HOW TO ENGRAVE STAINLESS STEEL TUMBLERS | ENGRAVING YETI MUGS | LASER ENGRAVING MUGS | LASER MARKING
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2021
- When it comes to engraving stainless steel mugs on a CO2 laser, there's one major difference from anodized mugs. Stainless steel material needs a special marking spray to bond to stainless steel for the engraving. Without this spray, the engraving would not be possible on a CO2 laser. If you have any questions, feel free to comment them below.
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Your videos are awesome! Thanks for all the help.
I’m glad I could help.
Very cool man - I didn't even know this was a thing!
Glad I could make it a thing 😂
Good job describing this
I’m glad I could help.
Great video!
Thank you.
Nice MakerExpert!
Thank you!
Great Video Thanks
Thank you for watching.
Good job very clear explanation
Thank you!
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Hey bud. I followed this video and I freaking did it lol this video was so great ! Thank you for making it! I have the same set up as you do. I use Adobe and have an epilog. Please make videos on how to use the vector laser to cut out pieces of wood. Also can you make a video about the settings mostly needed on Adobe to use the epilog. Thank you in advance
The settings are more related to the material, not the software. I’ll see what I can do for future videos.
very nice
Thank you!
Hi Trevor I'm learning alot from your video. Just a question, can you use other spray colors and what other spray brand can you recommend?
Cermark is another brand. I haven’t really found any color ones yet beyond black and silver style ones. I need to find some color options.
What would you suggest for engraving on bullet casings/blanks? I have a idea I am wishing to make (probably 200-300) for some military and veterans groups.
I’m not sure exactly what material that is but I believe you’d have to use a spray like enduramark or cermark.
Just got a new rotary…hoping to pick up the setting to give me a starting point!
The settings I used are in the description.
Hey Trevor, thanks for the video. Quick Question about the center-center approach.
Does it matter where you place the graphic on the canvas (from top of tumbler or below .etc) if you are going to use the center-center setting?
I mean if you just made a canvas (or artboard) with the exact size of the graphic itself but not the tumbler. and run a center-center engrave on exactly where the red-dot pointer is. won't that have the same positioning effect?
Yup. When I do that in videos it tends to throw people off. You just need to make sure the tumbler rotates the proper amount. I haven’t tested it with a rotary so I’m not sure if you have to at least have the right art board height or not. It would be a good test.
You'll need to make sure the height of your artboard is the size of the circumference because that tells the rotary tool how fast to turn the motor.
@@iaincampbell3119 correct. I believe I mention that either in this video or my other mug video.
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Great Vid, Trevor! I am new to this and have been experimenting with the Enduramark Charcoal. I am getting light spots toward the top of the graphic. They are uniform, so it's not like it's oil or something on the surface. Any ideas?
I’d check that the cup is actually level to the laser head all the way across. I’d also make sure the spray is even everywhere. Beyond that it’s hard to say without experimenting.
Hi Trevor, thanks a lot for share that info. Recently I bought a Fusion edge 12. I am looking for a rotary. Epilog has two versions. What is the best and why.
If you’re doing mugs, get the roller style rotary. If you want to do precision work like engraving rings or something, the chuck rotary is usually preferred.
@@MakerExperiment thanks a lot, Trevor.
@@gabrielbogota you’re welcome.
Thank You for the video. Can the spray be used to etch clear acrylic?
Not this spray. There may be one out there somewhere but as long as you use clear cast acrylic, it’ll engrave a frosty white color.
You can try the mopa fiber laser marking machine.
You could.
Great job! Can you tell me if this process holds up to repeated dishwasher washes without coming off or fading?
To be honest, it’s been hit or miss. I’ve seen some hold up and some not.
@@MakerExperiment 🤔 Thanks!
Have you any experience with using this spray on polished stainless steel? I used brilliance on a polished stainless steel charm and the marking faded off quickly. I think I may not have cleaned it well or didn't apply enough spray prior to lasering.
I haven’t tried it with polished stainless to be honest.
@@MakerExperiment ok thanks
What power or type of laser is required to use this spray to good effect? Currently i only have an Xtool F1 10w blue 2w IR. IR has not been working very well but my engraving room is 65 degrees. Reading the temp may be too low for IR?
I have not tried this type of spray with IR. I’ve only seen it work with a CO2 laser. That doesn’t mean it may not work with others but I would contact the manufacturer and see what they say.
Hi,
I want to do this. How does teh laser engraving change from SIlver v Black. Also from colour powdered finish v stainless steel? I am using the ATOM
The spray I use is for uncoated metals like this stainless mug. It has a chemical reaction and adheres to the mug chemically creating a black layer.
For powder coated mugs it engraved through the powder coat layer. The powder coat is easier to work with but settings may have to change based on color of the powder coating.
I’m using a laser pecker 2, can you suggest a cheaper alternative to get the same results please ?
This is one of the cheaper alternatives for the spray. Cermark and enduramark are the two main ones.
Hello thanks for the video but what's the best engraving machine for beginners I want to try this hobby but I don't know wich machine to start with
What’s your budget?
Hı, thanks for your video.
Can we use also Enduramark on stone( Rock) ?
I don’t think it’ll work for that.
@@MakerExperiment Thank you
Hey nice vid. I was ordering a muffler and they were going to laser engrave it for me with my logo. I was wanting a more bronze look instead of very black like what is on your mug. Is this dependent on the source material I provide or the machine and the way they do it? Was wondering if I need to provide them a brown color logo vs my standard black one or does it matter?
It’s mostly dependent on the type of machine. To get coloration on metal they will most likely have to use a fiber laser. This is a bonding spray that reacts with CO2 lasers which is different.
@@MakerExperiment oh ok. I’m assuming they are going to use the cheapest method. I see a brownish/bronze color on most exhaust part engraving. Is this the natural engraving color?
@@Dnasty1 fiber lasers have some things they can adjust to get different colorations I believe. I’ve never personally done it though.
Hey brother I cant get my NEW 20W Xtool to mark ANY metal has worked great on wood and glass. Ive tried dry moly, cold galvanizing, omtech, brilliance and enduramark...nothing! with multiple speeds and powers, is it a settings issue?
I’m not familiar with diode lasers. I’m not sure what it would be that’s causing it. Typically you want slow speeds and high power when using marking sprays and similar items like it. It could just be a settings thing.
Do you have any recommendations for a 30 Watt fiber laser using Brilliance? (BLI101MBLIQ120)
100% honesty, I’ve never used a fiber laser. I don’t know that I’m the best person to ask for that question. I think Laser Everything may be able to help.
You think it would be able to engrave and etch onto chrome?
I’m honestly not sure without testing it.
Do you know if it will endure dishwasher or will it fade away?
I haven’t done long term testing. To be honest, I’ve seen both happen to other people. If the spray wasn’t done well then the marking won’t be as good. It’s supposed to withstand it but it depends on how well it was applied.
Will this work with a Ortur engraver?
If it had a way to do cylindrical items with enough vertical clearance it might. I’m not familiar with that machine.
Can I engrave stainless steel tumblers with sculpfun s30 20w diode laser?
You’d need the spray but I don’t know if it’ll work. It’s worth asking the company if it’ll work with a diode.
Do you have a tutorial engraving on 40 oz. Stanley cup full wrap ? I am able to engrave the top half without any issues but once it get the the lower part the engraving don't come out I am using a epilog Fusion Maker 12. Any recommendations?
I haven’t tried a Stanley to be honest with you. I’m not sure how to approach that without experimenting.
Thank you @@MakerExperiment
It is acetone resistant? Is it suitable for permanent marking of tools?
I’ll be honest, I don’t know if it’s acetone resistant. As far as permanent marking, it claims to be as long as it’s applied correctly. I haven’t had anything wear off yet, but I haven’t tried it on something I handle every single day.
Love your video where do you buy the spray head
I put all the links in the description but if you’re still looking for something let me know.
What machine do you use ? Thanks
I’m using an Epilog Fusion Edge 12.
To engrave tool's what lazer do you recommend.
It depends on your budget and what you want to make.
Hello i would like to know about settings for engraving on a vacuum bottle (aluminium) . I use tronhoo lc400 laser machine. Pls help . Thank you.
I don’t know what they are for that machine. The settings I used are in my video description.
i'm a first timer to use laser engraving. i purchased Daja D3. what app are you using coz the one's with the Daja is so basic that I cant transfer a logo
To send from Illustrator to my laser I use the Epilog software that was built for the Epilog machinery. I’m not sure what software works with diode lasers to be honest.
Can I use the same machine for glass and ceramic mugs
I’ve never used it for ceramic, but it should work for it. It will also engrave glass.
Will this spray work with a 60W diode laser?
Read up on it to be sure. I would think it will but it’ll take some trial and error.
Hi, thank you for your tutorial…. Why 10% to keep your logo round, how did you determine that percentage?
On average 10-15% is the range I’ve seen work. It kind of depends on the logo but 10% seems to be a good option for most logos.
Thank you, I will try 10 to start! Much appreciated!
@@loriezweifel3364 you’re welcome.
What's the wash count? and can you do other coolor?
I’ve hand washed mine mostly and it’s held up fine over like 50 times. I think they have another colors but it’s silver or something similar.
Can you cut it out with a circuit with that software?
Do you mean cut out a vinyl logo? A cricut can cut vinyl. It can’t engrave like I did on this one.
When I turn my machine on, it wants to "home" the head and there are two switches that tell my machine the head is "home" and it then finishes reseting. If I plug in the rotary before turning on my machine, the unit just spins the rotary endlessly, waiting for the head to hit a switch that it never will. How do you compensate for this?
What kind of machine? I haven’t seen that issue.
Does that spray work on glass as well. I want to have that dark look on glass
Not this one I don’t believe. They do make a glass one but I’m not sure how dark it gets.
@@MakerExperiment I’m still trying to figure out which laser I’m going to get but that’s the reason why I’m asking questions now so when I do get my laser I can start projects. Have you tried borax on either glass or metal just wondering
@@rickparma I’ve engraved glass directly on the laser just fine. I have not tried Borax.
Can I use the marking spray and the entire process with a diode laser? If not, what process can I use to achieve the same result?
To be honest, I’d try and see if it works. I’ve never done it but if you can dial in the settings, it should be possible.
@Maker Experiment thanks! It is an expensive try. But I think it is well worth it. Should I try the brand you used? It is a high-quality one, right?
Thanks for your videos! You do a great job and seem like a cool guy.
@@craigperrin9096 the one I used I like. There are others but this is one of the less expensive ones. You can reach out to Enduramark and ask them the question directly before you buy it. They may be able to tell you so you don’t waste any money.
@Maker Experiment I got the marking spray, and it worked perfectly! It is awesome. I followed the settings as directed. Thanks, man!
@@craigperrin9096 I’m glad it worked out!
How do they hold up over time?
Mine have held up well. I recommend hand washing. I wouldn’t use a dishwasher.
can you try with dry moly lube on chrome plated material
I will have to look into it.
@@MakerExperiment iambwait
What does it do to the stainless if you did not use the marking spray? I take it the stainless really isn't engraved, the laser just cures the marking spray onto the mug.
Nothing happens with a CO2 laser if you done have the spray. The spray reacts with the laser to create a cured layer on top of the stainless.
Does it work on ceramic mugs,cups ect...?
I don’t believe the spray I used in this video does.
@@MakerExperiment sorry i shouldve been more clear...are you able to work on mugs "with handle" on the rotary attachment
@@thatonegamer2709 you can work on mugs with a handle.
Hello Sir my name is Antonio my wife and I run a home base t-shirt and personalized stainless steel cups but I would like to get into laser engraving, so is there any engraving machines out there no so costly for a beginner as myself.
You can look into the Thunder Laser brand. There are others as well, but I know a couple of people with them that have had a good experience.
Very good video but unfortunately what you show does NOT work with my Atomstack x/Pro or I have some wrong Lightburn settings ;( Could you please upload the exact parameters or a profile so that I could laser in exactly the same way on stainless steel?
I don’t use lightburn and the settings I use on my machine wine match that of an Atomstack. You need to run really high power and low speed for this method to work.
@@MakerExperiment THANK YOU SO MUCH for your quick answer and thumbs up for it XD and does it HAVE to be normal white matt spray or black matt?
@@Muscle_81 this is a specialized spray called Enduramark. You have to use a spray like that one or Cermark.
@@MakerExperiment Ok, thank you very much, I ordered it just one more question XD Do you have the Airassist on or off?
@@Muscle_81 I usually leave mine turned on.
Trevor, Approximately how many tumblers would that can of Enduramark complete?
I have no idea to be honest. I’d have to keep track and see.
Is this permanent?? I wanted to use it for something magnetic n i can't have the "engraving" wear off overtime or it would become useless...i just got a glowforge pro a couple days ago n I'm a complete newbie i have zero idea about any of this it was just something I've window shopped for several years n this deal couldn't b passed up lol so now I'm trying to learn so i can use it!!😅 Lol
I just watched til the end n u say permanent storry😅 but is it like FOREVER permanent or it'll rub off semi quickly if it's used often? Lol didn't know if ud have any info tia!! And thanks for ur vids!!
@@beezyv-dx5bb if not applied correctly it’ll rub off. There is some trial and error to figuring out settings. I will say if it’s machine washed it has a higher risk for rubbing off more quickly.
@MakerExperiment I was thinking about things I could make with a magnetic surface... I've been watching so many videos my brain is exploding at this point lol thank u so much for ur quick response!! Much appreciated!!😎 I feel like I have a lot of experimenting to do lol
So o don’t have any of these tools, but really want my yeti engraved. Can I just send it to you? Side note it’s the gallon tumbler.
It is something I can do. Feel free to email me.
@@MakerExperiment send me your email. I will definitely love your feedback
@@rceETR it’s amakerexperiment@gmail.com
Why do you say it is "Permanent" when it is not! It you had used a Fiber Laser, it would be smooth and PERMANENT, plus you would not have to go thru all the prep (spray, clean, etc.) to make the engraving adhere, the fiber laser does all that for you. There is a layer (the spray) between the actual engrave and the stainless steel tumbler.
It is supposed to be permanent if done correctly. In order to use a fiber laser I’d have to own one. I don’t know about you but I don’t have access to one and many others don’t either. The spray is a good alternative for those that only have a CO2 laser.
@@MakerExperiment as someone who owns a fiber & CO2 laser dual source laser....I know from experience that a fiber engraver is superior to using a spray to "engrave" on stainless steel. The fiber laser extracts the carbon from the steel to make the true black & smooth engrave that is permanent! Anyone who is using the spray to make a black "engrave" claiming it is permanent is lying, because it is not permanent, there is a layer of that spray between the stainless steel and the engraving. That's why there is a build up on the engraved area.
@@jhnmrkb I agree that a fiber laser is superior in this usage. Not everyone has one. Because it is a coating at some point it will most likely deteriorate, so you’re correct that “permanent” may not be the right word. Most people will have that engraving for the life of the object if they hand wash it. People who machine wash it may not. At the end of the day a fiber laser is a better option, but not always affordable for everyone.
Because it’s not going anywhere. I’ve put sandpaper to it and not even a smudge
This isn't engraving anything
Technically it’s laser marking. Most people don’t search for that wording.