Star Wars: Legion Review
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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Another great review Efka! It's nice to see another high-profile board-game reviewer embrace a miniature war game in the way it was intended - with all of the collecting/building/painting/scenery side of things. However, next time please don't post it at 2am as I was just about to go to sleep and was forced to stay up for an extra 21 minutes! (PS my rebels are ready for that re-match whenever you are) :D
Excellent review. Now please refrain from speaking on this further so I can continue to shutter my eyes and focus on my own sci-fantasy miniature world with an equally delightful fan base. (Great review Efka.)
Thanks Joel! :)
Those are well painted models. You're selling yourself short. Great review Mr. Efka.
You did it again! You took a game that I had no interest in and made a video that I was glad I watched. Both Efka and Elaine put a lot of time and effort into funny and thoughtful reviews of the games.
(For the record, you cover games I'm interested in, too, I just wanted to highlight how you can make something that I thought I had no interest in enjoyable.) Keep up the great work!
That part about half of the minis being unpainted was so god damned relatable :D I basically only painted my vehicles and Luke and Vader fully, while the troopers...well, let's not talk about that…
I invested in Imperial Assault. As much as I want to start this, I can't. I don't have the income for it unfortunately to start a new game. Imperial Assualt Skrimish mode is really good, and I enjoy playing it. I can always increase the point size, and get a bigger scale map to match up with legion massive scale.
Great review as ever. You mention needing someone to play with, I just wanted to say you can generally find pick up games in stores and events to play at. So you get to play the game and meet new people (worth checking your local area ofc though).
Update: you can now get Boba Fett, Bossk, and tauntauns, so the unexciting releases problem is not an issue any more. Besides, Stormtroopers actually increase in awesomeness the more of them you have! Great review!
The best strategy in Legion is to let the wookie win.
Love your guys' stuff - always appreciate how you break things down with humor but sharp mechanics
Vagabond plush was my favorite part of this review.
Root review confirmed, then? :)
This is my first time stumbling across your channel, I enjoyed it and look forward to more videos.
I must say that you are the perfect marriage of Shut up & Sit down and Booger from revenge of the Nerds!
Excellent review. The time and effort of painting miniatures is what prevents me from heading down this road and I am happy to see that you ended up where I would probably have ended up.
There's hardly a time/effort investment nowadays IMO. It's not early GW days anymore, people have come up with specialised paints and time saving techniques since then (thanks, internet!). You can paint a miniature in a few minutes using those, I've even made some tutorials myself.
Agree. Especially after what FFG has proven itself capable of providing through Armada and X-Wing. There’s no reason these could not have come pre-painted.
YES
Loved the review! Now I think we need a "special drive" to get Efka to finish painting ALL his sw minis. Paint the minis Efka!
Another wonderful review. You've actually got me tempted to try this with my 13 yr old daughter as she's a big Star Wars fan as our first miniatures based war game (also first war game), what would be the absolute bare minimum needed to have an enjoyable experience, in terms of sets?
Oooph, tough question. I'd say at least get an AT-ST and the Air Speeder respectively for each side. They're big dumb units and fun to play around with. Maybe an extra unit of Troops (whichever ones, doesn't matter) for Rebels to even out the army point scores.
I love this game and have been buying the heck out of it! They did a fantastic job with the IP. This is an awesome way to get into the hobby of miniature wargamming.
We have the mushroom saying too. Hello from Slovenia !
Root vagabond plushy :)
Rosnąć jak grzyby po deszczu!(PL)
So much time was spent buying and painting all the miniatures and setups , the time placing all the units on the board , and huge budget need to be spent on all this... but on the other hand it looks so much fun :)
Never knew you were Lithuanian like I am, Efka. That's really cool!
Hands down the best gateway miniatures game right now is Gaslands. the only thing you have to do is buy the cheap rulebook and a few hot wheels cars, which are already painted. If you want to go further that's up to you.
Honestly, Efka, your minis look quite good for a beginner! And you're right, the investment in time and effort and love and care is one of the most rewarding parts of miniature games.
You should try Guild Ball, I think. Guild Ball's Kickoff box set is like Legion's starter set in that it's a miniature game pretending to be a board game, but unlike others in the category Kickoff is actually the full Guild Ball experience. All the other products are just different teams you could play as, or different characters you could substitute in to customize your team because you only ever put 6 characters on each side of the pitch. This also makes painting a bit easier, since there are fewer models, and each model is a unique character model like Vader as opposed to having squads of infantry to paint. And the gameplay is, well, exquisite - it's one of the smartest games I've ever played. You should check it out if you feel so inclined, it's the best game ever made that lets you bring a shotgun to a football match.
Thanks for the balanced perspective at the end about so so release schedule
Would you consider doing a review of Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire? Or even the new one coming out soon: Nightvault. As a miniature wargamer, I'd like to hear your thoughts on them.
Cheers!
Nice painting - as for good miniature games - try Moonstone (Goblin King Games) or Bushido (GCT studios). Bushido is quite intense, but if you ignore the objective, you will loose. Moonstone uses card mechanics beautifully -like bluffing and an engaging combat mechanic with some similarity to rock paper scissors , but with mitigation... both top notch games with wonderful settings and minis.
Glad you had so much fun with this!
great little video... have actually had this sat on my shelf for a while... unpacked. But I have been thinking about making up the figs and painting them. So here's my question...
You mention someone whose videos you watched to paint vader... who was that?
Thanking ye kindly, great video as always...
ua-cam.com/users/Sorastro enjoy!
👍Thumbs Up for not destroying that beautiful vintage Kenner Millennium Falcon. Thank you💞
‘’Tow cables to tip the space camels “ lmao
Where did you get the cool terrain?
3:50 I'm Polish and we have exactly the same saying!
i have a proud army of 20 droidikas and one B1 leading them, nothing will stop us
(great review^^)
I haven't got any miniature war games, but have dived fully into a CMON mini game, and reached exactly your stage of having half looking pretty cool, half unpainted. I probably should also have taken your advice on finding someone else equally invested...
I'm in an odd place. I came to gaming through 40K. I still collect and play Kill Team, Warcry, Bolt Action, Black Seas, X-Wing.. (I don't know anyone who measures every mini, measure one and move the rest cohesively). I'm a big Staw Wars fan. I never fancied this for some reason. Maybe my addiction to the plastic crack is already sated.
I'm also a big board games fan/player. It is very disturbing that a lot of game review channels look down on tabletop games. Comes across as a kind of snobbery. Nice to see a game like this given time and a bit of respect.
Yes, my life is the constant yin-yang of uplifting, chest swelling painted minis and soul crushing bare grey plastic.
Would love a Gaslands review to compare... (both 'miniatures' 'wargames' but VERY different in terms of required investment - seems Gaslands strays more towards the boardgame angle?)
Oh man, that wasp bit, I'm only a minute in and cracking up!
I LOVE your sense of humour. Subscribed
Wow! Been a while since I've checked in with you guys, and Efka has lost so much weight! Looking good sir!
Welcome back!
Super presentation! Game manufacturers should rush to enlist you with an exclusive long term contract for marketing their products!
They'd be very disappointed to find out that we're not really interested in marketing anything.
You're too harsh on your paint jobs, they all looked really good. I would love to get into this game, unfortunately I still have about 200 40k minis still to paint :/
Just found out about this game. Your review helped a lot! Awesome video
"Stormtroopers...They're a bit like mushrooms" - you've forgotten Efka, board games are no food!
Make a review of A song of ice and fire miniature game
Nice work... first exposure to your channel and enjoyed it.
Sticking with just two base sets myself. Oh yeah, did add a General Veers and Han Solo to have another leader for each side. But that's it. No more. Nope. Not buying anymore.
Welcome!
Clones clones clones clones
Rebel Commandos and Scout Troopers are pretty awesome! I love the idea of specialized troops who can sabotage things / plant explosives. GIVE IN TO THE DARK SIDE! Let the lust for more units flow through you!
Great Review, agree with all your key points apart from objectives, if playing a full 800 point game objectives normally dictate the outcome, I think I have only had one 800 point game where a player was tabled before victory count. I have also seen early conceded victorys where a player has calculated the cannot catch up on VPs.
Great review though, your passion matches mine and while game time is pretty quick, this is a big hobby to get into if you dare to paint them,
Great paint jobs! Keep up the good work!
Were you planning on reviewing Empires of the Void II?
Somebody better call Thanos.
Couldn’t agree more. Me and a friend are constantly playing this all the time. Either you’re for the game or you’re not. It’s an investment for sure, but it’s a fun one.
Yup, wargames don't hold palyer's hands, telling them which models buy or not. They are open systems in this aspect. You can go "I only want to play small skirmishes with my wife when we have a spare moment" through "As a tournamnet player I need only a standard sized tournament force and I am done" to "I love huge multiplayer battles with my friends, using hundreds of models on a huge battlefield and taking up an entire day to play" and "I need a constant stream of new things to paint, to keep the hobbying going". All those are viable options, neither of them "the only proper way to play the game"
Exactly! Me and my friends are fairly casual and I'm the one who paints is all up, but all good fun for us that way.
I might be watching this in 2021, I might only be 6 and a half minutes in.... but you my friend have retracted the legs on my childhood toy! (which I later learned was a bit of a collectable)
Carry on.
Great review, it actually pushed me not to buy the game. And that's a great thing!
Nothing can make me pick up the phone and call mom.... 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Really wanting to know where the buildings came from. Thanks in advance
I got it from a website called Imperial Terrain.
@@NoPunIncluded thank you very much appreciated.
*Wow where i can buy falcon in this scale* ?
Excellent review! (And pretty good paint jobs.) You had me entertained and laughing.
Have fun at SHUX! Wish I were going. :)
sorry, got distracted by the Root vagabond plushie :D! looking forward to the review :P
Thanks for the review! Among the best miniature wargames you have ever played ? That sounds impressive :) What other such games have you played, Efka ?
Do you have experience with Warmachine or Guildball (which I consider the preferred style of wargame - much less random, with a lot of player agency and decision making as opposed to GW games which feel more like "let's roll dice and see what happens" cheerful affairs)?
It's been a while but I have played Warmachine, tried Infinity, etc. I'm no wargaming fiend but I know what I like and why I like it.
No Pun Included Definitely we have a lot of choice now :)
One one hand it's a good thing, on the other I've experienced gaming communities splitting. I notice it with my regular board games group too - we used to play and enjoy whatever really, when we were younger, but now one of us wants a hefty euro, another a campaign adventure, and another some solid military conflict...and as a result some of us skip meetings orconstantly voice their dissatisfaction with the game chosen...
Yeah, too much choice can be a bad thing. I kind of miss those innocent days, when Talisman was the best game in the universe...because there were no other games to compare it to ;)
Indeed, no puns were included as usual.
Where can I get that board ??? Have a refferal link???
Games Workshop
Brilliant review guys!
This video made me subscribe. Great sense of humor.
Amazing video...bit mad cause I've put off buying this because of the cost of entry and my collectors mentality...I just wanna try playing all Troopers and rebels. Now If I get it I'm behind the 8 ball on expansions and will end up spending to much.
Great video though.
Nice use of the word ‘bimble’ 👍
What's the music in the beginning?
Nice review. Where is that board from?
Games Workshop
one of your best reviews evah!
Everyone has a phrase "like mushrooms after rain". Even in Georgian language.
They don't in England!
In Hebrew too!
Mad Season!
:))
by the way: the name Mad Season is also connected to mashrooms.
Mad Season is an English term for the time of the year when psilocybin mushrooms are in full bloom.
you painted fucking great!
Great game, with announcements and releases too far apart. Not bad price compared to other big wargames, but without the range to choose from games can get a bit samey. And ffg want you to buy more dice on top of all that.
Yep, luckily I have spent most my time painting up both armies to a decent standard, now starting to get regular games in and variety is just starting to appear.... until some OP'd meta emerges.
'This video only makes sense if you're Lithuanian.' - No Pun Included, prolly
loved your review!
Kaip grybai po lietaus! Yes Efka, I sensed that you have Lithuanian roots!
Beautiful review!
Armored sausages. Sounds about right.
Are you channelling the Sit Down and Shut Up, guys?
Lithuanian? I envy You Sabonis. Great review btw.
We got dewbacks!
At the end of the day making these miniatures means playing with toys and bringing them to life... and storm troopers do make good toys, but the rebels are pretty poor. As much as Ewoks, Gungans and Droideka aren't great for movies they were made with one thing in mind, selling toys, and in miniature games you need good toys. If we get an Ewok army, or Gungans, even Jawas with Tuskan Raiders and hacked droid armies or anything else that actually looks fun to collect, I'll be there, but there is no way to make collecting a bunch of rebels an exciting prospect, and only so much you can do before stormtroopers get old.
Seriously, have you seen all the nonsense on Jabba The Hut's barge? This game should be a fountain of exciting miniatures, but it's just all the most boring dudes imaginable.
I just want a Rancor damnit!
YOU DONE GOOD SON
Loved the review. Really funny.
Thanks for the review and may I say omg you lost so much weight! Good job man
I spy with my little eye... Leisure Games! :D
The irony is most of this stuff released after this
you're like every guy i've ever met at a random bar ever
Argh, Ruminations!! Really thought Conor wouldn't be able to outdo his self titled album, but what a record!
Oh yeah, Star Wars or whatever too... S'alright I guess.
Who are these people for whom board games aren't expensive and time consuming enough?
Great to see they've made a good job out of the game, but I know I'd end up with a pile of unpainted minis sitting in a drawer.
Wow, as a board gamer, I can’t express how much I am looking forward to NOT painting all that crap.
Like I said b4 I love yr reviews :)
"Who cares if it's not perfectly to scale?" Disney. Disney does. They've decided that absolutely everything officially licensed will be canon.
hater
Thank you for another great monologue... errr... I mean video... video... yes, definitely video. Oh, and review!! Yes, that too!
Lithuania reference! Kaip grybai po lietaus!
Superb..thanks....
Lords of Hellas review when
Hahaha "space camels"
why are u so slim?
0:13 get mad at John Oliver
As if you have video budgets!LOL
Guess what? Every video has a budget! And this video's budget, believe it or not, was stupendously high. You just might not see it. Paints - over £100 pounds. Extra mini packs - roughly £150 pounds. GW cardboard desert board - £50. 3d printed 'Tatooine' buildings - £100. Kylo Ren mask - £7.50 for a train ticket to pick it up from my friend who kindly lent it. Other videos might have different expenses such as props, travel, paying someone for help, etc. Then, factor in the per video cost of all the gear purchased such as cameras, lights, stands, editing software and suddenly it's not a very LOL matter.
So vaul and mr mal or Ian have gone to warmahordes. Drive thru review dwellers below and sustainable center to age of sigmas. No pun to sw legion and once bitten to ninth age. Shame no one is jumping on to a song of ice and Fire Tabletop miniatures game...
Is that the fortune-telling Satan head from The Twilight Zone on your mantle?