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Laser engraving (etching) stainless steel with budget 15W laser engraver (Ortur Laser Master)
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2021
- In my review of Ortur Laser Master (15W) I tried to engrave some metal, but without success. Then two comments suggested to me to use mustard on the surface. First, I thought it is a joke, but then I found an interesting article, where somebody successfully used mustard and vinegar for stainless steel engraving (or better word is etching). I am also trying again the marker provided with the laser, since this is recommended in the manual.
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I came back just to hear you say " Moostard" again ... love it.
I'm British born, Europe raised. Living in the South USA, you don't wanna hear my accent lol.
I'm sure everyone is curious.
I just got my laser and found this video. Thank you for your testing it was a big help!!!
Todays lasers can engrave directly too (10, 20, 30W)
THANK YOU!!! Thank you for getting to the point!
I use Dykem marking ink. After lasering, I wash the Dykem off with nail polish remover or acetone. Comes out perfect every time.
can you link to what ink you used?
What wattage laser are you using with that ink?
Does it matter if you use Dykem's blue or red ink?
Try Coleman's Mustard. It's smoother than the brand you're using. Great job!
You can engrave it with spray paint (as mask) and (strong) Acid or saltwater and electricity (5V 1-5A)....
Igor I think you didn't notice some safety issues that can hurt you in the end. Your goggles are clearly not sufficient to block all the blue light. You should see the glow of the material you are cutting but no blue light at all. You need OD6 or more make sure your goggles blocks 450nm. Even diffuse reflections can damage your eyes, and in this case, it's far more dangerous because you are etching a reflective surface. When I etch metal, i start the job and step way back away from the machine so the light has enough distance to diverge before hitting my face.
P.S the mustard trick is very cool. I'll try it soon
Only dangerous if you look INTO the laser.... those goggles are perfectly fine
Great Video Igor But I wouldn't mind if you show the failures so I can learn from them 2
I know this is older but omg this is a game changer
Very interesting experiment. Thank you.
NICE, a fine grain mustard might work even better!
I wonder if a black piece of tissue would help the vinegar.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
Good video
Quickest way is still to spray it black or use a marker and etch with Ferric oxide or use the vinegar and electrically etch it, goes deeper and is more permanent
Do you mean etch the paint/marker with a laser to form resist, and then etch in Ferric Oxide? I'm curious about the quality/resolution such method can produce. I need to etch lettering in brass (letters about 3 mm tall), but the results need to look fairly well. I'm looking for the simplest way to do that.
@@antipode_ghost exactly like that, it is after all how pcbs are made, so resolution is very high
@@Tarex_ Any pointers/advice for this technique of laser forming of chemical resist? Like what paint to use for best results, what power of laser is needed?
@@antipode_ghost Black paint, one coat, two if needed, laser on max power so it pulverizes the paint, if you are vector engraving one pass should be enough, you will see the metal shine through, raster engraving two passes, clean off the residue and you can either put the oxide where you engraved or dip the whole plate if everything else is covered up, my largest project was a DIN A1 Copper plate with a picture and text, was etched fine and colorfilled and is hanging on a wall somewhere
Thank you for your time and knowledge
What about using some 3D printed tool to spread the mustard evenly. Kind of like a squeegee but with a gap to leave a bit of mustard?
Thanks for another fun and interesting video.
BTW, I thought you nailed the music in this video. I thought it sounded just right.
Probably I will try different mustard. This one had too many spice granules.
Great vid. I am getting ready to have a stainless steel muffler laser engraved and I wanted a more bronze colored engraving do I need to provide a bronze source or will the source color not matter?
Material matters and thermal conductivity. That's why we cannot engrave alu or brass. With 10-20W laser I don't need anything on surface any more.
Thanks 🙏
Helló. Nekem egy Neje Master 20 W gépem van. Ami eddig bevált, az alumínium spray, /hőálló ezüst../ A mustárt kipróbálom. Pláne mert a videóban a mustár és az ecet is magyar. Köszi tesó..
Szívesen, bár nem épp ezt a mustárt javasolnám. Olyan kellene ami sokkal finomabb szemcséjű. Nekem épp csak ilyen volt itthon.
We need a durability test on the etched/engraved parts :)
Maybe :-) But I want to try aluminium and brass first..
If there's a painted surface on aluminum, will this laser do lettering through enamel paint ? I want the lettering to be silver over black paint. Thanks- Super great video !
I didn't test it on alu so far. But probably it can burn out the paint.
Totem S 40W / NEJE Master 2S Max / Atomstack A5 Pro / Ortur Laser Master 2 pro
I found the four. would like to know which one of the favorites is and which one is best for small knives, normal kitchen knives, silver key rings, zippo, silver engraved bracelet for children. thank you in advance for the help and information I will get. nice day
From the list I like the best Ortur LM2Pro, more safety features.
Try with black shoe cream.
What if you let Mustard dry first. Thinner layer?
I didn't try, but I think it is better if it's wet. I would rather experiment with different mustards. This one had some spice in it.
looks like it will work well.😀
Did you try etching brass? If you had a piece of brass to try, I'd be really interested in the results.
If I will find some info about how to do it, I will (brass and aluminium). So far without success.
Actually the black permanent marker works good and it's easier to apply. But I'm couriouse it somebody knows how to etch metal plating like chrome for example. The marker and mustard doesn't work here.
With weaker lasers marker didn't worked to me. Nowadays, there are new, stronger lasers and they can engrave steel directly or only using the marker.
I wonder if the vinegar would work if you used a colored paper napkin, like brown, black or red.
Not sure. I will experiment a little bit more with vinegar. I will create a UA-cam post if I will have any success.
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What if you paint and then let the laser go to work. Then you got a "mask" around the text or logo. Could you now use the vinaeger with some low current to elechtrolyte-etch. Sorry bout my poor english... 🙄
What is the best wood to engrave? I read online that alder, maple is good? What do you recommend and have you engraved a bamboo cutting board before?
Plywood is the most common, not sure is it the best. I never tried to engrave a bamboo yet.
Redwood and cedar has been working perfectly I'm going to try manzanita hard wood next
That's weird, my Laser Master 2 didn't come with a marker.
Probably they realized, that it doesnt help ;-)
Hello just wondering have you ever tried to laser engrave on silicone apple watch band if so what are your settings
Silicone apple? No, I didn't tried so far. I tried silicone pad, but it don't burn (for soldering)
Hi.which machine is good for knife and lighter? Cheap machine please.
Could you do 10 passes with a thicker layer of mustard?
Very good 🙂
And with mayoneze ? (With Majonez Kielecki)
Didn't try mayones, but fine graded moustard is better.
Can you try on a round tool? Rachet?
No, it would be out of the focus
How small can this engrave? I need to mark my diy watch cases
Precision is far below 0.1mm, size of the dot is approx 0.4mm.
Can I use any laser engraving with mustard to engrave stainless steel?
Not sure, this one was 4.5W, and I needed 2 passes. 5.5W should be better and thiner mustard layer.
Buy a can of Brilliance spray off of Amazon. It works with my Sculpfun S9 Pro.
Recently I tested Aufero Laser 2, it's SF laser module can engrave steel directly ua-cam.com/video/y_b4poZoovo/v-deo.html
@@MyTechFun i have done that as well, but with the spray it is amazingly black and you do not need to push the laser to full power. I believe I ran mine at 300mm and 60%. I only have pictures of my company logo, but I will do another print and somehow post a picture of it.
Have you tried saltwater on that paper towel ??
Not yet
I’d try mine at 50mm/m at 50%. 4 passes
Hello. Am in need of this machine, how can I contact you? Am in Tanzania
Why not try engineers blue?
You tried it? Any success?
Is the steel actually etched or are the designs burned mustard sitting on top of the steel?
he showed at the end what it looked like after running through a dishwasher. still looked damn good!
@@thegrafxguy1 I couldn’t tell from that. maybe it’s obvious if you’ve used a laser to engrave?
@@AndrewHelgeCox I guess I'm assuming that his dishwasher was good enough to remove it if it were just burned on but I very well could be wrong about that.
I doubt it was etched, I'm pretty sure that this was simply something baked on by the laser. If it was, indeed, etched, I would like to understand the physics/chemistry of the process.
Now, after approx 1 week and everyday use/washing, it still looks like at the end of the video.
I have a universal engraver 15w using t2 software and have no idea what im doing but i got it to engrave on 20mm and 25mm stainless charms. Help
Da uma pesquisada aqui:
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Why not just use paint? Doesnt that work better?
I tried with sharp 5.5W laser + permanent marker, it works too.
@@MyTechFun I've been meaning to try a powder coating.
Can be for pcb engraving ?
Directly not. But you can coat it and remove the coating with laser, then etching uncovered parts..
@@MyTechFun Thank you.
Hello, have you tested engraving on metal like dog tags or keychains? Will this engrave those items?
I tested only stainless steel (so far)
@@MyTechFun How did it do?
you're putting it on way too thick and you have to put it on evenly I use a small foam brush. and a very very light coat, when you put it on too thick it takes off the engraving when you clean it
Is 15w enough for regular steel ? (not stainless steel)
I tried regular steel, but without mustard, no success. Sine that I didn't tried it.
Try it with Nescafe after engraving. Just put the metal in a cup of coffee for a few hours. (Can I hear your Hungarian accent?)
Igen, köszi
Ezt lehetne magyarul is?
Lehet: rákensz finom szemcséjű mustárt és lézergravírozod (lassan, mind ha fát vágnál). Egyébként, nemrég teszteltem egy olyan gravírozót, ami tiszta rozsdamentes acélt direkt tud gravírozni: ua-cam.com/video/y_b4poZoovo/v-deo.html
Black spray paint
That is not how you say mustard
Sorry for being boring and I'm also not native English speaker, but mustard pronounsed as "masterd" both in GB and USA variants.
Anyway it is lots of fun that kitchen grade stuff can be used for DIY.
Hm, you are right, I should check it before the video. Lesson learned. Thx
I'm a native speaker myself and the way Igor pronounced it was closer to what I consider correct than using the "masterd" pronunciation.
This video pronounces it correctly to my Western USA ear.
ua-cam.com/video/Xpu-FlweztY/v-deo.html
@@ddegn Well, that might be.
I won't bother you with all that stuff I was forced to study while learning English as a foreign language (IPA transcription).
Just I can clearly hear the difference, and for you it sounds correct.
No problems at all IMHO.
As a native English speaker I just want to thank Igor for addressing us in English rather than his native language and reassure him that he is perfectly intelligible.
Müüustard
another bad video because music competes with content, why it's not good music, just turn it down.