1 MK2 cellular router. Using an AT&T sim with just the blade antennas that comes with the router I'm getting impressive download and upload speeds. I installed a Poynting 5 way MIMO antenna on the roof of our RV and was super disappointed with it, as the download and upload speeds dramatically decreased. I've checked and double checked my cable connections to the router, used the little adapters for the wi-fi cable connections, and everything looks good. The antenna is not mounted near any other antenna or A/C unit, or anything that might cause interference.
Is there a way to test or check the Poynting antenna to make sure it's functioning properly? I'm thinking there must be something wrong with the antenna.
If your RV isn't made of metal, sometimes the included antennas perform better due to the lack of signal loss over wiring. Also check your Pepwave settings for the bands that each setup is connecting to, that can make a difference as well. If you're a member, feel free to post in our forums so our team can further assist.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter The RV is a Grand Design, all fiberglass, rubber roof, typical 5th wheel construction. I will do a comparison with each of the antennas to see what bands they are connecting to, I will check upload and download speeds inside and outside the RV on each antenna system. I just want to be able to put my finger on what's causing the poor performance of the Poynting antenna. I'm getting a good education in LTE cellular internet.
If I find out what's causing the issue I'll let you know in case somebody down the road has the same problem and needs some help. Thanks for your tip.
GREAT VIDEO! We moved to rural GA with no internet options so for the past 2 years I have been running our businesses off of 6 different Verizon devices. I ordered my second Mifi last week and have been looking for an antenna option. It's funny, everyone I have spoken to at Verizon all said there aren't antenna ports on the 8800L. You're video blew my mind because I thought I was loosing it when everyone told me there aren't ports. Thank you for the great videos!
Excellent video and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for doing this!
Great video guys, such an easy explanation!
I have a quick question for you, I am moving to an area with no hardwire hookup and very bad 3g/4g reception.. I can get 1 or 2 bars of 4g on the roof, I'm thinking if I were to set up a mimo antenna, put my modem in the roof space and run a data from the modem to a switch where I plan on a full Ubiquiti router/WAP setup. This would take care of my data, then for voice calls I could get a cheap booster online and use this for extending my signal into the house, as I wouldn't be using this for data it could work fine. Does this sound like the best option? Thanks guys
It's hard to predict for a specific location. We focus on mobile :)
I Just returned a 550 dollars booster because a 10 dollars MIMO antenna outperform the booster. So know everything makes sense. Thank you guys
I only have a smartphone, so no way to connect mimo antenna.
Could I not run 2 complete and separate boosters so the smartphone could "listen" with the internal Mimi antennas? I know that could get pricey, but would it work?
No, that would just create a bunch of loud conflicting signal noise that is likely to confuse your phone.
I have the Netgear MIMO antenna you are testing, and I see the same results. Close to double the download speed of my boosted single antenna. My question is....could I add a booster on each antenna cable out of the MIMO before connecting to the Jetpack to get even faster speeds?
There are M2M boosters for this purpose - but in our testing, they don't yield the desired results.
Thanks you guys for all the work you do
There is so much information I'm not sure which one to pick. LOL. I am trying to work on the road because we are full-time rvers and I'm having a terrible time with service and speeds. What do you suggest for working on the road?
Here's our resources for working remotely over mobile internet all in one place: www.rvmobileinternet.com/working-remotely If you're a member and would like additional guidance, please do post in our forums so our team can assist.
My cellphone has headphone jack for FM radio. Does that that work as antena to boost cellular internet?
No, that would be for a headphone.
In areas where you have almost no signal or none at all, can you use both a booster and a MIMO at the same time? The jetpack by itself is not getting any signal and I was hoping one or both of these solutions in tandem would allow my 8800L to get signal
It isn't likely to work, they are different technologies and approaches.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Is there a specific one that you think would work better in my case that I could try out?
The 8800 is the top Jetpack right now. Every location is different, so we can't know what specifically will work for you. However, about 80% of the time an external MIMO antenna will work better than a booster. See the guide in the description for more details.
How do I use one of those MIMO antennas if I don't have a hot spot hockey puck thingy for it to plug into and I'm using my phone cell as a hot spot and I want to be remote?
You need a device with antenna ports to utilize MIMO antennas.
Any reason you can't hook up a booster to each MIMO output to get the best of both?
There are M2M boosters out there, but they are very low power (wireless boosters directly hooked up are too powerful). They can work in some situations.
Good info, thank you. In the mimo vs booster cost discussions it seems to always be "$30 vs $500". The jetpack purchase and service costs are ignored. Or am I missing something?
The focus is just on the signal enhancing options. Devices and plan costs are an entirely different discussion (which we have tons of content on too).
Yes, the vid was 99% technical but there was a somewhat narrowly covered "cost" element too as I recall which was typically misrepresented. 13:30 for ~twenty seconds.
All of the prices mentioned in that segment are general price ranges for antennas and boosters - topic of this video. Check out our gear center (www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear) for specific options, including modems, plans and more.
Right we have a cell booster and all it does is basically makes our home have cell service that we didn't have before. Zero service to enough service to stream on our phone.
No monthly subscription and only caps are those set by the cell service provider.
With MIMO I am pretty sure you have to have a cellular plan, PLUS an additional subscription for the router itself to work. So, it costs monthly to have it.
And from what I understand, these only really work if towers are decently close, and boosters work for places where you're getting absolutely nothing.
I still think a booster is better for our needs.
Can I attach a 2x2 MIMO to a duplexer, then attach that duplexer to a booster to amplify multiple antennae at once?
Don't see where that would have any benefit.
What about t-mobile hotspot? I have a t9 hotspot but it doesn’t have any external antenna connection. What should I get?
You can't use antennas if you don't have ports.
So... Can I combine two boosters and two mimo antennas? One mimo antenna for outdoors, and another for indoors?
No, that would not likely yield desired results.
I really just need cell service for potential emergency calls. What would be best?
We mainly focus on cell plans with high data limits, but these guides might help you: Top Pick Data Plans (www.rvmobileinternet.com/planpicks) or Which Carrier Is Best (www.rvmobileinternet.com/cell-carriers).
I have the 7730L and it’s performance has been only adequate. I also purchased the mimo antennae you used, but have trouble “finding the direction” to point for the cell towers. Is there a decent iPhone app that will help me find the correct location of the cell towers?
There are apps out there, but we don't find them overly reliable as they're crowdsourced. There's no publicly accessible official database of towers. We find it best to test and aim.
Great video guys. I already pay for a mobile data plan and want to use my phone as my mobile hotspot, rather than use something like the jetpack since I'd need a second plan and a sim card to go with it. At the moment I use a booster amplifier but in light of what you said I'm looking for a mimo antenna and simple amplifier as well but not one that has a hotspot built in, I just want the amplifier. Does such a thing exist? Many thanks
MIMO and amplifiers (boosters) are not things that exist together except in some very high end enterprise building gear... and smartphones don't have antenna ports.
New to this channel. I’m going to subscribe and learn as much as I can and possibly join your premium group. Thanks very much.
Thansk for the informative video! I need better cell service while traveling and use a Verizon MiFi M2100 5G UW hotspot which isn't any better than using my Google Pixel 5 as a hotspot. Is there a mimo antenna that would work for this device? It only has a USB C port.
Unfortunate that device does not have antenna ports.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Thanks for the quick reply! What hotspot would you recommend from Verizon and what antenna? I'll put the MiFi M2100 up on ebay!
Just stumbled upon your channel, and this video provided excellent information on mobile phone access, that I had been looking for.
Thank you very much.