thanks for the video. ran into so many issues as you explained as I purchased all the parts before you posted this video.
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i just look for mk4 syncro to buy for same reason u describe at the end of video and searching how to lifft it up, this vid was exactly what i needed!😎
Big job !! I have a golf MK 4 , and your video motive to my for a radical transformation to my car! Thanks for sharing ! Grettings from Córdoba, Argentina !!
You can actually get 4wd golf's. The v6 4motion and r32 are both 4wd and come with a better naturally aspirated engine that you can slap a big old turbo on and get stupid bhp and torque. Just think about then adding the lift kit and springs with the big tyres your going to have an insane iff road golf
Was originally from a jeep grand cherokee, but modified to fit the golf. Details on how I made it can be found here. ua-cam.com/video/qq5fbp3OhiM/v-deo.html
Ive actually never looked into that, but lets do some math. The original tire size was 195/65R15, and the current tire size is now 215/75R15. The difference in diameter between the two is 2.72 inches. That means the larger tire size should have given me about 1.36 inches of lift.
1.9 tdi are the best engines ever made PERIOD! Very good fuel milage and very easy to modify. Engines have 90-150 hp and with one chip tuning and new turbo and little mods here and there, you have 200hp economy vehicle that lasts long! Also, not to mention that they also have 6speed manuals and 4x4 !!
My TDi is bone stock, but still has enough torque to move me around pretty easily with these bigger tires. It also averages about 30-35mpg. Unfortunately the United States never got a taste of the 4motion golfs (with the exception of the R32 models)
@@KlaptOutOffroad Gosh, that is actually sad to hear... Well, i have heard about several stories where people do install 4x4 motion on front wheel drive car. Seat Leon cupras made in period 2006-2013, do actually come only with front wheel drive. But people take either the 4x4 of audi a3 quattro or take the front wheel drive of audi a2 and somehow make their Seat Leons 4x4. It is possible, but it is probably not worth the effort and the expenses....
Loving your work! Question, when you reassembled the front strut with the wrangler spring, did you add “Not this thing” or is it no longer needed with the 2inch extensions?
I didn't re-use the iron couplers (not this thing). They were just left over from my 2 inch lift i had installed previously and were thrown In the trash.
You can get 4motion (haldex gen 1 and also you can have a tune-box to have 50/50 on Front/Rear power) in Europe for like 3000$-5000$ 2.8 VR6 4motion - i don't know about the shippment costs but if people from poland are importing cars from USA/Japan/ESA then it might be worth it. I bought mine vr6 4motion for 2K 3 years ago - still beating it every single day - 350.000 km, this thing is amazing - in snow it handles perfectly.
Love the video and i very helpful. I plan on doing this to my golf here soon. Since you now have a good amount of drive time with this lift, how have you liked it? Have you had any issues?
I've put about 4-5k miles on it so far and haven't had any issues at all. Drives great on road, cruises well on the highway, and performs well off road. No abnormal wear, noises. Tires do rub ever so slightly while turning sharp, but only against the plastic fender liner so no harm done.
That's what I was originally aiming for. Was even going to paint it Montana green and get some custom decals made for the door sills. Maybe someday, but for now it remains silver.
Im a late bloomer with cars (started driving at 32) and now Im already my first project car which is a VW. leaning more towards 4x4 this vid has taught me LOADS. thanks!
If I'm not mistaken, i swear someone already makes rear shock extenders for the back if needed. My front strut mounts need replaced so im really considering just getting the rest of the stuff and going to town. Besides hitting that pinch weld, did you have to cut anything else for the tires to fit? Also do you have a video on your brush guard up front?
ya know, i had never thought about it until now, but theres a chance those front strut extenders might fit onto the rear shocks. It still wouldn't make the shock long enough as it needs to be 4 inches longer, not 2. However it would mean making a shorter, stronger bottom shock mount. As far as tire clearance, hammering in that pinch weld is all I did. They still rub against the inner fender liner, but that won't cause any harm. Also, here's the video to my brush guard ua-cam.com/video/qq5fbp3OhiM/v-deo.html
I have a 2000 vw jetta and i want to do this, so i was wondering if you had any camber issues on it? Thats really the only thing i worry about on my car. Because i dont want to be buying new tires every 15k miles
There's some camber on the front wheels, but it's hardly noticeable and while I don't put a lot of miles on this thing, i havent noticed any abnormal side wear in the approx 5000 miles I've put on it since the lift. Same goes with cv axles. I replaced the passenger one a few years before the lift and it's still going strong. I did have to replace the driver one not too long ago, but it was the original with over 250k miles on it so it was over due. Long story short, I can't say weather prolonged driving such as using it as a daily is going to cause premature wear of tires and components, but just using it for certain trips and only putting a few thousand miles a year on it seems to be working just fine for me.
@johnsprague3521 I'm sure a similar setup can be applied, but I wouldn't know if these springs would work. Funny thing is I have a 2015 which should be more similar with your '13 than my MK4, but I've never once bothered to look to see how the suspension is set up in it (it's just my boring daily)
Hi really good video, I was wondering if this would work on a 2011 VW Golf TDI? Ive been struggling to find a resource of lifting MK V, and the ones I could find are only about 2 inches.
I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. I'd imagine the suspension is fairly similar to the MKIV so in theory a lift like this could be possible, but have never looked into it as I don't own one.
So I decided to go ahead and do this on my 2002 vw jetta tdi. Turns out with the strut extenders you do not need the precompress the springs for the struts. Which was nice. I also found some 2" shock extenders for the back which I bought 2 sets of and just doubled them up. Now I just need to get some tires and hit the backroads.
I like your idea of doubling up the shock extenders in the rear. How did it turn out? Are they the same part number as the front? Can you provide part numbers/ websites you got them from? I appreciate your comment a lot, and thank you for coming back to update
Nice video! scary spring compressor, but looks good at the end! I'm currently running 2-3in lift with a mkIV strut mount conversion. it's been great so far and I want more, lol!
I notice some more turn-in and i'm sure there's a greater tendency to oversteer, but I got used to it and run daily without it connected. You can try it by unbolting the control arm end of the sway bar link and zip-tying it up and out of the way.
@@figit090 how long have you had the lift and how has it held up. I just did mine and am a little worried about the cv axles being at to much of an angle for highway speeds.
Is the 4" adapter necessary in the back? I bought a set of shock absorber for the bottom that's only 2" I'm guessing I'll need 2" extenders for the top to make it 4" in total to make it look level with your set up?
Adding screw on extenders to the rear shocks is something I hadn't thought about at the time of building this. I would think it would work just fine and certainly a lot easier than fabricating the ones I made.
@KlaptOutOffroad the adapters are pretty expensive as long as your way is solid go for it. But my question is do I need to lift the rear shock absorber 4" inches like what you did
When I was running a 2 inch lift before installing this lift, I was running a stock rear shock without any extensions, and it worked great for the few years that I drove it like that. Therefore, for this 4 inch lift, you can probably get away with just a 2 inch extension.
@@KlaptOutOffroad I'm looking for pretty much as much left as I can without stuff breaking or wearing out so I'm probably going to do the 4 in do you know what the thread size is on the stock shock absorber?
I probably should check the alignment, but after a few thousand miles since the lift I haven't noticed any abnormal tire wear or handling characteristics. Never extended the brake lines either and have fully flexed out the suspension on multiple occasions without issue
I'm thinking about doing this to my 2001 Golf Gls. Did you have and problems with the CV axles popping apart after doing some off roading because of the front suspension articulating??
I did just recently have to replace my driver CV axle. However it was the original axle with 260k miles on it and the main reason why it went bad is because the boot ripped and the cv joint got full of water. My passenger axle, which was replaced a year before I lifted it, is still going strong.
@@chriscleave2173 rock crawling isn't its strong suit. It has the ground clearance, it's just geared to high to slowly tackle rocks. Coupled with the fact that it's a 5spd manual, your just asking to burn up the clutch doing that.
Very clear instruction. Anyway what are the the alternate spring to those Jeep JK & JL? I am from Cambodia and want to lift my 21 yrs old Mks4 as well. another option if you could share the diameter and height of each spring then I can look for the alternate spring from scrapyard shop. Thanks ahead.
In theory, it should work length wise. However because the entire rear axle assembly has swung down 4" more than normal, you might have some clearance issues with the shock rubbing against the coil spring. I haven't tested that yet, but it's something to keep in mind if you try it.
Awesome, I just want my Jetta taller so I’m not struggling to get out of the damn car haha. Was this auto trans or manual? I’m wondering what the rpm difference is at 60mph?
Mine has the manual 5 speed. When I daily drove this thing stock for several years, I hated how low the gearing was because the rpm would be pushing into the upper 2000 range at highway speeds. Now with the bigger tires, it cruises around low to mid 2000s
The brush guard is for a 99-04 Grand Cherokee, I think made my a company called Westin. Got it used from facebook marketplace for 40 or 60 bucks. Roofrack is a generic 39x64 basket rack you can find on amazon. They're sold under multiple names, but pretty sure they're all the same.
Ya know, that idea hadn't crossed my mind until someone brought it up a couple weeks ago. So long as the thread size and pitch are the same it should work, but you would have to double them up to get that extra 4 inches
@@KlaptOutOffroad I have extra 40mm height with all stock rear coils and shocks, but under coils placed rubber spacers about 30mm. Now I plan to change leaking rear shocks to BILSTEIN - B4 OE Replacement 19-140032 and maybe coils with cherokee ones (Lesjofors 4142108). Also I have screw-on extenders for rear shocks with 29mm lenght. What do you think about my choice of hardware? Maybe cheaper ones exists, like chinese or something? I have chinese thicker front coils and they are ok for 5000km and about for a half of year.
@@stockfootagez if your planning on going with cherokee springs, you'll definitely want to loose those rubber spacers as you won't need them. One thing I didn't think about until now is there might be issues with the shock rubbing against the spring is you use screw on extenders and mount to the original shock mounts. With the way the whole rear axle assembly swings down with more lift, it pulls the shock closer to the spring. I had that issue when I mounted the F150 shock before building that shock extender. Granted it's a much thicker shock, it still possible it'll still rub with the thinner stock shock. The shock extender I built kind of protrudes out and away from the spring, so it gives it a little bit of clearence between the shock and spring. Also, I've gotta ask...what spring only lasts 5km/half a year? I couldn't imagine having to change out my springs twice a year!
@@KlaptOutOffroad Thanks for detailed answer, and the springs are lasting much longer - I have only mentioned that mine lasts at least for half a year without any problems and I'm sure that they will last at least a decade.
In my opinion, it rides better than stock. Especially with the bigger tires inflated to around 24psi, which is my usual around-town psi, it rides really smooth and soaks up a lot of the bumps both on and off road.
I know, right? This thing rides so much better than my newer daily which is a 15' Golf. That trail at the end goes to a certain hot spring that I can't remember the name of off the top of my head. Out in western NV near the east walker river.
@KlaptOutOffroad Having a 03 Jetta wagon w the extra weight for rear cargo. Would spring 4142109 work better in the rear? It’s for XJ w 5.2L 4wd, in place of that 4142108 for 4.0L rwd?
The XJ never came with a V8. Your looking at a GRAND cherokee, which did come with a 5.2 V8. However, grand cherokee (ZJ) springs are about 2 inches taller than a regular XJ cherokee, so I wouldn't recommend it.
@@KlaptOutOffroad Is the 215/75R15 (27.7”x8.5”) MAX. You see a 28.6” tall tire with a width of 8.9” fitting..?225/60R18. Trying to run snow tires on my current 18s. AT’s on stock 15s.
@dteche1985 on mine, my tires nearly rub the rear inner fenderwell and that's without the plastic liner installed. There's also only a ¼" gap between the tire and the bottom spring perch of the strut. I think if you hammer in the inner fenderwell and either install wheels spacers or cut a notch out of the spring perch, you should be able to make them fit. If you haven't already done so, look into the "lifted water-cooled vws" page on Facebook, I've seen plenty of MK4s running larger tires on there so maybe you can track down some better info on the procedure.
It's been a great skid plate. Living in the mountains, it took a lot of light hits when the car was at stock height. Now that it's lifted and is taken on offroad excursions, it's taken some heavy hits but still the plate has held up very well.
I've heard that it's either very difficult or impossible to lift the 4motion vehicles. I've never really looked into it myself as I don't have any 4 motion vehicles, but I'm sure with enough ingenuity, it could be possible.
i've had the suspension maxed out to the point that the car was teetering on 2 wheels, and have never had an issue with the drive shafts being over extended.
4wd would be amazing in this thing. Or even just a really low gear for crawling. Without those two though, this thing will still go places you'd never think a 2wd car would go.
Your rear springs and axle have different geometry, you can lift them but you'll have to research what others have done and it may cost a bit more. It may also limit the amount you can lift it without significant fabrication or modifications.
I think it's the 2" shock extension. I've been reading online that the stock struts max out the same time the axle hits the subframe but this guy ground out the subframe where it hits the axle during installation
I did everything you did same parts and everything got my axel issues fixed and i fixed my camber issues by buying doorman adjustable ball joints works perfect
@@KlaptOutOffroad I mean, mostly(according to my observations) suspension rods are placed inside the springs. But In your video, you mounted them separetely.
@salihplayer480p6 when you say suspension rod, are you refering to the strut or shock absorber? If so, the front of the vehicle still retains the strut inside of the coil spring. The rear on the other hand, came stock with the spring and shock absorber separated. Everything that I did for the most part replicates how the car originally came from the factory, just with taller springs and shocks/struts
@@KlaptOutOffroad I was referring to shock absorbers. This misunderstanding is happened due to my lack of memory. I forgot the word "absorber" and I made up something. Besides that, I understand. Thanks.
I just installed this exact lift and I’ve noticed a shaking in the front right around 10-15 mph. Also slight vibration when I’m barely on the throttle around 45. Any thoughts?
@thomasbilheimer7705 could check for play in your cv drive shaft. At stock height it may not have been noticeable but with the lift the cv joint in the axle is at more of an angle and might be making it apparent that it's worn out. Atleast that's the first place I would look.
I'll work on getting a parts list in the description. In the mean time, I did list the part numbers for the springs at the beginning of the video and the strut extensions can be purchased here shop.eurowise.com/products/ewor2iss?_pos=1&_psq=mk4&_ss=e&_v=1.0
@@KlaptOutOffroad that’s what i meant. i will be using two of the euro 2 inch extension and add it to one shock to make it 4 inches extended which i pray it will work.. going to be pricey but it’s the only way without the magical welding machine
@Jesus-hx5vg so long as those extenders screw onto the rear shocks then I suppose that'll work. Just be sure to use plenty of locktite and let me know if it actually works
I couldn't say with 100% certainty, but I think it should work. I think the suspension setup between the golf/jetta and the beetle were very similar, if not identical.
For rear shocks I used Amazon shock extension brackets. I’ll find a link. I never finished the front. I put the Jeep springs up front but no strut extensions so I have more preload on the spring but no lift. I’ll finish it someday, as it is it drives ok.
If I'm not mistaken, the R32 is AWD, right? If so, I've heard that the AWD system doesn't work right with the lift, but I could be wrong. I'd do some research into that.
thanks for the video. ran into so many issues as you explained as I purchased all the parts before you posted this video.
i just look for mk4 syncro to buy for same reason u describe at the end of video and searching how to lifft it up, this vid was exactly what i needed!😎
Big job !! I have a golf MK 4 , and your video motive to my for a radical transformation to my car! Thanks for sharing ! Grettings from Córdoba, Argentina !!
Good to hear! Good luck on your project!
Can we see more clips of it driving and off road.
I plan on it...eventually.
@@KlaptOutOffroad I’m fixing to do this lift on my 2000 golf tdi soon! I appreciate all of the info.
This is amazing! I'm doing it on my mk4 💪
You can actually get 4wd golf's. The v6 4motion and r32 are both 4wd and come with a better naturally aspirated engine that you can slap a big old turbo on and get stupid bhp and torque. Just think about then adding the lift kit and springs with the big tyres your going to have an insane iff road golf
Great video, thanks for sharing. Can I ask where you got the bull bar from? Is it home made, or from another vehicle? Thanks. Mac
Was originally from a jeep grand cherokee, but modified to fit the golf. Details on how I made it can be found here. ua-cam.com/video/qq5fbp3OhiM/v-deo.html
Thanks.
"Unless your a Toyota guy"
Literally me c:
Please could you share the “not this thing “ 2inches lift spacer? Thanks
ua-cam.com/video/_oJDn6LJqew/v-deo.html
Yes boss i got same like dat and i wanna lift it up due to the bad roads
This is happening asap all I need are springs
What springs would be compatible I have a 2017 mk7 GTI that I wanna do this to
super epic! did you happen to notice how much lift the bigger tyres gave additionally?
Ive actually never looked into that, but lets do some math. The original tire size was 195/65R15, and the current tire size is now 215/75R15. The difference in diameter between the two is 2.72 inches. That means the larger tire size should have given me about 1.36 inches of lift.
Sway bar quick disconnects are a good idea. Takes 2 mins once you hit the trail
Great video man. Very helpful! I'm surprised you haven't had an issue with the rear springs shooting out, with the angle they sit at. But that's good!
Thanks. And those rear springs are solid. I've had this thing flexed out teetering on 2 wheels plenty of times with no issues.
1.9 tdi are the best engines ever made PERIOD! Very good fuel milage and very easy to modify. Engines have 90-150 hp and with one chip tuning and new turbo and little mods here and there, you have 200hp economy vehicle that lasts long! Also, not to mention that they also have 6speed manuals and 4x4 !!
My TDi is bone stock, but still has enough torque to move me around pretty easily with these bigger tires. It also averages about 30-35mpg. Unfortunately the United States never got a taste of the 4motion golfs (with the exception of the R32 models)
@@KlaptOutOffroad Gosh, that is actually sad to hear... Well, i have heard about several stories where people do install 4x4 motion on front wheel drive car. Seat Leon cupras made in period 2006-2013, do actually come only with front wheel drive. But people take either the 4x4 of audi a3 quattro or take the front wheel drive of audi a2 and somehow make their Seat Leons 4x4. It is possible, but it is probably not worth the effort and the expenses....
Loving your work!
Question, when you reassembled the front strut with the wrangler spring, did you add “Not this thing” or is it no longer needed with the 2inch extensions?
I didn't re-use the iron couplers (not this thing). They were just left over from my 2 inch lift i had installed previously and were thrown In the trash.
You can get 4motion (haldex gen 1 and also you can have a tune-box to have 50/50 on Front/Rear power) in Europe for like 3000$-5000$ 2.8 VR6 4motion - i don't know about the shippment costs but if people from poland are importing cars from USA/Japan/ESA then it might be worth it.
I bought mine vr6 4motion for 2K 3 years ago - still beating it every single day - 350.000 km, this thing is amazing - in snow it handles perfectly.
Excellent videos. Wonder if this would work on the mark 6 TSI I'm looking at.
Tiguan springs in the front with overload springs in the rear combined with Bilstien struts will give you 2-2.5" lift for the mk6
Pretty cool
Love the video and i very helpful. I plan on doing this to my golf here soon. Since you now have a good amount of drive time with this lift, how have you liked it? Have you had any issues?
I've put about 4-5k miles on it so far and haven't had any issues at all. Drives great on road, cruises well on the highway, and performs well off road. No abnormal wear, noises. Tires do rub ever so slightly while turning sharp, but only against the plastic fender liner so no harm done.
Awesome! I appreciate the quick response man!
Modern day MK4 version of the Golf Country minus the 4wd
That's what I was originally aiming for. Was even going to paint it Montana green and get some custom decals made for the door sills. Maybe someday, but for now it remains silver.
Great content. Thanks for all the info. Looking to do the same here soon.
Thanks! Best of luck to ya!
Thats fucking cool.
Im a late bloomer with cars (started driving at 32) and now Im already my first project car which is a VW. leaning more towards 4x4 this vid has taught me LOADS. thanks!
Would this build apply to a 2014 VW Jetta Wagon? Thanks
It might be similar, but couldn't tell you for sure. This build only applies to the MK4 golf's and jettas.
Great video wish we had more wagons in South Africa. Did you have any problems with CV axle wearing out faster than normal and shortener brakelines?
If I'm not mistaken, i swear someone already makes rear shock extenders for the back if needed. My front strut mounts need replaced so im really considering just getting the rest of the stuff and going to town. Besides hitting that pinch weld, did you have to cut anything else for the tires to fit? Also do you have a video on your brush guard up front?
ya know, i had never thought about it until now, but theres a chance those front strut extenders might fit onto the rear shocks. It still wouldn't make the shock long enough as it needs to be 4 inches longer, not 2. However it would mean making a shorter, stronger bottom shock mount. As far as tire clearance, hammering in that pinch weld is all I did. They still rub against the inner fender liner, but that won't cause any harm. Also, here's the video to my brush guard
ua-cam.com/video/qq5fbp3OhiM/v-deo.html
@@KlaptOutOffroad what about if you put two extenders on one shock?
metalnerd has them and may sell them separately.
I have a 2000 vw jetta and i want to do this, so i was wondering if you had any camber issues on it? Thats really the only thing i worry about on my car. Because i dont want to be buying new tires every 15k miles
And I was wondering if you also had some cv axle issues on it
There's some camber on the front wheels, but it's hardly noticeable and while I don't put a lot of miles on this thing, i havent noticed any abnormal side wear in the approx 5000 miles I've put on it since the lift. Same goes with cv axles. I replaced the passenger one a few years before the lift and it's still going strong. I did have to replace the driver one not too long ago, but it was the original with over 250k miles on it so it was over due. Long story short, I can't say weather prolonged driving such as using it as a daily is going to cause premature wear of tires and components, but just using it for certain trips and only putting a few thousand miles a year on it seems to be working just fine for me.
@@KlaptOutOffroadI’m wondering if your method would work on my 2013
@johnsprague3521 I'm sure a similar setup can be applied, but I wouldn't know if these springs would work. Funny thing is I have a 2015 which should be more similar with your '13 than my MK4, but I've never once bothered to look to see how the suspension is set up in it (it's just my boring daily)
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Hi really good video, I was wondering if this would work on a 2011 VW Golf TDI? Ive been struggling to find a resource of lifting MK V, and the ones I could find are only about 2 inches.
I'm afraid I don't know the answer to that. I'd imagine the suspension is fairly similar to the MKIV so in theory a lift like this could be possible, but have never looked into it as I don't own one.
Tiguan front springs and overload rear springs combined with bilstiens and 1" strut/spring spacers will give you 3-4" lift.
Where did you get the bumper guard? And know if that’s legal in Germany by any chance?
With the strut extender would you still need to do the sketchy ass ratchet strap spring compression? Or could you grab enough to get it set up?
So I decided to go ahead and do this on my 2002 vw jetta tdi. Turns out with the strut extenders you do not need the precompress the springs for the struts. Which was nice. I also found some 2" shock extenders for the back which I bought 2 sets of and just doubled them up. Now I just need to get some tires and hit the backroads.
I like your idea of doubling up the shock extenders in the rear. How did it turn out? Are they the same part number as the front? Can you provide part numbers/ websites you got them from? I appreciate your comment a lot, and thank you for coming back to update
Nice video! scary spring compressor, but looks good at the end!
I'm currently running 2-3in lift with a mkIV strut mount conversion. it's been great so far and I want more, lol!
👍👍👍 nice job.
Where can we buy those schocks extension ?
Sorry for the delayed response, but here's where you can buy them.
shop.eurowise.com/products/ewor2iss?_pos=1&_psq=mk4&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Have you noticed and problems after the sway bar removal? Excellent video, I just ordered the parts!
I notice some more turn-in and i'm sure there's a greater tendency to oversteer, but I got used to it and run daily without it connected. You can try it by unbolting the control arm end of the sway bar link and zip-tying it up and out of the way.
@@figit090 how long have you had the lift and how has it held up. I just did mine and am a little worried about the cv axles being at to much of an angle for highway speeds.
I have 1999 Jeep Wrangler TJ front springs, do you think this could work up front along with the 2” strut extenders?
Is the 4" adapter necessary in the back? I bought a set of shock absorber for the bottom that's only 2" I'm guessing I'll need 2" extenders for the top to make it 4" in total to make it look level with your set up?
Adding screw on extenders to the rear shocks is something I hadn't thought about at the time of building this. I would think it would work just fine and certainly a lot easier than fabricating the ones I made.
@KlaptOutOffroad the adapters are pretty expensive as long as your way is solid go for it. But my question is do I need to lift the rear shock absorber 4" inches like what you did
When I was running a 2 inch lift before installing this lift, I was running a stock rear shock without any extensions, and it worked great for the few years that I drove it like that. Therefore, for this 4 inch lift, you can probably get away with just a 2 inch extension.
@@KlaptOutOffroad I'm looking for pretty much as much left as I can without stuff breaking or wearing out so I'm probably going to do the 4 in do you know what the thread size is on the stock shock absorber?
@@roostwire Sorry, don't have that answer on the thread size
What size tires did you put on?
Sorry for the late reply. They're 215/75R15 General Grabbers
Did you do an alignment after? Wondering if the lift effected the alignment. Also did the brake hoses need extended?
I probably should check the alignment, but after a few thousand miles since the lift I haven't noticed any abnormal tire wear or handling characteristics. Never extended the brake lines either and have fully flexed out the suspension on multiple occasions without issue
Only thing it affected on mine was the camber and to fix that I bought doorman adjustable ball joints worked out great
@@justinseifert1995 Part number on these? Looks like Mevotech makes a adjustable top hat too for camber?
Tell me the size of the front and rear shock absorber strut extensions in centimeters. Thank you in advance!
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I'm thinking about doing this to my 2001 Golf Gls. Did you have and problems with the CV axles popping apart after doing some off roading because of the front suspension articulating??
I did just recently have to replace my driver CV axle. However it was the original axle with 260k miles on it and the main reason why it went bad is because the boot ripped and the cv joint got full of water. My passenger axle, which was replaced a year before I lifted it, is still going strong.
I gotta drive this thing.
Drove it 800 miles round trip to king of hammers last week and did amazing
@@KlaptOutOffroad I love it! How’d it do in the rocks? Have you thought about doing this with a Haldex?
@@chriscleave2173 rock crawling isn't its strong suit. It has the ground clearance, it's just geared to high to slowly tackle rocks. Coupled with the fact that it's a 5spd manual, your just asking to burn up the clutch doing that.
Do you know of a shock absorber you could replace it with that is already longer instead of using extenders?
I've never looked into it, but maybe something for a small light older 4x4 like a Suzuki samari or something like that would work.
I’m thinking the same thing! I would really like to know if I can buy a shop that will just simply work. Is there any new information?
Was that your stock tire size? I believe my wheel is a 17”
Very clear instruction. Anyway what are the the alternate spring to those Jeep JK & JL?
I am from Cambodia and want to lift my 21 yrs old Mks4 as well.
another option if you could share the diameter and height of each spring then I can look for the alternate spring from scrapyard shop.
Thanks ahead.
@KlaptOutOffroad?
Howabout an adjustable gas shock for the rear?
I'm sure that's a possibility. I didn't look into that at the time as I was trying to build this on the cheap
What shocks did you end up running? I can’t find anyone that says anything other than the f150
The rear shocks I used are the stock ones for the golf. It's whatever oreillys had in stock at the time
This is awesome, I totally want to do this with mine
So if i did this mod and in the rear if i want to avoid welding I could use 4 inch extender's would that work just fine with vw shock's 🤔
In theory, it should work length wise. However because the entire rear axle assembly has swung down 4" more than normal, you might have some clearance issues with the shock rubbing against the coil spring. I haven't tested that yet, but it's something to keep in mind if you try it.
if you did this where did you purchase your extenders thanks
Awesome, I just want my Jetta taller so I’m not struggling to get out of the damn car haha. Was this auto trans or manual? I’m wondering what the rpm difference is at 60mph?
Mine has the manual 5 speed. When I daily drove this thing stock for several years, I hated how low the gearing was because the rpm would be pushing into the upper 2000 range at highway speeds. Now with the bigger tires, it cruises around low to mid 2000s
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Where did you get the roof rack and brush guard?!?!?! I have the same lift on my jetta and want to do the same
The brush guard is for a 99-04 Grand Cherokee, I think made my a company called Westin. Got it used from facebook marketplace for 40 or 60 bucks. Roofrack is a generic 39x64 basket rack you can find on amazon. They're sold under multiple names, but pretty sure they're all the same.
why just not to extend rear shocks with screw-on extender like it was with front shocks?
Ya know, that idea hadn't crossed my mind until someone brought it up a couple weeks ago. So long as the thread size and pitch are the same it should work, but you would have to double them up to get that extra 4 inches
@@KlaptOutOffroad I have extra 40mm height with all stock rear coils and shocks, but under coils placed rubber spacers about 30mm. Now I plan to change leaking rear shocks to BILSTEIN - B4 OE Replacement 19-140032 and maybe coils with cherokee ones (Lesjofors 4142108). Also I have screw-on extenders for rear shocks with 29mm lenght. What do you think about my choice of hardware? Maybe cheaper ones exists, like chinese or something? I have chinese thicker front coils and they are ok for 5000km and about for a half of year.
@@stockfootagez if your planning on going with cherokee springs, you'll definitely want to loose those rubber spacers as you won't need them. One thing I didn't think about until now is there might be issues with the shock rubbing against the spring is you use screw on extenders and mount to the original shock mounts. With the way the whole rear axle assembly swings down with more lift, it pulls the shock closer to the spring. I had that issue when I mounted the F150 shock before building that shock extender. Granted it's a much thicker shock, it still possible it'll still rub with the thinner stock shock. The shock extender I built kind of protrudes out and away from the spring, so it gives it a little bit of clearence between the shock and spring. Also, I've gotta ask...what spring only lasts 5km/half a year? I couldn't imagine having to change out my springs twice a year!
@@KlaptOutOffroad Thanks for detailed answer, and the springs are lasting much longer - I have only mentioned that mine lasts at least for half a year without any problems and I'm sure that they will last at least a decade.
How does it ride? Looking at doing this on my mk4 but I'm worried about it riding like a brick on forrest roads.
In my opinion, it rides better than stock. Especially with the bigger tires inflated to around 24psi, which is my usual around-town psi, it rides really smooth and soaks up a lot of the bumps both on and off road.
@@KlaptOutOffroad how does this affect you fuel economy?
@AlexTyson_ I live in a mountainous area so I used to get around 38-42mpg before. I now get around 30-35mpg
Excelent work! Thank you!
Surprised it rides so well with a JK being much heavier. Where was that trail at the end of the video? Eastern sierras some place?
I know, right? This thing rides so much better than my newer daily which is a 15' Golf. That trail at the end goes to a certain hot spring that I can't remember the name of off the top of my head. Out in western NV near the east walker river.
@@KlaptOutOffroad Ahh, ok. I figured it was probably in that area someplace.
@KlaptOutOffroad Having a 03 Jetta wagon w the extra weight for rear cargo. Would spring 4142109 work better in the rear? It’s for XJ w 5.2L 4wd, in place of that 4142108 for 4.0L rwd?
The XJ never came with a V8. Your looking at a GRAND cherokee, which did come with a 5.2 V8. However, grand cherokee (ZJ) springs are about 2 inches taller than a regular XJ cherokee, so I wouldn't recommend it.
@@KlaptOutOffroad Is the 215/75R15 (27.7”x8.5”) MAX. You see a 28.6” tall tire with a width of 8.9” fitting..?225/60R18. Trying to run snow tires on my current 18s. AT’s on stock 15s.
@dteche1985 on mine, my tires nearly rub the rear inner fenderwell and that's without the plastic liner installed. There's also only a ¼" gap between the tire and the bottom spring perch of the strut. I think if you hammer in the inner fenderwell and either install wheels spacers or cut a notch out of the spring perch, you should be able to make them fit. If you haven't already done so, look into the "lifted water-cooled vws" page on Facebook, I've seen plenty of MK4s running larger tires on there so maybe you can track down some better info on the procedure.
Very smart not using the truck shocks, I have watched a bunch of videos of them all using them and wondered how bad they would ride. Great Video!!
Thanks! Whoever came up with the f150 shock idea really got that idea stuck in everyone's head. Shock extenders are the way to go
@@KlaptOutOffroad someone has to mass produce them
How do you like that alloy skid plate on the mk4? Where’d you get it?
www.evolutionimport.com/atlas-skid-plate-kit-for-beetle-golf-jetta-iv-p/a3002.htm
It's been a great skid plate. Living in the mountains, it took a lot of light hits when the car was at stock height. Now that it's lifted and is taken on offroad excursions, it's taken some heavy hits but still the plate has held up very well.
What do you expect him to say It's alloy and it's a skid plate. Lol
Did someone lift 4motion? I'm just thinking about doing this on my 4motion G4.. but still thinking which rear spring and shocks use
Is the 4motion rear axle compatible with a normal version? Thinking about building a buggy golf
I've heard that it's either very difficult or impossible to lift the 4motion vehicles. I've never really looked into it myself as I don't have any 4 motion vehicles, but I'm sure with enough ingenuity, it could be possible.
Is there no risk of the drive shaft pulling out with the extra travel?
i've had the suspension maxed out to the point that the car was teetering on 2 wheels, and have never had an issue with the drive shafts being over extended.
Super cool, seems kind of a waste without 4wd though
4wd would be amazing in this thing. Or even just a really low gear for crawling. Without those two though, this thing will still go places you'd never think a 2wd car would go.
tire dimensions?
Does it also work on a bora 4motion ?
I'm told it doesn't work with 4motion, but you may want to do research to verify that
Your rear springs and axle have different geometry, you can lift them but you'll have to research what others have done and it may cost a bit more. It may also limit the amount you can lift it without significant fabrication or modifications.
What exact spring number part and rear shock
Shock is a Monroe from O'Reilly part#32403 and the spring is from RockAuto, a Lesjofors part#4142108
Hi, Klapt Out Offroad where are you located?
Question, are the strut extensions reuseable?
So long as they're in good shape I would think they're reusable.
I did all of this to my golf and it keeps eating cv axels how did you stop that from happening?
Not sure. I still have the stock axles in mine from before the lift and they're still in good shape.
I think it's the 2" shock extension. I've been reading online that the stock struts max out the same time the axle hits the subframe but this guy ground out the subframe where it hits the axle during installation
I did everything you did same parts and everything got my axel issues fixed and i fixed my camber issues by buying doorman adjustable ball joints works perfect
The question in my mind is, why you placed springs and rods in different places? That does not seem secure to me.
I'm not sure I follow. Can you explain?
@@KlaptOutOffroad I mean, mostly(according to my observations) suspension rods are placed inside the springs. But In your video, you mounted them separetely.
@salihplayer480p6 when you say suspension rod, are you refering to the strut or shock absorber? If so, the front of the vehicle still retains the strut inside of the coil spring. The rear on the other hand, came stock with the spring and shock absorber separated. Everything that I did for the most part replicates how the car originally came from the factory, just with taller springs and shocks/struts
@@KlaptOutOffroad I was referring to shock absorbers. This misunderstanding is happened due to my lack of memory. I forgot the word "absorber" and I made up something. Besides that, I understand. Thanks.
Hey do you still have that F150 ?
Nope, sold it about 12 years ago
Any problems with the front axles after this lift? Do axles need extending or anything?
Haven't had any issues at all with the axles.
I just installed this exact lift and I’ve noticed a shaking in the front right around 10-15 mph. Also slight vibration when I’m barely on the throttle around 45. Any thoughts?
@thomasbilheimer7705 could check for play in your cv drive shaft. At stock height it may not have been noticeable but with the lift the cv joint in the axle is at more of an angle and might be making it apparent that it's worn out. Atleast that's the first place I would look.
@dji effe Do the Mk4 Golfs and Jettas use the exact same suspension?
Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Is there a parts list available to hand ?
I'll work on getting a parts list in the description. In the mean time, I did list the part numbers for the springs at the beginning of the video and the strut extensions can be purchased here
shop.eurowise.com/products/ewor2iss?_pos=1&_psq=mk4&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Full parts list now available in the description
Can you use the original vw rear struts with the exceptional of using a 4 inch extender?
this is for the mk4 jetta wagon by the way
If you mean using the original rear SHOCKS, then yes, you can use them with the 4" extenders
@@KlaptOutOffroad that’s what i meant. i will be using two of the euro 2 inch extension and add it to one shock to make it 4 inches extended which i pray it will work.. going to be pricey but it’s the only way without the magical welding machine
@Jesus-hx5vg so long as those extenders screw onto the rear shocks then I suppose that'll work. Just be sure to use plenty of locktite and let me know if it actually works
@@KlaptOutOffroad will do thanks
do you think this will work on a 98 new beetle tdi? thanks
I couldn't say with 100% certainty, but I think it should work. I think the suspension setup between the golf/jetta and the beetle were very similar, if not identical.
Yes it works. I did a very similar process with my y2k new beetle tdi
@@TroopThrowback did you use the front strut extenders? Also what did you use for the rear shocks? Thank you!
For rear shocks I used Amazon shock extension brackets. I’ll find a link. I never finished the front. I put the Jeep springs up front but no strut extensions so I have more preload on the spring but no lift. I’ll finish it someday, as it is it drives ok.
Do you think this will work on the R32?
If I'm not mistaken, the R32 is AWD, right? If so, I've heard that the AWD system doesn't work right with the lift, but I could be wrong. I'd do some research into that.
@@KlaptOutOffroad r32 have individual suspension, so the mods in the rear should be bit different(tricky).
You can lift the AWD system, it's been done; but it was custom and not a simple bolt-on affair. ua-cam.com/video/yzqBmGBjRTg/v-deo.html
I’m hoping to find the coils used. Are they the front or back off the two jeeps?
He showed both springs with part numbers on rock auto. 0:50
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Why would someone do that?
Uhh, because it's rad!