Thanks again to Atomic Mass Games for sending us this review copy of Star Wars: Shatterpoint! If you're interested in learning more follow this link: bit.ly/EonsofBattle_SWP
When I use oils for a wash I thin it out until it has the flow of an ink. Then instead of applying it onto the whole model, I carefully apply it only to the areas I want shaded. This targeted method of applying your oil washes means you have less to clean up and it also saves you oil paint.
Agree that Jay's first washes looked too thick. A few tips which work for me: 1. spraying the basecoat with an acrylic gloss varnish first, 2. putting the oil paints on a piece of cardboard to pull out some of the linseed oil before making the wash 3. Letting the wash dry for 2-4 hrs instead of overnight before the removal step.
Entire video is Jay telling us good ideas and then showing us where slightly more obsessed but typical ideas get you... Working on minis late in the evening for a small (possibly negligible) benefit. My hobby self lives vicariously through you Jay!
As someone who volunteered to demo games at a convention, let me tell you, teaching the same game roughly every 30 minutes was awful, particularly if you hate one of the mechanics. My only saving grace was that the company was demoing multiple games, and I could change what I teach.
@@Johndoe-co3pw gloss is a much more durable varnish, and is much better for protecting lower layers. Nothing is stopping you from doing a gloss varnish over a finished model then a matte varnish over that for the non-reflective finish
Shouldnt have to gloss varnish though, oils and thinners don't react with acrylic paint. He just rubbed them way too hard, because of the undiluted oil. He just scrubbed the paint off by force
Not a Star Wars guy, but love those droids ! You don’t see a lot of multiple characters as one mini very often and it makes the dinky droids look like they can actually do something :)
Amazing job, and awesome video! Love that your energy and enthusiasm DID NOT dip at all! I bet it felt painful at times, but only the love came through on the camera.
Awesome job! I really like how you have the clock in the background so people can see how long you took painting each model. I personally feel thats a kinda important detail that a lot of people leave out. A good paint job can take a long time, even when using shortcuts like the airbrush and rattle cans.
Man, I'm struggling to pick up a brush after basically a year of not painting due to a bit of depression after my dog passed away under really rubbish circumstances, but seeing how quickly those mini's came together was inspirational, and I might take some ques in painting some legion stuff with this quick and streamlined method. Been a pleasure watching as always.
I’m not really a Star Wars fan or even really a war games fan and this video just randomly popped up on my recommended but your energy and enthusiasm just made me subscribe
@@Groobis Honestly, I don't remember leaving this comment, since it's been a year, but I looked back through the video and it looks like they are the Night Owls (Bo Katan's separate faction). If they were Death Watch, they would include Pre Vizla, but their leader is Bo Katan, who was not the leader of Death Watch.
Im hyped for this game. I love Legiom but having demoed Shatterpoint several times, I can confidently say they appeal to me in different ways and both have a place in my lineup
really glad to hear your opinion of the game itself has come around. I was bummed to hear you didn't enjoy the demo you played but now I'm much more interested to play!
This is such great inspiration man! I'm painting up Ahsoka and the Clan Kryze Mandalorians for a store, and just the four of them have taken me the same amount of time it took you to paint the whole box! Great work as always!
Taking your advice on the terrain and using tan spray can paint, then going to do the detailing with a brush. Will update with progress, but your video had been a great help getting the Shattering box done.
Oh man, seeing all the paint on top of your wet pallete lid was so validating. I have the same brand and its equally covered in paint layers from every time I couldnt be bothered to actually use it as intended
I never knew this game existed, nor did I know your channel existed. Nevertheless I hunkered down and watched the whole video. You did a great job and your personality made the time fly by. You just gained a subscriber. Keep up the great content!
15:07 the maul mandos chestpiece isn't entirely red, the red goes into steel on the lower part. they also have a black hand on the helmet. the female mando is pretty different as well. looks good though, just a heads up if you wanted to be more accurate
It might have been said before, but spray the model/scenery with a gloss or satin varnish to seal and protect the paint before using an oil wash. The varnish will also help the oils get into the recesses.
Is the acrylic ink the same color as normal acrylic paint? Like people would use it for their Canvas or is it Thinner? And is the color in the set? 😅 (I doubt it😂)
Regarding the oil paints, you probably should have applied a gloss varnish before hand as to seal off the acrylic paint then finished it with a matte varnish once you were happy with the results.
For oil wash, gloss coat first, then do oil wash (or matte coat for more grunge) and dillute the oil paint with spirits before you slosh it on. You have around 15 minutes after application for it to be dry enough to wipe off but not dry enough that it adheres
New to the channel and wanting to get back into painting again. Think this product is what is going to get me mask into it! Do you have videos for beginners, I'm about to start looking!
you should try some house painting brushes for dry brushing large stuff! if you know a painter, ask for a worn out one, it might make cooler/different textures
lovely to see another B1 fan! Most people I know hate them and find them annoying. But I love them, I think they're super charming - and really cool army bots
If you want to be able to remove oils easily, your surface has to be satin at a minimum (preferably glossy). This usually means varnishing before you apply oils (a lot of hobby acrylics are matte). If you put oils on a matte surface, pigment will settle into the microscopic texture of the underlying paint resulting in a stained appearance. Also, you can thin your oil paints with mineral spirits before you apply them to the model to save you some effort and product.
I pre ordered this box and I am so excited for it. I am honestly more excited about this game than 10th edition. But, in my defense I was born in 1977 and grew up with Star Wars and am a bit of a Star Wars simp.
Are you supergluing the minis to the wood blocks and then breaking them off when done? How are you not breaking the minis when you do that? Or is that double sided foam tape I see?
LOL i got a chuckle at you just completely covering your work in un-thinned oil paints. Thin them. Use mineral spirits and never apply it directly out of the tube. Also, don't wait till it's completely dry to start removing. Wait 30 mins or so.
I really enjoyed the video. you mentioned some of the colors you used, but others you just said something like "blue" or "white" ... are you able to give a list of the colors/paints you used? I'm new to the whole painting miniatures thing so seeing what colors are on the miniatures has been really helpful since very few of the pain brands use "normal" color names.
Hey jay!? I was trying to figure out, How you strip paint off of minis you buy off of eBay. I remember you mentioned a super sonic cleaner? And used La’s totally awesome. Was that it? Or what’s the process you do to get rid of old paint on a mini?
Depends on your perception of too big. The models are much larger and the terrain is scaled to it. However you could always lore it away as 40k battle happen on a planet of giants rather than scaled to the average human.
Im super excited to get my hands on this. Really, my only concern is the mission packs. I can see the one in the starter getting a bit dull over time. So future packs are going to need to bring something special to the table.
Thanks again to Atomic Mass Games for sending us this review copy of Star Wars: Shatterpoint! If you're interested in learning more follow this link: bit.ly/EonsofBattle_SWP
When I use oils for a wash I thin it out until it has the flow of an ink. Then instead of applying it onto the whole model, I carefully apply it only to the areas I want shaded. This targeted method of applying your oil washes means you have less to clean up and it also saves you oil paint.
Yeah same. I think his washes were more like just thinned oil paint not a wash. Mine is like water when I use it.
I second that. Needs to be thinned to flow into the crevices and lessen its binding power
Me too
Agree that Jay's first washes looked too thick. A few tips which work for me: 1. spraying the basecoat with an acrylic gloss varnish first, 2. putting the oil paints on a piece of cardboard to pull out some of the linseed oil before making the wash 3. Letting the wash dry for 2-4 hrs instead of overnight before the removal step.
This is the way
Entire video is Jay telling us good ideas and then showing us where slightly more obsessed but typical ideas get you... Working on minis late in the evening for a small (possibly negligible) benefit. My hobby self lives vicariously through you Jay!
As someone who volunteered to demo games at a convention, let me tell you, teaching the same game roughly every 30 minutes was awful, particularly if you hate one of the mechanics. My only saving grace was that the company was demoing multiple games, and I could change what I teach.
The "Save The President" game start announcements at UK Gencons were stupidly intrusive.
Jay, next time you try oil washes don't forget to gloss varnish the models, it protects the paint so it won't come off when you're removing the oils
It also reduces surface tension so thinned oils seek the crevices better.
Gloss varnish will make the models look silly and reflective you will notice all of jays models look great because of there matt finish
@@Johndoe-co3pw gloss is a much more durable varnish, and is much better for protecting lower layers.
Nothing is stopping you from doing a gloss varnish over a finished model then a matte varnish over that for the non-reflective finish
Shouldnt have to gloss varnish though, oils and thinners don't react with acrylic paint. He just rubbed them way too hard, because of the undiluted oil. He just scrubbed the paint off by force
@@silox250 ...
Yeah, that's exactly why you use gloss varnish, it protects the paint from rubbing off
Not a Star Wars guy, but love those droids ! You don’t see a lot of multiple characters as one mini very often and it makes the dinky droids look like they can actually do something :)
The droids were murder to build. 33 pieces for each stand. more frustrating than any Malifaux model. Lol.
Amazing job, and awesome video!
Love that your energy and enthusiasm DID NOT dip at all!
I bet it felt painful at times, but only the love came through on the camera.
Awesome job! I really like how you have the clock in the background so people can see how long you took painting each model. I personally feel thats a kinda important detail that a lot of people leave out. A good paint job can take a long time, even when using shortcuts like the airbrush and rattle cans.
Man, I'm struggling to pick up a brush after basically a year of not painting due to a bit of depression after my dog passed away under really rubbish circumstances, but seeing how quickly those mini's came together was inspirational, and I might take some ques in painting some legion stuff with this quick and streamlined method. Been a pleasure watching as always.
if i was your dog i would have been excited to see what new things you paint
I am amazed at your ability to paint quickly and get very nice looking, interesting, bright, impactful models. Very nice!
I’m not really a Star Wars fan or even really a war games fan and this video just randomly popped up on my recommended but your energy and enthusiasm just made me subscribe
My dude out here mentioning my fav game Root as I am not over here trying to see if I want to get into shatterpoint! You’re selling me on this!
Bro not gonna lie , I don't even paint shit and stuff but your enthousiasme is just feather to my ear , keep it up man
'You know these guys are the good mandalorians cause they're wearing blue'
The death watch: are we a joke to you?
they literally are the deathwatch?
@@Groobis Honestly, I don't remember leaving this comment, since it's been a year, but I looked back through the video and it looks like they are the Night Owls (Bo Katan's separate faction). If they were Death Watch, they would include Pre Vizla, but their leader is Bo Katan, who was not the leader of Death Watch.
Also, my joke was that Death Watch are Mandalorians who wear blue, but they are definitely not the good guys, so my joke would be valid regardless.
@@MiloW456 I suppose, your right, idk I was tired so any attempt at a joke just went over my head haha
14:35 Pitch meeting references are TIGHT!
WOW WOW WOW WOW
@@oninoni ...wow
Oh really
Im hyped for this game. I love Legiom but having demoed Shatterpoint several times, I can confidently say they appeal to me in different ways and both have a place in my lineup
Arcane Legion?
@@gbresaleking no, star wars legion
Wow wow wow. Wow!
Shatterpoint painting guides are tight!
Jay, more shatterpoint please 😊. There are so many cool expansions we'd love to see you paint!
My copy of Shatterpoint arrived today. This video is exactly what I need. No way I'll be as fast as you, but definitely provides a great guide.
really glad to hear your opinion of the game itself has come around. I was bummed to hear you didn't enjoy the demo you played but now I'm much more interested to play!
This is such great inspiration man! I'm painting up Ahsoka and the Clan Kryze Mandalorians for a store, and just the four of them have taken me the same amount of time it took you to paint the whole box! Great work as always!
Looks so sick love the clone wars would be so cool to play them out on the table
I'm so hyped for this game I've watched this video twice now because I ran out of other good shatterpoint youtube videos to watch
Great work Jay. The models look like they're lifted right out of a comic book and I love it.
Nice! Thank you for making this, I enjoyed how you mix various paints & painting techniques!
I can’t wait for this one. I love the design, the setting, the characters…I’m really looking forward to it
I love this video and will definitely form the basis for when I get my hands on the box and begin the mammoth task of getting everything painted.
Taking your advice on the terrain and using tan spray can paint, then going to do the detailing with a brush. Will update with progress, but your video had been a great help getting the Shattering box done.
Absolutely love your work! Really motivational to see how easy you make it look.
Just wish shatterpoint and Legion could be used together.
This is your greatest video (I've watched)! So many techniques shown and the pacing was awesome, well done mate !
Oh man, seeing all the paint on top of your wet pallete lid was so validating. I have the same brand and its equally covered in paint layers from every time I couldnt be bothered to actually use it as intended
This is literally one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen the paint you did was actually so impressing to me I loved this
This game is so much fun and the models are amazing. This game has so many expansions and there are a lot more coming out.
10:07?
Your rooster must have slept in
😂
Gar Saxon looks great. I saw the voice actor sadly passed away today. Dude was a bad ass
Great painting! It looks so smooth and lightly applied!
GREAT VIDEO! Dude you have alot of talent. Painting all that in 2 days I think I would be going blind after a while! lol. Congrats!!
The description of the characters was chefs kisses 😙👌
I had a great time watching this video! Good on ya mate!
The comedy in the first minute and a half is top notch. If this painting thing doesn't work out, you have options
what to you use the hold the modles on the squares while you piant them?
Killed it with that Anakin model, looks dope, magenta/brown inks done good 👍
I am learning so much watching you paint.
Cant wait to Get my copy! Finna follow Your painting guide for this! Great video😁✌🏻
Dillute oil paints with white spirit to avoid issues.
That pitch meeting reference was super easy, barely an inconvenience
Does the box of shatterpoint come with terrain? cus if so, that's cool
More things in the miniature modelling world need to be super-easy and barely an inconvenience.
"Little orphan Annie"
Shmi: Am I a joke to you?
She was to the Tuskens
Giggles in tusken scream
@@Wizley15 💀
Streak and grime is a product made exactly for making youre buildings and minis look dirty
I have fallen in love with your channel. You gave me the bravery to use oil washes for the first time
Super excited to get started painting and play this game
I never knew this game existed, nor did I know your channel existed. Nevertheless I hunkered down and watched the whole video. You did a great job and your personality made the time fly by. You just gained a subscriber. Keep up the great content!
15:07 the maul mandos chestpiece isn't entirely red, the red goes into steel on the lower part. they also have a black hand on the helmet. the female mando is pretty different as well. looks good though, just a heads up if you wanted to be more accurate
How did you do the bases ? Was rapidly covered but they look so good !
It might have been said before, but spray the model/scenery with a gloss or satin varnish to seal and protect the paint before using an oil wash. The varnish will also help the oils get into the recesses.
a year later and "it's slobberin time" is still just as insane as the day you posted this
Is the acrylic ink the same color as normal acrylic paint? Like people would use it for their Canvas or is it Thinner? And is the color in the set? 😅 (I doubt it😂)
Regarding the oil paints, you probably should have applied a gloss varnish before hand as to seal off the acrylic paint then finished it with a matte varnish once you were happy with the results.
For oil wash, gloss coat first, then do oil wash (or matte coat for more grunge) and dillute the oil paint with spirits before you slosh it on. You have around 15 minutes after application for it to be dry enough to wipe off but not dry enough that it adheres
New to the channel. Love the energy. And fantastic guide.
These look amazing, as always I love your energy. Sad though to hear about Ray Stevenson, Gar Saxon's voice actor passing.
ik love this. the droids and clones look sick. pls do more starwars stuff :-)
Darth Maul, the sixth who don’t quith. Thanks gents!! Fantastic as always!!!!
I really like your personality and your painting is amazing!
"Little Orphan Annie" I CANT- 😂😂😂
New to the channel and wanting to get back into painting again. Think this product is what is going to get me mask into it! Do you have videos for beginners, I'm about to start looking!
These minis look amazing...great job!
you should try some house painting brushes for dry brushing large stuff!
if you know a painter, ask for a worn out one, it might make cooler/different textures
lovely to see another B1 fan! Most people I know hate them and find them annoying.
But I love them, I think they're super charming - and really cool army bots
The flanderization that happened in ep 2-3, probably soured a lot of people.
You know you're a proper mini painter when your finger looks like an abstract painting, like at 14:55
Finger? My left hand and sometimes arm😂
If you want to be able to remove oils easily, your surface has to be satin at a minimum (preferably glossy). This usually means varnishing before you apply oils (a lot of hobby acrylics are matte). If you put oils on a matte surface, pigment will settle into the microscopic texture of the underlying paint resulting in a stained appearance.
Also, you can thin your oil paints with mineral spirits before you apply them to the model to save you some effort and product.
I wouldn't add an oil wash unless it had a high gloss coat first. It really helps take it off.
I pre ordered this box and I am so excited for it. I am honestly more excited about this game than 10th edition. But, in my defense I was born in 1977 and grew up with Star Wars and am a bit of a Star Wars simp.
Are you supergluing the minis to the wood blocks and then breaking them off when done? How are you not breaking the minis when you do that? Or is that double sided foam tape I see?
You said it was an oil wash but you just mixed oil paints and painted it on opaque without thinning it...
How do you stick the minis to the little wooden blocks whilst you paint them?
Oils really need to done as a ink thickness and 100% must varnish first
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about painting miniatures this video was very enjoyable
The extra time you spent on the terrain was entirely worth it
LOL i got a chuckle at you just completely covering your work in un-thinned oil paints. Thin them. Use mineral spirits and never apply it directly out of the tube. Also, don't wait till it's completely dry to start removing. Wait 30 mins or so.
I played a demo at my LGS last Saturday and had a great time!
I really enjoyed the video. you mentioned some of the colors you used, but others you just said something like "blue" or "white" ... are you able to give a list of the colors/paints you used? I'm new to the whole painting miniatures thing so seeing what colors are on the miniatures has been really helpful since very few of the pain brands use "normal" color names.
I wish you showed more paints you used. Like the bases, the blue on theclones etc
Love the videos. Keep up the great work!!!
Everyone in the comments are giving advice. Im just here in awe you can do it at all lol
Hey jay!? I was trying to figure out, How you strip paint off of minis you buy off of eBay. I remember you mentioned a super sonic cleaner? And used La’s totally awesome. Was that it? Or what’s the process you do to get rid of old paint on a mini?
How does the terrain work for warhammer minis? Is it too big?
Depends on your perception of too big. The models are much larger and the terrain is scaled to it. However you could always lore it away as 40k battle happen on a planet of giants rather than scaled to the average human.
On the clone troopers it says your use contrast white scar? But is it actually apothecary white you use?
your first oil paint terrain "wash" was like 400% thicker than I've ever seen it used xD
How are you holding those minis on your paint holder? Magnets?
Shatterpoint looks fun
Great video!! love the paint jobs!
Is there a way to get the terrain without a subscription? Can you just buy any terrain kit as a single?
Did you apply a gloss varnish to the terrain before applying the oil washes?
Since it's more "hero" base as opposed to army based like Legion, what character are you wanting to see in the future?
Which brush did u use for drybrush? thanks! I love it!
What is holding the miniatures to the square while you paint them?
6:46 Don't know if I'm the only one but I actually prefer the back of the building.
Im super excited to get my hands on this. Really, my only concern is the mission packs. I can see the one in the starter getting a bit dull over time. So future packs are going to need to bring something special to the table.